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Men should not be cooking, its WRONG!

March 27 2011

The world has gone crazy , our relationships are falling apart and our divorce rates are through the roof ! WHY ? I see an amazing amount of women wanting full "equality" in their relationships , they want their man to put out the rubbbish, open the car doors , cook the dinner (three hat quality of course) and pop the washing on the line ??? ARE YOU SERIOUS ? (and all at the same time , Yes Mr I read it) IS this where we are all going wrong ? Is equality akin to relationship death ! Lets head back 50 years lower divorce rates, happy families and defined roles !! YES DEFINED ROLES ! Men knew what they did no confussion , Women knew where they sat (clearly the passangers seat) Women did inside stuff and men outside stuff! Hence why it was a Victor mower not a Victoria !!Really simple stuff made relationships last longer and people dare I say it HAPPIER ! ............. Are men confused , do you open the door for women and let them travel through first ? Do we open car doors or are we in some way being misogynistic ?? Bloody hell its your Hyundia !!! Huuuuh ??? Why must we cook and why is it better if we can ?? ( you haven't tried my cooking !) Are we confusing not only men, but women as well ? I ask is this where it all went pear shaped ? Have we lost the plot ? Brae ......... Waiting patiently by the door

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  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    hell yea. men should be doing at least half. not sitting on the couch demanding beer n sex. we share everything, and have to say, that we have the best relationship.........have done the old fashioned one.... ends in tears

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Who Wears the Pants then? No one, they were used to wipe a spill inside the oven and had to be discarded. . Who's The Bread Earner? No one, the bread was used in a pudding with raisins and milk. . Who's The Boss then? No one, management was re-trenched when GST was added to basic food items. . Defined Rolls were served up warmed and buttered with a soup entree long ago. . Misogynistic is now a supplement for MSG due to adverse health effects and known as MiSoGynistic enhancer 212. . Who does All the work in bed then?.....(leaving that one alone!). . "What Door?" did u mean the oven door or the kitchen door?

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Why are men so confused about all this stuff?? Of course you have to cook - I can't and surely you would not want us to starve. Yes open the door and offer to pay - just to win us over. When it comes to co-habitation and housework - well you both have to share the work load. I mean why not? I bet your better half goes out to work doesn't she or do you have a kept woman? So therefore you need to cook & clean too. Simple rule Brae - just do everything Sarah tells you to do I am sure you will be A Ok. xx Meeks

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Why are men so confused about all this stuff? It is pretty simply really. Of course you have to be able to cook - I can't so you wouldn't want us to starve would you?? And yes open the door and offer to pay - just to win us over. As for co-habitation and the housework - well yes you have to cook, & clean & iron, etc. Only fair isn't it. I mean I bet your better half goes out to work 5 days a week the same as you! Or are you saying you have kept woman over there? Simple rule Brae - just do everything that Sarah tells you to do and you will be A OK. xx Meeka

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    and this subbie will turn nasty . sure I love a beautifully cooked meal by someone special but I am also fiercly protective of my kitchen...it is a rare thing for me to allow anyone else to cook me dinner especially in my own home. . Make you a deal Brae?? Because I burn so easily I will gladly swap the indoor stuff with you if you will mow my lawns, weed the gardens, clean the gutters and take the wheelie bins out for me.... . As for opening the door for me - please could you???? I cant quite grasp the handle while I am holding your slab of beer Kisses Focus

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I have no problems with equality - as long as you both share the load. Too many times it turns out to be me doing all the work and she sits on her ass calling out for another wine. As a single father with 2 kids that I have 2 weeks every month I have no choice but to cook, clean and everthing else. When I was in a relationship she often worked shifts which meant I had to cook dinner etc. most of the time But then when she wasn't working she'd sit on her ass and expect me to do it all still - including mow the lawn, put the bins out etc cause that's men's work.Fuck that!!! I work full time as well running my own business - You want equality, great - I'm all for it and have always supported it - so get off you ass and help and be equal. Easy fix though - she's gone and I'm free and in the clear.mmmmm, maybe you hit a nerve - LOL

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    i want to come back as a lion, cos they do fuck all, but lay around and wait for the food to show up, then they take the best share of said food, and they can shag the lioness' like 30 times a day. and we call them dumb animals!

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Some women can't cook for shit, yet, a man's gotta eat. Hugs Gaz

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Oh Brae you poor delusional man. Naturally I will forgive your faux pas in posting this topic...after all you are a man and know not what you do. l 50 years ago a woman could not own property. If she worked at all, her money was not even hers. She had nothing and could not even obtain a loan at a bank without her husband. Maybe this is why the divorce rate was so low. The poor suckers could not leave. They were virtual slaves in thier own homes. Well technically not even thier homes as they could own nothing. They had to put up with rape within thier marriage as it was his conjugal rights to have sex when and how he liked. The wife had no right to object or say no. It was frowned upon a little if the man beat her but then she probably deserved it. l If a man does not like cooking then maybe he does not deserve to eat? I am more than happy to do my share (more than my share if truth be told) of work, gardening, lawn mowing, car detailing, kid raising. My boys have to learn to cook, iron and sew on buttons...after all they may not find someone dumb enough to do it for them. Just the same as I learned to change car tyres and spark plugs, use a drill, saw and hammer. If the times are soooo confusing for poor little men and they are having trouble understanding thier place and role in society now.........I for one am more than happy for them to take a back seat, say nothing and be reserved for stud purposes only. l Women died for the rights I have today and I will not be giving one of them up!!!

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    u had to learn to use a hammer? was it a trial and error thing, or did someone have to teach you?

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee'50 years ago a woman could not own property. If she worked at all, her money was not even hers.Actually I don't think that statement is anything close to being accurate. It's pure drama and fantasy! Woe is me.The common law is the common law.HugsStalky

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    mmmm me thinks I am going to need popcorn for this one . Kisses Focus

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    lolz Focus..... it's all drama and over excitement. As I recall, the Married Woman's Act was put into place around 1880's... so call me kooky... but that's a long way off.... a lot longer than 50 years ago.... lmfao... And someone in their furver to make a dramatic point.... forgot to say the magic words... "Married women".... as opposed to all women.... you see, single women can own property, always could.Thanks for the Her-story lesson. lmfao.HUgsStalky

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    When I stop applauding you and what you've written I'll settle down and reply to your post. But in the short term, well done, couldn't agree more. Viking

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Yay Brae! Nice weather for a Sunday roast, eh? . TO, you're such good value! *insert the little love struck emoticon thingy* . Stalky, you already know I think you're right, so I'll not say it again here. . Focus, please pass the popcorn, I do hope some hottie turns up with the beer soon. .

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'theone1983'u had to learn to use a hammer? was it a trial and error thing, or did someone have to teach you? I'm no damsel in distress (even though my tool kit is pink, my ex wasn't allowed near tools, they're MINE) but i honestly can't hit a nail straight on the head twice in a row. Stupid redundant things. Gimme the drill anyday. and Brae, you know that old saying "Whatever you give a woman, she will make it greater.."? If you give her a house, she'll give you a home. If you give her groceries, she'll give you a meal. If you give her a smile, she'll give you her heart. She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her. So, if you give her any crap, be ready to receive a ton of shit. . Tread carefully :p xx theotherSarah

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I don't mind doing all the inside stuff, but by my own choice and doing I now have to do the outside stuff too. I still have to remind myself every week to put the damn bins out. I can practically watch the lawn grow before my eyes, so if I still had my man and I've just mowed for almost 3hrs ( yes thats how long mine takes, big bastard of a thing) and I've been out swearing and telling myself "its good for your ass , it's good for your ass" well then...........he can dang well get me a beer!!!! and he can cook me some effin bacon and eggs while he's at it!!!!!

