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Would you date a guy who's been to a Brothel?
September 16 2018
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RHP User
7 years ago
And the past helps to define and shape the individual you are now. What they did before they met their current partner should not be held against them. - Posted from rhpmobile
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FeistyFatty
7 years ago
Not a deal breaker, not even something I'd bat an eyelid at to be honest. Living in Cairns you're actually more reticent about having sexual interactions with backpackers as its common knowledge how few vigilantly practice safe sex. Sex workers are uber health conscious. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I think all men could do with visiting an establishment. I also think they should be legalised. Its fucked up how its not and just enforces sex as a bad thing not a GREAT thing. The trouble is in my view, is keeping brothels illegal it keeps sex taboo to a degree. Which is terrible. Its as tho if you have sex with a hooker you will get a moral spanking from up there (for the religious ones) I really can not comprehend it. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
.. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
All women ARE dating men that have and will go to them.... - Posted from rhpmobile
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FeistyFatty
7 years ago
What a load of crap. - Posted from rhpmobile
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nightingale8
7 years ago
It means... They're desperate They use women They're morally tainted...forever! They must be diseased If you sleep with them then you are as "low" as a prostitute These are ridiculous assumptions to be making and when questioned have no justifiable basis. I wonder, did any of these women present a persuasive argument as to why not? - Posted from rhpmobile
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Supernova
7 years ago
I've only been to a brothel once (Daily planet in Elsternwick, awesome place!) and it was mainly for the experience of it all. Was about 5-6 years ago and a couple of mates of mine where out on the town in st.kilda, all single, looking for some lovely ladies, and we decided, if things didn't "go to plan" so to speak, that we would go try out the DP. It was actually my idea, as I'd heard it was a really classy, elegant, and clean environment from another friend of mine who recently tried it out...my friends were a bit hesitant with the idea, as they said "No man! I don't want / need to PAY for sex!" It was clearly a bit of a hit to their ego. My response was: "Guys! We aren't going because we are desperate losers who NEED to pay for sex, lets go because we are grown young men who have NEVER set foot in a brothel before...let's just go for the experience, to check it out, see what it's like. Apparently it's a really classy place, with great girls...and sex is virtually a gaurantee (wink wink nudge nudge)" So, eventually they agreed, and off we went! And what a great place it was! It was expensive, sure, but that's what you'd expect from a place like this, and it was awesome in there...like a playground for boys: Beautiful ladies everywhere looking absolutely stunning, Pool tables, daytona USA, point blanc, and a bar(no alcohol for obvious reasons though!) We all had our pre-paid "dockets" that we could use to book a girl we liked. To my surprise, all the girls in there were just everyday, typical young females. Most were Uni students, using this job as a way to set themselves up for life, or pay off student debts, and they were all blood and urine tested once a fortnight in order to be able to work there, so it was reassuring that it was a clean and hygienic environment. But I digress, sorry! In true response to the OP, most guys have at least *tried* the brothel experience, and yeah, it would be silly to suggest that only the dregs of society, or perverted weird men use these facilities...Sometimes I'm tempted to go back, the girls in there were beautiful, kind, real and clean. 5 stars to the Daily planet haha
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RHP User
7 years ago
Often times I wonder who really "USE" who? Sex or companionship for a reward. Who USE who? Or is it a symbiotic relationship. Kindah like a shark and a remora fish tagging along. No one "USES" no one.
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ocean_man
7 years ago
Quoting 'Santouche' All women ARE dating men that have and will go to them.... - Posted from rhpmobile Just because you and everybody in your circle of friends go to brothels..... doesn't mean all men go to brothels
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RHP User
7 years ago
“All women ARE dating men that have and will go to them.... “ Uhm, what? I am the male half. I have never been and will never go to a brothel. Men I know who does this are those who can’t communicate with women to keep a functioning relationship, either because they are too lazy or they think by default being a male makes them entitled to women’s body. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
There’s just as many sluts in here, male and female. I don’t see a brothel as any different. At least it’s an agreed transaction, and the terms and rules are mandatory. How many people have you met that are after an ongoing FWB but then ghost 👻 How many partners promise they’ll be safe with everyone else but you, then they’re not? Personally I would prefer if more men went to a brothel as opposed to bullshitting and using girls as useless fucks to dump and run 🏃♀️ - Posted from rhpmobile
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FeistyFatty
7 years ago
"Men I know who does this are those who can’t communicate with women to keep a functioning relationship, either because they are too lazy or they think by default being a male makes them entitled to women’s body" You are joking arent you??? Way to completely show your utmost ignorance..... same as the women in the OPs original statement...... irony much???? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Loved reading your comment, very good points and much classier than trying your luck. Sounds like a great night out. I wish there were brothels for women. Hmmm 💡🤔 time to google. My friendadversary is coming up and we’ve heard you can hire a male sex slave for the night to make drinks, massage and..... Hmmmm Mind is ticking....,. Gotta go lol 😝 (Or would that be a deal breaker in the future?) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Lionsdoll and supernova...great responses! Lionsdoll if it were legal I'd be the Madam of a male brothel tomorrow! Lol I wouldn't judge a guy based on this. If he told me about it, I'd respect him for his honesty and sense of adventure. As others have said it's a lot safer than some random you've picked up drunk. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
From their perspective, it was sex without intamacy or connection. Apparently, men who seek sex without intamacy aren't capible of forming real relationships. I believe what they're saying is bullcrap. They should learn that a man in their 20s is not the same man in their 40s.
