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Married Woman having Affairs!

September 07 2011

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Well I have followed with interest the married men having affairs, and would suggest it is interesting that the presumption is its a Male only problem.I have had an ex wife that wen't down that path.Personally I believe talking may have solved the problem or led to a way of finding a solution.Do you believe its ok for a woman to seek sex outside the marriage to scratch that itch she may have? Perhaps its different because she is a female?

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  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Couples we meet that swing the subject of cheating just does not come up. Its a non event in the genuine couples swing community. And as far as religion ...... geezzzzzz just get off the cross, we need the wood. Stones for sale Stones for sale

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting D_G_T.... kindly stop kneeing us in the nuts in the process or put some bloody pants back on!!! Damn woman, if I knew you had nuts, I would never have sent you those passionate flirts and put you on my hot list. I thought you were a real woman, and that I could spit the pillow out and roll over. You nearly 'turned' me. Well, bottoms up again. Sigh....

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    I don't have sex in my marriage. As you mentioned we discussed it. I now have a lover who is divorced. The problem is other couples who play do not accept me on my own. They only want to play with couples. Then there is the broader society who has it's norms.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    You are living on another planet. Woman cheat!!!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    CM you funny bugger . Ahhh thanks for the friend request Hornycd I'm sure you and I would get along like a house on fire

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting '2pornstarsxxx' if either the girl or guy needs more sex, they should just have couples sex then it wouldnt be cheating cos they would be doing it together. no need to cheat we all have options If one of the couple wants more sex and the other doesnt...how can couples sex fix that? What if one of the couple thinks all things sexual are dirty, perverted and twisted and the other likes many different kinks? What if one of the couple can no longer have sex due to medical issues? How is couples sex gonna fix it? l l Be it man or woman who is doing the playing around BIG DEAL. They have thier reasons, no matter how trivial they may be, and I do not think it is up to anyone else to judge. Oh the hurt, the betrayal.......get over it folks.....it happens...often. and if the woman (or man ) was getting what she/he wanted at home...they would not be looking elsewhere. It may only be variety that they are looking for....just the same as all the couples on here who play whether together or apart. The only difference is that you both know about it. So what, sex out side of the marriage is still sex outside of the marriage whether your partner knows or not. You want to start heaving stones at people who cheat? People who live in glass houses and all that. Notice it is mainly the couples who want to heave the first stone....stop being so sanctimonious.....you have no right to judge. l In answer of the original question....a woman has the same rights as a man...or should. It is no more wrong of a man to be a cheating bastard than it is for a woman to be a cheating bitch....it is no more right either but that is up to each individual to decide.  umm... gee...could it be that its 'couples' who experience the cheating? first hand? i have a cheat in my history, who not only lost me as a result of her choice to stray, but her job, her family and any respect anyone had for her....she never got over it, but i certainly did....and my wife was betrayed by her ex, who destroyed everything they had built and shared, for the sake of scratching an itch.....in neither case was it about 'lack of sex' or 'lack of love' or 'companionship' ...it was about the other persons greed and lack of control, and the little regard they had for those who were supposed to be their partners...... so yea....its us who go through the emotion, who might have the experiences, and who might hold others who cheat and those who facilitate it, in the highest contempt..........theres no 'reason' to cheat...theres no 'excuse'........its a 'choice', a conscious decision to stray, and to deceive and betray everyone who ever loved or trusted them........we dont want people like this in our lives. not then, not now, not ever....... so 'bastard' and 'bitch' arent strong enough words.....

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'hornycd4TOP' For reasons expressed oin my previous post, I now prefer the company of men. This simple and obvious fact has clearly and not surprisingly eluded you, silly woman.   Expecting to have an intelligent conversation with you would be assusming that you do possess some intelligenc. Clearly this is in doubt, judging from your commenbts.   My attitude is towards women like you appear to be seeking and plungingi nto one relationship after another,and blaming the man when the inevitable happens, it fails,and the man is the arsehole.   Clearly I need to spell it out to you, and I am happy to do that. When you are fortunate enough to meet a good man, instead of committing to the man and the relationship, youcontinue on with your single lifestyle with your SUPPORT GROUP, most of whom are married\attached. Your attkititude is that:"This is how it is. Take it or leave it." The desperate ones stay. The others either move on orsome stray. I had 2 good relationships destroyed by the fucking SISTERHOOD\SUPPORT GROUP.   SO TO REPEAT, WHEN YOU FIND, OR IF YOU ARE WITH A GOOD MAN, FUCKING COMMIT TO HIM AND THE RELATIONSHIP, and stop whoring and slutting around like a single woman your fucking SUPPORT GROUP. Yes, this is the kind of women that I loathe. Focus on keeping your man happy rather than your fucking support group.   If you cannot do this, leave the men alone or admit that you are seeking a casual fuck because you lack the ability to commit. DROP THE FUCKING PRETENSE.      isnt pretending to be a woman.....the ultimate "pretense'?

