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Lying husbands?

March 07 2012

Why do so many men put on here single and there lying ? Why not just put un satisfied with wife or girlfriend or not getting enough I hate liers and bullshit ? U will get caught out ?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I would rather they be honest and say I'm married instead of all of this bullshit or even when they are on here as a couple but the wife is always busy. he comes up with excuses like I'll meet you firstand of course play, I know what she likes and then we'll all get together. When you ask to speak to her you get more crap about her being busy. My god I'm attached and my partner doesn't know I play thats why you state discretion is required BE HONEST !!!!!!!!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    One thing ive not seen in this forum is anyone saying anything about lying cheating women?? There is just as many lying cheating women out there as men...if not more cos its often a lot easier for an attractive woman to cheat than it is for a man. I recently caught my now ex financee (that i met on RHP actually), cheating on me red handed ...fair enough we had separated when i caught her, but we were trying to reconcile at the time and id even walked away from swinging entirely in the hope of proving to her that i was committed to the relationship. She preached so much to me about trust, even the day before i caught her out cheating she said to me that she wasnt seeing or sleeping with anyone but me, and she was giving me a mouthfull about trust and loyalty. God damn hypocrite. She knew my beliefs when she met me and i was blatantly honest about it...I think emotional monogamy is normal, but physical monogamy is not...it goes against all our animal instincts, so no wonder both sexes often cheat in monogamous relationships. If its not one its the other. Sad thing is despite all her accusations throughout our relationship the only women i touched other than her, was right in front of her and with her blessing...just a shame she wasnt quite so honest. I even found out that the guy i caught her with, shes been seeing since well before we separated, so draw your own conclusions on that one. Halfway through our relationship she had started trying to change me (should have known then it wouldnt work) and get me to walk away from swinging. So eventually i did to please her and it made no difference. What sucks is just over 12mths ago my father died from cancer, it hit me hard and id only recently moved to a new state with the mrs and as a result of the depression my dads death put me in..i found it hard getting back to work. I pretty much had a nervous breakdown, and all she would say to me was "just get over it" . This was a big factor in our split and whats more messed up, the random loser she cheated on me with, now lives with her..and he also lost his dad last year. She told me when i caught her that he was "just a friend" my ass, and was "sleeping on her couch"...bullshit !!! She ditched me for having issues with my dads death, but she goes and takes in a total stranger pretty much with similar problems and shows him more compassion than she did to me, her supposed fiancee? Theres something very fucked up about that. In fact she is still on this site with a single female profile (despite her telling me many times she didnt like swinging and wasnt bisexual...yeah right, thats not what it says on her profile now), and shes probably cheating on the new fella as well. Personally i think shes told so many lies she doesnt know what the truth is anymore even when she hears it from someone else. So dont be too quick to rip into men for being alledged "lying cheats"...a lot of you women are just as bad, look at the number of married women on here who openly state on their profile that they are married and looking to cheat "with discretion" theres 1000s of them. Ill say this, i may be a horny bastard with a high sex drive and an open mind...but im no lying cheat ( unlike my lying slut ex)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I'm attached and have numerous fun times on RHP but never, and I do mean never, have I lied about my marital status.One thing I learnt along time ago is that if you lie, you will get caught out. It just isn't worth it.As for me lying to my partner, it's not a case of lying but more of a case of not telling her whats going on.This may sound strange but if she ever had reason to ask me if I was cheating, I would tell her.To date she hasn't had a reason to ask. I do not let my side activities interfere with my family life.All in all we are both happy and plan on keeping it that way.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Readysetgo: By not telling your partner you are deceiving her and that is as bad as liying, its just sugar coating the truth... FrustratedPlus when we meet couples or sinle females my wife and I always meet as a couple but my wife does perfer when we meet single bi-guys is for me to meet them first coss if I dont like then they dont get in the door........ But thats us....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    As for me lying to my partner, it's not a case of lying but more of a case of not telling her whats going on.   Interesting comment....and very convenient...guess its rite up there with being "just a little bit pregnant"!!!     Quote: All in all we are both happy and plan on keeping it that way unquote     Really, your both happy ???..your screwing around and she doesnt know..and this fact is what you base your opinion of "happiness" on ?   Mmm good luck with that sentiment...I could be wrong and I hope I am...but Im pretty sure if she, your partner, n't knew..if you were man enough to tell her that is, she may feel a whole heap different ( I could be wrong but I think not..after all you have grown any balls and told her the truth now have you ?) ...I wonder how you would feel if she was cheating on you ?   Still its to your credit that at least you are honest with the people you play with...or are you.?..just not real honest with yourself...   I love the naivety of your post.....and the delusion that in time she wont find out...   If you idea of happiness is cheating and lying to the person you most love in the world.(one assumes) .then Im glad you dont hate her, imagine how you would treat her then ????

