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Single Men and Swingers parties

November 16 2014

It amuses me when I hear or see comments from the single about trying to get into swingers parties. We started up Friday Night parties at the Pleasure Lounge for the purpose of providing a night where single guys are welcome. Whilst we still limit the number of single men invited. The guys seem to get overexcited about coming to a party. Not many of those invited actually show up. Who would have thought that

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  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    I'm sure there is a lot of history as to why these events are held the way they are. Please spare me the details, I don't want to know. It seems you have posted this for a reason? Again I'm sure you will write something but really...... I don't want to know. What's the matter Meander? You waiting for some sparks to fly but didn't want to touch this one but liked it? It is what it is. I'm not sure that any amount of discussion in the forum is going to alter anything or do you want to simply get a point across? If that's it ok😀.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Err not sure what you are talking a about? Sounds like you need a bit Of a break to regroup eh? The question is about single men wanting to go to parties and clubs but when they get the opportunity they don't show up. All talk, and no action. :(

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I have never actually been officially invited , however i was going to attend with a friend a while back but we got all tangled up in the moment and didnt come up for air till it was much to late , but next time i show interest you may consider throwing me an invite i might show up even :-) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I wouldn't think you'd attract many single women without the single guys. Or is it really only a couples thing...?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The beauty about dealing with humans is that if you give them an opportunity to disappoint they generally will.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    What Meeka said. The OP didn't ask a question, so I merely agreed.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I had the opportunity to be able to attend a party the lasted the hole weekend and had the best time ever thanks too all those people that i met. I am a single guy atm and i believe that as a single guy the first thing in any adult party that you have the priverlidge to attend you must be respectfull too others once they feel comfortable with you then doors open very quickly. What im trying to say is that too many single men think that they have some kind of right to play at a party because they are there. I met a Very beautifull woman on Saturday night and i hope that i can see her more. GUYS its simple respect.

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    11 years ago

    Perhaps its all wishful thinking on the part of the single men? Perhaps they are concerned that their wives/girlfriends/partners will find out that they have desires to attend a swingers party as so called single men , and so they chicken out at the last minute ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Single men are just sick of being ripped off

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I have been to these parties and have enjoyed myself very much and will be going again soon.

  • infusions

    infusions

    11 years ago

    My observation was that guys complain about not being able to attend such events, but when given the opportunity they fail to launch. Whereas the single women who say they are attending usually do so.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Fridays_Escape' My observation was that guys complain about not being able to attend such events, but when given the opportunity they fail to launch. Whereas the single women who say they are attending usually do so. Single women $20 Single men $100

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I think if I had a free nightd I'd spend it on a North Coast beach with a six pack cooking dinner on an open fire and fishing. I like parties for the socialising but much prefef to go with a partner rather than solo. It seems these days the parties look more and more like an exclusive night club. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool'Single women $20 Single men $100 That's sound like a pretty good deal mate, just 5 times the girls price, let's start the feminist debate! For a $100 buck you potentially get to bang 2-3 girls, that's bargain compare to going to the hookers ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Like 50zcool says:Single women $20Single men $100 Putting a couple of points aside - I don't live in Perth, and I'm outside the "suited to" age range..For mine, it comes down to one simple thing: Value For Money.$100 to walk through a door into a club simply does not represent value for money to me in any way, shape or form. I work hard to earn my pay, and can spend that $100 on a range of different things that will give me more bang for the buck - pardon the pun - that going to a club for a few hours where I may or may not meet new and interesting people, and shag them.You can justify the huge discrepancy in the cost for a single woman vs a single man any way you like, but at the end of the day, all you're doing is excluding a number of single men who may be more inclined to attend if the cost was more reasonable.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The reasons to me Night clubs, Swinger clubs charge fees is to. 1 restrict male attendance of males is because of trouble they have had in the past. (i.e fights,rude,lude behavior). No one wants, needs some drunk highly strung male at places where they go to relax. Quite simple. 2. Women go to dance and enjoy company so take a page from thier book. Chill enjoy the night or STAY HOME.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Mr_Outdoors' I think if I had a free nightd I'd spend it on a North Coast beach with a six pack cooking dinner on an open fire and fishing. I like parties for the socialising but much prefef to go with a partner rather than solo. It seems these days the parties look more and more like an exclusive night club. - Posted from rhpmobile well said Thumbs up

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Any females keen to go to a party with me this Friday night, I am a single male and i think its better to party with a partner. Check out my profile and send me a message. xx Aron

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I think every man thinks he is a porn star until there is another cock standing beside him!!! iv been to many parties and myself included could not rise!! so its not for everyone... the idea of a swingers party sounds amazing and they are but its not what people think!!! its a crowd of people standing about naked having a few drinks and only one or two couples actually get it on for everyone to see. a lot goes into private rooms. iv made some good friends or swinger buddies!!! just be yourself and be clean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'fancysomeirish' I think every man thinks he is a porn star until there is another cock standing beside him!!! iv been to many parties and myself included could not rise!! so its not for everyone... the idea of a swingers party sounds amazing and they are but its not what people think!!! its a crowd of people standing about naked having a few drinks and only one or two couples actually get it on for everyone to see. a lot goes into private rooms. iv made some good friends or swinger buddies!!! just be yourself and be clean!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Actually that is nothing like the clubs and parties that i go to. I have been to places where there are probably up to 100 people all playing along side each other and just general having a very dirty time!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Boo bloody hoo, what a pack of whingers. Why don't you pay $80 + for a good hair cut each time you go, or spend all that money on grooming, and then come back to me about the unfairness of men paying more than women. Seriously!! FFS! LOL

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Fridays_Escape' My observation was that guys complain about not being able to attend such events, but when given the opportunity they fail to launch. Whereas the single women who say they are attending usually do so. A common complaint from anyone who has ever hosted (or tried to host) a private party, whether free or not. To add: I've found the exact same to be true for social Meet and Greets. When you compare the RSVP list to that of those who actually turned up, it appears many guys got lost on their way there...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    All i can say is that its good that there are those that are willing to cater for single guys, and yes there a few that whine that they are not catered for, which is more or less true. But guys when you do get an opportunity many just sit in the comer pulling their pood just ogling, or those that seem to think that because its a swingers club/party that means that every woman is and should be available to them and make it very uncomfortable for others with their whining persistence. Then, with only the very rare exception, its always men that cause trouble, become arse holes and need to be evicted when it sinks in that attending does not guarantee that they will get some. From my experience up to 50% of male newbies have absolutely no social skills or don't understand that swingers parties are not free for all sweaty writhing fuck fests. To have a good time, enter without expectations, treat people the same as any other ordinary pub/club/party, with respect and courtesy. Go to have a good time, don't go because you are desperate to blow. Understand that women there are not just self warming fuck toys for your pleasure just because they are at a swingers club. And NO means fucking NO!!!!! Want a guarantee go to a brothel. Little wonder men are not as catered for. As for cold feet? As an organizers it must be frustrating to not get the expected numbers, I get that. For first timers it a very daunting thing to do. My first time I was indecisive and almost declined. I truly thought that such things were only for the perfect young beautiful people, though most eager to go an ordinary mug like me is going to stick out like a sore thumb. I was full of nerves confronting my own insecurities I almost turned to go home at the door. So glad I did go and on the first time learnt otherwise, they are for beautiful people. People of all ages, shapes, sizes, looks, and types. I go as often as I can, not to get laid, but to feel free to enjoy the company of sexually liberated, non judgmental, most excellent human beings. Cold feet I personal forgive and would always give them an opportunity to come in another time.

