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Kids = A deal breaker ???
May 20 2011
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RHP User
15 years ago
Plenty of those to go around in chilly Melbourne this week xfunlovingx.... .
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RHP User
15 years ago
Really? This is up to page 3 and going strong... | Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' Ladies and gentle, boys and girls, children of all ages....settle back and watch the show! A large popcorn is free and a large Coca-cola is yours at no extra charge! | Unfortunately the box and the cup are $19.95 and you will be ejected if we notice that you have brought your own snacks. We will also charge you $39.95 if you spill or make a mess on the seats or the fine red carpets in the theatre you grotty little parasites! | Let the show begin..... | I am almost starting to feel guilty...I said "amost", as so far I have sold enough boxes and cups for the free popcorn and Coca-Cola to fully fund both the tax deductible and the maximum three year undeducted contributions to my superannuation. | Keep going though...all sales from here on out will be used to build a daycare centre that is free for all those that need a place to hide those darn kids. | I need the tax deduction. Thanks! | | I only had to clean up one mess for $39.95. A grotty adult spilled something...I think.
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RHP User
15 years ago
what if i bring my own box and cup. then is it free
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15 years ago
Quoting '2hot2curious'1. We dont even mention kids were usually to turned on to think about them. 2. When we do meet we prepare. extra babysitters on call. 3. OUR KIDS OUR BUSINESS THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MY SEX LIFE AT ALL. it shouldnt matter whether or not someone has children its not like they are there when we meet or talk or get on cam or have sex. Yeah. That sounds better to me. Parents ought to put their thoughts of their children at the back of their minds and engulf themselves in the realisation of the fantasy of this mad sex romp.... if you have children, leave them safe and sound at home for the night, let your hair down, drop your knickers and kick up your heels!!!HugsStalky
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15 years ago
Also, I have no idea why anyone on this site needs to know that you have children. That would certainly put an end to this whole debate on deal breaker or not. Really... with child or childless, it's irrelevant. I know very few people who have the inclination to rush off around town for a root at the drop of the hat, unless of course, they're new to this situation. We all have demanding lives outside RHP, even if that does not involve children.HugsStalky
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15 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' To you Fiona how in the hell did you involve me in this arguement! I simply said that I love the way that Rubes speaks HER mind!! Stop playing victim whenever someone says something about you and reading things into it that aren't there! I did not even mention a word about you nor Focus! And yes yes yes yes yes we all know that Focus is your daughter and you are her Mother...EVERYONE has read that in heaps of different posts over the last few months sheesh! We know you don't share with each other...we know that you discuss every man you have been with or going to be with with each other...Give us a break and just go back to talking to each other! xFunlovingxTo the bottom of page one where I DID say Your sense of humour is sadly lacking. Are we being too subtle for you? Is levity something you do not understand? Try reading ALL the posts instead of singling out what you want to see only. May I suggest that both you and "Rubes" seriously think about getting fucked...literally....It may restore your sense of humour.....either that or a trip to the doctor for some haopy pills ladies.
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RHP User
15 years ago
we have children we can work round them n we always tell ppl that..or i go play while other half looks after them..might i add children r not grotty parasitic creatures focusliason u will find that evey1 has children n still find time to play...what u said bout them was nasty lucky my wife didnt read what u said or she would give u a mouth full....evey1 on this site has children...
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15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'xFunlovingx' To you Fiona how in the hell did you involve me in this arguement! I simply said that I love the way that Rubes speaks HER mind!! Stop playing victim whenever someone says something about you and reading things into it that aren't there! I did not even mention a word about you nor Focus! And yes yes yes yes yes we all know that Focus is your daughter and you are her Mother...EVERYONE has read that in heaps of different posts over the last few months sheesh! We know you don't share with each other...we know that you discuss every man you have been with or going to be with with each other...Give us a break and just go back to talking to each other! xFunlovingxTo the bottom of page one where I DID say Your sense of humour is sadly lacking. Are we being too subtle for you? Is levity something you do not understand? Try reading ALL the posts instead of singling out what you want to see only. May I suggest that both you and "Rubes" seriously think about getting fucked...literally....It may restore your sense of humour.....either that or a trip to the doctor for some haopy pills ladies. I find this to be silly banter and quite vindictive and unnecessary. Completely off the topic and onto personal attacks although amusing becomes monotonous. Obviously everyone on here is getting FUCKED hence why they are on here so i doubt these ladies need that lol. I do agree however that the mother and daughter tag team gets a bit much cindy
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15 years ago
Quoting 'cinmik' I do agree however that the mother and daughter tag team gets a bit much cindyIt is fine for others to have a cheap shot but we are not allowed to defend our point of view at all? We are meant to be bigger than everyone else and just walk away? You are as much an adult as the rest of us, it is your choice to continue reading the comments and replying to them as well.
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15 years ago
Hey now, the two of you just scored and you can sit back and enjoy the free popcorn, coca-cola and...I will even throw in the cups and boxes at no charge. Just make sure if you make a mess that you do clean it up, please? | Quoting 'blue_manners'what if i bring my own box and cup. then is it free It's on the house...my shout! Yipee, and admission is free too. | Quoting 'cinmik' I do agree however that the mother and daughter tag team gets a bit much| And you are in with a win, Cin. Whether I totally agree with everything you have said, who really gives a shit and time to let it go. Point made, point hopefully taken and... | ...you never called me a grotty little American. | | And I peeked and you have a great set of...tats? Vive le sex site!
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15 years ago
I took your comment to mean you agreed with Ruby thus you agreed I was stirring the pot therefore I wanted an explanation as to how this was so...fair enough??? As it has been seen by people taking offence to a tongue in cheek comment intent behind the written word isnt always clear and is open to misinterpretation... . Happy to apologise for misunderstanding your intent by the comment and not because hell hath frozen over (but it damn well feels cold enough to have) but because by your reckoning I got your intent wrong. No back peddling just a simple explanation as to how I read your statement. . Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
Quoting 'focusliason' Quoting 'swingtime4us'There is no way on this earth that we are going to speak about our children, to someone that means no more than a good time. But what about me as a single wanting more than just al ittle fun - I like to develop a friendship with my playmates and because I choose not to have children in my life (unless it cant be helped - damn parentals) then it does come up in converssation especially after a few play dtaes and you are discussing how teir day/week has beenIt would take alot more than that for someone to be worthy enough to meet our kids......As for canceling at the last minute because they may become ill, i should think those reasons could extend to other family members maybe a mother or father....hell no!! My mother wont come to me when I'm ill no way I'm going to her - let someone else look after her As parents if we cannot host and the people we play with cannot host, we get a motel no big deal easy in fact.....We don't sit hear and label people for the reasons they choose not to have children.And after a child blooms from parasite status what is it they become exactly?? Me!! (scared yet??) - but then if you ask my Mother I am still a parasite - see previous post about me as a child...lolWe would think that its not the kids that are the problem, but the character of the people whether they be parents or not...... Kisses FocusI applaud you for your choices and good on us for making ours, are we crazy for doing so? no more than you are !!I will come clean and say that yes once or twice the kids talk has come up but the conversation is short and non descript. For us their are our friends and then their are our playfriends whom we also share friendship with, but the conversations with both types are very different. My point about other reasons for canceling a play date are just that so many different things can happen its not always the kids. As for you being a parasite i don't believe that for one minute!! parasites suck the life out of you and feed from a host , they cannot survive without one. I tend to think you are a person who stands on her own quite well. I would also like to think you are sitting back having a good giggle over this forum. LOLxxxooo
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15 years ago
Quoting 'swingtime4us' I applaud you for your choices and good on us for making ours, are we crazy for doing so? no more than you are !! Shhhhh I do try to hide the fact that I am crazy from most of the world....but then I have been told this time and time again by people who feel that I have made the wrong choice in my life for not having children. I did state earlier that I applaud anyone who chooses to have children in their life - I couldnt do it - I also understand that there are constraints based on the fact that they have children....I figure its better that people know up front that I dont play with people with children (the previous incarnation of my profile did actually state this : It would be easier to say what I am NOT looking for: • Couples – sorry but I just want to be selfish for a while ( I understand that there are some couples who play seperately and use their couples profile in this manner...dont flirt me if this is the case send me message telling me so...I am not a mind reader and dont even look at couples profiles who flirt me - thats an instant rejection) • Groups –same as above...I want this experience to be more about me and you and less about how many I can get through in one session • Marriage (or any serious commitment apart from a friendship if that’s to develop) • Kids (yours or any of my own) • Smokers - and this includes light smokers ) So I really havent hidden my dislike of them at all....oh and people so what about what else I am not interested in - my body, my choice! Your body, your choice! I will come clean and say that yes once or twice the kids talk has come up but the conversation is short and non descript. For us their are our friends and then their are our playfriends whom we also share friendship with, but the conversations with both types are very different. Ahuh busted!!! See! If you do develop a friendship with a play friends talk does get around to what is important in your life and rightly so that includes your children - even in a general way....just not something I am interested in so why should I even think about putting up with it??? My point about other reasons for canceling a play date are just that so many different things can happen its not always the kids. Yes I got that - I just couldnt help but take a dig at Fionabee (see previous post about me as a child) And I understand that - its just that I have been stood up or cancelled on by parents one too many time....considering I like to get to know soemone a little beforehand its seems like such a waste of my time and theirs. I have had more cancellations from parents due to a kid related incident then anyone else (meaning childless). As for you being a parasite i don't believe that for one minute!! parasites suck the life out of you and feed from a host , they cannot survive without one. See! a child I tend to think you are a person who stands on her own quite well. unless I am really really sick then all I want is my Mummy...I would also like to think you are sitting back having a good giggle over this forum. LOL..how could I not??? I have got a little exasperated that I have had to explain myself adnauseum - thought once should do it...and find it funny that people have taken offence to a statement that many others have agreed with - especially those who have little boys...lol....but, between you and me - what amused me the most was that people got upset that I called children grotty parasitic creatures and completly overlooked the fact that I questioned peoples sanity in having children in the first place - uh oh think I am about to get into even more trouble for saying that...oh well....whats a little more shit ??? - supposedly will help me grow....hehe...but I do appreciate everyone who has come to my defence and those who have agreed with me...while a few have said that they dont like talk about kids too that they find it boring it appears I am the only person game enough to state unequivocably that I dont play with people with children and why - but then considering the backlash I dont blame others for staying in the shadows.....