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Yes, but I'm married, my wife rarely sleeps with me, and only when I do all the work, we have sex. if I dont start foreplay it doesnt happen, and she is happy to go months without sex.. So what am I to do? Divorce her, I dont want everything I've worked for over the last 15 years to be given away, I dont want to have to give her 1/2 my wage so she can get herself back on her feet.Women complain about cheating husbands... you know the reason why, WHERE HUMAN BEINGS, we have needs and wants, and when your PARTNER refuses, just flat out refuses to do anything about it, what are you supposed to do, masterbate for the rest of your life.Oh thats the honerable way of doing things, honestly, Grow up... Thats my 2c

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'sexymylf' Quoting 'sxy30sGCguy' If you read thru all the pages you will see that there have been comments made about women cheating too. The women are ripping into the men as these are our experiences that we are talking about and the writer of the post did refer to a man. She is talking about a married man not a married woman here so we are responding to that. If monogamy is not normal then dont be with that person then. Simple really, or do what others do and swing. Dont cheat, theres no need for it. Thats all I'm saying. My partner and i were swingers at one stage too. We are not being sexist here or singling one sex out. I spoke about my experiences because I'm a woman and youre speaking about your experiences because you are a man. The issue is cheating and lying not who does it more men or women. Sounds like she did you a favour too from what I'm reading. thanks for the kind comment .......................your right she definitely did me a HUGE favor...thankfully i found out what she was really like before i married her and had kids which would have only made it more messy when we split.   Although it still hurts like hell.....but she did me a favor in the long run. You should see the dude shes now with as well, talk about fucking ugly...looks like drug fucked ned kelly, minus the suit of armor lol she definitely took a step backwards in quality ...whereas since she left me, ive had the pleasure of bedding some of the most gorgeous women Ive ever had.....all of which leave my ex for dead in looks and personality. At least when i move on from a relationship, i take a step UP in quality....and not a backward step.   karma is a motherfucker lol and shes already getting hers lol ...........i can bet she misses the hell out of my big fat cock and talented tongue, guys like me dont grow on trees. Her loss hahaha

