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People who constantly point out grammar mistakes are pretty much jerks, scientists find
April 07 2016
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RHP User
10 years ago
I don't mind what you call me,I changed back to Qefenta because I was not feeling very Freya like xxQ
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RHP User
10 years ago
You are so right Peachy,even today children are endlessly tested,endlessly diagnosed,pigeon holed,labelled blah,blah,blah. There are so many variables in a child's life,love and care being one of the most important. Sometimes we flourish in spite of,not because of what is going on around us and to us. Many children with learning difficulties are bullied at school. If you don't fit in ,if you are different you become a target. It makes it doubly difficult to learn,to want to stay at school. I truly believe if those external barriers to learning,unfriendly classrooms,negative perceptions of the student ie lazy...or stupid ,then children would have a positive idea of themselves achieve more than they believe possible and we wouldn't have that dreadful statistic of 44 percent of working adults who are functionally illiterate in this country Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think it is difficult to find anyone ,friend or lover who is interested in the same things we are. So it's the interior life that becomes important. I can do small talk but for me it's kind of empty,that's why my work.like yours is so important to me and if by posting here about the issues regarding why some people are crap at spelling and grammar changes just one persons point of view it's worth it We have met in real life and you are a beautiful,smart woman,you probably are not less intelligent than you were when younger,you have just figured out what is important to you. Memory is indeed a bitch though,mine seems to focus on remembering things like the Who Weekly 😆Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Summersolstice' I used to have a high IQ, and according to the scale was officially a genius. I was the best in my class, which didn't do me much good. It was just one more reason to be bullied, woop-de-doo.I was also more prone to depression (I believe that is linked), I always got top marks in school, finished year 12 with an OP1 (the highest ranking for those not familiar with the Qld OP system), continued to get top marks during my first degree and graduated with a first class Honours. Then, it all stalled, I developed some serious mental health issues, and the years since have been a huge struggle. I'm so close to finishing my second degree which is the key to getting myself out of the rut I'm in, but there is every chance I could still fuck it up for myself because if I have any talent it's fucking things up for myself. I'd trade all those top school and uni marks for a brain that doesn't give me the grief it does every single day, and for a more 'normal' life (whatever that is I guess...but what I do know is I see people who are so easygoing, who aren't really phased by anything, and I wish I could be like them). I've never taken a formal or even informal IQ test but I'd be willing to bet that the years of mental health struggles and self-abuse have affected my cognition. I certainly know it affects things like my attention span and ability to concentrate, and pretty sure my memory as well. So yeah, high IQ and being perfect on paper isn't everything, not by a long shot.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Peachy, The points people have made re: attitude have not been lost on me. I am one of those people who value and appreciate proper use of our language. I do not go about correcting people for incorrect usage, however I do form an impression. I do not think this is in any way unusual, abnormal, or unfair. People form judgements, opinions and attitudes on all manner of topics daily. I view the argument over proper use of language no differently to that of personal hygiene and presentation. To me they are rooted in the same basic principle; that being respect for self and others. Try as we might, none of us ever will like everyone or everything, but we may still manage to find respect on some level despite our dislikes (be that of people, or of “things”). Whilst I find poor grammar and spelling grates, I tend to let it slide. However, I do make an exception and I do correct my own young children in hope they don't slip into poor habit. They do not have "learning difficulties", and I'm sure they are not being taught poorly at school. Still (I have learnt by observation) my own kids will adopt poor language out of laziness, and/or a desire to fit in with other kids (some of whom use language poorly). The power of the peer group on impressionable young minds is not to be underestimated! I'm sure we've all borne witness to this to some degree. I suspect some of the perceived attitude detected by those prone to poor use of grammar (particularly) and spelling (also) may stem from visible frustration on the part of the listener and/or reader; perhaps due to confusion and delay introduced by miscommunication, or perhaps disappointment with the quality of conversation. That is the case for me (though I try not to show it). Again, this is not unusual. How many times do you recall rejecting someone or retreating from a conversation because you couldn’t relate, or because you found the experience off-putting? In many instances the significance of such miscommunication may be small, but in some instances it may be quite significant. As an example, in one recent post in another thread, I asked whether I might be recognised by my profile photo. I_touch asked/suggested something to the effect "Jail?" I would say I may be a "Villein" but I am not a "Villain". (I might also be tempted to spell g-a-o-l were I up for a stir). Many in this forum (and not just in this thread) make reference to, make statements about, or otherwise express their understanding or expectations with regards "Respect". What of respect for our common language? I pointed out earlier there are three sides to every story. We can all surely agree our common language itself is entirely impartial (as is the truth). Whatever prejudices of either "his" side or "her" side, I believe the truth and our common language must be recognised worthy of the respect they rightly deserve. That is at least fair. Would you agree?
