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Two straight women and a male in FMF, why not ???

July 04 2012

Two straight women and a male in FMF, why not ???This question has perplexed us from the day we joined. Why is it so difficult for single women to fathom playing with a couple where the couples woman is straight and only mildly experimental ??? My lady is pretty much in to fellas, does not fantasise about other women as quite a few appear to, but understands and shares my desire to be with her and another and not all for selfish reasons like most would assume. She is happy to experiment a little, but rather prefers it not be with women better suited to LMM.Why does this scenario not appeal to 99% of rhp women ??? Is a bloke so unappealing so as to attract no interest other than bi ladies simply wishing to play with my lady ???As a couple are we alone here or do couples with totally bisexual women feel the same ???

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    The problem that I, as a straight woman, would have with this scenario is:- Gotta be more about the women satisfying the man more than mutual satisfaction. Yes I have been in this situation. The way I see it, you are going to give more to your wife than the other woman because she is the one you love, she is the one you know exactly how to please and she is the one who is gonna get real dirty if she gets ignored. Also been in the two straight men and me situation as well. Personally I didnt enjoy either one really but then.... That is just me!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    This, and other similar sites, are so crammed full of single men why would a single woman want to share when it can be all about her?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Personally, the mrs has been down the MFM path where it was all about her and enjoyed. Valid points taken on board, you must have met some really selfish men in your time, fact is the mrs here would more than likely insist on the other being spoiled as well as her, for us it's about 3 people, not simply one.Can see why a lot of single women on here may see it not worth their while to share when it can all be about her, rather selfish though. Suppose that's why we've seen so many women on here with very lonely profiles, some on here year after year, but like you said, for most it's "all about her"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Perhaps the question should be ,why would a single woman want to join you both?.What would you have to offer her? As Handmaiden so succinctly said ,in a situation like this it is usually all about the man and many straight men have the fantasy of being the focus of two women concentrating on pleasuring just him. The men who may achieve this desire,by attracting single women from this site, would I imagine have to look pretty much like a Greek god. x Hugs H

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I would think this was obvious. Starving Ms who would settle for half a woman are a dime a dozen. Fs who would like half a man are rare as hens teeth. Why wouldn't they be it is hard for a whole M to find a F.Hell we offer M and F but it is still pretty hard to find and F who wants to be pampered, penetrated and pleasured by a pair.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Thanks for the reply guys, guess seeing I'm no Greek god and never will be may as well no longer hold on to such a fantasy even if the other half is all about sharing. Going by the responses so far it would be fair to say the site is all about "women's" fantasy fulfilment and anyone else need not bother !! Bit sad really and a little lop sided but hey, we don't make the rules. Thank god there are other couples around who equally like to see the other have life experiences.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Kinkisthenewpink, not all of us push our partners in to situations they don't wish to be involved with re girl girl. Some except what their partner enjoys and play within that comfort level. My lovely never expected me to do male male for her to enjoy MFM thank god, not looking to push her to do bi either. Think if I had the nip and tuck done I'd stand a fighting chance but rather like my tackle and am not willing to part with it but maybe that's just me....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Krissy_G, That's a real nice thing the other woman did by holding your hand in the morning, would like to think if we ever get there the "other" is someone caring enough to do similar.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Decibels, never ever dreampt of 2 males to yourself in your life have you ?? You'd be a very rare woman. Lol, hey why change positions from missionary ?? What's the point in that ?? I don't get it !! What's the point of dreaming ?? What's the point of having a fantasy, I don't get it ??? AMAZED

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    .... sad fact is, why settle for a cheese burger when you can have a works burgermy question to the op is... how far are you willing to go with another female? .... what's 'mildly experimental' ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Cookie yowie, that's a fair question but not one she chooses to answer in an open forum for all and sundry, additionally you are not a "single female of interest" we will pass answering "here"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Apologies, coodi_yowie !!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I find it hard to believe thatyou couldnt pick up to men at any time

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    ask for our opinions op...doesn't make us selfish just because it doesn't float our boats.I think you are looking in the wrong place,heaps of men achieve this fantasy,think about your other networks,who do you and your partner know and like. It is not impossible ,it's just highly unlikely that you will find a woman here,the odds are against you. But good luck in your search,a woman might be reading your post and prove me wrong.x Hugs H

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Hey cutecouples... always someone pissing on something. Now there is a fetish for ya. Sorry... What was your question. Oh yes, have you guys tried going to a swingers club? Or a sex party? Of course both of these can be hit and miss but you may have better luck finding like minded people there. I would also go to some of the meet and greet events as well. Good luck!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Otherwise, I guess it might be as the women have said above. As for the younger girls.... Not sure but I suspect alot of people are not as adventurous as you might think. I have only been in group situations where the girl was into other girls or at least didn't mind a bit of touching happening.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I lived closer Mrs Tri

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Thanks Meeka but yeah we have been to swingers clubs and played which we enjoy but call me the male "Julia Roberts" if you like as I want the fairy tale bit. Dinner and drinks with my gorgeous lady and another, doesn't have to be just about the sex component does it, can't we have a few laughs with the woman and some flirting leading up so both women feel totally comfy before the messing around part begins or am I barkin up the wrong tree ??

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Because frankly, with a couple where the woman is bi, you can do what you're offering (a straight FFM)......As well as whole lot more.Not uncommon knowledge that single women are a rare commodity on this site...and because of that tip in the balance, the odds are in their favour (especially for those that are bi) to pick and choose their playmates.As Meeka has suggested, try a club, or perhaps have a standalone male profile on the site, but list that you're attached and looking for someone to join your lady and yourself. Not sure if that will reap better results, but may be worth a try.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Been there done that, the whole site is becoming one big bore, where one profile differs not from the profile before or after any you choose to view. You'd be right in assuming we are a little shitty as this is a sex site after all, but it appears to cater only for bisexuals, worse yet there is a very large predominance of full blown lesbians all claiming to be bisexual with little or no interest in males which is why we assume the "L" word is the more correct.

  • playful4u

    playful4u

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'cutecouples4us'Thanks for the reply guys, guess seeing I'm no Greek god and never will be We had a friend who thought he was a Greek god, but he really was just a god damn Greek If a girl is bi or bi curious, it may not lead to anything with another girl in FMF.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    All we want is a woman to give us a go, not ring or worse yet text on the morning of the meet with some flimsy excuse about why she can't meet. All it does is wastes our time. Funnily enough we have played as a couple with other couples where the woman was bisexual where the other woman still enjoyed even without "mandatory" girl play. So with that in mind one gathers those women in the couples were "truly" bisexual as in, "in to both men and women" rather than the single variety who we have found to be are really only in to other women... bisexual or not ???

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'playful4u' Quoting 'cutecouples4us'Thanks for the reply guys, guess seeing I'm no Greek god and never will be We had a friend who thought he was a Greek god, but he really was just a god damn Greek Oh wait, no, Roman. Damn!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    What's in it for her !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    50zCool, could throw the same question right back at you re your profile looking for women and couples. Why would a couple need you, the woman already has a male doesn't she, why would she need another ?? Oh that's right, maybe she has a fantasy of playing with 2 men. But wait, what's in it for the other male, the one from the couple.... This leads nowhere really doesn't it. Everyone is allowed to dream. Question is though, why do women with a straight listing write "looking for couples" ?? Maybe some on the surface see an interest but deep down most simply don't want to share but are more than happy to be shared by a male partner when they eventually find one.