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'sxy30sGCguy' Quoting 'sexymylf' Quoting 'sxy30sGCguy' If you read thru all the pages you will see that there have been comments made about women cheating too. The women are ripping into the men as these are our experiences that we are talking about and the writer of the post did refer to a man. She is talking about a married man not a married woman here so we are responding to that. If monogamy is not normal then dont be with that person then. Simple really, or do what others do and swing. Dont cheat, theres no need for it. Thats all I'm saying. My partner and i were swingers at one stage too. We are not being sexist here or singling one sex out. I spoke about my experiences because I'm a woman and youre speaking about your experiences because you are a man. The issue is cheating and lying not who does it more men or women. Sounds like she did you a favour too from what I'm reading. thanks for the kind comment .......................your right she definitely did me a HUGE favor...thankfully i found out what she was really like before i married her and had kids which would have only made it more messy when we split.   Although it still hurts like hell.....but she did me a favor in the long run. You should see the dude shes now with as well, talk about fucking ugly...looks like drug fucked ned kelly, minus the suit of armor lol she definitely took a step backwards in quality ...whereas since she left me, ive had the pleasure of bedding some of the most gorgeous women Ive ever had.....all of which leave my ex for dead in looks and personality. At least when i move on from a relationship, i take a step UP in quality....and not a backward step.   karma is a motherfucker lol and shes already getting hers lol ...........i can bet she misses the hell out of my big fat cock and talented tongue, guys like me dont grow on trees. Her loss hahaha How is she getting Karma? Seems to me that she has moved on to someone that she is happy with (reason why she moved in with him I'm guessing) and I am guessing that she is getting tongue and cock and enjoying it! Any guy she ends up with would be ugly in your eyes anyway! I see anger as the ugliest trait in a person! I really doubt that anyone would sleep with you as you are so angry and bitter! You are so bitter that you couldn't even see that people had written about married women too...and when SexyM replied to your post...you still ranted about your anger instead of acknowledging anything she said! Things happen in life for a reason...let it go and be happy....nothing you can do about the past...Nothing you or I can do about anyone that LIES about being married/attached! But, we shouldn't be angry with the ones that honestly tell us they are married/attached as they are giving us the respect to make up our own minds if we want to sleep with them or not! xFunlovingx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'sxy30sGCguy' One thing ive not seen in this forum is anyone saying anything about lying cheating women?? There is just as many lying cheating women out there as men... read what we posted.......and what Leesa of cplsint posted...oh and what DonnaBrett posted.......and Stalky, and Kinisthenewpink....... all of us posted and metioned women cheating and lying, within 24 hours of the topic being posted.................... we all get that the lies and the cheating arent gender specific.... and all said so..on the 8th...a week ago......lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I guess it's just the men that lie women do also so don't make the men out to be bad as we are just as bad as the men also

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    have never lied about my attached status pays to be up front don't get into trouble that way and we all haven't go large egos