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10 years ago
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10 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1' Of Shakespere's death today. ...He invented over 1700 words ,his poems and plays make him immortal Q In Stratford-on-Avon the locals regularly piss on his grave, it's not considered disrespectful either.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'I_touch_myself2'Peachy all about timing and intent, same as grammar nazi's. Why do I feel like I'm in a classroom here. I tell you what, I'll leave you to it, enjoy On reflection, I can see how my post might have come across. It was not at all my intent to criticise you but a genuine apology that I chose not to say something because I thought you would get a different reaction due to your follow up post. :-) Quoting 'I_touch_myself2'OkaySo apparently the F's test has been highlighted as an 'IQ' test. Forgive my mistake posting it on this topic thread, with a special mention for Summer, thank you for pointing that out. I appreciate your attention to detail This is the follow up post I meant Summer, it was immediately after the post you responded to. Thank you for your explanation today, I have a lot more understanding of where you were coming from. Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
I was a foster child, I barely coped at school I was copping so much abuse at 'home'. Reading was the one thing I knew I was good at, and I'd even been abused for that because of the disbelief I was capable of reading a street sign. The time I mistook my FM's request for a bowl as being for a ball, I was forced to stand there and listen to her scream at me till I was forced to admit I was stupid. Yes, recounting that still makes me cry. I had no friends at school and made a lot of bad choices afterwards until I had the sense to settle with my other half just over half of my life ago. That's not even a fraction of my story. But I am proud of where I'm at. Oh yes, my bad Summer, I realise which post you meant now... I looked it up last night, something or other law? You mentioned it in reference to a Guardian article? It's on Annie's thread. I really would appreciate you sharing it here. FYI people, I do tend to notice typos a lot of the time. The accidental point they sometimes make can be quite funny. I'm still getting over Tribbling, which was a typo but turned out to be a real word! Whoda thunk it, eh? :-imperfect Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
It took me less than a minute to find using advanced (Summersolstice) and word search (guardian). I thought it was beautifully ironic when you take the definition into account. "Godwin's law" Wikipedia: Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"[2][3]—that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism. The first utterance of such comparison is called the Godwin point of the discussion. Promulgated by American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990,[2] Godwin's law originally referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions.[4] It is now applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms, and comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles, and other rhetoric.[5][6] In 2012, "Godwin's law" became an entry in the third edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.[7] Urban Dictionary:A term that originated on Usenet, Godwin's Law states that as an online argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Nazis. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin's Law has effectively forfieted the argument.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Thanks for a good read. For the formatting, try saving what you've written in your templates, you will see how it would come out and you can edit it to appear the way it should. Ironically, it is funny that your post reads very strangely because of the formatting. It came across as robotic. Must be one of those mind things. Quoting 'ontology'Peachy, The points people have made re: attitude have not been lost on me. I am one of those people who value and appreciate proper use of our language. I do not go about correcting people for incorrect usage, however I do form an impression. I do not think this is in any way unusual, abnormal, or unfair. People form judgements, opinions and attitudes on all manner of topics daily. I view the argument over proper use of language no differently to that of personal hygiene and presentation. To me they are rooted in the same basic principle; that being respect for self and others. Try as we might, none of us ever will like everyone or everything, but we may still manage to find respect on some level despite our dislikes (be that of people, or of “things”). Whilst I find poor grammar and spelling grates, I tend to let it slide. However, I do