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What are skinny. average and overweight body measurements
December 06 2016
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Sensualdays
9 years ago
I'm 61-62 kgs , 168 cm tall and very much a size 12! It's all relative, we are all different. If I lost any weight I'd look dreadful, I'm already down to skin and bone!
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RHP User
9 years ago
You are being hysterical, sorry but you may thing it's cringeworthy and you're above that, but your comments or reaction highlight how sensitive these topics are. I had more I wanted to say 'on topic' but decided to give it a big miss because of your type of reaction. It is a fact that size and weight can't be talked about in an open and honest way, without your kind of reaction. The question was simply asked how we view sizes or what sizes we consider average etc how WE as individuals view it, our take on that, nothing to do with national averages and not saying you or anyone else at a certain size is unattractive. I see attractive sexy women all the time in RL who are overweight (sorry guys I'm a bit fussier with you). But you see what's happening here. The responses are now coming in to stroke you and tell you it's okay. If you're okay with your size, then why be so defensive about it. People should be free to give an honest opinion about a topic without having to tone it the fuck down. You aren't giving a different, you're attacking other opinions, which would be expected if individuals had been targeted, but not for just being honest about the topic. You say you're just giving a different opinion? No you're not. A different opinion would be Size 6-8 (small, average whatever) Size 10 etc etc Hysteria. Here's the thing. You can't change how other people view you, or me, or the person standing next to us, no matter how much you try to guilt us out of having an opinion. Sorry, but it happens every time 😃
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RHP User
9 years ago
I decided that if youre not a nice person, your body shape will never make up for that. My thoughts are that we are all different shapes and will all be attractive to some people.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Also in response to your 'my reality' 'your reality' comment, I think you'll find it's just reality. You can't change the way you are viewed, no matter how much you try to shame opinions if they don't match up with your body type, which is what I said in and earlier post. You can go on about fat shaming until the cows come home, it won't change anything, people then just lie to make you feel better. Is that what you want and help you keep that head firmly in the sand. Now that last comment was harsh but think about it, just think about it
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Seachange73
9 years ago
Why would that be cotton wooling if the ladies call or perceive themselves as BBW, buxomy(which most are, hubba hubba), big (what's so delusional about that. They say they are big, no denial there) and curvy (they are). There are no denials on these ladies part but more a rejoicing of their assets that they obviously are more comfortable with than most of the detractors? Why would you be bothered with that if you are happy with your weight and size that you have so worked hard for? if the tables arr turned, where slim and underweight women are attacked the same way the media and negative insecure people attacked BBW and BBM, what would that achieve? Regardless of weight and size, height or race, we should be positive that people find themselves happy with who they are and support them. We should stop projecting our insecurities on others and pushing our or anybody's agenda onto those content in their position. We need to support other people to make them feel better and even encourage them to achieve healthier selves rather than putting them down when they don't come up to our/your personal standards. Too many negativity happening out there already and no need to add on. Btw, there wasn't any hysteria in PG's counter reply, just some lucid discussion in progress.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' "Ah, lets toss out "male privilege" at someone who disagrees with us to try and invalidate their opinion. That's also a solid way to express disagreement." In this case it's a pretty safe bet that 50z wouldn't have used the word 'hysterics' if he was responding to a man. It's a term almost exclusively applied to women, meant to try and emphasise how irrational we are because of our hormon-ey wimminz bits. Even if the person using it claims ignorance about the historical context of the word, using it in response to someone who has expressed an opinion in a calm and rational manner is pure gaslighting.
