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Homo-phobes , what makes them so hilarious????
June 02 2011
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RHP User
15 years ago
Bigotry isn't limited to any one sexual identity. Common conversations I've had.... bi-sexuality is no-man's land. It's not a legitimate sexuality. You're gay and you just won't accept it. She's such a bitch she turned him gay. "Are you married"?... why do you ask?.... "A lot of married guys come here for sex?"... and why do you think that is? "they're obviously not getting any at home". You mean.. they're not getting any sex at home..... or they're not getting any dick at home? ... dumb face... "She obviously sux in bed".HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
They look so cute all lined up....butts to the wall......ass cheeks firmly clenched if only they knew how damn good even a finger up the ass felt should be called missin'out-phobes LOL
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15 years ago
Maybe these Bi / Gay guys, can tell us what they like most about being Bi or Gay. Is it the Man to Man to talk? Do they like looking at Male bodies / cock? What do they like about the way a male sucks his cock that is different to a female? What do they like about the way a male kisses them and runs their hand on their bodies vs a lady. How is anal giving different to giving a male vs a female. Do you really get hot about about anal recieving? Finger up ass does nothing for either than us together or in a swing situation it feels uncomfortable, Does it make you cum? So you dont have to masterbate conventional ways? Is it really true that these feelings above are a result of genetic codes we are born with? Therefore we should all be tolerant of all forms of sexuality? Or is this thread designed to make me feel good about my sexuality at the expense of others?
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RHP User
15 years ago
when they find out they're not a gay or bi boy's type and can't fathom why not. LOLYou're the straight type, there's a fair chance that straight is NOT their type. heheh.xx Sarah
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15 years ago
Oh Sarah and then they actually get a little upset that they're not found attractive by a Bi or Gay yep too funny and too cute LOL
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15 years ago
Often the topic of Sexuality elicits varying degrees of emotions.Some people in the community at large have subscribed to the notion that homosexuality is a disease.To those People i ask this question...If homosexuality is a disease, can I call into work ‘gay’
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RHP User
15 years ago
I'll chuck in an email I recieved , it's a real doozy , should get a good laugh at first rate ignorance. I'll be clear and say that for me it's not a laugh at those people themselves but rather it's a laugh at their DEEP ignorance. I'll post it as soon as I can get to a pc , cheers , Loz
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'JustEnough' Is it really true that these feelings above are a result of genetic codes we are born with? I recently asked this very question of the lovely forum crew and it was decided that your sexuality is something which most believe is somehow genetic....it is a tough question to answer but some very valid points were raised - if you are interested follow this link to read the responses : http://www.redhotpie.com.au/Adult-Forums/Born-or-bred-32449 . I have a very seriously homophobic brother - to the point of he didnt invite one of his female cousins to his wedding because she would have wanted to bring her partner but did invite the same cousins two brothers and father. . I am amused by the guys who dont like the concept of two guys together (because being gay is wrong) but the idea of two women together is really hot for them....the difference here is?????? . The best line I have heard never came from a homphobic person but a much more tolerant woman who said to me : "quite possibly they are scared because they are unsure of their own sexuality" - that has always rung true in my mind. . My homophobic brother turns a blind eye to my life choices - he doesnt accept them he just ignores them. For laughs sometimes I like to tease him with the idea of me bringing a female lover to his place - and staying the night....I do sometimes wonder watching my baby brother (all of 10 years of age) how the homophobic brother of ours is going to cope when he finds out that the baby brother is more likely to follow in my footsteps (sexually) then his.....probably turn a blind eye to that too. . Kisses Focus
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky'Bigotry isn't limited to any one sexual identity. Common conversations I've had.... bi-sexuality is no-man's land. It's not a legitimate sexuality. You're gay and you just won't accept it. She's such a bitch she turned him gay. "Are you married"?... why do you ask?.... "A lot of married guys come here for sex?"... and why do you think that is? "they're obviously not getting any at home". You mean.. they're not getting any sex at home..... or they're not getting any dick at home? ... dumb face... "She obviously sux in bed".HugsStalky Too funny! People can be such A-HOLES!!! Fuk em All! Yerrr Harrr!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'JustEnough' Maybe these Bi / Gay guys, can tell us what they like most about being Bi or Gay. Is it the Man to Man to talk? Unlikely. Some venues Ive been to guys don't don;t seem to speak much at all, in fact I laugh out loud at dudes who gesticulate with their hands rather than say the words... really that is very funny to watch.Do they like looking at Male bodies / cock?That much is obvious. You don't have to have same sex tendancies to enjoy looking at a handsome man or a beautiful woman. The admiration of matters of beauty ought not be retrained by questions of sexuality.. Don't you agree? I mean... The statue of David is a thing of beauty, as is the Venus de Milo... and you don't have to be a poofter to tell if a guy is handsome. What do they like about the way a male sucks his cock that is different to a female?As long as the person is enthusiastic about it, there's no apparent differences attributable to gender alone, in my experience. What do they like about the way a male kisses them and runs their hand on their bodies vs a lady.As long as the person is enthusiastic about it, there's no apparent differences attributable to gender alone, in my experience. There is however a tendancy for men to be more masculine... i.e. agrressive about it. How is anal giving different to giving a male vs a female.You can't stick your hand in his twat at the same time... and alternatively... she has no testicles or dick to grab onto. Furthermore... apart from the anotomical differences... men are "usually" more muscular and perhpas firmer. Do you really get hot about about anal recieving? It might surprise you to learn that not all men who are involved with having sex with other men are interested in having anal sex. Some are, some only penetrate, some only receive, some not at all. It's usually heterosexuals who are obsessed with penetration... I guess that's a difference.. but not universal to one particular sexual preference.Finger up ass does nothing for either than us together or in a swing situation it feels uncomfortable, Does it make you cum? So you dont have to masterbate conventional ways?I'm not sure where this kind of logic comes from. I've never cum by reason of a finger up my arse. I don;t think that has anything to do with a person's sexuality. Is it really true that these feelings above are a result of genetic codes we are born with? I do not think there is an inherited gay DNA string or gay gene.... but I think our sexuality is innate.... like your sense of taste. Just because your parents like spinach, doesn't mean that you ever will. And also nurturing. People need to feel comfortable with their sexuality and feel at liberty to express it.Therefore we should all be tolerant of all forms of sexuality? Or is this thread designed to make me feel good about my sexuality at the expense of others? I think ignorance sustains bigotry. Ultimately most of us are humanists and caring people, accepting of the nuances of individuals. When we are confronted by differences of opinion, of politics, religion, sexuality, appearance... it's the ignorance and lack of empathy that leads to disputes, mistrust and animosity. I think generally people are the same the world over... we are all humanists and paradoxically ignorant of each other. Hugsstalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
So.... a new name and a new profile huh?HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yep so this beast of ignorance can be slain with the sword of knowledge , that's obviously where I'm trying to go with this so that ALL people can gain. The 'straight' people can gain something too. And I want a giggle....as for genetics , dunno , there are many reasons like Stalky said , I think a biggie would be past life mental impressions (which some people will laugh at lol) , I mean if you were a girl that loved cock for 97 years last life then wouldn't ya still have some cravings for it this life???? Just coz you're driving a man's body now instead of a woman's doesn't necessarily mean it's all left behind. And the same would hold true if you went from male to female bodies ; you may still wanna taste that pussy , finger it , kiss the other girls , make her cum , fuck her with a strap-on???? Lol take her!!!! Suck on those beautiful breasts and lick her nipples , feel her soft ass and stroke her tapering thighs , mmmmmmmm yep you get the picture , and if anyone's wondering ----YES there is STACKS of scientific evidence for reincarnation , personally I'm completely convinced that it's a scientific fact. Well it could be something to think about....some of those big towering apes you see walking around (not talking about you Stalky , no offense lol) , were they once little girls playing with dollies and later putting on lippy n getting wet pussies over James Dean???? ;-)
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15 years ago
Yep so this beast of ignorance can be slain with the sword of knowledge , that's obviously where I'm trying to go with this so that ALL people can gain. The 'straight' people can gain something too. And I want a giggle....as for genetics , dunno , there are many reasons like Stalky said , I think a biggie would be past life mental impressions (which some people will laugh at lol) , I mean if you were a girl that loved cock for 97 years last life then wouldn't ya still have some cravings for it this life???? Just coz you're driving a man's body now instead of a woman's doesn't necessarily mean it's all left behind. And the same would hold true if you went from male to female bodies ; you may still wanna taste that pussy , finger it , kiss the other girls , make her cum , fuck her with a strap-on???? Lol take her!!!! Suck on those beautiful breasts and lick her nipples , feel her soft ass and stroke her tapering thighs , mmmmmmmm yep you get the picture , and if anyone's wondering ----YES there is STACKS of scientific evidence for reincarnation , personally I'm completely convinced that it's a scientific fact. Well it could be something to think about....some of those big towering apes you see walking around (not talking about you Stalky , no offense lol) , were they once little girls playing with dollies and later putting on lippy n getting wet pussies over James Dean???? ;-) , Loz