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countrytouch82
7 years ago
The following reflects the OP's post and similar views on "immorality" that I have come across from a lifetime of dating attempts: So... the ultimate "pure" woman looking for her ultimate "pure" man, must ask this and other questions of a potential male "date": Have you ever been to a brothel, or seen an escort, or have you ever considered, or might consider in any circumstance? Do you watch, or have watched, or might watch, porn, or ever bought or read an adult or men's magazine? Have you ever had casual sex or been with someone not as a pure, committed, monogamous loving relationship? Have you found Jesus? (Okay maybe not that one haha) The point is, how pure of sin do you need to be to match some people's standards? Such person will find it difficult to find such man at least, and probably will be also happy to then characterise all men as vile, immoral creatures. And the man that she finds that is apparently of such purity, is probably a liar anyway, just saying what she wants to hear :P I was going to suggest finding said man in the church, but maybe not the best there either... :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Hi. Gee how interesting and very eye opening, and what would I know , still learning. !959 Christchurch NZ Rutherford street no 7 from memory up near the end of our street we were no 29. we had a brothel and yes the Military guys from the US used to come and on a Friday we knew what was going on I was aged 13 1/2 about . years later I had heard of a few others around. In Timaru 1/2 hour north of us we had one there so about 9 years ago I went to see what it was like there I meet the lady at the counter and had a talk with her and the Boss lady I was interested in learning about people andhow they thought about sexual detail there was two bouncers who I said hi to said hi to 3 working women and that was it , in Ch Ch = Christchurch I went into see the prostutes collective and talked with them as well and how things were, I had people I knew down south in Dunedin at a working house and had a long talk by phone to the women there, you maybe or not be surprised I know many 1000,s of people in all walks of life, and I get on pretty well with most , so you can take it as being true I may not be the sexy hot chic. and not really all that sexy and into it . and have little idear concerning sex.. at least I,m well versed in knowing people and not bothered where I have been or go. and I have never stopped talking and finding out about detail and things people do or get up to I may not join in and inclined to stand back and maybe just watch , My experance may not be of joining in and does that have to matter, at least I,m not judging others . ...noeleena...
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RHP User
7 years ago
OP these women are just not evolved as youve already surmised. Intimacy comes in many forms and who says a man can't get that in a brothel? I can see why some women may think a guy fears commitment, if he only gets his intimacy at brothels, but if they assume or judge someone that way, they're likely never to give a relationship the opportunity for commitment. Too many women have lists of what a man must be and most just seems to be bitter about not finding this non-existent perfect man. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
seriously who cares, I'm not interested in a virgin, so any man I sleep with has had past partners it doesn't make any difference to me who that person was or if he paid for it or not
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RHP User
7 years ago
If someone is so judgemental, why they would even be on RHP ???
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RHP User
7 years ago
Fat' 'feisty. Oceanman. Satyr... Drop the virtue signalling... Haha and relax. Take a joke (not a joke) - Posted from rhpmobile
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Those that "have in the past" utilized brothels are full of themselves. Plenty of women even technically prostitute themselves in sugar relationships. Or even normal relationships where they only take up with guys that can keep them in the standard they are accustomed. I used a brothel for my first vagina experience to see what all the fuss was about and suss out the competition. A positive experience too, 2 of us and 2 girls. Group sex first up. Here l am eons later still doing the group sex thing. So those judging the guys for it, open your mind or maybe you dont be long here
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RHP User
7 years ago
“You are joking arent you??? Way to completely show your utmost ignorance..... same as the women in the OPs original statement...... irony much????” What the hell? I will ignore your personal attack as I believe you jumped the boat and in your moment of rage you missed the whole point. I did not say “all men”, I am talking about people known to me personally. Maybe read comments with a clear mind? Why are you so angry anyway? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Not a deal breaker for me. Lol, if anything I'd consider trying it one day, with or without a partner.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Dont kid yourselves We all pay for sex Some pay with money Some pay emotionally In many circumstances, the guys who pay with cash are so far ahead of the pack. No emotional baggage to deal with.
