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Everything & Nothing
August 28 2015
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RHP User
9 years ago
so I just checked it out and I had one guy on shortlist, one poor lonely guy hanging out on my shortlist. I don't even remember him, have no clue when I added him anyway, he looks good, I'm gonna hit him up and then I looked at who had me on their shortlist and that was interesting, never looked at that before, not that I remember anyway. Lots I'm not interested in but there are some who I am very interested in, but they've never even flirted or anything. So my question too, is why do they put you on there and never make a move? Same reason I had him on there maybe, because I'm an idiot and forget to go back and check, or does it have some other purpose, similar to the hotlist showing that person on your feed etc. I don't really know the answer to that. I'll test it out. I'll put you on my shortlist and report back. Just make sure you leave lots of comments lol testing testing 123 I found one guy who has me on his shortlist, I had flirted with him, not once, but 4 times mind you, talk about a stalker and nothing back from him. Strange that I'm on his shortlist
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RHP User
9 years ago
so is the shortlist a wank bank ??
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LeMerovingien
9 years ago
No, it just adds what they post to your news feed and gives you notifications when they come online (I think). @ITM I have a few people on my short list that I've never messaged or flirted. Some are because it shows they haven't been online in a while, others are ones that I intended to message but never got around to it or have a template profile with no verification/validations. I check it every now and then to see if someone is deserving of a message!
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RHP User
9 years ago
"The mistake made by a transitory being who believes in the immutability of things. The fallacy is so named in D'Alembert's Dream by *Diderot, who gives the lovely illustration from *Fontanelle of the rose, who said that so far as any rose could remember, no gardener had ever died. A parallel problem afflicts *creationists who cannot see, and therefore do not credit, the ceaseless processes of geological change." (c/- Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy - current edition, newly acquired).
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Nice relaxing day yesterday - SundayCaught up with a couple of forumites yesterday for brunch and a few hours of yak. Few wines, plenty of stories. A few drinks and I decided to team up with one of said forumites for some naughty fun and we posted a datefinder. Got a lovely response from a hot male who was up for a tv/m/f. Some sexy banter via text set the scene. We were obviously keen for the pending hot time.One text suggested that he was happy to pay for the "dinner party". WTF? Not sure what that meant and somewhat forgotten about after some more cryptic texts. Anyway, meet time arrived as did he. Few wines and nice chat. Was looking like a memorable time as he was nice. The topic of recreational substance was raised and talked about and we made it clear we dont do that scene at all. Never have and never will. We moved on and shortly after made our move to get the action going.Before it evolved he excused himself to the bathroom which was normal. We waited. We waited. We got sexy with each other while we waited. He returned to the room somewhat different in stature. The two of us moved in. My friend took the top end, me the middle. I was having little response, my friend pulled back from the kissing and gave me a puzzled glance. She asked if I was having any luck. She went in for the pash again but shortly pulled back and said it was not on. Something was NQR. His mouth was stone dry. He had no response to either of us. He had turned into a dead fish.He denied it but the signs were unanimous. He had iced up in the bathroom. We shut it down and asked him to leave immediately. Fortunately he did. Didn't stop him from texting 2 hours later to see if he could come back. WTF again...... Our first experience with this culture and not one we want to visit again. Reviewing the lead up, we now know what a "dinner party" was. He was happy to provide substance.Maybe we are a bit naive. But will put it down to experience now. We were glad we had each other for backup. 1 on 1 may have been a little heavy.Careful people, it's a jungle out there.
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Seachange73
9 years ago
gave me a laugh.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Certainly not a funny story, considering how unpredictable ice users can be. Lucky escape I'd say.
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Did Mr and Mrs Urn leave? Can anyone tell me?
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RHP User
9 years ago
"Awkward silence"............................................ xx
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RHP User
9 years ago
Im too scared to say anything
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sweetgem
9 years ago
I have been under a lot of stresses and worries lately, so I hopped in here to find some distraction yesterday. I messaged a guy and was asked if he could come in my vagina if we proceeded into the bedroom. Then I heard no more from him after I said no! WTF was even an understatement of my reaction and surprise! I do honestly think that the quality of some men on RHP nowadays is seriously rather less excellent and pleasant!
