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Homo-phobes , what makes them so hilarious????
June 02 2011
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RHP User
15 years ago
Well if anyone actually carefully considers what's written in the emails they'll see straight away that the allegations made against me are pretty funny stuff , and anyone who actually knows me will fall off their fucking chair. Thanks for playing and good night. Loz
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RHP User
15 years ago
Ps we never got answer to the question : what would you do if you caught a bi guy posing straight with you that wasn't attempting anal rape of your wife???? Of course this is the question I asked several times and they said they would answer later on , so what's the fucking answer????
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RHP User
15 years ago
Something else to consider that is actually pretty obvious ; there would be many bi guys out there that wouldn't have the faintest clue about your particular brand of homophobia , ie it would never have crossed their minds that someone would possibly be scared of catching something from them because they MIGHT indulge in anal on ocassion. They'd be thinking that 'I'm clean , regularly tested , so I'm just like everyone else'. They might not tell you they're bi because they might think it's none of your fucking business. That's how I was a little while back , and if somehow or other you'd found out that I was bi during the course of playing and had attacked me (just saying to get you to think about it , NOT A THREAT) , then I would have wiped the fucking floor with you soldierboy. Then your family may have been in danger , not because I would attempt to hurt any woman but because bystanders often get hurt when there's a scrap on , you should know you're from NZ like me , we're used to the biffo aren't we????
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RHP User
15 years ago
Ok it says on your profile 'no bi guys' , but what if they didn't really read your profile (as guys often don't)????
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RHP User
15 years ago
Btw Rufun thanks for the info on the study ;-)
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RHP User
15 years ago
It's very difficult in a country town, I think... everyone knows everyone elses' business, or think they know. You can't even sun-bake naked in your own back yard without there being a town scandal over it, let alone do a bit of swinging.... heaven forbid if you try on a bit of dogging... lmfao! Imagine checking for a warm car bonnet down the street in Orange! There's no way you'd get away with it.... nope... you gotta do that in Newtown! lmfao.HugsStalky Quoting 'beachbody' Its much easier to be Bi and open about it in the city we think. Imagine in a country town, everyone knows everyone and people just love to gossip because theres nothing else to do in a country town... In the city, who cares! Very few of our friends know anything about our bedroom lifestyle. Im positive that if it became public knowledge we would experience all kinds of discrimination such as fewer job opportunities to exclusion. Sounds intense but Im sure anyone living in a country town could confirm. I do think from Gen Y down there is a massive swing towards acceptance. Hopefully that will flow down to their children and so on.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I sailed into Port Macquarie this one time and stayed at the Marina. I found plenty of action at a little beach the other side of town once the sun went down... just saying.HugsStalky Quoting 'beachbody' Its much easier to be Bi and open about it in the city we think. Imagine in a country town, everyone knows everyone and people just love to gossip because theres nothing else to do in a country town...
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RHP User
15 years ago
I think the very act of sharing your female partner with another male is inherently bisexual whether the males are able to openly acknowledge this or not....as a pre operative transsexual lady the only messages I get from here are from guys who state they are 'straight' so go figure....but I totally accept that it is this couple's right to choose who they're intimate with without having to excessively explain their desires....you need to move on AllniteAllLucid.....and stop scape goating these people for your own agenda....Live and let live please, as you say it's what you want...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Just because I am a straight guy and love having sex and playtime with women, or playing with woman on woman does not make me a bad person. Just because seeing to guys together turns my anatomy hiding (as if I just got out of the icey waters of the north pole).But if thats what they want to do for their sexual pleasure gay or bi males goodluck to them. I am an all womans Man. Seeing two women getting it on is a turn on, two hot sexy WOMEN then me, oh or I mean any man I don't want two give my partner the wrong idea, she would be one of the other woman of course.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Amarli sincerely thanks for the input. Nope I am totally chillaxed and have been from the get-go , calm as a mothafucking mill-pond. If you read their emails you'll see that they're bloody hard to follow which lead me to ask more questions for clarification of rather dodgy sounding statements. The buggers still haven't answered my question (and they said they would) but frankly I don't really care if they answer or not. They don't have to but it would be alot more useful than just making guesses about my personal life , desires and 'agenda' which they haven't got a fucking clue about ----but that aspect HAS been hilarious lol I repeat again for the thousandth time that I haven't got an axe to grind with them personally but I hate ignorance , as to how much ignorance they possess I dunno , but there's certainly some. The most important thing to note here is that I HAVE NOT FORCED THEM INTO THE DEBATE , nor did I reveal their identities , nor did I originally have any intention of posting any more than their first one or two emails. AND THEY HAVE ASKED ON A FEW SEPARATE EMAILS TO HAVE THEIR EMAILS POSTED. So they are just plain talking a whole lotta horse shit. They are more than welcome to their brand of homophobia , and for the last time ; I COULD CARE LESS
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RHP User
15 years ago
Holidayfortwo , I was as straight as an arrow up until only about 2 years ago , I'd see gay guys together and just want to throw a bucket of icy water on them lol my how times have changed. I had so many intelligent , good looking gay or bi guys hit on me over the years but it kinda made me feel sick or at least uncomfortable. Exactly like you said ; like a bad case of shrinkage. I'm not saying this is gonna happen for you (so don't think I'm trying to convert all you homophones out there lol) but what happened for me is that I started reading some very deep and romantic books and they lead me think much more deeply about what it was like to be a woman , suddenly I could picture myself as a woman and then I felt a natural sexual attraction towards men. That never left me and actually increased upon experimenting. Sexuality is a very amazing and dynamic thing , it loves to throw the rule book out the window. I was SURE I was straight , and I had ZERO attraction to men , actually I often had repulsion , but then slowly slowly there was an awakening , and then KER-BLAM!!!!!!!! LOL this shit is magic :-)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Holidayfortwo , I was as straight as an arrow up until only about 2 years ago , I'd see gay guys together and just want to throw a bucket of icy water on them lol my how times have changed. I had so many intelligent , good looking gay or bi guys hit on me over the years but it kinda made me feel sick or at least uncomfortable. Exactly like you said ; like a bad case of shrinkage. I'm not saying this is gonna happen for you (so don't think I'm trying to convert all the homophobes and straight guys out there lol) but what happened for me is that I started reading some very deep and romantic books and they enabled me think much more deeply about what it was like to be a woman , suddenly I could picture myself as a woman and then I felt a natural sexual attraction towards men. That never left me and actually increased upon experimenting. Sexuality is a very amazing and dynamic thing , it loves to throw the rule book out the window. I was