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Married Women Open Relationships
October 12 2012
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RHP User
13 years ago
A relationship is about RESPECT.You are not in a relationship and I suggest to you strongly that you get some help from a professional.If you think divorce is an ugly option then wait till he finds out .. that will get ugly.Now if you are moody, ups and downs, get urges for sex, where ever when ever it's likely thatyou have Bi-polar and can not help it. It's better treated before it becomes a violence problem.G
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RHP User
13 years ago
Most people who are in an open relationship, generally are secure within what they have and have good comminucationnuff said
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'couplesint'I'm going to hell l...oh no..lol Consiering what the people are like who feel assured of their place in heaven, I'm happy to be going downstairs with the interesting folk. I hope hell is segregated though. I don't want to be spending eternity with any of these bigots.
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RHP User
13 years ago
@Brazilian_girl Are you only doing this for revenge?
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RHP User
13 years ago
kinda a mix of revenge and this is something i wanna do for me...its a big confidence booster and i think i deserve a bit of fun after all the yrs of been faithful and the good wife dont u? fcuk it...lifes too short and the prick needs a taste of his own poison me thinks ;) Quoting '2_Passion_Fruits' @Brazilian_girl Are you only doing this for revenge?
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RHP User
13 years ago
we have an open marrage we are very happy and in love after 20 years and it work for us. 100% honest and if we didnt that would be call cheating and thats a big NO NO so u think its better to go behind your husbands back come on think about u are doing more harm then good best of luck if thats how u play
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Brazilian_girl'the only reason i joined this site was because i found out my husband of 15 yrs had a profile on here and has been cheating on me from the word go...SO NOT COOL...but u know what they say....whats good for the goose ...ive already met some really lovely and gorgeous men whom im looking forward to meet soon ;) ah revenge is sweet .... soo...2 wrongs make a right? seems to me that all you would be doing is telling him its ok....and validating his poor behaviour..... why not just give him the flick, and cut loose as a single woman? why lower your standards to his?
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RHP User
13 years ago
I would never feel right playing without my partner. I feel each to their own and everyone does what ever they do for a reason, just make it for the right reason, everything you do has an effect on someone else make that effect one that is memorable and enjoyable . Your partner is called that for a reason to do things together, if you can't share everything together you are with the wrong person.
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RHP User
13 years ago
It's not called lowering your standards to his, it's called setting your own standards.
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RHP User
13 years ago
yep exactly!! i dont think 2 wrongs make a right...though i do remember my maths teacher saying something about 2 negatives making a positive....i fully intend to dump the slimy creep...but not before i make him suffer a bit of what i have...how will he feel that pain if hes not here? call me a sadist but, ive been a good honest faithful wife all these yrs and it was HIS doing that has made me turn wicked...ahh.... just had my first encounter yesterday...gorgeous 31 yr old hunk of man...just what the doctor ordered.....NEXT!! :p Quoting 'jensman1903' It's not called lowering your standards to his, it's called setting your own standards.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I say good on ya Brazilian girl...you do what you feel is right for you. Better than being bitter and twisted for years after they did that to you. You go get em girl...make yourself feel good and move on.. Leesa xx
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RHP User
13 years ago
thanks honey <3
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RHP User
13 years ago
She is gonna dump him she said, so good for her. Leesa
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RHP User
13 years ago
Confuscius said Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves Im not judging you at all Brazilian_girl and fully appreciate and understand your pain and I certainly dont condone your hubbys actions. But - there is a priceto be paid for everything and I mean everything
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RHP User
13 years ago
I joined this site to get laid.. Pure and simple.. no bullshit.. no judging anyone.. Do I cheat on my partners? Yes.Do I cheat on my time sheets at work? Yes Do I cheat on my tax income? Yes Do I cheat at cards? Yes Do I cheat at board games? Yes. Well.. bend me over and fck me like the dog I am. And.. to everyone who won't allow a person to be themelves.. and to express themselves.. EVEN if they cheat..... ??? FCK YOU :) ANYONE want to cheat? message.. or flirt.. I will get back to you!!
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RHP User
13 years ago
what can i say?? lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
is that a bit like an 'ol cougar,an 'ol cheetah...or maybe a lion-cheetah?.x R
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RHP User
13 years ago
Miss melb, situation is to b considered at any given time, nothing really complicated, if u thing ur partner is good enough to understand the issue, it really goes well. However the other side, seriously u don't wanna think abt it. None can judge any, stick to ' PLAY SAFE' h
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RHP User
13 years ago
Agree peachy...the sooner the better. Xxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
i dont see how using someone elses transgression as a justification to do the same, can be called 'setting standards'...to me, thats 'abandoning standards'.... playing his game just says 'look at me, i'm just like you'...doesnt it?....for me, being 'just like' the woman who cheated on me, was the last thing i wanted.... i'd been the good honest and faithful fiance.....and when i left it was with my dignity intact. .....i thought this was the best option, even tho i had plenty of opportunity to do to her, what she'd done to me.......i thought the 'golden rule' said 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'....... i treat my partners with respect, dignity and kindness, and its what i'd always received in return....finding out that the one i loved, didnt give a shit about me, or how i felt, kinda rocked my world to the core, but didnt change how i treated her....i just didnt want to be near to her any more...........not passing judgement, just asking questions and expressing opinions and experiences....