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RHP User
7 years ago
My former husband use to go and l accepted that, what l didn't accept was the comparison's which he threw back into my face! He had a bi-polar condition and found fault with everyone and everything, eventually also finding fault with the ladies in the brothel too. He is no longer in my life, l moved on when l realised it wasn't my fault, however l have still retained nightmares from that time in my life! Always questioning if l am good enough...luckily l don't have doubts about my sex appeal, too often anymore! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
So OP full disclaimer I work part time in a escort agency when I am in Melbourne (see the recent Escort thread by Red Mustang) Just recently I financially invested in the agency so it would be fair to say that my opinion would be viewed by some as bias, its not, but we read and interpret what suits us So to answer your question is it a deal breaker for me personally ?, absolutely not and in fact to be honest, I wish a few lovers of my past had been to a brothel and learnt a trick or two. I'm all for it As Supernova said, clean, hygienic, classy, respectable, safe (more so than swinging) Fuck me I just agreed with Super ! As Red Mustang pointed out, quite simply is that we all have a past, and if you paid for your past (or future) sexual experiences, then quite frankly that's your own damn business and no one else's. How you spend your money and who you have sex with , is for you only and if one cant see that, then that person is simply not for you The lady who said "No never" to you , yeah well of course she is entitled to have her standards and I hope she sticks to them but you know a little bit of a naïve outlook because MANY men uses the services of prostitutes either in a brothel or a escort Santouche to a very small degree is somewhat right, although his wording was somewhat questionable Many men with various circumstances uses the services of a prostitute for many reasons and yes there are men that don't Yay to both parties. Its legal (in most states) so what if people pay? Like who cares ? You pay to uses the services of your mechanic, doctor, dentist, hair dresser, personal trainer, nail artist, for all the services they render so why not for sex ? The only shame is in the ones that ridicule those who do and those who are sanctimonious in the fact that they believe they wont ever pay for sex, yeah righto, more power to you Who uses prostitutes ? what kind of person ? Well when sitting on the train tomorrow look around, those people (and yes women use the services of sex workers as well) Normal people who have their own personal reasons for paying for sex and as stated in the Escort thread, 70-80 percent of our clientele are partnered and not getting their sexual needs met for many reasons Normal people includes those who are: PartneredSingle CuriousSeeking a new experience companionshipsUncomplicated liaisonsSexually frustrated (our most common "complaint")CompanionshipExplore a Kink etc etc etc These people are not necessarily physically unattractive by shallow social standards but yes they MAY have physical disabilities that would not be accepted by many We have clients with terminal illnesses, wheelchair bound, skin diseases that would turn others off, social introverts, those with physical issues with tie genitals , the list goes on. Are these people allowed to have their sexual needs fulfilled too ? Is that ok ? Look, I could write a thesis on this subject, but again I come back to your friend who said No never, guess what chances are she already has been with one who has been with a prostitute and trust me this is not male dominated are, females use sex services as well And Satyr your comment which I think Feisty was picking up on was your uneducated sweeping general statement on being that men that visit brothels are ones that cant communicate with women and too lazy to keep a relationships going Yeah Nah what a disappointing statement made from a place of naivety and lack of knowledge My own personal experience of entitlement to my body has come from when I've been swinging where a guys single or coupled who think because they have paid their fee they are entitled to me and my assets . Not all, but many and that's been my experience in the swing scene, hence why I no longer swing as a single In closing the jaded and cynical of us may think we all pay for sex, in one way or another
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RHP User
7 years ago
Snap
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RHP User
7 years ago
I’m pretty Damb sure RHP is not short of men who seek sex without intimacy because they’re afraid of relationships. It has absolutely nothing to do with using a brothel. In fact, I imagine men that frequent an establishment are more likely to be respectful of woman and would pay as opposed to playing games and leading women on. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'The_Envoy' Dont kid yourselves We all pay for sex Some pay with money Some pay emotionally In many circumstances, the guys who pay with cash are so far ahead of the pack. No emotional baggage to deal with. I think that was the point San Touche was making, but I think he made it poorly.
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'SatyrandNymph' “All women ARE dating men that have and will go to them.... “ Uhm, what? I am the male half. I have never been and will never go to a brothel. Men I know who does this are those who can’t communicate with women to keep a functioning relationship, either because they are too lazy or they think by default being a male makes them entitled to women’s body. That may have been your experience of men who have paid for sex. My experience was one of dire insecurity and total lack of confidence with women, and being damn sick of it. People who pay for sex do so for various reasons, some of which are shallow like you mentioned - I think most do so though for more legitimate reasons. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Okey Very true I love your honesty
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MsSuperFoxy
7 years ago
Nothing to be ashamed about. As long as I was told about it in an open discussion then find out from someone else. I respect people more for that, then going to a brothel. I have more an issue if they deliberately deceived me or denied. Ms Foxy
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Freaky_Fun
7 years ago
I can think of other things to get my knickers in a twist over. Pip just between you and me I've been crushing on Okey for ages 😜
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RHP User
7 years ago
Crushing on you 😉 I thoroughly enjoyed reading your response. It was interesting to hear from your informed perspective, and you’ve shed some light to people who may not have such an open mind. I guess it can be linkened to the swinging scene in some respects. Didn’t see it that way. Thank you for sharing xx - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
It is definitely better than being a wanker all your life hahaha and sometimes the sex is good - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Some women who get indignant about it will sleep with lots of guys for nothing and think they are better than those who accept payment for it. Its a pity they dont have male brothels, many very busy women would probably be glad of such a service.