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Here, just as IRL, you will always manage to find some people that will disappoint in one way or another. I'm glad you noted 'some men' and not lumped us altogether, as some are want to do on occasion - there are indeed others here that actually do behave well. Tall
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sweetgem
9 years ago
I won't be so cynical, nor naive, to brush all men with the same brush 😜 I have met (in here and in real life) good hearted men whom I respect enormously! In fact, there is one man in here whom I like to think of him as my mentor because, he has taught me a lot of things and guided me through my doubtful times of when I met the wrong crowd, etc. you know who you are and I honestly think that there is no words can describe my gratitude for your time given to chat to me, so thank you 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile
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sweetgem
9 years ago
For your compliment on my profile pic xx In my own experiences, well in the past two years anyway, the quality of some men in here has vanished significantly than when I joined a few years ago! 😕 - Posted from rhpmobile
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sweetgem
9 years ago
For a speedy recovery to Mrs urn, Mr urn. Be smiling and positive every morning when you wake up, just to suck in all the good energy and vibe from the earth to give you a brighter start of the day :) I know it's easier said than done, but trust me, I do not just say things like that so lightly, and in the actual fact, the sky above my head is still dark and cloudy, even though it's bright and sunny outside today 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Dogs trying to find the perfect spot to take a dump makes me laugh
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Luck_Dragon' Dogs trying to find the perfect spot to take a dump makes me laugh how/when once they're done, they appear to almost smile, arch their backs, stretch their legs, scratch the ground, then confidently strut away. Cracks me up.
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RHP User
9 years ago
She is old now but likes to hide away where nobody is watching🐶Q
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RHP User
9 years ago
today I discovered that if you need to pee while you're at the gym, getting those tight gym pants back on over your sweaty arse is a workout in itself...
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'Luck_Dragon' today I discovered that if you need to pee while you're at the gym, getting those tight gym pants back on over your sweaty arse is a workout in itself... The craftiness of those athletic wear manufacturers - making sure you get exercise whether you want it or not...
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' Single_guy, I really think it should be you who starts a new Venting thread, and I hope you will. Its a shame some people have to carry on with things and make things personal. Ahh well, new it was going to happen some day, surprised it went this far. I will not be starting a new thread and am sad and disalusioned with some peoples pettiness and antagonistic approach. All the best everyone.
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RHP User
9 years ago
To the amateur pics page and something catches your eye.....and you realise your boob is pic of the day - random!
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'SoftandCurious' To the amateur pics page and something catches your eye.....and you realise your boob is pic of the day - random! Thanks for your contact, and your more than welcome.. Tall
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
In the media today of the story of a fake Tinder account using the ID of a fireman. In the Melbourne area, there is a serial timewaster who claims to be a fireman. Victms are heavily hit up for a date but doesnt show. Even to the point of encouraging women to drive from country Victoria to the city for a date. No show, no message until next day when he promotes a repeat performance. And thats not Tinder I'm talking about. Single male and has a couples profile. Careful out there. It's a rainforest.
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Keeping it light and fluffy over here thanks......
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Read somewhere of your impending arrival back to melbourne. We've organised an end to our heatwave upon your arrival. We are putting our shorts and singlets back into the cupboard. You'll feel at home.
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'AnnieWhichway' Read somewhere of your impending arrival back to melbourne. We've organised an end to our heatwave upon your arrival. We are putting our shorts and singlets back into the cupboard. You'll feel at home. If you're looking for some continued warm, look up Sydney. Apparently we're supposed to be having lovely warm weather for the coming week, at least...Any work for you up this way ?
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RHP User
9 years ago
The movie, sausage party gets a little crazy. Think fellow rhp'ers will definitely approve tho 👍
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RHP User
9 years ago
Your comment on a previous thread about fries made me burst out laughing! I can relate....thank goodness the warmer weather is not too far away for us in the South East. Back to salads and healthy food!