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RHP User
13 years ago
Just good for her not allowing herself to feel ugly, yuk and wasted life. Cause that is what cheating does to you. It makes you bitter and low in self esteem. I say good for her, because she said she was feeling wanted and that was good. I can see that she will do well, she will move on and she will feel good about herself. What is wrong with that. Nothing I say.. Xxx leesa
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'couplesint'Agree peachy...the sooner the better. Xxx which was the whole sentiment behind my post........ give the creep the flick.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'cavey50' I joined this site to get laid.. Pure and simple.. no bullshit.. no judging anyone.. Do I cheat on my partners? Yes.Do I cheat on my time sheets at work? Yes Do I cheat on my tax income? Yes Do I cheat at cards? Yes Do I cheat at board games? Yes. Well.. bend me over and fck me like the dog I am. And.. to everyone who won't allow a person to be themelves.. and to express themselves.. EVEN if they cheat..... ??? FCK YOU :) ANYONE want to cheat? message.. or flirt.. I will get back to you!! Look I have cards on the table and a game of chest and how about you bring the snake and i have ladders in my stockings you bad bad cave man...just what a woman needs a good hair pulling and you can cheat on me so long as I can watch
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RHP User
13 years ago
...I adhere to it closer than you do. Having different standards to yours doesn't make them lesser or lower or even abandoned. It just makes them different but you refuse to recognise my right to my own set of values. The fault here is with you. It would help if you tried to be at least a little considerate of others.
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RHP User
13 years ago
u hit the nail on the head Leesa. bless u girl xxxx Quoting 'couplesint' Just good for her not allowing herself to feel ugly, yuk and wasted life. Cause that is what cheating does to you. It makes you bitter and low in self esteem. I say good for her, because she said she was feeling wanted and that was good. I can see that she will do well, she will move on and she will feel good about herself. What is wrong with that. Nothing I say.. Xxx leesa
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' i dont see how using someone elses transgression as a justification to do the same, can be called 'setting standards'...to me, thats 'abandoning standards'.... playing his game just says 'look at me, i'm just like you'...doesnt it?....for me, being 'just like' the woman who cheated on me, was the last thing i wanted.... i'd been the good honest and faithful fiance.....and when i left it was with my dignity intact. .....i thought this was the best option, even tho i had plenty of opportunity to do to her, what she'd done to me.......i thought the 'golden rule' said 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'....... i treat my partners with respect, dignity and kindness, and its what i'd always received in return....finding out that the one i loved, didnt give a shit about me, or how i felt, kinda rocked my world to the core, but didnt change how i treated her....i just didnt want to be near to her any more...........not passing judgement, just asking questions and expressing opinions and experiences.... But everyone deals with crap in their own way. Some will prefer revenge, others would rather take the moral highground and be the better person. Each to their own, and if it makes you feel stronger and more able to leave the original relationship then do what you have to do. If on the other hand revenge is going to leave you with guilt and a negative view of yourself then its probably not a good idea.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Mike, I enjoy our posts but this one I say I have to disagree. It seems to me that you were cheated on and you are very bitter about it, hence all your posts. I too have been cheated on, but I think what Brazilian is saying is that she is looking out for her...and good on her...I say. If she leaves this relationship feeling good about herself and not bitter,... I say she has won won won. She has said she won't be staying , she is not lowering her self to his standard, she is finding herself again after years of marriage that she feels has been wasted . It seems she is looking out for her now, and that's one strong woman..not a weak lady that is taking revenge on her hubby, but a woman that feels great about herself and plans on moving on. Maybe if you had focused on you and not felt so bitter about being cheated on, your comments would be different than they are and you would not be so harsh when people choose to think about themselves just for once. I say that in the nicest way of course and don't mean any undue stress my my comments to you. I just think that Brazilian is showing true courage and strength and will leave her relationship NOT a bitter person but a lady with strength and courage to go it by herself in the world. Leesa xxxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
u re saying everything i am thinking leesa. thank u... a couple of weeks ago when i found out , i almost crumbled into depression...but i chose to pick my sad ass off the floor and do something for me for a change...i sifted thru the dozens of messages i received in here, started chatting with one particular guy i connected with, and went for it!...i have never felt so alive and content after a day of sexy passion...i feel rejuvenated and younger...i dont regret it for a minute. its just what i needed to help pull me thru....meanwhile hubby has been a miserable ol focker ...so there u have it...deed done...now i can get on with my life ;) xxxxx B_G :) Quoting 'couplesint' Mike, I enjoy our posts but this one I say I have to disagree. It seems to me that you were cheated on and you are very bitter about it, hence all your posts. I too have been cheated on, but I think what Brazilian is saying is that she is looking out for her...and good on her...I say. If she leaves this relationship feeling good about herself and not bitter,... I say she has won won won. She has said she won't be staying , she is not lowering her self to his standard, she is finding herself again after years of marriage that she feels has been wasted . It seems she is looking out for her now, and that's one strong woman..not a weak lady that is taking revenge on her hubby, but a woman that feels great about herself and plans on moving on. Maybe if you had focused on you and not felt so bitter about being cheated on, your comments would be different than they are and you would not be so harsh when people choose to think about themselves just for once. I say that in the nicest way of course and don't mean any undue stress my my comments to you. I just think that Brazilian is showing true courage and strength and will leave her relationship NOT a bitter person but a lady with strength and courage to go it by herself in the world. Leesa xxxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
i just think she'd be better off going first and enjoying the play absolutely pang free...why load up what should be an enjoyable experience, with feelings of animosity and resentment. seems i have the whole 'golden rule' thing wrong....is it not about respect, trust and care then? is it not about doing the right thing in the face of adversity? bugger me..... i had it wrong....maybe i should throw my arms up and abuse my wife every time something goes sour, or fall into someone elses bed every time the sex dries up....lol.. well fuck me swinging.... oh...and my ex ended up married (18 months after we seperated)...she cheated on this guy as well...he divorced her quick smart, and blow me over....shes engaged to be married again....20 months after her divorce...but to another friends ex husband, who she cheated with while with me.... lol.... i'm not bitter...i think its hilariously funny...