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'she_devil69'Once again, the "Morals police" ram their opinion down our throats. Cheating, not ideal, someone always gets hurt or caught, or both. Some relationships have everything going for them apart from a good sexual relationship. I have friends who choose too play discreetly, because they do not wish to end an otherwise great relationship due to a lack of intimacy. Not everyones ideal, but what works for you, may not work for someone else. Dont judge until you have been in that position yourself, and you seriously have to make that choice. We have also noticed its allways the same ones moaning about others as well.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    ...when I was a kid then she would lock me in the boathouse for a few hours until I started acting normal again. Could be why I have this idle fascination with ropes and the knots that yachtsman use, huh? | Quoting 'D_G_T' CM you funny bugger... Hornycd I'm sure you and I would get along like a house on fire So after you put another notch in the gun belt (that is what you call the belt that holds that 12" tool of terror in place, right) be sure to check to make sure the knot are tight and tied properly before you throw a match on the kerosene that you used for lube that accidentally got spilled on the bed, floor, two flights of stairs and trailed out the door. I know you are messy and prone to spilling things...let alone capable of sending people to the Epworth. | It's good thing my mother took all the matches out of the boathouse. I could have ended up being a pyrotechnic nymphomaniac and I could have gotten seriously injured. Just a reminder, DGT...like my mother said be careful what you play with or they might get burned. | Bahaha-less you mother...I learned a few things in the boathouse.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    This advise is fine but not universally applicable. See... I have a hunch that some people don't actually go out looking to cheat with anyone..... for them it just kind of happens... you know.. you slip and you suddenly find that your cock is caught on someones mouth.. :p ... perhaps there's a bit of harmless flirting... you're pushed too far by the person pursuing you.... and that person is successfully hitting on all your buttons... and before you know it you're banging some bitch on a bonnet in the car park. On the way home you're left wondering how that happened. I'm sure some women are the same.. especially with a couple of drinks under their belt.. and a discrete opportunity. My thoughts are that the thoughtfulness and consideration.. the excuses ... all come later. None of this is always an indication of dis-satisfaction with a relationship, or lack of communication, I think. It's just as viable to assume that some people are hornbags and like to fuck... and a discrete opportunity lets it get the better of their own good judgment... hence the feeble excuses that attempt to justify these actions, foisting the blame on some failing of the innocent partner.HugsStalky Quoting 'Fantacy_222' Cheating is a result of no communication.. If you find yourself looking to cheat on a partner, you need to find a solution to the problem that is confronting you both... To seek another person to enhance or fullfill a desire, it should be done with the full knowledge of your partner.. otherwise there will be some problems and you both will be hurt.. We suggest that having some fun on the side be done only with the full knowledge of the better half.. For us.. being with other like minded people has enhansed our relationship and allowed us to expand our relationship together.. For us,, we are a much more solid, confident couple.. Do not cheat,, it will only lead to a very down side...   jan / Grant

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Plain to see from your profile pic, its not the subject that comes up

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' So after you put another notch in the gun belt (that is what you call the belt that holds that 12" tool of terror in place, right) That would be a sporan in my books.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    ...would know know what T_G_T has hidden under that sporran, Fiona. | Quoting 'fionabee'That would be a sporan in my books. | I deliberately transposed her name once to G_D_T ...you know, God Damn Tight, but that was just sorta kinda a joke. Rumour has it and all...and hell, the way she carries on about the damn thing half of the southern hemisphere would know that by now. | Count on it...I am gonna run with the T_G_T thing.   Quoting 'hornycd4TOP'T_G_T YOU MEANIE BOO HOO | You have noooooo idea. Seriously, you don't.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'hornycd4TOP' Ah, you hurted my feelings, you big meanie.   Never mind. I forgive you. I sent you 3 flirts. I added you to my hot list. I want to be your friend. We should get together some time.   Form our own sisterhood and support group.   Now I'm going away. This is becoming boring, but you have a nice time spreading those legs around now hear, you sweet thaing .   Yeah cool, I'll bring a friend...... Horny....meet ass blaster 2011 ...ass blaster...Horny Now that the introductions are over....bwwahhhaaaa I promise, this won't hurt me one bit !!!!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Hand out for that cool drink now, thanks Mr_B