SURE I was straight , and I had ZERO attraction to men , actually I often had repulsion , but then slowly slowly there was an awakening , and then KER-BLAM!!!!!!!! LOL this shit is magic :-) I NEVER thought I would like to have another guys dick in my mouth or to touch his body sexually , I would have struggled to have even said those words , they would have been wrong wrong wrong lol but now I LOVE the idea and I LOVE to do it for real. Btw I still prefer woman however , and I think that's largely because of all the testerone etc in my body and just the sheer practicalities of dick n pussy and man-woman stuff that is to me still unbeatable , BUT now I do love cock :-)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' Quoting 'JustEnough' Maybe these Bi / Gay guys, can tell us what they like most about being Bi or Gay. Is it the Man to Man to talk? Unlikely. Some venues Ive been to guys don't don;t seem to speak much at all, in fact I laugh out loud at dudes who gesticulate with their hands rather than say the words... really that is very funny to watch. Do they like looking at Male bodies / cock? That much is obvious. You don't have to have same sex tendancies to enjoy looking at a handsome man or a beautiful woman. The admiration of matters of beauty ought not be retrained by questions of sexuality.. Don't you agree? I mean... The statue of David is a thing of beauty, as is the Venus de Milo... and you don't have to be a poofter to tell if a guy is handsome. What do they like about the way a male sucks his cock that is different to a female? As long as the person is enthusiastic about it, there's no apparent differences attributable to gender alone, in my experience. What do they like about the way a male kisses them and runs their hand on their bodies vs a lady. As long as the person is enthusiastic about it, there's no apparent differences attributable to gender alone, in my experience. There is however a tendancy for men to be more masculine... i.e. agrressive about it. How is anal giving different to giving a male vs a female. You can't stick your hand in his twat at the same time... and alternatively... she has no testicles or dick to grab onto. Furthermore... apart from the anotomical differences... men are "usually" more muscular and perhpas firmer. Do you really get hot about about anal recieving? It might surprise you to learn that not all men who are involved with having sex with other men are interested in having anal sex. Some are, some only penetrate, some only receive, some not at all. It's usually heterosexuals who are obsessed with penetration... I guess that's a difference.. but not universal to one particular sexual preference. Finger up ass does nothing for either than us together or in a swing situation it feels uncomfortable, Does it make you cum? So you dont have to masterbate conventional ways? I'm not sure where this kind of logic comes from. I've never cum by reason of a finger up my arse. I don;t think that has anything to do with a person's sexuality. Is it really true that these feelings above are a result of genetic codes we are born with? I do not think there is an inherited gay DNA string or gay gene.... but I think our sexuality is innate.... like your sense of taste. Just because your parents like spinach, doesn't mean that you ever will. And also nurturing. People need to feel comfortable with their sexuality and feel at liberty to express it. Therefore we should all be tolerant of all forms of sexuality? Or is this thread designed to make me feel good about my sexuality at the expense of others? I think ignorance sustains bigotry. Ultimately most of us are humanists and caring people, accepting of the nuances of individuals. When we are confronted by differences of opinion, of politics, religion, sexuality, appearance... it's the ignorance and lack of empathy that leads to disputes, mistrust and animosity. I think generally people are the same the world over... we are all humanists and paradoxically ignorant of each other. Hugs stalky We have been reading a book called "why men don't listen and women cant read maps" by Allan and Barbara Pease which clearly proves that you are actually born gay. I think everyone should read this book as it is a fantastic eye opening read with great facts. It has to do with the fact that we are all born female in the beginning and at about 6 to 8 weeks is when the x and y chromosomes are transferred, resulting in the changing sex of the baby. If not enough of one passes through it results in a boy but having feminine tendecies hence being gay and likewise if too many go across you will get the full lesbian and too many male genes(testosterone) have transferred. It is estimated that about 80 to 85% of males have mainly male-wired brains and abot 15-20% have brains that are feminised to a greater or lesser extent. Many of these in the latter group become gay. cindy
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RHP User
15 years ago
OK Krissy and Cindy. Is that the same book as Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus? That sounds quite acceptable logic that 15 to 20% of men may have differing attractions to being Bi / Gay. But when we look at females on this site the numbers seem to reverse ....5 to 10% are only attracted to men and 90 to 95% are Bi / Gay. Why do you think this is? It appears the straight female is the different type from the majority, was there a mishap with the straight female during developement of the baby?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Krissy_G' Ive often suggested this on a number of threads that deal with homosexuality, bisexuality and transexulism. Ide add that the fetus goes through three hormonal flushes and the endocrine process can be interrrupted by stresses on the mother.. It's true that the introduction of hormones influence the gender of the foetus and that interfering with that process can result in the expression of characteristics atypical to gender, but I think it's too simplistic to credit that with sexual preferences. At the very least, there would by now be a clear correlation between hormonal balances and sexuality, but I've never heard of one. If there was, the religious right would be sponsoring extensive research into whether Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) was a viable "cure for gayness", just as it's sometimes used for sorting out ambiguous genitalia in adolescents. The brain is just as capable of being rewired as genitalia, so it would seem that if it was that easy, it would have been done already.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' It's true that the introduction of hormones influence the gender of the foetus and that interfering with that process can result in the expression of characteristics atypical to gender, but I think it's too simplistic to credit that with sexual preferences. At the very least, there would by now be a clear correlation between hormonal balances and sexuality, but I've never heard of one. If there was, the religious right would be sponsoring extensive research into whether Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) was a viable "cure for gayness", just as it's sometimes used for sorting out ambiguous genitalia in adolescents. The brain is just as capable of being rewired as genitalia, so it would seem that if it was that easy, it would have been done already. I'm in the camp that says we don't know for certain yet. I've not been persuaded by speculation that it is somehow genetic. If so, I think it's fair to say that the "gay gene" would be found by now. Our individual inherited genetic maps do not "bake the perfect cake", being easily influenced by external factors, as has been shown on numerous occasions in the case of environmental contaminants to take one extreme example..... and lots of anecdotal evidence points to a person's sexuality being innate..... so it is quite a reasonable proposition that sexuality is determined in the womb but not pre-determined by our DNA. If you think Christian Fundamentalists will then use a self serving homophobic attitude to fiddle with babies in the womb, then you obviously think they are far more evil than I have given them credit for. If anything, the natural outcome has always been "God's way".. at least until an individual's free will comes into play.HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yeah I don't think it's as cut n dried as just the hormones either , altho they must have some swaying effect. And I'm a prime example ; ZERO attraction to males until I started thinking like a woman. I think there's a whole lot more going on........