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'couplesint'Just good for her not allowing herself to feel ugly, yuk and wasted life. Cause that is what cheating does to you. It makes you bitter and low in self esteem. I say good for her, because she said she was feeling wanted and that was good. I can see that she will do well, she will move on and she will feel good about herself. What is wrong with that. Nothing I say.. Xxx leesa yea i agree with most of what you say here, its exactly how cheating makes you feel....and how being abused makes you feel as well.........but why load play up with angst by making it about revenge?....give the guy the flick, and play openly and honestly.... using his behaviour as a reason to end a relationship is one thing, but as a driver to play? i dont get that at all...........as a guy who played here when single, i'd have been a bit uneasy playing with someone who was motivated by the need for 'revenge', as i'm sure a woman would be as well.......i'd like to think it was me that interested her, and not getting even with someone else...it would feel like there was a silent and invisible extra in the room somewhere....
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have two basic rules I won't even consider married women and I have a problem when there is a big age diff as well, but's that's just all my hang ups. seems to be contrary to what this site is about tho. each their own
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RHP User
13 years ago
...but we don't all share your values and our values are as valid as yours. We have the right to live our life our way without having you try to tell us incessantly thay we're doing it wrong. You are not the moral arbitor. What you say about the golden rule is fine too, where it applies to you but you have such a narrow focus on it. It doesn't only apply to close personal relationships. You would not accept having anyone else try to tell you hpw to live so don't do it to us. It's hypercritical.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Mike...trust me when i say..it was my husbands cheating that drove me here...but it was pure lust that made me have sex with the said guy...there was no invisible silent extra in the room..just me and him...and im sure he didnt mind if it was only about the sex...he wasnt looking for romance and neither was i...its all good ;) so please just let me enjoy the afterglow without guilt...ur kinda killing it for me :p x
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RHP User
13 years ago
Sometimes it is just not that simple to just get up and leave..trust me I know, I planned my leaving for 6 months , I had 3 children and a mortgage..there are some things that need to be tidied up. It is not just clear cut. So if she wants to feel good about herself...good on her. Doesn't mean I agree, just that I am honest and open enough to see through it all, and know that some people can't do it like you say Mike...it just isn't that simple. Leesa xxx I am done now wasted too much energy on this thread..my fingers hurt from typing ..lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
all good...when it comes to the push and shove of the real world, the only people who really matter are those who we share our lives with. I just cant imagine what would motivate a person to deceive or betray their 'loved' one....never have, never will.... luckily, thats not an issue in our household, neither of us is driven to step beyond the boundaries we sat down and agreed to...but then, we've both been exposed to the worst of people, and have no desire to ever have any of those things we dont agree with, colour our lives again..... wont support infidelity, cant agree to dishonesty, and will never tolerate deception...for those who see these things as non issues in their lives...good luck...but dont expect even a single word of understanding and acceptance from me, because i wont ever do either..........
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RHP User
13 years ago
Well Mike sometimes it is okay to keep your thoughts to yourself, you could just be making someone feel really bad about themselves when they should be trying to feel good about themselves. No need to dictate to some people that is all.They know what they do is not right, but if it takes away a little pain and makes them feel good for a bit ,who are we to judge.We should never tell anyone what they do is WRONG...it is there choice...we may not agree, but we dont have to say it so harsh and judge them over and over again.What your choices are , are yours. and what others choices are , are theirs , it is not our place to dictate to them on right and wrong , especially when they are driven by grief and other matters. I support anyone in any decisions they make in life no matter if i agree or not, people are human and make mistakes and we all deserve to be treated with respect.Thats all i got.Leesa xxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
...nobody expects a single word of understanding or acceptance from you. You have demonstrated, beyond the shadow of any doubt, that you have neither. ...and I think that what you mean is that you'll never tolerate deception from anyone else as you've been more than happy to employ it yourself.
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RHP User
13 years ago
HE cheated on ME!! remember?? sheesh..