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'D_G_T' Hand out for that cool drink now, thanks Mr_B Gee, cool drinks and is the going to be interesting?In the Blue corner we have AssBlaster2011 and in the Red corner we have HornyCD4top!Tickets for sale! Will accept all rocks!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    We kissed and made up. I forgave the sister.   I did try to follow her advice and pull on some pants. I've been crossdressing for so long I dont have any.   Perhaps I could get into D-G-T's pants? hmmmmmm

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'hornycd4TOP' We kissed and made up. I forgave the sister.   I did try to follow her advice and pull on some pants. I've been crossdressing for so long I dont have any.   Perhaps I could get into D-G-T's pants? hmmmmmm   You're brave ...talk to Mr Midnight about he ended up in A& E ....something about objects stuck in is arse and frozen banans...........Be Carefull

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Let's not talk about that...T_G_T would probably prefer to have him end up with his end up and offer up a few surprises of her own. | Quoting 'justenough' ...talk to Mr Midnight about he ended up in A& E .... I still want to know where in the hell she found those 50 grit sandpaper condoms for that that goddam thing...and that laugh, I still wake up at night in a cold sweat. Worst of all, it was nearly 4 weeks before I could break wind and hear anything but a whooshing noise. Silent but deadly...there's an understatement and since this thread has morphed to a religious discussion just remember these prophetic words she will utter... | "Vengance is mine." | May she have mercy on his hole. | | I'll get back to you on this T_G_T thing...baaaah-less me for my sins, just don't touch my ass.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    I know CM, the screams still haunt me too, though other end of the scale completely of course. . Hornycd and I did sort of come to some agreement, seeing that we're both not married , nor having an affair. After some discussion about pants and how to wear them after all these years of fishnets and skirts, turns out Horny isn't such a woman hater afterall, I mean he sure seems keen on the fiesty ones (pffft dunno what that has to do with me though ) So ...after explaining the immense benefits to all who had to witness our little scrag fight, Horny has agreed to have a Pedgehog as penance (only fair) and I have agreed to not laugh like a maniacal witch whilst applying them (yeah as if I would ) I'm not a professional ass buster by any stretch but sadly for one, I do however have some unforeseen experience with anal tearing (farrrkk thats a terrible sound) .

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'fionabee' umm... gee...could it be that its 'couples' who experience the cheating? first hand? its us who go through the emotion, who might have the experiences, and who might hold others who cheat and those who facilitate it, in the highest contempt......... So I hope you are not trying to insinuate that because I am single ....at the moment....I have never been a part of a couple nor have I ever been cheated on and therefore would not know what the hell it is to feel that sense of betrayal....because you would be wrong!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Obviously some ppl know it first hand... In mycase I think merrywife nailed it on the head - maybe I should make a trip to Canberra to share some adventures :-) Anyway, it is the minority of those who do not conform to the societal norm - and suffer the consequences if it comes out in the open. We are meant to be monogamous in a sense of building a family and forge our emotional ties, but not always compatible sexually with the life partner, in which case after all else fails a friend with benefits on the side is better - and in my case my wife does not want to know, does not want to talk about it, and prefers to keep it under the carpet, and in return she knows i have no emotional involvement with anyone else...

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Been married twice, been cheated on, but never ever cheated. Just old fashioned I guess, and i certainly would not put any other woman through the pain cheating causes.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'D_G_T' I know CM, the screams still haunt me too, though other end of the scale completely of course. . Hornycd and I did sort of come to some agreement, seeing that we're both not married , nor having an affair. After some discussion about pants and how to wear them after all these years of fishnets and skirts, turns out Horny isn't such a woman hater afterall, I mean he sure seems keen on the fiesty ones (pffft dunno what that has to do with me though ) So ...after explaining the immense benefits to all who had to witness our little scrag fight, Horny has agreed to have a Pedgehog as penance (only fair) and I have agreed to not laugh like a maniacal witch whilst applying them (yeah as if I would ) I'm not a professional ass buster by any stretch but sadly for one, I do however have some unforeseen experience with anal tearing (farrrkk thats a terrible sound) . I for one am putting hands up to watch this gem!Now where did I put those ear muffs?

