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Married men looking for extra fun than what they get at home. acceptable? not acceptable?
June 20 2011
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Letsgetcrazy09
15 years ago
Been done heaps of times, however you did ask, now bend over and lube up.........hehehehe JMOLets
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RHP User
15 years ago
I would say the only people who have the right to determine that are the three people involved. . Your wife - Would it be acceptable to her if for any reason she found out or if you unintentionally caught something and gave it to her? Those are real risks. . You - if you are questioning it yourself, how would proceeding make you feel? Are you willing to accept the above-mentioned risks involved? . The person you are having fun with - If you want it to be acceptable to them then you need to be honest with them. This part is a moot point as your profile states that you are married so it follows that the answer to the third point is 'yes', they will find it acceptable.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I saw figures on this the other day. Apparently a silverback forest gorrilla has sex every couple of hours with a mob of girly gorillas and he spends the rest of his time chasing off the other male gorillas in his midst who want to get their end wet.... Despite these efforts... more than 15% of the baby gorillas in the group are sired by one of the other males... those sluts!!Now.... we're not to know if the same kind of thing is going on in our little part of the forest and in fact there's plenty of evidence that shows that there's a whole lot of dads out there who are just as likely to be working their guts out and paying to raise children that aren't their own.... but that's life, man. I'd still rather be the dude that fucks all the women rather than the dude that hangs around behind the bushes for a sneaky shag on the sly..... so man up to it... a dude ought to have as many wives as he can handle and not be to surprised when the DNA tests come back. You reap what you sow.HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
If your wife says No to swinging, its your choice. Us as a couple reckon thats your bussiness and not ours! If you are unwilling to share your wife and thereby denying her the opputunity, thats unacceptable.
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RHP User
15 years ago
cheating is cheating men or woman This excuse the my other half doesnt understand me blah blah blah How people can look another person in the face and lie plus all this sleeping around and i find not a lot of people dont use condoms its just so easy with the website to cheat gone r the days of respect truth and caring about the person u lay down next to every night I dont and never will be apart of a cheating man had it done to me in the past want no part of it on here Problem is so many people except it and say its their problem Maybe if more people on this web said no to married people and letting them get away with it maybe just maybe one cheating person will go home and work on their marriage some would say it doesnt work like that they will go get it somewhere thats true but why make it easy for them and believe me there r a lots and lots of profiles saying they dont care if they r married and cheating they just want sex with people people on here couples woman u r helping these people cheat stand up and say no end of the day i dont agree with cheating want nothing to do with the people who r doing want noting to do with the people who r aiding them in their lies now i will get of my soap box ready for the backlash of i dont agree u dont know what u r talking about well i do i had it done to me quiet a few times
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RHP User
15 years ago
............they are getting any fun at home? The problem with this question is that it normally degenerates into a real shit fight and gets closed down. My personal veiwpoint is that it is not my business if a married man wants to play around. The only thing wrong with married men is married women. If they actually thoight a bit about thier husbands and realised that sex once every three or four weeks is not good then the man would not be seeking it else where. Most men will only go looking for what they are not getting at home. Now I know the general consenus is with couples that if your partner knows...then it is not cheating but it does not gel with me. Sleeping around is still sleeping around. I dont have an issue with it per se but it does and will get very ironic when the couples start leaping up and down about married men cheating. For me...it is one and the same. Please dont try to explain, I have had it explained ad nauseum....it is like cricket scores...something I am never ever going to understand!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' I'd still rather be the dude that fucks all the women rather than the dude that hangs around behind the bushes for a sneaky shag on the sly..... HugsStalky Oh really? I kinda thought you did both Gaz? Or is that only when you are trying to sneak up on the silverback forest gorilla... are they the ones with the target on their backside? Can't really miss can you. xox Meeks
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RHP User
15 years ago
Heehee Cheeky Meeky , smack that ass!!!!!!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
lmfao... ok both then... if I must.. jeese... satisfied!!..... But are you trying to get this post removed Meeks. :pHugsStalky Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'stalky' I'd still rather be the dude that fucks all the women rather than the dude that hangs around behind the bushes for a sneaky shag on the sly..... HugsStalky Oh really? I kinda thought you did both Gaz? Or is that only when you are trying to sneak up on the silverback forest gorilla... are they the ones with the target on their backside? Can't really miss can you. xox Meeks
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RHP User
15 years ago
Oh, bugger Stalky. Well I would if I could catch him :P So, Stalkers if you happen to see a sliver back gorilla in your yard... it is me in disguise. Don't be gentle. xxMeeks
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RHP User
15 years ago
By the way...... I don't think cheating is acceptable. I wouldn't like it if my partner cheated on me. However, having said that, I have been shocked at what some people think an acceptable amount of sex is, and that is including some of my friends. I wouldn't blame their husbands if they cheated, and they are still great husbands. xxMeeka
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RHP User
15 years ago
I spent 22 years in a monogamous relationship because that's that's what I expected from my ex. I'm not the slightest bit religious, but I do believe that we should do unto others as we expect them to do unto us.
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RHP User
15 years ago
It isn't the nicest thing to do if ur partner doesn't fill ur needs u have to ask yourself will I be happy doing the same old thing with them or do I want more sometimes u need to sit down and look thru the pros and cons it isn't always greener I can tell u for fact I wanted more and all I have now is nothing I wanted to go back but the damage is done so now I move forward so try to talk with ur partner and explore together it's the best way or leave them and try. :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Cheating is the easy part.... . Dealing with it is the difficult part....you know, the little voice inside your head that says "am I doing the right thing by the one I love?" . So unless you have a shitload of money or have the looks of Brad Pitt, she may wonder why you have stopped asking for sex so much (even though she may have continually rejected you)....and can you maintain the intimacy?....just be ready to explain. And when you explain, will you tell the truth or will you tell a lie? . As I said, dealing with it is the difficult part.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I play, my wife plays and we play and yes she has played with married guys whose wives do not know and looks at it philosophically that it takes two she doesn't want a relationship just sex. I concurwith the thoughts. If on the other hand the playmate stupidly thinks they are in l,ove with you then run. It is only sex and it is the cheater who has to live with it.
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RHP User
15 years ago
very funny thanks for the lol Quoting 'Meeka100' Oh, bugger Stalky. Well I would if I could catch him :P So, Stalkers if you happen to see a sliver back gorilla in your yard... it is me in disguise. Don't be gentle. xxMeeks
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RHP User
15 years ago
Maybe you shouldn't be married if you need to cheat. (Mr)
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RHP User
15 years ago
... and keeps covering the same tired ground. The trouble with cheating is it inflicts extreme emotional pain on most people at a very primal level, which can be extremely hard to deal with and take an unreasonable amount of time to bounce back from. It's probable that cheating advocates simple don't feel this themselves, so don't respect it on their partners, but this is one reason that I don't do it when in a relationship.However, at the end of the day, every relationship is made up of two people who define for themselves and in union what is right for them, so it's your call.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'foreverlove7985'Maybe you shouldn't be married if you need to cheat. (Mr) Ahh, how I love you (MR) Foreverlove! Cheating of any way, shape or form - is wrong. (MRS)
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RHP User
15 years ago
ok my wife plays with married men n she loves it she always asks first r u married n they always say yes or they have a partner she cums home n says to me well if they want to do this then there must b sumthing wrong at home at least i know bout it n she knows were i go n whom im with as i do her.she finds it a thrill n a turn on to have sum1 elses man...
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RHP User
15 years ago
I agree.. cheating is cheating.. But then all situations are different.. and only the 2 people who are in a rship know their own rship.. and.. how well you justify it to your self :) I have cheated, and i will in the future.. but it makes my relationship worth it.. i get my thrills else where, and come home and be a good housebitch to my husband (who incidentally, rarely has sex with me)
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RHP User
15 years ago
But yes, i think if cheating is going on.. there are issues in your rship..
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RHP User
15 years ago
I have been thinking about this more this afternoon... My question to you is... Are you prepared to get a divorce? Are you prepared to loose your wife? Because, at the end of the day, if you get caught - you will have to face the concequences, and quiet possibly pay this very harsh price. If I ever found that (MR) Foreverlove had cheated on me, then he would be out on his ass. There would be NO second chance - no matter what the circumstances. I don't really give a shit if 'you're not getting enough at home'... If you are married, you took those vows to your wife - Yeah, you remember those?!! - Being faithful is part of the vows... and you are to honour them and her! I absolutely agree with what (MR) Foreverlove wrote earlier... Perhaps you shouldn't be married? As for the women who seek out/sleep with married men (who's wives are unaware), I have one word for them. Homewreckers. They are just as much to blame as the men who cheat, IMO! (MRS)
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RHP User
15 years ago
I wish my life was as splendid as the comments on here. My life is not like a set of light where it is either red or green. It's forever flashing amber. I have tried talking about sex in quiet times, in anger. I have been to counseling alone. I have asked her to come. She refuses. I have written letters. The answer is the same" I know not intimate I just can't help it" I love you. I need you and want you. We have had sex 5 times in 3 years. I don't want to leave her. So I cheat. I often get called names on here but life is not always black and white. My say !!!