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RHP User
13 years ago
The comments, that have offended you, come from a vindictive, small minded, damaged individual with a pathological need to tear down decent people to maintain his own pretense of moral superiority. I personally believe that he thoroughly deserved every thing that has happened to him and I find his very existence abhorrent while most people simply pity him but no one takes him seriously. The only person you need to justify your actions to is yourself and there was plenty of justification there. Still, to be on the safe side, ....GO OUT AND DO IT AGAIN.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Brazilian, please ignore his comments, know that majority of open minded adults do understand what you are saying. Hugs leesa
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RHP User
13 years ago
xxx thanks babes
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RHP User
13 years ago
I tend to agree with hardtruckin, the question is is it right or not that your doing it, the question is are you been honest in your relationship. You have not mentioned it but you may have disscussed the idea of you haveing sex outside of your relationship. And ne may have said no f@#*ing way and so this maybe an option what your doing by doing it behind his back. But.... if you have not discussed this with him you might be surprised at his response. You can only suggest it and he may find that if he was allowed to do it also perhaps he may get interested again in having more sex with you. My wife and i started by generally discussing swinging after joking about someone been one, i dont think either of us really knew what it was at that point but after finding out it sounded interesting. I must admit i was reluctant but you cant judge unless you have tried it so we did. From this point on our relationship has been stronger and we have sex a lot more with each other than we ever did. Anyway its different for everyone but i hope at least you have given him the oppitunity to accept it, be part of it or hate it but at least your been open with him and he cant ask much more than that. If he hates it and your needs are still there, well what he wont know wont hurt him as long as you respect the situation and him in your process of find the things you need. cheers
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RHP User
13 years ago
I could never have an 'open' relationship with a spouse for fear of crushing them if they found out. you might have a whole life planned with this person, and the security of being with them, but just need that something 'extra'.I guess if it is agreed on ok, but then WHY be married?For a long time for me it was the 'thrill' of cheating with a married woman, and really putting it to her so that she will NEVER forget what i did to her when she goes home to hubby, and thinks of me while banging him.maybe an ego thing.My problem was i couldnt live with myself for what I did, and i was cheating for some reason, so I left, it was not fair to her.While I welcome the idea of a 3 way with a couple, I cant figure out how they can do it, and maybe it does enhance their marriage somehow.I am more than happy to help:)
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RHP User
13 years ago
I think I will have to be with you both when you catch up with each other :) *grins*...
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On_Safari
13 years ago
Yes I agree, everyone's doing IT even the people you couldn't imagine. I'm not a promiscuous person by nature errrr I think!?!?! Until a few years ago I never looked at another man, my husband was all I ever wanted or needed. People and situations change however. I met a younger man (32 at the time, I was 36) who spent 6mths trying to convince me he wanted me, when I finally took him seriously I pinned him against a wall at work and kissed him passionately. He went to water, just about burst into tears before my eyes. I was devastated....humiliated. He then proceeded to brag that I had "come onto him" in my heavily male orientated workplace. Did I say humiliating? The men there never believed it because I was who I was and had never mixed business with pleasure before. Not big on shitting where I eat....needless to say though that "energy sucker" has moved on. It left me doubting my devotion to my husband because I had been tempted by such a poor excuse for a man. I left my hubby for 8mths, met another and he also was a nightmare..... Came home, met a lover who I spent 2yrs with before he died of leukemia, told hubby about him because if he needed me I was going to be there. It hurt him but he allowed it. I have discussed having an open relationship with him. He doesn't want to, we sleep in seperate rooms and basically live seperate lives. I have to leave eventually, he deserves more than I can give him anymore and selfishly I want more than he can give me as well. I have friends in open marriages/relationships that work very well. (sigh) not sure if it's really what I want either but for now.....I am here, lying to my hubby; possibly lying to myself as well. Damn you guys for touching on a delicate subject and making me reflect. Maybe I am selfish....
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RHP User
13 years ago
I think the confusion I have here with this thread is this .....QUOTE "What's with the open relationships??? -- It just doesn't seem right" "I am married but like most of us here looking for discreet encounters I would never be honest and open enough to let my partner know what I have been doing - Let alone have his permission to play"(Damn I wish I knew how to paste something someone else had written - would have saved a lot of time)Why people do what they do is up to the individuals (and not for me to judge) , but I find someone who is "cheating" to be judging those who are "open" to be completely judgemental.Pls go easy on me --- This could be my first and last forum post LMAO
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'On_Safari' Maybe I am selfish.... Everyone is selfish. Every decision we make is based on our own needs even the otherwise apparently 'selfless' acts. A person who puts themselves in harm's way to save another would probably be unable to live with themselves had they done nothing. For example, I could not possibly be happy if Jennylee were miserable so, in a way, making her happy is selfish of me. You only have one life to live. Do what makes you happy. Rest assured that everyone else is doing the same.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Elle_Dee00'(Damn I wish I knew how to paste something someone else had written - would have saved a lot of time) It's easy enough to copy a reply post, you just click on "Reply with Quote" to the top-right of the post window. To copy what's written in the original post (aka. OP or thread topic) left-click on your mouse and highlight the area you wish to quote. Then right-click and select "copy". Then come down here to "Your Comment:" right-click again and select "paste". I don't think the OP was passing judgement just questioning a concept she didn't understand. At least that's the way I read it. I'd like to hear more from her and whether her opinions have altered with all the replies she's recieved but she may have been scared off by now. I hope this isn't your first and last post.