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RHP User
7 years ago
“And Satyr your comment which I think Feisty was picking up on was your uneducated sweeping general statement on being that men that visit brothels are ones that cant communicate with women and too lazy to keep a relationships going. Yeah Nah what a disappointing statement made from a place of naivety and lack of knowledge.” If you are going to type a response that long, you should read relevant comment carefully, I was talking about particular people, not everyone. I am sure I didn’t type in Sumerian. It was English. - Posted from rhpmobile
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MissRedFox
7 years ago
I think the question should be Would you date a man you KNOW has been to a brothel Because I'm sure a few probably unknowingly are - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
We are all judgemental about the things we care about. What are you asking here is - ” Why do they care about things I don‘t care about?” If it's something that happened when you were younger and out of curiosity or need, I wouldn't mind. Not all men go to prostitutes and not all women expect anything in return. (Ms)
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RHP User
7 years ago
Yes. Bloody fool. In fact its annoying sexual services arent easier and cheaper for women to access. I encourage and support the use of brothels. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Who cares if someone’s been to a brothel , the girls are probably cleaner than picking one up off the street😂, if I had a choice of a guy that’s paid for one in his past or one that would fuck a dead rat up a drainpipe , I know which one my money’s on lol - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
lots of judgement....what a topic though....provocative...made us think of the novel 11 minutes by Paulo Coehlo, the average time taken for a man to get there apparently...surely not how most men would choose to be defined...this is a personal choice for adults ...like any other social mechanism shouldn't be abused to support addiction or under age abuse or crime but self determination includes surely what you lawfully do with your sexual self...personally, would take the fun out for us as the unforgettable scene from the novel the unbearable lightness of being of the sex workers with universally blank dead faces would persist, whether accurate or not, and again without judgement, voluntary sharing we feel is nicer when unambiguously voluntary not mixed up with economic survival. One of the saddest things we ever read was that men often, apparently, around the 11 minute mark, declare their love for the sex worker. In any event its not a basis for judging and definitely not for dismissing others out of hand.
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Aristippusx2
7 years ago
As one who grew up in the town famous for its brothels, most of the male population utilized the services and because of the standards enforced ie condoms ,it appeared to be safer than those that floated into town looking for quick money. Mr A
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RHP User
7 years ago
When forums get catty....all of a sudden topics disappear into fairy dust. Play nice. It is all bout the love peeps.
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mkycouple1978
7 years ago
I encourage my man to go to one as he’s super keen to try some things and I’m not wanting to hold him back but from my point of view it would be easier for him to organise by calling into a brothel or getting an escort. But he would rather meet up with people from here for various reasons. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I honestly have no qualms about it. To me brothels and strippers is not an issue. It’s just an exchange — she wants to get paid he wants sex. At least they get tested every three months & you know they are clean! Who knows what you will catch picking up a chick off tinder. Half the people don’t even know about sexual health clinics and to get tested. At least he is being safe. Yes he paid for it , but so what! Sex is sex! Intimacy and connecting with someone is completely different.. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I honestly have no qualms about it. To me brothels and strippers is not an issue. It’s just an exchange — she wants to get paid he wants sex. At least they get tested every three months & you know they are clean! Who knows what you will catch picking up a chick off tinder. Half the people don’t even know about sexual health clinics and to get tested. At least he is being safe. Yes he paid for it , but so what! Sex is sex! Intimacy and connecting with someone is completely different.. - Posted from rhpmobile
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MsSuperFoxy
7 years ago
Great book! Love, love, love, the bird and the cage quote from the book. Ms Foxy
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Supernova
7 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Meanwhile on page 1 inspirit has turned into a guy, WTF? HAHA I was waiting for someone to pick up on this!! I was like, hang on a minute...wasn't this a female profile like, yesterday? It still is "female" apparently!
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RHP User
7 years ago
If a post of mine is too long for your attention span please feel free to move on with out comment, you are not forced to read any post And please note I was addressing the OP with a portion of the post directed at you specifically Sorry I was too dumb to pick up that you wrote it English I think we would both would agree that patronising statements comes from a state of insecurity. Yes ? OP I’m curious, as you put this out to a public forum and seen the responses, have you shared these comments with your lady friend ? If so, her thoughts ?