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RHP User
9 years ago
The Safety Valve is blocked,please extinguish all old flames, especially the naked ones.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Not a major life issue but what is with control underwear? Not the full boson suck me in undies but the give a little push ones? Every time I sit down they roll on down and end up making me look like I have two tummies instead of one!
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RHP User
9 years ago
Supposed to have said blown - any time I try and type something slightly sexual my auto correct makes the most ridiculous corrections 😉
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
It appears, the safety valve, boiled and extinguished. :( Ms Foxy
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
I had a giggle too! 😂 Ms Foxy
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
She (bleep)reminded me of someone recently. Bit like (bleep)dont you think with the attitude?
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
In SWB. My stream is full of likes for a thread in there. Such is life when you have female poster friends........
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Seachange73
9 years ago
Just got back. It's past midnight. late flight, late departure, later arrival. However, the weather in Melb tonight has been great , so far. wow! As I walked to the taxi rank, it is t-shirt weather. Thanks Melbourne weather Gods for the welcome.... I feel loved. I asked the taxi driver to drive along the Albert Park Scenic Lakeside drive and it was just wonderful.... on my right, the lake glimmering against the clear skies with the moon shining bright and the winding road set against the dark outlines of the office building and hotels lined up along Queens road on my left, all lit up like a wonderful long stretched xmas tree. One of my favourite night drive routes. Hardly any traffic and so close to the city. Ahhh Melbourne. Tall, funny that, I just came back from Sydney town and it really is beautiful there. Feels like summer (23-25?) and enjoyed the walk from my Hotel to work with a strong soy latte in my hand (I needed the extra strength considering late nights at work and crashing in my hotel). Each morning when I wake up in my hotel, I wonder where I was and if George Clooney really gave me lapdance while I was reading work materials. Yes it was. Sadly.... . I better lay off the juice... I WUV YA MELBOURNE!!!! I wuv ya Annie!!!!! mwah!!!!
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' Ritchie's date with (Bleep!) was seriously painful to watch! Haven't seen the latest one yet.....I tape them and binge watch them when my daughter comes over. There's been a few painful moments. I don't know why anyone would put themselves through that experience!
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RHP User
9 years ago
I'm still waiting for my thread titled :- "Blowin ya load like a Japanese whore called Tsu Na-Mi" To be approved.....the next model venting thread ya know :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Great to hear you enjoyed your time up here, and the lovely return you had in getting back home. But what the hell was your drink laced with - George Clooney lapdancing ?Or was it simply the euphoria of being in our lovely city that got you carried away.....Will have to see if George can be arranged for your next visit. I imagine he has quite a busy schedule, with the imagination of millions of women around the world. Tall
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'usrightnow' Yeah, we thought about such a thread, however, as we still don't have IP, (we smile 😊 😊 and wave 👋👋 hello again mods), we decided against it. A thread of that nature really needs an OP who can contribute quickly when required, most particularly to quell the rising natives 😉😃😊. .Mr. urn. . I don't have IP either, but I don't see that as a concern. Refer to my new thread The Steam Room - now open for business. Tall
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RHP User
9 years ago
I started a thread for venting yesterday but didn't spell it out. I figured it wouldn't go anywhere because I excluded the fora. But it's the fora posts that destroy such threads, so that made sense to me. Life is like that... Peachy
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Glad it made sense to you.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Could you please call me Peachy? And thanks. Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
No one likes to see regular forum posters leave... its a personal choice. But this is Hotel California. You can check out but you can never leave. I know, I tried .......
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
And arent you glad you took a penthouse suite........neighbour. X
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MissBishere
9 years ago
Has anyone ever tried the Atkins diet? I am just 5 days in and I've never eaten so well on any diet. I have to admit the detox for the first 4 am days was pure hell with headaches/migraines nausea and generally wanting to kill people. But day 5 and I feel amazing. I have bacon and eggs for dinner with tomatoe, spinach, cheese and cream Quarter of a chicken (with skin) for lunch with spinach, cream cheese Eggs for breakfast Celery and cream cheese for a snack And cream in my coffee rather then milk. Amazing!