  • Zsuza69

    Zsuza69

    14 years ago

    There are women out there that are willing to have FFM but if you cant find them you can have the same experiance with another couple provided the guys get their act together and cum at different times.Then there you have it a FFM while the other guy recovers.Mind you the other couple would have to be into everyone play rather than just a straight swap.And for that to happen both the male and female parts dont mind a little bi play.keep looking for your fantasy course if we give up on it whats the point in living. but be open to other play as well and enjoy the company and the attention you can get and your fantasy will happen when you least expect it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool'What's in it for her ! It is all very well to bang on about how this site MUST all be about the womans fantasy. But hey....isnt this about your fantasy? I have always found RHP to be about whatever I want to get out of it. It is what you make it after all and currently you are sounding like a whiney little boy who can not get what HE wants.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I don't find it unreasonable for a straight woman to want a FFM threesome to please her man. Not all women are so self centred and always wondering "what's in it for me?" You just need to find a single woman who you can connect with, build a rapport / friendship with, and who would be willing to help you fulfill that fantasy. I'm sure there are some out there! Best of luck in your search.Leah

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    If you did look at my profile you missed this bit,*Currently interested in couple with Bi Male for my intro to Bi, everyone gets to play though ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    No you are not barking up the wrong tree, however swingers clubs and other events are not just about sex. In my experience there is quite a network of friendships and opportunities to meet like minded people and you just never know where new friends might lead you or who they may introduce you to. And no not everyone plays with each other. Again, if cold calling on RHP Isn't doing it for you and I am just going off your original comments then change your methods &/or your audience. As a single girl myself I would feel more inclined to form "friendships" with people I meet face to face and of course if we hit it off. It's not impossible.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Handmaiden, Your entirely correct, have already admitted to bitching about it. Will give you a scenario but with YOU on the receiving end this time. Hypothetically you as a str8 woman find yourself a str8 male partner. You decide to go on rhp to hopefully both organise your collective fantasies. Fast fwd three years down the track…. "Excluding" messages from couples and only including messages from "singles". Results; 1. All message received from "males" consist of those wanting to play with "you and your partner" as in MFM. All good right, remember your partner is str8 so no problem there correct !! 2. Every message you receive from "single females" consist of females wanting only "bi" with "you" and none are interested in your male partner unless you do bi with the other woman. Your male partner should be happy right, it's all about "the both of you" correct ?? Would "you" be feeling any pressure to do bi and go down on another woman because your partner eventually says, hey how come no women are interested in FMF ?? Thought both of us were supposed to get our fantasies here ?? Would he be in the wrong for thinking this ?? No, apparently he's just selfish for thinking he is missing out. By the way, my partner does NOT think I'm selfish at all and is equally shitty about the results above as she does love me and wants me to have my fantasies also. Welcome to our world.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    your frustration OP,we all have fantasies,wants ,needs and that is a wonderful thing.I don't understand why you are dismissing all the advice you have been given,particularly Meeka's. Perhaps you are, to quote a cliche,putting the cart before the horse.Go to parties and events,meet and connect with people. Fantasies sometimes take planning and effort to fulfill,from what you say ,you want more than just sex ,you and your wife want a connection with a woman,that is not going to happen quickly. It also sounds to me, that in the quality of the relationship that you already have ,it is the very thing which many of us here fantasise about.x Hugs H

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I can feel for your frustration bud, and I think thousands of other guys could empathise as well.For the majority it will remain just that, a fantasy, and you know what,I reckon thats not an entirely bad thing.There's two ways fmf can play out,1/ You get your jollies and the chicks pretty much miss out.2/ Its all inclusive, and important that all involved have a great time and be fully satisfied.Which one are you?I'm gunna assume your in the 2nd category.There in lies the problem unless your some kind of stud...and yes I know they're a dime a dozenhere...well according to their profiles anyway. Speaking for myself here, fully satisfying one woman can be a task in itself, unless you knowwhere her buttons are and the right sequence to push them. So the prospect of taking on two women can be a herculean task, and one your average blokeis more than likely to fail at.If your like me and care that everyone be fully satisfied, your brilliant fantasy could becomea nightmare.I have never had two women all to myself, and for the reasons above, happy for it to remaina fantasy, unless they were both bi, so they could carry on after I had come up short.In my opinion couples are the way to go.Though if your really determined to test yourself, change your profile name tosomething thats not exclusionary.Anyway good luck and hope it works out for you.Cheers Felonius

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Hi Im straight and not at all interest in sleeping with other women been there done that But I do like to watch other couples have fun together if it was a case of me joining the other couple in bed then yes I would b up 4 it but I wouldnt play with the wife just the husband make it about him

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'mun42' Hi Im straight and not at all interest in sleeping with other women been there done that But I do like to watch other couples have fun together if it was a case of me joining the other couple in bed then yes I would b up 4 it but I wouldnt play with the wife just the husband make it about him Hey mun, don't you sound like a woman from the gods !!One exception though, your interests would be taken care of, not every male is selfish....a bloke simply wants a chance is all.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I have a friend whose philosophy is that in a 3some, everybody should be able to do anything with everyone there.If you grab an ass and someone says: "Hey, I don't like girls", that would kill the buzz.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Seriously? Some of the comments stun us, but probably answer a few things that have perplexed us in this whole scene. That is, for so many people its just about what they can get for themselves. For a lifestyle where sharing seems rather essential, selfishness seems to rule. Doesn't anyone actually enjoy giving pleasure to somebody else? Frankly, we can't see what the problem is with any particular dynamic. You just keep going until everyone's had enough! In our threesome experiences so far, the third person joining us has always been the one given the most attention - we ENJOY getting someone else off. We can get each other off ant time we want. So girls, if you're being left out as the third wheel in a threesome, whether its a straight or bi scenario, you're playing with the wrong couples!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Have been in this situation twice now. The first time the wife seemed only interested in watching her husband having sex with me, whilst she masturbated in front of us. It's a memory I often fantasise about during sex. It was so hot. The second, while the wife said she was bi, there was no interaction between us. She did ensure that her husband give me plenty of action though.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Usually this senario is a fantasy of the Male ... If the woman are Straight why the hell would they want this senario ? I see this as a Selfish fantasy ... Man wants 2 woman to ravish him ... His partner goes along with it ... other Woman being used nothing Special here for Her ... Imagine how false and non-passionate this senario would be Not only that ... my thoughts are is this Man going to be capable of pleasing two Woman all night long? I doubt it ... In any 3sum needs to be Want .. attraction & passion mutural pleasures for all ...

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'jensta'Usually this senario is a fantasy of the Male ... If the woman are Straight why the hell would they want this senario ? I see this as a Selfish fantasy ... Man wants 2 woman to ravish him ... His partner goes along with it ... other Woman being used nothing Special here for Her ... Imagine how false and non-passionate this senario would be Not only that ... my thoughts are is this Man going to be capable of pleasing two Woman all night long? I doubt it ... In any 3sum needs to be Want .. attraction & passion mutural pleasures for all ... So, is there something inherently wrong with a male having fantasy? Most people i would have thought, whether male or female, would like 2 people to ravish them. Seem to be an awful lot of women on here who like being with two men... and how is the scenario above equate to the woman being "used"? No different to the other way around. Oops, we forgot, of course all men love to be "used", so it's ok....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I see this as a Selfish fantasy ... Man wants 2 woman to ravish him ...And in a MMF scenario, a woman wants 2 men to ravish her. I suppose she is being selfish too??Geez, give the guy a break! What man wouldn't want this fantasy? And who is to say that this man wouldn't be able to pleasure both women til they are satisfied? I'm sure it has been done before...Good luck cutecouples. Don't give up your fantasies... make them happen!Leah

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    i think its just that more bi-curious or bi-sexual women are more inclined to want to go bi mff 3some, women come to this site wanting to play out their fantasies too, you just wont find many women looking for non-bi mff is all, also yes it would be all about the man in a (non-bi) mff in most cases, just like it would usually be about the woman in a non-bi mmf, nothing wrong with it, its just the way it plays out

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Yay Leah! Some common sense! We thought we might be the only ones! And we second that cutecouple - keep on seeking your fantasy...