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' So.... a new name and a new profile huh?HugsStalky Black eye peas...."Just cant get enough"......2011 ....nice song Same profile, just a change .....but we do have one on the dark side too!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' you may still wanna taste that pussy , finger it , kiss the other girls , make her cum , fuck her with a strap-on???? Lol take her!!!! Suck on those beautiful breasts and lick her nipples , feel her soft ass and stroke her tapering thighs , mmmmmmmm yep you get the picture.......Really. There was never a chance that I would give that all up! :pHugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
HiYes you have asked a question that we have been asked before. There is nothing worse than Bi guys playing straight and this is a view of many. Most of the rejection of bi guys comes from the female as it is in this case. If you want to play bi to hubby here then you will get exactly wot you deserve.lol. However many girls will not touch a bi guy or a guy they suspect as bi who is playing straight.To many girls it is a mental block with bi guys as why would we want to touch suck or play with a cock that goes up mens sewers ( anal sex)?. We dont do anal, we dont play with people who do anal in group situations. We prefer couples who dont do anal.There is also the safety issue as we are a married couple with young children. We really appreciate those guys who list themselves as bi cos it at leasts give cpls the option, as there are plenty of cpls out there whose male is bi'. There are plenty of oppertunities for bi guys out there, We actually check on cpls friend list to see if they have any Bi friends. We also never play with couples who have a interest in TV or TS.We really enjoying playing and recreational sex, and we only play with cpls and ppl we know well or whom are recommended. I am almost 100% sure that I have never played with a bi guy. We have a party tomorrow night and I know many of the girls that are going and whom play all night there, would be very sickened to find out later that a bi guy had slipped in and they had played with. We trust the men and husbands to provide a safe sensual environment for us girlsGood Luck________
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RHP User
15 years ago
'There is also the safety issue as we are a married couple with young children.'
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15 years ago
beautifully ignorant mindset there ANAL so it makes you a child molester too if you like to suck a cock occasionally? what a stupid and insulting fkn thing for them to say
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15 years ago
they noticed my name is ANAL???? lol
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15 years ago
sorry some of you probably cant laugh at this level of stuff coz you maybe experiencing this discrimination close up , I feel for you guys , so please excuse me for that.
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15 years ago
yep DGT apparently ALL bi guys have anal ALL the time , in their dirty asses lol and of course lets not forget that its perfectly logical that if you like full grown men you must also like little kiddies , I mean the facts are the facts DGT , will you wake up and see just how disgusting homos are???? what are you thinking???? lol priceless
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hi , just wondering , and I'm not hitting on you or anything , but why don't you like to play with bi guys???? If you don't have time to answer then that's fine , but I am curious to know coz I see it on so many profiles and 9 times out of 10 it turns out that it's just that it's just a misunderstanding of the way bi guys might act. Most Bi guys can act like straight guys without even blinking an eye , they love sex with women and are often really great at it. I think maybe you're wasting some great opportunities with some hot guys , ----you won't even be able to tell the difference!!!! And at least they're being honest , how many of the so-called straight guys that you play with are actually straight???? How do you know they're ALL straight???? Some people are also afraid of becoming gay , fuck who cares , just be yourself. Anyway I'm not having a go at you or anything , just curious that's all , and hoping it might be useful thought for you for your pleasure. Cheers , Loz
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RHP User
15 years ago
Two male friends discussing a wife swapping scenario decide to go away for the weekend with their wives.They check into a log cabin and after a nice meal the 2 couples pair off and head to the brdrooms.After an intense night of wild sex the two friends meet in the kitchen the next morning."that was awesome" says the first guy "we must do that again"."yeah" says the second..."I wonder how the girls got on!"
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'D_G_T' beautifully ignorant mindset there ANAL so it makes you a child molester too if you like to suck a cock occasionally? what a stupid and insulting fkn thing for them to say I thought the email was ridiculously ignorant. And awfully naive. . However, one point. I may have read it all wrong, but I took the "There is also the safety issue as we are a married couple with young children." to be a reference to the safe sex issues many believe surround anal sex - yes Romancefor4, I know, I know, cancer, HIV, etc *eyeroll* - and that they deemed playing with people who engage in anal sex to be a high sexual risk activity. . I smirked at the " I am almost 100% sure that I have never played with a bi guy" bit too. I would use the word sure very very loosely if I were the author of this email. . Alas, ignorance for some, is a contented kinda bliss and people only know what they know ... . Flirty x . PS. ANAL, I have NOT been able to get the zipper account out of my head since reading it this morning. Ouch.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yeah I thought I'd just put the feelers out at first Krissy so I'd see where they were at , instead of preaching to them too much too heavily
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15 years ago
Yeah that was some painful shit Flirty , -my dick vs zipper debacle that is. Hope people got a laugh out of it , I did in remembering it , but then that's what I mean ; why not laugh at the most painful shit???? Nothing has any power over me , nothing at all. It's all temporary crap. --------yeah I considered that she might have meant something else when she talked about safety around her kids , so I've sent another email asking about that and other things. However we know that it is still a perception out there amongst some that gay equals kiddy fiddler so I'm guessing that's probably what she meant.
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RHP User
15 years ago
The amount of times we get refused by couples because we are not bi is incredible. And would have thought our debate would be stronger after all Bi means I like / enjoy both sexes? A lot of that guys criteria we use as well, we also accept different sexualities than ourselves. What we have heard from other couples is the wives having a conversation along the lines" Dont you feel intimadated with a bisexual lady in bed with you and your partner". Or one of the husbands will say "Nope that bi guy will be looking at me wanting to suck my cock" makes me uncomfortable......sure it might be imaginary in his head! The mindset of some we know is, We wont accept bi one day straight the next. A straight guy will look at anothers cock and think, thats what my wife is getting a little bigger / smaller than mine! Then there is the super straight that will keep it covered so another guy cant see...lol! Surely there is enough people on RHP to find what you are looking for instead of trying to convert? Oh Flirty, We dont really care what others get up to, we are not losing any sleep over others that love anal sex. But be warned it causes stattering followed by blindness, but also believe Viagra can also fix those issues!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I don't have any issue with people choosing not to have sex with people who choose to have anal sex occasionally. That's a perception choice for them and it's fair enough. I might scoff a bit at the perception that straight people don't have anal sex... but everyone knows that it comes down to farting. Men fart. Its simple you see. Heterosexual women don't fart.. whereas gay women fart like there's no tomorrow. So obviously heterosexual women's bumholes are much cleaner... so it's ok for guys to fuck them... but not other guys bums... not with hair on them. yuck.... all starfish shaped. ewwweee. I mean dicks are dirty at the best of times.... it's all a straight gal can do to look at one but its better to have the lights off.... and a box of kleenex nearby... and groups of them? Everyone knows all bi men have anal sex in large groups without condoms.HugsStalky Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' ............ quoting someone else....To many girls it is a mental block with bi guys as why would we want to touch suck or play with a cock that goes up mens sewers ( anal sex)?. We dont do anal, we dont play with people who do anal in group situations. We prefer couples who dont do anal..... etc
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15 years ago
Hi ________ , Thanks (I think) for your rather candid reply , I find overwhelmingly that the 'rejection' of bi guys comes from the guy in a couple actually ,for various reasons including fear that he might "turn gay" lol -after all Shona you like a cock in your mouth dont ya???? shit imagine if he did too -the freakshow lol you might have to kick his ass to the street , or how about that the bi guy might be a fantastic out there root for his wife/gf , scary shit ,these bi guys are cumming from left field are'nt they???? She might cum like a mothafucken freight train woohoo!!!!!!!! lol You say you girls have got a "mental block" when you think about bi guys and ANAL SEX , -yeah I'd agree with that. My biggest question here is ; what do you mean by this statement? ; 'There is also the safety issue as we are a married couple with young children.' and do you have any evidence to support what you may be saying or is it just blah blah blah???? I find this statement '(the girls)would be very sickened to find out later that a bi guy had slipped in and they had played with (them)' to be very interesting indeed , would they actually throw up???? ok you dont like ANAL thats fine , but if you found out that one of your 'straight' play buddy COUPLES had one time had the dreaded anal sex would you then be sickened to the same degree also???? I mean I'm just wondering here , I would genuinely appreciate your ansewer , LOZ
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RHP User
15 years ago
You know what the fantastic thing about RHP is, the many and varied interests of everyone on here,,,,everybody is looking for and interested in different things. We find plenty of people who share the same interests as us, why would we need to meet with guys who dont fit our criteria?? Yes safety is very important to us, sexually and physically. If we got in to a play situation where the guy forced anal on to me (i am only small and could be overpowered easily) i have no doubt i would be physically injured and thus hampered in my ability to care for my children for a bit of time. We do not meet with anybody who openly states they enjoy anal and engage in it. There are plenty of couples on here with the same views as us, so i fail to understand why you have selected us to preach to. Nothing you can say will change our views.________
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15 years ago
pleased to see you have had the decency to keep our private emails anonymous on your forum postings, however i hope you also post my latest reply to clear up the matter of what we intended of how anal can affect our family. You presumed things because you think you know exactly what we are thinking and it is clear you do not. In no way have we ever stated that we believe bi men also prey on children. You live your life how you wish and we will do the same.
