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Intellect versus Arrogance...
July 30 2011
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RHP User
14 years ago
I hope that doesn't offend anyone..mensian or not, that was funny - the list of pick up lines. Sheldon would be beside himself xx
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RHP User
14 years ago
Invite me to your next bacchanalian do Mal - I wanna see how you Mensian's party. Hell I'll even give the May pole a going over.. you paint such a rosy picture of the hedonistic life. But yes, point taken - definitely an uninhibited bunch.
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RHP User
14 years ago
It appears as if some have an issue with MENSA. Ummmm perhaps some have been refused membership at some stage as it seems a particular scab that is being picked at.
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RHP User
14 years ago
...hang it out there like that. please? | Quoting 'fionabee'It appears as if some have an issue with MENSA. Ummmm perhaps some have been refused membership at some stage as it seems a particular scab that is being picked at. | You and I both know the old joke about absolutely positively having to get that first damn question right? | I would probably fuck up and write "Chasing Midnight" in that box... | ...I hate those trick questions.
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RHP User
14 years ago
theres no issue with mensa..the issue is that a 'director' (state rep) of mensa has come here and indicated that he's better than us because hes a member of this body.........i must wonder, and should ask , how they feel about being represented here..............
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' | You and I both know the old joke about absolutely positively having to get that first damn question right? | I would probably fuck up and write "Chasing Midnight" in that box... |Actually this happens, but you might still make the cut. It is only a problem during the test if at least one person forgets to put thier name down & fails, AND another does the same & passes.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I would probably fuck up and write "Chasing Midnight" in that box... | ...I hate those trick questions. l l I absolutely refuse to believe that Mensa found you lacking in any way.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think I would always be just a little bit suspicious of any club that would have me for a member. | Quoting 'fionabee' I absolutely refuse to believe that Mensa found you lacking in any way. | That's not to say that we couldn't rally and form a schism...maybe call it Tensa? You know, where smart people hang out rolling around naked having fun...and in between shags make some folks around them very tense and tensa by the moment. No relief for the wicked or so they say. | Could just be a Variety of Experiences to be had there...gezzzz maybe even be Religious? Naaaa, not from me...I'm a devout Frisbeetarian already, my soul is just going to fly up on the roof and wait for the next big blast of wind. The hot air always seems to come from the north...think I will avoid that just in case. | All part of my plan for global domination...sshhh don't tell.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' It appears as if some have an issue with MENSA. Ummmm perhaps some have been refused membership at some stage as it seems a particular scab that is being picked at. don't have an issue with mensa, just people who think smartness is has anything to do with sex or sexual prowess. just saying personality is way more important in the bedroom and outside of it. iq has nothing to do with it, some smart people have fugly personalities, some dumb people have beautiful personalities. would rather an awesome personality than a lack of any personality.also just wanted to point out that smart people sometimes say extremely stupid things. refer to my page 2 post
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hey...they both could be me? | Quoting 'malmensa'Actually this happens, but you might still make the cut. It is only a problem during the test if at least one person forgets to put thier name down & fails, AND another does the same & passes. | I was born in the northern hemisphere and now live in the southern...that alone could put a different spin on things? I have always wanted to be the baseline quant for my own test...the part of me that excels at blatant mediocrity comes out looking pretty good.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' theres no issue with mensa..the issue is that a 'director' (state rep) of mensa has come here and indicated that he's better than us because hes a member of this body.........i must wonder, and should ask , how they feel about being represented here.............. so agree with your sentiment. in school i might have been in the advanced classes but does that make me better than anyone else? NO. so apparently i am smart, but i have done heaps of stupid things and said stupid things.just goes to prove my point that smart people do and say stupid things
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel'theres no issue with mensa..the issue is that a 'director' (state rep) of mensa has come here and indicated that he's better than us because hes a member of this body.........i must wonder, and should ask , how they feel about being represented here.............. Because of the actions of ONE you tar all with the same brush? l l Quoting 'burngeorgesbush' some smart people have fugly personalities, some dumb people have beautiful personalities. would rather an awesome personality than a lack of any personality. And the reverse can also be said. Some smart people have beautiful personalities and some not so smart people can be downright ugly insidealso just wanted to point out that smart people sometimes say extremely stupid things. refer to my page 2 postIs it not better to say something extremely stupid occassionally than say something extremely stupid all of the time? Being smart does not mean that you do not have the occassional blank (blonde / senior citizen ) moment. Being smart is not a gaurantee that every time you open your mouth a genuine pearl of wisdom will roll off the tongue. You are still very much human with human failings....just the same as the next dumb-arse.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'mikeandshel'theres no issue with mensa..the issue is that a 'director' (state rep) of mensa has come here and indicated that he's better than us because hes a member of this body.........i must wonder, and should ask , how they feel about being represented here.............. Because of the actions of ONE you tar all with the same brush? ljust exactly what "all" am i tarring? and where did this mysteriously appear?...........the guy claims he's a director of MENSA, whether this is true or not, doesnt really matter........its the fact that he comes here, waving his membership around like some placard of 'intelligence' and proceeds to insult everyone here by his sexist, elitist and downright divisive comments.....my question is whether his behavior here and the use of MENSA by name and reputation is entirely appropriate, and what they would answer if asked that same question......i for one am amazed by the guys arrogance and apparent grandiose sense of self worth.........
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel'theres no issue with mensa..the issue is that a 'director' (state rep) of mensa has come here and indicated that he's better than us because hes a member of this body.........i must wonder, and should ask , how they feel about being represented here.............. Quite obviously I represent myself only on these forums. I doubt any of the 1100 or so Mensans in Australia would get confused about this point, as you seem to be. I doubt many would even be interested in what I have to say here, however I suspect the overall response would be positive. Feel free to share this with other Mensans you may know, put it on Facebook or print everything out & nail it to a tree in your local park. I don’t think I said I am better than anyone, just because of Mensa membership; I merely expressed a preference for intelligent sexual partners, based on my own past experiences. It might not work the same way for you.
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' ljust exactly what "all" am i tarring? and where did this mysteriously appear?...........the guy claims he's a director of MENSA, whether this is true or not, doesnt really matter........its the fact that he comes here, waving his membership around like some placard of 'intelligence' and proceeds to insult everyone here by his sexist, elitist and downright divisive comments..... What did I say that you have perceived as "sexist"? Do you disagree that citing Mensa membership is valid as a "placard of intelligence", and where was I "waving it"? It seemed valid in the context of this thread to mention it. How have I "insulted everyone"? I suspect some of your thinking is a tad skewed.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'malmensa' Quoting 'mikeandshel'theres no issue with mensa..the issue is that a 'director' (state rep) of mensa has come here and indicated that he's better than us because hes a member of this body.........i must wonder, and should ask , how they feel about being represented here.............. Quite obviously I represent myself only on these forums. I doubt any of the 1100 or so Mensans in Australia would get confused about this point, as you seem to be. I doubt many would even be interested in what I have to say here, however I suspect the overall response would be positive. Feel free to share this with other Mensans you may know, put it on Facebook or print everything out & nail it to a tree in your local park. I don’t think I said I am better than anyone, just because of Mensa membership; I merely expressed a preference for intelligent sexual partners, based on my own past experiences. It might not work the same way for you. if you represent you...then why the mensa tag on your name? if not for show, then whats the point of it? and yes...you come across as both arrogant and ignorant...in spite of your claims otherwise.....as for intelligent partners? absolutely, but with out the arrogance and narcissism.....you are no better lover than someone with an IQ of 75. its just that you managed to do a few quizzes in the way the quiz designer was looking for....
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
I just stumbled back on some ammusing "Research" I did a few years back on the USA Mensa forums. Lacks any pretence of academic rigour, but interesting anyway. I posed the following question, and included a poll: Sexuality, Intellect, & a bizarre hypothetical & poll. Imagine you had a one night stand with a stranger who you had no language in common with. This person has an IQ measured at either 90, 120 or 150. Would you be able to tell? Assume it’s a 12 hour night, normal lighting (at least some of the time), no paper or other way of communicating in written symbols, no computers etc. Basically communicating with just touch, intonation, facial expression etc. This was a scenario mooted at a local Mensa bar meet. Opinion was divided, some claimed the difference would be immediately obvious, other thought there would be no way of telling, sans speech. Results were: Yep!, would be blatently obvious. (33.3%) Probably be able to make a fairly accurate guess. (37.5%) Nope!, no way of telling. (8.3%) Would pick 90 v 120, but not 120 v 150 (16.7%) Would pick 120 v 150, but not 90 v 120 (4.2%) The comments were interesting, some claimed it was an overly contrived & unlikly scenario, while others said they had 'been there done that" It seems that Mensans at least tend to think there is a fairly obvious differance. Of course this has noy been tried (some real-world testing was suggested), and it may be that smart people can discern dumb people better than dumb people can spot smart. Though I would share it out of interest anyway, make of it what you will.