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Well.... I read the ORIGINAL post obviously differently then a lot of people on here. Maybe I wont do a great job of explaining it either. There was once apon a time that I BELIEVED it was not right (as in: intolerable, not suitable, distasteful, unsatisfactory - ALL in relation only to a full and successful relationship) to chose an OPEN relationship. I also did think this AS WELL AS and at the same time as I was playing up on my partner/s. WHY I played up on my partner, and WHY I chose to do it does NOT come into this arguement at all. Some people gamble, and hide it from their partner. Some people drink and hide it from their partner Some people smoke and hide it from their partner. Some people fck others and hide it from their partner Some people masterbate and hide it from their partner. Some people eat chocolate, drink coffee, eat meat... and hide it from their partners.. Some people nick shit from shops.. some nick shit from work Some people cheat on taxes OR the dole.. Cheating is cheating is cheating. The OP is honest on here.. (so it appears) and what she does as far as her personal relationship is concerned, is NOT our issue. I did NOT read the original post as being judgemental.. I read it as the OP saying it wouldn't be right in her eyes to have an open relationship with her partner. OTherwise she MAY have posted as Follows... "You dirty pricks who share open relationships are fckd!!! you have no balls toward committments..." "I am committed to my relationship.. I just need extra sex!!" Stuff like that.. :) Maybe those who read it as being judgemental have a persecution complex.. I dunno... :) *chuckles* I sure do have a lot to say for a fella who claims he "Dunno" eh :)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Well said. I DON"T believe in LOVE.. and I DON'T believe in ALTRUISM "I do shit for others because it is the RIGHT thing to do.." Bullshit... You do it cavey.. because sometimes you feel guilty you have shit and others don't (or something like that) You do it cavey, because you feel GOOD doing it.. Altruism is Symbiotic: therefore, it is NOT altruism :) AND... EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT I MAKE IS A LIE!!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Brazilian_girl' Mike...trust me when i say..it was my husbands cheating that drove me here...but it was pure lust that made me have sex with the said guy...there was no invisible silent extra in the room..just me and him...and im sure he didnt mind if it was only about the sex...he wasnt looking for romance and neither was i...its all good ;) so please just let me enjoy the afterglow without guilt...ur kinda killing it for me :p x You're the only person who can decide if you should feel guilt and if you think spending your time playing mind games with your husband is going to make yourself feel better about yourself and your relationship, good for you.Personally I believe some things aren't worth throwing away your self respect and dignity. He never stole them from you.MrsSplicey
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RHP User
13 years ago
and Quoting 'jensman1903' Quoting 'On_Safari' Maybe I am selfish.... Everyone is selfish. Every decision we make is based on our own needs even the otherwise apparently 'selfless' acts. A person who puts themselves in harm's way to save another would probably be unable to live with themselves had they done nothing. For example, I could not possibly be happy if Jennylee were miserable so, in a way, making her happy is selfish of me. You only have one life to live. Do what makes you happy. Rest assured that everyone else is doing the same.and I do what makes me happy so alls good. lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Splicey' Splicey..u are an idiot...so go f yourself honey Quoting 'Brazilian_girl' Mike...trust me when i say..it was my husbands cheating that drove me here...but it was pure lust that made me have sex with the said guy...there was no invisible silent extra in the room..just me and him...and im sure he didnt mind if it was only about the sex...he wasnt looking for romance and neither was i...its all good ;) so please just let me enjoy the afterglow without guilt...ur kinda killing it for me :p x You're the only person who can decide if you should feel guilt and if you think spending your time playing mind games with your husband is going to make yourself feel better about yourself and your relationship, good for you.Personally I believe some things aren't worth throwing away your self respect and dignity. He never stole them from you.MrsSplicey
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RHP User
13 years ago
has anyone told u lately what an idiot u are?
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RHP User
13 years ago
i havent told anyone how to live their lives, merely indicated how we live ours... to me/us, cheating is the one thing neither of us can forgive. i get that someone might feel 'driven' to cheat..i really do, but i do honestly believe that its common decency that dictates to most of us, that its just not right to do so.... why else is there such a stigma attached to it? why else do so many single women choose to not play with married guys? why do couples clubs/sex venues not invite married /attached men or women? then theres this whole idea that if someone does you wrong.....its ok to do the same wrong...or worse....in retaliation? whats with that? the 'golden rule' says do unto others.....as you would have them do unto you'...it does not give a carte blanche go ahead to completely disregard core values and ethics, just so you can satify a need for revenge, or satiate a hunger, or even dole out retribution....it means that you continue to treat others, regardless of how they treat you, with dignity, respect and consideration...... then theres this guy...who falls into name calling each time his opinions on truth and marriage are challenged... Jensman, your values are clearly not mine, and that you choose to accept deception, and betrayal as the norms in your world, doesnt mean others do the same. some of us are here quite happily interacting with others, and are absolutely able to hang on to the decent, principled values that we have in our normal every day lives..... we dont see that being here...on an adult sex site......excuses us from the priciples we both hold dear and close...those of loyalty to our partners, respect of our relationship and honesty in all our dealings, not just with each other, but with those people we value and whose paths we cross.... i dont lie, not here, not at home, at work, to the ATO, or to anyone, i dont need to, as the truth wont make me less of a person, or indeed, less of a man..... Quoting 'jensman1903' The comments, that have offended you, come from a vindictive, small minded, damaged individual with a pathological need to tear down decent people to maintain his own pretense of moral superiority. I personally believe that he thoroughly deserved every thing that has happened to him and I find his very existence abhorrent while most people simply pity him but no one takes him seriously. The only person you need to justify your actions to is yourself and there was plenty of justification there. Still, to be on the safe side, ....GO OUT AND DO IT AGAIN.