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Letsgetcrazy09
15 years ago
foreverlove One of the problems with saying you took those vows, especially if you said "forsaking all others" at your wedding, is that it is hypocritical when on a site like this wishing to play with others even if you and your husband agree. JMOLets
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' foreverlove One of the problems with saying you took those vows, especially if you said "forsaking all others" at your wedding, is that it is hypocritical when on a site like this wishing to play with others even if you and your husband agree. JMOLets Not really hypocritical, when you actually think about the situation. We're talking about CHEATING here... not SWINGING. Swinging (as a couple), is not being unfaithful - it is something you are exploring together and BOTH KNOW about. But if the Husband goes out, and fucks someone BEHIND his Wifes back, that IS unfaithful - and going against his vows to her! P.S. Don't think anyone uses the 'generic' vows these days... so I believe it would be rare to witness the words 'forsaking all others' in a ceremony today. (MRS)
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RHP User
15 years ago
its ok as long as all parties are aware of whats happening. I the wife does not know well than i would never go there. It has to be open. Simple. Imagine if it happened to you is my motto
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RHP User
15 years ago
This time I think I will be the first to pull up the couch, fark the popcorn.....going for jaffas (they make a more satisfying sound when they hit the target). Got the beer fridge well stocked with a good selection of drinks. Carry on!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Cheating is the wrong choice. If its something you want and you have spoken to your wife and she's not keen then you need to figure out what means more to you... random sex or your wedding vows?
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RHP User
15 years ago
LMAO
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RHP User
15 years ago
So far it shows there is no definitive answer and it boils down to whether you can live with it or not and what the repercussions are. How many ppl are on RHP without partners knowledge? Is that cheating? Is going to an Adult shop and reading the articles in a magazine cheating or watching porn and getting off on it cheating? My wife and I have played many times with guys like Good Kinky and we have no issues, my wife has played with married guys I have played with married guys and yes we do dread the irate phone call. We love sex and we do not cheat on each other we have healthy open relationship we paly togehter as well. In times gone by it was quite acceptable for the Lord of the Manor to visit a brothel as long as there was discretion. And now we think we are in a more open society. Sex is Sex love is for who you love, You can have Sex with who you love and make love with who you love, but you can never make sweet sensual love with a sex buddy. PS Good Kinky when you comiong over next??
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' foreverlove One of the problems with saying you took those vows, especially if you said "forsaking all others" at your wedding, is that it is hypocritical when on a site like this wishing to play with others even if you and your husband agree. JMOLets Cheating is deception (without the consent and blessing of the other person) The vows do say....FORSAKING ALL OTHERS l ergo......you must not play with others according to your vows in the strictest sense. If couples want the debate on cheating being okay if thier partner knows and the wedding vows meaning more than just sex, then let us hope they wrote thier own vows and left out the part about fidelity...aka...forsaking all others. l Like I said before....it is like trying to understand cricket scores...never gonna happen. okay retreating back to the couch now.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' The vows do say....FORSAKING ALL OTHERS l And the bit about , Love , Honour and Obey him? He knows best and gives her permission to swing along with She gives him permission..allways together.
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Letsgetcrazy09
15 years ago
FB My point exactly............glass houses and all that stuff.......... Pulls up beside FB on the couch, brings a nice red, choc top icecream, jaffas and settles in for the show....... The Devils Advocate
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RHP User
15 years ago
The OP asked if it was acceptable to cheat and still be a 'good husband', so it would depend on what you consider a 'good husband' to be. I dont think many women would have 'someone who will cheat on me and try to get a bit on the side' on their list of 'good husband' traits (Mr)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'GoodKinkyfun'I wish my life was as splendid as the comments on here. My life is not like a set of light where it is either red or green. It's forever flashing amber. I have tried talking about sex in quiet times, in anger. I have been to counseling alone. I have asked her to come. She refuses. I have written letters. The answer is the same" I know not intimate I just can't help it" I love you. I need you and want you. We have had sex 5 times in 3 years. I don't want to leave her. So I cheat. I often get called names on here but life is not always black and white. My say !!! i have read what u said n hun i dont blame u at all.a man gotta do what a man gotta do.if u not getting at home well no wonder u go find sex from sum1 else.im always asking my hubby all the time n he tells me to go play with others it has cum to a point were i have gone n got a fuck bubby n i dont care if he is married..he has told me, he has b honset n thats what i like bout him.
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RHP User
15 years ago
What the heart dont know, the mind dont grieve over. l A married friend of mine told me once that it is always best to tell the truth but if you must lie, make it a damn big, outrageous lie....then no one believes you anyway. l The words "obey" have long since been written out of the marriage vows so no longer apply.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Never_enough69 wrote: Is it acceptable to find some fun outside of home but yet be a good husband?Surely the only two people on earth qualified to answer that question are you and your wife? As you can clearly see from the responses, the answer differs for everyone... but then again, you're only after the answer for yourself, right?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Seriously, All these women who dont give it up at home need to get a life, and realise that their men are going to go elsewhere. I think that above all else you are a person who deserves to do what it right for yourself, so if you have wants and needs that are not being fulfilled at home, no matter how hard u try u should just do the deed. If you are happy with every thing else and love the person you are with, then getting the sexual desire and satisfaction discreetly outside the relationship, as long as you are not taking away from your partner is definately OK. Whether you are a man or a woman.(I am a woman with a ridiculously high libido)........ If theres something you want but you dont get, then if you get from someone else then why not?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Cheating is not cool at all. If you are not happy with what your getting at home and it has got to the point your relationship is suffering you need to talk to your partner and discuss the pros and cons of getting what you want elsewhere. If you dont have permission to go get it some where else it is cheating and NOT at all cool.
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RHP User
15 years ago
My ex-husband travelled extensively overseas for work & for long periods of time....I gave him an option...if you want to play fine but play safe & talk to me about it. I didn't want a blow by blow account just some honesty....He was happy for me to play with girls in his absence which was appreciated & respected - no person is an island & we all have needs. We had what was a fun & healthy sex life when he was home...bit of vanilla & a bit of the kind of ice-cream you can't pre-nounce. Time went by nicely until I get a call from a somewhat cross women telling me of his exploits with her...super when he is on the other side of the world...Truth came out that he had not been honest for nearly 10 years...I know Im blonde but love can be blind. Monogamy is not the norm in the animal kingdom but we are slightly more progressed than those sexed up lions & lionesses damn! A few moments to be honest can go a long way...to protecting emotions & also potential physical issues.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Wifey here if there is a fantacy i cant tend to at home im more then happy for ashley to go else were. Then again we communicate everything to each other and i dont consider it cheating if i know. does it make him a bad husband no! im sure if i wanted to he would let me. We will be the old couple that reminiss on the days when we..... not the couple thats left guessing :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
may just be the worlds second biggest conspiracy theory, after religion that is.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Uless you have an open marrage, it's cheating and deceptive and wrong. That said, if the life style of swinging suits you and not your partner then you need to make a choice, if the choice is to sleep around then you need to talk to your partner so he/she can make a choice. I am lucky my wife shares the lifestyle with me, we have trust, respect and enjoy play together and alone but thats us and we spent years talking and comming to that result. What I cannot undertand are those looking on a swingers site for Mr right, I think those are the peeps in the wrong place. Sure you may just meet the person of our dreams on here, but they may also be part of our not so monoganous lifestyle and once a swinger.....?
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RHP User
15 years ago
well depends if your partner has a major disability and rather then hurt them you go about it in a privite manor .other then that go find some1 that fits your ways and life style or be single have \enough courage to be honest
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RHP User
15 years ago
I have been involved with married guys who says they are not getting it at home....... my reply when asked if i am ok with that is - thats your problem........ they know what they are missing out on (some are genuine in stating this!) I dont want to marry them............. sometimes this is better than single guys as they can get all serious and there are no hassles with married guys.......... but each to their own and they are the ones that have to be able to accept what they have done and not feel guilty about it.........Thats just my view............