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Krissy_G' Because she didnt want me to feel left out. We chatted afterwoods and queried whether it would be me being fucked if I had slept in the middle. The dynamics of threesomes are soo facinating. Personally being single its not something that I could really appreciate unless the attentionwas shown to one person by both of us.   Just my thoughts. xxYep, we agree Krissy, the dynamics of threesomes are fascinating. And they can go wrong, be average, or they can be wonderful. As they can be in any encounter of any dynamic on here. Which is why we find some of the other comments on here a bit perplexing - the ones along the lines of "what's in it for her?" & "why that dynamic when I can get that and more elsewhere?" Unless you know the person/s well, you don't know what you're going to get. Isn't that half the fun? Perhaps in this scenario a girl may not be the centre of attention, but they may share an experience with a couple who have been fantasising about it for years, and have a wonderful time. We'd argue that while a very large component of good sex is your own physical pleasure, if it's only about how many orgasms you have and how long you get fucked for, you're probably missing out.

  • rk5tar

    rk5tar

    14 years ago

    I have been seeking a nice lady to join my husband and myself. Much the same as you OP. However all the profiles I read of women saying they would like this very scenario never yield a reply after a message, or I get a "flirt" asking me to message them. I do,and nothing. I too am wondering if I am so hideous looking/sounding that no one wants to play?I have been with other women by myself and enjoyed it immensely. Yes my husband would like to watch and possibly join in, but I cant seem to make that happen for whatever reason. Despite all the promising profiles I read.Yes I feel disheartened. I have very thick skin, but have to admit after many months of searching without results I am starting to ask myself what is wrong with me?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    You are sufering from Rhpmms, mostly presents in males, but sometimes in other groups as well.Not usually fatal, but you made need a course of WGAF therapy.This message proudly bought to you by Felonius Clinics Inc.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Mrs cutecouples here. Unbelievable that some on here seem to think my hubby is a selfish man !! We have played with a few couples both privately and at some parties. Believee right now, as far as hubby being selfish, you could not be further from the truth. Every time we play he barely even whips it out until the lady has been "looked after" downstairs, most men simply just say "suck this", he'd rather your asking him, but again he's just selfish isn't he !! Just like him, our first MFM we wanted it to be a special event, not simply meet at a hotel and fuck. He screened the guys who were interested in me that I liked to make sure they weren't simply selfish pigs. To the one who claimed its simply just a free meal, get a life, mid fifty y/o too afraid to show her face So my hubby was hoping to make it a nice night for us 2 and another starting with a meal that's sounds really selfish doesn't it ??? Jensta, naturally it's about mutual attraction for all.. Der !! Thx to those who at least attempted to see things from my mans perspective. 25 years together does not a selfish man make.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'jensta' Usually this senario is a fantasy of the Male ... If the woman are Straight why the hell would they want this senario ? I see this as a Selfish fantasy ... Man wants 2 woman to ravish him ... His partner goes along with it ... other Woman being used nothing Special here for Her ... Probably to please her partner,let him fulfil his Fantasy.Is that so hard to fathom???Probably in the same way he would love her to be pleased in a MFM situation. Couples will often go out of there way for each other,it's not about being SELFISH its about being generous .So many Feminist on here typing with there chests out claiming that sex is all about them .Let's not forget the opportunist single males that write comments leaning on the side of the Alpha Female hoping that in return they will strike up a relationship and get his fuck on.To many Keyboard Warriors on this site for me, i for one won't be renewing my membership.I feel you cutecouple4us ,but there's no use arguing or reasoning with some of these wankers who live such boring live's that they paint a picture of themselves on the web that intact does not resemble them in any way what so ever........rant over.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'TongueCramps' In our threesome experiences so far, the third person joining us has always been the one given the most attention - we ENJOY getting someone else off. We can get each other off ant time we want. So girls, if you're being left out as the third wheel in a threesome, whether its a straight or bi scenario, you're playing with the wrong couples! If it's a straight FMF, then how can the guest be the centre of attention if the women don't interact sexually? I'm not saying you don't have options and that it can't be rewarding in other ways, but that just struck me as odd.There's nothing wrong with having this fantasy of course, and especially nothing wrong with trying to fulfil it, but there's a difference between saying "we have this fantasy, and wonder why we're having difficulty fulfilling it" and "everybody else should want to fulfill it with us, and are selfish because they don't."

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'TongueCramps' Quoting 'Krissy_G' Because she didnt want me to feel left out. We chatted afterwoods and queried whether it would be me being fucked if I had slept in the middle. The dynamics of threesomes are soo facinating. Personally being single its not something that I could really appreciate unless the attentionwas shown to one person by both of us.   Just my thoughts. xxYep, we agree Krissy, the dynamics of threesomes are fascinating. And they can go wrong, be average, or they can be wonderful. As they can be in any encounter of any dynamic on here. Which is why we find some of the other comments on here a bit perplexing - the ones along the lines of "what's in it for her?" & "why that dynamic when I can get that and more elsewhere?" Unless you know the person/s well, you don't know what you're going to get. Isn't that half the fun? Perhaps in this scenario a girl may not be the centre of attention, but they may share an experience with a couple who have been fantasising about it for years, and have a wonderful time. We'd argue that while a very large component of good sex is your own physical pleasure, if it's only about how many orgasms you have and how long you get fucked for, you're probably missing out. .... most who have experienced a 'works' burger will choose that over a plain cheese burger any day of the week. Fair enough i guess, the options are endless in this RHP restaurant, it's a natural progression. Having said that, if the bloke over the road made an even better hamburger.... i'm sure most will give the works burger a miss and move on.... and so on.Nice comments you and krissy have made.... if a big part of sex is in the mind, i'm sure there are some wonderful dynamics that can be had with the right people, even if the 'play' options are limited.... sharing the experience of someone else's fantasy i find very sexy... ... and very giving too.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'chocolatebaby'So many Feminist on here typing with there chests out claiming that sex is all about them .Let's not forget the opportunist single males that write comments leaning on the side of the Alpha Female hoping that in return they will strike up a relationship and get his fuck on. What's feminism got to do with anything here?! I think you'll find that's got pretty much nothing to do with it. I get annoyed when I see 'feminist' used as an insult.To the topic though, I happen to agree with you that a straight FMF is something that couples can enjoy together and get different things out of, and that the guest can enjoy it as well. There's nothing inherently selfish about it.However, I also agree with the majority that say it has limited appeal to the relatively few women on here. Like you, they're looking to fulfill their own fantasies, and it's rarer to find women interested in what's being offered here, especially on this site. I also agree with those saying there are better places to make these sorts of arrangements than Red Hot Pie, and you'll probably have more luck at a party or a club.So I guess in summary... I'm an obsequious toady who agrees with everyone?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Thank you to all who have commented good and bad. We aren't here to big people, we are here for fun and no one repeat no one is asking to be "the centre of attention". We "the both of us" simply want the experience and don't see anything wrong with it. With the attitudes of some clearly and steadfastly being enforced over the whole discussion, we both smile in the knowledge that those same people "in years to come" will still remain as "single and looking". Twenty five awesome years together for "US AS A LOVING COUPLE", will only get better and better. Just like most nights, we will soak in our spa together sipping a bevvy or two, kissing and cuddling and wonder NOT what it is like to be ALL KNOWING from a high deserted perch of loneliness. Spooning together in bed will follow, warm and snug. We may not be given our opportunity in this life, but a cold bed together we shall share no. J and the blue eyed one.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'chocolatebaby' Quoting 'jensta' Usually this senario is a fantasy of the Male ... If the woman are Straight why the hell would they want this senario ? I see this as a Selfish fantasy ... Man wants 2 woman to ravish him ... His partner goes along with it ... other Woman being used nothing Special here for Her ... Probably to please her partner,let him fulfil his Fantasy.Is that so hard to fathom??? Probably in the same way he would love her to be pleased in a MFM situation. Couples will often go out of there way for each other,it's not about being SELFISH its about being generous . So many Feminist on here typing with there chests out claiming that sex is all about them .Let's not forget the opportunist single males that write comments leaning on the side of the Alpha Female hoping that in return they will strike up a relationship and get his fuck on. To many Keyboard Warriors on this site for me, i for one won't be renewing my membership. I feel you cutecouple4us ,but there's no use arguing or reasoning with some of these wankers who live such boring live's that they paint a picture of themselves on the web that intact does not resemble them in any way what so ever........rant over.COULD. NOT. HAVE. SAID. THIS. ANY. BETTER.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'neptune_drift' Quoting 'TongueCramps'In our threesome experiences so far, the third person joining us has always been the one given the most attention - we ENJOY getting someone else off. We can get each other off ant time we want. So girls, if you're being left out as the third wheel in a threesome, whether its a straight or bi scenario, you're playing with the wrong couples! If it's a straight FMF, then how can the guest be the centre of attention if the women don't interact sexually? I'm not saying you don't have options and that it can't be rewarding in other ways, but that just struck me as odd. There's nothing wrong with having this fantasy of course, and especially nothing wrong with trying to fulfil it, but there's a difference between saying "we have this fantasy, and wonder why we're having difficulty fulfilling it" and "everybody else should want to fulfill it with us, and are selfish because they don't." A few points in reply. Firstly, if we're going to analyse that closely and play with semantics then let's do so. We said in OUR threesomes, the other person has been given the most attention - quite easy seeing as ours have been bi FFM. We then made the point that in whatever scenario, if the extra girl was being "LEFT OUT" then they were playing with the wrong couples. Semantic debate finished. What was actually quite clear, and even clearer if you read our other posts also, was that we were making the point that not being the complete centre of attention in a physical sense does not equal a boring or unfulfilling experience for a girl joining a couple. Or anyone in any other scenario for that matter. As quite a few other posts from both couples and girls have affirmed. being involved in someone's fantasy, or giving pleasure to others can be extremely satisfying. And we'd just like to add, if the only way you can pay attention to someone is through direct sexual interaction, then you're not being very imaginative. To continue, your second paragraph - the point you attribute to the OP in your last sentence we don't feel was ever implied by them. They got upset at being told they were selfish for having a particular fantasy. And then implied that the general attitude of a few who responded was selfish - with which we and quite a few others seem to wholeheartedly agree.