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On_Safari
13 years ago
....giess that's my moral dilemma sorted! Lmao atleast I'm smiling again. 😃
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RHP User
13 years ago
You tell them beautiful
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RHP User
13 years ago
Well hi there jensman, No no one on here has scared me off, I take all good and bad opinions, maybe I need to clear up my situation that I'm in My husband is verbally abusive, I have left him once before and thought he might try to see the light Unfortunately, people don't change I know that now He knows we have problems in our relationship, have talked openly but isn't interested Hence why I'm cheating, yes it might sound selfish and disrespectful So eventually I will be getting a divorce it's just a matter of time
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RHP User
13 years ago
Lies posted on RHP forums by Mike - 1. I don't lie 2. When I lie I can't sleep (#2 proves #1 as a lie/ each one after that proves #2 as a lie as the bastard wouldn't have had any sleep at all for six months) 3. This was to be my last post on the subject (that is never going to happen) 4. You insult my wife 5. lol 6. I'm not angry 7. I don't read your posts 8. I'm not arrogant 9. not wrong...not ever 10. I don't call people names 11. (I don't dissect your posts) ...tho I could if I were bothered 12. It really makes me laugh 13. not shallow 14. so don't call me 'bigot' or 'zealot' or 'arrogant', as I'm none of these things ...but his favorite form of deciet is misdirection. He'll infer something then, when challenged on it, will claim, "that's not what I said". There is not a single thing he has accused me off that he's not guilty of himself and in some of the cases, only him and not me. He will sink to anything to pretend he is right, that is, anything but back it up with relevant examples.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have my secrets, Mike, and I've lied when I've had cause to but I'm still a far more honest man than you.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' Lies posted on RHP forums by Mike - 1. I don't lie.... well i dont bucko...i have no need for untruths....you should try honesty...its actually wonderfully liberating, lol 2. When I lie I can't sleep (#2 proves #1 as a lie/ each one after that proves #2 as a lie as the bastard wouldn't have had any sleep at all for six months)....... i worked this out a very long time ago....and i now sleep with an absolutely clear and clean conscience...we make a point of discussing our day, and anything thats bothering either of us, when we first go to bed, then spend 30 mins watching funnies on youtube on my tablet.... i dont now lose sleep to things left hidden and unsaid...something i did for many years, which pushed me into some very unhealthy sleeping habits......you do understand the concepts of learning and modifying behaviours? 3. This was to be my last post on the subject (that is never going to happen).......since when does 'changing ones mind' constitute a lie? oh my....you do well to see this as deception... 4. You insult my wife........ yea you do...as does nyone whoi calls any memeber of our family and name, or slurs or attempts to humilaite...you insult her over and over, by continuing this infatuation with all things 'mikandshel' and by stalking our every move on these forums 5. lol........which is what i do.... i laugh at many things, sometimes at the most inappropriate times...its who i am, i see the funny in everything...maybe its the irish in me, who knows? who really even cares?...then theres the times when i write 'lol'.......just to have something in the box.......i could write 'ffs' or 'blah blah blah'...it would mean the same.....nothing 6. I'm not angry...well no, i'm not.... if i were, i'd clam up and say nothing to anyone, which has always been the thing i do... i withdraw when i'm angry, and try to get my head around things before opening my mouth...... 7. I don't read your posts...well i dont...the first sentence or two is usually enough, i have so many things to read, and your words arent my preferred reading.... 8. I'm not arrogant........how does an opinion rate as a 'lie'...because its differnt to yours? that must be it...of course... i forgot, would you like me to genuflect when i read your name too 9. not wrong...not ever...well there was this time once..... nah joking... i did get the lotto numbers wrong tho...how did you fare? 10. I don't call people names.... thats your trick....do the terms 'pretentious simpleton' or 'pompous bigot' or even 'pencil necked wimp' or 'opinioonated wanker' ring a bell? they should...its what you call me and others..over and over... my 'sooky boys' and 'flowerpot' remarks kinda pale into insignificance dont they? 11. (I don't dissect your posts) ...tho I could if I were bothered.......most of the time i really cant be bothered....like i said, i dont read them, at least not in their entirety, and besides, i was probably picking belly button lint or trimming excess nose hairs at the time... 12. It really makes me laugh...and it does...hysterically... i find great amusement in how things have worked out for my ex...she got what she deserved...and what her mother, best friend and ex husband warned me of, back when she and i first hooked up...silly me, i shouldve listened... 13. not shallow..........how ever could you gauge this without ever having met me, or even us? how could you imagine such a thing? lol.... we dont have time to be shallow, not while dealing with the lives that we've been left with.....live that include things you couldnt even imagine...oh thats right...you base this on whats been written...do you think we might feel the same (and worse) about you? if you did, you'd be absolutely correct...and thats the truth 14. so don't call me 'bigot' or 'zealot' or 'arrogant', as I'm none of these things...again, your opinion of me will always differ to my own of myself...oh and my wifes opinon of me as well.... but i dont see how that constitutes a 'lie' please please explain how you end up with this? ...but his favorite form of deciet is misdirection. He'll infer something then, when challenged on it, will claim, "that's not what I said". There is not a single thing he has accused me off that he's not guilty of himself and in some of the cases, only him and not me. He will sink to anything to pretend he is right, that is, anything but back it up with relevant examples.isnt this a forum? a place to share opinions and ideas in a conversational tone? if it were a debating site then perhaps i'd feel obliged to cite examples, provide bibliographies, and even write footnotes.....but its not, so i'm in no way obligated to back up my 'opinions'...especially not if they are mine alone... if i were quoting someone else...then maybe...but i havent had to do 'homework' like this since i were a wee bairn...lol... you arent my schoolmaster, in fact you arent anything to me, so all you do is make me laugh...about something else..lol.