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RHP User
9 years ago
Went to the shop to buy some milk and a woman walked out as i walked in, there was tampon still in its wrapper lying on the floor where she'd been standing.If I'd picked it up and said "Excuse me did you drop this", what could possibly have gone wrong?However it's also possible she was out and about and had taken one tampon with her to keep her going until she got home, so potentially I could've saved from some discomfort and inconvenience.What did do?I surreptitiously kicked it under the counter
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Sorry. You do have many aliases
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
Would make an interesting forum topic. 👍 Ms Foxy
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RHP User
9 years ago
And never have I been Peaches. But thanks Annie. Peachy
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
By golly, I've seen some very sexy male profile pics of late. *(attempts) wolf whisle* Ms Foxy
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RHP User
9 years ago
Where do you buy sex toys? What is important when you buy sex toy? Quality? Price? We are couple and have opened a sex shop, still very young and would like to know what would make you buy from our shop? Whats important?
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
What was the story with your very short name change the other night? Removed?
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'loveplace123' Where do you buy sex toys? What is important when you buy sex toy? Quality? Price? We are couple and have opened a sex shop, still very young and would like to know what would make you buy from our shop? Whats important? That didn't last long
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Logged in this morning to find I had 6 views since I logged out last night. Nearly fell outta me chair. Not bad for an "old' bloke.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I remember us having a similar conversation in the past Annie. It was your bad memory back then too. I give you far more credit than that. Peachy
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Cant remember that but do remember I've played with your names over the last couple of years. Annie xx
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RHP User
9 years ago
It matters to me and not to you obviously. You know what to call me when it matters, and that's the next time I will acknowledge you. I think it went down a lot like this last time too. Must have me a look see later. Deja vu... Peachy
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Seachange73
9 years ago
Quoting 'Tall_n_Hard' Logged in this morning to find I had 6 views since I logged out last night. Nearly fell outta me chair. Not bad for an "old' bloke. Good for you. next, you'll be Australia's most wanted. Lol
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Seachange73
9 years ago
so picking up a few 'key' pieces for spring... spring palette decided upon based on Vogue and Bazaar and Instyle. new leather jacket from Guess, some beaded silk floral skirts and tops for spring, funky cut skirts, a couple of pairs of 'interesting' statement shoes/heels to go with my spring suits. lots of long lined vests and black pants. and hats... yes, hats. Sooooo happy....
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RHP User
9 years ago
Peachy in fact
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RHP User
9 years ago
I met David Bowie last night. Well, 3 in fact, at a Labyrinth Ball. Fun to see people go all out in their outfits. Much fun and frivolities. I want more masquerade balls!
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'lilyorchid' so picking up a few 'key' pieces for spring... spring palette decided upon based on Vogue and Bazaar and Instyle. new leather jacket from Guess, some beaded silk floral skirts and tops for spring, funky cut skirts, a couple of pairs of 'interesting' statement shoes/heels to go with my spring suits. lots of long lined vests and black pants. and hats... yes, hats. Sooooo happy.... Is all that new wardrobe in aid of the upcoming spring racing carnival ? Some nice new clothes, a flutter here'n'there, and checking out all the magnificent stallions in the field ....?I would like to see you in a particular pair of 'statement' heels - ones that would have you be able to see 'eye-to-eye' with me...that would indeed be quite interesting to see. Tall
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Did my own archeological dig. Were you once named Cream and Peaches?
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RHP User
9 years ago
The Block or Aussie Survivor.....choices choices....
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'AnnieWhichway'Peachy Did my own archeological dig. Were you once named Cream and Peaches? Anyone knows the cream doesn't cum before the peaches. And that's Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
Feel sick. Now I have to wait a whole hour before starting on the tim tams.