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RHP User
15 years ago
Nope Krissy... that's not Miss Stalky.HUgsGaz
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' I'm in the camp that says we don't know for certain yet. I've not been persuaded by speculation that it is somehow genetic. If so, I think it's fair to say that the "gay gene" would be found by now. Our individual inherited genetic maps do not "bake the perfect cake", being easily influenced by external factors, as has been shown on numerous occasions in the case of environmental contaminants to take one extreme example..... and lots of anecdotal evidence points to a person's sexuality being innate..... so it is quite a reasonable proposition that sexuality is determined in the womb but not pre-determined by our DNA. If you think Christian Fundamentalists will then use a self serving homophobic attitude to fiddle with babies in the womb, then you obviously think they are far more evil than I have given them credit for. If anything, the natural outcome has always been "God's way".. at least until an individual's free will comes into play. I've been reading a book called 'Brainsex' at the moment and it deals with the physiological differences between the brains of men and women and the hormonal change at roughly 6 weeks. It was published in the late 80's and a lot of it is fairly common knowledge now, though it may have been more ground breaking then. I must confess that I find the hormone influence interesting, despite the fact that I don't find the book very enlightening.All the same, I've never heard of a report that states that the brains of gay men more closely resemble the brains of women than other men, but if it was a result of hormonal imbalance, this should be the case. Women process language with both hemispheres of their brains whereas men use only the right, so testing should be as simple as mapping these sorts of brain activity.As for the fundamentalists fiddling, I wasn't suggesting that it would be in vitro - more likely when that next wave of hormones ran through their systems when they hit puberty. Can't you see the progression? Baptism, First Communion, Altar Boy, Defaggotise, Ordainment...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' As for the fundamentalists fiddling, I wasn't suggesting that it would be in vitro - more likely when that next wave of hormones ran through their systems when they hit puberty. Can't you see the progression? Baptism, First Communion, Altar Boy, Defaggotise, Ordainment... lmfao... not exactly my understanding.... you seem to have missed a couple of more disturbing items from the list just after alter boy. Actually that's probably a little unfair of me to say... but I can live with the fat that I was only ever a choir boy.HugsGaz
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RHP User
15 years ago
It is absolutley amazing how many "Straight Guys" contact me for a blow job or mutual masturbation and when I ask what else they like they clam up and splutter they are not gay. Or the amount of guys who contact our cpls profile in RHP and say they are BI and all that means is they will allow another cock near the pussy they are engaging with. Be who you are and never judge unless you are will to be judged
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RHP User
15 years ago
Very interesting Krissy , I think one day we will know what causes our sexuality , and I think we'll find that even the sexuality we're 'hard-wired' with at birth is , although very powerful , not necessarily our fundamental sexuality. Yep mysterious stuff indeed :-) thank god life ain't all cut n dried and plain obvious lol
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RHP User
15 years ago
ho·mo·pho·bi·a (hm-fb-) n. 1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. 2. Behavior based on such a feeling. homo·phobe n. homo·phobic adj.
