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Out with religion..
April 13 2012
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14 years ago
Buddhistanarchohumanistfeminist practicing humour and compassion...well I try to
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14 years ago
one of the problems with organized religions is that there is this sense of separateness..... which religion knows best?, which one of them is right? maybe derive our spirituality from a sense of unity insteadi think some people picture their gods as this judgmental guy in the sky looking down on us as separate... some people spend their whole life trying to please their gods in order to get to heaven or wherever it is they want to go. god(s) created us all equal,, including themselves........... we are all godsmy religion is my life and my expression of 'god' is my spirit.... which makes me ultimately responsible for myselfsigned *coodi the spiritual hippie* peace man
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14 years ago
We were walking together, along the main street of Campbelltown, when he saw a middle aged couple from his bible study group and stopped to say hello. He made introductions then said, "This is the athiest I was telling you about." "Get it right, mate." I told him. "I'm not an athiest, I'm a hedonist." The woman asked, "What's a hedonist?" "Well, hedonism is the belief that the purpose of life is the pursuit of happiness." "Well, that's Jesus Christ." she told me. "No. That's Harley Davidson." I assured her.
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14 years ago
i worship DGT. take one look at her and then try to tell me i'm out of line.
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14 years ago
i'm the caring non-believer LOL.i read a book on it once..
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14 years ago
Quoting 'coodi_yowie'one of the problems with organized religions is that there is this sense of separateness..... which religion knows best?, which one of them is right? maybe derive our spirituality from a sense of unity instead i think some people picture their gods as this judgmental guy in the sky looking down on us as separate... some people spend their whole life trying to please their gods in order to get to heaven or wherever it is they want to go. god(s) created us all equal,, including themselves........... we are all gods my religion is my life and my expression of 'god' is my spirit.... which makes me ultimately responsible for myself signed *coodi the spiritual hippie* peace man I was brought up to be terrified of that Judgemental guy with the flowing robes and long white beard and hair in the sky looking down on me...waiting to punish me...condemn me...hate me for making mistakes in life...Yep I was brought up Roman Catholic! Started going to a little Spiritual Psychic Church that I discovered and they told me to read Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch...best thing I have ever done...While you can't get rid of brainwashing done to you in a life time..you can slowly chip away at it with Spiritualism or Hedonism! I recommend all his 3 books to everyone! xFunlovingx
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14 years ago
My Kids think I am GOD I am good with that
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14 years ago
My heart is my god and that's what i like to follow. Sometimes though i get bogged down with the brain and for the record it never works out just fine. It's a disaster.
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14 years ago
I admire and respect people that have faith, as long as it's used for lovin your fellow man and not hating them. Me, I agree with coodi. When you take away all the frills and material crap in this world and get back to what makes you happy, it's ourselves. It's more forfilling being positive, respectful and compassionate to not just everyone else, but more importantly to ourselves. I think it's about soughtin out our own internal crap, and some people prefer to do that with the help of their god. We all have spirit, and connecting with that spirit is pretty damn forfilling. Bliss out peeps. Quoting 'coodi_yowie' god(s) created us all equal,, including themselves........... we are all gods my religion is my life and my expression of 'god' is my spirit.... which makes me ultimately responsible for myself
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14 years ago
Quoting 'littlewings'i worship DGT. take one look at her and then try to tell me i'm out of line. i think ill join your religion Littlewings...she is pretty damn hot that one!! Hugs
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14 years ago
Bows in awe of the goddess DGT (and whilst on my knees has a quick peek up her toga - I have seen the light :D)
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14 years ago
Dangerous territory I don't begrudge anyone believing in whatever gets them through the day, howeverAtheist here!I think religion has a bloody lot to answer for!Cheers Felonius
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14 years ago
I let you be the judge of how that went for me Though I must be getting my faith back I keep yelling OHHHH god oHHHHHH god OHHHHHh fuck yeah GOD!
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14 years ago
Fat vs Skinny?Bi vs StraightLabour vs Liberal?Professional vs Everyone Else?Collingwood vs Carlton?I really liked some words of wisdom from the prophet Stalky recently - "I'm an apathetic agnostic - I don't know and I don't care."Works for me for the most part. I have no need for any of the traditional forms of deity but do have a personal philosophy that's similar to the Tao (or it's more modern form - Dudeism).But there are more important things to believe in - Go the 'Pies!Mr C
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14 years ago
Quoting 'chickcara'Fat vs Skinny? Bi vs Straight Labour vs Liberal? Professional vs Everyone Else? Collingwood vs Carlton? I really liked some words of wisdom from the prophet Stalky recently - "I'm an apathetic agnostic - I don't know and I don't care." Works for me for the most part. I have no need for any of the traditional forms of deity but do have a personal philosophy that's similar to the Tao (or it's more modern form - Dudeism). But there are more important things to believe in - Go the 'Pies! Mr C Hold my hand on the cakewalk ? Go Pies . Littlewings, I know you were on your knees when you typed that......cos you forgot Spiderman as well . Personally I worship the almighty Orgasm, his...mine...ours....yours lol
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14 years ago
Quoting 'chickcara'Fat vs Skinny? Bi vs Straight Labour vs Liberal? Professional vs Everyone Else? Collingwood vs Carlton? I really liked some words of wisdom from the prophet Stalky recently - "I'm an apathetic agnostic - I don't know and I don't care." Works for me for the most part. I have no need for any of the traditional forms of deity but do have a personal philosophy that's similar to the Tao (or it's more modern form - Dudeism). But there are more important things to believe in - Go the 'Pies! Mr C i will except your... fat vs skinny bi vs straight labour vs liberal professional vs everyone else but i will be damned if i will except collingwood....EVER!!!!!! Hugs
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14 years ago
Quoting 'littlewings' i worship DGT. take one look at her and then try to tell me i'm out of line. Me too Littlewings... want to get together and worship at the altar of DGT and drink out of the chalice of LURVE. xxMeeka
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14 years ago
I'm half way through "Wicca for beginners"
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14 years ago
Is that a word? If it is and we could replace organised religion with personal spiritualism, centred around compassion, tolerance and community, oh what a world it would be xxxI am, therefore, spiritualistic.