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hmm I think I came to the wrong place.. I didnt realise it was going to be an in depth discussion on who is right and who is wrong.My personal opinion( if it counts) is if it hurts no one, then it cant be wrong. Im happily married but we are both business professionals owning 4 businesses between us and spend long periods apart (been married 15yrs) and we have adopted the attitude, that unknown is good, as long as you always go home to the one you truly love. I know some are going to call me this and that but hey, lifes short, and it can happen any time, we are born to be social animals and need company of some kind. and yes I talk to my wife daily on skype for hours on end and we do have a good life but circumstances preside and we still live our lives.
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RHP User
15 years ago
If you have the guilts about "cheating" why did u sign up on this site?.....could it be considered "cheating" if one partner goes outside the relationship for something other than sex...i.e. a meal or getting washing/ironing done? If either partner has no interest in housework for example, they get someone in to do it. How is it different in regards to sex? If hubby's a pen pusher and doesn't wanna know about a blocked dunny, get a plumber in...doesn't mean it's grounds for divorce. Similarly if hubby's not tappin the mrs often enough, get some outside help. Wifey's happy, hubby hasn't had to "do" something he's got little interest in, nobody's cranky, relationship keeps on trickin'.
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RHP User
15 years ago
If you your wife and the third party agree then there is no problem but if you deceive either your wife or the third party then you are taking away their freedom of choice and that is totally unacceptable.
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RHP User
15 years ago
From my personal point of view and experince everyones cirimstances and reasons for looking for a bit on the side are different, if as a couple you have a very happy , loving and sexual realationship you can be blinkered to what is really happening in a lot of other realationships out there!! I was in a marriage where over the last five yrs i was lucky if i had sex half a dozen times a year, I tried everything from reading books on how to revive your marriage and your sex life to having apointments with a therapist, but after months of giving my all and with not one inkling of a responce from my wife , you just give up in the end after so many rejections. During this time not once did i cheat and in hidsight i was a bloody idiot, i ended up leaving and have never looked back , shit i reckon i had more sex in the last 18 mths than the last 6/7 yrs So i say dont condone someones actions until you know their cirimstances,thers a hell of a lot of people out there in the same boat as i was , male and female .
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RHP User
15 years ago
I don't judge...... it's their issue not mine .I respect their Partners position in the Relationship. I Do Not become a "Fuck Buddy "to some self absorbed Married Guy who thinks his Cock is Magic and wants to spread his seed with as many Females as Possible....That I don't find acceptable ..I don't bother with them..... This is acceptable to me.. I have shared myself with 3 times with Married Guys for 1 reason only .... They Love their Partners !!who have been reluctant to share sexual intimacy with them ,either too tired, lack of Communication or Menopausal. Their Partners feel harrassed when they keep wanting sex ...the Guys feel neglected unloved have low self esteem, so go looking for an emotional fix tho; not really sex.that's the bandaid on the open wound....I provide an outlet ie Sex /Emotional Therapy .Its aim is to bring balance to their Relationships and low self esteem, so sex isn't the focus, but repairing their Relationship. is. They know why I am doing this .I expect them to focus fully on their Partner and Me to help them thro; this they stop seeking .I give them suggestions on how to bring back the spark with their Partner and in theRelationship in general and relieve their sexual tension... share a re-energizing massage, Spiritual Councelling it brings balance by removing Neg; energy replacing it with Pos. I'm very Happy to say it has worked very well...All the Couples are sharing stable fulfilling Relationships once more .:) Lol Lu
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'JustEnough' Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' The vows do say....FORSAKING ALL OTHERS l And the bit about , Love , Honour and Obey him? He knows best and gives her permission to swing along with She gives him permission..allways together. We wouldn't be having this conversation if "he knows best" Sometimes the hubby is a complete TWUNT. (as seen here a few times over) We would question the validility of any statement you make...a partner thats 99 ....60 years older than you, no photo and a locked profile. Love you too and see we have not resorted to name calling!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Every person's circumstance is different, so there is no black & white. Personally I believe it is a hell of a lot to ask 2 people to remain happy together for 10, 20, 30 yrs. I know I am a different person to what I was 10yrs ago. Don't get me started on the religion thing. People like to bring out that little chestnut when it suits them & conveniently forget other times. Treat people with respect. If everyone is consenting & enjoying themselves - have fun. Nobody knows the full story of a relationship, especially a long-term one, so best not to judge others!
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RHP User
15 years ago
What does she expect? The guys gotta get it somewhere! She is totally robbing him of a sex life, she's saying "you can't have sex with anyone else, oh and you can't have sex with me either." She has the right to stop screwing him, but she doesn't have the right to rob him of a sex life altogether. So there is his licence to go screw other women.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Charles_Dickens'we are all born into the world and we all die and leave the world..... what happens in between doesn't really matter.... the world will not stop for anyone..... enjoy life while you can..... That's very narcissistic! I prefer to think that we have a responsibility to ourselves to live in a way that we can be proud of and to leave the world as good or better than we found it. It's not a religious thing, more just honouring the human race - those who came before us and those who'll follow.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'JustEnough' Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'JustEnough' Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' The vows do say....FORSAKING ALL OTHERS l And the bit about , Love , Honour and Obey him? He knows best and gives her permission to swing along with She gives him permission..allways together. We wouldn't be having this conversation if "he knows best" Sometimes the hubby is a complete TWUNT. (as seen here a few times over) We would question the validility of any statement you make...a partner thats 99 ....60 years older than you, no photo and a locked profile. Love you too and see we have not resorted to name calling! Oh how i've missed the friendly banter. hehehehe
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'JustEnough' Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'JustEnough' Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' The vows do say....FORSAKING ALL OTHERS l And the bit about , Love , Honour and Obey him? He knows best and gives her permission to swing along with She gives him permission..allways together. We wouldn't be having this conversation if "he knows best" Sometimes the hubby is a complete TWUNT. (as seen here a few times over) We would question the validility of any statement you make...a partner thats 99 ....60 years older than you, no photo and a locked profile. Love you too and see we have not resorted to name calling!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Definitely not acceptable to cheat, in marriage or a relationship! If you are not getting enough sex in a marriage/relationship then its time to get out or expand your horizons with extra curricular activities that involve you both. (porn, 3somes, adult parties) Of course you should try and resolve things but there are some things that cannot be fixed no matter the effort. Cheating does not include having sex with others if your spouse is in approval of you seeing others for sex!I for one would rather see my husband "serviced" than spend my life avoiding sex or arguing about it, (IF I was not able to provide what he desired)... for some couples being sexually in sync is a very hard job that needs constant effort.THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR CHEATING!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'JustEnough' Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'JustEnough' Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'goodgirlssayplz' Quoting 'Letsgetcrazy09' The vows do say....FORSAKING ALL OTHERS l And the bit about , Love , Honour and Obey him? He knows best and gives her permission to swing along with She gives him permission..allways together. We wouldn't be having this conversation if "he knows best" Sometimes the hubby is a complete TWUNT. (as seen here a few times over) We would question the validility of any statement you make...a partner thats 99 ....60 years older than you, no photo and a locked profile. Love you too and see we have not resorted to name calling! Oh how i've missed the friendly banter. hehehehe So what its only sex he is not going to marry the Shela....Dont you agree? Because he has something nice like you at home
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RHP User
15 years ago
Oh so boring!! do we have to go there again? cheating is part of human nature, some will some won't, and some piddle arsed little thread isn't going to change anythin, communication is the thing, respect in yourself and your partner, and respect other's choices, we don't walk in their shoes or sleep in their bed, condemnation eats your soul! make your own mind up!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
For those of you saying sex outside of marriage is cheating, you first have to ask what sort of marriage is there in the first place. By and large, most marriages are in fact little more than two business partners managing a household who very occasionally have sex, this goes on for years, maybe decades until, one or the other leaves or dies. This is reality and you people have to understand that this site and the people on it including their opinions are not normal, most people don't go to sites like this and advertise themselves for sex, if they did Redhotpie would have 10 million members.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'jpd80' For those of you saying sex outside of marriage is cheating, you first have to ask what sort of marriage is there in the first place. By and large, most marriages are in fact little more than two business partners managing a household who very occasionally have sex, this goes on for years, maybe decades until, one or the other leaves or dies. This is reality and you people have to understand that this site and the people on it including their opinions are not normal, most people don't go to sites like this and advertise themselves for sex, if they did Redhotpie would have 10 million members. I was monogamous for 22 years and I didn't start to play until I had left my marriage. There are all manner of people here - we're just a slice of the wider community. Suggesting that we're somehow deviant is insulting and incorrect.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Charles_Dickens' we are all born into the world and we all die and leave the world..... what happens in between doesn't really matter.... the world will not stop for anyone..... enjoy life while you can..... The world may not stop but what happens can and does have devistating concequences. One person can influence the lives of many. Butterfly wings. l l Quoting 'jpd80' you people have to understand that this site and the people on it including their opinions are not normal, Who are you calling not normal. I am normal. Normal for me. Most people on this site are just average people out to have a little fun. To class them as not normal is a crass insult. most people don't go to sites like this and advertise themselves for sex, if they did Redhotpie would have 10 million members. No they sit at home and whinge about not getting any!