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    People mess around and still stay in their relationship for different reasons. We shouldn't judge anyone for it especially when we don't know the facts.Shit happens and sometimes if it doesn't happen, shit will happen. As for a married women... what is this the 60's all of a sudden? I've been with a few and found the experience a huge turn on!It may not be right, because society says so, but if it makes you happy I say do it. Life's short so take it by the balls and go for it.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee' Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'fionabee' umm... gee...could it be that its 'couples' who experience the cheating? first hand? its us who go through the emotion, who might have the experiences, and who might hold others who cheat and those who facilitate it, in the highest contempt......... So I hope you are not trying to insinuate that because I am single ....at the moment....I have never been a part of a couple nor have I ever been cheated on and therefore would not know what the hell it is to feel that sense of betrayal....because you would be wrong!i dont insinuate anything, merely posing a question and making a statement of fact........its you who seems to be of the mind that couples have no place in making statements or sharing opinions about others. you paint us as cheaters and deceivers, when its us, as couples who play together, who operate in an honest and open way........theres no cheating if theres no deception. its no more important to either of us, as play is play, whether it be in the bedroom, with a deck of cards, or chasing a ball in the yard with children. its a game we play as adults, but which we play together, hidden from nobody. and yes, we hold those who cheat and the people who they cheat with, in the utmost of contempt. that will never change. you seem to take great pride in twisting the words of others into something other than what was said.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Mr Midnight said: Worst of all, it was nearly 4 weeks before I could break wind and hear anything but a whooshing noise. Silent but deadly... Then DGT Said: I'm not a professional ass buster by any stretch but sadly for one, I do however have some unforeseen experience with anal tearing (farrrkk thats a terrible sound)     And now look whats happened hornycd4TOP has vanished, You two scared the hell out of him. Was not it decided everyone was to be nice to newbies and welcome them? Off to MissT dungeon now ....both of you.... geezzzzzzzz

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'stalky'This advise is fine but not universally applicable. See... I have a hunch that some people don't actually go out looking to cheat with anyone..... for them it just kind of happens... you know.. you slip and you suddenly find that your cock is caught on someones mouth.. :p ... perhaps there's a bit of harmless flirting... you're pushed too far by the person pursuing you.... and that person is successfully hitting on all your buttons... and before you know it you're banging some bitch on a bonnet in the car park. On the way home you're left wondering how that happened. I'm sure some women are the same.. especially with a couple of drinks under their belt.. and a discrete opportunity. My thoughts are that the thoughtfulness and consideration.. the excuses ... all come later. None of this is always an indication of dis-satisfaction with a relationship, or lack of communication, I think. It's just as viable to assume that some people are hornbags and like to fuck... and a discrete opportunity lets it get the better of their own good judgment... hence the feeble excuses that attempt to justify these actions, foisting the blame on some failing of the innocent partner.HugsStalky Quoting 'Fantacy_222' Cheating is a result of no communication.. If you find yourself looking to cheat on a partner, you need to find a solution to the problem that is confronting you both... To seek another person to enhance or fullfill a desire, it should be done with the full knowledge of your partner.. otherwise there will be some problems and you both will be hurt.. We suggest that having some fun on the side be done only with the full knowledge of the better half.. For us.. being with other like minded people has enhansed our relationship and allowed us to expand our relationship together.. For us,, we are a much more solid, confident couple.. Do not cheat,, it will only lead to a very down side...   jan / Grant so deception and cheating just happens 'spontaneously'? at every point we have choices. its black and white at all times, and to claim otherwise is ridiculous. you cheat because you choose to. whether it be 30 seconds after meeting someone, or as a result of being 'worn down' by someone who has actively pursued you. its doesnt matter, as the choice to say 'no' has been there since time began. no-one 'forces' another to stray, regardless of what might be happening at home. are we adults? absolutely. are we able to make choices? absolutely. do we understand right from wrong? abso-fucking-lutely. there are no valid 'reasons' to cheat.............and 'excuses' just dont cut it.......as adults we are either 'responsible' or 'irresponsible' and as adults in 'relationships' we should all be acutely conscious of how our actions, or lack of, might impact our lives and happiness and those of our partner as well. selfish people stray, selfish people justify straying.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    ...she's a master at prestidigitation too. | Where did you hid the body this time T_G_T | | On topic...that's cheating. I wanted to hear the screams too when he found out.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'woodsmoke7' I read the exchanges between these two, and have to score all rounds to horny. He\she displayed a far keener wit and superior intellect, submitting points with pashion but clearly and concisely, remaining focused on the issues.   D_G_T on the other seemed venemous and hysterical in comparisonl, focusing on and launching a personal attack rather than addressing the issues raised.   Towards the latter stages, clearly horny sparred with her with almost contemptuous condescention, displaying a confident humour.   No wonder D_G_T needed that drink.   I suppose I now await a hysterical onslaught. Yaaaawn. I do like fishing, but you are offering the wrong bait . Might you all like to know, that what seems to have happened is far more interesting than what actually occured. Hornycd did however send me half a dozen flirts and a friend request, but I had to decline as he admitted to me that his postings were all a rile up, he was not a cross dresser at all and very much into women, after the initial outburst of spittle and hate even showed a witty and intelligent brain.....go figure. But when all is said and done, I don't like people who come on the forums just to get people to bite with nothing but villainy in mind, it actually gives me the shits. It was also done at the expense of many married men who had contacted him for a good time.......which he was having, but not WITH them . Woodsmoke, you actually sound a lot like Horny (you haven't changed id's have you?) It might please you to know that just because I 'love' using the word FUCK (it's a great word and has the effect no other can replicate) that it does not mean that I am hysterical, in fact 90% of my posting is done very calmly, I just tend to call a spade a spade, and obviously on this thread, a spade in hearts clothing . Perhaps some of the men who were being lied to by Horny reported him to RHP and his demise is a result of his own actions? stranger things have happened. But yeah you're right, much more fun to blame someone like myself or CM