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RHP User
14 years ago
What Makes 100%?What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%? We have all been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100%.How about achieving 103%?What makes up 100% in life? Here's a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these questions: If: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Is represented as: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26. Then: H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K 8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98% And K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E 11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96% But , A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E 1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100% And, B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T 2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103% AND, look how far ass kissing will take you. A-R-S-E-K-I-S-S-I-N-G 1+18+19+5+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 121% So, one can conclude with mathematical certainty, that while Hard work and Knowledge will get you close, andAttitude will get you there, its the Bullshit and Arse Kissing that will put you over the top. Now you know why some people are where they are!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Wait.... That's so easy it's like a trick question or something! In this little scenario the one who brings a dry towel is the smart one.HugsStalky Quoting 'malmensa' I just stumbled back on some ammusing "Research" I did a few years back on the USA Mensa forums. Lacks any pretence of academic rigour, but interesting anyway. I posed the following question, and included a poll: Sexuality, Intellect, & a bizarre hypothetical & poll. Imagine you had a one night stand with a stranger who you had no language in common with. This person has an IQ measured at either 90, 120 or 150. Would you be able to tell? Assume it’s a 12 hour night, normal lighting (at least some of the time), no paper or other way of communicating in written symbols, no computers etc. Basically communicating with just touch, intonation, facial expression etc. This was a scenario mooted at a local Mensa bar meet. Opinion was divided, some claimed the difference would be immediately obvious, other thought there would be no way of telling, sans speech. Results were: Yep!, would be blatently obvious. (33.3%) Probably be able to make a fairly accurate guess. (37.5%) Nope!, no way of telling. (8.3%) Would pick 90 v 120, but not 120 v 150 (16.7%) Would pick 120 v 150, but not 90 v 120 (4.2%) The comments were interesting, some claimed it was an overly contrived & unlikly scenario, while others said they had 'been there done that" It seems that Mensans at least tend to think there is a fairly obvious differance. Of course this has noy been tried (some real-world testing was suggested), and it may be that smart people can discern dumb people better than dumb people can spot smart. Though I would share it out of interest anyway, make of it what you will.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I like to think I give lots of opportunity for you to reach your full potential Stalkers..... So give it your best 121%. xx Meeka
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RHP User
14 years ago
I like to think I give lots of opportunity for you to reach your full potential Stalkers..... So give it your best 121%. xx Meeka
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RHP User
14 years ago
...R+E+C+T+A+L+P+R+O+B+E come out to on the formula? Stalky, beware of a certain short woman that seems to have you in the radar. | ...run, don't walk. It's better than crawling away. | Random thought generated by observation...I just wish she could plug one other hole here too.
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RHP User
14 years ago
MMMMMM we on to this Guy , he not from Mensa , he comes from a competing group. ( that want dumb people to send then money ) He just here to act like a fool to damage Mensa (-: I think you done effort damage to Mensa now you can stop lol , No write more we think it so dam ammusing. mmm just like you do mmm lol O we love the part in your profile , no i wiiln,t tell you , you might change it. Quoting 'malmensa' I just stumbled back on some ammusing "Research" I did a few years back on the USA Mensa forums. Lacks any pretence of academic rigour, but interesting anyway. I posed the following question, and included a poll: Sexuality, Intellect, & a bizarre hypothetical & poll. Imagine you had a one night stand with a stranger who you had no language in common with. This person has an IQ measured at either 90, 120 or 150. Would you be able to tell? Assume it’s a 12 hour night, normal lighting (at least some of the time), no paper or other way of communicating in written symbols, no computers etc. Basically communicating with just touch, intonation, facial expression etc. This was a scenario mooted at a local Mensa bar meet. Opinion was divided, some claimed the difference would be immediately obvious, other thought there would be no way of telling, sans speech. Results were: Yep!, would be blatently obvious. (33.3%) Probably be able to make a fairly accurate guess. (37.5%) Nope!, no way of telling. (8.3%) Would pick 90 v 120, but not 120 v 150 (16.7%) Would pick 120 v 150, but not 90 v 120 (4.2%) The comments were interesting, some claimed it was an overly contrived & unlikly scenario, while others said they had 'been there done that" It seems that Mensans at least tend to think there is a fairly obvious differance. Of course this has noy been tried (some real-world testing was suggested), and it may be that smart people can discern dumb people better than dumb people can spot smart. Though I would share it out of interest anyway, make of it what you will.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'malmensa' I just stumbled back on some ammusing "Research" I did a few years back on the USA Mensa forums. Lacks any pretence of academic rigour, but interesting anyway. I posed the following question, and included a poll: Sexuality, Intellect, & a bizarre hypothetical & poll. Imagine you had a one night stand with a stranger who you had no language in common with. This person has an IQ measured at either 90, 120 or 150. Would you be able to tell? Assume it’s a 12 hour night, normal lighting (at least some of the time), no paper or other way of communicating in written symbols, no computers etc. Basically communicating with just touch, intonation, facial expression etc. This was a scenario mooted at a local Mensa bar meet. Opinion was divided, some claimed the difference would be immediately obvious, other thought there would be no way of telling, sans speech. Results were: Yep!, would be blatently obvious. (33.3%) Probably be able to make a fairly accurate guess. (37.5%) Nope!, no way of telling. (8.3%) What did the other 20.9% respond with? Would pick 90 v 120, but not 120 v 150 (16.7%) Would pick 120 v 150, but not 90 v 120 (4.2%) A statistician would roll on the floor laughing at that. You’re posing two questions in each statement – no wonder the numbers are so low. Surely you didn’t present it that way in the poll? If not and you concatenated the results, you stripped virtually all of the meaning out of the answers. If you did present it that way.... wow! Just out of interest, how big was your sample size? It seems that Mensans at least tend to think there is a fairly obvious differance. Of course this has noy been tried (some real-world testing was suggested), and it may be that smart people can discern dumb people better than dumb people can spot smart. Though I would share it out of interest anyway, make of it what you will. Ah, so we break down into smart people who are Mensans and the dumb people, comprised of the rest of us? This discussion is getting interesting! Despite your claims to speak only for yourself, your posting leads me to believe that Mensa equals arrogance, not intelligence. I suppose that’s not so surprising – exclusive groups are often formed to foster a sense of superiority. Real-world testing? Would that involve asking some of us dumb-arses what we think? Surely nothing of interest could come of that?