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RHP User
7 years ago
No - Posted from rhpmobile
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technologic
7 years ago
Yes it would be nice to have a brothel for women where you can be confident that the men are regularly tested for STDs. Totally worth the money I reckon. Hmmmm...I can see a business plan so that I can retire young forming... 😜 I wonder - would they be called sisthels? 😂 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I'm wondering if she wouldn't be with a man who has been to a brothel dose that mean she will only be with someone who has never had sex? And her self only ever been with 1 person as I fail to see the difference, except that you pay for it, to having sex at a brothel and going to a club and picking someone up, or having any kind of sexual relationship with anyone that has had sex with someone other than her. Mrs B - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I bet this post will cost me dearly but I could not resist. First I will ask this: what makes a man different if he has been to a brothel, what makes a man different if he is bi sexual and plays with both guys and girls and what makes him different if he enjoys jerking off to porn on the net, posing as a woman in a fake profile getting his rocks off with the responses. To the puritans who condemn a man who goes to a brothel how would they feel if that same man, who does not go to brothels but enjoys sticking his dick up guys butt then sticks it into you. What people do for their sexual gratification is no ones business except the individual, if you are on this site you are certainly not a virgin and probably have enjoyed various sexual encounters, I know because I have.The final point about men paying for sex --- this has been a topic I have had discussions about many times. For a guy he pays from the first date, whether it be to pick up his potential love (car+fuel), a nice meal ($100-$150 unless its Maccas), a few after dinner drinks ($50), a motel room (maybe $150+) and even then sex is not guaranteed. So what is that? $350 max in round figures--- cheaper to go to a brothel $100-$200 depending on the service required --- satisfaction guaranteed -- savings $150 so girls, unless your paying you need to lift your game. But wait their is more --- guy and girl fall in love, get married, buy a house, nice car and have children (2). Five years later it all falls in a heap (man/girl finds new girl/boy friend (cannot be gender specific these days) and split. Man loses half his assets and has to pay girl 32% of gross income for child support ( 2 Children). Sex (now non existence) for the proceeding years has suddenly become very expensive and a liability until the youngest child turns 18. Man now joins sites like this and (surprise surprise) has to pay a fee upfront --- so he has already paid for potential sex with out actually meeting anybody. Mmmm decides to try a swingers Club but once again has to pay upfront with no guarantee of sex. In the case of some Swingers Clubs it is cheaper just to go straight to the Brothel, get your rocks off then enjoy a night at the Casino. The final point would have to be, considering all of the above, does this make all women prostitutes because they are indirectly paid for sex. In the end what does it matter where a man has been, what he has done as long as the sex is fantastic.
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RHP User
7 years ago
“Satyr If a post of mine is too long for your attention span please feel free to move on with out comment, you are not forced to read any post And please note I was addressing the OP with a portion of the post directed at you specifically Sorry I was too dumb to pick up that you wrote it English” Pipsqueak; Okay, I believe there is a serious “lost in translation” here. First of all, I did not say your post is too long -as someone who loves reading to the point of fanaticism, I love long posts- I just wanted to say that if you are going to dedicate time into writing long comments, it’d be worthwhile to make sure they address the right subject. Yours may be right for its own audience, but my comment never meant to imply that only men who has issues at home goes to brothel, and I believe you were bit quick to jump to conclusion there and fire a salvo of harsh comments towards me. Second, I never accused you of being dumb neither I used such words in any of my comments. I made a statement, you and the other person personally attacked me. I made no such personal attacks on anyone. You may be feeling passionate about a subject, nothing wrong with it, but there is no need to get aggressive or insult someone. My personal opinion about brothels is different to my experience regarding the men known to me who goes to brothels, I have nothing against a safe, clean environment where consensual sex takes place. Further to that, some of the people who are very dear to me used to be sex workers, so I am not that “uneducated” neither “ignorant” about it. That’s that. Yes, maybe I should have written all this in the first place but it was quite late here and I didn’t want to type for ages with the massive fingers I have, it’s not easy for me to type all this with fingers that covers half the screen and to be honest, I wasn’t going to sacrifice having sex with my partner to arguing online. Yes, I do like exchanging opinions but there is a limit to how much energy I’ll invest into it. I have nothing personal against you or anyone in this forum, I believe it was just a matter of getting lost in translation. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Currently low on cash atm, expensive "car" rentals. Was a nice "ride" though. Currently on crowd funding sites. Titile need money for "research" and a 2 hour stroll to "BUNNINGS"😉
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RHP User
7 years ago
Men in AUSTRALIA are on one of the highest in the world to use brothels per capita. But also rates in the top scores of DENYING to say they go to brothels because of being judged by their peers. Google that shit FORUMITES
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RHP User
7 years ago
Mature by name not by nature. Welcome to 2018 we're we pay for our own shit. Oh and they're your children, pay for them 🙄 Ms PF
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RHP User
7 years ago
😏
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RHP User
7 years ago
Obviously not.