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15 years ago
Hi ________ , yes I will post your reply too , if you carefully read what I have said on the thread you'll see that I had previously stated that I wasn't sure what you meant by safety issues but that it is often the case that such views are held so I would not have been surprised. I haven't made any assumptions whatsover. I would also like to say to you that I think your fear of being anally raped by a bi man even while in the presence of your partner is an unusual and unjustified fear. Why be so fearful of something that is so extremely unlikely???? Do you really think that there are lots of bi men that would rape you???? -and what's more even while in the presence of your partner???? I think there are a thousand and one far more likely possible events that you should be fearful of instead. I think your fear is not based on an accurate view of reality. Loz
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15 years ago
lmfao!!!Stalky Quoting 'JustEnough' Two male friends discussing a wife swapping scenario decide to go away for the weekend with their wives.They check into a log cabin and after a nice meal the 2 couples pair off and head to the brdrooms.After an intense night of wild sex the two friends meet in the kitchen the next morning."that was awesome" says the first guy "we must do that again"."yeah" says the second..."I wonder how the girls got on!"
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15 years ago
Hi Justenough , I'm not trying to convert here , I'm trying to curb some of the anger wrongly directed at people who like same sex. Also I'm saying let's not be too affected by it.
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15 years ago
We'd never call gay men paedophiles, how dare you suggest it?! They're all ANAL RAPISTS tho.What the MOTHER FUCKING HELL, people? You sadden and disgust me.
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15 years ago
Well CNG Sarah , you see they've heard that has happened before , I think from one of their friends , that a bi guy did try to have anal sex with one of the wives/gfs without permission. So well at least that's some kinda defense of their view. Altho I've gotta say if we just took the odd personal account as the only guide then i've gotta say that I've heard of quite a few straight guys that have attempted vaginal sex without permission , but I'm not going to assume that it's something that a woman should be mega fearful of , people should just spend a little time vetting who they meet , simple. ________But in their latest email the husband has said that he thinks it's appropriate that if a bi guy is caught playing straight then he should be strangled unconscious with a power cable (and more) what do you think of that?
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15 years ago
Was reading through forums and seen this post. Have found a poem on the net that i think homophobes should read and take note of.. poem about homophobia.? He holds her closeAnd he strokes her cheekHe feels her heartbeatIt makes him weakHe holds him closeAnd he strokes his cheekHe feels his heartbeatIt makes him weakHe whispers her nameA loving motionHe squeezes her handWith tender devotionHe whispers his nameA loving motionHe squeezes his handWith tender devotionHis voice is shakingAs he tells her that lineHe utters "I love you"For the very first timeHis voice is shakingAs he tells him that lineHe utters "I love you"For the very first timeThe relationship enviedBy friends and peersNeither has to worryAbout mocking and fearsThe relationship disgracedBy enemies and othersHate to be afraidTo love one anotherBoth couples are lovingBoth are the sameIn yet one has to sufferWhile one feels no pain
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15 years ago
Quoting 'curiousnewgirl78'We'd never call gay men paedophiles, how dare you suggest it?! They're all ANAL RAPISTS tho. What the MOTHER FUCKING HELL, people? You sadden and disgust me. Hate to say this CNG but that is what the following post can be seen to imply: Quoting 'D_G_T' beautifully ignorant mindset there ANAL so it makes you a child molester too if you like to suck a cock occasionally? what a stupid and insulting fkn thing for them to say So I can see where the author of the messages felt a little miffed by it all....their choice not to play with Bi guys is exactly that - their choice - sure they may be missing out some fabulous experiences as I might be not being willing to play with parents, as are others who only play with guys / girls younger, within a certain height range, size queens, only married / committed couples etc....a negative experienced by ourselves or someone we trust does impact upon future decisions whether we are conscious of it or not....at least this couple is open about their desire to not play with Bi guys whereas others arent so honest. . Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
If their safety issue was from having sex with someone who has had anal sex, why aren't they using condoms for the protection of their family? It's obvious from their next message that they do actually conside bi guys to have little or no morals, to think that they would rape her anally because she is of small stature for heavens sake...really?
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RHP User
15 years ago
People are afraid of what they do not understand. It is beyond many straight people to comprehend why someone would be bi-sexual and what they get out of it. They tend to think that just because a man is gay, then he is going to be attracted to EVERY man he comes into contact with an just will not be able to help himself. I am straight. I have never even been tempted to kiss another woman in my life and I cannot ever see it hapening. That does not mean that I would condemn others for thier preferences. Many get a mental block and what they perceive to be the truth is all there is. These are the same people that when thier child comes out of the closet, they kick them out of the house and spend thier time lamenting about what "they" did wong as a parent instead of realising that the young adult is the same baby you held in your arms many years ago. Unfortunately there is no answer for this type of behaviour and way of thinking. It is a sad reality. All we can do is feel very very sorry for the sad and narrow outlook that these homophobes have. Their loss!
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15 years ago
If a bi guy is caught playing straight he gets strangled unconcious with a power cable wtf?
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15 years ago
They've said alot worse than that DGT , I'm just waiting for their email to confirm if that's what they actually mean or if somehow or other I have misinterpreted what they've said.
