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Affairs: How to keep your lover a secret
July 23 2009
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RHP User
16 years ago
... get another number and another mobile phone, you won't stand a chance being stingy and try to communicate with both using one number & one device. Mmmh, unless the other one is overseas.... but then again, just get another mobile.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Buy a motorbike and go for regular rides. I aint lying. The reality is that one day, you are going to get caught. Hugs Gaz
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RHP User
16 years ago
I'm serious... Buy the motorbike.. that's your ticket out of the house... and join a rider's club... lol... and actually go on some rides. OK.. now here's the rub... you set some rules initially like.. I just wanna shag people... some anonymous sex.. you know.. exchange no names... no details.... stuff like that.. meet for one offs in darkened sleazy places..... and then you meet someone you really connect with. It's completely accidental.. it's random co-incidence... but you really connect... and then you exchange phone numbers.. then you talk about stuff.. your personal life.... all the things you have in common... you exchange baby photos and personal secrets.... you fall in love. You've been completely honest with the fuck about your relationship status.... but the fuck deserves more from you than you can give... and loves you enough not to want to see you hurt.... so remains descrete for your sake.... all the sneaking about.. the lame excuses you use .... the protection of your mobile phone from your partner ... you automatically delete every text message ... it's a complicated existence and you will get caught, eventually. You will fall in love with someone else and that's when your real problems begin. We are all capable of loving more than one person at a time... and once you are doing that.... it seems natural to you... but other people dont understand... and you will feel like a criminal, but all you need is a good defence. (Great song) :) Gaz
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RHP User
16 years ago
If you have a husband that doesn't give a shit about you, we lead seperate lives so all of the above isn't an issue!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hi as we are experienced in this field i find if your married and seeking lovers better to go to a hotel unless they are single of course i think first meet for coffee/drink then decide. I wouldnt exchange numbers until you are really going to meet someone as there are alot of stalkers out there. Ive found with myself single pple tend to be a bit more clingier than married/attached people just make sure you set the rules for calling or smsing then everything should be cruisey. Cheers
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RHP User
16 years ago
if you arent happy at home .... END it and find someone that is willing to forfil you and/or share.... simple not rocket science ...... its ppl like you that make me STAY single
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RHP User
16 years ago
You maybe happy at home in every other aspect of your life and relationshp. You may really love your wife or husband and they really love you and yet your partner may have little or no sex drive leaving you frustrated and sexually up tight. There is probably children involved and financial concerns that would drasticly effect the families welfare. I can not for the life of me see why you would split a marriage leaving in it's wake emotional and financial destruction over one issue when everything else is great. If you can live with it and get away with it, without your partner never findiing out, why not have extra martial sex. No one gets hurt and the marriage can actually be better for it as there's no frustration and resentment. Love and sex together is great but don't have to go hand in hand.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Don't bloody cheat in the first place..... if your marriage is in so much of a state that you feel the need to cheat on your wife, then it is time to leave. Do your wife the biggest favour...even though she may not see it as such to begin with.... admit your affair and leave!!! And as for coming onto forums and asking a question like that...PATHETIC!!! Grow some balls and be a man....... Bren
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RHP User
16 years ago
Just got to love the judgemental types..."digital people", they don't see the shades in between, who knows what your justifications are, but i do know there are some absolutely woefull relationships out there were the financial/personal costs to the guy/girl are so great that leaving is not an option.........personally i could'nt cheat....To Lazy and a really bad memory and couldn't lie to save myself, lucky i have a brilliant lady! but i reckon sooner or later you will get caught out. If you are going to do it, start making preperations for the inevitable disaster! Cheers Nev
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RHP User
16 years ago
Bren- Who died and made you lord and master reigning over everyone else's situation? You do not know the who, the why or the whatfor's invovled that people in each individual circumstance seek sexual contact outside their relationships... and it is none of your business for people to have to share it with you just so your moral code can be satisfied. There are plenty of prudes around who will think that you're pathetic running around having sex outside of your marriage, even if your husband is there watching... so wake up, grow up and let people live their own lives their own way. Nothing wrse than a swinging snob who thinks that they're moral code is "right" and everyone else is wrong. Warm hugs Gaz
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RHP User
16 years ago
I hve to agree with Gaz on this one...I think if your looking for an extra-marital affair then thats your business. But you need to take into account everyones feelings/actions and reactions to that, including your wife's! I unfortunately got burnt by having an affair with a married man - but I will NEVER do it again! Married men for me are a no-no. But if you are married and your on here and your wife doesn't know, then maybe she should know, in my humble opinion. Good luck Cat x
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kassmebits
16 years ago
I have to agree with all responses so far, I have played with Married men, have been unfaithful myself. feel I have grown up now!! if you play you will get caught, nothing surer!! The pain it causes when you are caught is not worth it!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Gaz, When Descretelover put his question out in the public forum he made it everyone's business, myself included, you gave him your opinion and I gave him mine!!, thats what makes free speech so wonderful. I am NOT going to get into a slanging match with you as you are usually quite a witty and interesting poster in forums, BUT... haven't you..in the last few sentences of your post to me...done exactly what you accuse me off!!, you don't approve of my lifestyle which is your right, as I don't approve of cheaters trying to justify cheating. Happy hunting Bren xo
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RHP User
16 years ago
no two ways about it, and it is not the fact that you have shagged someone else. It is about trust. This site promotes openess and trust. If there is a prob at home, one would try to talk about it with their partner first. To tracker68, there is no grey areas, all very black and white. You are married, you made a vow, if you have an affair for whatever reason, and your partner knows nothing about it, then you have broken that vow, and i believe, you show your true character as a man. I have never, and will never cheat on the most important person in my life. Yes we have discussed 3somes and moresomes, however we have always discussed it, have never gone behind their back. And really, if you have kids you have even more to lose. Think about the consequences, and what will happen, because sooner or later, you will be caught!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Have not been on here long and there are a lot of people mainly guys who almost try to justify cheating as swinging which it is not. I agree with a few on here that you will get caught. I, as an openly honest guy, struggle with somebody actually asking for tips on how not to get caught cheating and quite frankly you are not going to like what everyone has to say on the subject especially from the ladies. I have also seen what it does to familys and children when the enevitable happens Throws a quizzical glance at Gaz, interesting there if a touch hypocritical on your dressing down of an opinion given by a couple for differing with your opinion lol
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RHP User
16 years ago
Meah.. OK... maybe I did peak too early. Sorry Bren.