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RHP User
15 years ago
'As England's world cup-winning winger, rugby union star Ben Cohen has faced down his fair share of immovable obstacles. Now, after hanging up his boots for the last time, the 32-year-old is taking on sport's most formidable opponent: homophobia. This week Cohen, who won 57 caps and scored 31 tries for his country, sets out on a tour of the US on behalf of a new foundation set up in his name, devoted to fighting homophobia in sport. Although not gay himself, Cohen has become a gay icon in recent years and has decided to use his high profile to support gay and lesbian sportspeople struggling to come to terms with their sexuality in an unforgiving environment. Rights campaigners have hailed rugby's leading role in promoting diversity, whilst condemning "reticence" on the part of football bosses to support gay players. To date only one English footballer, Justin Fashanu, has come out as gay. "Rugby has been leading the way on diversity," said Ruth Hunt, director of public affairs for gay, lesbian and bisexual rights charity Stone- wall. "When heterosexual people take leadership roles it has an impact on the perceptions of younger, straight players which has a big impact on the culture of a sport." Ben Cohen's Acceptance Tour, which began in the UK last month, will visit six American cities.' *The Independent , UK
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Krissy_G' No one suggests that gay men have female brains or bi mens brains are half and half. Sexuality would only be but a small make up of the brain with all the other things that the darn thing has to contend with, that I think it would be virtually impossible to detect. True there are tests out there that can determine what arouses someone but does that make them gay or straight well I dont know thats another debate. But there is strong suggestions that interruptions during the hormonal baths can have an effect on our sexuality.Now once your born thats it. Your hardwired with your sexuality and nothing is going to change that. Introducing HRT at puberty will not change a thing with your brain but your physical development. This is why HRT is prescribed to transexuals at puberty. So their body may be more congruent with their mind. Sorry, I thought that you were suggesting exactly that gay men may have brains that more closely resemble those of women, as that's precisely what has been observed when hormones are manipulated. Perhaps there are other more subtle effects? I'm certainly no expert, so happy to entertain that idea. Even still, that would make the brain of a gay man physiologically different from that of a straight man - I'd have thought that by now, any such differences would have been identified.As for sexuality being hardwired, after reading a few books on neuroplasticity, I'm not convinced that much of what we think we are is hardwired. On review though, I think you're right about HRT being of no use once the brain has developed - it seems the die is cast in utero. HRT will help physically, but won't change the brain.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Krissy_G' Something Ive looked into quite a bit. Im transgendered and have tried to find a tangible explanation to explain why my mind felt the way it did to my wife (now ex cause stoopid anti gay marriage laws) and family. All the research thus far had indicated that the hormonal baths have an effect on our sexuality and mind gender. Maybe with advances in neuroendocronology some explanations could be provided but as with any research financial reward is the driving factor and rectifying a so called percieved abnormality just doesnt have the returns. When I first started my transition. Blood work indicated that my oestrogen levels were off the chart (and gawd it was good to have something physical to help explain my feelings). And as you know there are many examples of atypical gender and sexuality throughout the world. One that comes to mind is a female olympic athlete in the 1960's. Outwardly she was all woman but gender testing brought in determined her chromosomes were xy. Anyway no one should be discriminated on their race, sexuality or gender, hell attack them on their beliefs and opinions if they dont agree, but attcking the former shows ignorance. Wow! You obviously have a lot more experience with this topic than I do - apologies if I presented my fairly superficial knowledge in a dogmatic way. I'm sure you're right about research being driven by potential market... and that market not really being there.There are numerous cases of atypical sexuality - Caster Semenya comes to mind. She's a runner whose gender was questioned, but I think the allegations ended up being withdrawn. Nobody should discriminate against or attack anyone for anything, but none of us is perfect. It's far more interesting to discuss these things than to squabble...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Krissy_G' Ive also had to put up with the discrimination, hatred and bigotory. Unless you go through this discrimination or know someone who has the average person has no idea what minority groups go through. To see someone with that much hatred in their eyes that you fear for your physical health is an extremely disturbing experience to go through. Im strong through my experience but its no wonder that people take their lives if they dont have that inner strength and are continually harrassed. Yeah I know I get on my high horse about issues of sexuality and gender but if my words can contribute to tolerance and understanding then thats a good thing. I haven't suffered discrimination of that magnitude at all. I have friends who've suffered in their own ways and I find it very disturbing that people feel so free to impose their own opinions on others. It's one thing to put forth a case, but it's entirely another to do it by stealth or out of vindictiveness. (Sydneysiders, look for "HIV+" tags next time you're wandering around Newtown. Some coward got hold of a database...)The very best of luck to you Krissy - your words certainly provided me with some understanding. Well done!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Not doubting your experiences but people are often quite resistant to standing out from their mob... That is, to socialise we'll go out of our way to adopt culturally specific behaviour, even blinding us of our own inclinations.... I mean... history is filled with evidence of blinkered behaviour... wtf were you thinking?? lolz. There are other reasons for denying your sexuality besides being alienated.... and I'm not surprised that you were to aware of your sexual preferences.. I would expect that most people dismiss self sex attraction without any conscious recognition, being outside the identity chosen means it is dismissed because it doesn't fit the self image. As for Mr limpy.... well anxt does that sure enough.HugsStalky Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' Holidayfortwo , I was as straight as an arrow up until only about 2 years ago , I'd see gay guys together and just want to throw a bucket of icy water on them lol my how times have changed. I had so many intelligent , good looking gay or bi guys hit on me over the years but it kinda made me feel sick or at least uncomfortable. Exactly like you said ; like a bad case of shrinkage. I'm not saying this is gonna happen for you (so don't think I'm trying to convert all you homophones out there lol) but what happened for me is that I started reading some very deep and romantic books and they lead me think much more deeply about what it was like to be a woman , suddenly I could picture myself as a woman and then I felt a natural sexual attraction towards men. That never left me and actually increased upon experimenting. Sexuality is a very amazing and dynamic thing , it loves to throw the rule book out the window. I was SURE I was straight , and I had ZERO attraction to men , actually I often had repulsion , but then slowly slowly there was an awakening , and then KER-BLAM!!!!!!!! LOL this shit is magic :-)
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billecart
15 years ago
true that krissy ive always had the live and let live, after all we are all decended from the Bonobo monkeys im sure. then those funny homo phobes had to give us there guilt
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RHP User
15 years ago
You might be a decendant of monkeys Billecart. Do you have some evidence that the rest of the worldwide scientific community is unaware of?? It's called the theory of evolution because it's just a theory, not a fact. Extremely off topic but i couldn't resist. Lol (Mr)
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RHP User
15 years ago
I totally agree that people on here have the right to say exactly what kind of person they are looking for to play with.HOWEVER.There are ways of stating such wants that are not so offensive as to detract from the fact that they just dont like it.It would be like me saying...I dont play with anyone from New Zealand because they are all sheep fuckers.I mean, really.If you dont like bi guys....then thats fine!!but dont try to justify it by implying they are any less than upstanding citizens.JMO...BJxxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yes it is good to hear some one say that our choises should be respected.. It is the Mrs choice not to play with bi men and women have the right to say no. Unfortunately there are woman haters on this site like ALLNIGHTALLLUCID who have no respect for what woman want and started this thread making a mockery of personal choice. It is no wonder he is single living apart from his partner and children. And ppl should be aware of the fact that a womans choices will not be respected by him. And nay replies of rejection to him are likely to be made a mockery of in a forum. We dont play with ppl who are into fisting, spanking hard, Breath play, rimming, either. Yet these personal choices were never made a mockery of why only this?. The esposure this thread has given us has been real great, got a lot of good quality leads and some real fun times.NZH
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RHP User
15 years ago
But Allnite you asked them about their preferences, you provoked them, you prodded them. Why would you do that unless you wanted a reaction. Then you posted their messages on public space without their permission. That was all out of order. People can have their own preferences and if you don't fit those preferences why message them and pull them up on it ..... If that was not bad enough you then went and make this fake thread so that you could display the messages. People are allowed their preferences and their privacy.