  • JessicaRabbit

    JessicaRabbit

    14 years ago

    MFFs for me are more about the woman. If a woman isn't really 'into' me then I'd feel like i'm forcing myself on her. Not good.I'm also always conscious of 'stepping on toes' too. I don't like the woman to feel like i'm there just to have my way with her partner. If I was doing it just for the man then i'd just have one-on-one sex. Or if I wanted the numbers, i'd have an MMF.   Dida   xx

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    14 years ago

    I sure as hell ... wouldn't again ... He is always going to give more to his love .... or she will become insecure .... Before everyone Jumps up & down ...I speak from Experience ... been on both ends ... a part of a couple and as a single woman ... Yes everyone has a right to Experience Fantasy can become reality Just remember Single girls ... playing with a couple Is not about you ....

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'DidacticTactics' MFFs for me are more about the woman. If a woman isn't really 'into' me then I'd feel like i'm forcing myself on her. Not good.I'm also always conscious of 'stepping on toes' too. I don't like the woman to feel like i'm there just to have my way with her partner. If I was doing it just for the man then i'd just have one-on-one sex. Or if I wanted the numbers, i'd have an MMF.   Dida   xxNo offense here Dida, simply an observation...........Ready for it..............." I I I I I I I " Shouldn't "any" threesome involve or more to the point be about "US" as in "ALL THREE INVOLVED"

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    14 years ago

    JENSTA, another observation re your last bit of "input". Your listing is "straight" You made the point that you have been involved in said FMF both from a couples perspective and that of a single woman also.So a natural assumption comes in to play here given your "status" as a "straight" woman a question arises.Whilst you were with your male partner at the time you formed one half of a couple, would we and ALL who read here that your partner was simply a "selfish" man. In addition, seeing you went along for the ride in said FMF, was it before or after the event you formed the opinion that the "other" woman was simply just going to be "used" as you "YOURSELF" so eloquently put it ??? Just thought we'd put something else out there for all to be aware of:My loving wife would have it "NO OTHER WAY" but for this male, to show "any woman" who chose to share in "an experience" with us every bit as much passion during the "experience" as I would show my lovely. My loving blue eyed lady would be most disappointed in me for offering the "other" anything less than she would expect herself. Frankly, how could I possibly live with myself as a man, if I was to treat someone we believed to be "lovingly" sharing in such an experience with us badly ???When you finally do find a life companion Jensta, we hope he chooses to ask yourself for the same fantasy only to be stonewalled by the "jensta" for "DARING TO DREAM"

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    14 years ago

    TongueCramps,Thanks guys, you both have yourselves a ripper day.j and h

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'TongueCramps' A few points in reply. Firstly, if we're going to analyse that closely and play with semantics then let's do so. We said in OUR threesomes, the other person has been given the most attention - quite easy seeing as ours have been bi FFM. We then made the point that in whatever scenario, if the extra girl was being "LEFT OUT" then they were playing with the wrong couples. Semantic debate finished. What was actually quite clear, and even clearer if you read our other posts also, was that we were making the point that not being the complete centre of attention in a physical sense does not equal a boring or unfulfilling experience for a girl joining a couple. Or anyone in any other scenario for that matter. As quite a few other posts from both couples and girls have affirmed. being involved in someone's fantasy, or giving pleasure to others can be extremely satisfying. And we'd just like to add, if the only way you can pay attention to someone is through direct sexual interaction, then you're not being very imaginative. To continue, your second paragraph - the point you attribute to the OP in your last sentence we don't feel was ever implied by them. They got upset at being told they were selfish for having a particular fantasy. And then implied that the general attitude of a few who responded was selfish - with which we and quite a few others seem to wholeheartedly agree. Sure, I was combining your two statements, and assuming a connection between them. Since we're not discussing bi-FFM, I assumed you were referring to straight FMFs. That wasn't your intention though, so I'll give you that one.I agree with you that it can be fulfilling for the extra woman, and there is great pleasure in participating in other people's fantasies, so I'll give you that one too! But as fulfilling as other options available to her?We then start to differ. I think.And we'd just like to add, if the only way you can pay attention to someone is through direct sexual interaction, then you're not being very imaginative. Well, sure, but I find that a bit odd, you know... when you're having sex? I don't know. Do straight women massage each other during straight FMFs? Do they kiss shoulders or fondle breasts? I suppose it's the fact that you have to ask these questions that makes me wonder what's the appeal for your typical straight woman, beyond "fulfilling someone else's desire"? Maybe if you like to watch, or be watched? And yep, you get to fulfill someone's fantasy. But are you fulfilling yours? If you're not sexually aroused by the other woman, I genuinely don't see what the appeal of sharing a man would be, when you could get the same, and more, from another kind of arrangement.your second paragraph - the point you attribute to the OP in your last sentence we don't feel was ever implied by them. They got upset at being told they were selfish for having a particular fantasy. And then implied that the general attitude of a few who responded was selfish - with which we and quite a few others seem to wholeheartedly agree. This one I'm half and half. I probably have misread the OP's comments. I agree with you and the OP that wanting to find a straight F to fulfill their fantasies is not selfish at all. But I don't think people asking "what's in it for her?" is selfish in response. When two (or more!) parties meet up on this site, it's usually because both parties are fulfilling a desire. It comes down to the fact that I, like the majority of others here, don't understand why a girl would want to join a straight couple when she could join a bi couple, or a male, or a few males, and EVERYBODY fulfills their fantasies?And evidently, a majority of members on RHP feel the same, hence the OP?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Not normally one to comment on topics, but read them regularly (how I would love to say “long time listener, first time caller” but I digress….) I suffer from a few chronic conditions which have led me to a site like RHP, the first being I am a people watcher, secondly I am a people pleaser, and third (I think we all suffer) I am horny….. this leads me to a situation of “perfect storm” if you will. I love interactions with people, singles, couples and groups as I get to feed all three of my afflictions. I love to watch the interactions between couples, both in their profiles, their messages, their forum activity and when (if) we meet up in person. I also love to attend private parties and swingers clubs and put this people watching to work. I wished for my ex to consent to extras joining us in sex but was not given the opportunity, so I relish watching how various couples make this fantasy “work” for them. This being said, very regularly my people pleasing is quickly called into play and I know I am certainly one of the people where sex is genuinely more about the other person or persons I am with than myself (let’s not get into issues of my self-esteem here… that’s dangerous). Now to the third point of this triangle…. HORNY….. as a horny, sexual, single woman (not UNattractive) I have had the opportunity to partake in much fun through RHP, not limited to MF, FF, MFM, FMF, FMMMMMMM, FMFMFM etc etc….. in my several FMF they have been either fully bi, not bi at all or just a bit of “whatever goes” (enough background on me) I shall now explain where I think YOUR specific problem lies OP…. (fully aware I am likely to cop hell from you both on this)   I 100% agree with all the single women who say “why would we bother”… without being nasty, no, the male in your couple is not particularly more attractive than hundreds of single men on this site and the female isn’t bi, possibly not bi-curious, and we DO NOT KNOW HER WISHES OR LIMITS as you do not wish to share them with “all and sundry” (your quote) so we would be unsure what if any issues may arise of boundaries. I think your specific problem is YOUR ATTITUDE, you have been extraordinarily rude and dismissive of the majority of comments, attacking people with comments such as “seems rather selfish” of single women to want it to be about them, whilst simultaneously attacking people who call you selfish, you have thrown the venom to “diadactictactic” who dared used the pronoun “I” (um excuse me, I think she was just voicing HER opinion, as did you in the opening topic question and throughout where you use “I” and “WE” regularly…. Just because she is a single women, she isn’t permitted to use “I” under your rules?!?!?!?!) and in general if someone was not sympathetic to you or your point of view you have shot down what they had to say without listening. If I am honest I would get to that stage of texting you on the day of a meet to cancel simply because your “negative nelly” attitude made it clear you EXPECT this to fail, and surely it will because your expectations are too high.   Take some advice, stop pushing, stop wondering where all the compliant, single (non-bi) girls are and get out there and meet people with a fun, flirty attitude and see how that goes….