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RHP User
7 years ago
“I am sure I didn’t type in Sumerian. It was English” That sentence says it all Swing, can you give a more specific reference. I googled for obvious reasons but couldn’t find anything stating that Not doubting just interested to read it Ta
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RHP User
7 years ago
There are brothels for women Google is your friend :)
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technologic
7 years ago
@pipsqueak, I was excited to find out more about brothels for women but found this article instead (apologies for detracting from the OP but thought it is quite interesting). ---------------------- Why a "Brothel for Women" Is a Bad Business Model MARINA ADSHADE 08 November, 2010 A former New Zealand Member of Parliament is setting out on a new business venture that she feels will be very popular—a brothel for women. She has even done her "research" to see if demand exists for this service and found that over one-in-four women say they would hire a male sex worker. It is good to do market research, but there is good reason to believe that when it comes to selling sex to women, the numbers won’t add up. It is men’s desire for variety in sexual partners and their willingness to engage in anonymous sex that fuels the world sex trade. The reason a market for sex exists in the first place is that women have to be paid to have sex with strangers. Men don’t have to be paid to have sex with strangers and, even if they did, most women would be unlikely to pay for their services. If you doubt me, I propose you undertake the following study. Go and ask your friends, co-workers and random people you meet on the metro the following question: Ideally, how many sexual partners would you like to have over the next two years? I can tell you now; the men will report a desire to have far more partners than will the women. When these studies have been done in the past women report, on average, that they would like one sexual partner over the next two years compared to men who report, on average, that they would like to have eight. Women do not share men's love of variety in sexual partners. Or, ask this question instead: What is the minimum amount of time you would need to know someone before you wanted to have sex with them? I am going to guess that few women will say five minutes but many men will have no trouble with that time-frame. When these questions have been asked in the past, many women have said that six months is too soon. The best study that I know that examines the willingness of men and women to engaged in sex with strangers was done on university campuses the late 1970s, and again it the early 1980s.* It may seem that a study done so long ago is irrelevant to today, but in fact the timing was perfect. At this time the sexual revolution was in full swing, but lovers were still blissfully unaware that right around the corner was a new disease (AIDS) that was about to change the way we think about casual sex. New rules prevent us from randomly experimenting on university students, so we couldn’t even begin to replicate this study today. During the course of the study, a moderately attractive man/women walked up to a woman/man on a university campus and said “I have been noticing you around campus, I find you very attractive. Would you...” and then offered the unknowing participant one of three options: Have dinner with me tonight; come to my apartment tonight; go to be bed with me tonight. Both the target men and women must have found the person attractive since more than 50% of each group said “yes” to dinner (56% of women and 50% of men). The interesting result, though, is that as the offers became more sexual the men increased, while the women decreased, their willingness to participate. Remarkably, 50% more men were willing to have sex with the random stranger than were willing to have dinner with her. In response to the question "Would you go to bed with me tonight?" men responded: "Why do we have to wait until tonight?" or "I can’t tonight but tomorrow would be fine." Even those who said "no" (only 25% of the sample) expressed regret at having to do so. None of the women in the sample agreed to have sex with the handsome random stranger. Not one. Women responded to the offer with comments like "What's wrong with you? Leave me alone!" It isn’t true that no women like sex with strangers—just like it isn’t true that all men do—but it is unlikely enough there are enough women wanting anonymous sex to make beefcake-for-hire a profitable business venture. In order to believe the one-in-four statistic collected in New Zealand you would have to not only believe that women want sex with a stranger as much as men—you would have to believe they want it more. In the developed world, including New Zealand, about one-in-five men will have sex with a prostitute in their lifetime. Female demand is likely to be a small fraction of that number. After all, if women turn down offers of free sex, what reason do we have to believe they are willing to pay for it? Demand aside, you really need to wonder about the supply-side in this female brothel model: Are men really willing to pay a Madame to work in a brothel? Many brothels take 50% of a sex workers income but provide security and a stream of clients in return. Most male sex workers can advertise online or work out of a bar and travel safely to the home of their clients, especially in an environment where sex work is not a criminal act. I would be very interested to see what share of the take a man would have to be offered to encourage him to work in a brothel—not 50%, surely. Probably significantly less. All of this makes me think that a brothel for women is not a viable business model. I will give them credit though; it should be a fun experiment. * Clark, Russell and Elaine Hatfield (1989). "Gender Differences in Receptivity to Sexual Offers." Journal of Psychology and Human Sexuality Vol. 2(1): pp 39-48. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Now you have been a witness of how a herd mentality works. It tries to silence those that think differently. Our brains are hardwired in a way that belief often gets precedence over reason, and conformity over individual judgement. That means you can find women and men on those sites with different views but are reluctant to voice them.(Ms)
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RHP User
7 years ago
technologic I Appreciate the article It made for very interesting reading
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RHP User
7 years ago
It’s the penis ... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Technologic...great article..thanks...saw that experiment at the uni repeated in Professor Winstons the human body...stark contrast...we are lucky in that we are both closer to the centre of those extremes..cat n the hatter...not sure it is the herd instinct alone...if you are talking about the r complex sure it would play a part but we suspect the social conditioning and neo cortex are equally important and that if a blind study of such natural urges could be devised it would be more evenly distributed.