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15 years ago
As a bi guy, I am primarily heterosexual, I prefer women to menhowever, I can appreciate both sexes and I have found many straight guysare homophobic.I do ask sometimes are these straight males so insecure in their masculinity that they feel some threat from bisexual males.I do not need to be bisexual in a play situation, but when doing threesomesits a hell of a lot easier if the other guy doesn't freak at accidental touch.I can say that making the jump to bisexuality was scary and it wasn't easybut its been a great experience, now I can appreciate what a lady has to do during a HJ, just like a lady who is bi finds out that licking takes more effort thanshe thought...Cheers :-)
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15 years ago
well this is very interesting.... Seem that we all should be very cautious when dealling with " Allnightalllucid" because if he send you a message and does not like what he reads in reply, will post portions of it on a forum in here. What is his problem? especially only posting half of a conversation. A point we should all take note of. especially when he makes a mockery of genuine ppl. He messaged us to ask us why we dont play with bi guys, He obviously did not like the answer. Our profile also states we dont play with drunks or druggies. Why not ask that question?, Seems to me he does not like rejection.Firstly, I believe to have another mans wife is a priveledge, NOT a right. And should be treated as a privileged. Allnightalllucid , seems to think he has the right to play with ppl who dont really want him otherwise he would not be doing this posting our rejection of him on this forum and only part bits of our messages. I was always on the understanding that sites like this provided choice, and ppl had the right to exercise that in a free way. I personally know of several instances where woman have been violated in a play sessons and been left very upset in a night that was suppose to be fun. I know of one husband who defended his wife and stranglled the guy out. ANY decent husband would protect his wife. My wife is the mother of my children, soul mate and love of my life and she will get wot she wants. And yes if someone was upsetting her, and crossing the line, I WILL protect her, Why would "allnightalllucid" make a mockery of that?. This is something allnightalllucid cannot understand, obviously he is not in, or worthy of such a relationship and with his past form on here, we all can see why. Why would he make a mockery of a man who looks out for his wifes interests?. Our profile say many thing, eg, wife doesnt like overweight guys, shaven heads, facial hair, drunk guys, or anyone who does drugs. Is that wrong?? i should think not... it is our choice as to whom we play with and we dont need a mockery to be made of it. There has to be chemistry to play... IS that wrong? Who plays with anyone just for the sake of playing?.. Think twice I say.... about Allnightallucid.We are into the gentle sensual side of swinging , no pain or filth , only pleasure and we have our preferences, Like it or lump it. Woman need to feel safe and comfortable and most of all turned on.. Is that a bad thing??? NOT in our books, it is wot we go for strive to achieve. There are many profiles on here that state they are not interested in bi men, that is their choices and need to be respected, I personally think "allnightallucid" is violating our right to freedom of choice that this site offers.We dont have to play with ppl we dont want to.. why should he make a mockery of this?. Is that the right thing to do?. We really appreciatte the honesty of ppl on here who put down their preferrances and it enables those who are looking to exercise their freedom of choice. Something Allnightallucid does not understand. Who wants to play with a liar, fraud.Yes couples and single on here do look for bi guys, good on you and the best of luck.. BUT that is not what we are looking for, again the freedom of choice. We are a couple exercising our freedom of choice on here like the rest of you all. we dont need to be forced into anything we dont want. If Allnightalllucid cannot handle rejection, he should get professional help.We are a genuine couple who really enjoy playing in a safe sensual enviroment. Read our profile, if you like what you read and think you may fit in and vice versa.... Then lets get naked
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15 years ago
... they do have a right to define who they want to meet, as do we all. Sure, their reasoning is laughable, and smacks of thinly veiled prejudice, but none the less they still have that right.Personally, I'd rather people state their position as clearly as this, because it allows even those of us who aren't bi to get a clearer picture of who they are and go "hmmm, probably not my kind of people. Next!"
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15 years ago
Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' They've said alot worse than that DGT , I'm just waiting for their email to confirm if that's what they actually mean or if somehow or other I have misinterpreted what they've said. I'm uncomfortable with the fact that someone's private emails are been waited on so they can be ridiculed. No matter what their opinions are, they're entitled to common decency.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'D_G_T' It's obvious from their next message that they do actually consider bi guys to have little or no morals, to think that they would rape her anally ...I seem to recall people who actually and actively identify as bisexual are least represented in statistics about sex offenders, but it was some time ago and the study may well be out-dated by now...The discrimination gay people show toward bisexuals is possibly worse. Straight people have no need to question their sexuality, they "know" it's "normal", so to speak. As a group, gays have experienced presumably much worse, which to me makes it less forgivable for them to go dealing it back out.. Still, i guess a very human reaction, nonetheless...Personally, i wouldn't wish being queer on anyone, has me stumped why anyone would think it's a choice we make....cheers,R..
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15 years ago
Snowshoe --------Yeah ordinarily I would agree to a slight extent regarding that they didn't know about it. But after only I think I'd posted two emails of theirs (which meant it was hardly a massive invasion) , they mailed me back saying that it was a great topic and a great debate , also they've said early on that they wanted more of their emails posted , so I hope you understand. I never intended to post more than a couple of their emails , but with their consent I have. Loz
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15 years ago
I wanted clarification of what he meant by the following statement ; ________________________________"I do know of a situation where a bi guy was choked unconscious with a power cable which he deserved for attempting to play straight in a group situation. Injected with something and thrown down stairs. I totally agree with this being done as our wives are our lives , and they get what they want." ________________He's since told me that he meant that the guy had ALSO VIOLATED HER ANALLY , ok well that's a little different at least. But you can see how the statement seems to be saying something else , therefore I asked what he meant. I've since asked what he would do to a bi guy who was caught acting straight BUT NOT VIOLATING HER???????? He's said he's not going to reply till later.
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15 years ago
The reason I've only been posting parts of the emails they've sent tonight is because I can't cut n paste using my iPhone when trying to cut from emails on this site. But I'm happy to post them tommorrow if people want to read them for clarity , altho there's quite a few so I dunno ; up to you guys???? Let me know.
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15 years ago
Also now they've jumped on here and revealed who they are , I told them I was quite happy to put all the emails on here anonymously , but they have decided to play it differently.
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15 years ago
That's a great poem Gargoyles , thanks for that
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15 years ago
Why thanx lucid xxx
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15 years ago
Interesting topic ANAL and you and I have had a chat in a previous topic re the bi vs straight guy thing as far as my choices were concerned. I originally stated no bi guys but upon discussion in the forum have decided not to let bi be an issue in my choices. To be honest I don't know why I made it an issue this time as the following will demonstrate.I recently rejoined rhp after having been on here a few years ago and I would like to let nznaturally know that there is EVERY chance they have played with someone (male or female) who likes anal sex and probably a guy or two who is bi as well. When I was last on here I met up with a lovely guy who became a good friend. We played on several occasions and it was not until we had known each other for some months that he told me he was bi. To be honest it never worried me. One of my closest friends is also quite happily bi. His preference if for males but he responds to ads for parties and to ads from women and he plays the 'straight' card when in that situation. The women, or men for that matter, at parties he attends never have any idea that he is anything other than 'straight'. One night he may be dressed in a suit attending a couples or swingers party with one of his many female friends and the next night he might be at an all male event dressed in leather from head to toe! And yes, he loves anal sex. Giving and receiving! Whether what he is doing is wrong or not I will leave up to him!The homophobia issue is an interesting one. There was a study reported on in the 'Journal of Abnormal Psychology' in 1996 that I have always found statistically significant to any discussion pertaining to homophobia. 64 men with a mean age of 20.3 years were divided into two groups based on their answers to some questions. The groups were homophobic and non-homophobic. They had their penis's wired with a contraption that would measure their level of arousal. They then watched some videos. These consisted of straight, lesbian and gay porn. All men were then questioned about how aroused they felt by each type of porn and this was measured against the actual arousal level measured by the device on their penis. All the men were equally aroused by the straight and lesbian porn but there were significant differences in the levels of arousal registered by the two groups to the gay porn. The non homophobic men registered low arousal rates with 10% having a moderate tumescence rate and 24% having a definite tumescence rate. The homophobic males were quite different however with moderate tumescence rates of 26% and a definite tumescence rate of 54%. The homophobic participants also greatly underestimated their degree of sexual arousal to the gay porn. I have a full on, in your face, screaming homophobic relative. I have always wondered about his sexuality. A case maybe of 'he doth protest too much?" Most of my friends are gay males and I have witnessed first hand on many occasions the dramas they face because of their sexuality. It always makes me wonder about people who maintain it is their 'choice'. Who would choose to be part of a lifestyle and community that is generally frowned upon, do not get the same rights as those who are 'straight' and have a suicide rate that is off the charts. Not to mention often being ostracized by friends, family, work colleagues, church and god knows who else when they 'come out'! Had to throw in my two cents worth. Hey, do you think the fact that my being a straight female and most of my friends being gay males may have something to do with the reason why I am here? Hell yes! ROFLKisses allL
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15 years ago
I'm simply asking questions here to better illuminate the subject so we can remove some ignorance. If anyone reads all my posts carefully without skimming over them they'll see that at no time have I jumped to conclusions about what this couple have said , it's rather that they haven't answered clearly , and still don't.
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15 years ago
So shall I post all the remaining emails or is that going to be overkill????