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    That was better than the US Open and from where I sit.....you took out Serena even though she wasn't playing on the right side of the net T_G_T. | What in the farnken hell is it with what looks like a plot to make men look more pathetic than some already do? Now I know why you started that thread about "Where are all the real men". | Oh and please don't wake me up T_G_T to attack me with your scathing wit. I went under once I don't need it twice although.... | ...some men do. | | I will never say a word about why I call you Sleeping Beauty....*yawn*

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    So here ends todays lesson!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    ...or just mount her and go for a ride.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    I dont coondone cheating but i dont judge others ........................... to many on this site do. For many swinging is cheating so do we all now feel guilty for swingng     So who's read Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion..............................it cast doubt on any group ever being able to legimately hold the moral ground on anything.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Cheating is cheating, whoever does it.But what I find interesting is when someone in a marriage complains about a lack of sex, it's more often than not the woman. I've also known more women who cheat than men, but that's not exactly a statistically viable sample.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    In-sir-mount-able fun

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    or ...Is-it-in-SirMountable ?

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    What I am saying is that I doubt people plan to cheat.. they just take advantage of an opportunity and think up the self serving justifications later to make themselves feel better about it.HUgsStalky Quoting 'mikeandshel'so deception and cheating just happens 'spontaneously'? at every point we have choices. its black and white at all times, and to claim otherwise is ridiculous. you cheat because you choose to. whether it be 30 seconds after meeting someone, or as a result of being 'worn down' by someone who has actively pursued you. its doesnt matter, as the choice to say 'no' has been there since time began. no-one 'forces' another to stray, regardless of what might be happening at home. are we adults? absolutely. are we able to make choices? absolutely. do we understand right from wrong? abso-fucking-lutely. there are no valid 'reasons' to cheat.............and 'excuses' just dont cut it.......as adults we are either 'responsible' or 'irresponsible' and as adults in 'relationships' we should all be acutely conscious of how our actions, or lack of, might impact our lives and happiness and those of our partner as well. selfish people stray, selfish people justify straying.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'stalky'What I am saying is that I doubt people plan to cheat.. they just take advantage of an opportunity and think up the self serving justifications later to make themselves feel better about it.HUgsStalky I agree

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    ...I have never ever been asked that? | Quoting 'D_G_T' or ...Is-it-in-SirMountable ?   | I left a note at the desk at the Epworth ER trauma team. You'll actually be air evacuated there...just mumble out my name even incoherently and they will fix you up. You know...in the end, you are going to get paid back. | That...is really cheating. You get a really cool ride in an air ambulance...and I had to drive myself in? | It hurts more when a woman cheats. Amen.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel so deception and cheating just happens 'spontaneously'? at every point we have choices. its black and white at all times, and to claim otherwise is ridiculous. you cheat because you choose to. whether it be 30 seconds after meeting someone, or as a result of being 'worn down' by someone who has actively pursued you. its doesnt matter, as the choice to say 'no' has been there since time began. no-one 'forces' another to stray, regardless of what might be happening at home. are we adults? absolutely. are we able to make choices? absolutely. do we understand right from wrong? abso-fucking-lutely. there are no valid 'reasons' to cheat.............and 'excuses' just dont cut it.......as adults we are either 'responsible' or 'irresponsible' and as adults in 'relationships' we should all be acutely conscious of how our actions, or lack of, might impact our lives and happiness and those of our partner as well. selfish people stray, selfish people justify straying. There are no valid reasons to cheat, there are however valid reasons for monogamy to fail, and for 'no' to become a word the brain drops from the vocabulary. People cheat when monogamy's failings become apparent but they cannot discuss it with their partner.