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RHP User
9 years ago
"Never say never". I have used Peaches in my name in the past. In 2010 according to my search. See, I knew you knew you were more capable than what you expressed. Hm, Peachy
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'SoftandCurious' Feel sick. Now I have to wait a whole hour before starting on the tim tams. have to wait a whole hour ? You going for a swim first ?
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
That is just Peachy........😎
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RHP User
9 years ago
It's a simple calculation of giving me the best chance of keeping them down 😉 Mr Urn they are indeed! Keep mine in the freezer.
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'usrightnow' Quoting 'SoftandCurious' Just ate my weight in nachosFeel sick. Now I have to wait a whole hour before starting on the tim tams. zest of lime) and light sour cream with some tobacco sauce in it, yum. And we're a bit like that, you think haven't .Mr. urn. . Indeed ? Would have thought that was bit of an unusual product to mix in with a dip. Presumably for those who just can't go without a puff for too long. Tall
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Seachange73
9 years ago
Quoting 'usrightnow' Quoting 'SoftandCurious' Just ate my weight in nachosFeel sick. Now I have to wait a whole hour before starting on the tim tams. We love nachos. Good corn chips, Mexi-beans, finely diced tomatoes and capsicum, barbeque sauce, sweet chilli sauce, covered in a good cheese, with fresh made avocado dip (with plenty of lemon juice, little lime juice, and some zest of lime) and light sour cream with some tobacco sauce in it, yum. And we're a bit like that, you think haven't had them for ages, you have a huge plate, then think, don't want them again for a while. However, while eating them, you think, this is great, we should have these more than once every few months 😃😊. .And Tim Tams are a food group right? Especially the dark chocolate ones 😊😊.Mr. urn. . hahaha.... Oh Mr. Urn... you are terrible.... Love it. my boys make nachos as entre as I make dinner. I always have mozarella and tasty cheese in the fridge and a packet of nacho chips in the cupboard. I also love jalapeno chillis on my nachosl I make my own salsa sauce and bottle/preserve them, about every 3 months. I have been making it for nearly 20 yrs now and learned to make it while living in Dallas. so a bit of TexMex recipe. The supermarket brands just dont cut it. Full of sugar and not hot at all. And I put more cumin and fresh coriander in my recipe. No sugar. I make them spicy and my friends always get a bottle or two (some friends are greedy and ask for 3 bottles). My only request for them is to provide me with small bottles (re-used jam or stuffed olive bottles) for their salsa. If we ever meet, I will give you a bottle or two of spicy salsa. Sharing is caring....
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Seachange73
9 years ago
going for a run this lunch time to burn off all the fat from eating out every night last week, while working away . It is cold out there but at least the sun is out. and the nearby park looks great. can't wait
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Seachange73
9 years ago
Quoting 'SoftandCurious' It's a simple calculation of giving me the best chance of keeping them down 😉 Mr Urn they are indeed! Keep mine in the freezer. Tim tams can last up to 4-6months at my place. Even my boys wont touch it because of the high sugar content! This is the downside of raising kids with a healthy eating diet. Going the grocery shopping with them can really be a downer as I love my Rocky Road ice cream, my only food obsession.My boys would always remind me we should eat healthier and cut down on sugar based food and minimal junkfood (chips, etc) and eat more vegies and fruits, which we do always anyway. They both give me a 'tut'tut'. bad mom' disapproving look when I wander towards the ice cream isle.... And when I get the ice cream tub, they take it off the cart and put it back, making feel like a deliquent child on a shopping trip. but, but... Maybe I'll just roll on the floor and throw a tantrum to make them give in and hand back my liter of Rocky Road icer cream. Wonder if that will work?