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14 years ago
Jewish/pacificist Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch...best thing I have ever done... Although we have had our differences funloving, I have to say that Ive had that book sitting on my bookshelf for ages..I think someone gave it to me..but I dont remember...based on what you have just wrote and that you recommend it so highly..I will now read it..thankyou
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14 years ago
you lot are barassing me......*sneaks off to wave her Pies flag before WBD changes her mind*
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14 years ago
Quoting 'SLK27' Jewish/pacificist Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch...best thing I have ever done... Although we have had our differences funloving, I have to say that Ive had that book sitting on my bookshelf for ages..I think someone gave it to me..but I dont remember...based on what you have just wrote and that you recommend it so highly..I will now read it..thankyou SLK you need to make sure that it is Book 1...The white book....I found all his books to be fantastic but the first one is my favourite! Another book that I loved was Celestine Prophecy...excellent as well. Maybe it is time for you to read the book..the Universe works in mysterious ways! Hugs...xFunlovingx
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14 years ago
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14 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Quoting 'SLK27' Jewish/pacificist Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch...best thing I have ever done... Although we have had our differences funloving, I have to say that Ive had that book sitting on my bookshelf for ages..I think someone gave it to me..but I dont remember...based on what you have just wrote and that you recommend it so highly..I will now read it..thankyou SLK you need to make sure that it is Book 1...The white book....I found all his books to be fantastic but the first one is my favourite! Another book that I loved was Celestine Prophecy...excellent as well. Maybe it is time for you to read the book..the Universe works in mysterious ways! Hugs...xFunlovingxWith her big foam PIES finger
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14 years ago
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14 years ago
There's a game on.D_G_T some divine intervention wouldn't hurt right now...
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14 years ago
SLK you need to make sure that it is Book 1...The white book....I found all his books to be fantastic but the first one is my favourite! Another book that I loved was Celestine Prophecy...excellent as well. Maybe it is time for you to read the book..the Universe works in mysterious ways! Yes Ive double checked, it is Book one and I do have the set (the 3)...the thing is I cant remember how I even came by it... weird !!! and Ive lugged it everywhere for years....Ive just started reading it now... I read the Celestine Prophecy when it first came out and did one of the workshops that was based on the book (I dont know whether it was a big here in Australia with workshops etc, but it was huge in the States..) it was a excellent book, and still rings true today..Im a real believer in it... Again I do say thanks Cheers
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14 years ago
Quoting 'D_G_T' Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Quoting 'SLK27' Jewish/pacificist Conversations With God by Neale Donald Walsch...best thing I have ever done... Although we have had our differences funloving, I have to say that Ive had that book sitting on my bookshelf for ages..I think someone gave it to me..but I dont remember...based on what you have just wrote and that you recommend it so highly..I will now read it..thankyou SLK you need to make sure that it is Book 1...The white book....I found all his books to be fantastic but the first one is my favourite! Another book that I loved was Celestine Prophecy...excellent as well. Maybe it is time for you to read the book..the Universe works in mysterious ways! Hugs...xFunlovingxWith her big foam PIES finger Oh yes baby...would you like me to bend over more! And Ruby...make sure I get smacked good and hard! Hugs...xFunlovingx
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14 years ago
'cause I know you would enjoy a hard spanking just toooooo much
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14 years ago
I think my karma just ran over my dogma.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'ruby_blossum''cause I know you would enjoy a hard spanking just toooooo much Ohhhhh give it to me baby....uhuh uhuh..... Hugs...xFunlovingx
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14 years ago
Quoting 'chickcara'There's a game on. D_G_T some divine intervention wouldn't hurt right now... How is that divine intervention working for ya? Hugs...xFunlovingx
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14 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Quoting 'chickcara'There's a game on. D_G_T some divine intervention wouldn't hurt right now... How is that divine intervention working for ya? Hugs...xFunlovingx the topic was religion, not football.Focus people, focus...Tonights sermon was a lesson in the folly of worshipping false idols. No divine foam finger was going to help us tonight, the boys just needed to be harder at the ball.I think there's something in that for all of us.Mr C
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14 years ago
...you ever look under the habits those nuns wear? Jearzus, forget the makeup and glam...there is some seriously untouched field that need plowing and what with the need to convert saints to sinners (or something like that) and they have plenty of wine to get them drunk? Sure, it's occasionally embarrassing if you are done with a half-dozen of them on the front pews by early Sunday morning or get caught washing up in the Holy Water but who cares! | The good part...you can race up and push everyone out of the way and jump in the confessional first, just try not to laugh when you say "Forgive me father for I have sinned"...or really raise a ruckus when you hear a voice accidentally say "No fucking shit...I was sitting here watching" come through the little window on the other side. | Fortunately there's absolution...the hit man from the mafia gets that too you know. | Actually, I'm a Frisbee-tarian...I think you kark it and your soul just flies up on the nearest rooftop and you spend all eternity waiting for a strong breeze to carry you off somewhere else. I just hope there's plenty of nuns in heaven. | Amen
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14 years ago
You all have it wrong........ . This is a prison planet for other galaxies...we are all here for re-programming. The ones who run the show are called reptilians....so just beware peeps. The way they control us is through modern medicine.....you just never know what those doctors are giving you in those shots. *queue music for the Twilight Zone*
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14 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Me too Littlewings... want to get together and worship at the altar of DGT and drink out of the chalice of LURVE. xxMeeka the best part of this new and fast growing religion, is that sinning is actually a good thing. instead of talking in tongues, we tangle tongues, ur birthday suit is also ur sunday best, and you don't have to wait until u die to be taken into her bosom. sorry for embarassing u DGT, i'm ready to pay my penance.