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    14 years ago

    Reading the comments, it does come down to personal choice, and what type of relationship you have. there are some who have Open relationships, they are honest about sleeping with other's, BUT at the end of the day, their loyalty or love stays with their actual partner, NOT the fun buddy. There is NOT always a reason to cheat, for some its a mere justification of their own wrongdoing. I have seen the comments about people who cheat, its because they are not getting what they want at home, that might be true in some cases, but not all.I had a VERY active sex life with my husband, we were very compatable, I was not afraid to try new things, he had NO reason to go looking. His was done behind my back, until I walked in on him and one of his many(I found out later she was NOT the first and not the last)lady friends. I forgave him, tried to trust him, and then found out after all the promises etc, he had continued to cheat. What did hurt the most, was the amount of people who were so called friends covering his ass, it made matters a lot worse, that really reeked.The women he cheated on me with, I have spoken to a couple, and one was upset and had the guts to appologise to me, she was in tears, oddly enough I comforted her, she also did NOT know he was married, even his best mate told her he was single!! In those cases, the woman was lied to as well, thats horrible, you have this man in your life, you are happy etc, then HELLO, you meet the wife who supposedly did not exist, as well as find out he has children as well!The last one, she knew full well he was married, her attitude was, his being married, and having children did not matter, as long as she got what she wanted. After realising tho, the gravy train had a handbrake, she soon jumped ship. In the meantime, it ended my marriage, my husband has never met his youngest child who is now 5 months old. Women are just as good as men at cheating, it's not exclusive to just one gender. be honest, we have ALL heard the lines, my wife/husband does not understand me, we have not slept together in ages, we are just staying together for the children, and so on. They are NOT always true, and i wonder how many would actually check to see they are not taken in by those well used lines before getting involved.YES ok, to be fair, when children start coming along, it puts pressure on, if one partner is working all the time, there is that loneliness etc. One partner might lose some of their sex drive, things might get dull in the bedroom, it happens! BUT thats when you communicate, rather than do the dirty. The cost of cheating, and by that, I mean when it is behind the other person's back, is HIGH. Trust is gone, you no longer respect your partner, you feel worthless, ugly, you lose confidence, self esteem, it makes you doubt who you are. The funnier side i guess to mine, is when I did end things with my husband, because he was nothing more than a cheater, he had no respect for me, and really, to tell me he loved me then go with other woman, that was just a lie as far as i was concerned, if he did love me as he said, then WHY did he hurt me and humiliate me. I found someone else, I was NOT looking, I gave it a go, BUT had the guts to tell my husband I was going to go out with this new man, well my husband HIT the roof, he was ringing, crying etc, he just would NOT leave me alone. Oh boy, he did NOT like it that I was moving on. It was a bit ironic really.But really, its up to people's conscience, and themselves. IF someone chooses to cheat, they need to keep in mind, what they will lose or stand to lose if they get caught. I can say, this is one woman who does NOT cheat, never have, never will. However, I would not judge those who do, it's their choice as an adult, but i spare a thought to the one they are hurting, cos in the end, it really isn;t worth it a lot of the time.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'stalky' What I am saying is that I doubt people plan to cheat.. they just take advantage of an opportunity and think up the self serving justifications later to make themselves feel better about it.HUgsStalkyHear Hear StalkySo trueI don't want my wife to cheatSo I encourage her to fuck whoever she likes(She just has to tell me when she's coming home)Cheers Mr. SR>

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    14 years ago

    some people plan to stay faithful. and manage to do so, decades into their relationships. and others manage to stay true to the promise (even the unspoken ones) they make their partners,and dont stray, in spite of having it served up on a plate, and ripe for the taking. to take 'advantage of the opportunity' is a crock..its only ever an 'opportunity' if you were actively seeking it.....you should say 'make a poor choice'......as its still a choice.....to stray or not. to cheat or not. to be a liar or not. to be weak or not....... nobody holds a gun to another persons head and says 'cheat'........we make the choice. we make the decision. and then later, because we feel guilty...the lies and excuses come. or when we are finally caught out.....the blame and accusations begin....its never the fault of the person who cheats. apparrently. its never his or her responsibility. apparrently. its always the fault of the person left at home, ignorantly thinking its all ok, and that they can trust their partner implicitly......and telling themselves that he/she loves them soooo much and that no, they would never dream of doing the wrong thing....hes/shes just out with workmates, at the footy or working late, again.....

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    14 years ago

    Give me a nice married women that just wants a bit on the side any time. At least they don't typicaly end up stalking me, wanting to spend 24/7 with me after one date, my bank account, phoneing me every thirty seconds and leaving 380 voice messages on my voice mail, txting till my inbox is full. I do work and I can't just drop my work to answer the phone straight away! And they don't start talking about getting pregnat and having children obsessivly fast, Yes I've met too many single women that start talking about moving in and getting pregnant before the 3rd date.