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RHP User
16 years ago
If you live separate lives, well thats useful. But you have to ask why be together at all. I guess its for the kids which is what cheating husbands and wives say. Whats the right thing to do? Nobody really knows. I say its what makes you feel comfortable
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RHP User
16 years ago
The dude didnt ask a question to get vilified for what you percieve as his indiscretions. For all you know, maybe he has a cheating gf and wants to know how to catch her out... maybe..... well there are millions of maybe... as many maybe as there are relationships.... so just stick to answering his question.. vis vis... what works .. what doesn't work.... what were your experiences.... these are all very interesting questions on their own.... and please stop moralising on the situation. Even Christians would say "he who is without sin cast the first stone"... so why not pass the bong around and come up with some whitty and entertaining responses. :) Incidently, descretelover, Friday night just happens to be my motorbike riding night so I get all decked out in my leathers tonight. :) Hugs Gaz
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RHP User
16 years ago
C'mon Gaz, why stop there? I was just getting into your little war of words. haha Gaz did nail it (yet again) in his earlier post. It's a complicated existence and you will get caught. And Gaz would know, he's a lying cheating bastard with no morals.
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RHP User
16 years ago
ok i see both POV's well i like to think i can... ok so sex is bad at home (or not enough doesnt get u want what u want..ect ) i get that! But #1.. before anything else!... have you both had a chat about it?? perhaps he/she feels the same ... Most of the time if 1 partner isnt geting what they want then the other is unsatisfied aswell!! So i say at the very least (before we get to the cheating stage) HAVE A CHAT! ask her/him if they feel tottally fulfilled (sexually).. if the answer is NO then go from there.. ask if they feel they would be ok seeking out ur fulfillment elsewhere... if not then i say end it.... but thats ME.. not you. the only real thing i have to offer is the whole CHAT thing... it is always the best and most eye opening part of a relationship! Especially if you have children and dont want to end the partnership over sex! most women i know would be open to it!.. if they arent open to what you want and you are/can be VERY discrete over the whole thing.... NO PROBS! In my VERY honest opinon... I feel that CHEATING is not right! and if you go at in the most honest & open way it can be classed as not cheating.. BUT both partners MUST agree! on everything :)
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RHP User
16 years ago
the real answer to the question is....... dont do it its the only way you wont get caught out its the only way you wont lose everything/one you have.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Mate, you know I like to be called names during foreplay.... but you forgot to mention how I'm a dirty little cum slut. ... I suppose you both will want to dish out some terrible punushment for being so naughty... but you'll have to tie me down first, spit on my cock and tell me all about what a bad bad man I've been. :p "And Gaz would know, he's a lying cheating bastard with no morals"
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RHP User
16 years ago
I have read most of the comments and you know something. Every one has a good point and RHP Babe, you described your opinion very well. Wise words indeed. But I can't do that right now so its back to the original question. How to keep an affair a secret? No. 1 rule -Dont get caught!
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RHP User
16 years ago
When all is said and done, if you need tips on how to NOT get caught out cheating, as that's effectively what it is.......CHEATING........then why stay with your partner???? Yes, we all have our own views, some moralistic, some not so - It is YOUR business, it is YOUR life, it is YOUR choice - what about the person you made a commitment to, probably in front of family and friends - to NOT cheat on them, to stay true to them???? I feel sorry that they are under a deluded cloud that you actually do love and respect the original decision to stay with them for life. Any relationship between consenting adults should be based on trust and honesty. I'm in my second marriage and I have vowed to stay true and honest with my partner. Pity my first husband, who is the father of my wonderful teenagers couldn't grasp that concept. My partner knows I am on here chatting to people and is ok with that. If I ever felt the need to hook up with someone other than him for sex I would discuss my feeling with him honestly. Yes Gaz, you CAN love more than one person in your life, you can want to be with more than one person in your life and for some people it does work. Not all though. When we muddy the boundries of sex vs relationships, that's when a lot of males get themselves into hot water and open up all sorts of problems for themselves. I also agree that some people stay together for all the wrong reasons - I've seen it. Children are WAY more resilient than we give them credit for. When my first marriage broke up I was scared shitless wondering how I would cope with these little people on my own, how was I going to pay the bills, where would I live - would I ruin their lives because Mum and Dad weren't living under the same roof?? Well, they survived unscathed and actually have a great relationship with their father and with their step father. Seriously, if you're considering an "affair", then something isn't right with your marriage. Talk it out, be honest and if you still feel you need more - use the door and save a lot of hurt. You will get caught, maybe not soon but when you do the fallout can be worse than being upfront to start with. Good luck, but be realistic - you would be surprised the number of women that realise men chase skirt just to satisfy their urges but ultimately DO love their partners.
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RHP User
16 years ago
I'm a man who was cheated on by my wife, I forgave her the first time (seven years into our marriage). Then it happened again seven or eight years later, I wasn't 100% sure what was going on but I knew something wasn't right, So I'm guessing your partner probably knows something is going on also, but doesn't want to say anything because they're affraid of being alone. In the end I just asked the question and she admitted it and decided to leave me for the other man. I've been the victim and will never put up with it again. Good luck to you Discretelover, I hope your partner never finds out, BUT THEY WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Regards sevenam
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Frankiesgame
16 years ago
I believe that to ask a question like this, DL is leaving himself open to responses like he has got. Its rather a silly question I think!! You will get caught if you cheat, only advice i can give!! And Krispy, since when have you played with Married men, you naughty,naughty girl!!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
I can only hope for my relationship to remain honest and open, and communication at the FOREFRONT. I hope that my relationship never, EVER suffers to the point where one of us has to cheat. And the term 'has to' is just another way of justifying your actions. I don't really see the shades of grey in this subject. I would be absolutely DEVESTATED if my partner cheated on me. If you have any love left in your relationship, expect your partner to be devestated when she finds out too. The fallout from your actions may be so much worse than the 'cost' involved in leaving now. Don't expect your kids to not find out sooner or later too. Sorry, I don't have any advice on how to keep your affair secret.