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14 years ago
Believing in oneself is a good start...... The Universe is a very powerful energy & has a lot of answers...... I went looking for something & found her, compassion,trust,tolerance, being non-judgemental to others, we have all been given CHOICES, IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEM DAZI
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14 years ago
soon i discovered that this rock thing was true jerry lee lewis was the devil and jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet all of a sudden i found myself in love with this world so there was only one thing left i could do was ding a ding dand my dand along ling long jesus built my hot rod ministry food for thought hehe
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14 years ago
its still fiday the 13th in my book me and my axe are going to go hang with jason
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14 years ago
dang...... dang... stupid dyslexia
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14 years ago
i believe in honesty and respect.hubby and i have discusssed if we teach our kids about religion, we decided no, they can choose when they are ready.i have friends who dont believe but have taught their kids about heaven, its soo backwards. im not into decieving my children.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'SLK27' SLK you need to make sure that it is Book 1...The white book....I found all his books to be fantastic but the first one is my favourite! Another book that I loved was Celestine Prophecy...excellent as well. Maybe it is time for you to read the book..the Universe works in mysterious ways! Yes Ive double checked, it is Book one and I do have the set (the 3)...the thing is I cant remember how I even came by it... weird !!! and Ive lugged it everywhere for years....Ive just started reading it now... I read the Celestine Prophecy when it first came out and did one of the workshops that was based on the book (I dont know whether it was a big here in Australia with workshops etc, but it was huge in the States..) it was a excellent book, and still rings true today..Im a real believer in it... Again I do say thanks Cheers I have been bugged since reading this message from you...You need to not only READ it .. you need to SAVOUR the book ... when you have that "uhuh" moment from what you read ... PAUSE and contemplate what you have just read really take those parts in! And yes, you were meant to read it at this time. Enjoy it! Hugs...xFunlovingx
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14 years ago
Quoting 'Handmaiden' You all have it wrong........ . This is a prison planet for other galaxies...we are all here for re-programming. The ones who run the show are called reptilians....so just beware peeps. The way they control us is through modern medicine.....you just never know what those doctors are giving you in those shots. *queue music for the Twilight Zone* ahh, another conspiracy theorist i see.... i had my head in a lot of that stuff when i was younger. a lot of theory is actually conspiracy fact. your right, modern medicine has a lot to answer for. my views on immunization are a little alternate too....another spun out look at our existence........ everything has energy, and we all vibrate at different frequencies, depending on our level of experience on this earth.... or how many times we're been back again, for those that believe in reincarnation. It's our level of thinking, or how we experience our own daily reality that decides what dimensional plain we live on.... this will release us from the prison of our mind, and into those galaxies you talk about.maybe we are just renting our bodies....... .....yes.. i've had my medication this morning
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14 years ago
I'm a realist, i believe in things that can be proved not myths. Religions just a big con. It's like santa, we tell our kids he's real and they believ,e but at some point we tell them he's not real. Unfortuneatly no one tells the other mob that religions not real.
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14 years ago
While she was there, the mormons came knocking at the front door. After I opened the door and they greeted me they looked past me to see my friend there. "We would like to talk to you and your wife about Jesus Christ, if we may?" "No problem," I said, "But you'll have to come back later. My wife's at work. This is my girlfriend." They were very embarrassed and made a hasty exit. They never did come back.
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14 years ago
A book that I read very early on in my academic pursuits and now several times over.....The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature by William James, is actually a collection of lectures and compiled as a book in 1902, I have a copy of it here in my bookcase. In this work, James confirms the validity of abstract ideas of spiritual experience. His own study and understanding of physiology, psychology, and philosophy...then applied to case studies of religious inspiration, his conclusion is that there are specific aspects of human consciousness that contained energies that do in fact exist, the result is what he refers to as the religious experience. This book has been reprinted dozens of times and whilst a painful read as it was authored in the classic academic language of the period, remains as influential and as significant today as it was when first published...in fact the board of the Modern Library established that James’s book was the second-best nonfiction book of the twentieth century. | The ultimate conclusion from this work is simply the existence yet our minds are so finitely incapable of understanding the infinite, we by necessity had to give it a name and called it God. The many personas and interpretations of that are now what we call religion...I'll leave it there, thinking on a weekend makes my brain hurt.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' A book that I read very early on in my academic pursuits and now several times over.....The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature by William James, is actually a collection of lectures and compiled as a book in 1902, I have a copy of it here in my bookcase. In this work, James confirms the validity of abstract ideas of spiritual experience. His own study and understanding of physiology, psychology, and philosophy...then applied to case studies of religious inspiration, his conclusion is that there are specific aspects of human consciousness that contained energies that do in fact exist, the result is what he refers to as the religious experience. This book has been reprinted dozens of times and whilst a painful read as it was authored in the classic academic language of the period, remains as influential and as significant today as it was when first published...in fact the board of the Modern Library established that James’s book was the second-best nonfiction book of the twentieth century. | The ultimate conclusion from this work is simply the existence yet our minds are so finitely incapable of understanding the infinite, we by necessity had to give it a name and called it God. The many personas and interpretations of that are now what we call religion...I'll leave it there, thinking on a weekend makes my brain hurt. Spin it any way you want, Darwinism dispells creationism every time. There was even a court case about it.