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RHP User
14 years ago
I got 25 out of 33 in one of those tests and it says I'm smart! Phew now I can sleep easy, well I could have but now my brain really hurts!!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
i think on this topic the answer is KISS keep it simple sweetheart everyone is entitle to their own opinion, yet repect for others and their way of life who are you to judge .. each to their own and respect others respect goes along way
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RHP User
14 years ago
Mal, why does my card have 5002 on it then? Is that 1100 members in Aus or just WA? Either way the numbers aren't looking good, especially since I guess you have to at least half that number unless you're bisexual. Oh well, quality over quantity. Maybe I should become an active member and go to an event now that I've heard we do ok in the sack :p
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
1100 is Australia wide. Membership numbers are assigned sequentially, and not reused. From what I remember, Mensa Australia has been running since the 60's, current new membership card numbers are somewhere around 6400. Often members join, pay for just one year & are totally inactive. I don't know why, probably some sort of status thing. Membership number 5002 does not show on my database of current or recently expired members, so I guess you have been unfinancial for a while, gave a false number, or are listed with another state. You are correct about low numbers being a problem. The AGM in Canberra early in Nov will probably see 100 or so people; chances of getting laid there are quite good. (If you attend, ask me to introduce you to the nude mountain climber) If you go to one of the USA AGMs there will be about 2000 attendees and you would have to make an effort to avoid getting laid at least a few times. They are a lot of fun. :)
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
1100 is Australia wide. Membership numbers are assigned sequentially, and not reused. From what I remember, Mensa Australia has been running since the 60's, current new membership card numbers are somewhere around 6400. Often members join, pay for just one year & are totally inactive. I don't know why, probably some sort of status thing. Membership number 5002 does not show on my database of current or recently expired members, so I guess you have been unfinancial for a while, gave a false number, or are listed with another state. You are correct about low numbers being a problem. The AGM in Canberra early in Nov will probably see 100 or so people; chances of getting laid there are quite good. (If you attend, ask me to introduce you to the nude mountain climber) If you go to one of the USA AGMs there will be about 2000 attendees and you would have to make an effort to avoid getting laid at least a few times. They are a lot of fun. :)
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RHP User
14 years ago
The Washington Post's Mensa Invitational once again asked readers to take any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting, or changing one letter, and supply a new definition. Here are this year's winners: 1. Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with. 2. Reintarnation: Coming back to life as a hillbilly (my favorite) 3. Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future. (though this is good too) 4. Foreploy: Any misrepresentation about yourself for the purpose of getting laid. 5. Cashtration (n.): The act of buying a house, which renders the subject financially impotent for an indefinite period. 6. Giraffiti: Vandalism spray-painted very, very high. 7. Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it. 8. Inoculatte: To take coffee intravenously when you are running late. 9. Hipatitis: Terminal coolness. (this also rocks) 10. Osteopornosis: A degenerate disease. (This one got extra credit.) 11. Karmageddon: It's like, when everybody is sending off all these really bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it's like, a serious bummer. 12. Decafalon (n.): The grueling event of getting through the day consuming only things that are good for you. 13. Glibido: All talk and no action. 14. Dopeler effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly. 15. Arachnoleptic fit (n.): The frantic dance performed just after you've accidentally walked through a spider web. 16. Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out. 17. Caterpallor (n.): The color you turn after finding half a worm in the fruit you're eating. And the pick of the literature: (This one, too, was our very favorite. As have others in life, seems that we've encountered an inordinate amount of these "types"!!) :~) 18. Ignoranus: A person who's both stupid and an asshole.
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RHP User
14 years ago
20,000,000 people in Australia give or take.... Mensa take the top 2% of humans that conform to their testing... So 2% of 20m is 400,000, so there are on average 400,000 possible Mensans within Australia, give or take... 1100 membership nationally is very poor, 6400 since the 60's is poor again. Does it not seem that the other 398,900 intellectuals in this country are dumb or smart not being members? Since they are only representated by the 1100 in MENSA (0.27% representation), I believe this to be a bad representation of intellect? It seems that some here are offended because they may be a part of this 398,900, yet not members of Mensa, but still have valid points and arguements. Mensa is a box, it seems arrogance may be it's prime recruiter otherwise why would people like to show off their intelligence rather than share it? The "dumb" person can have enough emotional intelligence and passion within to perform to sexual heights as any intellect. An why, oh why would you restrict your sexual partner sample to the other 1099 Mensans out there? Very narrow viewpoint and limited sample when there are 398,900 people out there just as smart, if not smarter? I can understand gene pooling for procreation, but we are talking an animal instinct here, not rocket science! If 33% of Mensans believe they can tell who is smart and who is not, stop screwing each other and go test the hypothesis to find the other 398,900! I can poll a select group too and show favourable results, the doing/proving is the key to unlocking the truth.
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RHP User
14 years ago
You made some very good points Snowshoe, I glade i not the only one that see this guy as total bs , i was open minded about Mensa , But ever one i talk to from Mensa is just dumb ??? I might not agree with you on all yours posts , but I can see your point of view & they are well thought out. As for mr Mensa , he close to being retarded ( sorry don,t mean to be rude but i don,t know another word to use , O i get it sorry he not retarted he Mensa) what he write make no sense . mmmmmm lol looks like you to smart because he did not reply to your post snowy lol.But i could be wrong ???? So Mr Mensa , can you explain your post again , from here it just looks like ramblings like all your postsQuoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'malmensa' I just stumbled back on some ammusing "Research" I did a few years back on the USA Mensa forums. Lacks any pretence of academic rigour, but interesting anyway. I posed the following question, and included a poll: Sexuality, Intellect, & a bizarre hypothetical & poll. Imagine you had a one night stand with a stranger who you had no language in common with. This person has an IQ measured at either 90, 120 or 150. Would you be able to tell? Assume it’s a 12 hour night, normal lighting (at least some of the time), no paper or other way of communicating in written symbols, no computers etc. Basically communicating with just touch, intonation, facial expression etc. This was a scenario mooted at a local Mensa bar meet. Opinion was divided, some claimed the difference would be immediately obvious, other thought there would be no way of telling, sans speech. Results were: Yep!, would be blatently obvious. (33.3%) Probably be able to make a fairly accurate guess. (37.5%) Nope!, no way of telling. (8.3%) What did the other 20.9% respond with? Would pick 90 v 120, but not 120 v 150 (16.7%) Would pick 120 v 150, but not 90 v 120 (4.2%) A statistician would roll on the floor laughing at that. You’re posing two questions in each statement – no wonder the numbers are so low. Surely you didn’t present it that way in the poll? If not and you concatenated the results, you stripped virtually all of the meaning out of the answers. If you did present it that way.... wow! Just out of interest, how big was your sample size? It seems that Mensans at least tend to think there is a fairly obvious differance. Of course this has noy been tried (some real-world testing was suggested), and it may be that smart people can discern dumb people better than dumb people can spot smart. Though I would share it out of interest anyway, make of it what you will. Ah, so we break down into smart people who are Mensans and the dumb people, comprised of the rest of us? This discussion is getting interesting! Despite your claims to speak only for yourself, your posting leads me to believe that Mensa equals arrogance, not intelligence. I suppose that’s not so surprising – exclusive groups are often formed to foster a sense of superiority. Real-world testing? Would that involve asking some of us dumb-arses what we think? Surely nothing of interest could come of that?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Wow, intelligent, arrogant and able to insult all in the one breath..ladies and gentleman - we have a trifecta.
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RHP User
14 years ago
oh that God preachers comment made me laugh Oh look there is theEaster Bunny laying a chocolate egg.. and he is talking to Santa fuck me lat was a good one
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RHP User
14 years ago
Is it really that complicated ? A lot of it seems to be self inferiority or superiority complex. We often tend to agree or disagree with other peoples' opinions to self identify and to be. I heard the Intelligent were extinct lol ( That included me : )
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RHP User
14 years ago
Some of the most intellectual are often the most arrogant!.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I've getting my Zen on this summer."We are always debating one thing or another, but does what we say really mean anything? Maybe it would be better to say nothing and continue merrily on our way"HugsStalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
Someone has a difference of opinion and the rest of the masses attack. Well Malmensa, I am with you on this one. I would rather have an intelligent conversation than just a dumb fuck with the occassional neanderthal grunt. We are all intelligent people and there is no way I will be having sex with someone of an IQ of 75 anytime soon as this is in the mentally impaired category and I am so sorry but those with Downes Syndrome or something similar are off my wish list this year. One or two of you have met a few of Mensa members and are rabbiting on like they are all the same. When you have personally met each and every single member then you can make the assumption that all mensa members are arrogant and ignorant. There are people on this forum that I have a dislike for but I do not assume that I will automatically dislike ALL people on this forum. Mensa is an elitist group? If I want to join a motorcycle club but get turned down because I have no motorbike is that eletist? If I want to play rugby union with the boys but I cannot...is that eletist? What about the CWA? Are they eletist for not including men? All groups, clubs and associations have specific membership requirements, that does not make them elitist. So they make a word game out of the English language. This is a game that I have used on school students. I personally think it is very clever and certainly makes the old grey matter work a little harder. What is scrabble if not a word game? The OP asked...and I quote: l "Always seemed to me that people of real 'intelligence' were open minded, and able to critically analyse others opinions ,free of bias and preconception " l Oh yes Crack up, obviously there are very few of those answering this particular topic l " (oh yes, and free of becoming attacking, defensive and villifying) - willing to take accept arguments that challenged their own thinking, break it down, internalise it, and from there, further crystalise their understanding of others, themselves and the world. We can all learn from each other, even if it's just to politely agree to disagree .. if we allow ourselves to."ll l I still think I will go for an intelligent person. At least one with enough intelligence to get the job done in a satifactory way. If you go to a first meeting and the person is just a dumb schmuk are you all still gonna continue on with the encounter just taking his / her word that they are good in bed? I think not. Now excuse me there is a thugby match on in the local park. I might wander down and grunt at a few of the neanderthals scraping thier knuckles on the ground.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'nameisinuse'Some of the most intellectual are often the most arrogant!. which is almost what i said.....i think tho that those who fool themselves into believing thay are 'intellectuals' and therefore something 'superior' are the worst offenders..... 'pretenders' are often fakes, and try harder to hide the lie they build around themselves....by being 'arrogant' and rude. challenge them and they invariably fall apart, debate with them and it quickly becomes an argument.the tactics they use are very 'revealing' and almost a signpost to their stupidity..........