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RHP User
16 years ago
well my opinion (Mrs Wacountry here) is that cheating at all is a low down act, I agree with many other posts here that if you are that unhappy end it, don't say oh we staying together for the kids, it has been proven that it is worse for kids to be in an unhappy marriage than what it is for them to have separated/divorced parents. I think you are just trying to justify screwing around!! When I have a partner, he is the ONLY one I sleep with. If ya not happy then talk to her, maybe she will even be open with you being on here.... My Ex did exactly what you are doing, went online behind my back, and no, it didnt help..... I think its low........ Lil
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RHP User
16 years ago
I agree with sevenam - I was in a 17yr marriage with a guy that couldn't keep his zipper up. Time & again I forgave believing the "I love you, you're my world" lines. Well, he finally left me for his younger hotter lover. They are together now & she has NO clue he's fooling around behind her back. I then entered a relationship with another guys who told me he was faithful - that was until his new girlfriend started "stalking" me online - yes full on hammering me every which way I turned. Now I'm free of both & a little sad I was taken in by two guys the same. It seems most males I've had relationships with, even before I was married was always looking for something better, younger, firmer. I'm just me, average, stupid sense of humour, real & hoping one day to find a person who wants me, not 100 others, just me. You'll get caught & pity the poor woman who believes you love her & will love her until she's too old to find someone else REAL. If you're not happy, use the door - the hurt isn't worth hiding behind motel doors for.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Ok here goes, As an Ex PI who has investigated 100's of these cases, you want to know how to have an affai and not get caught- Step 1 Take acting lessons- Seriously, the first giveaway are the little nuances she has pcked up which you don't even know about. Step 2 Harass her for sex, as much as you can, as often as you can, and be playful about it Step 3 Don't even think about using your mobile or a second phone to make contact. Step 4 You need a wingman. Ask your best mate-who will know about this affair before long anyway, to screen your calls for you, and pass on any messages. If he has a GF or wife, then disregard, as sooner or later, you will do someting to piss her off and she will spill the beans, and yes she will know all about it cause your mate will tell her. Gotta be something in it for your mate, beer works well as does free dinners, or if he's single, a piece of the pie so to speak All in all there needs to be absolutely no "Traceable" contact between you and you lover. This way if you are caught, "Deny Deny Deny" and then pray she believes you. If this doesn't work, as you will still be in the kneeling position, stretch your neck as far forward as it will go, pucker up and kiss your ass goodbye, cause you will lose EVERYTHING! Then again, i have only seen this happen some 300-400 times never know, you may be the one to run the guantlet and actually get away with it mwhahahahahahahahaha
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RHP User
16 years ago
I was not so naieve as to think that a post such as this would simply elicit a series of "Here's what ya do..." responces. I fully expected some abuse from the moral crusaders, and the useual chorus of "Just dont do it". I appreciate there are those who think Im no more than a crimal, there are some who've defended me, then there's those who even answered the question that was asked! I want surprised by ANY of the responces so far and I more than welcome peoples opinions and regard them as just that. We live in a free country and everyone is free to state their opinion. What find interesting is that most everyone believes it fate accompli that you will get caught. Now I'm not so arrogant as to believe that I can never get caught but why does everyone think its a ceartainty. Is it an urban myth that we've heard so many times that we've all come to believe it or is everyone here talking from personal experiance (I know some have stated it was)? DL
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RHP User
16 years ago
most people have said that you would be caught! why is this do you think? i doubt they are all Moral Crusaders!! they say this because in all honesty 9 out of 10 do get caught!! you can plan all you want, but you will be lucky if you get away with it. Best way not to get caught? dont do it! Frankie you make me laugh!!!!!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Descrete - most people are talking from personal experience - go ahead, if you're deluded enough to think you can carry on an affair or take a lover without your wife finding out - GOOD LUCK. You guys can't figure us out but heck most guys are so readable is sad. Can we revisit this post once you do get caught? I'd like a side bet lol
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RHP User
16 years ago
*Descrete Lover . all the above comments noted ! First you'll need another personality (the other one remains at the scene); Don't get another phone . Dead bust - even if it's empty. nuthin like generating some suspicion (get your PC deloused as well), if you must use your phone - DELETE all entries ..whoopsie just hitting the redial darling .. & up comes Sammi's hot exchange; for example Hope your cologne is good enough to cover the 'bit on the side' scent of ..yanno ..& the hair ..oh don't forget traces of makeup; The freshly showered return has gotta get the bloodhounds on the case. What about the rendezvous ? Definately an interesting exercise well planned and executed for an anonomous exchange ; Throw in some excellent time management skills with the ability to be at two places almost simultaneously . Space travel skills recommended . Exemplary clandestine financial & bank statement cloaking skills mandatory. Now with all these dynamic abilities on the boil I'm sure your euphoric paranoia will create some great story telling moments - DON'T . And while the heart is racing & blood pressure is pulsing as you're on your way out ... yet again .. 'darling honey' whispers, ever so softly, in your ear - " I hope it's worth it " . Communication and some lively honest discussion has a lot going for it ! Especially about where we spend all our time . Me thinks .
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RHP User
16 years ago
Eagles - Hotel California Some people just love the adrenalin To be honorable and true to oneself compassion & understanding respect and consideration before judging . . . added to above
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RHP User
16 years ago
dl, if you're with someone long enough you do start to know their habits and behaviours, when people have affairs, these changes. it might take a while for the partner to notice the changes, but they do sooner or later, some refuse to believe, some choose to overlook it and some confront it. also when you're having an affair, there's other people involved, call them witnesses if you like, not just the person you're having an affair with. it's very hard to control other peoples discretion.