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14 years ago
I've experienced dejavu in a very real and on occason, very strong sense. It's existence is enough to convince me that there is more to life than we know. Perhaps this is part of the "human conciousness/religious experience" that CM is refering to. For my part, and I know that this is an offensive point of veiw to a lot of people, I can not believe in the god Jehovah/Allah. The religion of the one true god seems to have come about from lessons learned from previous religions. The Gods of Mount Olympus were disproven once the peak was surmounted. This new god lived in the heavens and so could not be so easily disproven. It became a matter of faith in whoever spun the best story. The Jewish faith branched into the Christian faith and then was joined by the Islamic faith and then the Baha'i faith and so forth. The real problem for me is that this one, all powerful god would make himself known to the people of one very small corner of the world and ignore the rest of the globe. There are people in New Guinea who are still yet to hear about this god and yet, according to Christians, they are condemned to purgatory upon their death as they have not accepted Jesus as their saviour. These religious beliefs have been spread throughout the world at the point of a sword or a gun. No miracle here. As I indicated in my opening remarks, I do believe there is a spiritual force at play in our lives. I believe that all religions are an attempt to define that force but I do not believe that the human mind is capable of comprehending this force, at least not yet and I'm certain that the religions that originated in the remote corner of the south east Mediteranean are nowhere near the mark.
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14 years ago
Well I'm a dirty lil whore and I have been naked with a huge amount of nice rhpers in brisbane area and beyond. Funny thing is that my religion pretty much always comes up in conversation , well it just has to -becoz its a huge part of my inner and outer life. I find that most of them have a belief or an actual realisation of a higher power , usually this is of an actual God with personality. Dig just a tiny bit and I find it there with just about everyone. No theyre not just being polite coz they want to fuck me lol -those that I meet that tend to be atheists are those that have had a very rough time lately , makes them think ; 'if there's a god then He can go fuck Himself for putting me through all this shit'Its just good science and logic ; we're people with personality , we're not machines , therefore the original energy force that we have come from MUST also have personality , seek and you will find Him
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14 years ago
Quoting 'coodi_yowie' Quoting 'Handmaiden' You all have it wrong........ . This is a prison planet for other galaxies...we are all here for re-programming. The ones who run the show are called reptilians....so just beware peeps. The way they control us is through modern medicine.....you just never know what those doctors are giving you in those shots. *queue music for the Twilight Zone* ahh, another conspiracy theorist i see.... i had my head in a lot of that stuff when i was younger. a lot of theory is actually conspiracy fact. your right, modern medicine has a lot to answer for. my views on immunization are a little alternate too.... another spun out look at our existence........ everything has energy, and we all vibrate at different frequencies, depending on our level of experience on this earth.... or how many times we're been back again, for those that believe in reincarnation. It's our level of thinking, or how we experience our own daily reality that decides what dimensional plain we live on.... this will release us from the prison of our mind, and into those galaxies you talk about. maybe we are just renting our bodies....... .....yes.. i've had my medication this morning Can't a person take the piss around here anymore. ? Double the strength of the meds man they is not working...lol.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' I've experienced dejavu in a very real and on occason, very strong sense. It's existence is enough to convince me that there is more to life than we know. Perhaps this is part of the "human conciousness/religious experience" that CM is refering to. For my part, and I know that this is an offensive point of veiw to a lot of people, I can not believe in the god Jehovah/Allah. The religion of the one true god seems to have come about from lessons learned from previous religions. The Gods of Mount Olympus were disproven once the peak was surmounted. This new god lived in the heavens and so could not be so easily disproven. It became a matter of faith in whoever spun the best story. The Jewish faith branched into the Christian faith and then was joined by the Islamic faith and then the Baha'i faith and so forth. The real problem for me is that this one, all powerful god would make himself known to the people of one very small corner of the world and ignore the rest of the globe. There are people in New Guinea who are still yet to hear about this god and yet, according to Christians, they are condemned to purgatory upon their death as they have not accepted Jesus as their saviour. These religious beliefs have been spread throughout the world at the point of a sword or a gun. No miracle here. As I indicated in my opening remarks, I do believe there is a spiritual force at play in our lives. I believe that all religions are an attempt to define that force but I do not believe that the human mind is capable of comprehending this force, at least not yet and I'm certain that the religions that originated in the remote corner of the south east Mediteranean are nowhere near the mark. nice post jensman and you too CM.... i think spirituality is the new religion for most people these days, because we are more consciously aware then before, or at least more open to the idea of that 'something else'there's no need to define this 'force' you talk about.... just be apart of it! and the human mind doesn't have to comprehend it either..... just feel it!if you break things down... at the sub atomic level, we, and our universe are made of the same stuff, that means we are all interconnected.... we 'effect' each other, which 'effects' our universe....i find quantum physics very very sexy.... it talks about this stuff mentioned above. A must see movie for the curious mind and my favourite of all time is calledWhat the Bleep.... down the rabbit hole (orange cover, i think)the original is called 'What the bleep do we know'...(blue cover) this is good, but the second edition ( mentioned above ) is a lot better.... It's just an extended version with more interviews. there's a book too, it's all about case studies/experiments... very interesting read.another amazing read is the 'the hidden message in water'... really cool there's a little segment in the movie about this book which was a goose bump moment for me...