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RHP User
13 years ago
oh, and one I left out- 15. not passing judgement, just asking questions You are on record as having already passed judgement on anyone who has an affair. You've decided without hearing their side. You refuse to accept any answer to a question you don't want to hear. Your "questions" are merely harrassment. You are a liar, a hypercrite and a biggot. These aren't "opinion", they're conclusively proven facts.
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RHP User
13 years ago
That was another of your deciet by misdirection. You've been more than happy to insult my wife though. This again proves your hypocrisy. I never claimed not to label people so saying that your examples pale next to mine is irrelevant. A lie is a lie. When you said that you don't call people names you lied.
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RHP User
13 years ago
...shall we take it to the "So just what is "the truth"???" thread, where it belongs. We're way off topic here.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Omg you waste too much time being bitter ...what's with that. We don't care!!! About any of the above when we read forums, And I think I speak for a lot of people on here!!! Move on please !!! It is beginning to get a little tedious.. Leesa xxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
the lure of the carousel,makes ya dizzy,can't get off I suspect....what was the post about again
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RHP User
13 years ago
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On_Safari
13 years ago
Not knowing any of you well and being a completely unbiased 3rd party with absolutely no vested interest in the outcome whatsoooooever!!! Errr make love not war..... and to err is human, to forgive divine. Safari
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RHP User
13 years ago
Jensman, your obsession with what we/i say has gone way past what is appropriate.and every time you post another sarcastic, insulting comment, you demean yourself even further.... this is beyond ridiculous, so i'll ask you officially to once and for all stop harrassing me/us, and find someone else to bully and insult.... i have no desire to continue this with you, and have you insult/name call/villify me any further... and to be honest, this obsession you have with me/us is way out of line, and innappropriate in so many ways...it needs to stop, as its really never going to lead anywhere....but hey, if you cant help yourself, thats ok, i can keep this shit up forever and a day if i so choose..as i really do find it to be immensely amusing...lol...oh....yea...for the record, its not you who decides what insults my wife, thats something only she can decide...or not. so like i said...each time you name call me, or throw a slur my way, or make some deliberately incendiary comment to or about me/us, you insult her....directly or not doesnt matter...that you now know her thoughts on this opens the door to you amending and modifying your behaviour... up to you tho...... my grandkids are coming over....'flowerpot' and 'sooky boy'....not sure why, but every time i call them these pet names, they nearly wet themselves with delight...lol...they 'get' it at age 4 and 7, that the names are teasing and fun.....why cant you?
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RHP User
13 years ago
You keep compounding your lies by defending them with more lies but I'm happy to leave it. I've made my point, everyone lies, but can you leave it? After all, inspite of your claims that I started this dispute, which is another lie by the way, as long as you keep perpetuating it, you are no less guilty than I. Peachy, I'd love one of your hugs. How soon can you get to Buxton?
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RHP User
13 years ago
should just fuck and get it over with runs and ducks for cover, cracking up Is this the greatest love story ever told?
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RHP User
13 years ago
walk into a bar,this is the consequence.....apologies HT for stealing ya joke
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'tuscanred' should just fuck and get it over with runs and ducks for cover, cracking up Is this the greatest love story ever told? why run? why duck? you're not the only one laughing here..... i've been havn a giggle myself..lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'tuscanred' should just fuck and get it over with runs and ducks for cover, cracking up Is this the greatest love story ever told? why run? why duck? you're not the only one laughing here..... i've been havn a giggle myself..lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
same here... even after a few deeply engagin talks about opening up our relationship and perhaps try swinging she has decided not to get into it... while she understands my sex drive is diferent and basically so much higher than hers, she's been joking about me dying of horniness, having to spend a fortune on sex (haven't spent money yet lol), etc This has gone on for a few years - trying tp go into some sharing arrangement but then she decides it's "not for her"... so I have no other option than be "discreet" with a friend at times when I could find one - yes, there are women in the same situation, thanks for bringing it up and confessing to itJoe a.k.a thedoctor2640
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RHP User
13 years ago
I really can't figure it out myself if u r a married couple. I get confused more because I am from the states and relationships and the concepts of marriage are WAY different. You can just walk out here. In the states, that is called abandonment and means JAILTIME. You must be LEGALLY separated by a judge or notary for a period of time. If you get caught bumping pelvises with someone while separated, you can STILL get nailed for adultery and lose everything in divorce court. So this whole 'open marraige' thing really throws me off, among other things. I guess if it is consensual with the other partner it isn't cheating. If you FEEL like u r cheating, then you are. Let your conscience be your guide. I was married and cheating, felt like crap because of what I was doing. Not right to her, me, or the person I was doing it with. This can SCAR A PERSON for LIFE. I hated to do it because of being together for years I didn't want to hurt this person but couldn't deal with the guilt anymore, plus I 'fooled around and fell in love' which makes things worse. Now with all the blathering I have done, i hope it helps. I probably made it clear as mud.