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RHP User
15 years ago
a lot of people have differant thoughts and morals about this subject Me personal its not on playing around behind your partners back without there consent... guess im just a bit to much O'l school... But and i do mean BUT... have you taken into considerations the down side of cheating Partner gets upset Partner files for divorce Partner takes house, money, etc and most importantly the things you luv the most... your KIDS n the DOG now is it worth it ???
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RHP User
15 years ago
everyones situation is different. I feel caught in not getting what i want at home and pretty severe guilts if I do wander. Just how it is. Both wife and I decided it isn't happening between the sheets but what do you do? its probably quite natural for some couples to lose interest in each other sexually, while everything else ticks along well. haven't found any luck on this site yet...but its early days...!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'board_dude'If you have the guilts about "cheating" why did u sign up on this site?.....could it be considered "cheating" if one partner goes outside the relationship for something other than sex...i.e. a meal or getting washing/ironing done? If either partner has no interest in housework for example, they get someone in to do it. How is it different in regards to sex? If hubby's a pen pusher and doesn't wanna know about a blocked dunny, get a plumber in...doesn't mean it's grounds for divorce. Similarly if hubby's not tappin the mrs often enough, get some outside help. Wifey's happy, hubby hasn't had to "do" something he's got little interest in, nobody's cranky, relationship keeps on trickin'. jove your way of thinking and putting it so simply into words .. so factual ..
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RHP User
15 years ago
The reality for a lot of married guys that cheat is that once menopause hits your partner it is all over folks. While your wife might be content to never have sex again it is pretty tough on the guy who is still as keen as. Why is it that the majority of people think that there is something strange about guys who renounce sex for their religion but expect the general guy in the street to live like a monk just because his partner has lost all desire for sex. And for those that will say that there are other ways for a woman to satisfy a guy without penetration consider this. any sexual activity that is done without passion is just a wank. That is, an act of release. I can have one of those anytime. The thing that is missing is the hot, sweaty bodies, the passion and the release. That is why I play away.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'markat26' The reality for a lot of married guys that cheat is that once menopause hits your partner it is all over folks. While your wife might be content to never have sex again it is pretty tough on the guy who is still as keen as. They have spent many years with this woman. Love her to bits. Everything else is working BUT sex. Why do they need to break up a perfectly good and functioning life for sex? Talk to her? You try and talk to a menopausal women......and retain your balls. lol. The man is going to lose out any way you look at it. Get a divorce? Lose half if what you have worked for, the respect of your kids and your best friend that you have been with for thirt years. Yes he is going to lose all of this if he is caught...BUT he has to get caught first. By the way, menopause does not affect ALL women like this. With some, it is the opposite and they cant get enough.
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RHP User
15 years ago
we all live by our own moral code this will vary from person to personi wont pass judgment on other way of code and expect the same i do what i do i can live with that if the person i invite to join me does not share my moral code then they are not the person i will play with its that simple really
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'jpd80' For those of you saying sex outside of marriage is cheating, you first have to ask what sort of marriage is there in the first place. By and large, most marriages are in fact little more than two business partners managing a household who very occasionally have sex, this goes on for years, maybe decades until, one or the other leaves or dies. This is reality and you people have to understand that this site and the people on it including their opinions are not normal, most people don't go to sites like this and advertise themselves for sex, if they did Redhotpie would have 10 million members. I was monogamous for 22 years and I didn't start to play until I had left my marriage. There are all manner of people here - we're just a slice of the wider community. Suggesting that we're somehow deviant is insulting and incorrect. Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'Charles_Dickens' we are all born into the world and we all die and leave the world..... what happens in between doesn't really matter.... the world will not stop for anyone..... enjoy life while you can..... The world may not stop but what happens can and does have devistating concequences. One person can influence the lives of many. Butterfly wings. l l Quoting 'jpd80' you people have to understand that this site and the people on it including their opinions are not normal, Who are you calling not normal. I am normal. Normal for me. Most people on this site are just average people out to have a little fun. To class them as not normal is a crass insult.Oh dear, you've taken offense where none is intended. Normal is a hard word to define, maybe I should have said average people - the kind that do the same repetitive thing day after day and never break the cycle and take a chance to fill their lives with good stuff.No, WE are not average people, because WE decided to take the plunge and do something differently.most people don't go to sites like this and advertise themselves for sex, if they did Redhotpie would have 10 million members. No they sit at home and whinge about not getting any!And by your comment you are dissociating yourself from that large community group.So does that make you and I and others on here not normal...hmmm?My point is this, because WE choose not to do that makes US not normal. Quoting 'markat26' The reality for a lot of married guys that cheat is that once menopause hits your partner it is all over folks. While your wife might be content to never have sex again it is pretty tough on the guy who is still as keen as. Why is it that the majority of people think that there is something strange about guys who renounce sex for their religion but expect the general guy in the street to live like a monk just because his partner has lost all desire for sex. And for those that will say that there are other ways for a woman to satisfy a guy without penetration consider this. any sexual activity that is done without passion is just a wank. That is, an act of release. I can have one of those anytime. The thing that is missing is the hot, sweaty bodies, the passion and the release. That is why I play away. Quoting 'markat26' The reality for a lot of married guys that cheat is that once menopause hits your partner it is all over folks. While your wife might be content to never have sex again it is pretty tough on the guy who is still as keen as. Why is it that the majority of people think that there is something strange about guys who renounce sex for their religion but expect the general guy in the street to live like a monk just because his partner has lost all desire for sex. And for those that will say that there are other ways for a woman to satisfy a guy without penetration consider this. any sexual activity that is done without passion is just a wank. That is, an act of release. I can have one of those anytime. The thing that is missing is the hot, sweaty bodies, the passion and the release. That is why I play away.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'markat26' The reality for a lot of married guys that cheat is that once menopause hits your partner it is all over folks. While your wife might be content to never have sex again it is pretty tough on the guy who is still as keen as. Why is it that the majority of people think that there is something strange about guys who renounce sex for their religion but expect the general guy in the street to live like a monk just because his partner has lost all desire for sex. And for those that will say that there are other ways for a woman to satisfy a guy without penetration consider this. any sexual activity that is done without passion is just a wank. That is, an act of release. I can have one of those anytime. The thing that is missing is the hot, sweaty bodies, the passion and the release. That is why I play away. Well said, If i could have had my time over, I would have differed to your post and never posted on this thread.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'HotSexyChilli'Therefore, being a good husband, Never Enough joins RHP and ensures his physical bodily needs are met quietly on the side, so that his wife will get everything she wants from their continued marriage, that being pleasant longevity.If he was a bad husband Never Enough would allow the emotional tension and angst to build to a point where he loses all emotional intimacy with his wife resulting in them living as virtual strangers or he divorces his wife." A very eloquently put case from his side, but do you really think that she would see it the same way? "I cheated and lied about it to save our marriage" might work as a defence occasionally, but plenty of women would succumb to feelings of betrayal, anger and embarrassment. Many wouldn't buy the "I did it for us, honey" line.Also, a lack of sex is often an indicator of a lack of general intimacy in a marriage. Sex outside a marriage lacking intimacy will often fulfil more than just physical needs for a man - under those circumstances, there's a reasonable chance of an emotional connection forming too. Once that line is crossed, it's got to be tough to continue to believe that he's doing it to save the marriage, no matter how good his intentions had been at the start. It's very dangerous and almost totally out of his control.Finally, I was monogamous for 22 years. I find the suggestion that I was a bad husband because I didn't cheat a tad harsh...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Perhaps mrs Neverenough just doesn't like sex with mr Neverenough because he is not very good at it. Perhaps she has been fucking the postman, milkman and the guy who cleans the pool. Perhaps all three at the same time! But due to the obvious lack of communication and that mr Neverenough spends too much time trolling for strays on RHP and looking for reassurance in adult forums, he is unaware. (Mr)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'foreverlove7985' Perhaps mrs Neverenough just doesn't like sex with mr Neverenough because he is not very good at it. Perhaps she has been fucking the postman, milkman and the guy who cleans the pool. Perhaps all three at the same time! But due to the obvious lack of communication and that mr Neverenough spends too much time trolling for strays on RHP and looking for reassurance in adult forums, he is unaware. Perhaps you're presenting a strawman argument with self righteousness to belittle the poster,this site should be about tolerance but if you want to start moralizing in the middle of a gang bangplease feel free to continue...