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Seachange73
9 years ago
It was recently used as an argument against women in the panel in a very public TV discussion on ABC when the women expressed a different opinion from the white middle aged man on the panel. And to voice their opinions aloud without asking for his permission to do so. them she devils should know their place. Silly women 😋 😁 surely it is their ovaries talking and not their brains? 😁
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Seachange73
9 years ago
Haha. There goes a pot calling a kettle black again. Lol Anyway, on topic, as previously mentioned in earlier posts, they average is dependent upon the mean weight and height of the general population, I.e. Asian vs Western average size variation. What you may consider a size 10 slim here is large in Asia. Or the other way around, their average size 6 is emaciated in our society. So depends which side of the looking glass you peer into. It's all smoke n mirrors. Happy to be average size, grabbable large busty woman with a larger than life personality and beaming with confidence. 😝 Just ask the people I have met. I have so much going for me, I'm deliciously average size but not common by any means. 😁
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RHP User
9 years ago
My issue with people expressing opinion as fact is that it is rarely "factual", or measurable. The comments I was addressing implied - indeed, flat out stated - that phrases such as curvy, buxom, and BBW are used as politically correct shills to hide the apparent "reality" of obesity, overweight, and unhealthy. That's not always the case. Many women who decide to describe themselves that way do so because they look in the mirror and see beautiful curves. They see themselves as both Big AND Beautiful, and recognise that those two descriptors aren't mutually exclusive. As for your opinions as to whether I was being hysterical or not - I've apologised to 50z for my personal reaction to his comment, but I stand by my assertion that I wasn't being "hysterical", nor were my previous comments out of line in response to the previous posts. As for the rest of it, thanks for taking the time to try and point out the error of my ways, but I don't respect your opinion. I'm also confused - I'm not sure if you want me to feel badly for trying to guilt others out of their opinion, or if you're trying to guilt me out of my own, with you "head in the sand" comment? If your comment was made a few years ago, I'd perhaps take it on board - I spent far too many years caring what other people think about me, and acting in accordance with that. Now, I know who I am, I stand up for that, and I won't let people try and diminish my voice, opinion or contribution simply because they don't agree with it, nor do I express those opinions for approval or praise. I DO value the opinions of people I know and love, and of those who are willing to enter into healthy debate without trying to drag others down. As for "average" - well, at a size 16-18 (depending on when and where you measure me) I'm clearly above average. Go me. ;-)
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RHP User
9 years ago
My point has been more than amply demonstrated. At no point did I criticise or insinuate that I preferred liked or hate any type of body shape over another, indeed over my life I have met loved and befriended many types. My post was purely about the sensitivity of the topic and that has been clearly proven. Any further comment from me is pointless as I clearly have no right to any opinion due to my male privilege and sense of entitlement. Oh and I'm pretty sure I've used the hysterical term against dc on one of their single men rants but as they never identify who is talking it could have been against either who knows. 🤐🤐🤐
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Seachange73
9 years ago
Discussion panel on channel 10 not ABC. Some cod dismissed a woman's argument as hysterical and her ovaries over reacting. Lol 😁. Is that comment ok if it was the man's penis talking? 😝
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RHP User
9 years ago
and from a male and my personal point of view, if you're a pear shaped woman, you're a goddess, regardless of size! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'lilyorchid' Discussion panel on channel 10 not ABC. Some cod dismissed a woman's argument as hysterical and her ovaries over reacting. Lol 😁. Is that comment ok if it was the man's penis talking? 😝 I take it you're referring to Steve Price v Van Badham on ABC's QandA, with later discussion on Channel 10's The Project? (as Price is a regular panelist on the latter) If so, let's not make up stories. Steve Price said Van Badham was being hysterical, she retorted "It's probably my ovaries making me do it Steve". Price didn't say anything about her ovaries. I don't want to overstep, but to employ the 'Steve Price defence' - I'd say 50z probably doesn't have a huge background in feminist theory, or spend much time reading up on the etymology of words like "hysteria"? I really don't think he meant any reference to wandering wombs. Maybe he double checked with the dictionary before using it "affected by wild emotion", and figured it was a little hyperbole, but what the hell. Would he have used that particular word to describe a man or a different word to imply the same thing? I don't know. Is it really any different to say someone is hysterical to if he'd used the long form and said they're wildly over emoting? potato potato. (PG: I'm not saying you were either of those in your post) Given that 'hysteria' had not been a diagnosis for a long time, and it has long since passed into the vernacular as a general non-gender specific term, it really gets more air time when trotted out every time we need a "how dumb were olden days people" article because (being cynical) it's easily rehashed clickbait gold. If we claim it is legit to dip well into the past and insist on that meaning, isn't it a bit inconsistent to then claim a