make an exception and I do correct my own young children in hope they don't slip into poor habit. They do not have "learning difficulties", and I'm sure they are not being taught poorly at school. Still (I have learnt by observation) my own kids will adopt poor language out of laziness, and/or a desire to fit in with other kids (some of whom use language poorly). The power of the peer group on impressionable young minds is not to be underestimated! I'm sure we've all borne witness to this to some degree. I suspect some of the perceived attitude detected by those prone to poor use of grammar (particularly) and spelling (also) may stem from visible frustration on the part of the listener and/or reader; perhaps due to confusion and delay introduced by miscommunication, or perhaps disappointment with the quality of conversation. That is the case for me (though I try not to show it). Again, this is not unusual. How many times do you recall rejecting someone or retreating from a conversation because you couldn’t relate, or because you found the experience off-putting? In many instances the significance of such miscommunication may be small, but in some instances it may be quite significant. As an example, in one recent post in another thread, I asked whether I might be recognised by my profile photo. I_touch asked/suggested something to the effect "Jail?" I would say I may be a "Villein" but I am not a "Villain". (I might also be tempted to spell g-a-o-l were I up for a stir). Many in this forum (and not just in this thread) make reference to, make statements about, or otherwise express their understanding or expectations with regards "Respect". What of respect for our common language? I pointed out earlier there are three sides to every story. We can all surely agree our common language itself is entirely impartial (as is the truth). Whatever prejudices of either "his" side or "her" side, I believe the truth and our common language must be recognised worthy of the respect they rightly deserve. That is at least fair. Would you agree? I'm not arguing against anyone's right to have personal choices and preferences. But looking at understanding, outside the norm.Haha yes, I still correct my adult children... they don't like it but one of them corrects me too, so now it's a running joke. Comprehension was part of my English lessons when I was at school but I do tend to retreat from conversations that fly over my head. ;-)Eh? Jail is the correct spelling these days? The English language is in constant flux, I have a love for thees and thous but the world moved on... and so must we. Summer, I see now that your Guardian post was a cross post by you in the first place, no wonder for the confusion... lol. & Empathy is: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. A curse as much as a blessing. Cheers, Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1'Empathy You are so right Peachy,even today children are endlessly tested,endlessly diagnosed,pigeon holed,labelled blah,blah,blah. There are so many variables in a child's life,love and care being one of the most important. Sometimes we flourish in spite of,not because of what is going on around us and to us. Many children with learning difficulties are bullied at school. If you don't fit in ,if you are different you become a target. It makes it doubly difficult to learn,to want to stay at school. I truly believe if those external barriers to learning,unfriendly classrooms,negative perceptions of the student ie lazy...or stupid ,then children would have a positive idea of themselves achieve more than they believe possible and we wouldn't have that dreadful statistic of 44 percent of working adults who are functionally illiterate in this country Q It is all true in my opinion, and I agree with the last. I only stayed in school long enough to get a leaver's certificate at the end of year 10 and got on with trying to take control my own life because it didn't look like it was happening that way. That didn't leave a lot of choice in the employment area but I was free. I do love crosswords and such though which kept me up with language I suppose. RHP has also been a font of wisdom in many areas. Emotionally and educationally. :-) Haha, well I just heard one of my adult kids call out to her partner for a beverage (aka beer in this case)... I must be doing something right. We're achieving a good balance here. LOL. :-Peachy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Spelling and grammatical errors do not bother me in the slightest as most people can unedrtsand even teh wurst typos and splelnig misateks .What fucking shits me is the pedantic posters that do not comprehend the above fact and add another unnecessary separate extra post to correct there minor mistake.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Their you go Ive just gone and done it myself.