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RHP User
15 years ago
women to me are like cars yes i have a daily driver its suits most of my needs but sometimes i see another car that i just wanna drive i dont want to own it just a few drives and if i really like it i will continue with a few drives now and then if not thats fine i will find another to drive rember driving the same car everyday can get mudane you know everything it does and dont do
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RHP User
15 years ago
People,I did not mean to insult anyone on this site by my suggestions regarding normality, something I consider groundhogs day boring existance..If I have insulted anyone here, I unreservedly apologise, especially to the posters immediately above..... I came onto this site thinking that I wanted something but since talking to female members on "the other side of the fence" so to speak, I have come to understand myself better and that my needs are more spiritual than physical. It's hard when you've been through so much with someone, I connect much better with older women who no doubt have been through heaps in their lives, a lifetime's experience that 20 somethings and 30 somethings just can't comprehend yet.I may or may not cheat on my wife, I try not to judge other people because I know nothing of their situation, all I ask is that members here keep an open mind about other's lifestyle choices. People do the strangest things and in the end I may find that what I was looking for is completely different to what I set out to find...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'asupervisor' women to me are like cars yes i have a daily driver its suits most of my needs but sometimes i see another car that i just wanna drive i dont want to own it just a few drives and if i really like it i will continue with a few drives now and then if not thats fine i will find another to drive rember driving the same car everyday can get mudane you know everything it does and dont do Hahahahahahahahahahaha! You gotta be feeling the love and respect here ladies!This one's a keeper!
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RHP User
15 years ago
is wanking one off cheating if thinking of someone else ????? is thinking of another when in the midst of passion with ones wife cheating ???? how far does one have to go before its cheating Ok let me have it PLEASE Andy xxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'fifi55'If you your wife and the third party agree then there is no problem but if you deceive either your wife or the third party then you are taking away their freedom of choice and that is totally unacceptable. HEAR HEAR IM WITH YOU FIFI
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'asupervisor'women to me are like cars yes i have a daily driver its suits most of my needs but sometimes i see another car that i just wanna drive i dont want to own it just a few drives and if i really like it i will continue with a few drives now and then if not thats fine i will find another to drive rember driving the same car everyday can get mudane you know everything it does and dont do Does your car know you're seeing another car?? (MRS)
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RHP User
15 years ago
I usually deal with the case of the guy with kinky tendencies whose wife is so vanilla that she won't even entertain the idea of anything but missionary position once a month if he is lucky. A lot of my clients are married and while I don't provide sex as part of my services I do send them away happy men. Are they cheating? Yes I suppose they are but only because they don't get at home what they get from me. I don't judge these guys as they are fulfilling an inner craving that straight sex can't satisfy. On the other hand, if the guy is getting it regularly at home and simply wants more then that is not acceptable. If you're bored you should try something different at home before looking elsewhere.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Well read most of these posts with interest as I am new to this "Outside" of the marriage game. I am 46 and untill a couple of years ago had not had sex with anyone other than my husband. Yep he was my first and untill then only. He had a bad football injury a couple of years ago, playing beyond when he should have called it a day and it affects him even now physically, both in bed and out of it. He is great and does a lot of other things to keep me satisfied and by the by it has been great. 2 years ago he arranged a "Massage" for me with a gigalo. In thye envelope he put the correct change for the charge if I had just a massage but also enough to cover the extra's if I wanted. We had discussed it of course and I was unsure of what to do even with his assurances that either option was fine by him. Needless to say one thing led to another and I spent all his money.lol. It was wonderfull but after the first session I sat on the bed wondering what I had done, afraid of the step I had taken but when he returned to the room, we layed on the bed spooning and had sex again. It felt wonderfull, but still somehow not quite right and I was worried about my partners reaction. I paged him and he came back to the motel (After, lets call him Aaron, had left) and It was with some trepidation that I answered the door. He was great and put me at ease asking me if I had enjoyed my time and not trying to get every last detail out of me. We then went out to dinner and spoke about lots of stuff but not what had happened, through all this he was attentive and his usual self. When we got back to the hotel we went to bed and spoke about what had happened, he was so supportive that I told him more than I though I would and sensing my feelings he didn't insist or seem to want sex himself at that time and we slept in each others arms. The next day we awoke and had breakfast in our room followed by a fantastic bout of making love, I felt wonderfull and guilty at the same time. He has arranged this once more for me in the past 18months and it was just as good, even better than the first time as I relaxed much easier into the situation. Aaron is bigger than my partner and combined with his athletic nature the sex was much different to what I normally experience. Although It has been offered again I have declined as I am confused as to whether this is something I really want to do. I love the feeling and emotions drawn out by having this fantastic sex but find it difficult to "arrange" something, its strange I know but you cant change what you cant change.lol. That is why I am here, we think that maybe if I can meet someone who is tall and a good lover here I may find it easier to relax and enjoy my time. There are many fantasy situations we have discussed and he is happy for me to play as long as he thinks I am safe. We have discussed many things such as him being there etc and I feel comfortable that I am aware of any boundaries or issues that may arise. He doesnt feel any issue with being their but has said on several occassions that he feels this this may limit my enjoyment or ability to relax and that means he probably wouldnt want to be there. I really dont know and am window shopping at the moment however I can sympathise with many comments on here as I feel both sides, I dont get as much or as physical sex as I would like but I also feel that maybe I shouldnt enjoy it so much. Sound confusing, dont worry it can be. I am happy that my partner is my constant through all this and that I have his full support. All the best to everyone Lyn.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'asupervisor' women to me are like cars yes i have a daily driver its suits most of my needs but sometimes i see another car that i just wanna drive i dont want to own it just a few drives and if i really like it i will continue with a few drives now and then if not thats fine i will find another to drive rember driving the same car everyday can get mudane you know everything it does and dont do My daily drive is a turbo charged WRX. If I keep off boost it gives good fuel economy but when I put my foot down it goes like a bat out of hell. I also take it out on the skidpan at Eastern Creek and will soon take it out on the race track for my first super sprint. If I ever find that driving it gets "mundane" I will make a few adjustments and modifications to keep things interesting. I think that if you get the right car in the first place you won't get bored with it.If women were like cars we would leak oil once a month and only talented drivers would get us into top gear.