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15 years ago
Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' I'm simply asking questions here to better illuminate the subject so we can remove some ignorance.Rubbish. Go back and read the OP - you started this thread to humiliate someone whose views differed from your own, and did so by disclosing things that they had written to you privately. Feigning a noble cause now is laughable.
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15 years ago
No Snowshoe you're completely wrong , you go back and read the OP and my comments throughout and you'll see I'm calling for people that ARE being discriminated against to laugh at the ignorance many people DO possess , and NOT at the people themselves. Go back and have a read. And if we're seeing ignorance and laughing at it , then isn't that exactly the same as 'illuminating the subject so we can remove some ignorance"???? I know exactly what my intentions were in starting this thread , I know my heart and you don't. I bear absolutely no malice to this couple or anyone else on this planet for that matter. I've always tried to shine the light on darkness and I'll never give up on that. With respect , Loz
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15 years ago
I'm going to have a sleep now after night shift but I'll answer any questions or challenges later in the day
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15 years ago
On my very first post on this thread I said that "it's not a laugh at those people themselves but at their DEEP ignorance"
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15 years ago
Well this thread is working out really good for us. Had several messages from really classy couples whom agree that a woman choices and preferances need to be respected. And as I said, my wife is my life, soul mate, mother of my children and love of my life. Allnightlucid seems to think it is alright to question a womans preferences and choices. I wonder why he is single?.I did get a message from a guy who could not understand why she did not think shaven heads were sexy?. again personal choice however was a bit concerned that my response would be placed on a forum however how many guys out there could there be who dont handle rejection well?. It is my view that guys whom dont respect a womans choices DONT deserve to play with woman. It is my view that any man who allows his wife to play with such a disrespectfull guy, could be making a huge mistake. Profiles clearly state what a couple or single is looking for, that needs to be respected, not our reasons put into a forum and described as hilarious.Also Allnightlucid made the suggestion that we think bi men are kidding fiddlers, That is totally untrue and I cannot understand the reasoning as to why he would do that or his agenda in suggesting we thought like that. Maybe he could explain his agenda in that and also as to why he put our messages up on a forum under a topic name, when we are mearly expressing our freedom of choice. I look forward to his reply.I also made a comment that there is nothing worse than a bi guy playing straight... well that is true as our profile states that we have no interest in that. what sort of scum does not respect other ppls wishes?. Why would a guy do that to anyone?. Would Allnightlucid do that to another person?. Why has he come out so much on a forum and can you really trust a person like this?. anything that upsets my wife, upsets our family, yes we have young children and children are a barometer of a happiness in a home, Why would Allnightlucid not respect our wishes. He also mentioned that he has plenty of couples and fems to play with, then why make a deal out of rejection in a forum with us?. Personally I think he is struggling for sexual fun and his actions are speaking louder than his words there ( again only my opinion ).Allnightlucid also stated that he has been in a situation with a wife and children, where are they now?. did his attitude toward personal choices and woman contribute to this ?.I like to know I can trust others with my wife and other men trust me with theirs that I will treat them with the respect and preciousness they deserve. That attitude has worked very well for us so far and will continue in the future. Most of all that the woman feel safe and comfortable...My suggestion is .. be cautious with him. I have no need to post his messages on the board here. I have a saying that the first rule of holes, If you find yourself in one, STOP digging. Allnightlucid is in a hole I believe, he should give up after answering the above questions
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15 years ago
Its much easier to be Bi and open about it in the city we think. Imagine in a country town, everyone knows everyone and people just love to gossip because theres nothing else to do in a country town... In the city, who cares! Very few of our friends know anything about our bedroom lifestyle. Im positive that if it became public knowledge we would experience all kinds of discrimination such as fewer job opportunities to exclusion. Sounds intense but Im sure anyone living in a country town could confirm. I do think from Gen Y down there is a massive swing towards acceptance. Hopefully that will flow down to their children and so on.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' If anyone reads all my posts carefully without skimming over them they'll see that at no time have I jumped to conclusions about what this couple have said , it's rather that they haven't answered clearly , and still don't. Really? What about when you said "however we know that it is still a perception out there amongst some that gay equals kiddy fiddler so I'm guessing that's probably what she meant". Just so I don't jump to any conclusions myself, were you suggesting that because a couple doesn't want to have sex with a bisexual man, it's because they believe you're a paedophile?
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15 years ago
Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' No Snowshoe you're completely wrong , you go back and read the OP and my comments throughout and you'll see I'm calling for people that ARE being discriminated against to laugh at the ignorance many people DO possess , and NOT at the people themselves.By that criteria, I suppose I could laugh at the fat belly that my neighbour posses, or the funny wheelchair that my friend possess. After all, I'm not laughing at them, right? Just a characteristic of them. Those aren't the morals I'll be handing on to my daughter.I suppose not wanting to have sex with someone because they're part of a group rather than judging them on their merits is discrimination. As one who has been steadfastly discriminated against by every 18-30 year old woman on this site though, I'm not feeling all that sorry for you.Also, ignorance is subjective. To you, bisexuality is no big deal, but to others, it seems to be. Get over it. They're entitled to their opinions, just as you're entitled to believe that there's scientific proof for reincarnation. See? I did go back and read all of your postings.
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15 years ago
The strangling part... maybe it's all just a big misunderstanding and they're into breathe play??Anyway... these dudes seem to know that it's all about good lurvin'... and whilever there are other people around with logical, moderated opinions like these, I'm pretty confident that things will be awwright and we don't have to go storming the walls of Parliament house just yet. Hugs Stalky Quoting 'ravenesk' Quoting 'D_G_T' It's obvious from their next message that they do actually consider bi guys to have little or no morals, to think that they would rape her anally ...I seem to recall people who actually and actively identify as bisexual are least represented in statistics about sex offenders, but it was some time ago and the study may well be out-dated by now...The discrimination gay people show toward bisexuals is possibly worse. Straight people have no need to question their sexuality, they "know" it's "normal", so to speak. As a group, gays have experienced presumably much worse, which to me makes it less forgivable for them to go dealing it back out.. Still, i guess a very human reaction, nonetheless...Personally, i wouldn't wish being queer on anyone, has me stumped why anyone would think it's a choice we make....cheers,R.. Quoting '0_DarkHorse_0' ... they do have a right to define who they want to meet, as do we all. Sure, their reasoning is laughable, and smacks of thinly veiled prejudice, but none the less they still have that right.Personally, I'd rather people state their position as clearly as this, because it allows even those of us who aren't bi to get a clearer picture of who they are and go "hmmm, probably not my kind of people. Next!"
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15 years ago
A straight couple on RHP approaches a couple where both are bisexual. 99.9999999% the answer from the Bi couple will be No! Allnight is that discriminationl? awwww its not fair we cant play with bi couples (we are losing sleep) they think sex with the opposite sex is boring and invisible walls need to built in the bedroom, because straight couples jump 10 foot high if the same sex touches each other while playing with the opposite sex! Where do they get these ideas from? From straight swingers, dont think so! How do we overcome their ignorance? Or should we all accept the choices of others?
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15 years ago
For reference the following is the OP: . In my book there's nothing like a good dose of old fashioned ignorance to warm the heart with a good chuckle :-) Why be offended when it is often sheer comic genius???? The fact that it's not meant to be funny just makes it that much funnier of course. Just momentarily cringe when you hear something outrageous , then have a good guffaw haw hawhawdy haw haw ho. So what precious little gems have you heard from the land of fear n dread???? Spill please , and no doubt we'll get a few 'live' scared peeps chiming in to add to our cry fest of bliss. . Most of us took this to be generic...a question asked about things we have heard...excuses etc - you went and took it personally...included personal emails instead of leaving it general...you went and started attacking a persons right to choose who they play with...in no way do I feel that your copying of emails and dissecting them is what was intended by your OP...now I know you are the author of it but again I stress that the written word can and often is misinterpretted...everyone is entitled to play with who ever they choose - if they offend you so much STOP RESPONDING TO THEM!!! . Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
I did stress that it is interpretation of the written word (by my post title) and that your statement may be seen to imply....we are only getting the messages second hand and through someone elses interpretation....as we see quite regualrly in the forums and elsewhere the written word is open to interpretation....your previous dealings with someone...their ommition of certain information all detremine how something is read...vocal inflection is not apparent in the written word neither is facial expression....we staunchly defend a persons right to be gay, bi, big, smal, smmoker, non,l what ever yet get upset and offended if someone chooses not to play with us based on these same qualities...we all choose who we play with..we can say no to people based on any number of reasons...regardless of why they say no to bi guys it is their choice....as it is yours and my choice not to be taking new applicants right now. . Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
pleased to see you have had the decency to keep our private emails anonymous on your forum postings, however i hope you also post my latest reply to clear up the matter of what we intended of how anal can affect our family. You presumed things because you think you know exactly what we are thinking and it is clear you do not. In no way have we ever stated that we believe bi men also prey on children. You live your life how you wish and we will do the same.