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10 years ago
I've
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RHP User
10 years ago
I jerked myself this morning :p
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RHP User
10 years ago
twice last night.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1' That on Tuesday four of the students I support who have learning disabilities all independently completed two assignments...Their spelling was crap but who cares ,they really made a super effort because they believed they could... If kids walk into a classroom believing that they can't learn,they won't . PP you and I were so fortunate that we were encouraged to read,given books and or comics to read when we were very young.Children who are read to when very young have a head start. Many children are reluctant readers because they don't enjoy what is so hard for them to do There is a publisher now who is publishing using a font that is more accessible for kids who have dyslexia,I hope more publishers do this. Q After reading one of your comments some time ago, I called up Big Brothers Big Sisters Australia to see if they needed volunteers. I've always wanted to volunteer by sitting down with children after school to just read and get homework done. I'm always doing some sort of studying myself and I think it's good for children to actually see an adult enjoying the learning process so they don't view homework and studying as something dreadful. Too bad the BBBS do not have chapters in the city areas. Would you know if there are organisations that need volunteers to read to children from disadvantaged families?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Would I be correct to believe the following was directed at me?Quoting '0z_boy' Spelling and grammatical errors do not bother me in the slightest as most people can unedrtsand even teh wurst typos and splelnig misateks .What fucking shits me is the pedantic posters that do not comprehend the above fact and add another unnecessary separate extra post to correct there minor mistake. If so, I would suggest you have failed to comprehend my posts (Did you actually read them?) Further, you've failed to contribute anything new or interesting someone might consider in the discussion of this topic. What then was the point of your post? Your post here simply appears petulant. This surprises me after the laugh I had with your "second hand car ad" post in another thread. You know, just as people are free to disregard mistakes in grammar and spelling (as I usually do, and you imply you also do), people are also free to disregard posts they don't agree with, or which they don't understand. Still, the premise underpinning this entire thread is just how it is people communicate with one another to convey ideas and understanding. Whilst it may not be helpful (or convenient) to some to be asked or even expected to lift their standard of communication, you could also argue it's not helpful to good communication if people are pilloried for use of correct forms of language. Such petty tit for tat merely disrupts communication. A bit of patience from both sides would go much further. Would you agree? What fucking shits me is when people in this country (and others) become angry and aggressive with foreign language speakers (even those making genuine attempts to communicate with English as a second or subsequent language). You know the "talk English or go home" crowd? Their own English language skills are often quite poor. Having seen some of your other posts, I know you're not illiterate. At the same time, I hope you're not part of that fraternity(?).
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madotara69
10 years ago
Quoting 'Luck_Dragon' Quoting 'Summersolstice' I used to have a high IQ, and according to the scale was officially a genius. I was the best in my class, which didn't do me much good. It was just one more reason to be bullied, woop-de-doo.I was also more prone to depression (I believe that is linked), I always got top marks in school, finished year 12 with an OP1 (the highest ranking for those not familiar with the Qld OP system), continued to get top marks during my first degree and graduated with a first class Honours. Then, it all stalled, I developed some serious mental health issues, and the years since have been a huge struggle. I'm so close to finishing my second degree which is the key to getting myself out of the rut I'm in, but there is every chance I could still fuck it up for myself because if I have any talent it's fucking things up for myself. I'd trade all those top school and uni marks for a brain that doesn't give me the grief it does every single day, and for a more 'normal' life (whatever that is I guess...but what I do know is I see people who are so easygoing, who aren't really phased by anything, and I wish I could be like them). I've never taken a formal or even informal IQ test but I'd be willing to bet that the years of mental health struggles and self-abuse have affected my cognition. I certainly know it affects things like my attention span and ability to concentrate, and pretty sure my memory as well. So yeah, high IQ and being perfect on paper isn't everything, not by a long shot. Said he was not a genius, only 'passionately curious'.