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quote: Although it still hurts like hell.....but she did me a favor in the long run. You should see the dude shes now with as well, talk about fucking ugly...looks like drug fucked ned kelly, minus the suit of armor lol she definitely took a step backwards in quality ...whereas since she left me, ive had the pleasure of bedding some of the most gorgeous women Ive ever had.....all of which leave my ex for dead in looks and personality. At least when i move on from a relationship, i take a step UP in quality....and not a backward step. - unquote     Her loss ??????????????????????????????????????? - you think ???? after reading your post, do you REALLY BELIEVE THAT ???????................................Newsflash ...she left you for a reason....gee Im wondering what that reason could be now ???????????????????     Quote: bet she misses the hell out of my big fat cock and talented tongue, guys like me dont grow on trees. Her loss hahaha: unquote ........................................doubt it.....cocks and tongues are a plenty out there for us women - its a bloody smorgasboard and plenty of guys that know how to use them too, without boasting...........does she miss your shit condescending degrading attitude ??.......mmm, let me think about that one for a moment..   I truly pity your next partner, girlfriend, wife !!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I don't think we need critique a persons personal journey in this thread. We all got a story to tell and some people like to write it down to get it off their chest, for personal clarity more than as an invitation to get stomped on. Plus, the thread is about people who do not disclose that they are married.... not the morality or otherwise of an individual who openly admits they're married. If you want to discuss that aspect, there are numerous previous threads to do it in, or start your own. Bloody hell. Taking the moral high ground on RHP is like looking for honor amongst theives. Live and let live.... A bit like a pirate code. Hehe. Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    the threads as much about lies, as it is about the people who tell them. that someone shares here that they are attached, doesnt mean they havent told lies to get here in the first place....... do their partners know they are here? or have they declined the sharing of that? withholding information deliberately is as much a lie as anything else. we chose to have no untruths in our life, from each other, or from the people we invite into our life. we did this knowing we'd be excluding a huge slice of the rhp population,but hey, we sleep guilt free and have clear consciences as a result..... and fear no 'discovery', as the cards have been played in all cases, and the hands are on show....the 'moral high ground' only exists to those who choose to fly under the radar, to those who choose deception over veracity, and to those who choose infidelity over their relationships.... we live our lives the same here, as anywhere else, with the same values and beliefs....and we have come into contact with many who are the same.... its a shame though, that there are those who do not, or cannot, and these are the people we deliberately choose to exclude. theres no moralising, theres no code, and theres no judgements, just educated and thoughtful choices...about what we like and dont like............ and what we like is honesty, in all areas, our friends here should reflect that as well, as those are the values we treasure, above sex, and above play. we found, after all, that part of attraction was actually 'liking' someone.....and we dont like liars......sounds like there are many who feel the same way.... which is a wonderful thing..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    we get it.   And if they had electric chair, well there is your solution, fuckers! fry you fuckers! And you home wreckers with big tits, I will squash em in a vice, you fucking home wreckers!   How many of you do the stalking thing, like where is that prick shall I go to his work? tell his wife or girlfriend or boyfriend?   Boil the bunny?   No really. how many of you have actually done something back at your cheating x? Me first My x used to use my tooth brush all the time, cause he was too lazy to reach for his own. So one day I went out and brushed the Doberman teeth with my tooth brush..yep you guessed it. I had to try not to smile, only just told him I did that, he said what a bitch lol I also took the credit card , and David Jones became my new best friend. Yep I get the cheating husband thing, but I also get that hey each person has his/her own unique set reasons for doing what they do. We all get hurt by kids, boyfriends, the arse holele boss or friends ,family yada yada Let go, Or you end up like that monkey with a closed fist down a hole and he wonders why he cant get his arm out of the hole.   Live, love forgive, forget move on down that road.   You do not appreciate it till one day, you find out the road is shorter than you think.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I sent a message when i was single asking if you would like to catch up. I am now attached, so have not sent another message.A lot of guys think they will get away with anything, but the fact of the matter is......They won't. People who do this, i think have no respect for the opposite sex and themselves.Just my thoughts.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    some of us have let go of our previous lives..... but that doesnt mean we either forgave or forgot, what point is there, in doing either...that just gets others off the 'hook' and maybe assuages their guilt. no...we chose to learn, and to modify our own behaviour, and to not make the same, or similar choices that we made in the past... if theres a lesson in being exposed to dishonesty, it has to be about trust....that we should never give trust easily, and we should never, ever take anyone at face value.and to never, ever again allow anyone else to make either of us their victim. we now drive very hard bargains..in every aspect of our lives, and it pays huge dividends. we wont be used, and we certainly wont be using anyone else, as thats a hollow and meaningless way to live or to love.   why would you accept that someone has lied, to you, to themselves, or to another, just to be able to indulge what amounts to a selfish 'want'.... we dont get how anyone could do this, and have an iota of respect for themselves as a result, or for the person that has lied? how can any sort of relationship grow, when its nestled on a bed of dishonesty? we enjoy being able to 'like' the people we share our time with....and the people we 'like'.........usually become our friends..........friends are those we also 'respect', and to respect anyone.....its funny, but we really do have to 'trust' them first.......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Sex is like anything - if you have the same all the time it gets stale. I love lobster but if I eat all the time and nothing else I will get bored of it. If you add variety to your diet then lobster will always taste goooood. Nothing like the taste of new flesh to (re) envigorate.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel' some of us have let go of our previous lives..... but that doesnt mean we either forgave or forgot, what point is there, in doing either...that just gets others off the 'hook' and maybe assuages their guilt. no...we chose to learn, and to modify our own behaviour, and to not make the same, or similar choices that we made in the past... if theres a lesson in being exposed to dishonesty, it has to be about trust....that we should never give trust easily, and we should never, ever take anyone at face value.and to never, ever again allow anyone else to make either of us their victim. we now drive very hard bargains..in every aspect of our lives, and it pays huge dividends. we wont be used, and we certainly wont be using anyone else, as thats a hollow and meaningless way to live or to love.   why would you accept that someone has lied, to you, to themselves, or to another, just to be able to indulge what amounts to a selfish 'want'.... we dont get how anyone could do this, and have an iota of respect for themselves as a result, or for the person that has lied? how can any sort of relationship grow, when its nestled on a bed of dishonesty? we enjoy being able to 'like' the people we share our time with....and the people we 'like'.........usually become our friends..........friends are those we also 'respect', and to respect anyone.....its funny, but we really do have to 'trust' them first....... You do not get it, but then that’s understandable.   I do not get Einstein theory of relativity either.   Self respect is relative to how long is a ball of string I think Hitler probably had too much self respect.   I just do not indulge in the them and us kinda stuff. Judge the persons behaviour if it happens to you,then make your own choices. But this blanket they are all bastards stuff never goes down well with me.   That kind of thinking, that rigid point of view that sermon of the mount is divisive and not compassionate.   This is of course my own thoughts my own values, I do not think you a lesser person, nor do I think you show lackof self respect or blah blah about your character.   Its your opinion on this matter that I find a bit scary in its vehement ferocity,   Most that are anti married people have been cheated on, me as well but I just cannot bring myself to castigate anyone re the choices they made, including my x husband.   In all honesty I feel a sense of empathy for them.   To all those married people out there reading this thread, the vocal are not the majority here.   So do not think that we are all a bunch of people wanting to line up for the stone throwing Olympics.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I choose to forgive and forget there is no room in my life for wasting one more precious moment of my time thinking of my past and he doesnt deserve one thought from me.Saying i forgive youand feel sorry for you for all that you did to me, to yourself about someone that has hurt you so bad physically and emotionally is 100% courage i say.Just saying.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    There'll be no forgiveness given in this thread. It won't end untill they find a suitable lying husband to crucify. After that, the blokes will start a thread entitled 'Lying wives' which will culminate in the public stoneing of a select scarlet woman. Get out the popcorn, put your feet up and enjoy the show.