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RHP User
15 years ago
People will always feel strongly on this topic one way or another. There are many arguments for and against, and at the end of the day you would need to look at an individual situation before you can comment.I know many people who have cheated whom i would say have done the wrong thing, their partner has been there for them completely, sexually but they considered them stupid because it was easy and there was a lack of respect, not a relationship issue. This is an act of an asshole! I once thought that i would never been in the situation I am, so i will ask all those who say i should follow blind faith to answer this simple piece of advice for me and answer this question. Once you know my situation.I have been married for almost 3 years, i did not have sex on my wedding night, i did not have sex on my honeymoon, i have been turned down for sex many many times over the last 3 years with perhaps only 5 or 6 successful and very unexciting results.To those that ask, why did we get married, well we used to have sex alot, and we moved in with her parents for 18 months while we saved for a house. During this time, being in her parents house she became sexually withdrawn, i assumed it would recover after we got our own place and married. This all happened, the return of sex did not.This stress over time has put our relationship on the rocks, i have had the conversation as bluntly as you could with her friend and put it in writing, if i don't get sex i will end up being one of those men who do in quietly and secretly, i don't want to but i can not live without. after this i have waited over a year. i have reminded regularly. In asking for sex i have been told to go and pursue other people, although it was more in challenge during argument than as permission, but an acknowledgement of the problem.At our core we seem to be very different people, she is obsessed with social gossip, music and crappy tv. I on the otherhand play games, troll the internet and would rather watch discovery science than the kardations! There is ultimately a very large IQ difference between us, but i mean that in a non derogatory manner. My interest has always been in learning and discovery of all things while she has focused on the cute and shiny. Don't ask me what band or actor that is, i'll never have a clue.Together we make an odd yin/yang, completely opposite but we fit together. We have a beautiful puppy we both love and a nice home that neither of us can afford to keep ourselves. Separation would mean that we would have to fight for our dog and loose our home we have sacrificed everything for. But this is a limbo and cannot continue without some form of release.So members of Redhotpie who think Married men who sleep around are bastards! what is a sensible (condom wearing) non silverbacked gorilla supposed to do? I do not wish to get divorced (although this seems to be the way the river is flowing), i would be happy for my wife to seek what she wanted if she didn't get what she wanted from me, but I clean what i should, i work hard to bring home money, i make her cups of tea whenever she desires, i carry her to bed when she falls asleep on the couch, i kill the spiders, fix her car, mow the lawns, take out the trash, make cocktails for her friends when they come over, i run her bath, bring her shampoo when it runs out and drive down to get tampax because she someone cant remember that you need them every month and refuses to buy them until its too late and yet I cannot get the 1 thing i would like in return.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Svetlana.... you are hilarious. Ooh I just love your Russian accent baby. hahahahaxxMeeka
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'secretaff'People will always feel strongly on this topic one way or another. There are many arguments for and against, and at the end of the day you would need to look at an individual situation before you can comment. I know many people who have cheated whom i would say have done the wrong thing, their partner has been there for them completely, sexually but they considered them stupid because it was easy and there was a lack of respect, not a relationship issue. This is an act of an asshole! I once thought that i would never been in the situation I am, so i will ask all those who say i should follow blind faith to answer this simple piece of advice for me and answer this question. Once you know my situation. I have been married for almost 3 years, i did not have sex on my wedding night, i did not have sex on my honeymoon, i have been turned down for sex many many times over the last 3 years with perhaps only 5 or 6 successful and very unexciting results. To those that ask, why did we get married, well we used to have sex alot, and we moved in with her parents for 18 months while we saved for a house. During this time, being in her parents house she became sexually withdrawn, i assumed it would recover after we got our own place and married. This all happened, the return of sex did not. This stress over time has put our relationship on the rocks, i have had the conversation as bluntly as you could with her friend and put it in writing, if i don't get sex i will end up being one of those men who do in quietly and secretly, i don't want to but i can not live without. after this i have waited over a year. i have reminded regularly. In asking for sex i have been told to go and pursue other people, although it was more in challenge during argument than as permission, but an acknowledgement of the problem. At our core we seem to be very different people, she is obsessed with social gossip, music and crappy tv. I on the otherhand play games, troll the internet and would rather watch discovery science than the kardations! There is ultimately a very large IQ difference between us, but i mean that in a non derogatory manner. My interest has always been in learning and discovery of all things while she has focused on the cute and shiny. Don't ask me what band or actor that is, i'll never have a clue. Together we make an odd yin/yang, completely opposite but we fit together. We have a beautiful puppy we both love and a nice home that neither of us can afford to keep ourselves. Separation would mean that we would have to fight for our dog and loose our home we have sacrificed everything for. But this is a limbo and cannot continue without some form of release. So members of Redhotpie who think Married men who sleep around are bastards! what is a sensible (condom wearing) non silverbacked gorilla supposed to do? I do not wish to get divorced (although this seems to be the way the river is flowing), i would be happy for my wife to seek what she wanted if she didn't get what she wanted from me, but I clean what i should, i work hard to bring home money, i make her cups of tea whenever she desires, i carry her to bed when she falls asleep on the couch, i kill the spiders, fix her car, mow the lawns, take out the trash, make cocktails for her friends when they come over, i run her bath, bring her shampoo when it runs out and drive down to get tampax because she someone cant remember that you need them every month and refuses to buy them until its too late and yet I cannot get the 1 thing i would like in return. Secretaff, you're 26 years old. Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? If it isn't with your wife and your future children then you know what to do. Right now all you have to split up is a house and a puppy. I find hard decisions can often be answered in this way: "What advice would my 80 year old self give me, looking back on my life to this very situation?".
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'secretaff'People will always feel strongly on this topic one way or another. There are many arguments for and against, and at the end of the day you would need to look at an individual situation before you can comment. I know many people who have cheated whom i would say have done the wrong thing, their partner has been there for them completely, sexually but they considered them stupid because it was easy and there was a lack of respect, not a relationship issue. This is an act of an asshole! I once thought that i would never been in the situation I am, so i will ask all those who say i should follow blind faith to answer this simple piece of advice for me and answer this question. Once you know my situation. I have been married for almost 3 years, i did not have sex on my wedding night, i did not have sex on my honeymoon, i have been turned down for sex many many times over the last 3 years with perhaps only 5 or 6 successful and very unexciting results. To those that ask, why did we get married, well we used to have sex alot, and we moved in with her parents for 18 months while we saved for a house. During this time, being in her parents house she became sexually withdrawn, i assumed it would recover after we got our own place and married. This all happened, the return of sex did not. This stress over time has put our relationship on the rocks, i have had the conversation as bluntly as you could with her friend and put it in writing, if i don't get sex i will end up being one of those men who do in quietly and secretly, i don't want to but i can not live without. after this i have waited over a year. i have reminded regularly. In asking for sex i have been told to go and pursue other people, although it was more in challenge during argument than as permission, but an acknowledgement of the problem. At our core we seem to be very different people, she is obsessed with social gossip, music and crappy tv. I on the otherhand play games, troll the internet and would rather watch discovery science than the kardations! There is ultimately a very large IQ difference between us, but i mean that in a non derogatory manner. My interest has always been in learning and discovery of all things while she has focused on the cute and shiny. Don't ask me what band or actor that is, i'll never have a clue. Together we make an odd yin/yang, completely opposite but we fit together. We have a beautiful puppy we both love and a nice home that neither of us can afford to keep ourselves. Separation would mean that we would have to fight for our dog and loose our home we have sacrificed everything for. But this is a limbo and cannot continue without some form of release. So members of Redhotpie who think Married men who sleep around are bastards! what is a sensible (condom wearing) non silverbacked gorilla supposed to do? I do not wish to get divorced (although this seems to be the way the river is flowing), i would be happy for my wife to seek what she wanted if she didn't get what she wanted from me, but I clean what i should, i work hard to bring home money, i make her cups of tea whenever she desires, i carry her to bed when she falls asleep on the couch, i kill the spiders, fix her car, mow the lawns, take out the trash, make cocktails for her friends when they come over, i run her bath, bring her shampoo when it runs out and drive down to get tampax because she someone cant remember that you need them every month and refuses to buy them until its too late and yet I cannot get the 1 thing i would like in return. Secretaff, you're 26 years old. Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? If it isn't with your wife and your future children then you know what to do. Right now all you have to split up is a house and a puppy. I find hard decisions can often be answered in this way: "What advice would my 80 year old self give me, looking back on my life to this very situation?".
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'secretaff'People will always feel strongly on this topic one way or another. There are many arguments for and against, and at the end of the day you would need to look at an individual situation before you can comment. I know many people who have cheated whom i would say have done the wrong thing, their partner has been there for them completely, sexually but they considered them stupid because it was easy and there was a lack of respect, not a relationship issue. This is an act of an asshole! I once thought that i would never been in the situation I am, so i will ask all those who say i should follow blind faith to answer this simple piece of advice for me and answer this question. Once you know my situation. I have been married for almost 3 years, i did not have sex on my wedding night, i did not have sex on my honeymoon, i have been turned down for sex many many times over the last 3 years with perhaps only 5 or 6 successful and very unexciting results. To those that ask, why did we get married, well we used to have sex alot, and we moved in with her parents for 18 months while we saved for a house. During this time, being in her parents house she became sexually withdrawn, i assumed it would recover after we got our own place and married. This all happened, the return of sex did not. This stress over time has put our relationship on the rocks, i have had the conversation as bluntly as you could with her friend and put it in writing, if i don't get sex i will end up being one of those men who do in quietly and secretly, i don't want to but i can not live without. after this i have waited over a year. i have reminded regularly. In asking for sex i have been told to go and pursue other people, although it was more in challenge during argument than as permission, but an acknowledgement of the problem. At our core we seem to be very different people, she is obsessed with social gossip, music and crappy tv. I on the otherhand play games, troll the internet and would rather watch discovery science than the kardations! There is ultimately a very large IQ difference between us, but i mean that in a non derogatory manner. My interest has always been in learning and discovery of all things while she has focused on the cute and shiny. Don't ask me what band or actor that is, i'll never have a clue. Together we make an odd yin/yang, completely opposite but we fit together. We have a beautiful puppy we both love and a nice home that neither of us can afford to keep ourselves. Separation would mean that we would have to fight for our dog and loose our home we have sacrificed everything for. But this is a limbo and cannot continue without some form of release. So members of Redhotpie who think Married men who sleep around are bastards! what is a sensible (condom wearing) non silverbacked gorilla supposed to do? I do not wish to get divorced (although this seems to be the way the river is flowing), i would be happy for my wife to seek what she wanted if she didn't get what she wanted from me, but I clean what i should, i work hard to bring home money, i make her cups of tea whenever she desires, i carry her to bed when she falls asleep on the couch, i kill the spiders, fix her car, mow the lawns, take out the trash, make cocktails for her friends when they come over, i run her bath, bring her shampoo when it runs out and drive down to get tampax because she someone cant remember that you need them every month and refuses to buy them until its too late and yet I cannot get the 1 thing i would like in return. Secretaff, you're 26 years old. Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? If it isn't with your wife and your future children then you know what to do. Right now all you have to split up is a house and a puppy. I find hard decisions can often be answered in this way: "What advice would my 80 year old self give me, looking back on my life to this very situation?".