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'ontology' Would I be correct to believe the following was directed at me?Quoting '0z_boy' Spelling and grammatical errors do not bother me in the slightest as most people can unedrtsand even teh wurst typos and splelnig misateks .What fucking shits me is the pedantic posters that do not comprehend the above fact and add another unnecessary separate extra post to correct there minor mistake. If so, I would suggest you have failed to comprehend my posts (Did you actually read them?) Further, you've failed to contribute anything new or interesting someone might consider in the discussion of this topic. What then was the point of your post? Your post here simply appears petulant. This surprises me after the laugh I had with your "second hand car ad" post in another thread. You know, just as people are free to disregard mistakes in grammar and spelling (as I usually do, and you imply you also do), people are also free to disregard posts they don't agree with, or which they don't understand. Still, the premise underpinning this entire thread is just how it is people communicate with one another to convey ideas and understanding. Whilst it may not be helpful (or convenient) to some to be asked or even expected to lift their standard of communication, you could also argue it's not helpful to good communication if people are pilloried for use of correct forms of language. Such petty tit for tat merely disrupts communication. A bit of patience from both sides would go much further. Would you agree? What fucking shits me is when people in this country (and others) become angry and aggressive with foreign language speakers (even those making genuine attempts to communicate with English as a second or subsequent language). You know the "talk English or go home" crowd? Their own English language skills are often quite poor. Having seen some of your other posts, I know you're not illiterate. At the same time, I hope you're not part of that fraternity(?). Know I dint red youre posts, and youre grammer sucks two :p
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RHP User
10 years ago
I googled Literacy support,for kids in Melourne and there are a few program's listed. If there is a school near you contact them,most schools have program's after school . And then there are the adult literacy programs as well. Volunteering is a fantastic thing to do.,making a difference is just so rewarding Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
In my opinion, some mysteries/agendas are only worth so much effort. ;-) Peachy
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10 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1' I googled Literacy support,for kids in Melourne and there are a few program's listed. If there is a school near you contact them,most schools have program's after school . And then there are the adult literacy programs as well. Volunteering is a fantastic thing to do.,making a difference is just so rewarding Q I didn't know schools had that sort of programs! I'll call up the schools in my neighbourhood tomorrow. Thanks! PS. I just hope that my non-Aussie accent will not make me an instant reject! :(
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RHP User
10 years ago
Oz_boy, re: "Know I dint red youre posts, and youre grammer sucks two :p" wasn't directed at me, so you can disregard my last. Issue of timing I guess. Your previous post appeared soon after and relevant to my previous post (if you can follow that sequence). With regards my "What fucking shits me...", that was simply a bit of quid pro quo. You had shared your view, so I thought it fair to share one of my own views. Again, not a direct shot at you. Simply one of my own observations relevant to the topic at hand. Peachy, re: Robot. No. I'm a real boy ; )
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RHP User
10 years ago
It is almost always about the 'corrector' trying to prove to the 'correctee' and anybody else that is reading, how highly intelligent and how superior they are in the social group. I have a friend who is an engineer, he is very intelligent and his maths and engineering knowledge is astounding. But his spelling was always appalling (no it's not me, but yes, I am thankful for spell check). The day that we should publicly correct somebody's grammar or spelling is the day we should also feel comfortable publicly correcting/commenting on their weight and appearance, the way they manage their children how often they exercise, their career choices and anything else that is really none of our business.maybe we should ignore their grammar and be more mindful of whether the person is genuine and behaving in good faith to others. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
For education linked to teachers skills. But the education system hasn't changed in the basics for four hundred years. Many students who struggle do not thrive in a classroom environment ,they are not recognised as having a learning disability but they often exhibit behavioural problems and so the attention they get is negative. These kids are often deeply bored with the way information is presented to them. They don't understand WHY they are expected to learn subjects that they see as irrelevant to their lives. And I agree with them Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
Are crical to a child learning to read and write. Sometimes it's generational.Parents who are illiterate are not likely to be able to provide the supportive home learning environment that children need. Teachers can't fix this. It's fairly evident that if children are read to at home.if they ar encouraged to read are given books and comics.if they are encouraged to learn,then they will do well. One of the brightest students I know ,is also the saddest child I have met in four years.At home ,we suspect he is emotionally abused by his parents ,school for him is respite from home. So conversely he has an appetite for learning. I try and provide him with positive feedback about his achievements and each day try and make him laugh, Q
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10 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1'These kids are often deeply bored with the way information is presented to them. They don't understand WHY they are expected to learn subjects that they see as irrelevant to their lives. And I agree with them Q do you mean the presentation needs to change to first establish why something is relevant - or that the topic shouldn't be taught if they're not interested?