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RHP User
9 years ago
A short clip about the ball I was at on Saturday night. on youtube: "Labyrinth" Masquerade Ball Sydney 2016 TVC Ahh. Tingles watching it. (And no, I couldn't spot me in the crowd)
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
That'll teach ya for being such a goody two-shoes with your kids - now they make sure to keep you in line - haha.You could of course always go out shopping by yourself - easier to sneak in the odd piece of naughty food. Tall
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RHP User
9 years ago
I pinched this recipe from a Health Food Cafe, still sweet and might ease your ice cream cravings.....whiz up some chopped dates, cacao powder, honey and almond milk.......yummy "Chocolate Milk Shake" and not too much guilt xx
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Seachange73
9 years ago
And I do the occasional solo shopping. what lands on my shopping cart, stays in my shopping cart. ;-)
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RHP User
9 years ago
Sadly 99% of the time when I get the packet out the freezer it's empty. Husband doesn't realise how close he's coming to a divorce.
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'SoftandCurious' Sadly 99% of the time when I get the packet out the freezer it's empty. Husband doesn't realise how close he's coming to a divorce. If your hubby was smart, he would ditch the empty packet of TT's and convince you that you finished them off. Fancy leaving an empty packet showing your guilt ! Tall
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RHP User
9 years ago
It's just mean! I'm like "oooh tim tams!" Get all excited and flustered and then - nada. Wtf? He also likes to put pegs on the dogs' tails. Cruel cruel man I married!
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RHP User
9 years ago
At least it was because you were having fun doll. I hope you recover quickly so you can get back out there 😘
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RHP User
9 years ago
I'm sorry but I did laugh! The image of you headbanging whilst dressed to the nines tickled my funny bone!
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RHP User
9 years ago
Your friends are lucky people! Your culinary skills make my mouth water
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RHP User
9 years ago
I've had the flu since Friday and I'm feeling very sorry for myself My kitchen bench looks like a cross between a pharmacist and a health food shop...guess I just have to wait it out
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RHP User
9 years ago
Lurve,lurve the TTs..except the coffee ones...yuk,yuk,yuk,👿Q
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RHP User
9 years ago
Looks good. But much smaller than I thought it would be. Not a big event then?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'SoftandCurious' Sadly 99% of the time when I get the packet out the freezer it's empty. Give peas a chance
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RHP User
9 years ago
New range of ice cream products to check out at woolies just in time for spring.
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RHP User
9 years ago
sorry on phone n didnt think it had gone thru
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'PhoenixGirl' I'm sorry but I did laugh! The image of you headbanging whilst dressed to the nines tickled my funny bone! Phoenix I have to say I've been giggling about it as well.....I do hope your ok today lovely Betty xx Blissxx
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
My only management is holding a big stick. Dont play nice, 20 of my best....... And the 12 month aniversary of the thread in 5 days. Well done everyone.
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
I won $40. I would like to share it with them, but alias have no idea who they are. 😖 Ms Foxy
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Seachange73
9 years ago
Quoting 'AnnieWhichway' My only management is holding a big stick. Dont play nice, 20 of my best....... And the 12 month aniversary of the thread in 5 days. Well done everyone. looking for a rocky road ice cream cake recipe now... for the 1 year anniversary of your thread... and a good G&T to go with it.......
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Seachange73
9 years ago
Quoting 'soretongue' New range of ice cream products to check out at woolies just in time for spring. will check it out this week, solo. however, hard to dissuade me from my good ol' Rocky Road.... Ive seen the pistachio and some raspberry ones. is that what you talking about at woolies?
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Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Computers can be wonderful things - when they work as we wish.No need to worry about the new 'ingredient' - it will probably surface in due course anyway. So many choices already with ciggies in mind. Might even find some tobacco flavoured ice-cream one day. Or even tobacco flavoured Tim Tams - who knows ??All in a bit of good fun ! Tall
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MsJonesy
9 years ago
Head to SBS Insight for a show on literacy levels in Australia. Some very personal stories which may help others understand the complexity and difficulties faced by those with low literacy levels. And folks, literacy includes being able to read numbers. Imagine not being able to read the dosage instructions on a packet of children's paracetamol (one of the examples given on the show).