  • erotictouch4u

    erotictouch4u

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'jensman1903' ...which will culminate in the public stoneing of a select scarlet woman. The kind you throw or the kind you smoke ? ET xox

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'tuscanred' Quoting 'mikeandshel' some of us have let go of our previous lives..... but that doesnt mean we either forgave or forgot, what point is there, in doing either...that just gets others off the 'hook' and maybe assuages their guilt. no...we chose to learn, and to modify our own behaviour, and to not make the same, or similar choices that we made in the past... if theres a lesson in being exposed to dishonesty, it has to be about trust....that we should never give trust easily, and we should never, ever take anyone at face value.and to never, ever again allow anyone else to make either of us their victim. we now drive very hard bargains..in every aspect of our lives, and it pays huge dividends. we wont be used, and we certainly wont be using anyone else, as thats a hollow and meaningless way to live or to love.   why would you accept that someone has lied, to you, to themselves, or to another, just to be able to indulge what amounts to a selfish 'want'.... we dont get how anyone could do this, and have an iota of respect for themselves as a result, or for the person that has lied? how can any sort of relationship grow, when its nestled on a bed of dishonesty? we enjoy being able to 'like' the people we share our time with....and the people we 'like'.........usually become our friends..........friends are those we also 'respect', and to respect anyone.....its funny, but we really do have to 'trust' them first....... You do not get it, but then that’s understandable.   I do not get Einstein theory of relativity either.   Self respect is relative to how long is a ball of string I think Hitler probably had too much self respect.   I just do not indulge in the them and us kinda stuff. Judge the persons behaviour if it happens to you,then make your own choices. But this blanket they are all bastards stuff never goes down well with me.   That kind of thinking, that rigid point of view that sermon of the mount is divisive and not compassionate.   This is of course my own thoughts my own values, I do not think you a lesser person, nor do I think you show lackof self respect or blah blah about your character.   Its your opinion on this matter that I find a bit scary in its vehement ferocity,   Most that are anti married people have been cheated on, me as well but I just cannot bring myself to castigate anyone re the choices they made, including my x husband.   In all honesty I feel a sense of empathy for them.   To all those married people out there reading this thread, the vocal are not the majority here.   So do not think that we are all a bunch of people wanting to line up for the stone throwing Olympics. isnt this conversational? it is from my vantage point. if i were sermonising i'd be telling others what to do...i'm not. stating what we/I want/like/prefer is hardly a sermon, asking questions isnt sermonizing, nor is sharing beliefs and opinions. i'm not vehement, nor ferocious...if i were, i'd be calling people names, and calling down hellfire and brimstone, so that i might 'smite the sinners'....lol...but i'm not.   the point of the thread was the telling of lies. i dont get liars, or the need to tell a lie....the truth is so much simpler, and so much more 'convenient'........... you tell a lie, and from that moment on.....you put yourself in limbo and await discovery... how satisfying could that be?   'forgiveness' and 'empathy' might work for you Leesa, or for you Tuscan, but they are your choices. we dont see the need to do either, as 'learning' and 'adapting' is more who we are... and by adapting, i dont mean moving the lines to blur things more or less.... the choices we made in previous lives are no longer relevant to the life we have now, as we have evolved from the people we once were.... oh and yea.... i get Einstein, he said 'The value of a man should be seen in what he gives and not in what he is able to receive' and 'Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters'. kinda fits? we all make choices, we all make mistakes, and we all (hopefully) learn from these....we have, and our choice is to no longer make the same mistakes we made previously, one of which was to not value either the 'truth' or 'honesty' as highly as we should have. we want these from others....and absolutely guarantee that others will get these from us. thats a promise.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'jensman1903' There'll be no forgiveness given in this thread. It won't end untill they find a suitable lying husband to crucify. After that, the blokes will start a thread entitled 'Lying wives' which will culminate in the public stoneing of a select scarlet woman. Get out the popcorn, put your feet up and enjoy the show. Well i was the exception..lol and i am sure there are other women out there that choose to forgive and move on too, Rhianna was one of them..lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Why do women advertise as just women and then when you hit them up a partner comes out of the wood work?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    But the forgiving women aren't here on this thread now, are they?