(and I apologise if I missed any posts that may have also been put up by people who also dont play with people with chldren) and for those people new to either RHP and/or the forums this isnt the first time I have said I dont play with people with children nor is it the first time I have said that I dont understand people with children. (If necessary am happy to dig out at least 3 other threads where I have stated this (or at least my desire not to have nay of my own) xxxoooKissesFocus
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15 years ago
Now i'm sitting back having a giggle!!xxxxoooo
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'focusliason' I took your comment to mean you agreed with Ruby thus you agreed I was stirring the pot therefore I wanted an explanation as to how this was so...fair enough??? As it has been seen by people taking offence to a tongue in cheek comment intent behind the written word isnt always clear and is open to misinterpretation... . Happy to apologise for misunderstanding your intent by the comment and not because hell hath frozen over (but it damn well feels cold enough to have) but because by your reckoning I got your intent wrong. No back peddling just a simple explanation as to how I read your statement. . Kisses Focus Thanks for apologising that is big of you and I appreciate it...I was just flabbergasted as I was just saying how I loved the way Ruby said what she felt! Sometimes I wish I was more like her...and not just when I am in the throes of PMS hahahaha! Anyway, bygones are bygones...happened yesterday...lets move on! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Single people wounder why there single ---- lets look at it --- its because no body want your ungly arse to have kids with, due to how unco you walk or just the terriable attitude you have is..... the skanky chick who called kids parasites is a prime exmaple,,, she is a bit mid thirty lonely women who is now saying she wants to be single lol---of course she does NOT lol..... Parents are trustable peolple and people who are stable, I say it awesome couple with kids who have that much trust to share there partners,,,,,, Hope to talk soon Regards 2tryu Quoting 'foreverlove7985' I suddenly feel like we're better off without the childless... Have definitly found that those who do have children are more accepting and understanding. We're a RAD couple, and for certain - those who bail because we have a couple of ankle biters - are missing out.
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15 years ago
Quoting '2tryU' Single people wounder why there single ---- lets look at it --- its because no body want your ungly arse to have kids with, due to how unco you walk or just the terriable attitude you have is..... the skanky chick who called kids parasites is a prime exmaple,,, she is a bit mid thirty lonely women who is now saying she wants to be single lol---of course she does NOT lol..... Parents are trustable peolple and people who are stable, I say it awesome couple with kids who have that much trust to share there partners,,,,,, Hope to talk soon Regards 2tryu Yeah, OK. That makes sense......NOT! I'm single. I know plenty of people who are also single, have no children, and are quite happy and stable, and I would trust with my life.
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15 years ago
I now get to add skanky to my list of personal insults....bahahahahahahahahahahaha...this is too funny....how is that having kids automatically makes a person stable and happy??? Do they hand out special drugs and lifetime prescriptions for them at childbirth???....who do I know about to have a child maybe I could get some of them??? . I am single because I choose to be...have my share of people who would love for me to have their child (trust me one of them works with me and has asked me if I would....) and to share their life with me...its my choice not to and am happy with this choice....many people I know are childless because they choose too....single because they choose too...hmmmm wonder how the childless couples feel about knowing that because they are childlesss they are obviously less stable than someone who has kids.....as for being lonely - far from it...it worries me that some people think that because they have children and/or are married they have the right to personally attack anothers lifestyle choice . Isnt it strange apparently I also have an ungly arse yet my views for this month are creeping higher and higher since I switched to this pic....this coming from gym junkies who show no public pic of the male...refuse to play with people who are not hair free nor rip up big time nor what they consider to be above average ....no I'm not jealous...just stating that we all have our preferences....theirs are no more valid than my own. . Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
OK,,,I want to know why kids even get mentioned when arranging to meet. You can either make it or not. Kids arent the only thing that cause you to cancel. There could be work crisis, friend in need or other family problems. And the bottom line is we all have our preference for who we want to play with. So like others have said "It's their problem, not yours". Enjoy when you can. xx (Focus - the parasite comment is funny. I have a child and I love my child more than anything. But when I was pregnant I made a comment about the baby being a parasite, Fucking hell, did I cop it big time. lol too bad for them. I have my own sense of humor and if others dont get it they can fuck off. )
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15 years ago
It is quite normal for women of Focus's age not to have kids At the primary school where my kids went, it was unusal to see a mother under 30 Most of us were 40 plus and quite competent parents as well!! Quoting 'goldcoastgirl30' Quoting 'focusliason' Damn! I was so close CM - Childless? Check! No Pets?? Check! But its the 9-5 bit that got me - I'm 6 - 3 damn damn and blast!!! . 1. How do you manage to meet people if you cancel at the last minute?? Sheesh there must be more tolerant people than me out there...lol . 2.To my mind however CM I think that business would be whole lot more interesting to discuss than children. Discussions about the type of work you do can lead to very interesting conversation...in my mind...conversations about children is, and does not. . 3. Any excuse to dress up for me - I just love it...and if we are at the stage where I am being introduced to work colleagues can I please please please tell them about your shoe fetish??? . 4. Surely you have a motel room booked by then though?? And if you now you are flying in and have already got an accomodting person waiting at the other end then you have already got past the nuisance part of undertsnading and accepting and they are willing to over look your short comings of being a professional. . 5. See above , 6. You will be jumping in my lap??? Hmmm do hope you plan on doing something else while there and not just wagging your bum. . Kisses Focus I think what some may find insulting is the insinutation that because you have children then it is quite possible you will be unreliable, also whether tongue in cheek or not to call children grotty and parasitic is just not on. You were a grotty parasite too then I take it once upon a time. I applaud the fact that you want to go through life with no children, alone, that is your choice to make. As a single proffesional woman with 3 children I find the generalisation offensive, I could give a rats ass if it was a joke, how about we generalise that you as single woman with no children at your age is a little sad and pathetic as it is not the norm I am sure you would not find it quite so funny then. But hey its just a joke right?
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15 years ago
If you feel the need to have kids or partners or money or anything else to make you happy and fulfilled then clearly something is wrong. And yes i do have kids that I love dearly but i was also happy and fulfilled before they turned up!! Quoting 'winging_it' Quoting 'dontgothere' But the best thing is, you will always know where you stand with her. Though if I offered to tie her up and promising never to mention the fact that I have 3 children and to drive her totally nuts over the space of a weekend she would have no problem with it. It's her choice not to deal with children and I can respect that. I don't like to mix the two either. Never the twain shall meet Now if you two would like to go for a nice drive Im sure we could organise a group babysitter .......... Quoting 'focusliason' the following are the reasons why I refuse to play with someone who has children - . 1. I dont like to be cancelled on at the last minute because something has hapopened - babysitter didnt show, kid fallen ill, etc etc . 2. Invariably people with children end up talking about them - I dont want to know anything about them, there are other things you can talk about . 3. Where singles are concerned - often a friendship can develop or they ask you to meet their kids - not after that thankyou I dont want to confuse the kids...I am not mummy or daddies girlfriend and dont want your kids to be a part of my life . 4. Being parents mean it can be difficult to organise a place to play - and if the people you are approaching cant host then it can seem a little daunting . 5. The amount of time and effort that gos into organising a play date with parents is just too much...why would I bother when there a childless people out there I could play with in a much quicker time frame?? . 6. Because you are obviously crazy for having children in the first place - grotty parasitic creatures that they are and I only like to play with the sane . Hope this answered a few of your questions . Kisses Focuswell i agreed with you up to number 6 when you called children grotty parasitic creatures,you obvisiously will never fully be happy in your life because i think the most amazing experience in life is giving life,it comes down to the parents how they bring them up to be grotty ,i have three wonderful boy's that give me the most joy imagineable so for you to stand there and call children grotty creatures get a bloody life
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15 years ago
Well we read Focus post and thought no:6 name calling of children ....wow thats going to get a reaction which it did excellent troll. Most entertaining thankyou. But seriously it is routine for a lot of people to be intolerant of children untill they have their own then when theirs leave home they return to intolerant of others children. Focus will fall in love with Mr Prince Charming and then????LOL. What surprises us was Fionas describtion of Focus as a child, bet thats not true Focus would have been a perfect child, butter would not melt.....untill she joined RHP! By the way we like playing out, a really nice top of the line Italian meal, and a 4 star plus luxary apartment adds to the anticapation and a exceptional night out. So kids dont interfer with playing. never cancelled because of them!