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RHP User
9 years ago
Obviously the nature of such matters warrants full and proper discussion in the interests of all citizens (both now and into the future). Thus far, all of the discussions I've heard, and the articles and opinion pieces I've seen have been highly emotionally charged and full of political point scoring. That being the case, and wishing to avoid those pitfalls, I write in hope of ascertaining some lesser discussed facts, and the opinions/perspectives of others to weigh in consideration; particularly those which have not been raised or discussed broadly elsewhere. I must stress, my purpose is not to point score or to discriminate, disparage or vilify. Rather, I seek mature, open discussion to fill some knowledge gaps and round out the debate. If same sex marriage is to be passed into Law (whether by Plebiscite or by Parliamentary vote), there are matters beyond the immediate political and civil rights considerations currently under discussion which also will need to be successfully managed in order to maintain a cohesive civil society. I know and understand there are deeply held concerns over the potential divisiveness of this issue in the community. Again, my purpose is not to stir that up. Rather, I think this potential divisiveness is the very reason these other aspects need to be discussed. Surely, greater transparency will aid quality debate and better management of community expectations. With these considerations in mind, I'd be grateful if someone will shed light on these (and/or other) supplemental aspects. Is there actually any clarity as to the numbers of same sex couples who do wish to be married in a formal ceremony? I have heard various estimates, but is there a definitive source of such information? As an interesting side note with its own implications, I quote another of my own posts from the "Safety Valve" thread (10AUG16): Quote: "xojulesox, lilyorchid et al Census privacy issues have been raised persistently for decades. You may be amused to learn the views expressed by one Prof Colin Howard noted in ALRC Report No 12 in 1979 (ISBN 0642034230). An excerpt of paragraph 35 of that report reads as follows: "The Constitution 35 Paragraph 12(c) Census and Statistics Act 1905, imposes no substantive limits on the questions which may be asked in a census. Provided the procedures are observed there is no statutory limit on the information which may be sought. In 1976 doubts were expressed concerning the validity of paragraph 12(c). Professor Cohn Howard suggested that startling consequences might follow if this paragraph were to he held a valid exercise of power: You could be fined, or indeed, if Parliament saw fit to make the law stricter, imprisoned for refusing to give full details of your sex life (my emphasis) or how much toilet paper you use . The view taken by Professor Howard is that it is possible that the High Court might limit paragraph 51(xi), Constitution, to authorising collections for the purpose of ss. 24 and 105, Constitution, and matters ancillary thereto. Even if paragraph 51 (xi) were to be given a wider interpretation, the High Court might well limit it to collections of information relevant to the exercise of other heads of Commonwealth power..." Unquote It may be quite reasonably and properly argued most aspects of life for most people will remain unchanged if same sex marriage passes into Law. However, same sex marriage will bear some consequences to all of the community. For example: Irrespective who occupies political office, beyond the immediate political and civil rights implications of same sex marriage, beyond the current high profile of the Census and Privacy, but in recognition of the current high profile of and calls for Federal Government Budget repair, is anyone aware of any plans or projections for management of the ongoing financial implications? Would it be reasonable to expect same sex marriages would experience the same/similar divorce rates as heterosexual marriages? Is anyone aware of any estimate of the additional funding that will be required for the operation of the Family Law Courts? Has there been any discussion as to how the Family Law Courts might adjudicate child custody disputes between divorcing same sex couples (of either gender)? What factors might weigh into the Courts' consideration (particularly where each partner are more or less evenly matched in terms of income earning capacity, willingness and capability of caring for their progeny)? How far along are the Courts in consideration of either In-vitro fertilization, or of adoption of children by same sex couples? All parents (regardless of their sexuality) qualify for a range of payments from the Department of Human Services (such as Childcare Benefit/Childcare Rebate). What of Family Tax Benefit Parts A & B? Has there been any budget projection promulgated? Quite obviously, these questions are far from exhaustive. There are many more. I ask these not as reason or excuse to deny passage of Law. I would ask for suggestion as to how these elements of the matter might be fairly and appropriately managed. Is anyone open to discussing these (or other) aspects of the same sex marriage debate?
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