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RHP User
16 years ago
I think anyone who has been successful certainly wouldn't risk giving the game away by confessing here. Many years ago I had an affair for a year, but was caught in the end by an unexplainable discarded hotel voucher in the rubbish. It lasted so long mainly because of a trusting wife, not because I was particularly smart or careful - even then she knew something was wrong but not what it was. I think that when you fall in love you take risks and do things that a logical person wouldn't - so its obvious something is wrong to anyone who is looking. And no I wouldn't go through it again - the affair wasn't worth it, and with my wife even though we stayed together - the trust has never been the same, but at least it made me understand who was important, and I still try to make it up to her. Still addressing your question I've always wondered (in a sort ofacademic way) if this would work... If your new lover accepts you are married, and your wife doesn't know her - go with your wife to a swingers party, and encourage her to meet someone else for the night. Then spend some time with your lover as someone new you have met on the night. (Hmm having written it down it doesn't sound plausible or long term.) Sorry can't give a more definitive answer Mr SR
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RHP User
16 years ago
When I was cheated, I had already sensed it before she said a word.... that's what you get for being an empath. I haven't been confronted persopnally with what doesn't work... except to say that if you know someone well enough, you know when somethings "not right" .... so getting caught is just a question of time. This is probably because part of the delight of cheating is actually the risk of being caught. The naughtiness of cheating is kind of attractive. Its a bit like anal sex... it's naughty and that's why women do it.. hell mate, they dont have a prostate gland so there has to be another reason..lol)! Some people go out of their way to get caught.. you know.... like you are.... by blabbing this crap all over a forum that is searchable through google, for instance. Anyway what do I care!...... I'm just a lying cheating bastard with no morals. *shrugs*
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RHP User
16 years ago
actually, there is a foolproof cheating system. It's called the bazza 2000 cheat kit, available from diabolical industry.com.au. The kit itself contains a state of the art rubber bag with the all important penis hole, once inside your practically invisible - the plan is fool proof.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Bren, We do not have the right to make comments or to pass judgment like you have. The only thing we know is that Discrete Lover is not lucky enough to be in a relationship like the rest of us that allows the freedom to pursue our chosen life style. I thought this site allowed all of us to express ourselves free from judgment. Personally I think DL should discuss his needs with his wife and see what happens but we do not know the facts. Your judgmental short sighted comments are not justified. Remember most people [Have you told your parents, family & friends ?] find our life style disgusting !!!!! P & C
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RHP User
16 years ago
Well said Blue_Skies. You managed to convey what I would have liked to have said, but I was momentarily blinded by my passionate reaction to Bren's thoughts. Warm wet hugs Gaz
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RHP User
16 years ago
love the body bag idea with the penis hole !!
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RHP User
16 years ago
You know what is the funniest thing to see is the look on your partners face when they are trying to lie its true no matter how hard you try to cover your tracks you do get caught, even the second mobile didnt work, or the third, by all means cheat if u want but be prepared to loose the lot and remember everytime you lie to your partner you are hurting them so really do you love your partner at all if you can deny, lie and cheat your way through life. My husband or EX I should say cheated on me so many times he got confused with who was who, after finding a few text msgs on his phone thought I would investigate so I rang one girl who he had been seeing saying I was the other girl he was seeing just left a msg for her to ring me said nothing about my husband all I said was " hey April it's Kate call me when you get in" strange thing was that April called my husband straight away and abused him. Why? when the msg had no mention of him so not only was he liying to me but he was lying to his afairs and to this day still lies about everyting even to his friends. Have the guts to end the relationship if your not happy with your choice of partner either way they are going to be hurt, but things might not be so nasty in the end if you dont cheat. Your Life Your Choice
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RHP User
16 years ago
If your cheating then there is no point being with her to be honest. I could not look a girl I was with in the face if I was cheating, maybe I am a bad actor or a bad liar That's just me but so I can't speak on behalf of others, but if it came to the stage where I was desperately looking around then I know there would be something wrong.
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RHP User
16 years ago
meh affairs!! u guys r even lucky 2 be able to hav an affair me on the other hand its hard enough to find a bf! :-( but back to the topic..ther is 1 guy who I dated and i never felt the urge to cheat on him and thats wat its supposed 2 feel liek wen ur with sumone u rlly love...but all my others i hav cheated on and that was bcoz ther was never that spark in the first place
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RHP User
16 years ago
it's best to be up front from the get go there are people out there who like to maintain sexual activity with others - for some it is about conquest or something missing in their lives.... this can be male or female....not just male.... so rather than cheat....think about it first and look for someone whom understands your needs....it can work....
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RHP User
16 years ago
When you really love someone..... you just dont have the desire to cheat on them, all you want to do is be with them.. make them happy... there is a spark that ignites the deepest passion within so lets face it those that cheat dont really like the situation they are in.....and must not have that spark in their relationship....it's so easy to cheat with no guilt attached if its just lust and not love....such is life...time to move on at least I get to start again....and he gave me the most precious gift anyone could give....my Kids...for that I thank him.
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RHP User
16 years ago
open relationships can work yes but both of u need to be that type of person to know its just sex and its hard 2 find someone who is just like u in that way...my ex for example was the jealous type so therefore swinging broke us ...
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RHP User
16 years ago
Lets see where do I start. I was having an affair for 2 years with a woman it all started off innocently enough with a few chats online then a couple of txts then nothing for a few months, then reconnection. I can only say that I was a fool for doing it, now my wife has ended our marriage and I have no one to blame but myself. I could have made different decisions I could have been rational about it all but I wasnt. I feel not just into an affair but deeply in love with my mistress. Let me tell you when this happens all good reason just jumps out of the window, has it destroyed me, absolutely, I have been celebate for 12 months now and only just getting the wher with all to actually start seeing people again. Lets look at the financial costs associated with it for the realists out there. I have lost approximately half a million in assetts and have to start again in a tiny little house that I now have a mortgage on. I lost half of my business which will probably cost me another half a million over the next few years. Now lets look at the emotional costs, I lost the love of a great woman and her trust and respect and that has taken a long time to come to grips with. Now we didnt have a perfect marriage by a long shot but jeez I didnt think about talking to her to work out our problems no not me I just went straight out and stuck my dick in something, dam. Talk to your partner learn from someone whom fucked up really badly and has lost a whole heap that they can never get back. Have I learnt my lessson absolutely. Why am I on here well I guess I have recognised in myself a need for companionship and to be honest I think this is one of the most honest sites out there. Dont fuck around ever it will kill you financially and emotionally it will devastate your kids it will split your friends up and it will leave you lonely. I was a fool learn from my mistakes
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RHP User
16 years ago
So wat made u want to see other women in the first place...were u having problems with ur wife or not satisfied? and wat ended up happening with ur mistress did it not work out 4 u?