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15 years ago
Quoting 'Romancefor4' Well we read Focus post and thought no:6 name calling of children ....wow thats going to get a reaction which it did excellent troll. Most entertaining thankyou. Anytime - I aim to please But seriously it is routine for a lot of people to be intolerant of children untill they have their own then when theirs leave home they return to intolerant of others children. Focus will fall in love with Mr Prince Charming and then????LOL. Still no kids - have been in 2 long term relationships previously (5 yrs and 8yrs) and havent changed my mind - in fact both of those men are now fathers themselves - one only just recently. What surprises us was Fionas describtion of Focus as a child, bet thats not true Focus would have been a perfect child, butter would not melt.....untill she joined RHP! Actually I asked her to describe me as a child and she is spot on...she didnt mention the mud pies I liked making on the back step..nor the fact i used to tip the pegs out of my Grandmothers peg basket to sit in it...the fact i would go crayfishing with the boys....but hell I stil cant handle people touching my scalp or feet...but if you want to think I had to have been perfect please go right ahead (I may as well have one person who does...lol) By the way we like playing out, a really nice top of the line Italian meal, and a 4 star plus luxary apartment adds to the anticapation and a exceptional night out. So kids dont interfer with playing. never cancelled because of them! Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
stupid question if you ask me... isn't it obvious?
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15 years ago
is having kids is a deal breaker for some? it would be fair to say that the attitude that some have about children is truly disappointing. the vast majority of us here, who are 30 and over, have had their lives touched by children. for us, we believe it makes us better and more responsible people, less prone to making decisions that we later regret. everything we do as parents, whether for our selves or others, we do with the knowledge our children will at some stage need us to be there for them. Children take precedence, but then so does common sense, good behavior and life-time commitment. if anyone were to say to us 'pity you have children' or 'sorry but no, you have kids', then that would be a relief, as it exposes them as the sort of people we wouldn't want near to us anyway. we have kids. we have grandkids. if anyone doesnt like that, we are quite happy to say 'goodbye'...........
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15 years ago
Kids or not makes no diff in my eyes, just sayin.Unreliable people are unreliable, 'Little Billy is sick so I can't come out to play' is parentspeak for 'I got cold feet/pet got sick/changed my mind/jerked my wad earlier and thats my one a day' that singles use.The difference is negligible.I know plenty of single mums who have their act together enough to arrange babysitting and get out and have a social life, so couples have even less hassle. Reliable people.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'SoldierB' Kids or not makes no diff in my eyes, just sayin.Unreliable people are unreliable, 'Little Billy is sick so I can't come out to play' is parentspeak for 'I got cold feet/pet got sick/changed my mind/jerked my wad earlier and thats my one a day' that singles use.The difference is negligible.I know plenty of single mums who have their act together enough to arrange babysitting and get out and have a social life, so couples have even less hassle. Reliable people. and you know this how? you know the ins and outs of every-ones life before you meet them for play? we think not. single parents have half the hassles that attached ones do... how do i know ? been there done that.
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15 years ago
We don't have kids but very early on we learnt of couples that refused to play with 'parents'. We didn't know why. Now that we have been around for a while we have played with three couples that are parents and its all worked fine for us so far. No one cancelling because a child is sick, not that we would mind. None of them talk about their kids too much and none of them have had to alter plans because of their kids. Most just get baby sitters and play at a hotel room anyway and leave to go home to the kids later. It can be done and successfully. No way would we write off a couple due to kids.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'SoldierB' and you know this how? you know the ins and outs of every-ones life before you meet them for play? we think not. single parents have half the hassles that attached ones do... how do i know ? been there done that. I don't have to know the ins and outs, their marital status, number of kids, and whether they believe in a price on carbon. All I care about is whether they are reliable or not.Thus I don't discount people on kids/no kids, as it ultimately doesn't matter - if they are truly interested and reliable people it will all be smooth sailing; if they are a time wasting tyre kicker then they will be so - kids or no kids.Having kids in the equation makes bugger all difference.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' is having kids is a deal breaker for some? it would be fair to say that the attitude that some have about children is truly disappointing. awww did those of us who choose not to have children as any part of our lives disappoint you?? shucks! maybe you need to get out a little bit more the vast majority of us here, who are 30 and over, have had their lives touched by children. had it touched by chldren and its just not for me for us, we believe it makes us better and more responsible people, and me choosing to not have them as part of my life shows less responsible behaviour how? less prone to making decisions that we later regret. we all makes those, children or not, and for some that decsion they regret is their child (or quite possibly in the OP's case asking the question in the first place) everything we do as parents, whether for our selves or others, we do with the knowledge our children will at some stage need us to be there for them. Children take precedence, agreed - I never said otherwise but then so does common sense, good behavior and life-time commitment. can have all of those without having children if anyone were to say to us 'pity you have children' or 'sorry but no, you have kids', then that would be a relief, as it exposes them as the sort of people we wouldn't want near to us anyway. which is? we have kids. we have grandkids. if anyone doesnt like that, we are quite happy to say 'goodbye'...........then its agreed - we dont meet! Deal? Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
Quoting 'focusliason' Quoting 'mikeandshel' is having kids is a deal breaker for some? it would be fair to say that the attitude that some have about children is truly disappointing. awww did those of us who choose not to have children as any part of our lives disappoint you?? shucks! maybe you need to get out a little bit more the vast majority of us here, who are 30 and over, have had their lives touched by children. had it touched by chldren and its just not for me for us, we believe it makes us better and more responsible people, and me choosing to not have them as part of my life shows less responsible behaviour how? less prone to making decisions that we later regret. we all makes those, children or not, and for some that decsion they regret is their child (or quite possibly in the OP's case asking the question in the first place) everything we do as parents, whether for our selves or others, we do with the knowledge our children will at some stage need us to be there for them. Children take precedence, agreed - I never said otherwise but then so does common sense, good behavior and life-time commitment. can have all of those without having children if anyone were to say to us 'pity you have children' or 'sorry but no, you have kids', then that would be a relief, as it exposes them as the sort of people we wouldn't want near to us anyway. which is? we have kids. we have grandkids. if anyone doesnt like that, we are quite happy to say 'goodbye'...........then its agreed - we dont meet! Deal? Kisses Focus was always a done deal! lol
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15 years ago
Quoting 'SoldierB' Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'SoldierB' and you know this how? you know the ins and outs of every-ones life before you meet them for play? we think not. single parents have half the hassles that attached ones do... how do i know ? been there done that. I don't have to know the ins and outs, their marital status, number of kids, and whether they believe in a price on carbon. All I care about is whether they are reliable or not.Thus I don't discount people on kids/no kids, as it ultimately doesn't matter - if they are truly interested and reliable people it will all be smooth sailing; if they are a time wasting tyre kicker then they will be so - kids or no kids.Having kids in the equation makes bugger all difference.you have no idea of how complicated life becomes once you add children to the equation..................at all, do you? but i guess being single you have the rest of us 'unreliable' coupled types at a severe disadvantage............dont you? what do they say about 'walking a mile in anothers shoes'?
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15 years ago
Chilli - you naughty girl you know all you have to do is look my way and I'm all yours...as for mess....have you been looking in the windows again??? .Mikeandshel - nice to know we do actually agree on something....lol... . Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
cindy you took the words out of my mouth,i totally agree with everything you said
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15 years ago
Quote: Someone you have no idea of how complicated life becomes once you add children to the equation..................at all, do you? but i guess being single you have the rest of us 'unreliable' coupled types at a severe disadvantage............dont you? what do they say about 'walking a mile in anothers shoes'? Not much more complicated?Organised and reliable people are, umm, reliable and organised.Time wasters, with or without kids, are time wasters.I think a few people here have a bit of a martyr complex.
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15 years ago
I just never sleep with parents. I don't find parents or parenthood sexy. We all have our own 'turn-offs' ...be that smokers, tattoos, those who talk about their ex's on dates, what a person reads, a persons musical taste, how a person dresses, how much a person drinks, their political views....whatever it is. For me it's kids. Instant 'soft on'. And I agree with 'Focus'....kids are dirty. ...just check out the houses/cars they inhabit - they're messy/dirty/chaos.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Plus you forgot to mention that women who have had kids just are not as fit anymore! Sad but true!