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14 years ago
..to do with creationism but rather the inalienable force that does exist. We can tap into if only on a smaller plane until our minds evolve or we are better able to fully access the approximate 90% that we do not functionally use now. | Quoting 'Mac555'Spin it any way you want, Darwinism dispells creationism every time. There was even a court case about it. | Yes, I would have no doubt that in a court case held by logical men with great capacity and intent...most any sort of a ruling would be possible. Similar court cases over the last 1000 years or so have ruled on everything from religion to politics and back again...even on the mass executions of anyone that held a different belief. Perhaps in the case you cite, I wonder if in these courts they didn't know what to call it so they ruled that it was called Darwin's theory in motion. || Have they ever ruled on just how long a day may be when you consider infinity as the point of logical relevance...that could just be what Darwin's theory was about after all. I don't believe in any of the fairy tales either, regardless of the colour of the book or who wrote it....I think we may always be an unfinished work in progress. | I rest my case.
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14 years ago
I got the serious stuff out of the way last night, now for the real answer:It's just a ride.Religion is fundamentally about answering Why. Science has largely taken care of the How.The way I see it though is that we can't possibly know, and more importantly - it doesn't really matter!It's just a ride. There are twists and turns and ups and downs. Other riders come and go. We make choices that take the ride in different directions, and sometimes the ride just takes us where it wants to go. No matter which path we take though the ride progresses to its inevitable end. We have to get off because there's always more waiting for their turn.It's hard to take the ride too seriously, that's not what rides are for.Enjoying it while it lasts...Mr C.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' Have they ever ruled on just how long a day may be when you consider infinity as the point of logical relevance...that could just be what Darwin's theory was about after all. I don't believe in any of the fairy tales either, regardless of the colour of the book or who wrote it....I think we may always be an unfinished work in progress. | I'm not argueing with anything Prof Midnight has said, it's just that every time the word is mentioned it does my head in. Imagine a clear, starry night. You're standing there, looking out into space and thinking, where does it end. Ofcourse it doesn't. If it did, what would be beyond it. Then, stop and think. We're using our veiw point as the beginning of infinity but we're actually standing in the middle of it. It's extending off in the other direction, on the other side of the Earth. However, even this train of thought is linear. It's actually going off in every direction forever (much like this post). It does my head in. If it's so hard to get the mind to encompass the notion of infinity, how are we going to comprehend a single power that controls it all. Ahhh, I've got a headache. I'm going to bed.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'coodi_yowie' Quoting 'Handmaiden' You all have it wrong........ . This is a prison planet for other galaxies...we are all here for re-programming. The ones who run the show are called reptilians....so just beware peeps. The way they control us is through modern medicine.....you just never know what those doctors are giving you in those shots. *queue music for the Twilight Zone* ahh, another conspiracy theorist i see.... i had my head in a lot of that stuff when i was younger. a lot of theory is actually conspiracy fact. your right, modern medicine has a lot to answer for. my views on immunization are a little alternate too....another spun out look at our existence........ everything has energy, and we all vibrate at different frequencies, depending on our level of experience on this earth.... or how many times we're been back again, for those that believe in reincarnation. It's our level of thinking, or how we experience our own daily reality that decides what dimensional plain we live on.... this will release us from the prison of our mind, and into those galaxies you talk about.maybe we are just renting our bodies....... .....yes.. i've had my medication this morning Ooh Coodi, have you read The Host by Stephenie Meyer (yes, the author of the Twilight series, who by the way, is a Morman). ;p
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14 years ago
I have been bugged since reading this message from you...You need to not only READ it .. you need to SAVOUR the book ... when you have that "uhuh" moment from what you read ... PAUSE and contemplate what you have just read really take those parts in! And yes, you were meant to read it at this time. Enjoy it! Thanks Funloving I will - its really interesting as it has come into my life at a very strange time for me..a time of doubt..and like I said Ive lugged it around with me for ages..and Im really bugged as to how it came to me now..I can't recall buying it...or borrowing it...The Universe moves in mysterious ways......but timing is everything isn't it...? I started it last nite and Im on Chapter 7, cause I really am taking it in !! Again thankyou
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14 years ago
Hi all ,what I cant get now is....reading all your input and understand most people in Australia are open minded...why is it....the religious people, even in minority, have such a big voice? I believe in creationisum and also love and respect to anyone. When we would believe we are all ONE we wouldnt have a need to fight each other.....however the powers to be will feed us the opposite because they need to have a purpose and a reason to spend all or money on war, and most wars are about religion, and separtion. We all need to give our positive thoughts more power...and as our thoughts can only change the world...its time to start thinking. HAVE MORE INTERCOURSE......its good for body and soul.
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14 years ago
I studied Tibetan Buddhism for over twenty years...met many ,many high Lamas,amazing people, including the Dalai Lama,spent ten days in New York with him Richard Gere and Alan Ginsberg incredible experience.Lived and worked in meditation centers here and the USA. This is what I know... Be happy Do no harm And if there is something else,what some call reincarnation hopefully frogdom doesn't beckon Although I do like the green treefogs in my garden and I quite like the ones in my pond too x hugs H ps I think the reason why organized religion is flawed is because it invloves people,people are flawed.