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14 years ago
You seem to miss every point , people were making about Mensa , You should join Mensa , with rambles like this , you be director in no time ,(-: Most people that read the form , know why you like mensa Is because your love hate thing with mikeandshel even thing they say , you against ,come on cute one you know i,m right (-: May the force of Mense be with you (-: lolP;S dad this is not about you . hey maybe you two should join mensa as well. Quoting 'fionabee' Someone has a difference of opinion and the rest of the masses attack. Well Malmensa, I am with you on this one. I would rather have an intelligent conversation than just a dumb fuck with the occassional neanderthal grunt. We are all intelligent people and there is no way I will be having sex with someone of an IQ of 75 anytime soon as this is in the mentally impaired category and I am so sorry but those with Downes Syndrome or something similar are off my wish list this year. One or two of you have met a few of Mensa members and are rabbiting on like they are all the same. When you have personally met each and every single member then you can make the assumption that all mensa members are arrogant and ignorant. There are people on this forum that I have a dislike for but I do not assume that I will automatically dislike ALL people on this forum. Mensa is an elitist group? If I want to join a motorcycle club but get turned down because I have no motorbike is that eletist? If I want to play rugby union with the boys but I cannot...is that eletist? What about the CWA? Are they eletist for not including men? All groups, clubs and associations have specific membership requirements, that does not make them elitist. So they make a word game out of the English language. This is a game that I have used on school students. I personally think it is very clever and certainly makes the old grey matter work a little harder. What is scrabble if not a word game? The OP asked...and I quote: l "Always seemed to me that people of real 'intelligence' were open minded, and able to critically analyse others opinions ,free of bias and preconception " l Oh yes Crack up, obviously there are very few of those answering this particular topic l " (oh yes, and free of becoming attacking, defensive and villifying) - willing to take accept arguments that challenged their own thinking, break it down, internalise it, and from there, further crystalise their understanding of others, themselves and the world. We can all learn from each other, even if it's just to politely agree to disagree .. if we allow ourselves to."ll l I still think I will go for an intelligent person. At least one with enough intelligence to get the job done in a satifactory way. If you go to a first meeting and the person is just a dumb schmuk are you all still gonna continue on with the encounter just taking his / her word that they are good in bed? I think not. Now excuse me there is a thugby match on in the local park. I might wander down and grunt at a few of the neanderthals scraping thier knuckles on the ground.
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." — Isaac Asimov
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14 years ago
Quoting 'malmensa' "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." — Isaac Asimov you are so far off base its ridiculous.....we arent 'anti intellectual'...............matter of fact, I'm a headcase...study has been what i have done to while away the hours of boredom.........i'm all for learning and knowledge...... just not big on wankers is all......you single yourself out for special treatement with your arrogant use of MENSA in your nickname..... “To knock a thing down, especially if it is cocked at an arrogant angle, is a deep delight of the blood." ------George Santayana
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14 years ago
Quoting 'Hotsexycouple88' You seem to miss every point , people were making about Mensa , You should join Mensa , with rambles like this , you be director in no time ,(-: Most people that read the form , know why you like mensa Is because your love hate thing with mikeandshel even thing they say , you against ,come on cute one you know i,m right (-: May the force of Mense be with you (-: lolYou seem to be missing the whole point about the forums. This topic is not about mensa is it? Let me see....what was the question again? D'uh!!!!
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14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee'Mensa is an elitist group? If I want to join a motorcycle club but get turned down because I have no motorbike is that eletist? If I want to play rugby union with the boys but I cannot...is that eletist? What about the CWA? Are they eletist for not including men? All groups, clubs and associations have specific membership requirements, that does not make them elitist. So they make a word game out of the English language. This is a game that I have used on school students. I personally think it is very clever and certainly makes the old grey matter work a little harder. What is scrabble if not a word game?As a Scrabble player, I'm assuming you have a dictionary. I referred to Dictionary.com, which provided me with the following definition of elitist:(of a person or class of persons) considered superior by others or by themselves, as in intellect, talent, power, wealth, or position in societyMensa is a group of people who are considered superior in intellect by others or by themselves - it's the epitome of a elitist organisation. It's not a word game - it's a fact of the English language.You also wrote:One or two of you have met a few of Mensa members and are rabbiting on like they are all the same. When you have personally met each and every single member then you can make the assumption that all mensa members are arrogant and ignorant.and then followed it up with:If you go to a first meeting and the person is just a dumb schmuk are you all still gonna continue on with the encounter just taking his / her word that they are good in bed? I think not. Now excuse me there is a thugby match on in the local park. I might wander down and grunt at a few of the neanderthals scraping thier knuckles on the ground.So it's just unconscionable to judge a group of smart people, but it's fine to stereotype rugby players? Get off your high horse. Some of those "dumb schmucks" that you couldn't even consider finishing a meet with (let alone having sex with) might not only be good in bed, they may also be nice, genuine, caring, honest people. You seriously let yourself down with that post.
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14 years ago
.....the rugby players i know (and played with at Uni) have some pretty scary professional qualifications between them, ranging from school teacher (headmaster) to surgeon and even retired Judge and Chief Superintendent in the Qld Police Force......and a very diverse selection in between............I wonder how many of them would be impressed at being called 'neanderthals scraping their knuckles on the ground'...........I know I'm not...........its an offensive and arrogant remark.............
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel'.....the rugby players i know (and played with at Uni) have some pretty scary professional qualifications between them, Why am I not surprised that you characterise advanced educational aceivement as "pretty scary"?
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14 years ago
Quoting 'malmensa' Quoting 'mikeandshel'.....the rugby players i know (and played with at Uni) have some pretty scary professional qualifications between them, Why am I not surprised that you characterise advanced educational aceivement as "pretty scary"? See Fiona's post about word games.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'malmensa' Quoting 'mikeandshel'.....the rugby players i know (and played with at Uni) have some pretty scary professional qualifications between them, Why am I not surprised that you characterise advanced educational aceivement as "pretty scary"? See Fiona's post about word games. oh pooh....and here i was thinking he was serious lol.....
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14 years ago
Hi all, Tis funny how intelligence brings out our emotional side, albeit in different ways and our limited thinking becomes all the more limited. Arrogance is an emotional response from the perceiver. Intellects often justify by "intellectually" proving their point, that is just the way it is... look at scientists! They make assumption, then set out to prove it, albeit in a logical and non-emotional way. People are successful, not always intelligent. People are intelligent and not always successful. I think the link between intelligence and arrogance is clear and the point of the forum is made. It is time for us all to open our minds once again to not judge, but discuss such an intersting topic. Is that arrogant? Your choice. Casper
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14 years ago
I played Union myself for many years. I know a lot of professional rubgy players including those at international standards. Obviosuly Snowshoe, you need to understand tongue in cheek as does Mikeandshel. There was absolutely nothing insulting or arrogant about my comment at all and if you were insulted Mikeandshel, maybe I hit a little to close for comfort and the thugbyplayers I know would be able to see the humour in a comment such as that. They would take it in the sense that it was intended. l I do know what Mensa is yes and surely they have every right to begin an organisation based on intellect? Why should one person be put down in such a scathing manner just because they have the intellect and the desire to join such an organisation? People like to mix with others that are on a same or comparable standard as themselves. Certainly not many of us actually enjoy explaining our every comment to another. It is far more pleasant in a social setting if we are at least on the same page and can understand one another. l I was not comparing Mensa to a word game Snowshoe but more the game they played which Mikeandshell pointed out for us all. See above. THAT IS A GAME LIKE SCRABBLE!!!!! One I play with students and one which I consider very clever. It gets the old grey matter moving. Clearly a few who are now making such a brouhaha over sweet f.a. could do with thier brain matter awakening up just a touch as they cannot even be bothered to read a comment correctly before going off half cocked.....as usual! l Personally I do not find any Uni qualification pretty scary. Some are impressive...not the qualificaton itself but the sheer amount of effort that goes into getting them. l I am not on any high horse at all. Why would I want to continue with a person that I have absolutely no interest in? One that cannot even converse intelligently with me JUST BECAUSE they may, on the off chance be good in bed? Not gonna happen. Tell me Snowshoe? Would you continue to meet someone after it becomes apparent at first meeting that you have absolutely no common ground? But wait, they may be nice, genuine, caring people. By the way...Nowhere did I mention that I would get up and walk out of a meeting. I never have done that and I doubt if I ever will. I would merely draw the meeting to an early conclusion, as would most of us. No I am not interested in a dumb Schmuk. I want to be able to converse...before, during and after. And if that means I am elitist or a snob, arrogant or sitting on a high horse. Fine. All is good. At least I know I wont be searching for something to discuss with someone who is about as intelligent as a wet sock....just because they might be good in bed or a genuine, nice and caring person. Mike freely admits that he does not like overweight women or those that are hairy down below but this is a personal preference. Well my personal preference is for someone with at least the same intelligence level as myself. But that is arrogant and elitist?