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    Respectfully everyone is entitled to their opinion and I don't usually say things like this but Fuck Off! You don't need to understand it's not your post. However the poster did know that there was an issue. Actually it's not with me but there is a bad culture of exclusion and charge more if you are a single male. Well don't expect a single male to just sit back on that one. You bought it into the kitchen so now it's going to get cooked! I don't think it is good that guys don't attend but you don't need to post this crap unless you are planning to start an argument. I've never tried to attend a party or event but I can see that it discriminates against single males. You can say all the bs you want but the numbers are limited. A single woman is all good for couples as their partners are looking for women. However, and I am asking, how many parties are there where couples numbers are limited? How many parties where women's numbers are limited? How many singles only parties are there? Keep it real and don't make an excuse about it. It is what it is. All I'm saying is the poster jumped in here with an agenda. Meander I just thought the quiet behind the scene support was interesting. Meeka100 & Meander I usually have a great deal of time and respect for your post but not on this subject. Yes I am going to stand up for equality for Men and Women as we don't need the ugly alternative.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' To add: I've found the exact same to be true for social Meet and Greets. When you compare the RSVP list to that of those who actually turned up, it appears many guys got lost on their way there... Or the door man stopped them :(

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Been to couples parties and swingers parties most ever paid for entry is $50. That said the cost of that helped cover the hotel rooms or in swingers parties the nibblies, condoms, lube etc so realistically very cheap night. Always had a ball and going by myself as a single man met so many awesome people!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The guy has a valid point and you opt to mock him? From the tone of your posts you would be one of the first up in a rage screaming sexism and the like if the shoe were on the other foot. Quoting 'Meeka100' Boo bloody hoo, what a pack of whingers. Why don't you pay $80 + for a good hair cut each time you go, or spend all that money on grooming, and then come back to me about the unfairness of men paying more than women. Seriously!! FFS! LOL

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I am here to confess that I did indeed click yes to an invitation to Fridays_Escape. Which I fully intended to attend. And to Meeka100's point about men and their tight asses, I bought pants. Unfortunately I didn't make the event, something came up. Sometimes people do have a valid excuse, really, like 5% of the time. I guess until you have that insane swinging sex orgy that you have always fantasized about kind of night. The memories of past experiences might have you making a different call on a Friday night.. Remember If you build it they will come.. :)

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    11 years ago

    I've not had an issue with single men. The 'successful' single men are those that practice exactly what 'blindman' has stated. You are not guaranteed a root, no-one is. Work a little magic to get the results you want. I have said no to a play with a single man, because he likes to be the silent type and I'm meant to be in tune and turned on by that 😴 I did explicitly tell him that I like my men talking to me and connecting with me. Now value for money I understand, however some of the comments here make women sound like cheap hookers, $100 bucks for numerous blowjobs and various pussy is value for money gents. Taking someone out on a nice date would cost that much and you're not guaranteed a root, parties are a similar situation, but IMO you have to work much less to get a lay at a party 😊 Mary xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Are you one of the ones Who didn't turn up a6sexy? Read my post I never said that it was fair that single men are not included did I now? All is said was I don't think blokes should whinge about paying more. It's about supply and demand and women pay a lot more for lots of other goods & services than men. So darlings If you expect me to feel sorry for you I just don't. In fact I find it pathetic thy you would complain about it... $100 is nothing I have to pay that for a haircut. As for parties I go to ones with loads of single men because as a single woman I prefer it. I am not interested in couples per se. So I am afraid you have misrepresented me there. :p 😜😝😛

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    If you had been around longer you would actually know that Meander and I are advocates of single men attending but we also understand The difficulty for organisers when doing so. Also you seem to be banging the wrong drum here. The OP said that single men were invited but didn't show up.... What your talking about is irrelevant to the topic. pS I love arguing and baiting people, I know I know it's annoying. But you put a smile on face this morning fellas. Thanks. ;-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The only sex parties I have attended in the last 18 mths are bi-sexual nude orgies. That's what they are called. Often around 50 bi-sexual men and 10 women and we all pay $30 & the few couples that attend pay $50. That is lots of fun... I enjoy being one of the boys swinging my strapon around. Haha. As a single female who is not really into women I am am only interested in couples if hey are super kink if at all. In fact I have said before on the forum that swingers clubs need more single people and less couples! :p not sure what is going on in Perth but I am sure there are parties out there that cater for everything. Don't just stick to swingers clubs... They are pretty conservative a lot of the time well the Sydney ones are.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I'm stunned. To look at this from the view point that it's a great opportunity to bang 3 or 4 different women for $100 is IMO completely missing the lifestyle side of these parties. This is a lifestyle choice by the ladies and to say it's an opportunity to bang half a dozen for the budget price of a hundred dollars likens them to prostitutes. I'm officially embarrassed to be male today. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    My opinion- and this is just my opinion so don't crucify me- firstly you are attracting wrong audience as soon as you charge so much for males to attend (I understand overheads are high etc) but hot guys that women are going to be into don't need to pay that much for sex (and I'm sorry gorgeous women- this is how guys seem to see it :/) as soon as it becomes known there are only guys going that are not attractive... Women don't attend... Then it becomes a sausage fest and then guys don't bother because they are not interested in going there and chatting to other dudes and paying lots of money for that privilege.... It's a downward spiral. This is just my humble opinion please do not crucify me!!!🙏🙏🙏 Xxviolet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Who doesn't like a sausage sizzle eh! ;-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    That's why you got told you sound bitter. Telling another forum member to fuck off is seriously bad form.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Doesn't worry me at all. I hope nobody reports it because I would like it to stay ;( Violet, I don't think $100 for a night out, where you can bring your own alcohol is that expensive anyway.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The problem is I only like pretty sausages lol Xxviolet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Now I would love to crucify you young lady. Tie you to the rack spread eagled all nekkid. Ooh the things I would do to you.... And I would only invite the thickest best looking kranskies to come and assist me. Oh what fun we would have. 😉😍