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Maybe the easiest way to answer this is to turn the question back to Mrs cutecouples4us - if the situation was reversed and you were the single woman, it something you'd be drawn to pursuing with another couple? That might hold your answer.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Now I shall go further to say I LOVE to be me (as a single woman) with a couple…. I really enjoy it whether the girl is bi or not, and enjoy it more than finding two singles to play with – because of that people watching and the interactions I get to witness. But in my six months on this site lately I have become wary of the couple+me scenario…. The majority of the time everything is great, I have been approached several times by the M or the F or the couple to “fulfil a fantasy” for the partner, and this is AWESOME, role play is a fav of mine and I have done some great things including “picking up an unsuspecting partner at a bar”, as well as “joining a couple in play where one partner was cuffed and blindfolded and unaware I was coming” all awesome…. BUT couples do often present problems. I have been involved with couples where someone has “freaked out” during the play…. Very awkward for me (couples need to have their shit together before jumping into this lifestyle) and in MANY cases after the threesome is done I am approached by Mr and asked for some “on the side” play which makes me very uncomfortable…. So with all this in mind as well as the added issues of needing to be attracted to TWO people and them BOTH attracted to me, jumping into a situation with a couple is something I need to do selectively….. (gosh I think I gave you all about $4.76 worth!!!)

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    14 years ago

    Perhaps an extract out of our profile may may be worth posting as it appears quite a few have simply thrown their two cents in without even bothering so much as to read our profile: Extract: "We have met some very sexy couples and played, occasionally she mixed it a little with the other woman but only those who considered it a bonus, not those who consider it a rule…." For three years we have received messages from women all "claiming" to be "bisexual or bi-curious" By definition to be "bisexual" as "WE" understand it to mean is; One who enjoys sexually interacting with "BOTH" males and females alike. "Bi-curious" by our definition is one who is predominantly in to males but has "curiosities about playing with a female" Why is it then such a problem for a woman who is attracted to both males and females to sexually interact with "this male" but in the company of his blue eyed girl who wishes to enjoy the moment with her husband ??? Where my lovely has had many a personal complaint or rather dislikes, is messages from those claiming an interest in meeting "US" due "solely" to their interest in "Her and Her alone" whilst openly neglecting to mention anything whatsoever about yours truly. Perhaps I am unappealing or ugly to 99% of RHP, who knows, maybe I am but my pictures I will hide not ?? This black duck is not particularly fazed one way or the other if rhp'ers dislike his appearance. I do ok, not trying to blow wind up my own ass here but I get looks "outside this site" just like most of you do. The good wife did not giggle and call me a slut whilst while driving home from debauchery for "no apparent reason" when we first attended that remarkable establishment. We have done the "party scene" so to speak, but something privately shared is a lot more inviting to us both.

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    14 years ago

    My profile has also said bi in the past ... My Man is & was not selfish at all ... Infact in our 3sums us girls played ... HOT We had a couples profile ... dark&blondie I have had more than one fmf experience ... So do not be mistaken Its the Straight ones that ... don't work that well ...

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quote .... When you finally do find a life companion Jensta, we hope he chooses to ask yourself for the same fantasy only to be stonewalled by the "jensta" for "DARING TO DREAM"What a Dumb thing to say ...You can't cope ... that I do not say what you wanted to hear ... I am not telling you not to follow and experience your fantasy I am just telling you how it was for me Guess What ... I too have Experienced a 23 yr marriage lmfao Just remember here ... that you do not know me only the small comments I have written ... Putting up a question on the forum is asking for opinions and others to share their experiences we all different ... thats what makes the world go around I am not new to the forums ... just had a break ...