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RHP User
16 years ago
HotasIce said "but back to the topic..ther is 1 guy who I dated and i never felt the urge to cheat on him and thats wat its supposed 2 feel like wen ur with sumone u rlly love" Well my sexy friend, what you say is something I agree with to an extent, but if you are married for an extended period, that spark you talk about can dim and glow like summer and winter. Try 25 years of marriage to the same person.. try growing old together....try the pressure of raising children and paying off a mortgage.... and buying a new Triumph motorbike behind her back... I mean, we have a son your age... and for much of our marriage we have both been monogamous... but not always. Not forever. Turns out that a lifetime is a long long time! Sure we can get all huffy and bitter and race off to the courts and get divorced... but why? For the sake of a little bit of sex on the side? I don't think so. The guys my wife chose to root on the side.. hell, I'd like to fuck 'em too. I think the little indiscretions that each of us have indulged are forgiveable, if you have the courage to forgive. Indiscretion is a human trait and forgiving is difficult. We can all talk about a relationship needing communication.. but that seems obvious to me.... It seems to me that any lasting relationship demands lots of forgiveness and compromise. Especially over time as our libidos grow and wane, perhaps out of sync with each other and things get even more complicated when sexualities are divergent. I'm bisexual and the love of my life is straight. There are some pleasures of life that the love of my life cannot provide me and for certain I wouldn't want a life without her in it. So in a moment of weakness at a time when that spark is dimmer than it might be, when opportunity arises and when your frame of mind is such that you might seek something different to get off about... then stuff happens. Worse, you could meet someone else in that moment... someone that you ALSO love. (see surferboy's comments) It doesn't necessarily mean that you're not really in love with your spouse... however you might just be a little out of touch with that emotional connection with your spouse at that critical moment in time. Cheating doesn't have to be the end of a long relationship. I have no reason to justify what I do or don't do to anyone, but as a community of lovers here on RHP, I think it is counter productive to a lovefest for swingers to single out cheaters and rubbarb their morality. Isn't it possible that your depth of experience, tolerance and foregiveness should prevent you from being so dismissive of cheaters? So I say to myself that I will go outside my marriage to fiddle around with guys every now and again... Big mistake! It's such a small step to take when looking for a man to fuck only to discover that your man wants me to root his gf too. *slaps forehead* I mean how unlucky can you get... seriously! I just have to stand there and say... "listen HotasIce, us guys are busy fucking here... you and your two girlfriends can look but please don't touch because I'm married. Man that's a tough gig. I should get a morality medal or something for discretionary indiscretion! Gazza
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RHP User
16 years ago
Discrete Lover, There is nothing worse that finding out that your partner/Wife/lover is having a secret afffair.....Dont do it. U will get caught and the devestation it has on the other party is just not worth it, particulalry if you love them. I know from experience, both being the cheater and being cheated on. One thing is for sure, if i ever settle with another women, there is no way in the world i would cheat on her. If ur partner is not satisifying you sexually talk to eher and be open about it. You might be surprised and find out that she feels the same.....
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RHP User
16 years ago
Tracker68.. How would u feel if u found out ur wife was having an affair???
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hi i dont think we can judge anyone who cheats , we are not in there shoes, everyday... And people that say never would cheat , never is a very long time.... When i got married i said this is it no one else ever, well we are in a open marriage now and thats because i needed to be, and i said never would cheat or be with anyone else....Things change people grow and sometimes not together, am not saying cheating is ok but we all have needs.....
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RHP User
16 years ago
The sad truth of the matter was that I was having pretty brilliant sex at home but got greedy, I broke it off with my mistress because I had totally fucked up everything and she was a victim to my excess. I wont kid you the wife and I had our problems the frequency of the sex was pretty bad and to be honest it turned into the same old same old all the time. Got to the point where I dreaded going to bed cause I knew what would happen. She wasnt enjoying the sex either which made it worse. This however, is all my fault, I didnt talk to her I didnt try to make things better I fucked around instead and its something that will haunt me for the rest of my life. It kinda feels good to be able to just write this stuff down and maybe just maybe not be judged for my past actions. Im not asking for pity and I imagine in some cases people will look at my story and just say the fucker got what he deserved, and maybe they are right, but if my story changes someone just a little then its a good thing I think and Im happy if that happens. Unfortunately in most cases when people have made up there mind to have an affair thats exactly what they will do.
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RHP User
16 years ago
that is all true I guess I can't rlly state my opinion then as I hav not been married but wen I do marry my partner will hav 2 be mature and understanding...ther are so many different circumstances to cheating anywayz so no one can really judge someone for it...it can mean alot of things like ther sex isnt good...ther partner is not deviant enough 4 them..etc In the mean time I can sit here and complain that all the sex I hav been getting lateli is fkn shit coz the spark is missing or they hav crap cocks lol so atm I envy married women :-) at least they got ther husbands 2 fall back on hehe
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RHP User
16 years ago
do you believe in Karma???? what goes around comes around, and now you can't even find a BF!
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RHP User
16 years ago
why is this even debate, dont cheat.... whether your dating or married.... if your thinking about.. you dont wanna turn into the person it will make you. no matter if it " only happened once" or "never happen again" your still untrustworthy, and have no respect for others or yourself.
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RHP User
16 years ago
dont fukin cheat. end of story. Shouldnt need to anyway.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Amber-Lee - well said & so true!!!!! If you don't have that respect for your partner, why stay with them? You're only hurting them & yourself.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Cheating is giving love to another.....some lustful sex is just spending time with another....no different to going to the footy with your mates without her, or her going out with her friends without you, sex is an activity.....love is a deep emotion.....
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RHP User
16 years ago
That is the Question ! .. I think ..... DO communicate ; Don't do it ... & if u wanna do it .. Look at a couple of the on subject answers above .. Buyer Beware . Be upfront , have sum fun in life , live a little .
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RHP User
16 years ago
Why in the world would anyone cheat on someone they love ............................... when they get caught and like most people have said they will , the trust is gone and a relationship is bulit on trust!!! If you cheat on someone clearly for you to do that you do not love the person you are with. so you should not be with that person. So get the hell out of an unhappy relationship before you cheat, I would be sure your partner would be less hurt by a break up than a forced break up by cheating. I have never had any man cheat on me, I know how to keep a man happy and give them my all.