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14 years ago
Born into a Catholic family of Irish origins dating back to 10thC AD But.. even as a primary school student, I could NEVER understand waaay too much of what I was expected to "Believe in BLIND faith" When I read Immenual Velikovsky early teens era, I began to understand that Science will NEVER tell us the truth. IF science will never tell us the truth, then it stands to reason that CHURCHES certainly never will, nor will Governments, and absolutely NEVER will the news media. SO, what is the truth? I cant answer that, and never will claim to. NOR however, is ANYONE else.. ANYONE.. EVER!!! Zecharia Sitchin has a 6 book "EARTH SERIES" in which he lays out the possibility/probability that we were FARMED by a particular family of Aliens from a a planet some believe is in long orbit of 3,600 years (our years) in our own solar system He certainly puts a good spin on his ideas, and after studying a number of ancient, and mainline religious teachings along with mythology, it makes interesting reading. Certainly it brings alternatives to some of the "Hard to relate to" issues and confusions in most mainline religions Of course, having recently viewed an interesting series on "HISTORY" channel, "Ancient Aliens" and further studies in some of the core ideas of the program, I find myself leaning more toward a scientific method of our begginings. Maybe I always did anyway, which is why the teachings of my family religion seemed so "Full of it.." Caveman by design?
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14 years ago
If we were placed here by aliens, rather than having crawled from the primeval ooze, where did the aliens originate? Hehe, and while we're at it, can you tell me which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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14 years ago
ET . PHONE HOME Hugs...xFunlovingx
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14 years ago
Quoting 'newkee' Quoting 'coodi_yowie' Quoting 'Handmaiden' You all have it wrong........ . This is a prison planet for other galaxies...we are all here for re-programming. The ones who run the show are called reptilians....so just beware peeps. The way they control us is through modern medicine.....you just never know what those doctors are giving you in those shots. *queue music for the Twilight Zone* ahh, another conspiracy theorist i see.... i had my head in a lot of that stuff when i was younger. a lot of theory is actually conspiracy fact. your right, modern medicine has a lot to answer for. my views on immunization are a little alternate too....another spun out look at our existence........ everything has energy, and we all vibrate at different frequencies, depending on our level of experience on this earth.... or how many times we're been back again, for those that believe in reincarnation. It's our level of thinking, or how we experience our own daily reality that decides what dimensional plain we live on.... this will release us from the prison of our mind, and into those galaxies you talk about.maybe we are just renting our bodies....... .....yes.. i've had my medication this morning Ooh Coodi, have you read The Host by Stephenie Meyer (yes, the author of the Twilight series, who by the way, is a Morman). ;p sorry newkee, i haven't read that one..... maybe you can read it to me, i love bedtime stories
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14 years ago
I cant answer any questions at all.. I stipulated that about truth.. Quote: Of course, having recently viewed an interesting series on "HISTORY" channel, "Ancient Aliens" and further studies in some of the core ideas of the program, I find myself leaning more toward a scientific method of our begginings. Unquote: I did stipulate also.." OUR beginning" (even though I spelt it wrongly) not "THE beginning" As is read.. I also stated "I find myself leaning more toward a scientific method" (based on the information currently at my disposal) I never said "This is the truth and I will fckn kill you if you dont get it.." And of course, there is a difference between Primeval, and Pimordial: Added to the point that I NEVER stated we did NOT crawl from the Pimordial ooze.. *smiles* caveman
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14 years ago
Seems there is a link here cavey.....Aboriginal rock art depicting spacemen like figures,,,,,hmmm
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14 years ago
of late i'm finding I am drawn more and more toward Buddhism. The more I read and practice of it the more it makes sense. It feels more like philosophy rather than religon and for the moment that is were I am. Although the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (yes it really does exists... I didn't make it up) also has it's appeal.
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14 years ago
...what about the chickens? p.s. It is refered actally refered to as both primeval and primordial but I guess it depends on which side of town you're from. You say tomato,...
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14 years ago
I thought the last thing we needed was all out war over who's god was best but this has been a very civil thread (thus far, I hope I didn't jinx it). Do you think we should chance a thread on polotics?
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14 years ago
Seriously, where do I get an editor???
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14 years ago
... have you ever read up on the double-slit experiment (now, now forum peeps, no rude thoughts :P), where they've proven (some time ago) that a particle can be two different things, or perhaps in two places, at once? Or later experiments where physicists have found that you can move something by looking at it?All of this is at the sub-microscopic level of course, and the quandary seems to be that when particles combine in groups to make bigger objects, the rules governing particle behaviour change and become more and more like reality as we know it. The question remains for scientists, therefore, what is the size at which the rules change and the quantum mechanical behaviour is no longer possible? Or maybe even, does such a size not really exist, and it's only our understanding of how things work that limits what's possible?Centuries and even decades ago no-one would have believed the things that have now been proven (can anything ever actually be proven?) at the sub-microscopic level, so it does suggest that anything is possible, right?Ancient mysticism and philosophy, and in fact a lot of religions, seem to represent an intuitive knowing about the world, without the hard evidence to back it up. Science on the other hand looks for hard evidence and tends to ignore the other. I love the fact that we seem to be on the cusp of the merging of the two, where science is testing and validating much ancient philosophy, and that same philosophy is imbuing modern society with a greater, more human, more inclusive, spiritualism. I believe that anything's possible.In a nutshell, that's my religion :)
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14 years ago
I love your post xx
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14 years ago