  • Tart_Du_Jour

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    15 years ago

    Call me old fashioned but these are things I really don't think men should be doing in this day and age- menstruating- giving birth- breastfeeding- going through menopause

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    I dont really think it has much to do with confusion of "roles". Put a man with a 1950's hat on and hand him a 2010 hat then yeh i think he'd be pretty bumfucked. But times have changed and both sides have changed and adjusted with it. I reckon it has ALOT to do with the fact that the acceptence of relationships going to hell in a handbasket has increased. 50 years ago getting a divorce was very much a social no-no, not to say that it didnt happen but it really wasnt "the done thing" especially with religious groups mediating that kind of thing. With the new faced paced world. values have changed, needs and wants have changed. Think is a rather bigger picture topic as opposed to daddy putting out the washing. I think generally speaking the men are still, statistically the breadwinners and women are for at least a period of time stay at home mums. They just choose to contribute more financilly to the family unit or just for the sake of having a career etc. I don't think can be put down to a culture shock because people have been growing up with the culture, been exposed to it and know whats going on and know the roles they play in a family. People are just more inclined to speak up about relationship dissatisfaction and there isnt anything stopping them from nullifying it if they arent happy. Isnt about marriage for life, car, kids and house with white picket fence. that shit is gone. Is all about AM I HAPPY. and if you are not then u are going to vote with your feet

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Hun I think you've been watching too Many Of those 50s0s shows repeats ie Father Knows Best , Ozzie and Harriet so On ...I'm sorry to burst your bubble but those 50s Marriages from the Good Old Days weren't.any Happier. Women were Isolated in the suburbs as the housing boom too place more money around. They were depressed lived on booze r valium at times didn't have that Family unit GrandParents living nearby . Husbands worked long hours ,too tired when he got home didn't relate to the kids.She was bored senseless, her only purpose seemed to be having the Dinner on the Table at about 5pm. which she took a couple of hours to Prepare.It was eaten in 15mins. She had no Adult stimulation not even when her Husband came home, because Families were either eating infront of the TV or siting quietly at the Dinner table silently eating.she spent glorious days washing ironing bathing the kids shopping sometimes getting together with the other bored Houswives. I now which I prefer . My Man pitching in on an equal basis so we both can achieve and Participate in what makes us fulfilled happy Couples and Parents. I felt so Pamperd the other night bcause a Nice Guy Invited me over for Dinner.He took great pride in being the Host, cooking a terrific meal .Spagett Bog; with garlic bread glass Of wine.Mind you the wine and great conversation as he was cooking and the fact he went out bought table setting and some intimacy after certainly made for an excellent night . He topped it off by making me lunch then took me home opened the car door for me on all ocassions.he!he!Bring on equalty I say tho there really isn't such a thing . But the abiity to make choices what you both want in a Relationship how to make this work for you both in all areas is.Lu :)

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'theone1983'u had to learn to use a hammer? was it a trial and error thing, or did someone have to teach you? I learnt as a child...the same as the boys with my own fair share of hit thumbs, building billy carts and cubby houses. I bet your daddy showed you how many years ago. I grew up without a father and taught myself. Trial and error. These days I renovate houses. All 5'2 of me....all by myself I build internal walls, tile bathrooms, lay carpet. The ONLY thing I dont do is electrics. So sorry if my sense of humour may be missing in this topic and I will appologise before hand but our rights as the down trodden sex is important to me. I may go for the balls occassionallly.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'stalky' Quoting 'fionabee' 50 years ago a woman could not own property. If she worked at all, her money was not even hers.Actually I don't think that statement is anything close to being accurate. It's pure drama and fantasy! Woe is me.The common law is the common law.HugsStalky Then check out the Matrimonial Properties Act. It may have come into power a little more than 50 years ago but not much and MAN reacts very slowly to change. And I notice there is no dispute against the "rape in marriage" bit which is in fact a law that came into effect very recently.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    so ......you make me cum.......ill let you cum.....seems fair and equal.we'll hire a gardener for the lawn and there is always take away or restaurants.... and heck lets get a cleaner for the house worknow we can have quality time together .......no problems at all Braebesides house work and gardening are not good for my nails.....and you want me to look pretty dont you ?i struck an agreement once.....bring me a coffee in bed and Id pay with head.......seemed to work just fine

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Man of the house The husband had just finished reading a new book entitled, 'YOU CAN BE THE MAN OF YOUR HOUSE'. He stormed to his wife in the kitchen and announced, 'From now on, you need to know that I am the man of this house and my word is Law. You will prepare me a gourmet meal tonight, and when I'm finished eating my meal, you will serve me a sumptuous dessert. After dinner, you are going to go upstairs with me and we will have the kind of sex that I want. 'Afterwards, you are going to draw me a bath so I can relax. You will wash my back and towel me dry and bring me my robe...Then, you will massage my feet and hands. Then tomorrow, guess who's going to dress me and do my hair? Without even looking up from her morning paper the wife replied, 'The f**kin' funeral director would be my first guess.'

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel'hell yea. men should be doing at least half. not sitting on the couch demanding beer n sex. we share everything, and have to say, that we have the best relationship.........have done the old fashioned one.... ends in tears Yep, I do half too, then sit on the lounge and watch the other half cook, clean and hoover ;P

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee' Then check out the Matrimonial Properties Act. It may have come into power a little more than 50 years ago but not much and MAN reacts very slowly to change. And I notice there is no dispute against the "rape in marriage" bit which is in fact a law that came into effect very recently. Fiona Fiona Fiona. A little herstory lesson and a bit of understanding goes a long way towards appreciating why I said what I did. Please let me explain and I'll type slowly.... Statute law changes the common law. The common law is that women can own property. It has always been that way. Long long ago, in pre-Victorian times, when a woman married a man, her property was his. He could sell it without her consent. On divorce, however, the property was divided between them, much like it is today. That was the common law. Then, in around 1880 in Australia at least, The Married Woman's Act (NSW) changed the common law by statute. Parliament changed the law of this land. The common law on that question was usurped so that married women could retain property in their names. That being around 130 years ago.The statute you refer to, The Matrimonial Properties Act is not common law. It is statute and it was passed by NZ parliament, I think.... which has nothing to do with Australian law. No jurisdiction here, at all. None. And this is why women should not be allowed to vote.HugsStalky

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Sorry.... I said the common law was that a husband could sell his wife's pre-marriage property without her consent... whereas the common law has always been that he needed her consent. Oops.. my bad. I was being a little theatrical... must be a hang over from that cross dressing session yesterday. :p HugsStalky

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem'Yay Brae! Nice weather for a Sunday roast, eh? . TO, you're such good value! *insert the little love struck emoticon thingy* . Stalky, you already know I think you're right, so I'll not say it again here. . Focus, please pass the popcorn, I do hope some hottie turns up with the beer soon. . couldnt find a hottie...so i had to bring the beer..sorry now move over girls and can i please have the popcorn.. roxxy