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15 years ago
Hi ________ , I repeat that I have said on that thread that I didn't know what you meant by safety issues , go back and check it if you like. And ________ has clearly stated that she is afraid bi-guys will overpower her even in your presence , I think that's an unfounded fear but one that she's welcome to if she wants to think that way. I said from the start that you don't have to answer my questions , but that I was curious as to your reasons , simple as that. I think it's a great topic for discussion in general because ignorance or fear of sometimes silly things. If you are very afriad of getting sick after sexual contact with someone who has anal then thats fair enough , but I think its a VERY exaggerated fear. Many bi guys very rarely or even never have anal sex. If you're using condoms then I think the chances of catching anything are very small , at least in comparison to your current playmates I cant really see any big difference in sexual health danger , I'm a nurse and do know something about this. I'm not saying that you ARE gay , no way , I'm saying that alot of straight guys are afraid that they might turn gay , actually its ok in a way tho if they are scared. Yes I do get lots of great play time with couples and singles , thanks.Your personal attitude is not up for debate if you choose not to , but the general attitude among some that Bi guys are dirty or diseased or may rape your wife IS up for debate and hopefully we'll seea positive outcome there in terms of revelation of the truth. I wish you safety and good health in your endeavors in ____ , I have great respect for those in ________ , my family is full of them , I have close buddies that _______ too , and Ive had a taste of it myself. Cheers Loz
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15 years ago
great topicYes we have many couiple friends whom we would not play with if I were gay. We would not play with them if _______ and I had unprotected sex in the previous 3 days to playing as well.. No guy I know wants to go down on a woman who still has another mans come in her. Thats is the group we play.. clean respectfull ppl. I have read a lot of forums about cream pie etc.... Both ________ and I say YUK to that as do teh couples and singles we play with.We have heard stories about girls sucking cocks after being up arses... NOT our thing sorry. Seems a great way to get a dose of worms.NOBODY will over power _________... that will never happen as long as I am there. Yes we have heard stories about guys forceing anal sex on girls in a couple situation. We have since played with these couples and have told us the stories, turns out several of these situations the guys were bi, well obviously if they were into anal they were that way inclined. Nobody wants a night where I have to deal to a guy who does not respect my wife, to render some one unconcious if not something I like doing. I do know of a situation where a bi guy was choked unconcious with a power cable which he deserved for attempting to play straight in a group situation. Injected with something and thrown down stairs. I totally agree with this being done as our wifes are our lives, and they get what they want. She is more discussed by bi men as too her friends as there is no way they would play with me if I were bi. Yes we may be called homo phobes We normally play With younger family orientated type couples, probably a complete different group to others of whom you mix with., One other thing we find annoying and were about to start a forum about is the fact that so many parties, PPL dont start playing till around midnight..Our play nights and we only have about _ a month normally start playing around _ so as well can be home at ________ as we have young family at home. Interesting Debate________So you been to ____?.. Seen tribal killings over anal sex. Sorcery ETC. Not pretty
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15 years ago
Can I just ask a question as to why you are posting our messages on a forum in RHP?. Seems to me you a beating some sort of drum here and taking things out of context.To have another mans wife is not a right, it is a priveledge and should be treated as such as my wife is the love of my life, the mother of my children and my soul mate. Yes if she is treatened or forsed upon in a way she doesnt like... yes I will defend in a manner I know and see fit for the time. Is there something wrong in that????... I think not. as you would do the same. I personally dont think having read your responses that you are in or have been in a long term committed relationship therefor would not have a true understanding of this. Do you have a wife and kids and a family life???.The situation that happened where a guy was choked out... yes he overstepped the mark, and was playing straight when he wasnt.You seem to make a mockery of a guy who looks out for the best interest and safety of his wife.... WHYPost this on your forum,
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15 years ago
LOL I wasn't grumpy, just sayin. This like many other thread on rhp has proven that many things can and will be taken out of context, ha ha pretty much a "given" on here . My comments were aimed at the words used not the actual choice of the couple to play with bi or anything else for that matter, that's not my concern at all. And yes , words placed in contextual order do take on another meaning altogether
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15 years ago
Yes that is discrimination. I don't think anyone says discrimination is necessarily wrong... people ought to be able to entertain their sexual preferences. I think the bigoted comments we can all go without though... i.e. I don't like bi guys because they have anal sex ... he must have sex with men because his wife is crap in bed... etcHugsStalky Quoting 'JustEnough' A straight couple on RHP approaches a couple where both are bisexual. 99.9999999% the answer from the Bi couple will be No! Allnight is that discriminationl? awwww its not fair we cant play with bi couples (we are losing sleep) they think sex with the opposite sex is boring and invisible walls need to built in the bedroom, because straight couples jump 10 foot high if the same sex touches each other while playing with the opposite sex! Where do they get these ideas from? From straight swingers, dont think so! How do we overcome their ignorance? Or should we all accept the choices of others?
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15 years ago
You and I both know I have had my share of people calling me all sorts of nasty things because of my life choices....shal we pull up the couch for this one?? I dont drink Rum - so you may have to take over those duties but will willingly take up the chocolate eating duties... . Kisses Focus
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15 years ago
I might post it tommorrow , I'm on my iPhone at the moment so I can't cut n paste it. But you're saying that that's the right thing to do if you caught a bi guy acting straight right? That is choke him till unconscious etc? Loz Hi Anybody who violates my wife or another mans wife. forces something and or suggests something that is not asked for or agreed to deserves exactly what he gets. I know of three woman whom have been left in tears after a night that was suppose to be fun. Personally I would not tolerate that if done to my wife. You seem to make a mockery of that. My wife and the __ fems ( singles or part of couples )we play with on a semi regular basis, dont want to play with bi men. to them playing with bi men does not provide the spark they want.... that is personal choice, and needs to be respected. It is a personal choice, just like my wife does not like facial hair, shaven heads, heavy tattoos, beer bellys, beer breath, druggies, drunks. ETC. Is that wrong??? We just dont play with anyone for the sake of playing. I have personal choices when it come to playmates as well , I dont need to play with fems I dont want to. I have turn many fems down, as so my wife and her friends do not need to play with bi guys... Why do it if you dont want to???.. If their other personal activities do nothing for you, then why do it ?? Seems to me that just because you are bi you seem to think you have a right to play with anyone even if they dont want to, or if they found the truth out would never had played with you. I must admitt that at least those who honestly post their sexuallity on their profile, give all the oppertiunity to other to make their choices. IS that wrong?.. Who wants to play with a fraud?? a liar??. We have turned many couple down cos the mr here is not bi, That is great, because no body get let down or disappionted on the night. And for those that have to pay out $100 for a baby sitter and $200 for a appartment. Yes we like to get what we are looking for. ________
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15 years ago
No way ____ , I'm not saying any of that. I've got plenty on , I don't need to go convert everyone so I can get laid. Nor do I insist that people change if they choose to play straight only , so I hope that's all clear. I too have been in a situation with wife and kids before and I feel the same way as you do about protecting women and children. But are you really saying that you would do those things to someone just because you found out that a bi guy was acting straight???? Can you answer the question please???? If you don't want to then I can only assume that your previous statement stands , that you think that treatment is fair. LozI have posted back on to the forum... It seems you cannot respect freedom of choice or handle rejection.On day you may be worthy of a meaning full relationship with a woman whom you would protect just like that male did when his wife was being violated.... I know you dont think it is right to look after a woman and I have made that clear in my posting, wot is wrong with a man protecting his wife when her choices are being violated??One day you may understand this, If you cannot handle rejection, at least respect ppl freedom of choice and not make a mockery of it by posting part conversations on forums._____
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15 years ago
I'm not going to harass you but can you answer the question???? I want to give a truthful presentation of what's going on. I don't want to make any mistakes. If you really think those things should be done to a bi guy that is acting straight then I want to know. Or are you saying that those things should be done if he actually tries to anally rape her???? LozYes... the guy tried to violate her. A bi guy playing straight, why do you think it is wrong that the male protected his wife... You can answer that in the forum. Why put up replyed messages in a forum,, cant you handle rejection?why make a mockery of a cpl who have freedom of choice?