Quoting 'lil_bit_angelic' ... have you ever read up on the double-slit experiment (now, now forum peeps, no rude thoughts :P), where they've proven (some time ago) that a particle can be two different things, or perhaps in two places, at once? Or later experiments where physicists have found that you can move something by looking at it?All of this is at the sub-microscopic level of course, and the quandary seems to be that when particles combine in groups to make bigger objects, the rules governing particle behaviour change and become more and more like reality as we know it. The question remains for scientists, therefore, what is the size at which the rules change and the quantum mechanical behaviour is no longer possible? Or maybe even, does such a size not really exist, and it's only our understanding of how things work that limits what's possible?Centuries and even decades ago no-one would have believed the things that have now been proven (can anything ever actually be proven?) at the sub-microscopic level, so it does suggest that anything is possible, right?Ancient mysticism and philosophy, and in fact a lot of religions, seem to represent an intuitive knowing about the world, without the hard evidence to back it up. Science on the other hand looks for hard evidence and tends to ignore the other. I love the fact that we seem to be on the cusp of the merging of the two, where science is testing and validating much ancient philosophy, and that same philosophy is imbuing modern society with a greater, more human, more inclusive, spiritualism. I believe that anything's possible.In a nutshell, that's my religion :)everything you speak about is all covered in the movie..... 'What the Bleep...down the rabbit hole'
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14 years ago
Picture an old style wanted poster on a light post - Wanted - Schrodingers CatDead and Aliveand another:Wanted - Schrodingers CatLast seen in a state of fluxLove the intellectual graffiti artists around here.(Schrodinger posed a problem with his mythical undead cat that he thought would prove quantum mechanics a bit absurd. It did, but it also proved to be correct, which had the unfortunate affect of making the world a lot stranger than we thought. Wikipedia is good for those interested).And for Jensman - Q. Why did the chicken cross the road?A. Whether the chicken crossed the road or the road crossed the chicken depends on your frame of reference.Same deal with the egg.(thanks to Einstein's relativity for that one)And for lil_bit_angelic - Anything is possible, but unfortunately we can only experience one possibility at a time. Good news is we appear to have some choice, and each time we make one we are choosing which reality we want to live in. Just keep choosing until you hit the right one.(see the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, which says we can only ever know either how fast something is going or where it is, not both, and which led to the double slit experiment. Following on was the Many-Worlds Interpretation which answered both this and the Schrodingers Cat problem by explaining that there are an infinite number of possible universes but that we poor humans can only be in one at a time).It's a very strange ride we are on, and the facts are much weirder than the fairy tales.Mr C
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14 years ago
...and think you have made sense of something that has left me in quandary for some time. | Quoting 'lil_bit_angelic'.... and the quandary seems to be that when particles combine in groups to make bigger objects, the rules governing particle behaviour change and become more and more like reality as we know it. The question remains for scientists, therefore, what is the size at which the rules change and the quantum mechanical behaviour is no longer possible? | *big booming voice from the clouds over cyberspace* | And thou shalt call it Facebook...now go forth and become virulent. | Don't leave your tags hanging out...you never know who's watching.
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14 years ago
Why did Jesus cross the road???
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14 years ago
I've seen it of course, some years ago :) It's the lay person's guide to the intersection between mysticism and quantum physics and a fantastic mind-opening program. I've introduced a few friends to it and been truly thrilled by their curiosity. I'm such a curious soul so I love to ponder, wonder, ask and share thoughts about srung things (thanks OP!!!). Some of the most cutting edge stuff is being done by CERN eg their experiments in the Hadron Collider. They have me a bit on the edge of my seat :)
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14 years ago
Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' ...and think you have made sense of something that has left me in quandary for some time. | Quoting 'lil_bit_angelic'.... and the quandary seems to be that when particles combine in groups to make bigger objects, the rules governing particle behaviour change and become more and more like reality as we know it. The question remains for scientists, therefore, what is the size at which the rules change and the quantum mechanical behaviour is no longer possible? | *big booming voice from the clouds over cyberspace* | And thou shalt call it Facebook...now go forth and become virulent. | Don't leave your tags hanging out...you never know who's watching. quandary had two a's (inappropriate possessive apostrophe, but without it just liked like as)!
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14 years ago
...and like both an inappropriate possession of a great aa's. | Quoting 'lil_bit_angelic'quandary had two a's (inappropriate possessive apostrophe, but without it just liked like as)! We can talk about the tt's later...time to fly, I hope the landing strip lights are on. I can fly "in the box" and certainly land in a fog guided by instinct and instruments...but let's face it, the glide into the hanger is much smoother if you can see along the way. | Light the candles...incoming all the way.
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14 years ago
Quoting 'Mac555' I'm a realist, i believe in things that can be proved not myths. Religions just a big con. It's like santa, we tell our kids he's real and they believ,e but at some point we tell them he's not real. Unfortuneatly no one tells the other mob that religions not real. Lies!! Of course he's real, I sit on his lap every year and he rewards me for being a bad.. I mean good girl Sheesh.. next thing you will trying to tell us that the Earth is round or something ;p
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14 years ago
Quoting 'lil_bit_angelic' ... have you ever read up on the double-slit experiment (now, now forum peeps, no rude thoughts :P), where they've proven (some time ago) that a particle can be two different things, or perhaps in two places, at once? Or later experiments where physicists have found that you can move something by looking at it?All of this is at the sub-microscopic level of course, and the quandary seems to be that when particles combine in groups to make bigger objects, the rules governing particle behaviour change and become more and more like reality as we know it. The question remains for scientists, therefore, what is the size at which the rules change and the quantum mechanical behaviour is no longer possible? Or maybe even, does such a size not really exist, and it's only our understanding of how things work that limits what's possible?Centuries and even decades ago no-one would have believed the things that have now been proven (can anything ever actually be proven?) at the sub-microscopic level, so it does suggest that anything is possible, right?Ancient mysticism and philosophy, and in fact a lot of religions, seem to represent an intuitive knowing about the world, without the hard evidence to back it up. Science on the other hand looks for hard evidence and tends to ignore the other. I love the fact that we seem to be on the cusp of the merging of the two, where science is testing and validating much ancient philosophy, and that same philosophy is imbuing modern society with a greater, more human, more inclusive, spiritualism. I believe that anything's possible.In a nutshell, that's my religion :) Quantum Entanglement, simulations, traditional religion and science go out the window and replaced by a merging of philosophy and theoretical physics... Maybe The Matrix was on to something ;p
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RHP User
14 years ago
I believe it was the chicken, because an egg cant orgasm
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14 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' Why did Jesus cross the road??? Because he was just a naughty boy.