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15 years ago
It didn't turn us off from meeting and playing with you forever love...and yes you two are a completely RAD couple who are awesome, sexy, lovely...please come again! lol
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15 years ago
Quoting 'bjod76'Plus you forgot to mention that women who have had kids just are not as fit anymore! Sad but true! Clearly you haven't been with a woman who has children... Nawwww... SpikeandHolly... we'll be back, don't you worry about that! xxx
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15 years ago
Quoting 'bjod76' Plus you forgot to mention that women who have had kids just are not as fit anymore! Sad but true! thats a whole other can of worms that a wise man would never open....... and entirely untrue, by the way.
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15 years ago
I was just annoyed at that lady calling kids parasites, she was a kid one time in her life, But your right most of our single friends are awesome and your right we trust them aswell, its just weird people like that lady sometimes need to be put back in place.... Quoting 'rcflyer69' Quoting '2tryU' Single people wounder why there single ---- lets look at it --- its because no body want your ungly arse to have kids with, due to how unco you walk or just the terriable attitude you have is..... the skanky chick who called kids parasites is a prime exmaple,,, she is a bit mid thirty lonely women who is now saying she wants to be single lol---of course she does NOT lol..... Parents are trustable peolple and people who are stable, I say it awesome couple with kids who have that much trust to share there partners,,,,,, Hope to talk soon Regards 2tryu Yeah, OK. That makes sense......NOT! I'm single. I know plenty of people who are also single, have no children, and are quite happy and stable, and I would trust with my life.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'bjod76' Plus you forgot to mention that women who have had kids just are not as fit anymore! Sad but true! You have got to be kidding! What has having kids got to do with fitness?!?
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15 years ago
Quoting '2tryU' Parents are trustable peolple and people who are stable,When does becomng a parent mean you are responsible and trustworthy?. If this was the case why are so many kids...from all walks of life...placed in care every week? Quoting 'bjod76'Plus you forgot to mention that women who have had kids just are not as fit anymore! Sad but true! I dont see the correlation between fitness and childbirth. Please explain?
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15 years ago
Like ninja was saying there are things that are an instant soft on, for us it's shallow and one dimensional personalities.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'bjod76'Plus you forgot to mention that women who have had kids just are not as fit anymore! Sad but true! Quoting 'bjod76'Plus you forgot to mention that women who have had kids just are not as fit anymore! Sad but true! boy r u so wrong im 41 n have 6 kids plus i work n im fit as a fiddle i came from work and look after kids do tea do the house work n still find time to play.i could do ten rounds of sex.think u have had ur head in the dirt mate or u never b with a woman who has kids...
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15 years ago
Quoting '2tryU' I was just annoyed at that lady calling kids parasites, she was a kid one time in her life, But your right most of our single friends are awesome and your right we trust them aswell, its just weird people like that lady sometimes need to be put back in place.... Quoting 'rcflyer69' Quoting '2tryU' Single people wounder why there single ---- lets look at it --- its because no body want your ungly arse to have kids with, due to how unco you walk or just the terriable attitude you have is..... the skanky chick who called kids parasites is a prime exmaple,,, she is a bit mid thirty lonely women who is now saying she wants to be single lol---of course she does NOT lol..... Parents are trustable peolple and people who are stable, I say it awesome couple with kids who have that much trust to share there partners,,,,,, Hope to talk soon Regards 2tryu Yeah, OK. That makes sense......NOT! I'm single. I know plenty of people who are also single, have no children, and are quite happy and stable, and I would trust with my life. If you think that is the weirdest thing about me ...well...I might actually take that as a compliment...not everyone wants children in their lives its quite simple...its not weird at all....and yes I know I was a child at some stage of my life (grotty parasite that I was...still am when Im sick) having children is just not something I choose to have.... Quoting 'ninjaxxx' I just never sleep with parents. I don't find parents or parenthood sexy. We all have our own 'turn-offs' ...be that smokers, tattoos, those who talk about their ex's on dates, what a person reads, a persons musical taste, how a person dresses, how much a person drinks, their political views....whatever it is. For me it's kids. Instant 'soft on'. And I agree with 'Focus'....kids are dirty. ...just check out the houses/cars they inhabit - they're messy/dirty/chaos. Ninja - believe me when I tell you that those of us who choose not to have children in our lives will always be thgouht of as a little different....it is apparently unnatural to not to want them...not to like them...especially as a woman.... . Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
I've had 3, am still 60kg and a size 10, plus I do weights twice a week with a trainer!!Focus can vouch for me, she met me once!!!!!Quoting 'bjod76' Plus you forgot to mention that women who have had kids just are not as fit anymore! Sad but true!
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15 years ago
Quoting 'focusliason' If you think that is the weirdest thing about me ...well...I might actually take that as a compliment...not everyone wants children in their lives its quite simple...its not weird at all....and yes I know I was a child at some stage of my life (grotty parasite that I was...still am when Im sick) having children is just not something I choose to have.... Quoting 'ninjaxxx' I just never sleep with parents. I don't find parents or parenthood sexy. We all have our own 'turn-offs' ...be that smokers, tattoos, those who talk about their ex's on dates, what a person reads, a persons musical taste, how a person dresses, how much a person drinks, their political views....whatever it is. For me it's kids. Instant 'soft on'. And I agree with 'Focus'....kids are dirty. ...just check out the houses/cars they inhabit - they're messy/dirty/chaos. Ninja - believe me when I tell you that those of us who choose not to have children in our lives will always be thgouht of as a little different....it is apparently unnatural to not to want them...not to like them...especially as a woman.... . Kisses Focus And we all want what we can't have, too. I don't have a shot with Focus because I have children (plus a few other ticks in the "No" list ), so that makes the fantasy all the more delicious. Come, My Pretty, I'll turn you to the dark side yet! maybe with the help of some chocolate sauce and whipped cream...
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15 years ago
"6. Because you are obviously crazy for having children in the first place - grotty parasitic creatures that they are and I only like to play with the sane"Focus be thankful your mum was not sane at the time she had you, or you wouldn't be here to post this forum. I have NO words for your out burst, it is just so sad, callous and one minded. You just seem to be missing something, not everyone has the freedom as you do, whether it be work, children, family commitments or even hate to say it at our age the fact that we have aging family/parents!OK You choose NOT to play with them cause they have kids ...... 75% of couples playing have kids, it is their choice to be here and then it is your choice not to correspond ........ why be so nasty about i
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15 years ago
kids a deal breaker? for me; only while they're home lol.... we have had the same thing, but i'd rather be upfront about it than have people around who find kids to be a deal breaker.... you never know they might have backed out because their bail conditions state they have to remain at least 500 metres away from kids who arent related to them. looking at it that way its probably best you didnt get to know them :-)
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15 years ago
Needs ya tripper, thats just one long sentence.I disagree with what ive read cos, Its all about me, if a chic has kids she doesnt have time to fuss over me and its all about me... isnt it???oh yeah i dont apologise to those mums whose bedrooms ive run out of over the years, when jnr has climbed in, in the middle of the nite.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Can I just say, that it is okay for RHP members to have kids - I like to think it is okay for most members that having kids are okay. It is certainty not a problem for me. Mike
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15 years ago
Well peeps...At the end of the day people have the right to do as they please and also change their minds as the last minute whether or not prior arrangements have been finalised...
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15 years ago
Quoting 'latte_for_two'"6. Because you are obviously crazy for having children in the first place - grotty parasitic creatures that they are and I only like to play with the sane" Focus be thankful your mum was not sane at the time she had you, or you wouldn't be here to post this forum. I have NO words for your out burst, it is just so sad, callous and one minded. You just seem to be missing something, not everyone has the freedom as you do, whether it be work, children, family commitments or even hate to say it at our age the fact that we have aging family/parents! OK You choose NOT to play with them cause they have kids ...... 75% of couples playing have kids, it is their choice to be here and then it is your choice not to correspond ........ why be so nasty about i got to say love well said bout time sum1 gave her a blast......