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    When I meet a woman who double crumbs the chicken and makes a bosciola sauce as good as I do then I'll consider allowing her to encroach on my kitchen space, until then she needs to just chill in front of the TV while I deal with the important stuff. I cook, clean, wash clothes, mow lawns the whole lot but there is never any question about masculinity etc. I also expect a woman to be everything she can be, at work, home and as a parent. I don't make demands but encourage and support my partner to give them the confidence to grow and achieve. Equality is good, relationships should be equal but we also need to be willing to pull a bigger load when our partner is strugging. I think divorce happens more often because it is easier to get and now that the courts divide assets based on contribution it's less of a risk of losing 80% because the other partner has custody. We also live in a disposable society and unfortunately it's not just nappies and paper plates now, it includes relationships.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    See when I saw the heading of this post I thought it was going to be another one of those dicks just stirring the pot to see if they could pick a fight. But not quite! Yes there's a bit of pot stirring but see how it can be done with good humour and some intelligence, ah Brae you have sparked off a thought provoking topic and it seems not to have fallen into the gutter. Great style!What do I think? What does Mrs Pup think? We are in 100% agreement (perfect equality here haha)....and we agree with both sides. Having a society where one sex is not down trodden is a great thing but in our haste to get there we've confused a lot of things too. Women should be special, men should put them on pedestals and open doors for them, but then how is this equal? I guess men need to feel special too? We just don't understand why men and women have to be exactly the same? We're not, we're oh so different and like to be treated differently. Gee men treat other men like shit and women treat other women like shit too. So in all equality it is right for the same men to treat women like shit hey?Survival of the fittest is brutal, men have fought tough with each other and now it's ok for them to fight touch with women. Gee I would have thought it was the Woo in Woman that lead to a lot of more peaceful decisions coming around (I know a Man's lust for a woman has started it's fair share of wars too).So yes this new world is confusing but we're doing an ok job of it. We sort out the duties based on what we like to do and what we really hate to do. I can whip up a 3 hat dinner no probs and I love doing it so I get the lions share of cooking BUT I despise washing up so I get to make a mess and not clean it up . We're both here nor there on the cleaning so we have a little outside help and she does most of the inside and I do most of the outside. We both work, our money goes into one account and it's ours, we don't keep tabs on who's earning more than who (of course Mr Pup "knows" he's winning but also knows it wont always be this way). When we're out for dinner "he" usually pays as Mrs Pup prefers it, she likes to be wined and dined and it doesn't matter where the money comes from. He wishes she used the account less for shoes though!So we try to divide the duties but when we chat about how we'd want to do things in fantasy land...well you know even though Mrs Pup loves her job and earns more than most men she still laments having to delay babies and a big part of her would have loved to be a stay at home mum but how can she waste all those years of uni now!!! On the other hand there's me, the MAN of the house. Well we made decisions together that her career would take priority as there is more future in it so a lot of time, study and money was invested in it. So when we pop a little un out I'll be strapping it on my back, which I'm quite happy about actually. I still know Mrs Pup will be envious but we're aiming at sharing as best we can.Hammers, well my old man was very good at manly things but not so good as a father so didn't pass on all those skills. I still feel like a man in front of Mrs Pup as she's just so damn girly but my hammer skills are pretty much limited to hanging art on the walls so if there's any hot, young lasses out there that are really handy man women then we've got plenty of odd jobs to do around the house and we'd both love to perve at your plumbers crack as you do them!

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Do not patronise me. Not now and not ever. l Yes the Matrimonila Properties Act was a NZ Law. Very sorry about that. My bad. I did notice that you picked up on only the legislation governing property. How about all the rest? Not relevant? How about Sexual Discriminatoion Act 1984 Glass Ceiling which can and does exist First Woman to be appointed to the Supreme court in 1965 - men making laws about something they do not understand...women! It was actually stated by a judge in a Supreme Court trial in 1993 that " husbands could use rougher than usual handling to persuade thier wives to have sexual intercourse".....Judge Bollen ABA Statistcs ...2002 Average weekly total earnings for ALL employees....$700.60 $838.80 for male employees $554.70 for female employees l It was not until WW11 that women were actually considered as a workforce and this only came about due to the fact that all the young men were overseas fighting. l If and when women acheive equallity...we will let you know. I do not need my role defining by a man. I know exactly where I sit..... l Firmly in the drivers seat

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Have the dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed. l Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has been with a lot of work weary people. l Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it. l Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables. l During the cooler months of the year you should prepare a light fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense satisfaction. l Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise from the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet. l Be happy to see him. l Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerely your desire to please him. l Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours. l Don't greet him with complaints and problems. l Dont complain if he is late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work. l Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. l Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice. l Dont ask him questions about his actions or question his judgemnet or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him. l A good wife always knows her place. l l Well with advice like this being given to women only sixty years ago it is no wonder the poor men of today are confused. Feminism has obviously robbed them of thier rightful place in the home. I mean 60 years is not very long on the evolutionary scale.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Have the dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed. l Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has been with a lot of work weary people. l Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it. l Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables. l During the cooler months of the year you should prepare a light fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense satisfaction. l Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise from the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet. l Be happy to see him. l Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerely your desire to please him. l Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours. l Don't greet him with complaints and problems. l Dont complain if he is late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work. l Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. l Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice. l Dont ask him questions about his actions or question his judgemnet or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him. l A good wife always knows her place. l l Well with advice like this being given to women only sixty years ago it is no wonder the poor men of today are confused. Feminism has obviously robbed them of thier rightful place in the home. I mean 60 years is not very long on the evolutionary scale.

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    It seems today to me an anathema that where two persons were destined to pass their live together one should be dominant and other should be subordinate. It was once assumed that the man should be the dominant party because his superior physical strength. Dominance is a man's natural right; god has given the man greater wit, better strength, better courage, to compel the women to obey, by reason or force; and to woman, beauty, fair countenance, and sweet words, to make the man obey her again for love.I have no qualms about the way people choose to share their love and all power to them.HugsStalky

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    omg all this opinionated arguing back and forth just outlines how unattractive some people are...........you may as well mount neon lights. ugly small minded ignorant and arrogant. get a life, get a grip. and behave like adults ffs

  • RHP

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    15 years ago

    Sometimes it's just as much fun to sit one row back behind all the hot chicks in the theatre and thow bits of popcorn that land so softly in their hair that they don't even know it until they shake their head...then it snows. If you're feeling lucky and want to flirt in the quiet...aim properly and a piece of popcorn will sail over their head and down the cleavage in their top. Make sure it's warm and has lots of buttery stuff on it... | The tags got you in trouble so here's the rest of the song, now let's play nice and sing... | I don't take no crap from anybody(else but you)I wear the pants around here(when I finish with your laundry)Coz I'm a guy you don't wanna fight(When I say "jump", you say "yeah right!")I'm the man of this house(until you get home)|What I say goes around here(right out the window)and I don't wanna hear a lot of whining(so I'll shut up)The sooner you learn who's Boss around here(The sooner you can give me my orders, dear)Coz I'm head-honcho around here(but it's all in my head)|And I can have sex anytime(that you want it)Coz I'm a man who has needs(but they're not that important)And don't expect any flowers from me(Coz if I'm not mistaken you prefer jewellery)I'm the king of my castle(when you're not around)|And I'll drink and watch sports whenever I wanna(get in trouble)And I'll come home when I'm good and ready(to sleep on the couch)Coz a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do(And I'm gonna do what you tell me to)Because I'm top dog around here(but I've been neutered) | ...I love this song, hell it's an anthem in some marriages and if that's the topic I am steering well clear of it. | That said, the past does not equal the future unless you want it to be the same. You can only change the world by changing one mind at a time and we are all entitled to our own thoughts on that. The Betty Crocker cookbook first and second editions both published by the early '50s were lifestyle manuals...but back then you could buy a house for under $10,000 and if you followed the recipes, anybody could cook. | Okay...got my big bucket of popcorn and have zeroed in on the "cleavage zone" by making a couple of test bombing runs on the empty seats to the right and left of the hot chicks. | Pssstttt....folks, the best relationships of any kind are when two people are totally self-sufficient alphas and agree to agree and better still agree to disagree sometimes too, just sort out all the rest of the minor details later. Personally, I don't care if you're on top, on the bottow or like it side by side...we both win. Put in "zero maintenance landscaping" and find a retired handyman to work under the table to pound the nails into the walls or fix the sheetrock if he/she/it misses with the hammer. | Short form...I would rather have wild raunchy sex than argue about stupid stuff like whose washing my jocks. If I throw them against the wall and they stick...I will just burn those and go buy some new ones. | Okay....start the show!

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    I just bought this song!!Put your clothes back on I'd rather be alone Your thing is all worn out Now get on home You've had too many lovers They've worn off the hair Now there ain't no way I'm goin' in there Put your clothes on And get on home Should've never gone out Should have never had a drink Take that thing outside it's startin' to stink Your friends done told me Where you have been And I feel sorry For all those men Put your clothes back on baby And get on home Yeah get that thing away from me It looks like something Your dog would eat Seen enough now set me free I think that thing just barked at meEarly this morning it bit my leg Oh little darling Don't you make me beg Put your clothes back on And get on home Oh shit I'm scared I need medical care I think three midgets just Crawled out of there I was fine before you came Would you throw something over That pitiful thing Baby put your clothes back on And get on home Yeah Put your clothes on And get your booty back home

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    Oh gawd, Stalky...just don't ever play one of those country western CD's backwards...the ex that left comes back (with the three kids she had with the other guys) you are filthy rich (but the revenue agents find out it came from selling moonshine and that funny tobacco out on the back forty) the neighbor's husband finds out what you have been up to (then tells you he nailed the good one across the street and thanks you) and.......your dog runs away. The only thing is life that makes it worth livin'... | ...and you know how the rest of that song goes!