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15 years ago
Ok so what would you do if you caught a bi guy acting straight THAT HAD NOT VIOLATED HER ANNALLY????It is when he tried to forse it in which is wot happened.... Also her choices are no for no bi men were violated.... that to me is wrong.However you seem to aggree that a guy forseing it is right.... also that a woman may state in her profile for no bi men, I feel that her choices should be respected, why dont you??.Does a womans right to choose mean anything to you?? obviously not.As I have made it clkear about you in my posting
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15 years ago
No no no you've got me all wrong , I'm agreeing with you that a guy should be honest and peoples choices should be respected and all that. And actually I've made that bloody clear to you. But my question to you is ; if you find out that a bi guy has been acting straight but has not anally violated your wife then what would you do????I will wait till you have replyed to the post I have put on the forum befor I reply. I have made it perfectly clear you dont not respect freedom of choice and putting posting of our convo up on a forum proves that. also you dont handle rejection well.You also think it is wrong that a man should not protect his wife, I ask why you are single?You also do not respect freedom of choice WHY ?Answer it in the forumor feel free to call me in __________XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXYou will look a fool after it is posted
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15 years ago
________ I've got stacks of couples wanting to meet with me and it wouldn't matter if I said I was straight or bi I would still have stacks. I completely respect your freedom of choice , you're totally welcome to accept or reject anyone as your own personal tastes dictate , I could care less about that. I think a man should protect his wife and children , he should be prepared to go to Hell for them , nevermind risking his life. I haven't read your post yet as it may take a while to get on there. I handle rejection just fine , it's the story of my fucking life lol I've had time to get used to it. But why don't you answer my question???? If you had plenty of couples and fems to play with, why pick on us when there are plenty of couple profiles who dont want bi men??? If you cannot respect a womans choices, then you dont deserve to be with a woman. Why post parts of messages on a forum and stirr up shit that at the end of the day will make you look a fool? What sort of scum would play straight when he is really bi with a couple that specifically state no bi men?. Is that respectfull to woman??? are you that sort of person who feels he has the right to do wot he wants with a woman??. Are you the sort of person that thinks ppl have to play with you and if they reject you , you post there reply on a forum? Take a look at yourself, where is your wife and kids?. wot went wrong, The psychology you are showing here is that of a very poor EI and totally spoken in analogs. you should find my post very interesting
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15 years ago
sorry that might be really hard to follow but I'm already late for work and rushing , cheers Loz
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15 years ago
Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' No no no you've got me all wrong , I'm agreeing with you that a guy... Why are you posting this stuff? Someone said something earlier about the first thing you do when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging... dude, you've started the backhoe instead. You're taking this thing with the couple personally and airing yours and their dirty laundry. We get your point, but I for one don't care about your fight.
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15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' Yes that is discrimination. I don't think anyone says discrimination is necessarily wrong... people ought to be able to entertain their sexual preferences. I think the bigoted comments we can all go without though... i.e. I don't like bi guys because they have anal sex ... he must have sex with men because his wife is crap in bed... etc Quite true! Being called discriminating is often a compliment - it's often used to imply a high set of standards and a commitment to quality. A discriminating consumer may buy a Bang & Olufsen stereo, not because they have extensively compared features and costs of other systems, but because they know that the name is amongst the best.As for the distasteful comments, I completely agree, but they've become the hallmark of these forums lately. That's one of the reasons I rarely participate any more.
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15 years ago
Snowshoe , with respect , they chose to enter into the debate , they clearly state that , your assumption and theirs that I'm miffed is pure guess work. My motivation is solely to shed some light on homophobia so that everybody wins , them and us. I love these people , as 'gay' as that may sound lol
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RHP User
15 years ago
Snowshoe , with respect , they chose to enter into the debate , they clearly state that , your assumption and theirs that I'm miffed is pure guess work. My motivation is solely to shed some light on homophobia so that everybody wins , them and us. I love these people , as 'gay' as that may sound lol
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RHP User
15 years ago
Just get over it. I'm bi ure bi everyone is bi Have a nice day is all I have to say.
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RHP User
15 years ago
What your couple has said about being hurt is ringing true with one of our experiances. We hooked up with a bi couple years ago, met at their house nice people. That was the last time we did seperate rooms and will never have sex with others where we both cant see each other again, same room same bed allways. My wife had his cock forced down her throat, we both had fingers up our arse. Maybe its not being Bi that some of the problem is, Maybe its how far others push the extremes of playing, and after some are comfortable if their partners have sex with others, then its sex with the same sex, then its to where? B&D? At some stage a couple will say....stop there no further? "We want to play there not up a couple rungs on the ladder". The concerns of your couple maybe: "they should swing as couple they are a package and therefore protect each other" Like how does someone force anal on your wife if you are beside her, with that guys wife? Funny thing: The tried and true swing rules from decades ago appear to keep re appearing.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' Snowshoe , with respect , they chose to enter into the debate , they clearly state that , your assumption and theirs that I'm miffed is pure guess work. My motivation is solely to shed some light on homophobia so that everybody wins , them and us. I love these people , as 'gay' as that may sound lol Actually, I'm suggesting that I'm miffed at the... unconventional nature of this particular forum. Trying to bring two sides together is a noble goal - I suppose your title choice was just unfortunate...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thanks for saying Snowshoe that my goal is noble , yeah it truly is noble. I'm not perfect and I'm not sure whether I picked the best title or not , but I knew that there was a good chance it would get the ball rolling. I wanted some unconventional reaction to provoke some thought , so I chose an unconventional title and OP
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yeah Justenough you've gotta vett people a little carefully to see if they're 'on the same page' as you.
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RHP User
15 years ago
1. The women do not want to play with bi guys. 2. Nothing has been said about the men playing with bi guys at all. I guess it is implied that they dont want to. 3. IF a bi guy plays with the women, and the men find out then the guy is subject to beatings, chokings and other violent acts? 4. These "men" seem to think that it is okay to act so violently towards another because he "violated" the women by not respecting thier choices? l No where, no way, no how should violence be used unless in direct protection. I wonder what hapens if the man does not disclose that he is bi and the woman has a fantatic time...all go away happy? She does not feel so violated then hey! Ignorance may be bliss. lol. Do the guys mind playing with bi women? Or has it something to do with the anal sex thing? l GOD!!!!! Got a major headache trying to sift through all this shit. It is starting to sound like the moral codes of some weird religious sect. l Dont worry people it is not rocket science.......just dont tell the truth.... fits right on in with MOST of RHP profiles IMO.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Fiona they haven't yet given a final answer on what the husband should do if a bi guy is caught posing straight with them. They have only said they would act violently (in the ways mentioned earlier) if he actually attempted to anally rape her.