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RHP User
16 years ago
This is the best one ive read in ages. As I am a person who has been on both sides of the fence. Of course the men arnt going to come out on here and say im cheating that would take all the fun out of it, and of course they dont want to get caught. You just cant judge if your not in there shoes. This guy might be the best husband in the world but is he getting any thing in return or being taken for granted. Most women will understand that feeling , and we just look for someone who will appreciate the little extras they get. Now to answer your question YOU will get caught because One day you will come home with a smell of perfume on you , and you will leave your phone lying around for 1 minute thats all it takes and you will join a club of some kind to get you out SES is a good one call outs all the time lol and you will slip up on the credit card and one day the wrong name will flow from your lips and if thats not enough some one will see you hiding in the corner of the coffee shop or dark cinima. Or on the bright side she will fall in love with you and dob you in or you will fall in love with her and leave your wife before you checked with your lover if she wants you on a full time basis and guess what she didnt odear now what . The memories are all rushing back Well I hoped this helped a little .
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RHP User
16 years ago
Do's:-Do make sure your keeping tabs of your partner whilst your out on your fling with your 'lover' as not to be in the same place at the same time-Do make sure to have a solid alibi and witnesses, should 'shit' hit the fan-Do make sure your still showering your partner some attention but not too much that your smothering her to a point that will raise suspicion-Do have the balls to own up, the moment that you are busted, and have your reasons outlined of the why's and how's of your infidelity before they get a word in(this will usually make out that it was already planned giving them the effect that it was their fault that lead to the way you are)Ultimate do: To those who are married with young children, do make sure you are financially covered as most likely, should you get busted and divorce is ensued, the money you saved for that boat you were gonna buy for that overseas trip you were going to sail in, will now be used to pay for the expensive divorce case which will end up with you losing half(or more) plus child welfare...Don't:-Don't be overconfident just because you got away with it the first time-Don't brag about it to friends(as usually one of those friends will want a piece of your partner to a point that they will now have something against you)-Don't juggle more then 1 lover at a time(only clowns know how to juggle)-Don't think your the only one having an affair, chances are, if relations are rock bottom that its lead you to cheat, most likely, if they're smart(which is probably one of the reasons your with them), they'd have beat you to the punchnote: to the ppl who are reading this and judging me already for what i've written, just before you lay comment, I'm a single guy who's never married, and has never had to cheat. I've posted coz it looked fun, and its what i'd do should i ever resort to cheating.
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RHP User
16 years ago
There is no excuse for cheating. Say that the other woman/man didn't mean anything and it was only sex; just not good enough. If you love someone you try and resolve the issues; not I love my partner but we do not have the same sex drive. Cheating not only destroys your financial status; think of the other major destruction of how cheating affectes your partner, your children. The people that matter to you the most, the innocent people would be the ones that are hurt the most because of your selfish gutless act. Yes the adrenalin might be good for a while; a younger person more exciting then what try someone else. Once a cheat always a cheat. And as for both parties straying well it is not really a marriage, you are just 'tenants in common' (just living under the same roof). We are all adults and responsible for our actions, just think before you do is it really worth it? Put yourself in your partner's shoes; would you like to be cheated on? Could you accept it??????? My views and comments are based on my own personal experience, two years on I am still trying to pick up the pieces left behind by my ex's destruction of a very long marriage due his selfish brief fling with a younger woman. Just think before you act!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Good question stimulated lots of opinion, but to get back to the question......... Best advice I can give you is to give your wife, girlfriend, mistress and any lovers all the same pet name! That way when you are in the throes of passion you won't call out the wrong name! I call all of mine Fred it works a treat..... As to the rest of the discussions / comments perhaps we should take a leaf out of the book of the Europeans where an affair is the norm and not the taboo that it appears to be here: I recall discussing with an elderly European friend, (country of origin witheld for fear or reprisals) about his divorce, he recounted how when things started to go wrong with the marraige he went to his mother. Upon hearing the sad tale what did his even more elderly European mother advise him................ "don't get a divorce son, just have an affair like everybody else" ............a wise old woman????
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RHP User
16 years ago
my hubby cheated..... and i found out...... It was the most hurtfull feeling......so before you do it think of your partner first..... how you would feel if it was the other way around....if you have kids dont think they wont get hurt..... because they do. talk to your partner and try new things.... It just might help but the decision is yours to make ...I hope you make the right one
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RHP User
16 years ago
cheating is rarely just about sex.Its about disrespect, dishonesty, and selfishness.If you love the person youre with....dont cheat.If you dont love them....leave.I know its not always that cut and dried...but if you have the respect and the honesty there to start with...just about anything can be overcome with discussion and compromise.You never know...your partner may want to play around too...how would you feel if you found out they were???Just my opinion....BJxxx
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RHP User
16 years ago
Do unto others as you would be happy to have done unto you!Open up the relationship for casual sex for both parties and see whose libido is low then.Absolutely OK to have an open or swinging relationship if both parties are respectfully offered the same opportunity. If a bit on the side really is harmless you will be happy to tell your partner about how great it is ,and how you would like them to enjoy the same fun with others that you are enjoying! Sign them up here as well by all means .If it was so easy and harmless there would be no need to hide anything, it would be the accepted norm between you.If it was ok you would hook up elsewhere with the loved ones blessing. Truth is , once you take your essence and energy out of the relationship and give it out elsewhere , you have less to give your partner, and you erode the relationship. A relationship is an energetic system and energy in = energy out. A major drain on the battery has only one end result. Work it out.No one really cares if you cheat , or dont, if its moral or not, but its not fun to see someone on a crash course with disaster . And thats your partner Im talking about..The up side is maybe an affair teaches how to better please a partner , care about them , add excitement and intrigue and be the lover they long for and need??? Let us know how it ends.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Interesting comments. Iv been married & divorced but not threw cheating. Had girlfriends cheat & iv cheated on girlfriends & its not worth all the hurt it causes & you will get caught. Iv learned alot & i wont be in a relationship if im going to cheat so now i want someone honest enough to share all of our thoughts good & bad with. I dont want any secrets & im openminded enough to have a partner we can explore & search for things together. If i felt the need to fuck someone else i want my partner to help find a girl & both fuck her & i would do the same with her no cheating no deceat no wondering what went on. Doing it behind there back is wrong & ill bet the people doing it would be devostated if they found out it was happening to them. Treat people/partners the way you want them to treat you & no body likes to be cheated on do they ? To all the people cheating i hope ya get caught.
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RHP User
16 years ago
A true story....Date 9/11 2001 (USA notation.)W. My darling are you OK? Are you all OK?H. Yes dearest, of course why wouldn't I be?W. Well, where are you then?H. I'm in my office at the WTC of course, where else would I be? Why do you ask?SO BUSTED!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Actually, unless your in the situation yourself (and I haven't checked, cant be bothered!) its probably best to keep those sort of comments to yourself!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Well said, agree completely..