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    I can see the point you are making however how can you say that relationships were better and people were happier? Divorce was seen as really bad because society was more religious and feared god and people just didn't realise if a relationship is broke you can actually jst leave and start again. I really don;t believe people were any happier in marriage back then compared to today, I firmly believe they pretended to or put up with a bad marriage because leaving just wasn't an easy option. Plus anyway EVERYBODY should know how to cook the same way they should know how to dress themselves or have a shower... basic life skill that one.

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    Mr CCC and I have rather a traditional marriage...he goes to work and earns all the money, I stay at home and look after our child, and cook and clean and wash... It works for us. I can hardly expect him to work 12 hours a day for 7 days, and come home and do all of my 'duties' aswell (he works away).I think women feel the pressure of "Modern' roles because they are expected to fill all 'roles' and be 'perfect'. Women are stressed out and worn out. They are expected to work full time, as well as fill traditional roles, IMO, it just doesnt work. By doing what we are, we know where we stand, and what is expected of us. Sure, we cross over every now and then, and we support each other. I never wanted a 'career' I always wanted to be a housewife/ mother. And in the bedroom, he is the dominant one...we both win...

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    Equality of the sexes does not exist. The only thing that the bra burners of the 60's achieved was a lot of confused males and saggy breasts. Men and women are hardwired to think differently and unless we start genetic modification of humans it ain't gonna change!!! What the women's libbers were after was a level of respect that was lacking in society at that time and some degree of recognition for the hard work they did as homemakers and child raisers. On a higher level the women wanted society to realise that females have the ability to do the same work as men. In some areas it is still something of a novelty to have a female in the position so we haven't come all that far. 50 years ago divorce may have been harder to get but it was also considered somewhat shameful. Little wonder then that "respectable people" stayed together and put up with their situation. Most men who work full time forget that for the women who stay at home and look after the kids, their job isn't 9am to 5pm, more like 5am to 9pm. No sick days and plenty of overtime!! The only winners in a divorce these days are the lawyers.Equality in relationships exists but only where both partners communicate well with each other. If you have respect for your partner and their differences then you are more likely to have equality. For instance, I am happy to do the cooking because I know that my partner doesn't take it for granted that I will automatically do it and he always shows his appreciation. And although he makes jokes about it he has never been disparaging about my wanting to drive cars competitively and has always given me his full support. It's one of the few sports where men and women compete on an equal basis. (Wish they would use some scantily clad men to promote motor sports for a change!)One thing that did change was a women's right to say no. No more unwanted groping from sleazy bosses. No more tit grabbing from men in the pub. I doesn't matter that the guy has the worlds biggest erection, we are still entitled to say no.We have the right to look sexy without the judgement. Would you guys really like us to wear the kinds of clothes and underwear our mothers/grandmothers wore? Do huge undies, beige bras and bri-nylon nighties with little flowers on the front turn you on? Shall we stop shaving our legs, underarms and nether regions?Forget burning your bra ladies, keep them on with your matching undies, put a nice dress on over them, put on some high heels and make-up and tie a ribbon around your waist. Walk up to your man and whisper in his ear - if you take me out to dinner I will let you unwrap me later!

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    I love these ones dont you...and with Mum and 'Dad' (hehehe do you think he wil notice me calling him that???) fighting again it is always heaps of fun . Another bowl of popcorn is onits way - cause i know Roxxy and I dont share and with CM throwing it in people hair he could waste alot . Getting comfy . Kissses Focus

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    Even though you just totally demolished all the fun we used to have at the office... | Quoting 'MistressT' One thing that did change was a women's right to say no. No more unwanted groping from sleazy bosses. No more tit grabbing from men in the pub. I doesn't matter that the guy has the worlds biggest erection, we are still entitled to say no.We have the right to look sexy without the judgement. Forget burning your bra ladies, keep them on with your matching undies, put a nice dress on over them, put on some high heels and make-up and tie a ribbon around your waist. Walk up to your man and whisper in his ear - if you take me out to dinner I will let you unwrap me later! | ...you just added about 1000 bonus point to the real fun we can have as men and women together on a level playing field in every other facet of modern life. | I knew I liked you even without the whip.

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    15 years ago

    vaguely related to the topic, but i laughed....may lighten the mood The missus was watching a cookery programme the other day. I said, "What you watching that for? You can't cook." She said, "You watch porn."

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    Quoting 'barrelboi' vaguely related to the topic, but i laughed....may lighten the mood The missus was watching a cookery programme the other day. I said, "What you watching that for? You can't cook." She said, "You watch porn." hahahah! That's brilliant. :p Are you giving your wife permission to come to Sydney with you? hehe. :PHugsStalky

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    15 years ago

    and round and round and round we go..........................

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    15 years ago

    I'd be happy to do all the traditional house wifey things....Provided. He did all the traditional husbandy things like, Support me financially (fully) and give me everything I desire, and All those manly chores like looking after the lawn and garden, changing tap washers, handy man jobs around the house etc etc. In the mean time I just do everything........well kinda. I have a guy come and mow the yard and cleaners come in once a week :) As for tap washers, if I keep the bathroom door shut I cant hear the drip so it's no drama. Yes.....women can survive quiet nicely without a man these days. And I personnaly believe in sharing the workload if you are both working. It's all about love, respect and caring for your partner.

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    15 years ago

    Erm, what are all you women doing posting comments here, shouldnt you be in the kitchen doing the washing up? ? ? ? ? I love to cook so long as I can serve the food with a good bottle of red wine....problem I have is that I have usually had to open the wine to breath while cooking and by the time the meal is ready the wine is gone......Just as well that I keep in a good stock so that I can always open another for the meal..

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'theone1983'u had to learn to use a hammer? was it a trial and error thing, or did someone have to teach you? I learnt as a child...the same as the boys with my own fair share of hit thumbs, building billy carts and cubby houses. I bet your daddy showed you how many years ago. I grew up without a father and taught myself. Trial and error. These days I renovate houses. All 5'2 of me....all by myself I build internal walls, tile bathrooms, lay carpet. The ONLY thing I dont do is electrics. So sorry if my sense of humour may be missing in this topic and I will appologise before hand but our rights as the down trodden sex is important to me. I may go for the balls occassionallly.as you probably know, i'm just giving u a bit of a ribbing. just thought it was kinda funny, cos to use a hammer, u just hold one end and hit with the other. u will be happy to know that karma bit me on the ass, and i had to use a hammer and chisel for over 3 hours today, chipping away tiles and adhesive, and it sucked ass the whole time, poetic justice wouldnt u agree?

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    Quoting 'barrelboi' vaguely related to the topic, but i laughed....may lighten the mood The missus was watching a cookery programme the other day. I said, "What you watching that for? You can't cook." She said, "You watch porn." Haha Love that one

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee' Have the dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed. l Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has been with a lot of work weary people. l Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it. l Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables. l During the cooler months of the year you should prepare a light fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense satisfaction. l Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise from the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet. l Be happy to see him. l Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerely your desire to please him. l Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours. l Don't greet him with complaints and problems. l Dont complain if he is late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work. l Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. l Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice. l Dont ask him questions about his actions or question his judgemnet or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him. l A good wife always knows her place. l l This is awesome.... I mean I questioned the whole point of marriage... but this could turn me. Do they still make women like this? And if they do... is it an optional extra or standard inclusion to not have them backchat men on law? I mean we wrote the bloody things, surely it is up to men to interpret them and help the ditzy womenfolk understand them.