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RHP User
15 years ago
We have recieved many messages and they all seem to be in support us us and our attitude toward freedom of choice. Also the fact that Allnitealllucid is a single guy no longer living with his wife and children. With his attitude as displayed on here it is no wonder he is in that situation given his very poor attitude to woman.Making it perfectly clear, we never aggreed to our personal messages to allnitealllucid being place here on a forum, we got quite a shock when we found it out. So Everyone be very weiry of this man.Our profile states what we are looking for, WHat sort of scum would lie just to play to with us?. We read forums so as to get a gisst on ppl and attiutdes and choices and many do speck freely on forums so this can give an idea about who is worth persuing and who isnt. I can see that allniteallucid with be cancelling his profile and starting a new one now after this Honesty is something that is very foreign to allnitealllucid. Why didnt he ask us befor starting to put our messages up?PPL can message us with anything they want, We CAN be trusted not to place messages on a forum. Many of the messages we have have been in total disgust of allniteallucid attitude toward woman. If a woman has a choice, then DO NOT MAKE A MOCKERY OF IT. His attitude toward woman is nothing more than despictable. And as a couple message to us have said, You dont derserve to be with woman..This whole deal has given us some really great exposure... and messages from some really potentual good couples
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'AllNiteAllLucid' Thanks for saying Snowshoe that my goal is noble , yeah it truly is noble. You missed the sarcasm. I had to clarify in case anyone else did too.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Mate.. That kind of behaviour, as you intimate, is clearly not about being bi-sexual. That couple... obviously learnt their bad manners from each other. As for your same room rule.. I wouldn't have it any other way. Frankly I just don't understand men who will leave their lady friends alone with strangers... I mean.. fair enough if the swinging relationship is long standing.. but newbie partners? I don't even like letting other people's female lovers alone with people they do not know. In fact, I've hung around for the express purpose of making sure a woman was Ok while her bf took off for a room of his own with some other guys.... lolz. It's probably a hangup of mine... but none the less.... I don't enjoy thinking about people feeling vulnerable and unprotected not at least, where they may not be able to resume control at their whim.HugsStalky Quoting 'JustEnough' What your couple has said about being hurt is ringing true with one of our experiances. We hooked up with a bi couple years ago, met at their house nice people. That was the last time we did seperate rooms and will never have sex with others where we both cant see each other again, same room same bed allways. My wife had his cock forced down her throat, we both had fingers up our arse. Maybe its not being Bi that some of the problem is, Maybe its how far others push the extremes of playing, and after some are comfortable if their partners have sex with others, then its sex with the same sex, then its to where? B&D? At some stage a couple will say....stop there no further? "We want to play there not up a couple rungs on the ladder". The concerns of your couple maybe: "they should swing as couple they are a package and therefore protect each other" Like how does someone force anal on your wife if you are beside her, with that guys wife? Funny thing: The tried and true swing rules from decades ago appear to keep re appearing.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting ANAL: "There is also the safety issue as we are a married couple with young children." Are these people for real??? yeah...go f%$^ yourself...So people that are anally inclined are a threat to children? What a bunch of morons? Anyway...Each to their own, but make sure your brain is loaded before you go shooting your mouth off. I'm a scientist..I've always studied science and work in science and so to me everything comes down to evidence. Firstly, A.N.A.L. no, there is no-such thing as re-incarnation (but hey, knock yourself out)...but that would be a hijacking of this thread. Second, for those interested, there is a book by the name of "Sperm-Wars" by Robin Baker, and its a fascinating look at sexuality. Truly mind-blowing. And all research suggests that homosexuality and bi-sexuality is a ploy. About 1% of ALL people claiming to be gay (men and women) are EXCLUSIVELY gay. Essentially, it's about increasing sexual opportunities. Be it for lust or finding a partner worthy of your genetic code for kids later on down the track. And yes, it's a genetic make-up not a lifestyle choice.Personally, I can look at a man's body and say 'yep, that's a nice piece of hardware' but thats it. I dont have sexual desire for men, but I can certainly appreciate it. As for women, I can look at her and say 'HOLY HELL WHAT I WOULD DO TO YOU!!' I WOULD QUITE HAPPILY THROW YOU AROUND THE ROOM FOR 7 MINUTES! .
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RHP User
15 years ago
OK you're a scientist... .. but wait.... let's say I'm gay right... I mean.. I'm not but let's just say I'm gay because I accept that it increases my sexual opportunities.... Now.. being gay, I don't hit on women even when they're coming on to me. Exactly how, in scientific terms, does rejecting a potential sexual opportunity from all women, who love the way I dance and shop, (ok settle... that was a joke) increase my opportunities? And, since I recognise that scientists do not spout statistics lightly, tell me where is the research for the 1% of gay men are exclusively gay business? I mean to say.. that beggars belief. You're implying that 99% of gay men get around having it off with women... and I find that pretty difficult to accept just by way of life experiences.HugsStalky Quoting 'TigerTantra' Quoting ANAL: "There is also the safety issue as we are a married couple with young children." Are these people for real??? yeah...go f%$^ yourself...So people that are anally inclined are a threat to children? What a bunch of morons? Anyway...Each to their own, but make sure your brain is loaded before you go shooting your mouth off. I'm a scientist..I've always studied science and work in science and so to me everything comes down to evidence. Firstly, A.N.A.L. no, there is no-such thing as re-incarnation (but hey, knock yourself out)...but that would be a hijacking of this thread. Second, for those interested, there is a book by the name of "Sperm-Wars" by Robin Baker, and its a fascinating look at sexuality. Truly mind-blowing. And all research suggests that homosexuality and bi-sexuality is a ploy. About 1% of ALL people claiming to be gay (men and women) are EXCLUSIVELY gay. Essentially, it's about increasing sexual opportunities. Be it for lust or finding a partner worthy of your genetic code for kids later on down the track. And yes, it's a genetic make-up not a lifestyle choice.Personally, I can look at a man's body and say 'yep, that's a nice piece of hardware' but thats it. I dont have sexual desire for men, but I can certainly appreciate it. As for women, I can look at her and say 'HOLY HELL WHAT I WOULD DO TO YOU!!' I WOULD QUITE HAPPILY THROW YOU AROUND THE ROOM FOR 7 MINUTES! .
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' Mate.. That kind of behaviour, as you intimate, is clearly not about being bi-sexual. That couple... obviously learnt their bad manners from each other. As for your same room rule.. I wouldn't have it any other way. Frankly I just don't understand men who will leave their lady friends alone with strangers... I mean.. fair enough if the swinging relationship is long standing.. but newbie partners? I don't even like letting other people's female lovers alone with people they do not know. In fact, I've hung around for the express purpose of making sure a woman was Ok while her bf took off for a room of his own with some other guys.... lolz. It's probably a hangup of mine... but none the less.... I don't enjoy thinking about people feeling vulnerable and unprotected not at least, where they may not be able to resume control at their whim.HugsStalky Makes you wonder about those in open relationships and the safety of their wives, dont you think? Our example the rooms were next to each other and doors open. The post was really about the addictiveness of pushing boundries with sex? Like you do heaps with your partner only. Then you venture watching others in real life. Then sex with others opposite sex as a couple. Then where do you keep raising the bars? and go higher? Bi, S&M, b&d ....ANAL Or at some stage you say stop and you dont want to go higher and stay with people on the level that you want to play, Fiona, Those rules you list, we are very comfortable with we dont see anything strange about them. On the physical threats, we have met a couple that reckon he would hit a male if he pretended to be a couple and arrived at the apartment they had booked without his wife offering excuses. After all they have spent $200.00 on the apartment travelled 2 hours, the emotional commitment ........dangerous stuff we think guys telling lies or pushing things when it comes to sex with someone elses wife. A standard rule in swinging is "you treat someone elses wife the same as you want your wife treated" Sperm Wars: Excellent book , Thats the theory behind what makes it so hot having sex with your own partners after swinging. Good Stuff
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'stalky' OK you're a scientist... .. but wait.... let's say I'm gay right... I mean.. I'm not but let's just say I'm gay because I accept that it increases my sexual opportunities.... Now.. being gay, I don't hit on women even when they're coming on to me. Exactly how, in scientific terms, does rejecting a potential sexual opportunity from all women, who love the way I dance and shop, (ok settle... that was a joke) increase my opportunities? And, since I recognise that scientists do not spout statistics lightly, tell me where is the research for the 1% of gay men are exclusively gay business? I mean to say.. that beggars belief. You're implying that 99% of gay men get around having it off with women... and I find that pretty difficult to accept just by way of life experiences.HugsStalkyThe 1% comes from those that know they are gay and have never slept with the opposite sex. Studies come from interviews and surveys and they follow people over time. But yes, I am aware studies are flawed. People are very selfish and without getting too into the theory that's floating around, people do things that will serve them best. The body often wants 1 thing and the mind says something opposite. for e.g. ever hear someone say 'i've never done that before' 'I don't know what came over me?' It's kinda like that, I highly recommend the book, it explains everything in detail. Just off topic, but kinda related to the whole 'mind-body' battle Women have a higher chance of getting pregnant off a one-night stand than from a regular partner. That comes down the body knowing it may not get another chance off this partner. And by body I mean sub-conscious.
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