  • Plain280

    Plain280

    11 years ago

    A little history there used to be a thriving daytime swinging scene in Sydney Metro area, yes the boys paid and the girls didnt, what killed it too many single guys or more correctly unaccompanied attached or married men, who did not understand what the scene was all about. In short they were often rude and arrogant and some of the operators were a bit shifty, like taking money from 10 plus guys at one party and announcing no party as there were no ladies and no refunds, with heavies behind him. Oh the bad old days, whats changed? A lot in terms of venues being more organised and yes selective, what has not changed the majority of single blokes and the like who do not respect the privilege of attending well run swingers clubs and events, this is reinforced by easy access to porn and some of the rap lyrics going around which give them the impression that all ladies will put out instantly and act in a boorish manner if their demands are not met. In short some very good reasons for the price difference get used to it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Time and time again men are criticised for thinking with their cocks, women have been exploiting it since they learnt to wrap daddy around their little fingers, you resent being seen as a sex object, I resent being used to subsidise your night out. I didn't come down in the last shower I know about supply and demand, I know my protest doesn't matter and to many is even amusing, I seriously don't care.I couldn't care less about the $100, it's the principle, I'm over thinking with my cock and I resent being exploited for my sex. Surely, Surely, women would understand that ? Or is it a one way street ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Some great imaginative ideas...mmmm But back to swingers clubs ... I love the idea of those bisexual parties where everyone is considered equal and everyone contributes equally- then there is no one going to pay for cheap sex- then it is a truly non discriminatory lifestyle choice ... Love it 💕xxviolet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    There is also a bi-sexual club in Sydney. Okay it's pretty sleazy at times and usually full of men but everyone is welcome. Singles, couples, transgender, cross dressers, straight, bi, gay, etc. Everyone pays $20, it's four floors of open rooms, private rooms, suckatorium, spa, sauna, steam room, continuous clean towels, and very very dark and you often stick to the floor. And it's open 24/7. outrageously they recently they decide to make Saturdays males only. What an outrage!! Haha Seriously men get the best facilities and open all the time and cheap!!! I know that other gay saunas will also have open nights or days. Don't they have them in Perth? I suppose it's only really for very open minded people though... You have to be comfortable with same sex sex as in seeing it not necessarily partaking in it , etc.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Ide definetely show some interest in attending onne of those.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I don't know what's available bi-wise in Perth- that one in Sydney sounds amazing!! Would love to see that. Xxviolet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Violetincredible' I don't know what's available bi-wise in Perth- that one in Sydney sounds amazing!! Would love to see that. Xxviolet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Would get me blown by 2 hookers at once and I would still be able to get a kebab on the way home ha ha. Would way rather that than a sausage fest with no guarantees. Each to their own though if that's what tickles your fancy go for it. The only thing I swing is a cricket bat occasionally and that's about it ha ha - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Swingingnudist

    Swingingnudist

    11 years ago

    Respect is a big thing at parties. Postee nigel435 attended last weekends swingers weekend I organized and he is welcome to any future weekends or parties. I had a number of men say they were going to attend but failed to turn up. Price was the same for men as well as couples $100 for the whole weekend! ! Their loss as there were 45 sexi couples and 6 ladies. Some of the issue I feel is they get scared about performing. Fin

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'illcoveryourface'100 bucks Would get me blown by 2 hookers at once and I would still be able to get a kebab on the way home ha ha. That's funny, because it's true.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    There are couple go there to and the single guy must be invited by the couple to join then it is not open house, they have a colour code wrist bands green fr guys orange fr couples, if you are invited to join the couple one of the couple take you get orange ban.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool' I couldn't care less about the $100, it's the principle, I'm over thinking with my cock and I resent being exploited for my sex. Surely, Surely, women would understand that ? Or is it a one way street ? Gimme a break...

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    11 years ago

    Meeka maybe next time I'm in Sydney and because you're such a dedicated and wonderful tour guide maybe you could include that club on the next tour, pretty please with sugar on top......😍 Now as for the question, I only tend I go to a club if it's on a singles men's night, as that's what I like. I've been to a few private house parties, there was defiantly no shortage of single men well not at the ones I've been to anyway, but very few single women, go figure.....💋

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    A Bi Club in Perth? sounds hot, I'd be loving that - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Thank you for your advice re: first time jitters. I am attending a party this Friday night. Yes, I WILL turn up hehe. I'm even taking the day off work beforehand to ensure I'm on time, fresh and alert/awake; also considering I'll be travelling 90mins. It goes till 2am, and I'll be back at work at 6am, again after travel. Regardless, I WILL be turning up :) Seems to me that turning up already puts you above some other men. After that is to be polite and friendly. I'm good at all that, however as a first timer at an event where you strip down on arrival, I'm wondering how you go about talking to people, what kind of approach you make, especially approaching a couple. They say to introduce yourself to both the man and the woman, of course. I mean, do you go up to the man and shake his hand and say hello and start a conversation, like you would on the street? Doesn't it feel a little bit strange considering you're both in your underwear? As for price, I understand why some people take issue with the price discrepancy. However, last time I checked, a few fancy cocktails will cost just as much, so does a concert, paying for dinner for two, and speed dating. But of course, it's not something I would do more than once a week. Also by reports, apparently all "shapes and sizes" were there, when most events stipulate a strict body type (especially for men). Is this as strict as they say, or is it just so they don't get the extremes of undesirables?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    That our issue is with that "single guys " May behave badly ! I have seen far more married men coming to parties as a couple behaving poorly or over stepping there mark then any single guy at a party We are the biggest supporters of single guys and the part they play in the lifestyle And our fantasies especially !! Well done to finally have a night where single guys are welcome for all us people who couples play isn't our first choice but end up there because only a few single guys are invited and we don't wAnt to fight over them with all the others who want to play with them and feel like we are sloppy seconds or even worse thirds or fourths! We hate labels - whether it's by sexual orientation , relationship status or gender! We are all just people and should all be welcome anywhere ! There is a place for all of us and especially in this scene , where all our sexual needs are different and wanted by someone ! Maybe if there wasn't a sigma about single guys they wouldn't chicken out about coming to events and feel all this pressure Anyway ... Just my 2cents worth Xx mrs Cs - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    And hell yer bring on the bi club in Perth Xx mrs Cs - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quote SnippedGuy82 "Doesn't it feel a little bit strange considering you're both in your underwear?" You very quickly get used to it, and then its like meeting people at any other venue. If you are a nice guy, show respect, and with nice smile you will have a great time. As for entry rules, each party and club has its own criteria. Mostly from my experience its more of a guideline that allows organizers to deny entry if they sense trouble, but have not experienced all that is happening in Perth by far so take it as it comes. Have a good time.