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14 years ago
not a club i want to belong to.....lol mensa, the feminine for "menso", an adjective in Mexican Spanish that means "foolish" or "stupid" fits it to a 'tee' i think........LOL..
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14 years ago
intellect...............refers to a humans ability to fucnction outside of instinct. examples include art, music,emotion and worship (intellect should NOT be confused with intelligence) arrogance...............the assumption that ones self-worth is far superior to others. a false sense of pride. foolishly believing that everyone is inferior to you,looks up to you, and should bow down to your graces.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee'Obviosuly Snowshoe, you need to understand tongue in cheek as does Mikeandshel.Almost without exception, I find that when I get accused of not having the appropriate sense of humour or having taken something out of context, it's just misdirection to excuse a poorly made position. Also, please don't conflate my comments with your ongoing altercations with Mikeandshel - I'm not involved with that situation and have no intention of being drawn in.I do know what Mensa is yes and surely they have every right to begin an organisation based on intellect? Why should one person be put down in such a scathing manner just because they have the intellect and the desire to join such an organisation? People like to mix with others that are on a same or comparable standard as themselves.Yes, they have every right to start an elitist organisation and no, nobody should be made to feel bad because of their intellect. Nobody at all.I was not comparing Mensa to a word game Snowshoe but more the game they played which Mikeandshell pointed out for us all. See above.Ah, my apologies. The juxtaposition with your comments about elitism lead me to incorrectly conclude that you were referring to them. No offence intended.I am not on any high horse at all. Why would I want to continue with a person that I have absolutely no interest in?So no matter how intriguing, handsome, wealthy, interesting or funny, if he doesn't measure up intellectually, you have no interest in him? That sounds more like a job interview than a meeting.By the way...Nowhere did I mention that I would get up and walk out of a meeting. I never have done that and I doubt if I ever will. I would merely draw the meeting to an early conclusion, as would most of us.I didn't say you'd walk out, I said that you "couldn't even consider finishing a meet", which sounds a lot like what you said above. Either way, it amounts to pretty much the same thing - drawing it to an early conclusion is just a more polite term for the same action.Well my personal preference is for someone with at least the same intelligence level as myself. But that is arrogant and elitist?Yes. Arrogant for repeatedly referring to those you regard as having a lower intellect as "dumb schmucks" and elitist because... it's not a dirty term.PS - I'm rarely one to point out typographical errors, but the irony of misspelling "schmuck" every time you've used it has lead me to break my rule.
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' intellect...............refers to a humans ability to fucnction outside of instinct. examples include art, music,emotion and worship (intellect should NOT be confused with intelligence) I assume this is your own definition, rather than a cut/paste. (judging by the preponderance of grammatical & spelling errors). Why do you include “worship” as a dimension to your definition? I & others have alluded to the concept of intellect & religion being antithetical, you are a proponent of an alternate view?
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14 years ago
For me to find someone was intriguing, handsome, wealthy, interesting and funny then obviously thier intelligence would, at the very least, match mine and they would not be a dumb schmuk now would they? A job interview? Not likely...more like a touch of common sense when you get off YOUR high horse and think about it.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' intellect...............refers to a humans ability to fucnction outside of instinct. examples include art, music,emotion and worship (intellect should NOT be confused with intelligence) arrogance...............the assumption that ones self-worth is far superior to others. a false sense of pride. foolishly believing that everyone is inferior to you,looks up to you, and should bow down to your graces. Please use an English dictionary as that is the language we speak. l Arrogant....having an exaggerated opinion of one's own importance or ability. arrogare to claim as one's own> Arrogance n l Intellect n the ability to understand, think and reason intellectus comprehension> l Collins English Dictionary
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14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'mikeandshel' intellect...............refers to a humans ability to fucnction outside of instinct. examples include art, music,emotion and worship (intellect should NOT be confused with intelligence) arrogance...............the assumption that ones self-worth is far superior to others. a false sense of pride. foolishly believing that everyone is inferior to you,looks up to you, and should bow down to your graces. Please use an English dictionary as that is the language we speak. l Arrogant....having an exaggerated opinion of one's own importance or ability. Arrogance n l Intellect n the ability to understand, think and reason l Collins English Dictionary arrogance......pride,haughtiness,disdain,effrontery,contemptuousness, insolence,discourtesy,hauteur,loftiness,lordliness,contumely,assumption, supersciliousness,assurance,self-assertion,self-conceit (none of these are attractive character traits...mater of fact they all seem to be flaws) you can claim these for yourself if you like, go right ahead. intellect............brains,understanding,mind,sense,intelligence,reason.(is what i said before...........basically what seperates most of us from instinct driven animals) if you can reason and problem solve, you possess an intellect, the suggestion is now that apes and crows possess intellect as they learn and problem solve, and share the knowledge they acquire.....it really means nothing. Nuttall English Dictionary arrogant....haughty, paughty,insolent,lofty,high,mighty, swollen,vain-glorious,supercilious,disdainful, bumptious,imperious intellect.....mind, understanding,reason,thinking principle,cogitative faculties,consciousness,apperception,judgement,wits...........etc and et al. Rogets Thesaurus intellect isnt about being learned, its about the ability to learn or to do things in spite of what instinct might drive you to . anyone of us here can consider themselves a possessor of an 'intellect', if theyve learned one thing and problem solved one time as a result of that learning. arrogance on the other hand is quite obviously a character trait/flaw that intelligent persons would never admit to possess, or would they? dont 'pretend' to instruct me in the intricasies of our Queens English, it wont rub. its only arrogance that leads you to the assumption that you are superior in any way to myself. sorry to say, but in this you would be very very mistaken indeed.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' For me to find someone was intriguing, handsome, wealthy, interesting and funny then obviously thier intelligence would, at the very least, match mine and they would not be a dumb schmuk now would they? A job interview? Not likely...more like a touch of common sense when you get off YOUR high horse and think about it. David Beckham probably possesses all of the above characteristics, but by all accounts he's as dumb as a post. Still, you hang out with rugby players, not soccer players, right?
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14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' For me to find someone was intriguing, handsome, wealthy, interesting and funny then obviously thier intelligence would, at the very least, match mine and they would not be a dumb schmuk now would they? A job interview? Not likely...more like a touch of common sense when you get off YOUR high horse and think about it. SCHMUCK..........a jewish or yiddish word that means 'penis' or 'snake'...........use English words will you? its the language we speak.