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    Quoting 'davej69_4u' Erm, what are all you women doing posting comments here, shouldnt you be in the kitchen doing the washing up? ? ? ? ? I love to cook so long as I can serve the food with a good bottle of red wine....problem I have is that I have usually had to open the wine to breath while cooking and by the time the meal is ready the wine is gone......Just as well that I keep in a good stock so that I can always open another for the meal.. I'm heading back there right now, cos that's where all my sharp shit and boiling hot stuff is kept. "I make special wonton soup for you" just kidding

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel'and round and round and round we go.......................... looks like mikeandshel are getting dizzy we better catch them...and I am sure there is an echo in here.. . Kisses Focus

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    15 years ago

    I do not find disparaging comments about the equality of the sexes funny, humourous or anything to crack jokes about. No we have not come along way in achieving equality but any step forward is better than a step backwards. For those of you who do think that this topic is for fun and ridicule, have an indepth look at the women in this country who still live in servitude. Those that are sold into the sex trade. Then there are those women who still suffer the indignancies of female circumcision. Yes I am talking about Australia....God's own country. The land of the free. When these issues are addressed along with equal pay for equal work, more women making the laws that govern them maybe I will find some levity in the situation.

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    15 years ago

    and I can't see the ridicule ? It's obvious that you are very passionate about this subject matter Fiona But sometimes it's all about picking the 'right battlefield', are you going to be able to drum any sense into anyone on here? Or are you more likely to get yourself worked up with it all falling on deaf ears? . I'm looking at it from the fifth corner in the square, what I see on rhp and in the forums is hundreds of strong and capable women who not only work,run familys and extras, who are also taking control of their sex lives (previously known as Manland LOL) Demanding the kind of sexual fulfilment they've always wanted and bloody well making sure they get it!!! . It was always going to ruffle a few cock feathers

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    15 years ago

    Barrelboi - that was a crack up thanks!I read something a long time ago, wish I could remember the source but it was all about economics so I probably fell asleep but before I did I was intrigued by one point. Incomes and standards of livings were compared pre women joining the workforce en mass and then after. What was shown was that average standards of living were achieved with just one wage in the family unit then women joined the workforce so you had 2 incomes per family unit - so were people doubly well off? Noooo what this allowed governments to do was to half the effective incomes so that then 2 family incomes gave the same standard of living as one. So yes there's plenty of bad shit that happens less now, good stuff. BUT it seems that this little exercise in equality has now made it COMPULSORY for both parents in the family unit to work...thereby poor pity the backward woman who might just like to stay home and raise a family..she has no choice now!!! Equal pay for equal work...what a crock, now we get half the value so who cares about little variance in wages between the sexes. So hurray for the modern woman..now she MUST work, she MUST have a boob job, she MUST pay her own way. Ohhhh and then to realise that most of the old fashion men were slogging away at their jobs not out of pure love of working but to provide the best they could for their family. Now women can do the same but who the hell is going to have the damn babies?OK now someone crack a joke as this whole thing is much more appetizing with a smile on our dials

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'theone1983' Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'theone1983'as you probably know, i'm just giving u a bit of a ribbing. just thought it was kinda funny, cos to use a hammer, u just hold one end and hit with the other. u will be happy to know that karma bit me on the ass, and i had to use a hammer and chisel for over 3 hours today, chipping away tiles and adhesive, and it sucked ass the whole time, poetic justice wouldnt u agree? Yes I do know that you are giving me a bit of ribbing and karma is a bitch. Today I was hanging plasterboard...one of my least favourite chores

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'puppy'. Now women can do the same but who the hell is going to have the damn babies?I get the babies...and people like me when the whole family unit goes down the drain because it is just too damn hard.

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    Yep we've advanced so much in so many areas in such a short time but what has all this advancement got us? Headaches, drug and alcohol problems, domestic violence..or just plain violence all over the damn place...and so the list goes on. I for one would like things a little more simple. Yep some men were pigs in the old days, like the guy next door that beat his wife and kids...BUT there were simple solutions too and he never even raised a voice to his family after my father showed him the error of his ways - he was lucky to live! Ahh it all is too damn hard isn't it..lucky we have sex and humour else we'd be completely fucked and not enjoy it! I'm off to ask Mrs Pup if she will allow me to fondle her breasts nowxxx

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    15 years ago

    my wife comes anywhere near the kitchen to do anything more than make me a sandwich or coffee and look out hmmmm well maybe to bend over the table whooooo

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    15 years ago

    If a man is a chef..... ....does he come home and cook ?

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    15 years ago

    woohoo....This is an area of great debate (sometimes passionate!)Unfortunately, everything in this arena is hypothetical, and not really possible to subject to rigorous scientific testing as,the elements of convention or tradition seem to play a dominant role in deciding which abilities or responsibilities fit in with which gender roles.Its safe to say that the sex one is born with does not directly determine one's abilities or responsibilities. The separation of social roles along gender lines is an accepted consensus, evolution selects the traits most desired for the differring social roles.On a lighter note...Women will never be truely equal to men until, they can walk down the street with a bald head and a beer gut, and still think they are sexy.

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    15 years ago

    In my dungeon the women rule!!!

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    15 years ago

    Yeah yeah yeah...what-ever. Hey, while you're down the beating the wombats out of some couch potato with a fat wallet... | Quoting 'MistressT'In my dungeon the women rule!!! | ...would you please check the "boys fridge" and bring me up another bottle of cold scotch? And if you don't mind...ditch the hat and put the ribbon back in your hair before you come back. | Thanks!

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    Quoting 'dontgothere'It was always going to ruffle a few cock feathers Who's ruffled? I merely pointed out the passionate overzeolous and baseless statistics because, when I read it, I thought "that can't be even close to accurate." As for equality, fine.... just don't think for a minute equality means telling me how I should live my life and how anyone else should behave in their relationship.HUgsStalky

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    Quoting 'stalky' Quoting 'dontgothere'It was always going to ruffle a few cock feathers Who's ruffled? I merely pointed out the passionate overzeolous and baseless statistics because, when I read it, I thought "that can't be even close to accurate." As for equality, fine.... just don't think for a minute equality means telling me how I should live my life and how anyone else should behave in their relationship.HUgsStalky Stalky you can do whatever you like Im not a bra burner, I like a man to do man 'stuff' and personally I love the differences between the two sexes. Merely pointing out to Fiona that I couldn't see the ridicule she mentioned on here...... But I see that you took it to be directed at you That must mean........ . . . . . . You wear a feather boa around your cock . Honestly I wasn't aiming my comment to anyone personally, but in a much broader sense and not exclusive to the forums. This isn't the battlefield for an equality arguement, in fact it's heading in the opposite direction of the desired result. With most of us on here to find and be with a person from the other sex, for sex, what the hell are we doing debating it . we should all be getting 'nekid' and getting it on Leave all the equality argument for the afterglow when we start fighting over who's turn it is to make brekky

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    15 years ago

    stupid bloody argument that goes around and around. you want equality? then behave like adults! ffs.

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    Quoting 'ruby_blossum' If a man is a chef..... ....does he come home and cook ? Have you ever seen a mechanics car? Or a plumbers work-in-progress bathroom? Or an electricians half completed light fittings and switches hanging out of walls? . I'd say it's the same for chefs...

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    loz... probably very close to the truth. I would think the last thing a chef would want to do is come home and cook. HugsStalky Quoting 'Jean_Girard' Have you ever seen a mechanics car? Or a plumbers work-in-progress bathroom? Or an electricians half completed light fittings and switches hanging out of walls? . I'd say it's the same for chefs...

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    15 years ago

    Men are simple. We are always thinking of sex (scientifically proven) We are terrible multi taskers (always being told by women) Cooking is a complex task. Sex is a complex task. Which would you prefer us to do well, something we are always thinking about or something we do for sustanence??? I think you can see why men generally dont cook well, other than in the bedroom!!!!