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' You keep compounding your lies by defending them with more lies but I'm happy to leave it. I've made my point, everyone lies, but can you leave it? After all, inspite of your claims that I started this dispute, which is another lie by the way, as long as you keep perpetuating it, you are no less guilty than I. You can't let it go. As usual, having the last word is the most important thing in your life so, once again, I will have to be the bigger man and let it go. I do hope you ladies appreciate this. I'm only doing it for you.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'jensman1903' You keep compounding your lies by defending them with more lies but I'm happy to leave it. I've made my point, everyone lies, but can you leave it? After all, inspite of your claims that I started this dispute, which is another lie by the way, as long as you keep perpetuating it, you are no less guilty than I. Peachy, I'd love one of your hugs. How soon can you get to Buxton? you have me feeling very .....awkward.... this attention you pay me, is obviously an obsession...could it be some latent homosexual tendency coming to the fore? or is there some other motive at play? does accusing me of uttering mistruths and being deceptive, fill some void ? does it give you some kind of peace....a justification for your own lack of veracity? dont paint me/us the same colours you paint yourself.... i'm nothing like you...something that i'm very pleased with indeed...as is my wife.... like i said...we dont lie/deceive/conceal anything at all from each other...in fact, a constant source of amusement is how neither of us is able to keep even the simplest of secrets..... so it might be an idea if you do yourself a favour, and leave this alone....as every time you attack me, you humiliate yourself just a little furher, and i'm growing weary of feeling sorry for you ... so run along, will you,and find someone else to harass and annoy.... i tire of your attacks and bullying....... This guy calls everyone else childish for disagreeing with him yet still feels justified to carry on in this ridiculous way. When are you going to grow up you judgemental wanker. And thats my last word. You can now carry on as much as you want you just keep making yourself look more and more silly.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Usually people have to pay to watch a cock fight.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Nicely said
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RHP User
13 years ago
If people from the states did not have affairs, how would they have shows like Jerry Springer?? Lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Brazilian_girl' has anyone told u lately what an idiot u are? Not anyone that mattersBut come on. I'm in idiot for what I posted?Personally I think you're quite rude and judgmentalMrsSplicey
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'tuscanred' Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'tuscanred' should just fuck and get it over with runs and ducks for cover, cracking up Is this the greatest love story ever told? why run? why duck? you're not the only one laughing here..... i've been havn a giggle myself..lolstill smiling....lol....is it looking better than 'twilight' yet? ...... i dont do 'sparkle' tho...ok?
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RHP User
13 years ago
at least my profile in here says im married..his says hes "in an open relationship"....open relationship my arse!!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' calling someone a 'judgemental wanker' in a post that criticises the same person for 'calling names', is a tad hypocritical isnt it?............or am i the only one who gets this? lol Did I call ANYONE a judgemental wanker? MrsSplicey
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' calling someone a 'judgemental wanker' in a post that criticises the same person for 'calling names', is a tad hypocritical isnt it?............or am i the only one who gets this? lolRead it again. I said nothing about name calling. My post was about your childish behaviour. Youre losing an arguement so you resort to cheap tricks from a sitcom. Youre a very stupid man.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Spliced, don't stress babe , they are not talking about you, mike and jensman have an on going battle with each other..lol Come on boys call it a truce before we all loose it with laughter. Leesa xx hugs
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hotpassionpie
13 years ago
If you cant be Honest and open with your partner...maybe you should be single, doesnt sound like a very good partnership to me but hey your life, your choices. With respect,trust and openness....Id take an open partnership over lies,disrespect and no trust ANY day........Hope one day you find someone you can be truly YOU with, All the best
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RHP User
13 years ago
i really enjoyed the way jensman1903 stuck it to mikeandshel he made a much more convincing argument while mikeandshel just rambled on some crap i guess that means theyll be taking a swipe at me now but i dont care i dont like the way he kept harping on at that brazilian girl
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'couplesint' Spliced, don't stress babe , they are not talking about you, mike and jensman have an on going battle with each other..lol Come on boys call it a truce before we all loose it with laughter. Leesa xx hugs Thanks :) I was a little lostps, nice to meet you tonight :)MrsSplicey
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RHP User
13 years ago
if youre unhappily married you can suffer in silence or you can leave or you can stay and have some fun on the side if your partner has an affair you still have choices you can leave or you can stay and try to figure out what went wrong
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'jennylee1903' Quoting 'mikeandshel' calling someone a 'judgemental wanker' in a post that criticises the same person for 'calling names', is a tad hypocritical isnt it?............or am i the only one who gets this? lolRead it again. I said nothing about name calling. My post was about your childish behaviour. Youre losing an arguement so you resort to cheap tricks from a sitcom. Youre a very stupid man. but isnt 'name calling'..... less than 'adult' behaviour in the first place? thats my point....its hypocritical. every adult does it i dont know many adults that would resort to that homosexual crack tho that was right out of big bang theory
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RHP User
13 years ago
We are in a very happy open relationship, and have been for well over 5 years. It works for us. At first there was a level of fear to hurt the other one by being honest. But It all became self evident, that the only way this could work would be by having the guts to be open and honest. It may not be for everyone, and we respect that, but for us, this has been a blessing.
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