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'secretaff'People will always feel strongly on this topic one way or another. There are many arguments for and against, and at the end of the day you would need to look at an individual situation before you can comment. I know many people who have cheated whom i would say have done the wrong thing, their partner has been there for them completely, sexually but they considered them stupid because it was easy and there was a lack of respect, not a relationship issue. This is an act of an asshole! I once thought that i would never been in the situation I am, so i will ask all those who say i should follow blind faith to answer this simple piece of advice for me and answer this question. Once you know my situation. I have been married for almost 3 years, i did not have sex on my wedding night, i did not have sex on my honeymoon, i have been turned down for sex many many times over the last 3 years with perhaps only 5 or 6 successful and very unexciting results. To those that ask, why did we get married, well we used to have sex alot, and we moved in with her parents for 18 months while we saved for a house. During this time, being in her parents house she became sexually withdrawn, i assumed it would recover after we got our own place and married. This all happened, the return of sex did not. This stress over time has put our relationship on the rocks, i have had the conversation as bluntly as you could with her friend and put it in writing, if i don't get sex i will end up being one of those men who do in quietly and secretly, i don't want to but i can not live without. after this i have waited over a year. i have reminded regularly. In asking for sex i have been told to go and pursue other people, although it was more in challenge during argument than as permission, but an acknowledgement of the problem. At our core we seem to be very different people, she is obsessed with social gossip, music and crappy tv. I on the otherhand play games, troll the internet and would rather watch discovery science than the kardations! There is ultimately a very large IQ difference between us, but i mean that in a non derogatory manner. My interest has always been in learning and discovery of all things while she has focused on the cute and shiny. Don't ask me what band or actor that is, i'll never have a clue. Together we make an odd yin/yang, completely opposite but we fit together. We have a beautiful puppy we both love and a nice home that neither of us can afford to keep ourselves. Separation would mean that we would have to fight for our dog and loose our home we have sacrificed everything for. But this is a limbo and cannot continue without some form of release. So members of Redhotpie who think Married men who sleep around are bastards! what is a sensible (condom wearing) non silverbacked gorilla supposed to do? I do not wish to get divorced (although this seems to be the way the river is flowing), i would be happy for my wife to seek what she wanted if she didn't get what she wanted from me, but I clean what i should, i work hard to bring home money, i make her cups of tea whenever she desires, i carry her to bed when she falls asleep on the couch, i kill the spiders, fix her car, mow the lawns, take out the trash, make cocktails for her friends when they come over, i run her bath, bring her shampoo when it runs out and drive down to get tampax because she someone cant remember that you need them every month and refuses to buy them until its too late and yet I cannot get the 1 thing i would like in return. Secretaff, you're 26 years old. Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? If it isn't with your wife and your future children then you know what to do. Right now all you have to split up is a house and a puppy. I find hard decisions can often be answered in this way: "What advice would my 80 year old self give me, looking back on my life to this very situation?".
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'secretaff'People will always feel strongly on this topic one way or another. There are many arguments for and against, and at the end of the day you would need to look at an individual situation before you can comment. I know many people who have cheated whom i would say have done the wrong thing, their partner has been there for them completely, sexually but they considered them stupid because it was easy and there was a lack of respect, not a relationship issue. This is an act of an asshole! I once thought that i would never been in the situation I am, so i will ask all those who say i should follow blind faith to answer this simple piece of advice for me and answer this question. Once you know my situation. I have been married for almost 3 years, i did not have sex on my wedding night, i did not have sex on my honeymoon, i have been turned down for sex many many times over the last 3 years with perhaps only 5 or 6 successful and very unexciting results. To those that ask, why did we get married, well we used to have sex alot, and we moved in with her parents for 18 months while we saved for a house. During this time, being in her parents house she became sexually withdrawn, i assumed it would recover after we got our own place and married. This all happened, the return of sex did not. This stress over time has put our relationship on the rocks, i have had the conversation as bluntly as you could with her friend and put it in writing, if i don't get sex i will end up being one of those men who do in quietly and secretly, i don't want to but i can not live without. after this i have waited over a year. i have reminded regularly. In asking for sex i have been told to go and pursue other people, although it was more in challenge during argument than as permission, but an acknowledgement of the problem. At our core we seem to be very different people, she is obsessed with social gossip, music and crappy tv. I on the otherhand play games, troll the internet and would rather watch discovery science than the kardations! There is ultimately a very large IQ difference between us, but i mean that in a non derogatory manner. My interest has always been in learning and discovery of all things while she has focused on the cute and shiny. Don't ask me what band or actor that is, i'll never have a clue. Together we make an odd yin/yang, completely opposite but we fit together. We have a beautiful puppy we both love and a nice home that neither of us can afford to keep ourselves. Separation would mean that we would have to fight for our dog and loose our home we have sacrificed everything for. But this is a limbo and cannot continue without some form of release. So members of Redhotpie who think Married men who sleep around are bastards! what is a sensible (condom wearing) non silverbacked gorilla supposed to do? I do not wish to get divorced (although this seems to be the way the river is flowing), i would be happy for my wife to seek what she wanted if she didn't get what she wanted from me, but I clean what i should, i work hard to bring home money, i make her cups of tea whenever she desires, i carry her to bed when she falls asleep on the couch, i kill the spiders, fix her car, mow the lawns, take out the trash, make cocktails for her friends when they come over, i run her bath, bring her shampoo when it runs out and drive down to get tampax because she someone cant remember that you need them every month and refuses to buy them until its too late and yet I cannot get the 1 thing i would like in return. Secretaff, you're 26 years old. Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? If it isn't with your wife and your future children then you know what to do. Right now all you have to split up is a house and a puppy. I find hard decisions can often be answered in this way: "What advice would my 80 year old self give me, looking back on my life to this very situation?".
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'secretaff'People will always feel strongly on this topic one way or another. There are many arguments for and against, and at the end of the day you would need to look at an individual situation before you can comment. I know many people who have cheated whom i would say have done the wrong thing, their partner has been there for them completely, sexually but they considered them stupid because it was easy and there was a lack of respect, not a relationship issue. This is an act of an asshole! I once thought that i would never been in the situation I am, so i will ask all those who say i should follow blind faith to answer this simple piece of advice for me and answer this question. Once you know my situation. I have been married for almost 3 years, i did not have sex on my wedding night, i did not have sex on my honeymoon, i have been turned down for sex many many times over the last 3 years with perhaps only 5 or 6 successful and very unexciting results. To those that ask, why did we get married, well we used to have sex alot, and we moved in with her parents for 18 months while we saved for a house. During this time, being in her parents house she became sexually withdrawn, i assumed it would recover after we got our own place and married. This all happened, the return of sex did not. This stress over time has put our relationship on the rocks, i have had the conversation as bluntly as you could with her friend and put it in writing, if i don't get sex i will end up being one of those men who do in quietly and secretly, i don't want to but i can not live without. after this i have waited over a year. i have reminded regularly. In asking for sex i have been told to go and pursue other people, although it was more in challenge during argument than as permission, but an acknowledgement of the problem. At our core we seem to be very different people, she is obsessed with social gossip, music and crappy tv. I on the otherhand play games, troll the internet and would rather watch discovery science than the kardations! There is ultimately a very large IQ difference between us, but i mean that in a non derogatory manner. My interest has always been in learning and discovery of all things while she has focused on the cute and shiny. Don't ask me what band or actor that is, i'll never have a clue. Together we make an odd yin/yang, completely opposite but we fit together. We have a beautiful puppy we both love and a nice home that neither of us can afford to keep ourselves. Separation would mean that we would have to fight for our dog and loose our home we have sacrificed everything for. But this is a limbo and cannot continue without some form of release. So members of Redhotpie who think Married men who sleep around are bastards! what is a sensible (condom wearing) non silverbacked gorilla supposed to do? I do not wish to get divorced (although this seems to be the way the river is flowing), i would be happy for my wife to seek what she wanted if she didn't get what she wanted from me, but I clean what i should, i work hard to bring home money, i make her cups of tea whenever she desires, i carry her to bed when she falls asleep on the couch, i kill the spiders, fix her car, mow the lawns, take out the trash, make cocktails for her friends when they come over, i run her bath, bring her shampoo when it runs out and drive down to get tampax because she someone cant remember that you need them every month and refuses to buy them until its too late and yet I cannot get the 1 thing i would like in return. Secretaff, you're 26 years old. Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? If it isn't with your wife and your future children then you know what to do. Right now all you have to split up is a house and a puppy. I find hard decisions can often be answered in this way: "What advice would my 80 year old self give me, looking back on my life to this very situation?".