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think both..And some kids process information differently...I don't know a lot about the Swedish model but I know they are looking at a much more individualised approach . Personally I think incorporating literature that's written for young people is far more relevant to a fourteen year old than Shakespeare..just my opinion.Q
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RHP User
10 years ago
I don't entirely agree about Shakespeare, Q, because I believe that when it is taught appropriately, it can be a fascinating textual and cultural study. Unfortunately it is often not delivered in the most engaging way. I do believe that there should be a balance of literature that is designed for a teenage audience, as well as a variety of other texts that are suitable. There needs to be a considered approach about the texts that are taught, as well as the way that the lessons are delivered, so that students are more likely to be able to "get it". One of my most successful Shakespeare units was taught to a bunch of boys who were all far more interested in rap music than reading. They got so much from it, because I spent a lot of time personalising the lessons and designing engaging activities for them. I do agree, though, that a lot of kids don't see the point. And, given the way that some classes are delivered, I don't blame them. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Just stopped by to see if there was a grammar thread I should catch up on. I'm conscientious, but also very open. Which I think means I notice all your grammatical errors but accept them - perhaps like some form of new age art i don't truly understand but pretend to appreciate just in case it's cool. I'm a bit introverted, so I'm judging you all quietly. But I'm also quite disagreeable, so I'm going to have to point out that missing the point of the topic is far more annoying than responding with average grammar. I'm also supremely calm, so I'm going to let it slide for now.
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10 years ago
Quoting 'SimonDoes'I Just stopped by to see if there was a grammar thread that I should catch up on. I'm conscientious, but Im also very open. Which I think means that I notice all OF your grammatical errors but accept them - perhaps like some form of new age art i don't truly understand but pretend to appreciate just in case it's cool. I'm a little bit introverted, so I'm judging you all quietly. But I'm also quite disagreeable, so I'm going to have to point out that missing the point of the topic is far more annoying than responding with average grammar. I'm also supremely calm, so I'm going to let it slide for now. hehe just sayin :p 👮
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RHP User
10 years ago
What if conscientiousness is making up for a deficit in intelligence? I reread what I was reading when I made my first post in this thread, and in there was a discussion on a theory called the "Intelligence Compensation Theory" that states exactly that. So maybe those judged as being less intelligent, by those high on conscientiousness, should be having a smirk? Not sure of the support behind the theory - I mean it is just a theory, but I am guessing that intelligence and conscientiousness are probably pretty independent. Maybe we should all do a Raven's test before posting on the forums. I think there is nothing wrong with loving the art of a well-crafted sentence, but go easy on those who don't appreciate or care about the same thing. They may just have the edge, on some another facet.
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10 years ago
Quoting 'PepperRose' Maybe we should all do a Raven's test before posting on the forums. I did the Rorschach test once but they all looked like vaginas to me. When questioned by the woman who was conducting the test I did concede that one did look a little more like a butterfly than a cunt. 🙈🙉🙊
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am generally more corrective of my own typing. The for Teh - is that not obvious to everyone that it is a mistake ? The use of tense incorrectly does disturb me but i usually never comment. I put it down to the fact that not long after my schooling they stopped hitting people for getting it wrong. The day that i can't read it is when I will complain. By the way - that article is grammatically correct.
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RHP User
10 years ago
SimonDoes, your post made me laugh out loud. And PepperRose, your last paragraph? That just about sums it up for me. xoxo - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I must have seen a different set. All I saw were vulvas
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RHP User
10 years ago
Subject Euro-English Author (edit - withheld) Date and Time on 11/09 at 12:19 PM ZE10 Category Joke Who is this entry aimed at? (edit - withheld) Life of Document 23109/97 (Document will be deleted after this date) The European Commission have just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase in plan that would be known as "EuroEnglish". In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c'. sertainly, this will make the civil servants jump for joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter. In the third year, publik aksentanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e's in the language is disgraceful, and they should go away. By the 4th year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o"kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz year, ye vil hay a realy sensibi riten styl. zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand each ozer. ZE DREAM VIL FINALI KUM TRU!