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RHP User
15 years ago
But Allnite you asked them about their preferences, you provoked them, you prodded them. Why would you do that unless you wanted a reaction. Then you posted their messages on public space without their permission. That was all out of order. People can have their own preferences and if you don't fit those preferences why message them and pull them up on it ..... If that was not bad enough you then went and make this fake thread so that you could display the messages. People are allowed their preferences and their privacy.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'JustEnough' Maybe these Bi / Gay guys, can tell us what they like most about being Bi or Gay. Is it the Man to Man to talk? Do they like looking at Male bodies / cock? What do they like about the way a male sucks his cock that is different to a female? What do they like about the way a male kisses them and runs their hand on their bodies vs a lady. How is anal giving different to giving a male vs a female. Do you really get hot about about anal recieving? Finger up ass does nothing for either than us together or in a swing situation it feels uncomfortable, Does it make you cum? So you dont have to masterbate conventional ways? Is it really true that these feelings above are a result of genetic codes we are born with? Therefore we should all be tolerant of all forms of sexuality? Or is this thread designed to make me feel good about my sexuality at the expense of others? I'm bi but really I'm about 80% straight, 20% gay. Honestly I can take or leave most of the whole boy/boy thing, but being in the presence of a huge erect dick is what keeps me coming back, even if I don't touch it I hardly care, just looking at it is enough for me.
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AsingleguySEQ
15 years ago
We are a couple who play as a couple ... never otherwise. We also have preferences in our profile - and some times wonder if people ever read them?We also state we have no interest in bi/bi curious guys. Our/his choice. We are not homophobic (some of our best friends are bi/gay). But we have had a few bad experiences with such men who do not seem to/want to understand our choices/prefernces. So it is easier to say thanks - but no thanks!We both like the look of Nz - but they say they are not into people with facial hair - he wears a goaty (his/our choice, and I/she happens to like the tickle). We respect their choice!We say "he is the gatekeeper ... but she holds the key". Simple. If either are not comfortable then that is the end of it. We do not waste time talking to anyone who cannot read. If we meet and either (especially her) is not comfortable nothing happens. No debates. We walk (and have done). We are in this lifestyle as we enjoy it. Not because we have to. Some times we just wish that people would accept a (polite) thank you but no thank you as it is meant. You are not for us. It is not personal. It is our choice.That's our t'uppeneth!! :-)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'foreverlove7985' You might be a decendant of monkeys Billecart. Do you have some evidence that the rest of the worldwide scientific community is unaware of?? It's called the theory of evolution because it's just a theory, not a fact. Extremely off topic but i couldn't resist. Lol (Mr) In science everything is considered a theory, in recognition of the fact that humans are fallible and developments and discoveries will continue to occur, but in fact there is plenty of evidence that the rest of the worldwide scientific community (and the general community for that matter, outside of certain cloistered bible-belts) is thoroughly aware of.But as you say, well off topic.
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RHP User
15 years ago
... nobody actually suggests we're descended from bonobo chimpanzees, merely that we have common ancestors.I do like bonobo chimps though. Cheeky little buggers.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Oh my the generalisations are flying thick around here!I have had private convos with a couple like Just Enough before (is it you guys with a new name?) and I must say I could understand their reasons for their views but really didn't agree with their conclusions. I do believe everyone is allowed choices and as Stalky said to be discriminate about who they want to sleep with. BUT when their reasons to discriminate are hurtful then I think it best to show some discretion...discretionary discrimination - I might have ti Wiki it!As for what seems the most hurtful thing said above about safety; is a bi guy less safe than a straight guy? Is a bi girl less safe? Is a bi girl more safe than a straight guy? Gee how does one get so judgemental on such wide groups of people?OK from OUR experience: We have gay male friends - we'd trust them to mind our kids, they have never stuck anything up my arse apart from some witty naughty humour. We have played with a few couples with bi guys, have stated Mr Pup isnt and had not one ounce of pressure for anything more. BUT we have played with straight couples who don't have anal sex together where the other male has tried to stick things up Mrs Pups butt or asked her to stick things up his!It is ludicrous to say it's a safety issue. When I first read it I thought it would more have been the perception was that a bi guy might root around heaps more thereby making him a higher STD risk which might have a little merit but really rooting ANYONE on RHP will increase your risk of STDs if you don't do it safely, surely??????Now on to more important things...how dare anyone discriminate on where and how much hair someone has or doesn't have lol Hey Raoulscate we like facial hair (ok ok we are a bit discriminatory if she has a goatee too)
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15 years ago
Quoting 'foreverlove7985' You might be a decendant of monkeys Billecart. Do you have some evidence that the rest of the worldwide scientific community is unaware of?? It's called the theory of evolution because it's just a theory, not a fact. Extremely off topic but i couldn't resist. Lol (Mr) ...now didn't I read somewhere that monkeys participate in lots of gay stuff too?There are Laws of science, which are pretty damn stable but new information will always lead to a tweak or two. Yep most things stay as scientific theories as any scientist will admit they can't be 100% sure they are 100% right. But I would have to say the only reason Evolution is not a Law and remains a theory is due to the influence and power of religion.I think the rest of the worldwide scientific community would agree unless they are scared by their gods?Oh and evolution does not preclude there being a god/gods or many other fanciful "theories" out there. A lot can co-exist although it seems religion (a man made organisation to control people) cant find a way to incorporate it.Sorry I couldn't resist either
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RHP User
15 years ago