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' Are you one of the ones Who didn't turn up a6sexy? Read my post I never said that it was fair that single men are not included did I now? All is said was I don't think blokes should whinge about paying more. It's about supply and demand and women pay a lot more for lots of other goods & services than men. So darlings If you expect me to feel sorry for you I just don't. In fact I find it pathetic thy you would complain about it... $100 is nothing I have to pay that for a haircut. As for parties I go to ones with loads of single men because as a single woman I prefer it. I am not interested in couples per se. So I am afraid you have misrepresented me there. :p 😜😝😛 Quoting 'Meeka100' If you had been around longer you would actually know that Meander and I are advocates of single men attending but we also understand The difficulty for organisers when doing so. Also you seem to be banging the wrong drum here. The OP said that single men were invited but didn't show up.... What your talking about is irrelevant to the topic. pS I love arguing and baiting people, I know I know it's annoying. But you put a smile on face this morning fellas. Thanks. ;-) Meeka100 No i didn't express interest to get invited. Ill say it again I'm not talking about the money so yes you missed my point. It not about the money for me at all. However it is a factor some as that has been expressed on this post by others. Happy to debate and i'll address the other issue on Meanders reply..... Quoting 'Meander' That's why you got told you sound bitter. Telling another forum member to fuck off is seriously bad form. Meeka100 was treating me like a little boy you tell to go away. Oops wrong guy! What she said was disrespectful so I gave it back to her. To her credit she took it like a champ. That I can respect. I am about fairness and people being nice to each other, Men & Women.

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    Now with all that has been said I'm asking this question. As a business you want to get regular clients that behave in a respectful fun manner. Socialize and have a great time with a variety of people. This will in turn add profit and keep issues to a minimum. Obviously in the past the few have ruined it for the many. Would it have been too difficult to express your issue differently? "Hey single guys we get a lot of negative talk because we limit the number of single men. However the ones that do get invited don't turn up and we could have had other single guys come in for a nice night. Maybe you guys can give me an idea as to why guys register and then don't turn up. We are trying to make this a night for everyone but we are struggling to make it work. Can you help us help you?"

  • Wild_Pagan_Love

    Wild_Pagan_Love

    11 years ago

    Thanks CS, you're spot on. I've been invited in the past, but i'm reluctant to go on my own for that very reason - the stigma of feeling like an annoyance or third wheel. People are too quick to jump on the bandwagon. Yeah sure, some guys are pigs, but it doesn't excuse sweeping generalizations.

  • infusions

    infusions

    11 years ago

    its heaps of fun reading all the opinions and comments. Lots to ponder. The issue of guys not turning up when they have indicated they definitely will isn't about the cover charge amount. Look at the number who indicate they are attending a meet and greet and they are generally a free event. Lots of no shows there as well. To keep the cover charge in perspective, most nights out to any entertainment precinct will see you more than a $100 lighter in the pocket. And theres the anti-social behavior that goes with that. A guy could go consume 10 drinks over the course of the night and more if your but the ladies a drink. A night out with like minded people, who fit the criteria of the establishment, perhaps some viewing or playing if your what others desire makes it a pleasant night out, without fear of getting glassed or abused