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RHP User
10 years ago
...care of hardcopy scan to text via MFC printer. Ironic, huh? Never in recent discussions (or indeed any time in the past 19 years), have I heard Euro-English being a contributing factor or feature of the debate on the upcoming Brexit vote. ; )
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madotara69
10 years ago
Quoting 'usrightnow' Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' From Cambridge University: Olny srmat poelpe can raed tihs. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !! Sorry, for some reason it won't let me write below in ordinary type. Wonderful example that illustrates the point I made earlier in the thread, that we do readily understand the writer's intention. Our brains really are quite amazing. The only word I hesitated for a moment at, was "mess". The rest, no problem. Thanks for bringing such a great example to our attention. Oh, and loved the 6 "F" piece below. I only got 4, completely missing the two on the second line. So, I'll have to look for another test to prove I'm a genius, 😃😃. But I am rare 😃 (Mr. urn). Just a glitch, see it's happened to me now, so I change the tone Also when copy pasting, use 'copy paste match style"
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madotara69
10 years ago
Quoting 'usrightnow', Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' 'From Cambridge University: Olny srmat poelpe can raed tihs.I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !! And 'patse mtach stlye'
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'madotara69' Quoting 'usrightnow' Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' From Cambridge University: Olny srmat poelpe can raed tihs. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !! Sorry, for some reason it won't let me write below in ordinary type. Wonderful example that illustrates the point I made earlier in the thread, that we do readily understand the writer's intention. Our brains really are quite amazing. The only word I hesitated for a moment at, was "mess". The rest, no problem. Thanks for bringing such a great example to our attention. Oh, and loved the 6 "F" piece below. I only got 4, completely missing the two on the second line. So, I'll have to look for another test to prove I'm a genius, 😃😃. But I am rare 😃 (Mr. urn). Just a glitch, see it's happened to me now, so I change the tone Also when copy pasting, use 'copy paste match style" The reply to quote is inside a box. The trick is to get your reply outside that box. Then it moves across to the left a little. Quite a sight to see when you get a dozen or two going down. Peachy
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madotara69
10 years ago
Peachy,.. so sexy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Peachy
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madotara69
10 years ago
your'e welcome, it's also in the dilemma, should you ever find the need, 17 , in fact makes the template size of the box, for the words when posting, so much the differance,all 7 of these down here, are and were still up there above, meaning this box for the words needs 24's
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'eviemagic' Yes, I'm a grammar nerd, so spank me…………………... Me too!
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RHP User
9 years ago
I'm not sure how much you followed my updates on the original article I read. One of the things I noticed is that there was no mention of Jerk in the oriģinal study but that nearly all the articles generated from there used Jerk ìn the headline. So, I agree with you essentially that there is no one easy answer because as you say we are all different. Have a look further back if you'd like to check out the heading for the original study. Peachy xo
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1' You are right.People who have poor literacy and numeracy skills are at severe disadvantage when it comes to work choices. Nearly 50 per cent of Australian adults fall into this catergory,the education system is seriously failing them. Q It appeared in a recent publication (June 2016). I do not know when it was written. An Old Time Teacher He was an old time teacher,A pillar of his town,Chaired all its committees,Never let you down,Went to church on Sundays,Played our native games,For his erudition,He was widely famed. He ran his school for forty yearsAnd in all that timeHis work was satisfactory,His school did fine. Then came the New Curriculum,The inspectors swooped like fliesDescending upon the teachersBut this old and wisePrincipal wasn't flummoxed,He simply carried on;When the inspector asked him for his notesHe told them there were none."And how then can you plan your work?"He replied: "By ChristmastimeIf I don't see the staples in the middle of the book,I know that I'm behind." But those days are overAnd teaching is moreAbout ticking in boxes,Common sense gone out the door.And the old time teachersWho served their country wellTalk of falling standards,Their profession gone to hell. Gabriel Fitzmaurice
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RHP User
9 years ago
Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh.As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever wrong.Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew.