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    14 years ago

    I'm amazed at how righteous those in "open" relationships get. People I know in "monogamous"relationships are much more relaxed about it. Shit in South America and Southern Europe, it's practically compulsory!Can't understand why it's such an issue. Monogamy is a church imposed constraint. Science has shown us that God is a myth. Why haven't we broken free from the Church yet.Cat meet Pigeons :)

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    14 years ago

    Well said Jean!

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Jean_Girard' Quoting 'mikeandshel so deception and cheating just happens 'spontaneously'? at every point we have choices. its black and white at all times, and to claim otherwise is ridiculous. you cheat because you choose to. whether it be 30 seconds after meeting someone, or as a result of being 'worn down' by someone who has actively pursued you. its doesnt matter, as the choice to say 'no' has been there since time began. no-one 'forces' another to stray, regardless of what might be happening at home. are we adults? absolutely. are we able to make choices? absolutely. do we understand right from wrong? abso-fucking-lutely. there are no valid 'reasons' to cheat.............and 'excuses' just dont cut it.......as adults we are either 'responsible' or 'irresponsible' and as adults in 'relationships' we should all be acutely conscious of how our actions, or lack of, might impact our lives and happiness and those of our partner as well. selfish people stray, selfish people justify straying. There are no valid reasons to cheat, there are however valid reasons for monogamy to fail, and for 'no' to become a word the brain drops from the vocabulary. People cheat when monogamy's failings become apparent but they cannot discuss it with their partner. while there may be valid reasons for a relationship to fail, they dont apply to monogamy............ monogamy fails as a result of a poor choice thats been made....by one or both partners...... how does the word 'no' drop from a vocabulary?...babies understand the word at around 4 months of age.... does this mean those who cheat revert to infant behaviour?....people cheat because they dont have the strength of character to do the right thing....people cheat because they put their needs first....people cheat because its easier to look elsewhere for 'sex' than it is to fix a problem that might exist at home......people cheat because it requires less thought and caring than making a decison to leave would..........people cheat out of selfish 'want' for something they shouldnt have.....people dont cheat for noble, healthy, caring, understanding, reasonable, honest, loving or even responsible reasons, do they?.... no....they dont...

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    14 years ago

    Better to try and fail than never to try at all?There aren't excuses only reasons. I just don't get the moral outrage of the swingers.Is strength of character a characteristic of the polygamous?

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'julio'Better to try and fail than never to try at all?There aren't excuses only reasons. I just don't get the moral outrage of the swingers.Is strength of character a characteristic of the polygamous?what 'moral outrage' would that be? is this not an 'adult' conversation, on an 'adult' site..........can we not share an opinion? what we do doesnt include deception, dishonesty, betrayal or untruth.......we are as open with each other as any person could ever hope their partner could be.............if anything, we go out of our way to tell the other what we are thinking, feeling or desirous of......to each other we are open books.... could you say the same about you and your wife, if you strayed, but she was unaware? we are the way we are towards each other, because we've both been through the pain, heartache and humiliation of discovering that our partners cheated, and betrayed not only their promises to us, but to our children, families, friends and workmates. if theres 'outrage' its at the hurt inflicted by the selfish and uncaring partners of our previous lives........

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    14 years ago

    Good point, well said and taken.We have both had affairs but not discussed them.We have discussed affairs (theoretically) many years ago and agreed that it wouldn't be the end of the world if it was only an affair and that our relationship is stronger than that and is built on more than sex. That's just as well, cos it's pretty rare, but always good when it does happen. I would like us to be an "open book" but can't get there, despite having seen a sex therapist. Which was fun for a while. What do you do? Beating off only goes so far, sometimes you need intimacy.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'julio'Good point, well said and taken.We have both had affairs but not discussed them.We have discussed affairs (theoretically) many years ago and agreed that it wouldn't be the end of the world if it was only an affair and that our relationship is stronger than that and is built on more than sex. That's just as well, cos it's pretty rare, but always good when it does happen. I would like us to be an "open book" but can't get there, despite having seen a sex therapist. Which was fun for a while. What do you do? Beating off only goes so far, sometimes you need intimacy.   yea i get what you are saying, and agree 100% .......'beating off' does only go so far....i'm not sure we'd be the ones to advise you there...communication is the single most important tool we have...and it serves us well....for you??. continued counselling? intervention?ultimatum? seperation? all i know is that at some stage honesty has to become part of the equation, and to me, thats better off being sooner rather than later....if its not working and is dying a long slow death, would it be better to end the relationship before its too late, and salvage some dignity? i have done this myself, and walked away rather than endure heartache and a tortured relationship...........