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    11 years ago

    Quoting 50zcool Maybe............. Single men are just sick of being ripped off Unbelievable Time and time again men are criticised for thinking with their cocks, women have been exploiting it since they learnt to wrap daddy around their little fingers, you resent being seen as a sex object, I resent being used to subsidise your night out. I didn't come down in the last shower I know about supply and demand, I know my protest doesn't matter and to many is even amusing, I seriously don't care. I couldn't care less about the $100, it's the principle, I'm over thinking with my cock and I resent being exploited for my sex. Surely, Surely, women would understand that ? Or is it a one way street ? You need to ask yourself what attracts “single “ men to swingers clubs in the first place? Are they there to meet other “single” men, or are they there with the sole hope of getting a quick root – in other words they are hoping to get lucky with either a single woman, or the female of any couples that may be there. “Single” guys, on here, are a dime a dozen – they far outnumber the women/couples. Given half a chance, swingers clubs, that let in “single” males, would be swamped with males, were they not to (a) limit the numbers/ratio (b) charge more for the “single” males to attend. Attending a swingers club, as a “single” male, does not guarantee you anything at all. The problem is that so many “single” males, that pay the $100 or more to get in, then think that they are entitled to get value for money and that means to root as many woman as they can get their grubby paws on, that night. You are not subsidising our night at all. Were it not for the female of the couple, or the potential of a single female, being at the swingers club, there would be nothing to attract you, the so called “single” male to the club in the first place. You are there because we allow you to be there and we tolerate you being there, as long as you behave yourself and treat the women, and couples, with respect, and do not lurk in the shadows, follow the women to the toilets, and attempt to grope them at every opportunity. Clearly you are thinking only with your cock!! Your profile says “safe sex if required “. We guess that says it all !! Quoting ritmofish good deal Quoting '50zcool' Single women $20 Single men $100 That's sound like a pretty good deal mate, just 5 times the girls price, let's start the feminist debate! For a $100 buck you potentially get to bang 2-3 girls, that's bargain compare to going to the hookers ;) Not sure if you are agreeing with 50zcool or just being sarcastic. Paying $100 to enter a swingers club with the expectation and or demand to then get value for your money by banging 2-3 women is an unacceptable attitude. Yet so many “single” men gain access to swingers clubs ( we have seen it time and time again) and expect bang for their buck. Instead of engaging with the women/couples in a respectful gentle manner, in the form of an introduction and polite conversation at the bar, so many men lurk in the shadows, they watch and stare and follow and hunt. They try to open the doors of locked private rooms, in some instances they have forced the doors open, and in other instances they have stood on chairs with the intention of looking over the wall into the private room, or climbing over. We have had instances where we retire to a private room, just the two of us, and find that we are followed by a group of “single” men (seagulls and meerkats as we call them) who then try to get into the private room with us, by pushing the door open before we have a chance to lock it, or putting their foot in the door. This has only ever happened to us on those nights that “single” men have been allowed into the club, and never on those nights that were reserved for couples only. Perhaps it was due to the ratio of single men to women, and that having paid $100 to get in, the single blokes realized that they had competition in numbers and so often had to be very pushy and forceful, if they were going to get something for the money they had paid. We could see the desperation and sometimes the aggression and frustration on their faces. It got so bad at the one club, that we stopped going on those nights that single men were allowed in. There were many complaints by other couples, on the forum of another site and the result was that couples then avoided the club (which was under new management) and what then happened was that there would be 40-50 single men and only 2 or 3 couples …. And then eventually no couples at all and so the club then had to seriously limit the number of “single” men they allowed in, on a ratio of so many men to so many couples. What management also did was to instantly kick out any men that had transgressed (after receiving a complaint from a couple). Many were banned altogether from the club, but would still try their luck and either rock up at the door and demand to be given another chance, or would phone the club and beg to be let in (We witnessed this on several occasions). Whilst we are not tarring all “single” men with the same brush, we often wondered what the troublemakers were doing there in the first place. Clearly they had problems meeting women in “real life” through the normal mainstream methods, yet when allowed into the club, instead of engaging in a normal manner, they chose instead to lurk in the shadows and then follow the women around waiting for a chance to pounce on them or “bang” them. Quoting 75_76_77 For mine, it comes down to one simple thing: Value For Money. $100 to walk through a door into a club simply does not represent value for money to me in any way, shape or form. I work hard to earn my pay, and can spend that $100 on a range of different things that will give me more bang for the buck - pardon the pun - that going to a club for a few hours where I may or may not meet new and interesting people, and shag them. You can justify the huge discrepancy in the cost for a single woman vs a single man any way you like, but at the end of the day, all you're doing is excluding a number of single men who may be more inclined to attend if the cost was more reasonable. If there were no woman in the club, would you still pay $100 to get in ? So in essence you are prepared to pay $100 as long as there are women present and as long as you can get value for money by getting to bang as many as possible ? Again such an attitude of expectation, is what gives “single” men, at swingers clubs and on swingers sites, such a bad reputation. We are not saying that you are all bad apples, its just comments like yours that bring you all down. Single men get charged more to enter a swingers club, firstly so as to limit the numbers and secondly if it was made too cheap, then every Tom, Dick and Harry would be there, pay his $20 with the hopes of getting a quick root. Again single men are only there because they hope to find women there. The women are the honey /bait that attracts the flies. Its that simple. Quoting nigel435 COVER CHARGES The reasons to me Night clubs, Swinger clubs charge fees is to. 1 restrict male attendance of males is because of trouble they have had in the past. (i.e fights,rude,lude behavior). No one wants, needs some drunk highly strung male at places where they go to relax. Quite simple. 2. Women go to dance and enjoy company so take a page from thier book. Chill enjoy the night or STAY HOME. Well said, we agree with you completely. We used to go to a swingers club in Elsternwick almost every Saturday night, including the nights that “single” males were let in. But due to their unacceptable, disrespectful and lewd manner, we stopped going on open nights and instead then went once a month on those couples only nights. We never, not once, experienced any problems on couples only nights. Quoting Mr_Outdoors its not a brothel I'm stunned. To look at this from the view point that it's a great opportunity to bang 3 or 4 different women for $100 is IMO completely missing the lifestyle side of these parties. This is a lifestyle choice by the ladies and to say it's an opportunity to bang half a dozen for the budget price of a hundred dollars likens them to prostitutes. I'm officially embarrassed to be male today. Well said mate, we agree with you fully. “Single” guys are there mainly for the women, and because the women allow and tolerate them. The final choice whether to accept the advances of another “single” male, or not, is the choice of the woman. Sadly so many guys, judging by some of the comments on here, do not respect that.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Just so you know, I am quite happy for me people to tell me fuck off, I can take it as well as dish it out, however I would like to say that I thought your reponse was over the top and filled with a lot anger for no real particular reason I can see. I was not the person who brought up cost.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Your incredible massive, sweeping, derogatory, stereotyping put down of single men just beggars belief. That is all. :(

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    11 years ago

    That was a bit of a fuck up 6sexxy, that's for even telling a lady to fuck off for starters. Plus Meeka raised a valid point, only if you stop to think about it for a moment as a bloke for the better understanding of women and on a whole best over all. Before we whinge and tantrum. Everyone is limited to the clubs capacity for guests. The swinger clubs are fashioned for couples to relax and play up with each other, catered for, on a whole by the nature of purpose. That is the concept for clubs and swingers parties and point of origin. Then comes invitation to singles and some kind of equilibrium to the flow of enjoyable atmosphere. Tried and tested has eventuated into the way it is in most events, the conditions in place although not limited to Gay, Bi, Fetishes or gender equality, within the going on of things once entry is permitted. So everyone in the room is treated equal, so to speak. If we go to a club as a couple it will cost about a hundred bucks to get in, or we don't get in. For us a hundred bucks is a hundred bucks, forget the splitting it into two lots of fifty, it still is a hundred bucks. If you go and to get entry as a single bloke for a hundred bucks, that's about the same as what the couple have paid, right? Women cop it up the arse everywhere still, lets not forget that. It will cost about eighty bucks for a lady to have the hair done, a manicure, wax and what ever is deemed necessary to feel comfortable and favoring a pleasant evening, women still are generally paid less that men, limited to positions where the big money is in the corporate world and just in general everything else. So it costs a woman about a hundred bucks to get in. If there was no conditions of entry, there would become an imbalance of single men attending, don't need to explain why that is so. So there is the general rules of these events. So what are you winging about and telling Meeka to fuck off, when she is right? Mado Mado Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Never been to one, other than a stupid eyes wide shut party in Sydney years ago with a partner. Wouldn't want to go as a single male, much prefer to experience it as a couple. But if this is what goes on. I know I'd rather undergo bowel surgery, in the woods, with a stick

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool' Your incredible massive, sweeping, derogatory, stereotyping put down of single men just beggars belief. That is all. :( If JL is speaking from personal experience, how can they be sweeping stereotypical comments??? JL also points out, a couple of times that they are not tarring all single men with the same brush. Maybe you could re-read the comments from an objective point of view??

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I found so many things you said about single guys awful! If singles made generalised comments about couples like that there would be a out cry! What did any single guy do to you to make you so nasty about them! To say " given half the chance swingers clubs that let in single males would be swamped " means you missed the whole point of the forum - which was that they are being given the chance and don't turn up !! And to be so highly opinionated of yourself and use such strong words to say " you are there because we ALLOW you to be there and we TOLERATE you being there as long as you behave yourself" it's the attitutude of couples that we don't want to meet or attend parties and events ! Not every one is there to meet couples or women . And married men or men in couples also walk around being worsed behaved then single guys and feel it's ok as there wives are there , they too are not guarenteed anything for paying a enterance fee. Neither are the women ! Couples need to get off there high horses and not think they run the show and everyone should want them !! Brings me back to my point in my first reply to the forum that no wonder guys don't turn up if they feel everybody feels that way about them Xx mrs Cs - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I have been felt up , groped and spoke inappropriately and made to feel uncomfortable by more married men with there wives standing next to them or in the same room then any single guy!! So to stereotype any person by the relationship status is just ignorant !! Xx mrs Cs