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'ruby_blossum' If a man is a chef..... ....does he come home and cook ? I know one who does

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    Quoting 'dontgothere' and I can't see the ridicule ? It's obvious that you are very passionate about this subject matter Fiona But sometimes it's all about picking the 'right battlefield', are you going to be able to drum any sense into anyone on here? Or are you more likely to get yourself worked up with it all falling on deaf ears? . I'm looking at it from the fifth corner in the square, what I see on rhp and in the forums is hundreds of strong and capable women who not only work,run familys and extras, who are also taking control of their sex lives (previously known as Manland LOL) Demanding the kind of sexual fulfilment they've always wanted and bloody well making sure they get it!!! . It was always going to ruffle a few cock feathers If you can make just one neandethal stop and think. Baby steps.

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    Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'dontgothere' and I can't see the ridicule ? It's obvious that you are very passionate about this subject matter Fiona But sometimes it's all about picking the 'right battlefield', are you going to be able to drum any sense into anyone on here? Or are you more likely to get yourself worked up with it all falling on deaf ears? . I'm looking at it from the fifth corner in the square, what I see on rhp and in the forums is hundreds of strong and capable women who not only work,run familys and extras, who are also taking control of their sex lives (previously known as Manland LOL) Demanding the kind of sexual fulfilment they've always wanted and bloody well making sure they get it!!! . It was always going to ruffle a few cock feathers If you can make just one neandethal stop and think. Baby steps. I really don't mind the odd bit of knuckle dragging Lol in fact it's downright sexy sometimes. Our equality may not be there still in the workforce, but its getting closer all the time, where it really comes into play is within our relationships at home. These days the majority of my circle of friends have got it quite right, a nice balance of both, with the 'old fashioned' theme being the small minority. Why they put up with it is beyond me, but also not my place to say or roll my eyes at. . Basically I've never minded mine or my partners roles or how they've been divided, but again I'm in direct control of that and how I let it affect me. the only thing I WOULD have liked was for a little appreciation for those times I was working while pregnant or breastfeeding (running for my breast pump in my breaks) organising extra milk for feeds while I was gone, and THEN coming home to do the meals. Its fucking twice as taxing on the body physically and not long before mental fatigue kicks you in the arse. Jebus crikey!!! spaghetti on toast would have been a godsend if it was made by someone else . . THOSE are the only days where you would likely hear me say, " Suck your own damn cock"!!!

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    15 years ago

    Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' Yeah yeah yeah...what-ever. Hey, while you're down the beating the wombats out of some couch potato with a fat wallet... | Quoting 'MistressT'In my dungeon the women rule!!! | ...would you please check the "boys fridge" and bring me up another bottle of cold scotch? And if you don't mind...ditch the hat and put the ribbon back in your hair before you come back. | Thanks! Sorry darling I couldn't hear you above noise my subbie boy was making. What was it you wanted? A drink? Which arm shall I untie so you can drink it? Or should I just pull your head back and tip it down your throat? Hmmm.....maybe I can get a straw past the ball gag.

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    15 years ago

    but dosent it take all kinds to round this world up ??? if everyone and everything was the same how boreing life would get ,,,,,,,,,,,,, then again being perfect is such a burden ...................oops Andy xxx

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    Quoting 'stalky' Quoting 'dontgothere'It was always going to ruffle a few cock feathers Who's ruffled? I merely pointed out the passionate overzeolous and baseless statistics because, when I read it, I thought "that can't be even close to accurate." As for equality, fine.... just don't think for a minute equality means telling me how I should live my life and how anyone else should behave in their relationship.HUgsStalky I cannot see where anyone was trying to tell you how to live your life. Mayhaps it is merely a case of he who protests the loudest has the guiltiest conscience. Always works with kids.

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    Lets go back 50 years, why not.When the wife was to do as she was told and it was ok for a beating when she didn't just lay there and be something to lay on while he had a fuck.Yes lets just do that.My husband & I work together, he cooks an amazing meal and I help doing the lawns.We work together as a couple.Never has he raised a hand to me in eleven years of being together.Yes we fight every now and again but doesn't every body.He opens the car door for me every time, rain or hail.We both work and pay the bills as a couple.We decide all things great or small as a couple but if we go back50 years the onus is on him.No wonder the guy's back then where called men, they hung out at the pub until closing time with their mates, bit gay to me I think.I would prefer to have my husband be the gentleman he is.Cooking or not cooking.

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    15 years ago

    I wish my posts would get on sometime while they're any where near relevant pretty please rhp

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    wooooh Nelly ,sound as the next world war , alll though their is something very sexy about a woman in uniform ,,,promote them all i say !! because if youve never had a blow job from your commanding officer ? Well ,,,,,, you just havent Lived ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ( Jack Nicolson )lol he he classic ;) love em , love to hate em , love lovin them how are we suppose to know what they want ?? when 90% of the wonderful creatures dont know them selves ? ? thats what make them all so intriguing, its a mystery bag - real Kinder surprise , i Love eating chocolate !!!!!!!It is what it is , and it will always be , gotta love it all and keep the world turning , try that for a wirl xox

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    Sorry MT, but I think you read the wrong set of intructions to my version of "Dungeons and Dragons". So be a good little evil mistress and put a wiggle on your cute butt down the stairs and get that bottle of scotch for me, please? Be nice...I don't want to tell all these guys about your little pink slippers with the bunny ears and the cute nose with little whiskers. | Quoting 'MistressT' Sorry darling I couldn't hear you above noise my subbie boy was making. What was it you wanted? | Oh too...can I drop off my laundry so you can scuffle off in those cute little slippers and iron my jocks? I am just sooooo hopeless at ironing around the monogram. | Thanks...................hun! | | Use me, abuse me...just don't loose me and please, iron my jocks!

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    Quoting 'japaniso' Lets go back 50 years, why not.When the wife was to do as she was told and it was ok for a beating when she didn't just lay there and be something to lay on while he had a fuck.Yes lets just do that.My husband & I work together, he cooks an amazing meal and I help doing the lawns.We work together as a couple.Never has he raised a hand to me in eleven years of being together.Yes we fight every now and again but doesn't every body.He opens the car door for me every time, rain or hail.We both work and pay the bills as a couple.We decide all things great or small as a couple but if we go back50 years the onus is on him.No wonder the guy's back then where called men, they hung out at the pub until closing time with their mates, bit gay to me I think.I would prefer to have my husband be the gentleman he is.Cooking or not cooking. you get it. well said. we share everything, we do the garden together, wash dishes together, do the groceries together etc etc etc why? so we can free some time up to spend with each other. we role play too....i wash cars and she irons, but hey she bbq's and i bake. but you know what? we'd never argue about equality or shite like that. theres a myriad of things that each of us does that the other cannot. i earn sensational money. she does not. i lift heavy things. she doesnt. i scrub the bath tub. she cant. she had kids, i wouldn't want to........... people should try respect rather than equality. try understanding too. women will never be men and men will never be women. no matter how hard they try, no matter who says what. we dont 'get' a hundred things about each other. but that dont matter. we just enjoy being kind and considerate towards each other, and yes, get off on the whole opening car doors and looking after each other game play we have going.......lifes too short and precious to spend half of it arguing about who should have what or what they should do for/to each other. dont argue and carry on like you know it 'all' ..........i guarantee that you dont......all the bickering does is highlight just how ridiculously ignorant you are and how arrogant you are within your beliefs.

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    Quoting 'Jean_Girard' Quoting 'fionabee' Have the dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed. l Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has been with a lot of work weary people. l Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it. l Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables. l During the cooler months of the year you should prepare a light fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense satisfaction. l Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise from the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet. l Be happy to see him. l Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerely your desire to please him. l Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours. l Don't greet him with complaints and problems. l Dont complain if he is late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work. l Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. l Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice. l Dont ask him questions about his actions or question his judgemnet or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him. l A good wife always knows her place. l l This is awesome.... I mean I questioned the whole point of marriage... but this could turn me. Do they still make women like this? And if they do... is it an optional extra or standard inclusion to not have them backchat men on law? I mean we wrote the bloody things, surely it is up to men to interpret them and help the ditzy womenfolk understand them. And yes it is amusing. I use this as part of a lesson plan with year 11 students.