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'gazpacho41'I'm serious... Buy the motorbike.. that's your ticket out of the house... and join a rider's club... lol... and actually go on some rides. OK.. now here's the rub... you set some rules initially like.. I just wanna shag people... some anonymous sex.. you know.. exchange no names... no details.... stuff like that.. meet for one offs in darkened sleazy places..... and then you meet someone you really connect with. It's completely accidental.. it's random co-incidence... but you really connect... and then you exchange phone numbers.. then you talk about stuff.. your personal life.... all the things you have in common... you exchange baby photos and personal secrets.... you fall in love. You've been completely honest with the fuck about your relationship status.... but the fuck deserves more from you than you can give... and loves you enough not to want to see you hurt.... so remains descrete for your sake.... all the sneaking about.. the lame excuses you use .... the protection of your mobile phone from your partner ... you automatically delete every text message ... it's a complicated existence and you will get caught, eventually. You will fall in love with someone else and that's when your real problems begin. We are all capable of loving more than one person at a time... and once you are doing that.... it seems natural to you... but other people dont understand... and you will feel like a criminal, but all you need is a good defence. (Great song) :) Gaz yeh dude ..... im hearing ya ..... i am going to buy that bike .... you've just saved a whole lot of shit... cheers.
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RHP User
16 years ago
I can't find the URL right now, but out there is a guy who's got a blog on how to do this without getting caught. If you're considering having an affair, some of his advice is: - stay away from single guys/girls: only have affairs with other married/attached people (they've got as much to lose as you do, and they're also less likely to get all psychotic and stalk you); - get a separate SIM card and use that for your affairs; - never program their phone number in, memorise it instead; - never bring them to your place, always use a hotel/motel (or their place if they don't follow the same rules, I guess)I'll have to see if I can find the blog, but apparently this guy's been doing things like this for years and not been caught. Yet. :-PCheers :-)
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RHP User
16 years ago
RHP is the forum or venue for this very thing to occur. Check out a few profiles or Activities promoted for Swingers clubs and the like. The question here is not wheather or not it should happen, but rather wheather or not his wife should know. We do not have the facts to answer this question ... so all I can suggest is to tread carefully and risk nothing that you can not afford to lose.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Mrs Salandy here, We get stumped everytime someone asks 'How long have you been together?' We look at each other thinking hmmmm...officially or unofficially? I don't like to admit our relationship began as an affair, I have my reasons for what I did but at the same time I can not justify it. We have hurt people dear to us, lost friends and alienated family, all the tricks in the book wont guarantee your secret stays safe... People are going to continue to have affairs no matter what, they are not new, I hope that if you are in an affair you spare a thought for the person you are hurting, if you get away with it, it does not make you clever, just lucky. I have been cheated on and done the cheating...
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RHP User
16 years ago
I just want to point out that this isnt a guy only thing. there arent as many im sure but there are plenty of cheating women on here too. they dont seem to cop half the shit cheating males get. just my 5 cents worth. (only cos we dont have 2c anymore)
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RHP User
16 years ago
Oh and make sure you wear condoms be nothing worse than bringing home skanky cooties to the wife..Because not only will you have skanky cooties but no family...
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RHP User
16 years ago
I was devasted when my wfie told me had a one night stand. We had been together for seven years, got married and about 4 years in, she had a one night stand with a friend of ours. She didn't tell me for many months, even with our 'friend' still visiting, and I believe that was the worst betrayal. There was no reason for her to stray. I thought we had been open about everything, even 15 years later I don't trust her. It's hard to forgive, I just had a life of easy convenience - and too busy making money and building assets to reflect on her actions; but with us there was no real spark anymore. Will I find find someone else that I can trust completely? Who knows. Short answer, let your partner know what you're thinking (and doing or planning) they may not be happy, but it won't be as crushing. My 2c worth.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Good on you Gazza, I think you sum up the situation for quite a few of us. As concerning a long lasting relationship, your observations of out of sync libidos is pertinent. My partner and I have forgiven each other for past indiscretions and still value our relationship greatly.For many the ability to forgive or comprimise is a trait will not be mastered in this life. The world is only black and white to the colour-blind.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Some years ago I was in a defacto relationship with a very nice lady, which after some 3 years I realised was a mistake. The lady in question was not that interested in sex and I was no longer excited by her. Other than that we had a good relationship which had really mutated into a platonic one. However sex was very important to me and I was frustrated by the lack of spark between us. I ventured into a very hot steamy affair with a female work colleague and the sex was absolutely dynamite very exciting and filled with surreptitious assignations. This went on for about three months but as neally always happens I was caught out. Women have a sixth sense about these things and when I was confronted there were many tears and much hurt involved. I was trying to have my cake and eat it too, but I was also trying not to cause my de-facto any pain by breaking up as I knew she was very fond of me, and I was too much of a coward to tell her how I really felt. By my act of betrayal I caused her far more pain then I ever could by simply calling it day. To this day I regret hurting this lady, she did not deserve to be cheated on and I have never forgiven myself for acting so selfishly. We off course broke up as a result of my poor choices. She has since forgiven me and we remain friends, however sometimes the hurt she still harbours sometimes bubbles to the surface and I realise that the damage cased by such actions is permanent. Although it was all very exciting at the time I now regret very much what I did and If I could turn back time I would have ended the defacto relationship and then sought out another lover or partner. The affair didn't last much longer either. That disintergrated soon after. Take what you will from my story, but I think it would be a typical scenario played out all around the world with no winners. happy choioces!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'spaz81'if you arent happy at home .... END it and find someone that is willing to forfil you and/or share.... simple not rocket science ...... its ppl like you that make me STAY single its that attitude is why your single spazare you aware you can still love someone even if the sex aint that good but dont worry spaz you will mature with age - poor girl :)
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RHP User
16 years ago
Ok well all feelings and comments aside. You do use another phone. Dont be tempted to hang on to trophy photos no matter how much you cherish them. Delete.delete,delete. Don't change your routine in any way. Don't be tempted to buy new clothes or underwear.Take ur shirt, clothes ect off before you kiss ur other lover, Shower and reapply your everyday aftershave. Take any new aftershave to work and put it on there before and after. DONT stop having sex with or asking for sex with your wife, Don't tell a mate no matter how tempting. Find a girl that respects ur discretion and is is willing to defend her's also. And rule number 1. Don't fall in love. Good Luck and Enjoy!