recent redefinition of curvy is all good? Surely the historical sticklers should be calling "point of order, 'curvy' traditionally means a pronounced hourglass shape, like a monica belluci or monroe, not a beth ditto". Keep in mind, with the pattern of evolution for euphemistic terms - in a few years, the next generation of kids will shortly tell you that "curvy" is a horrible old-timey word, and then tell you the new euphemism for exactly the same thing, and "curvy" users will be lumped in with 50z using awful old terms. I'm noting that while we took a dip into the history books on "hysterics", we had 20 pages of "lame messages" thread, without any righteous indignation at the use of "lame" in a negative sense. Gosh you guys, next you'll be using "gay" or "retarded" as a negative adjective that has zero intentional reference to homosexuals or people with an intellectual disability, respectively? no? Because we all knew "lame" wasn't meant with any reference to cripples? It's just a colloquial term. Hysterical. Quoting 'lilyorchid' encourage them to achieve healthier selves rather than putting them down when they don't come up to our/your personal standards. and that isn't a euphemistic way of suggesting that people shouldn't be overweight? Dressing it up as a health concern? Why would we be sending someone signals to change unless we think they should? i.e. that how they are currently, is not the right way to be. If we're doing that, then we either don't think they're fine as is and should change - or if we genuinely think that they want this encouragement to change, then I don't see any other conclusion than that at some level we see their self-assigned descriptors (e.g. BBW) as a euphemism rather than a genuinely held belief. Patchwork: I'm not sure how obesity is "reality" and not actual reality? Or do you just mean that not every person who describes themselves as a BBW is necessarily obese or overweight? I was looking for a definition, and though I suspect BBW has a long history as a TLA to save money in newspaper personals ads and swinger 'contact' mags, BBW Magazine claims to be the source of the term - in lieu of a proper definition (besides just looking at the words themselves) the pictures paint a clear picture even if it lacks a specific set of dimensions. I've NEVER seen it used in reference to someone who was just big, and not also generously rounded. e.g. Lauren Jackson might be "big" - because she's like a normal slender woman scaled up to fucking tall, and beautiful (the internet shows hits for "lauren jackson hot")... but I don't think anyone would consider her a BBW. Nor Robyn Lawley, compared to regular models she's bigger, (IMO) beautiful and a woman. (has it been coined as a law yet, a Godwin's law equivalent involving Lawley and plus sized discussion? ) Similarly, there are some general meanings for "curvy" - and that meaning has been co-opted from the traditional sense - but if we don't adhere to some general meanings of it in this domain, it's a completely useless descriptor - who doesn't have some curves? Anyone that isn't a robot made of boxes has "curves" and could therefore claim to be a "curvy" shape. (It's a bit early in the day to be busting out these long posts, I guess it's 3am somewhere...)
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RHP User
9 years ago
But do you not see that no-one is shaming or saying you're not sexy or attractive, it's just an opinion on how people gauge size, simple as that. The head in the sand comment is related to your unrealistic expectations. Not you exclusively, and I wasn't attacking you as a person, just trying to point out how we were just answering the topic question, nothing malicious. The key point though is how are you going to change how people view sizes, or why do you care? I can flat out tell you that attraction is attraction. I had a guy turn up here one day and I just knew he wasn't attracted to me, I could feel it, where he may very well have been attracted to a bigger chick, none of us were saying larger was unattractive. It's the person. I've been there, you would know that, but I never blamed anyone else, only myself. I respect women who can be happy at any size. I'm much happier now but that's a lot to do with how I feel, not how I look. Anyway, no disrespect toward you intended, just pointing out how sensitive these size or weight topics are 😉
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RHP User
9 years ago
As a obese/overweight woman at size 18 down from 24 I find this whole thread slightly ridiculous, its not something you can hide. I'm upfront about my wieght in my profile its first line in "my own words" I also wouldn't meet anyone with vetting photos etc and if I did arrive to find someone very much different to photos in a displeasing way I'd just walk As for the terms curvy, larger, BBW on sites such as RHP I'm not given a choice to chose obese/overweight, its BBW or lie that I'm slim so less judging on that term would be nice - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
A Dad Bod option? 😀
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RHP User
9 years ago
I'm short and size 10 usually (depending on make), have tits and ass. Use it to my advantage. Don't care about labels. I am who I am. My size hasn't changed since puberty. Don't need a reason to change. 1 boyfriend asked me to lose weight and 1 asked me to gain weight lol lucky I just don't give a damn. They like me how I like me or they can go find someone else. I don't date shallow guys, so this question has never entered my mind. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
One of my girlfriends is a big girl in many ways. The thing I love most is her big heart.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' 6-8 small 10 average 12-14 bit plump moving into overweight 16-18 obese or getting to be a worryGoing on the old scale6-8 is skinny10-12 average14-16 plump18 and above is fat-obese or OMFG
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RHP User
9 years ago