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'secretaff'People will always feel strongly on this topic one way or another. There are many arguments for and against, and at the end of the day you would need to look at an individual situation before you can comment. I know many people who have cheated whom i would say have done the wrong thing, their partner has been there for them completely, sexually but they considered them stupid because it was easy and there was a lack of respect, not a relationship issue. This is an act of an asshole! I once thought that i would never been in the situation I am, so i will ask all those who say i should follow blind faith to answer this simple piece of advice for me and answer this question. Once you know my situation. I have been married for almost 3 years, i did not have sex on my wedding night, i did not have sex on my honeymoon, i have been turned down for sex many many times over the last 3 years with perhaps only 5 or 6 successful and very unexciting results. To those that ask, why did we get married, well we used to have sex alot, and we moved in with her parents for 18 months while we saved for a house. During this time, being in her parents house she became sexually withdrawn, i assumed it would recover after we got our own place and married. This all happened, the return of sex did not. This stress over time has put our relationship on the rocks, i have had the conversation as bluntly as you could with her friend and put it in writing, if i don't get sex i will end up being one of those men who do in quietly and secretly, i don't want to but i can not live without. after this i have waited over a year. i have reminded regularly. In asking for sex i have been told to go and pursue other people, although it was more in challenge during argument than as permission, but an acknowledgement of the problem. At our core we seem to be very different people, she is obsessed with social gossip, music and crappy tv. I on the otherhand play games, troll the internet and would rather watch discovery science than the kardations! There is ultimately a very large IQ difference between us, but i mean that in a non derogatory manner. My interest has always been in learning and discovery of all things while she has focused on the cute and shiny. Don't ask me what band or actor that is, i'll never have a clue. Together we make an odd yin/yang, completely opposite but we fit together. We have a beautiful puppy we both love and a nice home that neither of us can afford to keep ourselves. Separation would mean that we would have to fight for our dog and loose our home we have sacrificed everything for. But this is a limbo and cannot continue without some form of release. So members of Redhotpie who think Married men who sleep around are bastards! what is a sensible (condom wearing) non silverbacked gorilla supposed to do? I do not wish to get divorced (although this seems to be the way the river is flowing), i would be happy for my wife to seek what she wanted if she didn't get what she wanted from me, but I clean what i should, i work hard to bring home money, i make her cups of tea whenever she desires, i carry her to bed when she falls asleep on the couch, i kill the spiders, fix her car, mow the lawns, take out the trash, make cocktails for her friends when they come over, i run her bath, bring her shampoo when it runs out and drive down to get tampax because she someone cant remember that you need them every month and refuses to buy them until its too late and yet I cannot get the 1 thing i would like in return. Secretaff, you're 26 years old. Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? If it isn't with your wife and your future children then you know what to do. Right now all you have to split up is a house and a puppy. I find hard decisions can often be answered in this way: "What advice would my 80 year old self give me, looking back on my life to this very situation?".
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'secretaff'People will always feel strongly on this topic one way or another. There are many arguments for and against, and at the end of the day you would need to look at an individual situation before you can comment. I know many people who have cheated whom i would say have done the wrong thing, their partner has been there for them completely, sexually but they considered them stupid because it was easy and there was a lack of respect, not a relationship issue. This is an act of an asshole! I once thought that i would never been in the situation I am, so i will ask all those who say i should follow blind faith to answer this simple piece of advice for me and answer this question. Once you know my situation. I have been married for almost 3 years, i did not have sex on my wedding night, i did not have sex on my honeymoon, i have been turned down for sex many many times over the last 3 years with perhaps only 5 or 6 successful and very unexciting results. To those that ask, why did we get married, well we used to have sex alot, and we moved in with her parents for 18 months while we saved for a house. During this time, being in her parents house she became sexually withdrawn, i assumed it would recover after we got our own place and married. This all happened, the return of sex did not. This stress over time has put our relationship on the rocks, i have had the conversation as bluntly as you could with her friend and put it in writing, if i don't get sex i will end up being one of those men who do in quietly and secretly, i don't want to but i can not live without. after this i have waited over a year. i have reminded regularly. In asking for sex i have been told to go and pursue other people, although it was more in challenge during argument than as permission, but an acknowledgement of the problem. At our core we seem to be very different people, she is obsessed with social gossip, music and crappy tv. I on the otherhand play games, troll the internet and would rather watch discovery science than the kardations! There is ultimately a very large IQ difference between us, but i mean that in a non derogatory manner. My interest has always been in learning and discovery of all things while she has focused on the cute and shiny. Don't ask me what band or actor that is, i'll never have a clue. Together we make an odd yin/yang, completely opposite but we fit together. We have a beautiful puppy we both love and a nice home that neither of us can afford to keep ourselves. Separation would mean that we would have to fight for our dog and loose our home we have sacrificed everything for. But this is a limbo and cannot continue without some form of release. So members of Redhotpie who think Married men who sleep around are bastards! what is a sensible (condom wearing) non silverbacked gorilla supposed to do? I do not wish to get divorced (although this seems to be the way the river is flowing), i would be happy for my wife to seek what she wanted if she didn't get what she wanted from me, but I clean what i should, i work hard to bring home money, i make her cups of tea whenever she desires, i carry her to bed when she falls asleep on the couch, i kill the spiders, fix her car, mow the lawns, take out the trash, make cocktails for her friends when they come over, i run her bath, bring her shampoo when it runs out and drive down to get tampax because she someone cant remember that you need them every month and refuses to buy them until its too late and yet I cannot get the 1 thing i would like in return. Secretaff, you're 26 years old. Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? If it isn't with your wife and your future children then you know what to do. Right now all you have to split up is a house and a puppy. I find hard decisions can often be answered in this way: "What advice would my 80 year old self give me, looking back on my life to this very situation?".
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RHP User
15 years ago
mouse clicky thing pretended not to be working. sorry all for the collection of long duplicate posts
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' That's very narcissistic! I prefer to think that we have a responsibility to ourselves to live in a way that we can be proud of and to leave the world as good or better than we found it. It's not a religious thing, more just honouring the human race - those who came before us and those who'll follow. Yeah... that's all very nice and self serving.... but nothing we do will make a lick of difference in 20 years.... or 50.. or 100.. or for those very select few around 1000 ... no-one will know who you are in 5000 years.. as individuals all that is left are examples of our civilisation.. a bit of pottery... perhaps in our case a plastic bottle.HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
They are kind of like cars... I mean.. some of those curves... whoa! Some are like motorbikes though. When I first saw my Triumph I was kind of expecting the tail pipe to have hair around it. :)HugsS Quoting '0_DarkHorse_0' Quoting 'asupervisor' women to me are like cars yes i have a daily driver its suits most of my needs but sometimes i see another car that i just wanna drive i dont want to own it just a few drives and if i really like it i will continue with a few drives now and then if not thats fine i will find another to drive rember driving the same car everyday can get mudane you know everything it does and dont do Hahahahahahahahahahaha! You gotta be feeling the love and respect here ladies!This one's a keeper!
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15 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe'I spent 22 years in a monogamous relationship because that's that's what I expected from my ex. I'm not the slightest bit religious, but I do believe that we should do unto others as we expect them to do unto us. Well said Leichhardt!!! I also believe what goes around comes around....Good Luck!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' They are kind of like cars... I mean.. some of those curves... whoa! Some are like motorbikes though... I know one that's a bit like a firetruck. She spends a lot of time on the road, but when you light a fire, she squirts like nobody's business... though I think we're just indulging our senses of humour now...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' Yeah... that's all very nice and self serving.... but nothing we do will make a lick of difference in 20 years.... or 50.. or 100.. or for those very select few around 1000 ... no-one will know who you are in 5000 years.. as individuals all that is left are examples of our civilisation.. a bit of pottery... perhaps in our case a plastic bottle. Pick ten friends with kids at random. Ask yourself how many feel it's worth making an effort to make the world better for their kids and feel that in some small way at least they have done so. Did you come up with more than half? If you believe that most people would, then humankind is engaged in a slow but inexorable process of improvement.There's no shame in not being remembered - after all, the most memorable are often those who visit the most evil on the world. It's ironic for me to be saying this when my profile clearly lists me as being an evil genius, but my work is progressing well, so I'll be remembered anyway...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'irresponsibility' Secretaff, you're 26 years old. Where do you see yourself in 10 years time? If it isn't with your wife and your future children then you know what to do. Right now all you have to split up is a house and a puppy. I find hard decisions can often be answered in this way: "What advice would my 80 year old self give me, looking back on my life to this very situation?". Excellent advice! I used exactly the same method myself when deciding whether to leave my marriage. It was worth posting that 4 or 5 times...
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