A study done at the University of Georgia in 1996 confirms that that men who describe themselves as homophobic are the same men who are physically aroused by watching gay porn.The irony of the situation appears to be that truly heterosexual men are secure in their sexuality and do not need to be homophobic, meaning that what gays have long said -- that overtly anti-gay aggression is a sign of suppressed homosexuality -- bears some degree of truth.The study monitored arousal by directly gauging changes to the men’s penises. Such changes occur involuntarily and as a result of sexual arousal. When shown images of lesbian sexual activity and heterosexual congress, both groups -- heterosexual men who had no problem with gays and men who said they were straight and homophobic -- registered sexual arousal.Gay porn elicited arousal from the homophobic group, but not from the non-homophobic group. The men in the homophobic group claimed to be disgusted and turned off -- but their bodies said the opposite.The study was published in the August, 1996, edition of the Journal of Abnormal Psychiatry. "Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia -- the fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies," read the release.HUgsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'puppy' Quoting 'foreverlove7985' You might be a decendant of monkeys Billecart. Do you have some evidence that the rest of the worldwide scientific community is unaware of?? It's called the theory of evolution because it's just a theory, not a fact. Extremely off topic but i couldn't resist. Lol (Mr) ...now didn't I read somewhere that monkeys participate in lots of gay stuff too? There are Laws of science, which are pretty damn stable but new information will always lead to a tweak or two. Yep most things stay as scientific theories as any scientist will admit they can't be 100% sure they are 100% right. But I would have to say the only reason Evolution is not a Law and remains a theory is due to the influence and power of religion. I think the rest of the worldwide scientific community would agree unless they are scared by their gods? Oh and evolution does not preclude there being a god/gods or many other fanciful "theories" out there. A lot can co-exist although it seems religion (a man made organisation to control people) cant find a way to incorporate it. Sorry I couldn't resist either My reasons for not believing the theory have nothing to do with religion as i am an athiest. If you wish to beat up on religions i'll be the first one on the bandwagon. Although its truths are never final, a scientific fact is something that has been confirmed repeatedly, a theory is an assumption based on limited information or knowledge. now lets get back to the laughing at homophobes or defending women or whatever the fuck this thread was about before i started dribbling shit. (Mr)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' A study done at the University of Georgia in 1996 confirms that that men who describe themselves as homophobic are the same men who are physically aroused by watching gay porn. Most guys we think in the swinging scene, will look at the size etc of another cock and think I am little bigger, or is that what my wife is going to get shortly....watch her face as he enters. Or your wife might say hang on this or suck this while I scratch my pussy for sec, ...hot and hotter! But If guys watched two guys by themselves kissing or having anal intercourse, my reaction is soft...and softer. So, can studies be bent to the outcome you want?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' A study done at the University of Georgia in 1996 confirms that that men who describe themselves as homophobic are the same men who are physically aroused by watching gay porn.The irony of the situation appears to be that truly heterosexual men are secure in their sexuality and do not need to be homophobic, meaning that what gays have long said -- that overtly anti-gay aggression is a sign of suppressed homosexuality -- bears some degree of truth. Although it was a rehash of a fifteen year old study, it was still interesting. I wonder whether a similar study has been carried out on heterophobes? Might a over-stridently held position about the wrongness of any other sexuality be an indicator of a secret desire to adopt that lifestyle? Could some of the most zealous gays or bisexuals be harbouring a craving to be straight, but be too afraid to renounce their sexuality? Logic would say that this should be the case, wouldn't it?
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RHP User
15 years ago
As social beings we all try to fit in with the group. That being the case, as many a gay person will tell you... they never wanted to be gay... it's just who they are... the homosexuals craving to be straight are in the majority teenagers coming to grips with their sexuality.. and yes.... there should be more support.HugsG Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'stalky' A study done at the University of Georgia in 1996 confirms that that men who describe themselves as homophobic are the same men who are physically aroused by watching gay porn.The irony of the situation appears to be that truly heterosexual men are secure in their sexuality and do not need to be homophobic, meaning that what gays have long said -- that overtly anti-gay aggression is a sign of suppressed homosexuality -- bears some degree of truth. Although it was a rehash of a fifteen year old study, it was still interesting. I wonder whether a similar study has been carried out on heterophobes? Might a over-stridently held position about the wrongness of any other sexuality be an indicator of a secret desire to adopt that lifestyle? Could some of the most zealous gays or bisexuals be harbouring a craving to be straight, but be too afraid to renounce their sexuality? Logic would say that this should be the case, wouldn't it?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' As social beings we all try to fit in with the group. That being the case, as many a gay person will tell you... they never wanted to be gay... it's just who they are... the homosexuals craving to be straight are in the majority teenagers coming to grips with their sexuality.. and yes.... there should be more support.Ah, Stalky, you're a master of misdirection! I bet you do magic tricks, right?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'puppy'Oh my the generalisations are flying thick around here! I have had private convos with a couple like Just Enough before (is it you guys with a new name?) and I must say I could understand their reasons for their views but really didn't agree with their conclusions. I do believe everyone is allowed choices and as Stalky said to be discriminate about who they want to sleep with. BUT when their reasons to discriminate are hurtful then I think it best to show some discretion...discretionary discrimination - I might have ti Wiki it! As for what seems the most hurtful thing said above about safety; is a bi guy less safe than a straight guy? Is a bi girl less safe? Is a bi girl more safe than a straight guy? Gee how does one get so judgemental on such wide groups of people? Nothing we have said in this thread do I consider hurtfull to any one person or the bisexual lifestyle of others, we have asked questions. But we think the opposite this thread was created at the expense of a certain sexual group to make fun of them, and then went on to identify and copy private corrospondance and ridicule one particular couple. The fundemental rule of no means no and its inpolite to ask why. Appears to be lacking with some. We would never in real life tell a person why we didnt want to play, we would just say "no thankyou" Our personal view is not to have negatives on our profile about certain sexualities etc. Keeping your profile in the positive we believe positive sells not negative. But here on the forums should we not express our opinions? Should we agree with everyone? as they are general conversations we try very hard not to aim at a particular person and keep in general but will give some posters their own back occasionally when we get abused personally, we simply now think "never want to meet that person and block them"