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    Quoting 'mikeandshel'stupid bloody argument that goes around and around. you want equality? then behave like adults! ffs. Click off

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    Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'mikeandshel'stupid bloody argument that goes around and around. you want equality? then behave like adults! ffs. Click off behave like an adult.

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    i seen an interview once with a neuro surgen mr Teo (i think that is his name) and he said in the perfect relationship it has to be 100% to him that meant....if she was having a bad week, work, kids, whatever and was only cappable of putting in 10% then as long as he put in the other 90% then all would be fine it all worked the other way too...if the man was having an off week and could only manage 10% then as long as she put in the other 90% then all is good we cant always put in 100% in to any relationship so i think as long as the other person picked up the slack then all will be good so if that means he cooks because she cant...then so be it if she does the garden and the mowing because he cant...then so be it who cares who does what as long as it all equals 100% thats all you need roxxy

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    Geez, I tried the same thing and was still in "cyber jammie jail" for a while. Hey...I have an idea for you though...gentleman that I am. | Quoting 'dontgothere'I wish my posts would get on sometime while they're any where near relevant | They do say a picture speaks a thousand words so you, me, the Nikon...a fabulous meal and an executive suite? Come on, you know you want to and besides... | ...you can leave your hat on. | | A phone cam with that body is an injustice. Obey the laws of nature and Nikon!

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    Quoting 'fionabee' Do not patronise me. Not now and not ever. Let's make a deal.... You try and practice a bit of your own advice and not be so condescending ... and maybe I'll think about letting some of your most obvious fuck-ups slide by.HugsStalky

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    I agree with the japaniso.Personally, I'm not into these stereotypes. There's been great men and great women throughout history all of whom are inspirational and all of whom got over it to get there. My own parents are from the 50's.... they had a small business... mum ran the business, dad worked in the factory laboring, and we cooked dinner for when they came home.In my own family, I do all the cooking, my wife takes out the garbage and does the washing up. She drives the mower and I use the whipper snipper. Stereotypes have never been my life's experience. If people choose to live the stereotype, then that's entirely their business. If you're a woman in this day and age don't bitch about equality... open your mind and it's there for the taking. I don't want to hear all this bleeting. It's just excuses for your failures and low self esteem.HugsStalky Quoting 'japaniso' Lets go back 50 years, why not.When the wife was to do as she was told and it was ok for a beating when she didn't just lay there and be something to lay on while he had a fuck.Yes lets just do that.My husband & I work together, he cooks an amazing meal and I help doing the lawns.We work together as a couple.Never has he raised a hand to me in eleven years of being together.Yes we fight every now and again but doesn't every body.He opens the car door for me every time, rain or hail.We both work and pay the bills as a couple.We decide all things great or small as a couple but if we go back50 years the onus is on him.

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    Quoting 'fionabee' SNIP - Long long list of what the perfect woman should be like - SNIP And yes it is amusing. I use this as part of a lesson plan with year 11 students. I've heard from three who were made properly so far. One of them even offered to be my secretary if I slapped her arse occassionally and called her 'sugar'. Well it wasn't so much an offer, but as a 50's man I take certain liberties. . But I am starting to think Brae has a point... I mean this list of things women should be doing for men that Fiona kindly posted to help keep women on track (and good on you for teaching it to Yr 11 students, maybe there is hope for the younger generation yet.)... I notice that there are very few ladies living up to this ideal. And that's fine.. I mean from what I can gather is unreasonable to expect to come home to a nice meal, some fluffy slippers and a clean house. OK... so I'll sacrifice that. But what responsibilities are we men able to dismiss as 'oh that's unequal, so I am not doing it!' . And no... this isn't a request for a "I am woman and I mow lawns, or hang pictures or drywall". I am not asking what it is you can do that a man does. I am asking when you are in a relationship, what things are you letting the man off the hook for that are 'traditionally' expected of him. (given we have almost let you off the hook for everything you should be doing according to Fiona's post).

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    Quoting 'dontgothere' I really don't mind the odd bit of knuckle dragging Lol in fact it's downright sexy sometimes. Our equality may not be there still in the workforce, but its getting closer all the time, where it really comes into play is within our relationships at home. These days the majority of my circle of friends have got it quite right, a nice balance of both, with the 'old fashioned' theme being the small minority. Why they put up with it is beyond me, but also not my place to say or roll my eyes at. . Basically I've never minded mine or my partners roles or how they've been divided, but again I'm in direct control of that and how I let it affect me. the only thing I WOULD have liked was for a little appreciation for those times I was working while pregnant or breastfeeding (running for my breast pump in my breaks) organising extra milk for feeds while I was gone, and THEN coming home to do the meals. Its fucking twice as taxing on the body physically and not long before mental fatigue kicks you in the arse. Jebus crikey!!! spaghetti on toast would have been a godsend if it was made by someone else . . THOSE are the only days where you would likely hear me say, " Suck your own damn cock"!!! I agree with what you say here (and with Roxxy too. It's most likely Dr Charlie Teo you're referring too! Sexy brilliant brain surgeon, he rocks!) . I think empathy and feeling emotionally supported and appreciated for those things you do that you do well are the keys to a satisfying partnership. . This is interesting ... but the popcorn is running low ....

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    Quoting 'fionabee' If you can make just one neandethal stop and think. Baby steps. Why the big mission though? I don't understaaaaand! I want to, I honestly do, but I don't. I'm not being facetious, or a smart arse, I don't require a condescending reply, I just seek to understand why. Please. Why not just appreciate that people are the sum of their experiences and the world a far more interesting place for the presence of neanderthals and narrow-minded people? Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'stalky' Mayhaps it is merely a case of he who protests the loudest has the guiltiest conscience. Always works with kids. I'm sorry, I have to ask this. Are you for real? Seriously?

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    Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem' Quoting 'dontgothere' I really don't mind the odd bit of knuckle dragging Lol in fact it's downright sexy sometimes. Our equality may not be there still in the workforce, but its getting closer all the time, where it really comes into play is within our relationships at home. These days the majority of my circle of friends have got it quite right, a nice balance of both, with the 'old fashioned' theme being the small minority. Why they put up with it is beyond me, but also not my place to say or roll my eyes at. . Basically I've never minded mine or my partners roles or how they've been divided, but again I'm in direct control of that and how I let it affect me. the only thing I WOULD have liked was for a little appreciation for those times I was working while pregnant or breastfeeding (running for my breast pump in my breaks) organising extra milk for feeds while I was gone, and THEN coming home to do the meals. Its fucking twice as taxing on the body physically and not long before mental fatigue kicks you in the arse. Jebus crikey!!! spaghetti on toast would have been a godsend if it was made by someone else . . THOSE are the only days where you would likely hear me say, " Suck your own damn cock"!!! I agree with what you say here (and with Roxxy too. It's most likely Dr Charlie Teo you're referring too! Sexy brilliant brain surgeon, he rocks!) . I think empathy and feeling emotionally supported and appreciated for those things you do that you do well are the keys to a satisfying partnership. . This is interesting ... but the popcorn is running low .... yep thats him, gorgeous fella that he is...a very wise man that one and has been married for years to the same lovely lady...glad i spelt it right hahaha roxxy

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    Roxxy Babe you do it for me everytime your straight forward nature , you lack of political correctness you seriously make me smile ! I love exctracting the gold from your posts ! Everyone ! Charlie's has hit on something there ! Ticklish - Sarah is with you -we choose to live our lives like this with very defined roles - a little old school yes, but as it was pointed out by some wise folk here - it works for us. Pups thankyou for noting my tone ;-) Come on kids it all about Hyundia's , boob jobs and who takes out the trash ....and whether we are all really any happier than we were 50 years ago ? ........... come on now! Men need to be men and lets let women be women and then dont we all get along better ? Brae ........... Thinking his dinner should be ready soon.