6 to 10 is skinny12 to 14 is average16 to 18 extra kilos20 up is plumpThe most modern lie is the lie to yourself if you think this scale is correct.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I can only speak for myself, DC. I'm fat, and I'm ok with that. I this for me, the reason I choose words other than this one is because "fat" has become laden with connotations like the ones you imply over a number of your posts, and they don't fit me at all. I'm not in denial, nor am I guilty. My body, curves and all, is a result of my lifestyle choices. I have, in the past, been significantly smaller, after making some serious changes to my life file, and not only did I not enjoy my life, I didn't like the way I looked - rather than the lovely heart shape my face is now, with the killer cleavage, I looked gaunt and ill. Perhaps people avoid the word "fat" so they can try and avoid the judgment that frequently accompanies it in posts like yours. Summer, I agree, I hope the "blonde" had a great night. :-) a
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RHP User
9 years ago
Offensive or not? My married friend describes herself this way. I like her for being herself and comfortable with that.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Excuse typos. Not even sure what "I this for me" is supposed to be, but I'm sure you get the gist. I shouldn't post before coffee.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'DynamicCouple36'Why do we all "pussyfoot" around saying "fat" ? the same reason people don't usually outright tell someone that they sound like a judgmental, pompous, nasty, thoroughly unlikeable asshole.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Sorry but most of the cleavage would be fat, that is a fact, and another way of glorifying being overweight or 'fat' IMO that dreaded word. You're okay with it? Sorry but by your feisty comments here, I doubt that. No-one who was okay with it would be this defensive. Why are you again? Because you don't fit the usual fat stereotype? Again, why do you care? I don't fit the usual cougar stereotype either. I'm much worse 😂😂😂 I try not to wear leopard print or to appear pathetically desperate (fail at that one). but you see the tacky dress sense re animal print etc is the stereotype, age or being a cougar, isn't the deciding factor, just a bonus for me 👌👍 and that stereotype is however one we have a lot of fun with particularly on the forum. Now what if that fun was being found by chucking around funny fat stereotypes and fat jokes? I rest my case. All DC is saying is that these terms don't change the reality, the person does however IMO so why get so worked up about it? I believe women offended by being called a cougar are also in denial, so not uniue to the 'fat' tag. I love everything about my dirty self/cougar status and strut my stuff like a peacock 😀 So my point is it's still sugar coating, for fear of offending.
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RHP User
9 years ago
The 'blonde' was a bit below the belt though 👅😉 took that one like a bullet 😕
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
And apologies if l am. From memory, DC lost a lot of weight to acheive a more average body shape? I find people that have adjusted their life styles in different ways are prone to over preaching. Ie smokers and drinkers. Reformed smokers......reformed drinkers. And good on them. But we are all in charge of ourselves. Judging others for mistakes they were guilty of.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Look who popped in, kettle black there 😇
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RHP User
9 years ago
Posting order stuffed that up lol think I'll give up while I'm ahead 😀 or behind or whatever, off to find my fave leopard print for today 😊
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RHP User
9 years ago
I just did via PM but only used one word...
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RHP User
9 years ago
Stealing someone else's material but give it up, the great fit/fat debate, there's blood in the water, incoming 😉
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MissBishere
9 years ago
That's an hour of my life I won't get back 😕
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RHP User
9 years ago
Shark infested waters, I'm gettin' outta here 💨🏃 shit that didn't work, looks like I let one out
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RHP User
9 years ago
Most people ( guys and women) dont have rock hard flat stomachs. I dont think the term is offensive. A friend of mine ( who was a larger girl ) had an accident while on holiday in Spain. Before the doctor treated her, he asked how far on her pregnancy was. She wasnt pregnant. It spurred her on to lose weight. We are all different shapes and sizes. If we were all one size, how boring that would be. For me, health and happiness are more important than how jiggly my tummy is
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RHP User
9 years ago
I'm with DC on certain aspects of their comments. Fat is fat. Whatever name you call it, it's the blubbery stuff that is not healthy when stored in excess in anyone. Obesity has reached epidemic proportions in Australia and until we call a spade a spade, we won't be anywhere close to reversing the situation. I have fat pads that I am not proud of. It's jiggly and it's definitely not muscles, and I won't deceive myself and soften reality by calling it big, beautiful jiggly fat pads. It is big, it isn't beautiful, it's something I need to work harder to get rid of so that I can be healthier. Recently, I learnt that at least two of my illnesses have improved tremendously because of my weight loss. I was quite surprised at how drastic one's health can improve by losing excess fat. I mean, reading about it and hearing about it is one thing, but to actually experience it first-hand can be mind-blowing. How can excess fat ever be "good"? How can obesity ever be polished with glowing positive terms? People are beautiful. Fat is not. I've got obese friends whom I love to