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    the girls and I agree

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' Quoting 'Fridays_Escape' My observation was that guys complain about not being able to attend such events, but when given the opportunity they fail to launch. Whereas the single women who say they are attending usually do so. A common complaint from anyone who has ever hosted (or tried to host) a private party, whether free or not. To add: I've found the exact same to be true for social Meet and Greets. When you compare the RSVP list to that of those who actually turned up, it appears many guys got lost on their way there... Haha! Exactly! , We don't charge but there's still about a 5% showup rate from the single guys that say they are keen - and we have meet and greets in a big public place so you can melt away if you wish, AND we make sure that any single guy who comes and says hello gets a few introductions :D

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Cock_Suckers I agree. And the wife doesn't even tell the husband that he is being an arse!! Even when you slap the husbands hand away on from of her.... And he goes goes for the grips again! In my experience it's been older men that have acted in that way, not young men. Although the following women around, trying to get into private rooms, peaking over walls... I have also come across that from men. I don't know if they were single or married though. I mean let's face it all those husbands were single once... Or what? Women changed them for the better? ⊂(◉‿◉)つ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    :(

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting '6exxy'I am about fairness and people being nice to each other, Men & Women. Great, now keep it up.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Jason_Leslie' Quoting 75_76_77 For mine, it comes down to one simple thing: Value For Money. $100 to walk through a door into a club simply does not represent value for money to me in any way, shape or form. I work hard to earn my pay, and can spend that $100 on a range of different things that will give me more bang for the buck - pardon the pun - that going to a club for a few hours where I may or may not meet new and interesting people, and shag them. You can justify the huge discrepancy in the cost for a single woman vs a single man any way you like, but at the end of the day, all you're doing is excluding a number of single men who may be more inclined to attend if the cost was more reasonable. If there were no woman in the club, would you still pay $100 to get in ? So in essence you are prepared to pay $100 as long as there are women present and as long as you can get value for money by getting to bang as many as possible ? Again such an attitude of expectation, is what gives “single” men, at swingers clubs and on swingers sites, such a bad reputation. We are not saying that you are all bad apples, its just comments like yours that bring you all down. Re-read my post. Where did I say I'd pay $100 as long as there were women there? I'm saying I wouldn't as it doesn't represent - to me - value for money. Just to make it crystal clear - I would not pay $100 to go to ANY club, let along a swingers club as I don't see the value for money. Getting laid, not getting laid, it means bugger all to me. I simply have better things to spend my money on.Furthermore, I absolutely resent the implication that I think with my dick. I find it offensive in the extreme. Single men get charged more to enter a swingers club, firstly so as to limit the numbers and secondly if it was made too cheap, then every Tom, Dick and Harry would be there, pay his $20 with the hopes of getting a quick root. Again single men are only there because they hope to find women there. The women are the honey /bait that attracts the flies. Its that simple. Want to limit numbers? Simple: Come to our event. Please note: single guys limited to xyz. Bookings essential. Get 'em to pay up front and forfeit if they don't show.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'IndianaSmith' Haha! Exactly! , We don't charge but there's still about a 5% showup rate from the single guys that say they are keen - and we have meet and greets in a big public place so you can melt away if you wish, AND we make sure that any single guy who comes and says hello gets a few introductions :D Only 5% that is a very poor show. Invite twenty guys and only one shows up, I would not even bother wasting my time inviting guys with that kind of response. There are some party organizers that require an upfront "booking" payment before you get the address. There is a cutoff time and it is non refundable after that time (Usually the day before.) Sometimes they also include a discount if you pay in full before a certain date. There is also a full refund if the numbers do not reach the minimum required and the event is canceled. Personally I think that is an excellent idea because a party is not worth attending if the numbers are below a certain level. Knowing the numbers expected is important for all attending, not just the organizers. It would be good if more organizers started adopting this practice. IndianaSmith, as you don't charge this does not apply, but with such poor numbers from guys it may be worth considering, you could refund that "Booking fee" if they attend. At least you will have a much better idea of the numbers attending. To those that say its unfair that women get in for less or free, grow up. All you are doing is demonstrating that you have an axe to grind concerning gender and thus are precisely the wrong type of personality anyone would want to have lurking around such events.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Wow this has escalated quickly and off topic a bit as well. Having been in "the lifestyle" or scene as it is known for several years this is always a hot topic. I have attended clubs in several Australian States and also quite a few clubs in the US. Pricing has nothing to do with it as it is an "industry" standard single males are charged more and that is world wide. Do some research and you will see for yourself. Like anything you are invited to or register to attend you RSVP to the event. If you do not attend it is courtesy to advise that you will not show up. Does not matter if you are a single male or female or couple. Events, clubs cater for numbers that say they are attending. There a costs involved for swingers clubs to run. If no numbers turn eventually the clubs will shut down as it will not be viable to run anymore. Clubs in the US charge a membership fee plus an entry fee to enter the clubs. Maybe both Delta's and Pleasure Lounge could look at this option to stop the so called "wannabe's" from wasting peoples time. Same can be said for the meet and greet. If you are wanting to attend there could be a register fee that entitles the people to attend. Once payment is made details of the meet a given. In the end though it comes down to courtesy and respect. Not just with what happens inside these establishments but with being invited.