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'cutecouples4us'  Perhaps an extract out of our profile may may be worth posting as it appears quite a few have simply thrown their two cents in without even bothering so much as to read our profile: Extract: "We have met some very sexy couples and played, occasionally she mixed it a little with the other woman but only those who considered it a bonus, not those who consider it a rule…." For three years we have received messages from women all "claiming" to be "bisexual or bi-curious" By definition to be "bisexual" as "WE" understand it to mean is; One who enjoys sexually interacting with "BOTH" males and females alike. "Bi-curious" by our definition is one who is predominantly in to males but has "curiosities about playing with a female" Why is it then such a problem for a woman who is attracted to both males and females to sexually interact with "this male" but in the company of his blue eyed girl who wishes to enjoy the moment with her husband ??? Where my lovely has had many a personal complaint or rather dislikes, is messages from those claiming an interest in meeting "US" due "solely" to their interest in "Her and Her alone" whilst openly neglecting to mention anything whatsoever about yours truly. Perhaps I am unappealing or ugly to 99% of RHP, who knows, maybe I am but my pictures I will hide not ?? This black duck is not particularly fazed one way or the other if rhp'ers dislike his appearance. I do ok, not trying to blow wind up my own ass here but I get looks "outside this site" just like most of you do. The good wife did not giggle and call me a slut whilst while driving home from debauchery for "no apparent reason" when we first attended that remarkable establishment. We have done the "party scene" so to speak, but something privately shared is a lot more inviting to us both. I, for one, DID read your profile, and this is precisely where I found your negative attitude begins (and this forum topic of course it is laid in spades) THERE ARE GENUINE SINGLE WOMEN on this site! Sure….. we are just as frustrated as the rest of the users when coming across a “single” girl profile which is either a man faking or a couple hiding their intentions under the guise of “single girl looking for someone to help me give my man his fantasy” Lord knows if you wanted to be cheap but still have access to webcam and flirts the “single female” profile is the way for a couple to go…… but those genuine single girls on here do not like the snide and snarky comments and the constant questioning of us. (I provide validations which prove I am who I say I am, I don’t appreciate always being asked to further clarify). Also, MY tips on your profile if you are interested…. (from a single girl who WANTS TO PLAY WITH COUPLES, which is what you say you want – so take them or leave them) *ditch the reference to play with a particular couple (first line) it smacks of you not being very discrete. *be more positive and upbeat * if you are after a single girl and intend for it to be about the :pleasure of THREE”, not of the “him with two adoring women” fantasy – SAY so. *be very clear on your limits and boundaries without moaning or belittling the choices of others *lose the “prove us wrong we dare you” that is condescending and outright critical *make the “what we want” section about OTHER PEOPLE, you had your say in “about us” now talk about someone else for a change!As I said, take it or leave it, although if I am correct about you, you will ignore anything that doesn't fit into your preconceptions.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'jensta' My profile has also said bi in the past ... My Man is & was not selfish at all ... Infact in our 3sums us girls played ... HOT We had a couples profile ... dark&blondie I have had more than one fmf experience ... So do not be mistaken Its the Straight ones that ... don't work that well ...Mrs like yourself Jensta, has had varying changes to her "status" but all to no avail. People rarely look beyond a picture and simply make an assumption befitting what they themselves want to believe...Who is to say, like ours, your profile is a little vague and ever changing from str8 to experimental but her biggest issue is being seen as the sole focus of another woman while her man is basically ignored, "her words"Can't say we remember the last time we had an offer of MFM from a single male but with commentary like "God HE is hot, wow HE is so gorgeous can the three of us hook up and play" Needless to say, as the male who likes to see his lady pleasured by a cute male, a message like this would not often be received well but these kinds of messages are quite common from women to us but with the "niceties directed at our lady instead"ProfileDeletedGuilty your honour, all taken on board. Mostly borne out of pure frustration.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Krissy_G' Mees Im Bi, well multi actually, but sometimes theres the desire just to be fucked. Ide much rather have a couple that I could see where the fem just enjoyed watching her partner satisfy the needs of what I wanted without expecting me to return anything to her. Its a lot safer doing it like that than going for a random fuck in the park. Sex has dynamics. Yep Its about me. Wow Krissy hehe, many a rellie be had in perth, nic'ish whether too, such a nice place....... "we both miss and love so much" Lol, never said I wan't a cheeky young man..

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    14 years ago

    OP as to why you can't accept other peoples opinions.Not their advice ,just their opinions . In some instances, considerable experience was informing those opinions You did ask a question,why is it so difficult to find a woman on RHP to join you and your partner in a straight threesome and people have taken the time to respond with some fairly reasonable answers, most of which because they were unpalatable to you,you have dismissed . x Hugs H

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    I would have to say that the easiest solution to your problems would be a couple who have fantasies of their own to enact, which don't involve any bi activity, the other guy may want the same fantasy as you guys, so you and his lady can also indulge him that. You guys have participated in MFM before and are okay with that, so can do that with another couple who also seek same for their lady, and anyway I'm sure you get the picture, looks to be one hell of a night, or a few good nights spent realising each individual fantasy. Just need to find the right couple is all, probably easier than looking for the elusive straight single woman.   Best of luck, and hope you eventually find what it is you seek... agreed, don't give up on your dreams.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'jensta'I sure as hell ... wouldn't again ... He is always going to give more to his love .... or she will become insecure .... Before everyone Jumps up & down ... I speak from Experience ... been on both ends ... a part of a couple and as a single woman ... Yes everyone has a right to Experience Fantasy can become reality Just remember Single girls ... playing with a couple Is not about you .... You're missing the point....again. The situation you describe above is not always the case, as several have stated. And as ourselves and several others have explained, even if it is, so what? Plenty of people enjoy helping others with a fantasy, and find satisfaction in pleasing others. Apparently just not you. Which is fine, thats your choice. But in our opinion, rather a sad one.

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    14 years ago

    We thinks this forum has all gone a bit too far now! lol. Lets all take a deep breath, then fuck the nearest person! hehe

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Saskia72' I would have to say that the easiest solution to your problems would be a couple who have fantasies of their own to enact, which don't involve any bi activity, the other guy may want the same fantasy as you guys, so you and his lady can also indulge him that. You guys have participated in MFM before and are okay with that, so can do that with another couple who also seek same for their lady, and anyway I'm sure you get the picture, looks to be one hell of a night, or a few good nights spent realising each individual fantasy. Just need to find the right couple is all, probably easier than looking for the elusive straight single woman.   Best of luck, and hope you eventually find what it is you seek... agreed, don't give up on your dreams.Thanks hon, that couple already know who they are as do we. And yeah, won't be giving up either, whats the point otherwise..

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    14 years ago

    All I got to say to you is Crap ... LMFAO ... I don't settle for second best ... By the way I always Please my lovers ... How dare you Question that ... You have made this Personal ...

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    14 years ago

    I just wanted to add, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being the centre of attention. Someone often is in a threesome... That's what so good about them. Well, particularly when you take turns :)

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    because women are egotistical, narcissistic, self-centred, evil creatures and believe that it is ALL about pleasing the woman in bed and that men can't do a proper job of pleasing two of them at once so they have to make sure the job is done properly and take matters into their own tongues...not that we mind...

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'jensta' All I got to say to you is Crap ... LMFAO ... I don't settle for second best ... By the way I always Please my lovers ... How dare you Question that ... You have made this Personal ... What the? Again, our point was that the scenario described does not necessarily equate to "second best" for anyone involved, that for some people assisting someone else in living out a fantasy and sharing an experience is an enjoyable experience in itself. As we have now stated OVER AND OVER. And we never questioned whether or not you please your lovers - learn to read. What we question is your ability to understand that you can enjoy an experience that is not "all about you". And your statements above demonstrate exactly that. And no, we did not make this personal - that was done long before we entered this discussion. And we are now going to leave this discussion - banging one's head against a brick wall serves no useful purpose other than to bring on a headache.....

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    14 years ago

    Personally, they seem highly overrated. I haven't reached the point at which I'm so bored or 100% perfect with one dick that I want the additional challenge oanother set of genitalia, male or female. HOWEVER, selfish bitch that I am, I would love it if a bi male or female would be an assistant. Would I be open for a fmf? As a guest though my heteroflexible tendencies end with kissing and touching. If it's any indication of my sexual interest in women, I've kissed more transvestites and MtF transsexuals than I have women.

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    14 years ago

    Way better offers out there for a single woman ... Straight away in this senario ... you know shes doing it for her partners fantasy ... and thats ok been there done that ... but for me all 3 in a 3 sum must want it ... with passion When I say want ... I mean to even get horny at the thought If thats not happening ... there is just no point ... for the Single Woman ... See it for what it is ... Of course it is looked at different from the couple desparately wanting a single woman ... for his fantasy As suggested here ... You's are best to go to a swingers party looking for Single Woman here that would want this Is like finding a needle in a hay stack ...

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    14 years ago

    It is so obvious ... you are the Male half Can't handle an Honest Female that has a different opinion You need to stop making smart arse comments I can read ... how dare you ... I do not like your charactorHave you ever tried to look at it from a Single womans point of Veiw I would guess NOT ... Would you be happy with your Sister/cousin to do this favour for a total strange couple ? Would you tell them its not all about them and they should help with strangers fantasies Cause thats what you been saying here ...

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    14 years ago

    Woman do have choice who they are Intimate with Everyone seems to be forgeting that ... it is our bodies & our lives we have the right to make our own choices without being questioned I am a strong confident Woman ... I know what I want I know what I like ... I know I do not like ... what is expected of Woman Here ...