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'foreverlove7985' Quoting 'foreverlove7985' now lets get back to the laughing at homophobes or defending women or whatever the fuck this thread was about before i started dribbling shit. (Mr) :) if we both brush our teeth everything will smell better!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'JustEnough' But here on the forums should we not express our opinions? Should we agree with everyone? as they are general conversations we try very hard not to aim at a particular person and keep in general but will give some posters their own back occasionally when we get abused personally, we simply now think "never want to meet that person and block them" Hey guys, yep opinions should be aired but we should all try and do it with due care. Can't say I personally always succeed in following my own advice but I do try. The anonymity of the ether allows us to be brutal, maybe everyone that posts here should treat their responses are to someone they care about that has feelings - then we can have great and differing opinions without the hurt and subsequent tirades that the forums oft sink into.Sometimes hard to do but worth trying?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'stalky' As social beings we all try to fit in with the group. That being the case, as many a gay person will tell you... they never wanted to be gay... it's just who they are... the homosexuals craving to be straight are in the majority teenagers coming to grips with their sexuality.. and yes.... there should be more support.Ah, Stalky, you're a master of misdirection! I bet you do magic tricks, right? lmfao.... yeah... well.. I'm probably just like Meeka said... I'll fuck anything with a whole in it. hehe. Was it good for you? :pHugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky'lmfao.... yeah... well.. I'm probably just like Meeka said... I'll fuck anything with a whole in it. hehe. Was it good for you? :pWith all due respect, I'd suggest that you'd enjoy it more than I would...
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RHP User
15 years ago
I really object to that word ... EG .. if I think queers are disgusting that is not a Phobia .. it's an opinion .. :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Can you read .. did you miss the word .. " IF " ..
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RHP User
15 years ago
Actually, no, Cuccy6. An opinion is an intellectual position. Disgust is a physiological reaction... ... And it's interesting you'd choose disgust to substantiate your argument, because of all physiological reactions, it's one of the most fear-based. If, on the other hand, you think homosexuality is wrong, well, that'd be an opinion.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Darn tootin'... and my dick twitched a little bit while I was reading that.. and that's a fact. :pHugsStalky Quoting '0_DarkHorse_0' Actually, no, Cuccy6. An opinion is an intellectual position. Disgust is a physiological reaction... ... And it's interesting you'd choose disgust to substantiate your argument, because of all physiological reactions, it's one of the most fear-based. If, on the other hand, you think homosexuality is wrong, well, that'd be an opinion.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Krissy_G'Now Cuccy Lets do some word play and replace queers with "any ethinticity you want" and Phobia with racism. Quoting 'Cuccy6' I really object to that word ... EG .. if I think queers are disgusting that is not a Phobia .. it's an opinion .. :)Ide call you a racist. I don't support Cuccy6's position in any way, but I don't think that inferring that they may also be racist is fair. Replace queers with brussels sprouts and the word game looks a whole lot less sinister. In case you're wondering, I'm fully brusselist...
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RHP User
15 years ago
"Now Cuccy Lets do some word play and replace queers with "any ethinticity you want" and Phobia with racism. Quoting 'Cuccy6' I really object to that word ... EG .. if I think queers are disgusting that is not a Phobia .. it's an opinion .. :) Ide call you a racist." I was beginning to wonder if you are a retard .. but you so kindly removed all doubt..
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RHP User
15 years ago
I dont give a shit if you're gay...straight...bi...black...white...yellow...pink with purple polkadots.If you're a wanker...then you can just fuck right off.JMO...BJxxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
... If we could all please turn to Stalky's response, we see both an example of an opinion (darn tootin') and a physiological reaction (dick twitching)... Albeit somewhat more -phile than -phobe...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Krissy_G' I was in no way inferring that they were racist. Using ethinticity was a way to highlight someones opinion may be seen as anything but an opinion based on the words they choose to use. Whether I agree or not, Cuccy6 won't be getting any more defence from me!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Geez Cuccy6 way to run in with both barrels loaded ! Homophobia described in this thread goes for both men and women, covering both bi and bi-curious (ya know, just like the little missus ) so when Krissy asked that obvious question you got your ass hairs all up on her and went down the 'Attack her mental capacity' road. . You're enttiled to have your opinion or say on here but there's no need to be plain fucking rude about it
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RHP User
15 years ago
I was merely asking a Rhetorical question that begun with the word IF .. Sorry if all and sundy don't understand english and missinterpreted evrything I said But my original post was very polite. :))
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RHP User
15 years ago
I was talking about the ensuing posts. I'm a firm believer in "Its never too late to unfuck something " LOL Go on, you can do it s...ss..sss.sorry for the retard comment I dare ya
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RHP User
15 years ago
Well said MissBJ! That may well be my favourite all time post. (Mr)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Im a homo phobe and proud of it!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'D_G_T' I was talking about the ensuing posts. I'm a firm believer in "Its never too late to unfuck something " LOL Go on, you can do it s...ss..sss.sorry for the retard comment I dare ya Can we say sorry on their behalf pleaseeeeeeeee sorry.................. sorry And now for the exciting bit DGT Whats the punishment / penance? Please make it good