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14 years ago
LOL! Best answer ever!!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Last post was re chicken and egg (still laughing!)
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14 years ago
Quoting 'chickcara' Quoting 'jensman1903' Why did Jesus cross the road??? Because he was just a naughty boy. | Figure it out...he was scared shitless by the cross, even on the road!
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14 years ago
Ha ha! Me? I'm confused! I was brought up a Catholic (you know....no sex before marriage, no birth control so sex isn't used for pleasure, it's used or reproduction only - although not many real Catholics really follow that in this day and age). However.....I'm more into spiritual where I just relax with it and enjoy!
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14 years ago
Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' Quoting 'chickcara' Quoting 'jensman1903' Why did Jesus cross the road??? Because he was just a naughty boy. | Figure it out...he was scared shitless by the cross, even on the road! So why do the Christians think Jesus would want to see crosses everywhere when he returns - perhaps that's why we're still waiting?Bill Hicks does a great bit on that one, but it was Monty Python than came to mind this morning.
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14 years ago
With the crap that dribbles out of Sandilands mouth these days, I guess it's not really a big deal but back then, I had no idea how he got away with it. "Why did Jesus cross the road?" ".....Because he was nailed to the chicken."
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14 years ago
why did Jesus cross the road,because unlike CM this morning he was without pier x Hugs H
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14 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' We were walking together, along the main street of Campbelltown, when he saw a middle aged couple from his bible study group and stopped to say hello. He made introductions then said, "This is the athiest I was telling you about." "Get it right, mate." I told him. "I'm not an athiest, I'm a hedonist." The woman asked, "What's a hedonist?" "Well, hedonism is the belief that the purpose of life is the pursuit of happiness." "Well, that's Jesus Christ." she told me. "No. That's Harley Davidson." I assured her. Quoting 'mooka' Bows in awe of the goddess DGT (and whilst on my knees has a quick peek up her toga - I have seen the light :D) jensman, this brought a tear of happiness in my eye, so much so i may change religion However mooka This brought lust and tingles to my nether regions If should you have a picture of this light you see, and is shared i may be blinded by it in turn follow it. Just let me know when the first cult meeting is, promise to behave and follow lawfully
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14 years ago
Quoting 'Heedlesshorseman' Quoting 'jensman1903' Quoting 'mooka' Bows in awe of the goddess DGT (and whilst on my knees has a quick peek up her toga - I have seen the light :D) jensman, this brought a tear of happiness in my eye, so much so i may change religion However mooka This brought lust and tingles to my nether regions If should you have a picture of this light you see, and is shared i may be blinded by it in turn follow it. Just let me know when the first cult meeting is, promise to behave and follow lawfully To restore light and happiness to blind the followers Can you see the glow now?
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14 years ago
Quoting 'D_G_T' Quoting 'Heedlesshorseman' Quoting 'jensman1903' Quoting 'mooka' Bows in awe of the goddess DGT (and whilst on my knees has a quick peek up her toga - I have seen the light :D) jensman, this brought a tear of happiness in my eye, so much so i may change religion However mooka This brought lust and tingles to my nether regions If should you have a picture of this light you see, and is shared i may be blinded by it in turn follow it. Just let me know when the first cult meeting is, promise to behave and follow lawfully To restore light and happiness to blind the followers Can you see the glow now? Loud and BRIGHT - BEAM ME UP SCOTTY we have a new found religion
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14 years ago
I was wondering when you would see it, I can take it down now
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14 years ago
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14 years ago
I'll believe it when I see it and right now DGT looks like the religion for me
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14 years ago
The passage of the bible that discourages masturbation is Genesis 38:7-11, which is story about when Judah's son, Er, died childless and his brother, Onan, was required to impregnate Er's widow. During sex, Onan withdrew and "spilled his seed," which displeased God, who eventually killed him. Onanism means "male masturbation" and "coitus interruptus."
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14 years ago
Well I've ridden the Harley so I guess I need a ride on DGT to compare and decide.
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14 years ago
the 'immoral' belief that;-forcing a victim to marry her rapist (Deut 22:28-29)-killing homosexuals (Lev20:13)-burning anyone to death who fornicates (Lev 21:19)-stoning people to death for blasphemy (Lev 24:10-16)-endorsing slavery (Lev 25:44-46)are wrong............or"Science"..........flies you to the moon....."Religion"..........flies you into buildings.....
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14 years ago
Totally Agree with you Mike and Shel more wars have been thought over religion than any other reason
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14 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903'Why did Jesus cross the road??? Because he saw Jehovah's Witnesses coming.
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14 years ago
My husband and I are atheists/realists. Don't care really what other peoples beliefs are as long as they don't care that we don't believe. My husband and I have very strong views on religion, but I don't think this is the forum to voice those views. We have Christian and Muslim friends and as long as everyone is respectful of everyone's viewpoints and just enjoys having fun in life, especially 'like minded friends' on RHP, it isn't an issue....talking about sex is much more fun... LOL
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