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'jensta' Woman do have choice who they are Intimate with Everyone seems to be forgeting that ... it is our bodies & our lives we have the right to make our own choices without being questioned I am a strong confident Woman ... I know what I want I know what I like ... I know I do not like ... what is expected of Woman Here ... "Everyone" now, if people need to feel viscousness towards someone on here, please..."aim it squarely at me", not at others. If anyone is to blame it is I (jason)......I'm guilty........Of wanting some fun with another and my wife without another male around. Sorry, it is my fantasy !!"Mrs".........I am not sorry and you are correct, it is HIS fantasy, he is human after all.......Do I want it with him.......ABSOLUTELY. Has he done likewise for me..........YES HE HAS................Do I have a problem seeing him with another woman, lol, not likely, I've seen it before.....Is he selfish, NO.......anyone who knows him knows otherwise.OUR CRIME................."MRS" .....(I like men much more than women) Advice taken from some......profile changed..........sorry we asked.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'decibels' Quoting 'jensta'Have you ever tried to look at it from a Single womans point of Veiw I would guess NOT ... Would you be happy with your Sister/cousin to do this favour for a total strange couple ? Would you tell them its not all about them and they should help with strangers fantasies Cause thats what you been saying here ... No even better still, ask them to want this of their daughters, we can only presume both couples have kids. Listen to them saying its not about us and that we are selfish, Im sure theyre not telling their daughters this and would expect any man to treat their daughters like a princess and to worship her! I treat people the way I want to be treated and thats with respect. I dont let boys talk down to me as I wouldnt want my son doing that to any woman and vice versa. Its a double standard for people on here though. Quoting 'jensta'Woman do have choice who they are Intimate with Everyone seems to be forgeting that ... it is our bodies & our lives we have the right to make our own choices without being questioned I am a strong confident Woman ... I know what I want I know what I like ... I know I do not like ... what is expected of Woman Here ...Because they think its a candy store or a shopping catalogue and when they cant get what they want they whinge and moan and complain about all the so called time wasters on here. Oh my heart pines for all the poor souls on here who cant get what they want when they want and how they want it. Wake up people, nothings guaranteed on here or in the real world. And so much for tongue cramps profile where the female of the two is the submissive one and they only want women, again all for the man and his fantasy. Go get another man for the female to play with and make it all about her. Whats with these couples who only want another woman to play with, no men allowed, men piss off blah blah? Wtf are u married to a man for then? We as a general rule, treat people with respect. BTW, who said we have never allowed another male in to the picture for the exact purpose of MFM ?? Quite unselfishly my hubby was happy to indulge the extra "bit" I required for my particular fantasy. Maybe that was selfish of me, some how I don't think either of them missed out. Amazingly enough, the guys never required male male play for it to take place, imagine that !!

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'decibels' And so much for tongue cramps profile where the female of the two is the submissive one and they only want women, again all for the man and his fantasy. Go get another man for the female to play with and make it all about her. Whats with these couples who only want another woman to play with, no men allowed, men piss off blah blah? Wtf are u married to a man for then?Seriously now, a valid question arises here with regard to this particular point you mentioned re it being "all for the man and his fantasy". To some that may indeed on the surface sound exactly like you assume it is. But have a real good look around the sites and see just how many "single women's" profiles are looking to "sub" to a fella, there are indeed quite a lot. Don't imagine you have ever ventured anywhere near the "bdsm" lifestyle so make no judgment re your choice either way. Some of them, the sub ladies also as part of "THEIR" desire to play the sub "HAPPILY" like to include an extra sub who by chance may ALSO like the idea of subbing with another sub. It may not agree with your own preconceived ideals but that does not make it wrong, it's simply another's choice. Simply food for thought, many a stran does the web of life make !!

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    14 years ago

    I indeed agree that it seems time this thread end. A question was asked, many opinions put forth, but far too much insult and nastiness. Human nature is not always a pretty thing.   I for one never disagreed with what you were asking, but more the somewhat negative feeling I sensed behind the question, but clearly this was borne from your (understandable) frustration.   As mentioned, I feel very lucky that my time on RHP has rewarded me with the opportunity to fulfil many of my own fantasies, and as a result there was a time where my own profile actually was me being upfront that having ticked off my own "fucket list" through generous friends with benefits, I literally wanted to “pay it forward”….. I put the paragraph "tell me your greatest desire and let me help you fulfil it, tell me your dirtiest wish and let me be your naughty genie and grant it, tell me your fantasy and I will make it come true" …… as mentioned I was approached by several people and did just that, I put aside the "me' and was a part of what they wanted and needed and found it very fulfilling, for myself it was about seeing how excited the chance to live a fantasy can be for others.   So OP, don’t give up, but like I said before, stop pushing for it, enjoy each other, enjoy your journey, be out there having fun and flirting so that when this right person comes along you will both seem a very appealing and attractive option to her.   PS, the new profile reads (to me) as far more upbeat, confident and comfortable….. I wish you both luck!XPD

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'ProfileDeleted' I indeed agree that it seems time this thread end. A question was asked, many opinions put forth, but far too much insult and nastiness. Human nature is not always a pretty thing.   I for one never disagreed with what you were asking, but more the somewhat negative feeling I sensed behind the question, but clearly this was borne from your (understandable) frustration.   As mentioned, I feel very lucky that my time on RHP has rewarded me with the opportunity to fulfil many of my own fantasies, and as a result there was a time where my own profile actually was me being upfront that having ticked off my own "fucket list" through generous friends with benefits, I literally wanted to “pay it forward”….. I put the paragraph "tell me your greatest desire and let me help you fulfil it, tell me your dirtiest wish and let me be your naughty genie and grant it, tell me your fantasy and I will make it come true" …… as mentioned I was approached by several people and did just that, I put aside the "me' and was a part of what they wanted and needed and found it very fulfilling, for myself it was about seeing how excited the chance to live a fantasy can be for others.   So OP, don’t give up, but like I said before, stop pushing for it, enjoy each other, enjoy your journey, be out there having fun and flirting so that when this right person comes along you will both seem a very appealing and attractive option to her.   PS, the new profile reads (to me) as far more upbeat, confident and comfortable….. I wish you both luck!XPDProfileDeleted' Thanks hon, despite your good intentions which was easy to see we have now chosen a path a little different than the one we thought was feasible and fair but having seen things in a different light we are opting for a different path, despite the judgements of others our intentions were and are completely honourable. Do appreciate your honesty with regards to your assessment of our profile, one does learn from the errors of our ways. At the end of the day, the only person this man needs happy is his blue eyed wonder. With all the lovely looking women on this site, some lonely, others horny, others drifting with hope of finding the one, the one who truly holds meaning to me is the one I joined with......my darling. So easy to lose sight, I'm but a man with a mans desires, I'm no better nor different from the bloke down the road, I am jason from Hillside.