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RHP User
7 years ago
@Santouche, I think you have got that wrong mate. Not all males have gone, will go and going to a brothel. To the rest, I have never done it myself and I do not think I ever will just for one simple reason that I do not believe in paying for sex. That’s just my personal preference. I also am not judgemental for those who do go to brothels and I have had friends visit them just to keep it simple, release and f’off, which I can totally understand. I also believe brothels are necessary because it will help keep sex fiends away from the normal women on the streets. I am not saying everyone who visits the establishment are sex fiends but I am talking about are potential rapists, molesters, etc. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
As a bloke who has attended several brothels over the years. I do not hang my head and never will. Our past is our past and should be treated that way. - Posted from rhpmobile
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SandeGiny
7 years ago
Wow. I'd probably ask for them to take me next time. Not all brothels are crack houses and I'm curious to know what it's like. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I wouldn’t date a woman who judged me for going no matter how hot you are or think I am. I was in my twenties and the experience was excellent. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Just gonna mention, in Australia, you’re more likely to catch an STI from some person you meet on RedHotPie, than a sex worker in a brothel. It’s so f*#king basic to negatively stigmatize sex workers... people that do should grow up. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I heard a good quote once. "If you think sex workers 'sell their bodies', but coal miners do not, your view of labor is clouded by your moralistic view of society" I think women should not be shamed for it at all, and men shouldn't be shamed for using them. Behaviour and attitudes towards women from men can be and often is horrible, especially in a sex work scenario. I feel this post is suggesting that all men who use a brothel view women as mearly objects for their pleasure. I would say this is not the case, and that often men simply enjoy the company of a female, and the interactions which go with that. Sex is a big part if that yes, but the experience is bigger than that. I've had an escort experience once and I personally regretted it. I was munted on drugs and I wish I didnt make the choices I made that night, but I have nothing against the legitimate choices people do make for themselves. Treat other humans with respect, have a good time, live a good life and help others to do the same! Also, someone message me, I'm lonely tonight 😉👅 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Men are naturally more sex driven (or there be as many male prostitutes), so it's unfair for women to judge men who have been to brothels. Seeing as most don't get it, keep it quiet. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
And now I happy in a relationship. Yes, she knows and she doesn't care. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I discovered a friend in a sporting club I am involved with works at a brothel. More surprisingly, one of the hottest and fittest guys in our club almost secured her services until she suggested a girl he didn't actually know might be better. It seems even the best looking guys seek professional services at times.
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joanne1991
7 years ago
Honestly is it that they pay for a service? Do we not do similar when men pay for dinner drinks and we take them home, I’m a little confused maybe the actual service of the night is different but it’s the same in the end if everything goes well we all get what we have enjoyed and been paid for, now not get on our high horses and say it’s different it’s the same money from a wallet however it’s spent. I’m sure I’ll cop it for this one
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RHP User
7 years ago
If anything, it’s a good thing for self development. Everyone should try new experiences at least once. - Posted from rhpmobile
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jojo1970
7 years ago
I want to hear the rest of your story ...... had me hooked 😏 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Wow.! There’s some judgmental people about but hey! We all have our quirks and beliefs Now, I’ve been to a brothel, once when I was 17 in the military. I’ve also been an escort, worked for an agency, made a few porn films for a production company, been to a few parties , communicated with women and never ever felt entitled to a woman’s body. I’ve been married, had children and brought them up. I have lived, taken opportunities, enjoyed and had a great time all round. Soooo, I guess I’m not for those people. - Posted from rhpmobile
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countrytouch82
7 years ago
I would not date a guy who's been to a brothel. I would also not date a guy who hasn't been to a brothel :)
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rupamohan
7 years ago
Your post proves society is divided and diverse. I have even found swingers to be judgemental where as many people expect swingers to be open minded. I'm sure here even at rhp the group that never visits forums can have views vastly different from forum surfers on range of subjects. It all depends on which group is your audience. Personally I have strong faith in my capabilities to make decisions based on present. Someone's past is just one of many inputs and is not a sole criteria for me to make decisions. However many others can't respect people as individuals and have to group them as brothel goer and apply a general rule. This is unfair but the world was never supposed to be fair.😁😁😁
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RHP User
7 years ago
Hmm, depends on the attitude they go in with. I wouldn't judge a sex worker, so I don't think I'd default judge a customer - but depends if they see women as a commodity vs those that went in to a safe, non-trafficking environment for a professional service. - Posted from rhpmobile
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N4November
7 years ago
I damn well wish I could pop into my local knockshop, pick the bloke I want to play with and leave with a happy ending!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Theres nothing more beautiful than naked bodies exploring and enjoying what is meant to be a natural human need.... When it comes to sex, to each their own...its a personal journey for every individual.... Placing restrictions and constraints due to our personal views, cheapens the experience... To all I say Let urself go and dive in - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
From my experience in dating , Ive found a lot of women have left their partners after finding out about a history of visiting brothels/massage parlours . It's quite obvious after reading the comments women on here are mostly open minded . It's not such the case in the dating scene , I can be as open as possible to some women ,although some you meet would be totally disgusted if you told them the truth . It seems a bit sad that you'd have to start off a relationship with a lie but unfortunately not all women are as understanding . Doesn't always mean they're vanilla , hey may have just been in a relationship in which they were left high and dry while Mr went out on a rampage fucking working girls . From a different perspective it's not always great , although I can't say as I've indulged more than I could count , I just think sometimes we should keep a few truths hidden for the better of the relationship. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Not all of us have been to a brothel but I reckon we’d all be surprised if we included “massage parlours”. I keep a pretty diverse set of mates and I’m sure 9 out of 10 have had some fun somewhere. I sure have. Men get sick of batting off, need the variety, sometimes like to be single, sometimes are too busy, sometimes don’t feel like playing the game and heading out for a night to find a bird, sometimes get massive blue balls, sometimes have fetishes.... some men are very lucky and have a like-minded other half and don’t want to go. Fact is any woman can get laid any day of the week (for the most part) and most blokes have to put a lot more effort in than women. So meh. If women want to live in a world where they think most men don’t go, that’s fine but look st the number of brothels, dodgy looking massage parlours and ads in the paper there are. There’s is a big market out there. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Anyone who has been around the block knows hookers love condoms. Im surprised someone on rhp would give a fuck about that. Precious female i assume....same as me saying i would not fuck a women who sucked a strippers cock where there is definately no protection - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Everyone seems so busy wanting to be openminded- I can definitely see the herd mentality happening here. Me- I wouldn’t date someone who goes to brothels. If they had gone once years ago, I’d be ok with it- I’d want to scope out their attitudes to sex and to women first though. My POV is that I don’t want to be with someone who views a woman’s body as a commodity that can be bought. I don’t want to be with someone who wants to purchase sex and intimacy- I view it as a beautiful thing that needs to be freely given by both partners being equals. Sex as a transaction sees the power go to the person who pays. I don’t judge sex workers, but I wouldn’t date one either. I do judge the punters.