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15 years ago
Quoting 'sexy2seek1'kids a deal breaker? for me; only while they're home lol.... we have had the same thing, but i'd rather be upfront about it than have people around who find kids to be a deal breaker.... you never know they might have backed out because their bail conditions state they have to remain at least 500 metres away from kids who arent related to them. looking at it that way its probably best you didnt get to know them :-) We NEVER have the children around. They are sent to the babysitters - or baby sat at our house - while we meet our "friends" at a different location... We are not after some more 'Aunties' or 'Uncles' for our kids. They have enough... Anyway - we've met some people through here - and they have all been understanding about our situation... However, we have not once cancelled on anyone, nor tried to change to another date. We refuse to be 'that couple'.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'rednwetpussy' Quoting 'latte_for_two'"6. Because you are obviously crazy for having children in the first place - grotty parasitic creatures that they are and I only like to play with the sane" Focus be thankful your mum was not sane at the time she had you, or you wouldn't be here to post this forum. I have NO words for your out burst, it is just so sad, callous and one minded. You just seem to be missing something, not everyone has the freedom as you do, whether it be work, children, family commitments or even hate to say it at our age the fact that we have aging family/parents! OK You choose NOT to play with them cause they have kids ...... 75% of couples playing have kids, it is their choice to be here and then it is your choice not to correspond ........ why be so nasty about i got to say love well said bout time sum1 gave her a blast...... That "HER" Happens to be my biological child. I gave birth to her when I was very young. A mistake? At the time yes but I love her just the same. Oh and I dont really believe any teenager at that age is sane. Now I know that many people on here have limited senses of humour but enough is enough! If you cannot see the humour in what Focus said then please refrain from all this personal attack. She was not being nasty at all but merely stating her opinion as to why she did not play with parents. Number six was actually tongue in cheek but obviously many of you parents just dont "get" it It has been all the ludicrous comments because people have lept to the defence of thier precious little bundles of vomit and snot. As parents...if we are being realistic...we will agree that children are only fantastic, wonderful, CLEAN little bundles of joy when they have fallen asleep or when someone else has them. It is then that our hearts really melt and all the mess, noise, dirt and confusion of the day dissappear. The rest of the time they are grotty, dirty, smelly, feral little beasts. They cannot fend for themselves, they NEED someone else to feed and water them as well as clean up after them...this makes them parasites. In the purist sense of the word. Look up the definition if you do not believe me. In fact I think that Focus supplied it earlier on. There is nothing sad about her comment and there is nothing callous about it. One sided? Yes but then she has admitted that already and at the end of the day.... l IT IS HER CHOICE!
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15 years ago
I said my piece way back on page two, I think. There are many narrow minded people around here, who can't accept anything other than their own realityFee; I recall you describing her as an earth mother in another distant thread if i recall correctly, definetly true, she checks in on me periodically to see how I am going, and I love hearing from her. From what I have seen she is a very caring person,so she doesn't want kids, big deal! get over it people!!!!I certainly look forward forward to spending time with her when we can make our busy schedules meet.Although we are very different people and disagree about many things, I can still accept her point of view. maybe you should too.Focus, have you got a Jazz club lined up for the night?Cheers Nev...vive la difference
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15 years ago
Latte - I also choose not to play with couples (childless or not), travelling people, anyone above my mothers age, smokers, anyone not willing to meet me socially first and a host of other criteria as well - if this makes me single minded well I guess I am...this whole experience is about me - as it for everyone else...we all have our choices...this topic asked why people run when foreverlove tells them they have children I gave my reasons for doing exactly that and I clearly stated that they were my own reasons....anyone who knows me and forum regulars who have been here for a while would also atest to the fact that over time my tolerance for children has waned but over all I have never changed my view about them - I just dont like them. As for being grateful my Mother wasnt sane when I was brought into the world let me tell you something that she didnt - I also told her "there are things you can do about it" when she told me she was pregnant with my youngest brother....I didnt think she was sane then either... . RC - you are a naughty naughty man you know I have a weakness for chocolate...lol...but the thought of you covered in chocolate - well you never know that just might tempt me... . prestwich - thats just a scary scary thought - them coming into the bedroom ......shudders....but once you realise this experienece is all about me - then you will be perfect . Hung - I have never said it isnt ok to have children I just dont understand why people would want them in their lives...I choose not to have children in my life in any way (unless absolutely forced by friends and family who insist on breeding) ... my experieneces have been in the negative playing with people who have children....RHP is here for all adults...parents and non alike (my own Mother is here for goodness sakes) . Rednwet - you obviously didnt bother to take the time to read the other 3 pages of people having a blast at me for expressing my view...my reasons for choosing who I play with....go back and see exactly that...it is my view...my body...my choice... . foreverlove - I am glad to see that you dont want to be 'that couple' and that you have met some wonderful and understanding people...continue to enjoy the fun that can be had with like minded people...afterall thats what we are all here for . Fionabee - you know you still arent sane right???? See what having me did to you???? bahahahahahahaha I have told you over and over again through out my life that people say I dont have a sense of humour - will you believe me now?? . Nev - all set...have scouted a lovely place for us to have dinner and enjoy some good music...now to get our damn calendars to coincide . Kisses Focus
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tank__girl
15 years ago
Quoting 'prestwich'Needs ya tripper, thats just one long sentence.I disagree with what ive read cos, Its all about me, if a chic has kids she doesnt have time to fuss over me and its all about me... isnt it???oh yeah i dont apologise to those mums whose bedrooms ive run out of over the years, when jnr has climbed in, in the middle of the nite. Hahhaaaa....WTF?? Who's the tripper?! I thought I was going to read the opposite of what you'd written after knowing you, and spending time with you....living with you for 2 weeks, and even holidaying with you, and my daughter!? He's just putting on a tough guy/funny man for ya'll...heheheee.. I reckon you'd put up with the jnr climbing into bed for the right girl...
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15 years ago
Ok so it's not about if you choose to have kids or not, come on people if you are smart enough to make that call either way.Then you should be smart enough not to name call or insult, that is the issue here!!Crazy, parasite, skanky chick, accusing people of having dirty cars and houses just because kids live in them.Also saying that people are wrong just because they do not want kids in their life.I get the feeling that maybe the kids are the smart ones here and some people should pull their heads in a little.Freedom of choice and freedom from insult because of those choices.........Where's the love people..xxxxooooo
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redhotozz
15 years ago
Amen....kids are 100% important!!!
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15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'rednwetpussy' Quoting 'latte_for_two'"6. Because you are obviously crazy for having children in the first place - grotty parasitic creatures that they are and I only like to play with the sane" Focus be thankful your mum was not sane at the time she had you, or you wouldn't be here to post this forum. I have NO words for your out burst, it is just so sad, callous and one minded. You just seem to be missing something, not everyone has the freedom as you do, whether it be work, children, family commitments or even hate to say it at our age the fact that we have aging family/parents! OK You choose NOT to play with them cause they have kids ...... 75% of couples playing have kids, it is their choice to be here and then it is your choice not to correspond ........ why be so nasty about i got to say love well said bout time sum1 gave her a blast...... That "HER" Happens to be my biological child. I gave birth to her when I was very young. A mistake? At the time yes but I love her just the same. Oh and I dont really believe any teenager at that age is sane. Now I know that many people on here have limited senses of humour but enough is enough! If you cannot see the humour in what Focus said then please refrain from all this personal attack. She was not being nasty at all but merely stating her opinion as to why she did not play with parents. Number six was actually tongue in cheek but obviously many of you parents just dont "get" it It has been all the ludicrous comments because people have lept to the defence of thier precious little bundles of vomit and snot. As parents...if we are being realistic...we will agree that children are only fantastic, wonderful, CLEAN little bundles of joy when they have fallen asleep or when someone else has them. It is then that our hearts really melt and all the mess, noise, dirt and confusion of the day dissappear. The rest of the time they are grotty, dirty, smelly, feral little beasts. They cannot fend for themselves, they NEED someone else to feed and water them as well as clean up after them...this makes them parasites. In the purist sense of the word. Look up the definition if you do not believe me. In fact I think that Focus supplied it earlier on. There is nothing sad about her comment and there is nothing callous about it. One sided? Yes but then she has admitted that already and at the end of the day.... l IT IS HER CHOICE!children r not beast ok how dare u call kids that were do u get off calling kids names maybe sum1 should off called u that they get dirty coz they play .they r only kids omg..leave them alone.im a proud mother of 6 gr8 kids..n nothing will ever change that.im sick n tired of u b nasty towards kids back the fuck off they didnt asked to b born in2 this world maybe sum1 should of called ur freal daughter names then u will c what its like 4 u to have ppl like u on here, mouthing off bout kids.u have really got me sooo fucking angry..back off got it n leave the kids out of this..