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14 years ago
Some peeps have made, some valid points and it's their point of view. As i see it all have the freedom of speech.Some can convey their thoughts in print, while some like me maybe.not as good..I might not be the sharpest tool in the shedto some..lol....High intelligence or lack of..doesn't mean a thing..it doesn't make a person!!!! a human being!!!Free thinkers /dreamers..were once lauded..it was the idea of these ones couple with the ' intelligence of others..that we have in use of the many things we use today.It's what is in the heart of man..that is important and what makes them.. Knowledge is power...as stalky mentioned about carbon tax...in the ad for it i know for a fact..that some of the sights they show, is in other countries..some of which has been gone out of operation many years before it became an so called issuecoal was once a living thing...Albert E could brush his own hair..SO .all i can say is..i rather be open minded..let peeps have their say..and accept.their thoughts..by respecting them. cuz at the end of the day...im not here to change peeps views...but to discover what they think..heymumma
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14 years ago
mmmmm I just read a post of you bashing all guys on here . then you write this lol mmmmm not for me to point out to people you could be a bitter person & a bit unstable i just cut & paste from you own profile down below Im soo over the bull shit. NOT INTO CAM,As for One Ofs have the balls/ honesty to be upfront so then i'm given the choice.As normally i don't roll that way.I'm not desperate nor needy as for sex i can get that anytime, I value and treasure my friends.Not into false flattery or being told what you think i like to hear just to get into my lacy G's or my massive lingerie draw....lol I'm taking things at my own pace, i will not tolerate pushiness or little boy tantrums if a guy can't get his own way.as i'm over being STUFFED around and used.I'm NOT into cam with guys.so don't ask.Not into sex chat..GO pay a hooker or sex hot line...lol..Therefore i wont be treated like one ..If this sounds like WTF..too bad..I've got 2 teens at home who are my first consideration...IM NOT LOOKING FOR A HUSBAND...Quoting 'heymumma' Some peeps have made, some valid points and it's their point of view. As i see it all have the freedom of speech.Some can convey their thoughts in print, while some like me maybe.not as good..I might not be the sharpest tool in the shedto some..lol....High intelligence or lack of..doesn't mean a thing..it doesn't make a person!!!! a human being!!!Free thinkers /dreamers..were once lauded..it was the idea of these ones couple with the ' intelligence of others..that we have in use of the many things we use today.It's what is in the heart of man..that is important and what makes them.. Knowledge is power...as stalky mentioned about carbon tax...in the ad for it i know for a fact..that some of the sights they show, is in other countries..some of which has been gone out of operation many years before it became an so called issuecoal was once a living thing...Albert E could brush his own hair..SO .all i can say is..i rather be open minded..let peeps have their say..and accept.their thoughts..by respecting them. cuz at the end of the day...im not here to change peeps views...but to discover what they think..heymumma
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14 years ago
I think Mikeandshel wining this one Fiona , but this was always going to be hard to win , Mensa is a joke . try to google , what have Mensa done nothing comes up , but people making fun of it . Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'fionabee' For me to find someone was intriguing, handsome, wealthy, interesting and funny then obviously thier intelligence would, at the very least, match mine and they would not be a dumb schmuk now would they? A job interview? Not likely...more like a touch of common sense when you get off YOUR high horse and think about it. SCHMUCK..........a jewish or yiddish word that means 'penis' or 'snake'...........use English words will you? its the language we speak.
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14 years ago
I hate to say this but I really do not find Beckham attractive in any way, shape or form. To me he is a dumb scmuck and I would not waste my time having coffee with him. I hang out with all types and do not exclude on the basis of sporting preferences. I have even been known to break bread with cricket players and to me....cricket is the most boring game in the universe. But hey, he had an interesting line of conversation and the man was intelligent as well. l Mikeand shel. Completely happy being arrogant thanks. If that is a label you like to hang on me...I can live with that. I would rather be arrogant than ignorant. Am I superior to all? Nope! Just some! Am I better than all? Nope! Just some! Am I more intelligent than all? Nope! Just some!l l " its only arrogance that leads you to the assumption that you are superior in any way to myself. sorry to say, but in this you would be very very mistaken indeed." l I guess we really are all entitled to our own opinions after all. BTW you stick with the dictionary definitions and the corrections of what has now become common slang. After all, it is only arrogance that makes you think the rest of us dont already know how to use a dictionary or a thesaurus.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' I hate to say this but I really do not find Beckham attractive in any way, shape or form. To me he is a dumb scmuck and I would not waste my time having coffee with him. Okay, so we've established the fact that intriguing, handsome, wealthy, interesting and funny don't constitute intelligence. You value intelligence over any or all of those characteristics? Fair enough - you're absolutely entitled to do so.You really wouldn't even bother having a coffee with Beckham? Hell, I'm straight, but I'd consider shagging him just so I could say that I did. I value intelligent conversation too, but I like to think that I'm open to seeing whatever people have to offer, even if it isn't that. It's your prerogative to feel otherwise, but in my opinion, you're probably missing out on some nice people and some good sex - so be it though...
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14 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'fionabee' I hate to say this but I really do not find Beckham attractive in any way, shape or form. To me he is a dumb scmuck and I would not waste my time having coffee with him. Okay, so we've established the fact that intriguing, handsome, wealthy, interesting and funny don't constitute intelligence. You value intelligence over any or all of those characteristics? Fair enough - you're absolutely entitled to do so.You really wouldn't even bother having a coffee with Beckham? Hell, I'm straight, but I'd consider shagging him just so I could say that I did. I value intelligent conversation too, but I like to think that I'm open to seeing whatever people have to offer, even if it isn't that. It's your prerogative to feel otherwise, but in my opinion, you're probably missing out on some nice people and some good sex - so be it though...the way i see it, david beckhams one smart cookie...ok he comes across as not having a clue, or any real redeeming features other than soccer skills and good looks...but neither of these are actually what puts dinner on his table....its business acumen. its clever marketing of an attractive product, its tapping a market thats screaming for what he has.......is he intelligent? absoluetley! does he have a clue? how could he not? hes worth a truckload of cash, has a high profile wife, and is in demand where ever he goes...............this guy has outdone anyone any of us could hope to meet, and done it in a style all of his own , while maintaining his privacy and independance by playing.......one hell of a DUMB SCHMUCK! if anything, we should all admire the guy...........the 'lack of intelligence' is a well rehearsed and faultlessly maintained charade......because hes done what the rest of us cannot hope to do, and thats to make something ordinary into something extremely extra-ordinary and desirable..........to many............'intelligence' doesnt have to be a statement of how 'much' you know....thats 'knowledge'....intelligence can also be how well you use what knowledge you have, and how you apply it...........to me, he must be a genius, to be able to make so much from what appears to be so little...............
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14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' I hate to say this but I really do not find Beckham attractive in any way, shape or form. To me he is a dumb scmuck and I would not waste my time having coffee with him. I hang out with all types and do not exclude on the basis of sporting preferences. I have even been known to break bread with cricket players and to me....cricket is the most boring game in the universe. But hey, he had an interesting line of conversation and the man was intelligent as well. l Mikeand shel. Completely happy being arrogant thanks. If that is a label you like to hang on me...I can live with that. I would rather be arrogant than ignorant. Am I superior to all? Nope! Just some! Am I better than all? Nope! Just some! Am I more intelligent than all? Nope! Just some!l l " its only arrogance that leads you to the assumption that you are superior in any way to myself. sorry to say, but in this you would be very very mistaken indeed." l I guess we really are all entitled to our own opinions after all. BTW you stick with the dictionary definitions and the corrections of what has now become common slang. After all, it is only arrogance that makes you think the rest of us dont already know how to use a dictionary or a thesaurus. no....I'm in no way being 'arrogant'...........just aware that a great many people dont look at theirs, and prefer to cut n paste from the 'net..........it would be arrogant if i were to break words down into their 'root' form and quote to you the latin, greek or in some cases french words they came from.......
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14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' l I guess we really are all entitled to our own opinions after all. BTW you stick with the dictionary definitions and the corrections of what has now become common slang. After all, it is only arrogance that makes you think the rest of us dont already know how to use a dictionary or a thesaurus. where is it used as slang? the USA if i remember correctly...its not used here very widely at all, as we have a small Jewish community only....try speaking Australian English...not the bastardized and corrupted mockery the Americans torture us with...
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
Quoting 'Hotsexycouple88' , Mensa is a joke . try to google , what have Mensa done nothing comes up , Apart from doing a bit of research & offering the occasional scholarship, Mensa is a social club, we socialize. Hedonism is our purpose; we are not Rotary, Greenpeace or Hezbollah. I think we achieve what we set out to do rather well. :)
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'fionabee' l I guess we really are all entitled to our own opinions after all. BTW you stick with the dictionary definitions and the corrections of what has now become common slang. After all, it is only arrogance that makes you think the rest of us dont already know how to use a dictionary or a thesaurus. where is it used as slang? the USA if i remember correctly...its not used here very widely at all, as we have a small Jewish community only....try speaking Australian English...not the bastardized and corrupted mockery the Americans torture us with... It is listed in Macquarie, and everyone here seem to understand the meaning. Seems to be part of Australian English as far as I can see.
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'fionabee' For me to find someone was intriguing, handsome, wealthy, interesting and funny then obviously thier intelligence would, at the very least, match mine and they would not be a dumb schmuk now would they? A job interview? Not likely...more like a touch of common sense when you get off YOUR high horse and think about it. David Beckham probably possesses all of the above characteristics, but by all accounts he's as dumb as a post. Still, you hang out with rugby players, not soccer players, right? I doubt Beckham would be interesting or funny, if he is "by all accounts as dumb as a post".