bits for their personality. I try to see the person within. But I would be lying if I said that I found the obesity "beautiful". We accept excess fat on our bodies. We learn to live with it and deal with it. Some of us learn to ignore it and others can't do anything about it because of poor health or life circumstances. That's life. We all face challenges. People can still be well-groomed and presentable with fat pads but to call it "beautiful" is hard to accept for certain folks. Fat builds up in the human body because of food intake being way higher than energy output, amongst many other physiological reasons. Endocrinological etiologies for obesity can be a right royal bitch to deal with. I did suffer from that for a while but it's a chicken and egg question for some of us - are we suffering from endocrinological / hormonal causes of obesity because of our poor diet and bad lifestyle in the first place, or are we suffering from the effects of that despite a fabulously healthy diet and an active lifestyle? I look at my fat photos, and I hate them all. I have never been proud of being fat, I will never ever be proud of my fat pads now, and I will endeavour to keep on living a healthy lifestyle to the best of my ability. My tram passed through the city just yesterday and I saw two very young "BBW"s wearing tight fitting clothes and flaunting it. I still find it very very hard to see excessive fat as "beautiful". An obese lady can have beautiful eyes, a lovely face, and a wonderful personality because fat doesn't affect some of these features and characteristics. It's the fat glorification that is disturbing. It's none of my business if someone is obese and considers themselves BBW but to try and portray obesity as the new norm and the new beautiful is really illogical and an impediment to good health. Why are we endorsing an unhealthy lifestyle and state of being as something wonderful? If excess fat is truly beautiful, we'd have "fat centres" where habits that help to pile on the excess fat are encouraged. Instead, we have slimming centres, we have a whole gamut of plastic surgery procedures and all manner of gastric banding, we have a staggering array of tablets that claim to help one lose weight... multi million to billion dollar industries, all. You hear of people working hard to lose weight, never to gain weight. The truth often hurts but sometimes, we need to swallow the bitter pill before we get better.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Love that pink bikini, sista! I'd kill for your non-jiggly arms and flat abomen!
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RHP User
9 years ago
I doubt you are able to "rest your case", as you continue to try and attack me, and make assumptions as to what you think you know about how proud/defensive I am of my weight, my curves, my cleavage, or my belief in myself and my beauty and/or attractiveness. I have nothing more to say to you on this topic.
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RHP User
9 years ago
KFC = Kids Fattening Centre
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RHP User
9 years ago
Egg shells, hang on, okay two words. Nice diversion btw that oughta get you about 15 likes haha you still haven't replied to the issues raised, just keep stating how sexy you are. No-one was debating that 😉
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summer_in_Sydney' Quoting 'DynamicCouple36' One of the attendees was highly obese "blonde" woman. She kept on referring to herself as a Big Beautiful Woman and did so at every opportunity and as loudly as possible. Facially she was not at all attractive. Personality wise she was crass, very much in ones face, and vulgar. She acted in a slutty fashion. In our opinion she was certainly over compensating. Clearly she had issues /insecurity complexes about her weight. The slutty unattractive obese "blonde" (why not just blonde?) imo sounds like much better company than you, I hope she had a bloody amazing night. I can't think of much worse than crass, vulgar and in your face - even if it was from a bikini model. DC: crudeness aside, if the woman had not insisted that she was "beautiful" would your assessment of her been quite as harsh? If she had just said it once, or simply let the obvious fact speak for itself - as I'm sure you could see she was a big woman - would that have changed your opinion? (not that you would've found her attractive, just changed your assessment somewhat) Don't worry though, give it a few years and the BBW will be an offensive outdated term e.g. "No, I'm not a BBW - such an awful old term... I'm an AAL - Ample Attractive Lady" to be replaced by the LOG - Lusty Ovoid Gal. Men will still be "fat guys with a beer gut". I think if you're using terms like BBW then it isn't quite right to also seek the safe harbour of a judgement/subjective comment free zone, since the term is subjective by it's very nature. Any term for something which refers to something generally considered a negative trait will have a negative connotation over time - since we're still referring to the same thing and that thing is not considered a positive. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear :p If a body builder walked in and kept insisting he was a "HaMM" - "Hot and Muscly Man"... would none of the naysayers opine that he was simply a Pig?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Why do you always make so much sense and so concise?! It's so awesome. Practice what you preach I guess...when you wanna GTFO of a situation that you don't like, you change it and can take a fair amount of criticism/judgements about it. I admit that I overpreach sometimes before I can stop myself from causing harm. I guess from witnessing domestic violence as a child, I just want more harmony and independence. Hmmmm 🤔 Oops, I'm not fat or skinny. Some have called me fat, some have called me tiny. It's all relative. My size never actually changed, throughout my entire adult life. - Posted from rhpmobile
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