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    Quoting 'fionabee' Have the dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed. l Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has been with a lot of work weary people. l Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it. l Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables. l During the cooler months of the year you should prepare a light fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense satisfaction. l Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise from the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet. l Be happy to see him. l Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerely your desire to please him. l Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours. l Don't greet him with complaints and problems. l Dont complain if he is late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work. l Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. l Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice. l Dont ask him questions about his actions or question his judgemnet or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him. l A good wife always knows her place. l l Well with advice like this being given to women only sixty years ago it is no wonder the poor men of today are confused. Feminism has obviously robbed them of thier rightful place in the home. I mean 60 years is not very long on the evolutionary scale. Reading that just makes me wet!!! I would love to be a stay at home house wife, I work a job that gives me the summer off so I love those weeks were I get to be the house wife.

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    Looks like the value on the pressure cooker might be slowly rattling down a bit as the heat on the burner is reduced...so now that I am out of popcorn, just a couple of thoughts. | First...what happened 50 years ago or 100 years ago is a bit like band camp, what happens there should stay there. Fortunately the evolution of society moves at a much faster pace than the one Darwin was talking about although I haven't checked in on the gorilla walking upright at the zoo lately, so who knows. Sure "They Way We Were" was a popular song in it's day but it's now elevator music so why not just accept that and move on. The horse is dead...don't beat it. | So another hypothesis...is a lot of what is being said here actually "equal rights" or somehow an over compensation in a world that is midstream in the dynamics of change? We should all be confused and maybe outraged...petrol is about to roll past $1.70 a litre and most of that is tax and bullshit. We all ought to get on top of the soapbox about that. Ostrich Gillard has gone under the sand and right now we need somebody to figure out what's going on with our economy, fixing up the mess in Queensland and repositioning ourselves in the X-Japan markets for the next few years. | I could give a shit about who cooks or cleans or straightens the seams in your knickers...get them out of a knot and maybe, just maybe...that noise you hear might be a bit of awareness when your head pops out of your butt and you look at what's really important. | Men and women are not combatants....or they shouldn't be in the celebration of life. Embrace the differences, work with what you have to work with...then get naked and do a dance around the May pole until we are all wrapped up in little silk ribbons and ready to have some fun. | Okay serious side....go read the FWA 2009 Act that was legislated into law on January 2010 and now covers small business for the first time by definition, rewrites the book on employment practises and policy and even forms the new cornerstone for all enterprise agreements. I just helped someone I know quite well pull $250 round out of one of the biggest companies in Australia because they were not being treated fairly...and the reason was that they were speaking a bit of the truth about a market that has the ethics of Judas. You can sit around all day and whinge about "it's not fair" or jump up on the website and find out your right and how to fix it. | Sure, it took Parliment one hell of a long time to put enough pressure on the regulators to force a change in the SIS ACT...and the primary "breadwinner" or top earner in a family situation according to the definitions of the SIS Act can't stash $2 Gazillion in superannuation and walk in to family court and not bring that to the table. But...at least it's there. | This venue? Wrong time and wrong place....let's talk about sex. Yeah yeah yeah...some folks like a good "anger fuck" now and then but not when they are really angry inside. | That's it for me...my fingers are all covered in nice slippery popcorn butter and taste like salt. Surely there has to be someone left in the audience that is a perv like me and would rather lick my fingers that wag one at somebody when in the end...we are all just people and should enjoy each other's company and companionship in the few remaining hours that we have left on this very short journey. | Anybody got any wet towelettes? All these hot chicks that have burned their bras in the last day or so or accidently got too close the fire look like they could use a bit of wiping down... | ...then we can hose them if they agree.

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    Quoting 'Charles_Dickens' Quoting 'CapCoastCouple'Mr CCC and I have rather a traditional marriage...he goes to work and earns all the money, I stay at home and look after our child, and cook and clean and wash... It works for us. I can hardly expect him to work 12 hours a day for 7 days, and come home and do all of my 'duties' aswell (he works away).I think women feel the pressure of "Modern' roles because they are expected to fill all 'roles' and be 'perfect'. Women are stressed out and worn out. They are expected to work full time, as well as fill traditional roles, IMO, it just doesnt work. By doing what we are, we know where we stand, and what is expected of us. Sure, we cross over every now and then, and we support each other. I never wanted a 'career' I always wanted to be a housewife/ mother. And in the bedroom, he is the dominant one...we both win... I love it.... Why Thank you Sir

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    Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem' . Why the big mission though? I don't understaaaaand! I want to, I honestly do, but I don't. I'm not being facetious, or a smart arse, I don't require a condescending reply, I just seek to understand why. Please. Why not just appreciate that people are the sum of their experiences and the world a far more interesting place for the presence of neanderthals and narrow-minded people? . I'm sorry, I have to ask this. Are you for real? Seriously? Maybe I could ask you the same question. This is no major mission. It is not as if I have made an infomercial and screened it on television for all the beer swilling men sitting there giving orders to view. It is only a passing comment on an adult forum. l Why would anybody need to question why the rights of women is an important issue? Let alone another woman! Naturally I recognise that society is a better place for all the different personalities we have. Naturally I realise that we are all entitled to our own opinion and that is all I did. Express MY dismay that people would joke about something that is so very real for many, many women. l Others have done so as well but it appears as if it is my comments that you are singling out for direct attack. Why is this so? Why have you neglected to critisize others for the same viewpoint as myself? One couple suggested that I need to act like an adult if I wanted equality. The very same couple that get all bent out of shape ad pedantic whenever anal sex is mentioned. One person said no one had the right to tell him how to live his live. The very same person who actively condemns monogamy and is not backwards at coming forwards telling others that monogamy is unrealistic. l Yes lets all turn the clock back 50 years when the man really was the man and the woman was too bloody scared to leave incase he killed her. If you like the neandathal approach then by all means find yourself a beer swilling, knuckle dragging, hair pulling, arse slapping man and live the life.... l "Come on baby you can fill my pipe and then go fetch my slippers Cook me up some bacon and some beans Go out to the car, lift it up and change the tire, Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans. Sit here at my feet cause I like you when you are sweet And you know it aint feminine to fight" l But know that while you are looking for the callouses on the neandathals knuckles, I will be turning the hand over and checking for the callouses on the palms. I like to know that the man in my life is capable of doing an honest days work. l He will not need to cook in my kitchen...unless he wishes to (and I really prefer that he doesnt) He will not be using my tools (the last bastard who used my tools took them when he left and it has taken too long to replace them) Nor will he be required to mow the lawn or dig the garden as I enjoy doing that. He can man the whipper snipper and the chainsaw. l I am well and trully aware of the differences between men and women and do celebrate those differences. So many couples on here have said that they share the work load and I applaude that. A relationship is like two trees. They should grow side by side so they can reach thier full potential. If one is overshadowed by the other, it cannot grow tall and strong as it should, its growth remains stunted. l I am not a feminist, I am not into burning my bra. (God knows I need the bloody thing too much for that) But I will not sit quietly while women and men put down and belittle the amount of years and effort society has spent on trying to address the rights of women. We still have a long way to go and yet some of you try to make light of the fact that people have died so you can work...if you want to, so that you can say "NO" to your husband...if you want to, so you can vote, live alone and in fact do the hell what you want. As I stated before, my place in life....is firmly in the drivers seat. l l You ask me why? l Honestly I am flabergasted that you do ask!

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    I enjoyed reading the many views of this thread, each to their own i say, i love cooking, nothing wrong attending a BBQ or preparing a lovely sunday roast. These things should be shared as i also love chillin with a beer while my girl treats me to her fine cooking delights :) I also look after myself aswell, i mean a bloke who can also clean up and vacuum and do washing up and laundry must have alot of self respect and end up very desirable in most ladies eyes :) off to cook my own lovely steak and vege and do all dishes over a few beers

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    at what point have we ever been 'out of shape' at the mention of anal sex? its something we enjoy quite frequently, just not with strangers. we think you mistake us for one of your close-minded cronies........ffs

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