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14 years ago
his awards and career milestones include Manchester United Premier League : 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03 FA Cup : 1995–96, 1998–99 UEFA Champions League : 1998–99 Intercontinental Cup : 1999 FA Community Shield : 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997 FA Youth Cup : 1992 Real Madrid La Liga : 2006–07 Supercopa de España : 2003 Los Angeles Galaxy MLS Western Conference : 2009, 2010 MLS Supporters' Shield : 2010 International England Tournoi de France: 1997 FA Summer Tournament: 2004 Individual Premier League Player of the Month : August 1996 PFA Young Player of the Year : 1996–97 Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year : 1996–97 UEFA Club Footballer of the Year : 1998–99 UEFA Club Midfielder of the Year : 1998–99 Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02): Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade Goal of the Decade (vs. Wimbledon, 17 August 1996) BBC Sports Personality of the Year : 2001 FIFA 100 ESPY Award – Best Male Soccer Player: 2004 ESPY Award – Best MLS Player: 2008 English Football Hall of Fame: 2008 BBC Sports Personality of the Year Lifetime Achievement Award : 2010 Orders and special awards Officer in the Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II: 2003 England Player of the Year: 2003 United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) Goodwill Ambassador (2005–present) "Britain's Greatest Ambassador" – 100 Greatest Britons awards The Celebrity 100, number 15 – Forbes 2007 Number 1 on the list of the 40 most influential men under the age of 40 in the UK – Arena, 2007 Time 100: 2008 Gold Blue Peter Badge winner, 2001 pretty good for someone as 'dumb as a post'..............certainly looks like hes had a very interesting and lucratively rewarding life.....the poor sausage....wonder how he copes....?????
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'malmensa'I doubt Beckham would be interesting or funny, if he is "by all accounts as dumb as a post". Oh yeah, I keep forgetting - dumb people can't be interesting or funny - only smart ones can. I've written that on the back of my hand, so hopefully I'll get it straight when next this topic comes up.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel'the way i see it, david beckhams one smart cookie...ok he comes across as not having a clue, or any real redeeming features other than soccer skills and good looks...but neither of these are actually what puts dinner on his table....its business acumen. its clever marketing of an attractive product, its tapping a market thats screaming for what he has.......is he intelligent? absoluetley! Nah, I don't buy it. He's the focal point of a corporation, but most of the decisions would be made by the fairly large team of people around him. None of them want him to think of anything except playing soccer - if he does that well, they all do well out of it.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'mikeandshel'the way i see it, david beckhams one smart cookie...ok he comes across as not having a clue, or any real redeeming features other than soccer skills and good looks...but neither of these are actually what puts dinner on his table....its business acumen. its clever marketing of an attractive product, its tapping a market thats screaming for what he has.......is he intelligent? absoluetley! Nah, I don't buy it. He's the focal point of a corporation, but most of the decisions would be made by the fairly large team of people around him. None of them want him to think of anything except playing soccer - if he does that well, they all do well out of it.he may have a team surrounding him now, but i can almost guarantee thats not always been the case.....but thats just academic anyways, its only his accent that makes it 'appear' as though he's not a bright spark.....half my families from London, and although they sound like he does, theres not a dumb schmuck amongst them...........
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RHP User
14 years ago
mikeandshel David Beckham has achieved all that and he fucks a spice girl, Does that make him intelligent? intellectual? arrogant??? or just lucky?????
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14 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel'he may have a team surrounding him now, but i can almost guarantee thats not always been the case.....He signed schoolboy forms at Manchester United on his fourteenth birthday, so he's been managed since he was a child. It's possible that he's more intelligent than he comes across, but I've never seen evidence of it in his interviews...
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'mikeandshel'he may have a team surrounding him now, but i can almost guarantee thats not always been the case.....He signed schoolboy forms at Manchester United on his fourteenth birthday, so he's been managed since he was a child. It's possible that he's more intelligent than he comes across, but I've never seen evidence of it in his interviews...but do you really think he stood there mute while someone else did all the thinking and talking? ....... he certainly leads a very interesting and fortunate life for someone who is both a 'dumb schmuck' and 'as thick as a post'..............?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'lovman8'mikeandshel David Beckham has achieved all that and he fucks a spice girl, Does that make him intelligent? intellectual? arrogant??? or just lucky????? no, just determined.....wouldnt you like to be so 'unfortunate'? he achieved what he set out to do as a child....to be a professional football player.....i'd say he exceeded his childhood dreams quite substantially.............
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RHP User
14 years ago
Seriously What a giant pissing contest
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Seriously What a giant pissing contest we thought we were being 'conversational'.............theres no argument here, just an adult conversation...you'll find we have nothing to piss over....lol
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hey we watching , if you not going to piss , shut up Bad kitty (-: bad bad bad Kitty Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Seriously What a giant pissing contest
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RHP User
14 years ago
Nope Mike i wasn't refering to you. Just the whole topic, the OP who is somehow delusional as to the level of superiority to others? It's just a sad, sad topic. Honestly. It's just a dick whip out...a giant wank. Some of the pompous self importance going on here is astonishing. Lets all wave our degrees around, woo hoo; aren't we all dreadfully clever and superior. pppffftttt.....please. Sure, intelligence is very sexy to me; i married an intellect BUT so is being humble. xx Kitty Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Seriously What a giant pissing contest we thought we were being 'conversational'.............theres no argument here, just an adult conversation...you'll find we have nothing to piss over....lol
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Nope Mike i wasn't refering to you. Just the whole topic, the OP who is somehow delusional as to the level of superiority to others? It's just a sad, sad topic. Honestly. It's just a dick whip out...a giant wank. Some of the pompous self importance going on here is astonishing. Lets all wave our degrees around, woo hoo; aren't we all dreadfully clever and superior. pppffftttt.....please. Sure, intelligence is very sexy to me; i married an intellect BUT so is being humble.I think I agree... unless you mean that I'm one of the wankers. Actually, I wouldn't even be that offended if you did - I've been called worse.No degree here though - I quit high school after year 10, which may help explain my disdain for the intellectual set in this discussion. I wholeheartedly agree - it's a very sad topic... though I've found myself compelled to contribute to it...
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14 years ago
Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Sure, intelligence is very sexy to me; i married an intellect BUT so is being humble. xx KittyI'm the MOST humble person I know and yet so few want what I've got to offer
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14 years ago
How could it be Rob, you're one of the sweetest boys i know?! Quoting 'Total_Recall' Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Sure, intelligence is very sexy to me; i married an intellect BUT so is being humble. xx KittyI'm the MOST humble person I know and yet so few want what I've got to offer
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Genius_Ironman
14 years ago
Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Lets all wave our degrees around, woo hoo; aren't we all dreadfully clever and superior. xx Kitty Actually no one in this thread has mentioned their formal educational qualifications. The closest was mikeandshel, who alluded to former associates with degrees, described as “scary”.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Lets all wave our degrees around, woo hoo; aren't we all dreadfully clever and superior. pppffftttt.....please. Sure, intelligence is very sexy to me; i married an intellect BUT so is being humble. xx Kitty We've got a spell check....can we wave that around?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'malmensa' Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Lets all wave our degrees around, woo hoo; aren't we all dreadfully clever and superior. xx Kitty Actually no one in this thread has mentioned their formal educational qualifications. The closest was mikeandshel, who alluded to former associates with degrees, described as “scary”.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Thanks Kitty for the attack...you might be married to one (an intellect) but you clearly missed out on your own personal allotment. Have a nice day....NOT.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'CrackUp'Thanks Kitty for the attack...you might be married to one (an intellect) but you clearly missed out on your own personal allotment. Have a nice day....NOT.