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'lovethehoneypot' Give me a nice married women that just wants a bit on the side any time. At least they don't typicaly end up stalking me, wanting to spend 24/7 with me after one date, my bank account, phoneing me every thirty seconds and leaving 380 voice messages on my voice mail, txting till my inbox is full. I do work and I can't just drop my work to answer the phone straight away! And they don't start talking about getting pregnat and having children obsessivly fast, Yes I've met too many single women that start talking about moving in and getting pregnant before the 3rd date.    But you must be gooooooood!

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    14 years ago

    I met a married woman that gave me a Mars bar after I fucked her. She said shhh....my husband doesn't know. | I met a married woman whose husband licked my cock after I fucked her then gave me a Mars bar after I fucked her. She said shhh....my husband knows and watched and licked your cock. | Big deal.

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    14 years ago

    Love it.You should be in film!Or at least writing.

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    14 years ago

    We get on like a house on fire (whatever that means).Love each other dearly.Accept our transgressions and the fact that we are not perfect.It is working, it's not dying a slow death.Our greatest problem is that we are like flatmates rather than lovers.I can understand how your relationship works for you.It may be possible that our relationship - as flawed as you see it, works as well.This has been a fun and enlightening forum.Thanks for being open to alternate viewsJules

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    14 years ago

    Women have needs as well as men....if its ok for the man to stray...then why not the woman?   I am married and play......and are having a ball.   No shortage of takers here...

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    14 years ago

    I'm Gooooood at picking the crazy single ones :-) / They just seem so fun at first! /

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    14 years ago

    I have been married for 17 yrs and have never thought of having an affair till about two and a half yrs ago, when i felt that i was not being satisfied by my hubby, he was always busy with his law firm, (which he is a partner in) I am sure that he would have screwed some of his wealthy clients, i have flirted with the idea for a long time, and then joined Rhp, when i met a real gentleman, He was a very experianced lover, he pushed my bounderies and took me higher than i have ever been, he made me squirt and gush, which i have never done before, I loved my situation at home and never wanted to change that, but also wanted the pleasure that he was providing on the side, until one day we almost got caught in the act in my bed when my hubby arrived home unexpectedly, threatened him on the ph and deleted all my numbers, so i have lost contact with him, he is no longer on RHP, but i am here, have met and been with a few guys on here, having fun as much as i can, but hopefully will meet up with the first one again. So i say ladies go and have fun enjoy every day, you may find someone that will take your breath away as you fly up above cloud 9. enjoy the adventure   Deliteme2

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    14 years ago

    From all the people who I know that play up on their partner there are a lot more women than men, most say it it because he is either usless in bed and does not fullfil her desires or they have a stale relationship. Generally guys seem to be too lazy to go out and have a real affair, ok some do, but not as many as the girls. Married women are the best to play with as they give out so much more and make great lovers and you can send them home when you both finish without any hang ups or strings, I like they way they say thanks too when you make them cum a few times.

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    14 years ago

    I would love to know my wife was having an affair mmmmmm i would love to watch lol . but i guess she is open enough to tell me .. BUT if she didnt share this with me and i was betrayed well i guess it would be another story hard to say . .. It sort of turns me on to think she was with some one else lol

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    14 years ago

    I have read this thread with interest. I have read some of the comments (WIFE2BSHARED & others) and it seems that while some women might choose to believe that women never cheat, many can recognize that women can and do have the capacity to be intimate with many men. I have wondered at polyandry, particularity where it exists without a cultural or financial reason.There can be good financial reason for polyandry which can lead to a cultural norm. In Tibet, where farmland is limited, the farm is jointly owned by all male decedents, usually brothers receiving the farm from their mother. If each brother takes a wife, then it becomes impossible for all members to feed themselves and the the farm gets impossibly small, because inheritance breaks the farm into progressively smaller tracts. Their solution is that all the brothers have one wife. Her sons then inherit the whole shebang .

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    14 years ago

    As some pointed out in the debate it is not a gender issue - males or females do seek sexual gratification outside the monogamous relationship as the monogamy is an imposed condition by the society - for mostly religious/economic reasons. Historically it has worked well, but in terms of emotional happiness it has worked better for females who are more inclined to be settled into a slower or less demanding sex life - unlike men who are the opposite yet need to adhere to the society's norm. A married woman who develops a high sex drive (either straight or bi-) and speaks to her husband openly (if he is reasonable and open minded) is usually the one who makes it possible for a couple to become swingers. A married woman would be the ideal friend with benefits as some others said, I have not met one yet but I'm sure they're out there :-)

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    14 years ago

    no when the bond of trust has been broken its very hard to get back and sometimes ni impossible

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