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15 years ago
Quoting 'rednwetpussy' children r not beast ok how dare u call kids that were do u get off calling kids names maybe sum1 should off called u that they get dirty coz they play .they r only kids omg..leave them alone.im a proud mother of 6 gr8 kids..n nothing will ever change that.im sick n tired of u b nasty towards kids back the fuck off they didnt asked to b born in2 this world maybe sum1 should of called ur freal daughter names then u will c what its like 4 u to have ppl like u on here, mouthing off bout kids.u have really got me sooo fucking angry..back off got it n leave the kids out of this.. But that was the question....did you read the original post??? Why do kids = deal breakers?? How can I answer this question without mentioning kids??? And furthermore you ask Fionabee to leave the kids alone and not name call them yet you insist on insulting and name calling her own child (as have many others in the previous 3 pages all because you and others do not share my sense of humour) This further heightens my perception that you have not read the whole post but only a small proportion of it otherwise you would see that not only have I been called feral (by yourself) but also a sad, lonely person, as well as skanky and being told that my choices for MY life are wrong.... oh and I forgot to mention the lovely lady who is under the misguided delusion that I am jealous of those who have children and are married (two things I have regularly said that I do not wish to have in my life)....Fionabee is the proud mother of 5 children and is also the carer of many others...she is standing up for her child as you would for your own....as for children being beasts - well I hate to raise this to you but we are all part of the animal kingdom and thus we are technically beasts...lol... . I gave my opinion as asked for by the OP....sure you may not agree with me - neither do many others, sure you dont share my sense of humour - neither do many others but, as we are made aware time and time again, we all have our own choices as to who we play with...I dont like children...purely because they are kids, do get dirty, demand attention all the time - yes I am selfish - and act like children - not my thing thankyou!...I dont play with parents (married, single or other) purely because I have had negative experiences in the past - but then if you and many others took the time to read the whole post you would see that I have already stated this ad nauseum.... . Get over the fact that I dont like children - I am not alone in this world with that view...get over the fact that my Mother sticks up for me - doesnt that show a kind loving Mother???? Something you would also do???? A question was asked and answered - so the view doesnt match your own??? Whoop dee doo ... I dont agree with everyone here about things either ... it is the nature of humans and our society that we are all able to think for ourselves and express our own choices... , Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
What is it about children that get people so upset?They are a renewable resource. :)
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15 years ago
Now before all the squares get upset....I am entitled to laugh....I have kids!(teenagers). Cheers Nev
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sammilling
15 years ago
I can play even though i have 4 kids iam so very rich because of them,so all you yummie mummies out there take no notice of these shallow people because i know that we can all work around the commitments of our kids. So go get some fun
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15 years ago
doh!
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15 years ago
Quoting 'focusliason' Latte - I also choose not to play with couples (childless or not), travelling people, anyone above my mothers age, smokers, anyone not willing to meet me socially first and a host of other criteria as well - if this makes me single minded well I guess I am...this whole experience is about me - as it for everyone else...we all have our choices...this topic asked why people run when foreverlove tells them they have children I gave my reasons for doing exactly that and I clearly stated that they were my own reasons....anyone who knows me and forum regulars who have been here for a while would also atest to the fact that over time my tolerance for children has waned but over all I have never changed my view about them - I just dont like them. As for being grateful my Mother wasnt sane when I was brought into the world let me tell you something that she didnt - I also told her "there are things you can do about it" when she told me she was pregnant with my youngest brother....I didnt think she was sane then either... . RC - you are a naughty naughty man you know I have a weakness for chocolate...lol...but the thought of you covered in chocolate - well you never know that just might tempt me... . prestwich - thats just a scary scary thought - them coming into the bedroom ......shudders....but once you realise this experienece is all about me - then you will be perfect . Hung - I have never said it isnt ok to have children I just dont understand why people would want them in their lives...I choose not to have children in my life in any way (unless absolutely forced by friends and family who insist on breeding) ... my experieneces have been in the negative playing with people who have children....RHP is here for all adults...parents and non alike (my own Mother is here for goodness sakes) . Rednwet - you obviously didnt bother to take the time to read the other 3 pages of people having a blast at me for expressing my view...my reasons for choosing who I play with....go back and see exactly that...it is my view...my body...my choice... . foreverlove - I am glad to see that you dont want to be 'that couple' and that you have met some wonderful and understanding people...continue to enjoy the fun that can be had with like minded people...afterall thats what we are all here for . Fionabee - you know you still arent sane right???? See what having me did to you???? bahahahahahahaha I have told you over and over again through out my life that people say I dont have a sense of humour - will you believe me now?? . Nev - all set...have scouted a lovely place for us to have dinner and enjoy some good music...now to get our damn calendars to coincide . Kisses Focus Quoting 'focusliason' Quoting 'rednwetpussy' children r not beast ok how dare u call kids that were do u get off calling kids names maybe sum1 should off called u that they get dirty coz they play .they r only kids omg..leave them alone.im a proud mother of 6 gr8 kids..n nothing will ever change that.im sick n tired of u b nasty towards kids back the fuck off they didnt asked to b born in2 this world maybe sum1 should of called ur freal daughter names then u will c what its like 4 u to have ppl like u on here, mouthing off bout kids.u have really got me sooo fucking angry..back off got it n leave the kids out of this.. But that was the question....did you read the original post??? Why do kids = deal breakers?? How can I answer this question without mentioning kids??? And furthermore you ask Fionabee to leave the kids alone and not name call them yet you insist on insulting and name calling her own child (as have many others in the previous 3 pages all because you and others do not share my sense of humour) This further heightens my perception that you have not read the whole post but only a small proportion of it otherwise you would see that not only have I been called feral (by yourself) but also a sad, lonely person, as well as skanky and being told that my choices for MY life are wrong.... oh and I forgot to mention the lovely lady who is under the misguided delusion that I am jealous of those who have children and are married (two things I have regularly said that I do not wish to have in my life)....Fionabee is the proud mother of 5 children and is also the carer of many others...she is standing up for her child as you would for your own....as for children being beasts - well I hate to raise this to you but we are all part of the animal kingdom and thus we are technically beasts...lol... . I gave my opinion as asked for by the OP....sure you may not agree with me - neither do many others, sure you dont share my sense of humour - neither do many others but, as we are made aware time and time again, we all have our own choices as to who we play with...I dont like children...purely because they are kids, do get dirty, demand attention all the time - yes I am selfish - and act like children - not my thing thankyou!...I dont play with parents (married, single or other) purely because I have had negative experiences in the past - but then if you and many others took the time to read the whole post you would see that I have already stated this ad nauseum.... . Get over the fact that I dont like children - I am not alone in this world with that view...get over the fact that my Mother sticks up for me - doesnt that show a kind loving Mother???? Something you would also do???? A question was asked and answered - so the view doesnt match your own??? Whoop dee doo ... I dont agree with everyone here about things either ... it is the nature of humans and our society that we are all able to think for ourselves and express our own choices... , Kisses Focushow wrong u r i do read n read what u say it seem to me that u have started this by mouthing off bout kids n im finishing it. kids r human beings they have feelings to u have upset alot off parents on here who have kids n love them to death as i do mine.u need to get over self 4 a change n leave the kids out of this..its bout sex not kids ..sounds like to me u need to get laid real bad..lol...woow..suck it up princess....xxx..GO GET A FUCK WILL U PLZZZZZ.n stop writting on here bout this its getting boring...omg plzzz...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Polar_Bear_Girl'What is it about children that get people so upset?They are a renewable resource. :) PBG what a sweetie......lookie here, someone else for everyone to get upset about. . I cant even remember now if anyone else (apart from Focus) answered the origanal question. People are sooooooooooo sensative sometimes. I once knew a guy who would get upset if his "Children" were referred to as "Kids".. So in answer to the origanal post,,,,,I dont think kids are the deal breaker for everyone. It's more likely that the Deal Breaker = time wasters who use the kids as an excuse (probably just one of many excuses).