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RHP User
14 years ago
You asked opinions and invited people to disagree if they saw fit. I'm entitled to my opinion just like you are. We dont' have to agree with each other. Quoting 'CrackUp'Thanks Kitty for the attack...you might be married to one (an intellect) but you clearly missed out on your own personal allotment. Have a nice day....NOT.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Cat by name, catty by nature??? Yes, I am defensive...I don't have any intellectual credentials..I never said I did, I was just inviting discussion..what did I do to you personally to invite the words... Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Nope Mike i wasn't refering to you. Just the whole topic, the OP who is somehow delusional as to the level of superiority to others? It's just a sad, sad topic. Honestly. It's just a dick whip out...a giant wank. Some of the pompous self importance going on here is astonishing. Lets all wave our degrees around, woo hoo; aren't we all dreadfully clever and superior. pppffftttt.....please. Sure, intelligence is very sexy to me; i married an intellect BUT so is being humble. xx Kitty It's exactly as I said in my post...some people can't 'discuss' without turning to vilification. I don't consider myself 'superior' to anyone..as u allude to in the above comments, I simply posed a question to which you seem to have taken personal umbrage. Why the need to 'smack' people around??? I'm curious as to what could motivate you Kitty?
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RHP User
14 years ago
is it just me but this thread is getting retarded. kill it off methinks
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RHP User
14 years ago
Did you marry an intellect? or maybe an intellectual? Possibly you meant an academic maybe? l Yeah I have a degree and you know what? I left school at 15. I gained my degree as an adult student after 20 odd years in a dead end job that was hot, hard, sweaty and dirty. I did it so I could have a better life for myself and my son. Am I proud of my acheivements? You bet your sweet patootie I am. I went back to uni on the wrong side of forty, gained one degree and am now working on another. So yes, I am waving my degree and a half around. l Feeling justifyingly proud of myself and if that makes me arrogant...I dont give a f**k
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RHP User
14 years ago
Bugger...lol, well I obviously don't fit the criteria of an intellect. I bite when stomped all over .
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RHP User
14 years ago
possessing a degree doesnt guarantee anything. or even signify anything other than an ability to learn. in this day and age, just about anyone can obtain a degree, in almost any field. over the years i have found that its not whats written on some piece of paper that will open the door to opportunity, its actually how you conduct yourself, and how well you communicate.its my belief also that a head full of useless information wont win you favour or preference, or even tell anyone how smart you are (there are some real 'dummies' graduating from our universities)...........but being able to demonstrate and put into practical use what you might have learned is a real test of intelligence.... how well you communicate and share this knowledge with others certainly goes a long way as well............if you can share something that you know, with someone who doesnt, and they leave you with a sense of having grown as a result....then isnt that so much more valuable and fulfilling than waving something in their face and telling them "i'm better/smarter/more clever than you are"?........ arrogance isnt clever......its an undesirable character trait.......and to tell you the truth...I'd rather be ignorant and not know something (it means...'to lack knowledge') than know something and bully others with that knowledge.........
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RHP User
14 years ago
Examples of INTELLECT She is a woman of superior intellect. She has a sharp intellect. We were required to read a book every week in order to develop our intellects. music that appeals to the intellect while still satisfying the emotions And so you should be proud of your achievements fiona. Nothing wrong with that at all. There's a difference between being proud of your hard won accomplishments and crowing about how vastly superior you are as has happened here in this thread. Kitty Quoting 'fionabee' Did you marry an intellect? or maybe an intellectual? Possibly you meant an academic maybe? l Yeah I have a degree and you know what? I left school at 15. I gained my degree as an adult student after 20 odd years in a dead end job that was hot, hard, sweaty and dirty. I did it so I could have a better life for myself and my son. Am I proud of my acheivements? You bet your sweet patootie I am. I went back to uni on the wrong side of forty, gained one degree and am now working on another. So yes, I am waving my degree and a half around. l Feeling justifyingly proud of myself and if that makes me arrogant...I dont give a f**k
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RHP User
14 years ago
The question was mildly offensive, perhaps it could have been delivered better (i have been guilty of delivery issues, everyone has) it's some of the drivel that followed that was most offensive. JMO. Once again, the pot calling the kettle black, i know you're not afraid to rip into someone if you disagree with them. Kitty Quoting 'CrackUp'Cat by name, catty by nature??? Yes, I am defensive...I don't have any intellectual credentials..I never said I did, I was just inviting discussion..what did I do to you personally to invite the words... Quoting 'KinkyKittyKat1' Nope Mike i wasn't refering to you. Just the whole topic, the OP who is somehow delusional as to the level of superiority to others? It's just a sad, sad topic. Honestly. It's just a dick whip out...a giant wank. Some of the pompous self importance going on here is astonishing. Lets all wave our degrees around, woo hoo; aren't we all dreadfully clever and superior. pppffftttt.....please. Sure, intelligence is very sexy to me; i married an intellect BUT so is being humble. xx Kitty It's exactly as I said in my post...some people can't 'discuss' without turning to vilification. I don't consider myself 'superior' to anyone..as u allude to in the above comments, I simply posed a question to which you seem to have taken personal umbrage. Why the need to 'smack' people around??? I'm curious as to what could motivate you Kitty?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hi KittyThat's fair call.. it has gotten a bit heated and if it came across as 'mildly offensive', I certainly never intended it to be - it was not my intention to stir up trouble. It is obviously one of those subjects that should be thrown in with the 'never discuss' things.. you know, like 'politics, sex and religion' (now I think whoever said that was pretty damn smart). Thank you for responding (and very graciously too I might add). It really is so easy to misunderstand, mis-communicate and be misunderstood in the written word and yet so much of our communication is done like this...you begin to understand how wars can start at the stroke of the pen. Sorry for biting your head off....one of my less desirable character traits I'm afraid :-(
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14 years ago
FIRST QUESTION:YOU ARE A PARTICIPANT IN A RACE. YOU OVERTAKETHE SECOND PERSON. WHAT POSITION ARE YOU IN? ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ ANSWER : IF YOU ANSWERED THAT YOU ARE FIRST,THEN YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG! IF YOU OVERTAKE THESECOND PERSON AND YOU TAKE HIS PLACE, YOU ARE IN SECOND PLACE! TRY TO DO BETTER NEXT TIME.NOW ANSWER THE SECOND QUESTION,BUT DON'T TAKE AS MUCH TIME ASYOU TOOK FOR THE FIRST QUESTION, OK? SECOND QUESTION:IF YOU OVERTAKE THE LAST PERSON, THEN YOU ARE....?(SCROLL DOWN) ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ ANSWER: IF YOU ANSWERED THAT YOU ARE SECOND TO LAST, THEN YOU ARE..... WRONG AGAIN. TELL ME SUNSHINE, HOW CAN YOU OVERTAKE THE LAST PERSON?? YOU'RE NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS, ARE YOU? THIRD QUESTION:VERY TRICKY ARITHMETIC! NOTE:THIS MUST BE DONE IN YOUR HEAD ONLY.DO NOT USE PAPER AND PENCIL OR A CALCULATOR.TRY IT. TAKE 1000 AND ADD 40 TO IT. NOW ADD ANOTHER 1000 NOW ADD 30.ADD ANOTHER 1000. NOW ADD 20 .. NOW ADD ANOTHER 1000.NOW ADD 10. WHAT IS THE TOTAL? SCROLL DOWN FOR THE CORRECT ANSWER..... ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ DID YOU GET 5000?THE CORRECT ANSWER IS ACTUALLY 4100... IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, CHECK IT WITH A CALCULATOR!TODAY IS DEFINITELY NOT YOUR DAY, IS IT? MAYBE YOU'LL GET THE LAST QUESTION RIGHT.... MAYBE... FOURTH QUESTION:MARY'S FATHER HAS FIVE DAUGHTERS: 1. NANA, 2. NENE, 3. NINI, 4. NONO, AND ???2 WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE FIFTH DAUGHTER? ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ DID YOU ANSWER NUNU? NO! OF COURSE IT ISN'T.HER NAME IS MARY! READ THE QUESTION AGAIN! OKAY, NOW THE BONUS ROUND,I.E., A FINAL CHANCE TOREDEEM YOURSELF: A MUTE PERSON GOES INTO A SHOP AND WANTS TO BUY A TOOTHBRUSH.BY IMITATING THE ACTION OF BRUSHING HIS TEETH HESUCCESSFULLY EXPRESSES HIMSELF TO THE SHOPKEEPER AND THE PURCHASE IS DONE.NEXT, A BLIND MAN COMES INTO THE SHOP WHO WANTS TO BUY APAIR OF SUNGLASSES; HOW DOES HE INDICATE WHAT HE WANTS?~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ IT'S REALLY VERY SIMPLEHE OPENS HIS MOUTH AND ASKS FOR IT...DOES YOUR EMPLOYER ACTUALLY PAY YOU TO THINK??IF SO DO NOT LET THEM SEE YOUR ANSWERS FOR THIS TEST!
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