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RHP User
9 years ago
This thread really knocked grammar shaming and literacy bashing out of forums.
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RHP User
9 years ago
That's kind of you to say! I'm glad for all the support on the thread. Cheers, Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
FLY-SPECK, n. The prototype of punctuation. It is observed by Garvinus that the systems of punctuation in use by the various literary nations depended originally upon the social habits and general diet of the flies infesting the several countries. These creatures, which have always been distinguished for a neighborly and companionable familiarity with authors, liberally or niggardly embellish the manuscripts in process of growth under the pen, according to their bodily habit, bringing out the sense of the work by a species of interpretation superior to, and independent of, the writer's powers. The "old masters" of literature — that is to say, the early writers whose work is so esteemed by later scribes and critics in the same language — never punctuated at all, but worked right along free-handed, without that abruption of the thought which comes from the use of points. (We observe the same thing in children to-day, whose usage in this particular is a striking and beautiful instance of the law that the infancy of individuals reproduces the methods and stages of development characterizing the infancy of races.) In the work of these primitive scribes all the punctuation is found, by the modern investigator with his optical instruments and chemical tests, to have been inserted by the writers' ingenious and serviceable collaborator, the common house-fly — Musca maledicta. In transcribing these ancient MSS, for the purpose of either making the work their own or preserving what they naturally regard as divine revelations, later writers reverently and accurately copy whatever marks they find upon the papyrus or parchment, to the unspeakable enhancement of the lucidity of the thought and value of the work. Writers contemporary with the copyists naturally avail themselves of the obvious advantages of these marks in their own work, and with such assistance as the flies of their own household may be willing to grant, frequently rival and sometimes surpass the older compositions, in respect at least of punctuation, which is no small glory. Fully to understand the important services that flies perform to literature it is only necessary to lay a page of some popular novelist alongside a saucer of cream-and-molasses in a sunny room and observe "how the wit brightens and the style refines" in accurate proportion to the duration of exposure. c/- The Devil's Dictionary (Ambrose Bierce - published 1911)
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RHP User
9 years ago
ORTHOGRAPHY, n. The science of spelling by the eye instead of the ear. Advocated with more heat than light by the outmates of every asylum for the insane. They have had to concede a few things since the time of Chaucer, but are none the less hot in defence of those to be conceded hereafter. A spelling reformer indicted For fudge was before the court cicted. The judge said: "Enough — His candle we'll snough, And his sepulchre shall not be whicted." c/- The Devil's Dictionary (Ambrose Bierce. Published 1911).
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RHP User
9 years ago
Sounds like an excuse to be lazy. But then, half the teachers these days cant spell and have poor grammar. I have to admit that i have become lazy in this area myself. The advent of technology has not helped any. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Some teachers can't spell,my daughter being one of them.She had remedial help all through primary school She now has a Masters in Education and working towards another Masters. Today she left for NZ on a ski trip with ten students giving up a week of her holidays,the second time this year she has given up her holidays. She is the least lazy person I know. I work in a school as a teacher aide,IMO which is an informed one,teachers are definitely not lazy. As I have stated over and over again,poor spelling has nothing to do with being lazy..there are numerous reasons a form of dyslexia being only one.. Ignorance surrounding this issue is far more about laziness than poor spelling. Q
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RHP User
9 years ago
'Oxford comma helps drivers win dispute about overtime pay' Elena Cresci The Guardian 2242 AEDT 16MAR17
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RHP User
9 years ago
You know, I can't and wouldn't at all deny the 'need' for grammar in many situations! But then there are moments that are more of a 'want' in my opinion. I used to be more up myself about it but I am no star and have to recognise the heart as well as the brain.Peachy
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