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RHP User
15 years ago
Don't worry, i know focus gets plenty of fucks. Is she not entitled to an opinion, and she was only giving hers.Quoting 'rednwetpussy' Quoting 'focusliason' Latte - I also choose not to play with couples (childless or not), travelling people, anyone above my mothers age, smokers, anyone not willing to meet me socially first and a host of other criteria as well - if this makes me single minded well I guess I am...this whole experience is about me - as it for everyone else...we all have our choices...this topic asked why people run when foreverlove tells them they have children I gave my reasons for doing exactly that and I clearly stated that they were my own reasons....anyone who knows me and forum regulars who have been here for a while would also atest to the fact that over time my tolerance for children has waned but over all I have never changed my view about them - I just dont like them. As for being grateful my Mother wasnt sane when I was brought into the world let me tell you something that she didnt - I also told her "there are things you can do about it" when she told me she was pregnant with my youngest brother....I didnt think she was sane then either... . RC - you are a naughty naughty man you know I have a weakness for chocolate...lol...but the thought of you covered in chocolate - well you never know that just might tempt me... . prestwich - thats just a scary scary thought - them coming into the bedroom ......shudders....but once you realise this experienece is all about me - then you will be perfect . Hung - I have never said it isnt ok to have children I just dont understand why people would want them in their lives...I choose not to have children in my life in any way (unless absolutely forced by friends and family who insist on breeding) ... my experieneces have been in the negative playing with people who have children....RHP is here for all adults...parents and non alike (my own Mother is here for goodness sakes) . Rednwet - you obviously didnt bother to take the time to read the other 3 pages of people having a blast at me for expressing my view...my reasons for choosing who I play with....go back and see exactly that...it is my view...my body...my choice... . foreverlove - I am glad to see that you dont want to be 'that couple' and that you have met some wonderful and understanding people...continue to enjoy the fun that can be had with like minded people...afterall thats what we are all here for . Fionabee - you know you still arent sane right???? See what having me did to you???? bahahahahahahaha I have told you over and over again through out my life that people say I dont have a sense of humour - will you believe me now?? . Nev - all set...have scouted a lovely place for us to have dinner and enjoy some good music...now to get our damn calendars to coincide . Kisses Focus Quoting 'focusliason' Quoting 'rednwetpussy' children r not beast ok how dare u call kids that were do u get off calling kids names maybe sum1 should off called u that they get dirty coz they play .they r only kids omg..leave them alone.im a proud mother of 6 gr8 kids..n nothing will ever change that.im sick n tired of u b nasty towards kids back the fuck off they didnt asked to b born in2 this world maybe sum1 should of called ur freal daughter names then u will c what its like 4 u to have ppl like u on here, mouthing off bout kids.u have really got me sooo fucking angry..back off got it n leave the kids out of this.. But that was the question....did you read the original post??? Why do kids = deal breakers?? How can I answer this question without mentioning kids??? And furthermore you ask Fionabee to leave the kids alone and not name call them yet you insist on insulting and name calling her own child (as have many others in the previous 3 pages all because you and others do not share my sense of humour) This further heightens my perception that you have not read the whole post but only a small proportion of it otherwise you would see that not only have I been called feral (by yourself) but also a sad, lonely person, as well as skanky and being told that my choices for MY life are wrong.... oh and I forgot to mention the lovely lady who is under the misguided delusion that I am jealous of those who have children and are married (two things I have regularly said that I do not wish to have in my life)....Fionabee is the proud mother of 5 children and is also the carer of many others...she is standing up for her child as you would for your own....as for children being beasts - well I hate to raise this to you but we are all part of the animal kingdom and thus we are technically beasts...lol... . I gave my opinion as asked for by the OP....sure you may not agree with me - neither do many others, sure you dont share my sense of humour - neither do many others but, as we are made aware time and time again, we all have our own choices as to who we play with...I dont like children...purely because they are kids, do get dirty, demand attention all the time - yes I am selfish - and act like children - not my thing thankyou!...I dont play with parents (married, single or other) purely because I have had negative experiences in the past - but then if you and many others took the time to read the whole post you would see that I have already stated this ad nauseum.... . Get over the fact that I dont like children - I am not alone in this world with that view...get over the fact that my Mother sticks up for me - doesnt that show a kind loving Mother???? Something you would also do???? A question was asked and answered - so the view doesnt match your own??? Whoop dee doo ... I dont agree with everyone here about things either ... it is the nature of humans and our society that we are all able to think for ourselves and express our own choices... , Kisses Focushow wrong u r i do read n read what u say it seem to me that u have started this by mouthing off bout kids n im finishing it. kids r human beings they have feelings to u have upset alot off parents on here who have kids n love them to death as i do mine.u need to get over self 4 a change n leave the kids out of this..its bout sex not kids ..sounds like to me u need to get laid real bad..lol...woow..suck it up princess....xxx..GO GET A FUCK WILL U PLZZZZZ.n stop writting on here bout this its getting boring...omg plzzz...
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RHP User
15 years ago
I can't believe that this thread is still going and people are getting so upset at focus.....how does her opinion affect someone else? Isn't she entitled to an opinion that differs from others? I have two gorgeous kids that I would do anything for...BUT - the question of this thread is "Kids = A deal breaker ???" and she put forth an opinion as to why they are a deal breaker for her. You don't have to agree with her and you can put forward your own thoughts as to why.....why the need to attack her for her opinion? So you love your kids, so what?? Does that give you the right to harass and abuse someone who has a different opinion to you? What happened to the right of free speech? By all means argue your case intelligently and say why they aren't a deal breaker for you....but there's absolutely no need to make this personal and attack focus just because her opinions are different to yours...are we in the 15th or 21st century here?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Andraxx' I can't believe that this thread is still going and people are getting so upset at focus.....how does her opinion affect someone else? Isn't she entitled to an opinion that differs from others? I have two gorgeous kids that I would do anything for...BUT - the question of this thread is "Kids = A deal breaker ???" and she put forth an opinion as to why they are a deal breaker for her. You don't have to agree with her and you can put forward your own thoughts as to why.....why the need to attack her for her opinion? So you love your kids, so what?? Does that give you the right to harass and abuse someone who has a different opinion to you? What happened to the right of free speech? By all means argue your case intelligently and say why they aren't a deal breaker for you....but there's absolutely no need to make this personal and attack focus just because her opinions are different to yours...are we in the 15th or 21st century here?I thinks it's because people don't like to be insulted, or have their kids called parasites.She just hit a nerve and alot of people felt that they had to defend themselves and their kids. Lets look at it this way there are no kids on this site, so who stands up for them when they are put down? their parents do!! If she had just given her opinion with out the name calling and insults we probably wouldn't be on pg 4 of this forum today..... xxxxoooo
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RHP User
15 years ago
Andraxx and Desserts - love you both!!! . Red - so its OK for you to have an opinion....but not me?? Its ok for others (who do not have the same sense of humour as myself) to call me derogatory names but for me not to defend myself (or for my Mother to defend my either)? . PBG - that was too funny girl.....loved it!! . Swingtime - if people just got over the fact that I dont like children I wouldnt have to defend my opinion all the time - oh wait if people actually took the time to read the OP and my response followed by the page of too and fro regarding my sense of humour and left it at that I wouldnt have to repeat myself....if I cant defend my position...or if people get so upset about it and have to continually say the same things over and over again then this thread will continue . I would like to point out something though - I have defended my position...I do stick by my feelings regarding kids...but not once did I personally attack any of your children...I did not name call any of them...I made a generalisation about children - as I see it...however I have been personally attacked and called names....and if some of you think this will end by you telling me how to think...that my veiws are not as valid as your own...please think again....I will not back down while I am being personally attacked - regular forum readers will attest I am a stubborn person! . Kisses Focus
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TimidButCurious
15 years ago
Funny how one person’s honest opinion can have such a harsh reaction. . Focus has made it very clear in many other posts that she isn’t interested in marriage or children (which clearly many of you have not seen before – or you may have laughed along with her initial response) – hence her starting line “OK People I got this one covered”. I’m sure there are many others who don’t like to meet with anyone who has kids either for their own reasons or even similar to Focus’. Sadly they probably don’t dare comment in fear of also being berated for their opinion. . Of course anyone with children loves and cares for their children more than anything in the world – this wasn’t a personal attack on your children or your choice to have them in the first place. . If you haven’t read many of Focus’ other forum comments, it might be difficult for you to understand her sense of humour or her directness in answering/commenting on forum topics – after a while you get to understand the personalities of the regular posters on here. . If people choose not to meet up with someone who smokes – would the smokers get as upset or feel as criticised for their choice to be a smoker? There are many people who have their list of “wants” and “don’t wants” before they would ever consider meeting up – these are all a personal choice. Thankfully there is a huge mixed bag of people to choose from where all “wants’ are ticked from both sides. If not… keep looking. ... I’m sure foreverlove7985 didn’t expect their post to get so out of control, and I’m sure they learned some insights as to why some people see Kids=Deal Breaker (not that you have to agree with them – it’s one persons opinion from her experiences). Plenty of like minded people on here who can meet up and have fun with each other. It’s really not that big of a deal is it? .. Timid xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
I agree. EVERYONE is intitled to thier opinion. Not just thise who are defending thier children against something that was not even aimed personally at thier children. I am the only parent on this site who has had a child PERSONALLY attacked and it does not worry me in the slightest. I love kids, I have made them my life's work. For me they are not a deal breaker although they have been that for someone who did approach me until he found out the sheer number of kids I had (at the time I think it numbered seven at home plus 4 more grown up. Somwhat less at this point in time. Only three at home and four more grown up)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thank you for your opinion Focus, you have helped to answer some of our questions. You have upset a few people but stood your ground and explained yourself thoroughly and repeatedly. I'm not sure why people have been getting so upset as you were just voicing your opinion. At times they do seem like grotty parasitic creatures and over the last eleven years my four children have systematically drained me of my youth, money, patience and sanity. (Mr)
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RHP User
15 years ago
...I talked to my ex-girlfriend about this debate and why kids are "a deal breaker". She said "oh, well, I've only had sex with a couple of mothers - but their vaginas/stomachs/breasts were all messed up". eeeewww. As if I needed another reason to NOT GO THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'ninjaxxx' ...I talked to my ex-girlfriend about this debate and why kids are "a deal breaker". She said "oh, well, I've only had sex with a couple of mothers - but their vaginas/stomachs/breasts were all messed up". eeeewww. As if I needed another reason to NOT GO THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, you automatically put ALL mothers into the saggy boobs/saggy stomachs/loose vaginas category?! How fucking UNEDUCATED you are! (MRS)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Or lucky for us mothers that the males dont seem to find the same issues..as this random female did.Another perfect example of a massive generalisation! Quoting 'ninjaxxx' ...I talked to my ex-girlfriend about this debate and why kids are "a deal breaker". She said "oh, well, I've only had sex with a couple of mothers - but their vaginas/stomachs/breasts were all messed up". eeeewww. As if I needed another reason to NOT GO THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Sometimes when you read through these long threads that just seem to waffle on...a few really stand out, this one is a classic that sets a whole new benchmark... | Quoting 'ninjaxxx' "oh, well, I've only had sex with a couple of mothers - but their vaginas/stomachs/breasts were all messed up". eeeewww. As if I needed another reason to NOT GO THERE! The very beautiful women here that are mothers...they have a gift that exceeds anything you might find in a gym or in a bottle full of those desinger "diet pills" to help you reduce body fat that are far too expensive to afford when you are looking after your family. | They have grace...and understand how to share their lives with others. Most don't have the time to be overly self-indulgent or have enough hours in the day to prance around a gym in the latest in "Look At Me Lycra" but then again...their bodies are a canvas that has been painted perfectly by a Master and tells a story. You won't even find works like this in the Louvre (that's an art gallery in Paris, you may not have heard of it) as the Master is nature and the works of art are magnificient. This hideous disease of motherhood also seems to give them patience and understanding...at least that's what I learned as a child, I had one of these too and learned a great deal from her. | What really made me laugh is that after looking at a few of your posts and profile...it seems that you may be another candidate for a new franchise that I just bought in to up your way? It's called Bullshit Excavation Pty. Ltd. and I am happy to send a couple of backhoes out your way...the first hour is free, you will need it. Too, I have a few friends in the medical field and I will have one of them include a free copy of a little book on how to treat minor contusions and the eccyymosis that invariably follows when your boney little ass hits the mat. Don't worry...it will go away quickly and you can start wearing those sports bras and g-strings again at the gym in no time. | Not go there... | ...I doubt you will ever be blessed with the chance. | | Most men really hate waking up with bruises on their pelvis...I know I do.