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    11 years ago

    As we mentioned in our post, what we have written has been our experience and as such we are entitled to form an opinion based on our experiences. We have been to swingers clubs on those nights that they let "single" males in, and have seen and experienced first hand, their attitude of entitlement and the trouble that some of them cause. We put single as "single" because so many of them are in fact not single at all. It's not all "single" males, there are certainly some that do behave in an acceptable manner. On those couples only nights, we have not experienced anything unpleasant at all nor witnessed any unacceptable behaviour from the males of the attending couples. That does not mean that it does not happen though. We are talking about our experience at swingers clubs . Private (by invite only) parties ( we have only been to 3, and that was in 2013) have been completely different to our club experiences, primarily because the hosts have known everyone and as such have screened them very well and the result has been a pleasant evening for all, including the couple of single males invited. We know that we are not alone with regards our experiences when it comes to single males at swingers clubs. There have been many , similar complaints, on this forum and the forums of other sites. One common complaint that comes through very strong on all, is the sense of entitlement , and that is that some people, having paid $ to get in to a swingers club feel that they are entitled to then get sex and in this regard they become unpleasant. We never go to a club or party with any expectations. We are happy to have a drink, socialise and chat with others, flirt, watch the passing parade. If we happen to play with others (which is rare) then it's a bonus. Often we will retire to a private room and have fun together. We enjoy it thoroughly and for us, that's what it's all about. We are polite and respectful to those we engage with. We don't push nor invade the space of others. If a guy becomes obnoxious, rude, disrespectful or follows us around, we generally ignore it. If he persists then we report him to management.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    If I became a single male, I would definitely still want to attend swing clubs. To me, it is a vastly different atmosphere to the pub / club situation. Even at $100, it's still a cheap night out. You BYO and hardly drink anyway. The environment is safe, the women are empowered. Everyone is open and honest. Best of all, you're surrounded by other progressive people who don't conform to the standard narrative. The people are simply far more interesting than what you get anywhere else. It's just the icing on the cake if you manage to connect with anyone else and have some sexy adult fun. Mr DJ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    And way too nice to be disrespected xxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The above was for Mrs Cocksuckers :):):)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Which pricing strategy is more likely to create entitlement ? A. Singles $20 per head B. Ladies $20.00 Men $100.00 and probably some resentment as well.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool' Which pricing strategy is more likely to create entitlement ? A. Singles $20 per head B. Ladies $20.00 Men $100.00 and probably some resentment as well. Neither creates entitlement. It comes from your attitude and maturity. Don't blame a pricing structure or marketing initiative (which seeks to differentiate a swing club from the meat market mentality of a standard night club and provide a safe and empowering environment for women) for your bad behaviour. Take responsibility for your own actions. Mr DJ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Let's make one thing clear, this is not about my behaviour.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    All we are doing now is taking a piss on the OP's fireworks by taking it off topic. It was simply why do people say they will come and dont

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool' Which pricing strategy is more likely to create entitlement ? A. Singles $20 per head B. Ladies $20.00 Men $100.00 and probably some resentment as well. That is why I don't let men pay for me when we go on dates ... because then they feel entitled to something. Well okay, maybe I would let them pay for the first date because it is expected but I would never ever go somewhere expensive for a first date with someone from RHP because of this "entitlement" attitude. It simply isn't worth it. You can't buy all women. You know 50zCool, I have been to speed dating events were men are free and women paid full price. Isn't that the same thing in reverse? At the end of the day attendees at any event or club want enough people to turn up so that it will make the night interesting and so that everyone will have a good time. If swingers clubs need to give women a discount in order to attract more on the night, well that is for the benefit of single men and couples benefit isn't it? I am sure I go to lots of events were I have paid full price but others have managed to get heavily discounted tickets or free tickets........ do I grumble that it isn't fair why did i pay full price? No. Life is too short, I am there to enjoy myself and have a good time. That is all I care about. I would fell sympathetic if you were talking about $200 or $300 but not $100. And I was not impressed nor did find the remark someone made about hiring the services of two sex workers and having some left over for a kebab. As Mr Outdoors says, people that make this remark do not understand the scene at all. Swingers clubs are meant to be for couples so its what the couples are into at the end of the day. This why I don't go very often.

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' Just so you know, I am quite happy for me people to tell me fuck off, I can take it as well as dish it out, however I would like to say that I thought your reponse was over the top and filled with a lot anger for no real particular reason I can see. I was not the person who brought up cost. I'm not in the habit of doing that. As a matter of fact it is the first time. I simply didn't like the dismissive child approach telling me to have a break. I'm not angry at you or the OP. However my comments are pointed because i do know of some of the history around this subject. I said it before but this was posted with an agenda behind it. If you had asked me "hey why are you angry" and talked with me you might have understood. I respect your comments back to me on this matter, thank you

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'madotara69' That was a bit of a fuck up 6sexxy, that's for even telling a lady to fuck off for starters. Plus Meeka raised a valid point, only if you stop to think about it for a moment as a bloke for the better understanding of women and on a whole best over all. Before we whinge and tantrum. Everyone is limited to the clubs capacity for guests. The swinger clubs are fashioned for couples to relax and play up with each other, catered for, on a whole by the nature of purpose. That is the concept for clubs and swingers parties and point of origin. Then comes invitation to singles and some kind of equilibrium to the flow of enjoyable atmosphere. Tried and tested has eventuated into the way it is in most events, the conditions in place although not limited to Gay, Bi, Fetishes or gender equality, within the going on of things once entry is permitted. So everyone in the room is treated equal, so to speak. If we go to a club as a couple it will cost about a hundred bucks to get in, or we don't get in. For us a hundred bucks is a hundred bucks, forget the splitting it into two lots of fifty, it still is a hundred bucks. If you go and to get entry as a single bloke for a hundred bucks, that's about the same as what the couple have paid, right? Women cop it up the arse everywhere still, lets not forget that. It will cost about eighty bucks for a lady to have the hair done, a manicure, wax and what ever is deemed necessary to feel comfortable and favoring a pleasant evening, women still are generally paid less that men, limited to positions where the big money is in the corporate world and just in general everything else. So it costs a woman about a hundred bucks to get in. If there was no conditions of entry, there would become an imbalance of single men attending, don't need to explain why that is so. So there is the general rules of these events. So what are you winging about and telling Meeka to fuck off, when she is right? Mado Mado Tara xx Mado I agree that telling a woman that is not what I would normally do but, no Meeka100 was not right. Refer back to the "ER huh?" post. Meeka100 was dismissive when it was not necessary and got told off. Her point of me being over the top or angry just is not right. I asked the OP several questions that are direct. I'm not sure where anger came into? Except that what she read into it. No matter Meeka100 moved on better than anyone. Cheers

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' Quoting '6exxy'I am about fairness and people being nice to each other, Men & Women. Great, now keep it up. Have you ever taken the time to speak with me?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool' Time and time again men are criticised for thinking with their cocks, women have been exploiting it since they learnt to wrap daddy around their little fingers, you resent being seen as a sex object, Or is it a one way street ? Completely understand your frustration in terms of that one size fits all clichéd stereotyping. Unfortunately for the rest of us gentlemen there are a few bad apples in here i'm afraid.....im mean take DG for example.....haaa...only joking DG..... seriously I saw a post a few days ago that made me want to dead set get on a plane and have a chat with the individual face to face - or at least hammer the person verbally....I did neither.......but theres the difference and its called self control respect and dignity.... Back to the OPI do not care about the additional charge because I feel that is representative of the same pricing discrimination tactic as the 300 airlines around the globe.....oh of course they do not discriminate on gender. They discriminate for profit sake...its legal and economic reality.....swingers parties discriminate for profit but they also discriminate to facilitate the desired mix of genders attending....Personally I do not care about the extra charge. In fact I like it because it does provide a price signal which produces an environment where the odds are sufficient for to still have plenty of wins.....the extra charge is worth the networking benefit I receive....And im 100% attendance - if I say im going to attend I do.