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Freaky_Fun
7 years ago
Oh please. I'm quite capable of making my own mind up. Just like you are, judge away. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Judgemental Kuntz, It's the fucking journey. Unless your in a cult and apart from whatever/whomever is in charge, and your deemed as sacrosanct. It's a ride you learn, you work out good from bad, repeating the more positive patterns in your life shunning or trying too, the negative. It takes effort, with none spare for the judgemental abuse of those throwing riffs with questionable footings. Fuck them the experience,exposure,conditioning, the culimation of fucking life made you exactly how you are. Only you can decide which direction to move towards. My suggestion would be, away from the oxygen thieving Kuntz and move towards what makes you happy. Unless you have been locked up by a cult. you've been playing one, two three, four, more player games anyway, it's just as soon as you get away from the standard power dynamics, girl dominates boy, skiipping some fiscal kpi towards it, it becomes dirty. The clearer the contract, the smoother the transaction. I'll end on: Clear communication is the cornerstone of successful realationships - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
It's all commodities, trading feelings, I'll see your euphoria, raise you some home town love, I'll 'borrow your business shirt to get home, I'll leave my girl friend to clean up your apartment. I will not check the millage on your cock or kunt, passport stamps that are obvious as freckles, I pay uni fees to help me nearly get words down in a row that are mildly cohesive, some fucking wild animal chicks tAkes my money to help me be a more pleasing shape.of a bloke, I'm going to invest in different subject matter experts to improve the package. The end of the day it just so I can put the best thing on the table for someone that just deserves the best. Perfection doesn't happen it's hammered and polished into being - Posted from rhpmobile
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funluvingal82
7 years ago
If you are coming across women who won’t date you because you could A) afford to go to a brothel B) went to a clean brothel rather than a random hook up, and C) can’t accept we all have a past, Then maybe revisit the dating pool you plunged into. I would much rather hear about that than the random hook ups and exes! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Ive visited a few brothels over the years.They are very clean and hygienic as are the girls...always using a condom as that is law.Many of the girls are just normal woman...policewoman,lawyers,nurses,teachers etc..all trying to earn a few extra dollars to put themselves thru University or pay mortgages...many only doing 1-2-3-4 shifts a week.A lot of men just need a female to talk to as they cant talk about some issues at home...just talking and niot even having sex.So to say that you would never date a guy who's been to a brothel is so naive and narrow minded..Good God ...she would be vanilla I bet who says that !!!
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RHP User
7 years ago
I just don't see an issue ?
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RHP User
7 years ago
My partners ex is a hooker. He didn't tell me til 5years later into the relationship and if I had known at the start I would definitely walk the opposite direction. It definitely is a deal breaker. Unless you go together with mutual consent and she picks the girl then I guess why not she is a keeper I guess but each to their own. Most hookers lie bout their jobs and say they work in a call centre of sumfin
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RHP User
7 years ago
Mz Urban They lie because of people like you looking down on them. *pfft* "definately a deal breaker "*pfft* *pfft* "would have walked away"*pfft* Do you some how possibly dare look down on your husband now for dating an ex hooker? If anything it demonstrates what an incredible bloke he is, he could love someone so much that he can see past what they do for a living and love her as who she was as a person! Not at all feeling insecure like so many others would. And my god I hope you have changed your tune by now. You are thirty love... Havent you seen enough of life to know that unless you have walked a mile in some one elses shoes you connot pass judgement. Im sorry to school you on a public forum so openly but your talking about something I hold very dear to my heart. These "hookers" are my favourite people in the world. They deserve to be treated with the utmost respect and refered to as people with names and identities. Thes incredible women give some of the people I support the most incredible gift of human affection and physical touch where no other members of society would. I LOVE spending time with women because most of all they are incredibly honest smart independant women. They connect with men on so many different levels and provide happiness in others. Get that, actually create joy for others. Thats a pretty cool trick Ay. Smack me if im wrong..
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'oddconnection' ... but your talking about something I hold very dear to my heart. These "hookers" are my favourite people in the world. They deserve to be treated with the utmost respect and refered to as people with names and identities. Thes incredible women give some of the people I support the most incredible gift of human affection and physical touch where no other members of society would. I LOVE spending time with women because most of all they are incredibly honest smart independant women. They connect with men on so many different levels and provide happiness in others. Get that, actually create joy for others. Thats a pretty cool trick Ay. Smack me if im wrong.. If they are so good what are you doing here?
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