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RHP User
15 years ago
these people who would reject a woman, or couple, on the basis of them being parents, really need to keep their distorted points of view to themselves. some of the statements being made, opinions being shared and thoughts being explained, are just highlighting their ignorance and arrogance... but hey, thanks for the look-see...it just means we and others would never consider you as potential playmate material.......but thats your loss, not ours....as you dont ever get to choose us, its the other way around..... some children unfortunately never do grow into responsible, polite and well mannered adults do they...wonder whose to blame there?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Too answer the question firstly .... kids are not a deal breaker for me. In fact I like to meet guys who have kids as they are more understanding as I am a single mum, who is blessed with not only the best lil guy in the world.. but also maybe good genes. I have been lucky to retain my pre pregnancy weight and shape. Breasts , although have always been small are still as firm as they were 20 yrs ago. My vagina is still in tact..lol...( c-section) ok..so I cheated! but bugger me I wasnt going to go through the agony of pushing him out feet first! hahahha.. Tummy is flat n sexy... Now I will not go into detail..... but when I have in the past had some fun with other ladies ( but not now..if any of you are getting your hopes up)! :P... Their vagina's looked lovely, had kids or not ! Maybe I was just to busy enjoying them for the woman they are. hugs sweetpetite41 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
See there you go...two beautiful women, HSC and SP and both mothers...and both in top physical form and eqaully both those dangerous little "ninja...whack" kind of hot chicks that I have to be nice to so they don't beat me up.....ohhhhhhhhh so scary. Just hope I could manage to defend myself. | Quoting 'sweetpetite41' Maybe I was just to busy enjoying them for the woman they are.... | Guess that's the real point...I couldn't really care what came out of there, just what goes in next? And oh my gawd...you are a pocket rocket too? It's not a fetish, dammit...I just like women that aren't tall. So arrest me officer SP and to your best... | ...just as long as I get to frisk you too.
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RHP User
15 years ago
You know, my breasts might not sit where they used to - but being a DD cup - time and gravity would have done what is done anyway. I don't have a single stretchmark on my body - and my stomach is pretty flat. Infact, it's flatter than most womens stomachs today who HAVEN'T had children. As for my vagina, I birthed 2 healthy sized babies from it - one being 7lb 11oz, and the other being 8lb 14oz - without ANY damage. Seriously, I didn't tear, or need to be cut. No stitches. It still looks the same... AND, it has actually shrunk back to be tighter than what it was before babies. Alot of my friends have said the exact same thing. A womans body is made to have babies - and if you look after it while it is housing a gorgeous little human being, it rewards you once you are done. Now, when I do go out - people tend to ask me why I have handprints tattooed on me... Their reaction, when I say that they are my daughters handprints, is ALWAYS - "YOU... have a child??!", to which I am always proud to say, "2 actually!"... This is always followed with "WOW, you look FANTASTIC for having kids"... Like being a Mother should have automatically made me a big, stretchmarked, tub of lard. So many of my mother friends don't even look like they have had children - and whilst some are not so lucky, their bodies are still beautiful. I agree with Saturn, that comment was a complete generalisation. And thank god most people do not see Mothers the way that this random woman (who obviously likes to stir the pot) did. (MRS)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'foreverlove7985' I suddenly feel like we're better off without the childless... Have definitly found that those who do have children are more accepting and understanding. We're a RAD couple, and for certain - those who bail because we have a couple of ankle biters - are missing out.Totally agree with you forever. Whether you choose to swing or not, whether you choose to have kids or not, entirely your choice but to judge someone cause they have kids...are you kidding me, sorry what a pile of shit!!!. I am amazed that someone with such an alternative lifestyle is so small minded, probably best you don't have kids, that kinda of attitude needs to be kicked to the curb. Do you just have a problem with parents Focus or does you bigotry extend to anything else.... I am not going to look at this thread again because I get that you don't like to be insulted and tend to act like a bully in a playground at comments like this so let me finish with this one.... you don't like people having a go at you but this thread is a personal attack on every swinging parent out there. Thank god I don't know you cause small minded bigggot give me the shits!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Agreed! We have played with parents and their bodies were amazing! *winks at forever love*
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'foreverlove7985' Quoting 'ninjaxxx' ...I talked to my ex-girlfriend about this debate and why kids are "a deal breaker". She said "oh, well, I've only had sex with a couple of mothers - but their vaginas/stomachs/breasts were all messed up". eeeewww. As if I needed another reason to NOT GO THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, you automatically put ALL mothers into the saggy boobs/saggy stomachs/loose vaginas category?! How fucking UNEDUCATED you are! (MRS) I agree with you foreverlove....... What a load of bullshit, ive seen women without kids who have saggier tits that i do and bigger stomaches lol and dont even get me started on the vagina........i have 4 children and at 39 can probably guarantee my hole is tighter than hers as i have had 4 c-sections, none of them came out of my vagina, im lucky if a 7 inch thick cock can even fit witout ripping me apart, yet there are people without kids who need 8" thick cocks to feel fullfilled does that mean they just have "SLOPPY BUCKETS" CINDY
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'ninjaxxx' ...I talked to my ex-girlfriend about this debate and why kids are "a deal breaker". She said "oh, well, I've only had sex with a couple of mothers - but their vaginas/stomachs/breasts were all messed up". eeeewww. As if I needed another reason to NOT GO THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would much prefer as would probably at least 60% of men, women with curves........far better than looking masculine so a little bit of body fat is not a bad thing. A woman with curves is much sexier and appealing to the eye especially if she is comfortable in her own skin cindy
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' Sometimes when you read through these long threads that just seem to waffle on...a few really stand out, this one is a classic that sets a whole new benchmark... | Quoting 'ninjaxxx' "oh, well, I've only had sex with a couple of mothers - but their vaginas/stomachs/breasts were all messed up". eeeewww. As if I needed another reason to NOT GO THERE! The very beautiful women here that are mothers...they have a gift that exceeds anything you might find in a gym or in a bottle full of those desinger "diet pills" to help you reduce body fat that are far too expensive to afford when you are looking after your family. | They have grace...and understand how to share their lives with others. Most don't have the time to be overly self-indulgent or have enough hours in the day to prance around a gym in the latest in "Look At Me Lycra" but then again...their bodies are a canvas that has been painted perfectly by a Master and tells a story. You won't even find works like this in the Louvre (that's an art gallery in Paris, you may not have heard of it) as the Master is nature and the works of art are magnificient. This hideous disease of motherhood also seems to give them patience and understanding...at least that's what I learned as a child, I had one of these too and learned a great deal from her. | What really made me laugh is that after looking at a few of your posts and profile...it seems that you may be another candidate for a new franchise that I just bought in to up your way? It's called Bullshit Excavation Pty. Ltd. and I am happy to send a couple of backhoes out your way...the first hour is free, you will need it. Too, I have a few friends in the medical field and I will have one of them include a free copy of a little book on how to treat minor contusions and the eccyymosis that invariably follows when your boney little ass hits the mat. Don't worry...it will go away quickly and you can start wearing those sports bras and g-strings again at the gym in no time. | Not go there... | ...I doubt you will ever be blessed with the chance. | | Most men really hate waking up with bruises on their pelvis...I know I do. THIS POST ROCK, YOU HAVE A WAY WITH WORDS THAT EXCEEDS MANY OTHERS........ CINDY
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'spikeandholly'Agreed! We have played with parents and their bodies were amazing! *winks at forever love* Haha... *winks back* I was nearly gonna call you guys for back up!
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