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    11 years ago

    If we are invited to a Meet & Greet, and we say that we will be there, then we will be there. If the Meet n Greet is arranged through the forums and or on RHP, one can see who has expressed an interest in going. Its interesting to take note that so many people, who said they would be going, did not pitch up. A few weeks ago we were invited to a Minx drinks party. It was advertised here on RHP and we could see that around 40 RHPers expressed an interest in attending. Of course the catch was that you had to pay $30 upfront, which we think is a good thing. We attended and met some really nice people, but not sure if anyone else from RHP was there as we certainly heard no mention of RHP from those we chatted with. We often wonder why people who express an interest in attending, never turn up. Could it be that they get cold feet ? That chatting on here (the forums or chatrooms) is much easier, they dont have to show a face, and they can be anyone they want to be, that its a bit of a safe fantasy? And that them showing up to a Meet n Greet would perhaps put them under the spotlight ? When we say Meet n Greet we are not talking about 2 couples meeting for drinks, but instead we are referring to a Meet n Greet where many people (from here or other sites) attend. It could also be, for example, in the case of a "couple" that the female half has no idea of the arranged get together, that the male has not told her, and that she it totally unaware of the plans, or even unaware of RHP! Another example could be a "single" guy, who ha a profile on here, who is not a single guy at all. In his arousal / hornyness on here and in the chatrooms, he does and says many things he would not normally do and say, all in the heat of the moment / at the height of his arousal ... and may then arrange to attend a meet n greet, meet a couple or even another woman...... but when his thinking returns to normal (after he has had a good wank LOL) perhaps he gets cold feet and or realises that his female partner wont go for it / does not know about it / and or will be too hard to bring up the subject with her ...... and so on his part it was all just wishful thinking ? We have never met up with a male, through RHP or any other site and so cant really comment on whether males are less likely to arrive or not. At the meet n greets we have been to, like the last RHP one on the Yarra a few weeks ago, there were more males than females, but that was just a social meet n greet and perhaps if it was a play meet the final attendance ratio would have been different ? On a positive note however, the guys did behave themselves and we did not experience any lewd and disrespectful remarks (unlike in the chatrooms or at swingers clubs) and so we enjoyed ourselves. How many people have been stood up, when arranging to meet a couple for drinks? We have met 6 couples (from this site and another) , for drinks and/or dinner (not play meets) , over the past 21 months. Fortunately they all arrived and we were not stood up. The reason for this, we think, is that we made sure that they were the real deal and that we were dealing with a couple. A good way to ensure that they are a couple, and that they are serious about meeting, is to chat with them both, on the phone. I suppose that one can also do this with a "single" male. Perhaps for many people, the whole idea of swinging remains a fantasy that they live out on this site, but get cold feet when the time comes to meet someone - ie when fantasy turns to reality ? Back to the OP's original post. Perhaps the difference is that they were invited and or expressed an interest in attending after being invited , versus making the conscious decision to go to a club. For example, at Attunga, on those nights that we have been, when single guys are allowed in, they are literally queuing at the doors to be let in, so much so that many of them have to be turned away as only so many are now allowed in depending of course on how many women are already in the club - its a ratio thing. The phone is ringing off the hook on those nights and listening to management talking to the guy on the other end of the line, they always ask how many women are currently in the club, not couples, women. So its the women that attract most of them we think. The guys that arrive at the door have made the effort and conscious decision that they want to be there, and they are prepared to pay the $90 or $100 admission fee. The decision to go has been theirs . Quite different to one seeing an ad on here or being invited by the organisers, and not having to make a commitment by paying. So perhaps thats the difference between the attendance at a club and the poor show rate at the parties that you organise? Perhaps you have just not been inviting the right males ?

  • infusions

    infusions

    11 years ago

    Quoting '6exxy' Quoting 'Meeka100' Just so you know, I am quite happy for me people to tell me fuck off, I can take it as well as dish it out, however I would like to say that I thought your reponse was over the top and filled with a lot anger for no real particular reason I can see. I was not the person who brought up cost. I'm not in the habit of doing that. As a matter of fact it is the first time. I simply didn't like the dismissive child approach telling me to have a break. I'm not angry at you or the OP. However my comments are pointed because i do know of some of the history around this subject. I said it before but this was posted with an agenda behind it. If you had asked me "hey why are you angry" and talked with me you might have understood. I respect your comments back to me on this matter, thank you There was no hidden agenda to OP. just an observation and to create some conversation regarding it. Its fabulous you think your a mind reader as well

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    "We have never met up with a male, through RHP or any other site and so can't really comment on whether males are less likely to arrive or not." And then, "It could also be, for example............""Another example could be............."""but when his thinking returns to normal (after he has had a good wank LOL) "Pure supposition ! hysterical, stereotypical drivel.Cockblocking on a grand scale ! DG would be proud.

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Fridays_Escape' Quoting '6exxy' There was no hidden agenda to OP. just an observation and to create some conversation regarding it. Its fabulous you think your a mind reader as well I am not a mind reader.This was not mind reading nor an assumption. In the very first post I asked you the question are you just simply trying to get a point across? You didn't answer and given the fact that you didn't ask a question in your post says I have another agenda. That agenda may have been to simply canvass what responses you get? I dont know but not an assumption. Maybe it was to see if pricing was an issue that you want to look at for the business? An agenda does not have to be sinister that is the assumption here. Cheers

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting '6exxy' I agree that telling a woman that is not what I would normally do but, no Meeka100 was not right. Refer back to the "ER huh?" post. Meeka100 was dismissive when it was not necessary and got told off. Her point of me being over the top or angry just is not right. I asked the OP several questions that are direct. I'm not sure where anger came into? Except that what she read into it. No matter Meeka100 moved on better than anyone. Cheers Gee I thought you that you were over the top and angry and what to I get told. I get told to fuck off in no uncertain terms. LMAO!!! Yeahhhhh... your not angry. Not at all. hahahahaha

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    One price for each person regardless if couple, single, male or female. No matter what the event you can only count on 33% if your lucky for attendance. A great night out will always depend on the company. So if your feeling uneasy about attending I suggest you put together a small group of friends and go together for support.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Oops fo the grammer nazis - I should have used you're. My humblest apologies. Please don't hate me.

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    Thanks and I'm sure several guys would be happy if it was that way. A number of single men don't like the price point which really is not supportive of interaction. What it is is a way of saying your included however at a high premium. We don't really want you here unless you pay for the privilege. That is what it really says.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' Oops fo the grammer nazis - I should have used you're. My humblest apologies. Please don't hate me. I promise not to hate you....but errors like those will result in a spanking!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Just saw the pricing for Our Secret Spot this Sunday: - $50 per MF couple or MFF couple - $100 per MMF couple - $70 per unaccompanied single male - Free for single women That's not bad at all, and better than The Couples Club!

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