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RHP User
16 years ago
phone ettiquette has time limits with me. no calls after a time at night and none in mornings till after 9. keep it to emails.. yes to another mbl ph certainly helps keep things in check as long as u charge it at work and not at home in full site and keep it on silent when home and not alone. very discrete if at partners house. park the car a few doors down and obviously make sure neighbours arnt around or pretend to be a salesman or avon lady lol. but u really have to trust ur side bits for everything to work smoothly. clean off ur msg logs on msn . and ur ph msgs just incase
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RHP User
16 years ago
Think about every place every actionYou can decrease the odds but not eliminate them.
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RHP User
16 years ago
My sex life was shitful so my wife & I sat down & talked it over she said she did not have the time or the energy to fully enjoy the amount & variety of sex I wanted & said I should look elseware but didnt want to know anything about it as in where when or with who but I am still a bit worried if she did find out & crack the shits it would not be nice but I will see how I get on
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RHP User
16 years ago
well i was the young wife once that this happened to.....u can talk about it all u want....but its just a shit thing to do to someoneif a fuck means destroying the heart of another person just own up to your problemsand get the fuck away from them.....im not a judgemental prude but come on....why lie to urself anyway if u want an open relationship go and get no offence relaxedsouth xx
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RHP User
16 years ago
I cheated on my ex-wife for six years before we ended our marriage, she didn't want to sleep with me anyway so I don't see what the big deal is, she still had a nice home and our kids were happy. Anyway it has mostly ended up for the better. Remember two things historically and in a lot of other cultures it is quite acceptable for a man to have a mistress and secondly marriage was invented when we only lived to about 35 years old so it wasn't designed to last 30 40 50 years.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hi DL You asked the question "why does everyone say you'll get caught?"... I see remarkable resembance to your approach to my that of my infant child and my teenager Son's.... One of "well it couldn't happen to me" Vs - well lets be wise and learn by other mistakes. We all have the right to do what we want, but there is always cause and effect. Fundamentally everyone has a consience and fight it until their undoing. Sadly their self centred disrespect for themselves impacts those around them with heavy consequences. Honesty is an option & maturity to look at the cause for your intent is also an option. Courage Vs immediate gratification cn work better that making yourself feel better at the expense of others. Our actions also mirror our sense of self. I love the expression "Hurt people hurt other people"
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RHP User
16 years ago
But what if the husband/partner is not getting any at home because his or her partner is not interested in physical sex due to medical reasons? He loves her too much to cause her pain by discussing it with her, refuses to get into a fee for service situation, and yet has not had sex or any physical intimacy with another woman for more than 2 years now. Does this "justify the cheating"? This is a shade of grey....... Bahggs
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RHP User
16 years ago
Bahggs, you don't need any consent from these self appointed Morality Police to do what you are going to do. You will need to accept that there is potential for it to end badly because you will get caught, eventually. Let's hope you can handle that as gracefully as possible when it happens. Cheers Gazza
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RHP User
16 years ago
This lifestyle has no room for affairs, why would be bother......Affairs are destructive and hurtful and leave the person that was cheated on feeling sad and lonely and very insecure for a very long time. Who would want to do that to someone....NOT ME....If you are not happy do the right thing and leave that person...how dare you keep on lying to someone that cares for you and you dont for them.Just my opinion.......and one that i am very strong about...Leesa
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RHP User
16 years ago
im Married and Came across a Yahoo chat between My wife and friend which got pretty hot, Suggesting booking into a hotel under an alias.Then he said he couldnt wait to stick his big fat cock inside her, which she responded "hehe". I approached her about it, she denied seeing it at first then later after i broke down at work,which is fly in /fly out. On a phone told the what happened that it was stupid chattin between him , her friend and herself. It was the fact that it hurt me as we had been fighting a lot previously, i agreed that I needed to change and got some help to make me happy, though a self happiness coach.This was in August.Today Ive discovered that she has been on this fuckin web site , so now ive joined to find out why,Ive approached again about this she replied a friend told herto have a laugh at the discussion boards. Funny enough she rides a Triumph daytona gold special and goes on rides, cruises while im away around Perth if any ones in the know, she also has been twice to Phillip island. Revenge is sweet im going to Bangkok With a mate for a week dont know what might happen she is so cool with it, so this pisses me off more.Like guilt or something, make her feel better etc,I want to be happy but just dont know I think im fuckin my own brain up seriously concerned.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Sportsbiker2000. Mate. Lots of us around here have been in exactly the situation you are talking about. For some of us it means the beginning of the end of a relationship and for others of us, well we accept that it can get that way in a lifetime together and move forward, a little worse for the wear, but none the less, still together because we are in love and something like a bit of meaningless sexual excitement on the side doesnt have to mean the end. Have a discussion with her about this stuff. In my mind, "revenge" is really no answer... and you won't feel any better for it, I can assure you. You've obviously already decided that you feel cheated, no matter what she has done or not done. From experience I can tell you that you need to make some decisions... do you want to make it work out that you stay together no matter what, or do you feel so soured by your feelings of being cheated that you can't stand to hang around..... think that through before you react. I've got a trumpy street triple r.. .great bike... what do you ride? Hugs Gaz
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RHP User
16 years ago
Pick her up in a garbage truck... the husband will never suspect the garbo.
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stardreams123
16 years ago
Why is this even being discussed? If you can't find someone that is single well. All I can say is either you are going to get caught or they will or both at the same time, every one does in the end & people get hurt especially children if there are any in the relationship. I realise you can't help who you fall for sometimes but if your in a relationship end it first at least do the right thing by your partner...
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RHP User
16 years ago
Leave her , dont put her through that.How dare people be so selfish as to cheat.It ruins the other persons self assurance and insecurities for the rest of their lives.They feel they are worthless as you cheated on them.Leave the person first and then have your fun. Leesa
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RHP User
16 years ago
How would you feel to find out your parnter has been having an affair? It's devastating!!! Don't do it. Be a man. Get to the root of the reasons why you're considering discuss them with your partner or get counselling. Either way it'll work out for the better.
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