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Cuccy6' I was merely asking a Rhetorical question that begun with the word IF .. Sorry if all and sundy don't understand english and missinterpreted evrything I said But my original post was very polite. :)) Jeez Cuccy, you're really bringing the pedant out in me, although to be fair it doesn't take much to do that...To start with, I think the word you're looking for is hypothetical rather than rhetorical --And then, you phrased your hypothetical in an ambiguous way, so it could either be hypothetical or (as most people interpreted it) not, by writing "if I think queers are disgusting" rather than "if I were to think..." or "if I happened to think..."So people here do actually understand English, but English also happens to be one of the more ambiguous languages.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Why do you object to the word homophobia??? Because, ( as i tried to explain with an example in my original post ) Not liking queers is NOT a phobia BTW at no time did I say that I don.t like queers . now go ahead se if you can missinterpret this post too.. :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Errr... Actually, no, Cuccy6. An opinion is an intellectual position. Disgust is a physiological reaction... ... And it's interesting you'd choose disgust to substantiate your argument, because of all physiological reactions, it's one of the most fear-based. If, on the other hand, you think homosexuality is wrong, well, that'd be an opinion Actually moron if I think something is Disgusting that is Not a Physiological reaction it is my thought and opinion.. get a Dictionary
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RHP User
15 years ago
I was talking about the ensuing posts. I'm a firm believer in "Its never too late to unfuck something " LOL Go on, you can do it s...ss..sss.sorry for the retard comment I dare ya do you mean the ensuing post where she called me a RACIST ... sorry but if she can deduce that from my opinion on the word Phobia .. then she really is a retard
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'JustEnough' Quoting 'D_G_T' I was talking about the ensuing posts. I'm a firm believer in "Its never too late to unfuck something " LOL Go on, you can do it s...ss..sss.sorry for the retard comment I dare ya Can we say sorry on their behalf pleaseeeeeeeee sorry.................. sorry And now for the exciting bit DGT Whats the punishment / penance? Please make it good Awww c'mon....you know I'm gonna have to say the punishment HAS to have something to do with anal invasion Bwahaahaaaaa But I promise to be very gentle........or not Dag xx
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15 years ago
Quoting 'aussiepeaches'Im a homo phobe and proud of it! I let you out of the basement too soon, for the brainwashing to sink in..... back down you go.......yep you squeeze those perky lil cheeks together realllllll tight I'm just tightening up my biggest attachment *insert very very very evil face* You know you want it
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15 years ago
Quoting 'D_G_T' Quoting 'aussiepeaches'Im a homo phobe and proud of it! I let you out of the basement too soon, for the brainwashing to sink in..... back down you go.......yep you squeeze those perky lil cheeks together realllllll tight I'm just tightening up my biggest attachment *insert very very very evil face* You know you want ithaha give it ur best shot..i can squeeze pretty hard!
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RHP User
15 years ago
... you sad, sad little man. I did have a dictionary somewhere, but I think you might have stolen it to wipe your arse with.I hope I'm not as angry as you when I'm as old as you.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Cuccy6'Well Done , Cuccy6 you can stop now , you the top homophobia On this site well done.you did not make any good points , but you were , very funny & hey that was the point of this thread . Yes homophias are funnyErrr..Actually, no, Cuccy6. An opinion is an intellectual position. Disgust is a physiological reaction... ... And it's interesting you'd choose disgust to substantiate your argument, because of all physiological reactions, it's one of the most fear-based. If, on the other hand, you think homosexuality is wrong, well, that'd be an opinion Actually moron if I think something is Disgusting that is Not a Physiological reaction it is my thought and opinion.. get a Dictionary
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RHP User
15 years ago
I can't resist tonight... Do you know what’s wrong with the world? Its people that are intolerant of anything outside of what they perceive as normal. Since day 1 (however it all started - science vs. religion) we’ve been throwing ‘witches’ off cliffs, hanging people for thinking the world is round and that the Earth isn’t the centre of the universe etc. My point ladies and gentleman is this. Extremes in any sense are a dangerous thing. I just think with a little more acceptance and a little less judgement the world might be a better place for everyone. For those people that throw around that homosexuality is wrong because the bible says so - the bible is just a business plan used to control the minions. I laugh when people post about the bible in these forums... I’m sorry but if you’re on RHP and you’re deeply into the bible then you know you’re going to hell right? Swinging is the tool of the Devil apparently... Now I am a happily married heterosexual man and I would like to think that if I ever had a gay child that society would treat them based on their character and not their sexuality. Nothing like a late night opinionated rant!
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RHP User
15 years ago
" Cuccy really sweetie how did you interperet my post as calling you a racist " I think it was the bit bit where you said ... " Ide call you a racist " ... that did it.. :))
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'beachbody' I can't resist tonight... Do you know what’s wrong with the world? Its people that are intolerant of anything outside of what they perceive as normal. Since day 1 (however it all started - science vs. religion) we’ve been throwing ‘witches’ off cliffs, hanging people for thinking the world is round and that the Earth isn’t the centre of the universe etc. My point ladies and gentleman is this. Extremes in any sense are a dangerous thing. I just think with a little more acceptance and a little less judgement the world might be a better place for everyone. For those people that throw around that homosexuality is wrong because the bible says so - the bible is just a business plan used to control the minions. I laugh when people post about the bible in these forums... I’m sorry but if you’re on RHP and you’re deeply into the bible then you know you’re going to hell right? Swinging is the tool of the Devil apparently... Now I am a happily married heterosexual man and I would like to think that if I ever had a gay child that society would treat them based on their character and not their sexuality. Nothing like a late night opinionated rant! Oh my I think I love your Mr Beachbody..arghhh that'd mean I might be coming down with the dreaded Homosexualism..damn I'm off to squash my nuts in the vice and Araldite my arse shut just in case I can't help but bend over in front of Stalky!!!OMG sometimes we just have to laugh at how sad people can be to stop from getting depressed!
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