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'decibels' Quoting 'cutecouples4us' Quoting 'decibels' And so much for tongue cramps profile where the female of the two is the submissive one and they only want women, again all for the man and his fantasy. Go get another man for the female to play with and make it all about her. Whats with these couples who only want another woman to play with, no men allowed, men piss off blah blah? Wtf are u married to a man for then?Seriously now, a valid question arises here with regard to this particular point you mentioned re it being "all for the man and his fantasy". To some that may indeed on the surface sound exactly like you assume it is. But have a real good look around the sites and see just how many "single women's" profiles are looking to "sub" to a fella, there are indeed quite a lot. Don't imagine you have ever ventured anywhere near the "bdsm" lifestyle so make no judgment re your choice either way. Some of them, the sub ladies also as part of "THEIR" desire to play the sub "HAPPILY" like to include an extra sub who by chance may ALSO like the idea of subbing with another sub. It may not agree with your own preconceived ideals but that does not make it wrong, it's simply another's choice. Simply food for thought, many a stran does the web of life make !! Well stop calling us selfish and desperate and lonely then. Youre the one saying were all closet lesbians and now youre telling us theyres so many sub women on here. Yeah maybe its all for the man, maybe the woman gets pleasure out of it too, people get pleasure in all forms so who am I to judge? Its their choice, same as its our choice not to play with couples if theyres nothing much in it for us. And so many subs subbing on subs, god how confusing really Tongue craps merely got a tongue lashing from me for being so superior and trying to put people down. Maybe hed like us all to get back in our box and come out to play when he says so. I dont care what people do, they can sub and dom all they like, they can do couples, they can do whatever they like but dont come on here calling us all lesbians because we dont want to play with just the male half of these couples. God it would have to be brad pitt and angelina jolie to get me to partake in a threesome, not some average couple from the burbs in hillside. REALLY OVE R THE SLANGING PART, IT'S JUST NOT IN MY NATURE, PARTICULARLY TO STOOP TO THAT LEVEL WITH A WOMAN.. WILL TRY AND END THE THREAD HERE AND NOW THOUGH WITH THIS PARTING WORDS. "ANGELINA OR BRAD PITT FROM HILLSIDE WE ARE NOT !!1 AVERAGE COUPLE FROM HILLSIDE WE ARE. OUR PICTURES ARE ON DISPLAY THOUGH FOR ALL TO SEE, LIKE THEM OR NOT, IT IS WHO WE ARE. IT'S PLAIN FOR ALL TO SEE WHO WE ARE, WE HIDE BEHIND NO WALL OF GLASS, NOR WALL OF STONE. THERE IS SHAME NOT IN THE LIFE WE HAVE CHOSEN, FOR IT IS BUT OUR LIFE AND NOT YOURS TO JUDGE. YOU MAY CAST YOUR STONE OR EVEN A BARRAGE, BUT REPEATING AGAIN IT IS OUR LIFE AND WE'LL LIVE IT LARGE. TOGETHER PREFERRED IS THE WAY WE LIKE IT, YOU MAY BELIEVE WE HAVE SINNED FOR ASKING SOME QUESTIONS THAT PLAGUE US TO THIS DAY. WE WISH YOU GOOD LUCK DESPITE WHAT YOU THINK, WE ARE SIMPLY JASON AND HIS HEATHER LYNNE....

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    13 years ago

    If to fulfill your fantasy you would like 2 women. then why not couples? That way she gets 1-2 guys, you get 1-2 women. I did notice your profile suggests you are looking for couples and not singles at all (maybe you have changed this)

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    13 years ago

    Arrogant Male half of the Couple ... Tongue_CrapsYou know What ... Not all us Woman are SubmissiveSome of us ... have lots of Self confidence and know what we want And Know what we Deserve ... Do you think we on RHP just for others fantasies ? Are you for Real? You need to open your Selfish Eyes ... It is time that Tongue of yours to literally Cramps ... cause I don't want to hear any more of your comments ... Hey Single Ladies ... lets go get the Sexy single Guys ... :P

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    13 years ago

    I played as a single girl with couples for a while before meeting Mr Otori and it was always, for me, about playing with the girl as much as the guy. I wouldn't be interested if the girl was straight because it'd be a bit boring not getting to play with ALL the delights on offer. I'd think you would be better off seeking similar couples and engaging in same room fun, a slightly compromised fantasy, but you'd still get the opportunity to have two gals at once for a little while. Just think of the combinations you could get yourselves in.

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    13 years ago

    MMM ... Watch out here we cum ... where we going? ... or allow me to make the plans you will have the best time ... I promise you that :P

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    13 years ago

    Success is doing what you want,where you want,when you want,with who you want,as much as you want - Tony Robbins.I reckon Tony could organise a very nice FMF tout sweet. And the two Femmes would be more than happy about it.In my experience, a 3sum can be very easy, impossible or anything in between. My first 'sexual' experience was actually a straight FMF.On my first visit to Sydney from a remote country farm, I was sharing a room with two slightly older girls (who are sisters). They were both very beautiful, highly confident, from a high society family and cheeky as and full of fun... In very high spirits, they put on a very wild strip dance, leaving nothing to my imagination, just for my attention and for quite some time they were doing their very best to entice me into all kinds of stuff I really had no idea about......I don't mind admitting, it freaked me out so much I didn't know what to do! (I should add I was about 5 & they were about 6 & 8....lol). It's not the only time something like that happened to me. But what's more weird that it took me so long to get it into my head, that women are very often far more sexual, open minded, adventurous and up for some fun than men are. It's nice to see a few well balanced comments in this thread, the amount of ignorance and negative stuff is amazing given the sort of site this is.MrC

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    13 years ago

    Hell yes, why not? Adults interacting as adults for mutual outcomes.

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    13 years ago

    Hell yes, why not? Adults interacting as adults for mutual outcomes.

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    13 years ago

    Mr Cutecouple............. from Mr Classy. I feel a tad sorry for you and the replies some have come up with. This site isnt about womens fantasies at all. In fact, what a given individual or couples fantasy may be, is their business.   Mrs Classy I am sure would love to have a 3 way that was just for my pleasure. She gets off on me getting off. The hornier I get, the hornier she is (and I must say that is also reciprocated). So if thats how we roll, thats how we roll.   FFM straight threesome? Nothing odd about that, and why does it need to be about levels of satisfaction? When we make love, not EVERY session is about roof raising orgasms. Sometimes, it might be more about her, sometimes more about me. But its about us BOTH being happy, and getting what is needed, and respecting each others boudaries.   I hope you find a gorgeous lady that can fullfill this fatasty for you! Good luck.

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    13 years ago

    No need to feel sorry for myself guys, although it has proven incredibly difficult to find a woman for the FMF fantasy, there is indeed a couple out there where the woman is not only stunning to this black duck but is quite in to the male half of the species. Some recognise I am not simply a selfish individual, but rather, someone who although given all the freedom in the world by my own lovely to play with whomever I like but prefer to play with my partner as she does with me. You are correct, it is about both of us and both of our collective and individual desires, a point lost on some. At various stages of membership on this site we have been flooded with flirts and messages from single girls all supposedly expressing an interest in us "both" as a couple. Sadly when messages were sent by us in reply the truth has always came back that the other woman's interest primarily lies in my lovely partner which tends to have upset her more than it has encouraged her to pursue it further. She still does find me to be attractive as do others in a public event and was/is rather hoping to find another that believes the same. She is listed as straight or experimental but it is only to be the one who shows more an interest sexually in mwa, that will see the smiling experimental partner I call my lovely evolve possibly beyond the experimental. "HER WORDS".One could very easily play solo with not a problem in the world developing between "us" but where is the ultimate fun in that, if my partner does not get to see how happy I am both with her and another at the same time. ?? Thank you again for your constructive input.J and H

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    13 years ago

    i am a "straight" woman who has always wondered about the bi side of life (as i believe ALL women do some just wont admit it) i went onto RHP after becoming single..long story short ended up meeting a married couple with the same thoughts and a year later we are still getting it on but best of all we are all great friends. It is the best thing i ever did but we were lucky to all click "FATE" as any relationship/friendship people dont always gel.... no harm in giving it a try if you want to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    13 years ago

    Sometimes we try things when the moons a line. Its about the dynamics of the three people involved. I had a threesome with my friend who is straight, and she had never had a threesome before. I have had a few with couples, women and two guys. I know its just about the chemistry. This guy was at my house, and he came just to have sex with her.   He had been with her before.   They started having sex in another room and some how made it out into the lounge room. I know it was discussed before with him. She decided it was something she would like to try and he was experienced as well. I was attracted to him as soon as he walked in the door, but I did not say anything. After all he was here to have sex with her not me and we had never met before. He was intuitive, perceptive and also not a fuck and run out the door guy. It was sensual and lots of for play and stop and start so he could last the distance. I was not worried how it finished as I finished myself with a vibrator while he finished her off.   Its the rhythm of the sensual play the spontaneous nature of the foreplay and the lead up. How comfortable women are with each other in their head space about what they are doing.   And like Krissy_g said its about the human connection between all the people involved and not just the sexual contact.

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    13 years ago

    I am a straight female and would do a couple I guess...as long as the other woman was straight or if bi she respected my boundaries.... After reading what AlmostAnything had to say...I would definately play with a couple but the big difference being..I would have to meet both for a coffee first and get to know them both and see if the level of comfort is there! As in with a single guy I would just meet up with for sex...no coffee needed! Hugs...xFunlovingx

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