  • bigfella42

    bigfella42

    14 years ago

    well said happily married and allowed to play

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    You want "couples using single's profiles" but I doubt that there's anything more to add.

  • QLDtwo4fun

    QLDtwo4fun

    14 years ago

    I feel a bit sorry for cheating spouses. We weren't swingers when we met and we have enjoyed the journey into swinging together. It has certainly enhanced our relationship. No matter how good the offer we would avoid cheating partners, who needs the drama if someone gets caught. I wonder how many cheating spouses are going home to a sexual frustrated and bored partner? Try some honesty at home, don't start with lets become swingers, start with talking about a few fantasies it may be reciprocated. And before you know it your fantasies may become realities together.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    In my experience, there is no shortage ofy women on sex and dating sites are cheating on their guys looking for a better offer. Being a liaris not a particularly male thing.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'QLDtwo4fun'I feel a bit sorry for cheating spouses. We weren't swingers when we met and we have enjoyed the journey into swinging together. It has certainly enhanced our relationship. No matter how good the offer we would avoid cheating partners, who needs the drama if someone gets caught. I wonder how many cheating spouses are going home to a sexual frustrated and bored partner? Try some honesty at home, don't start with lets become swingers, start with talking about a few fantasies it may be reciprocated. And before you know it your fantasies may become realities together. thats where our thoughts would be...and with the husbands and wives who are sitting at home, or at work busting their humps, while their partners are out there 'playing'..........

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    I have a story to tell,..A few years back we were out to dinner with a couple from our work. ( real job..lol not club) you see we are building designers by day...I knew the guy was playing up on his wife and i knew she didnt know and it was breaking my heart.We got into the conversation of cheating, hehe, dont ask me how, ( maybe i started it lol ) and they were asking us about our lifestyle. She asked me how could i have sex with others ....my response to her while looking at HER husband was......"Well think of it like this......What would you prefer, i will give you an instance...While a guy is out there fucking his secretaty behind his wives back.....Bryan would be fucking our secretary while i watched...... ( obviously Bryan wasn't..lol )"She looked at me and said..omg i would prefer to watch for sure....i understand it is about communication and doing it together ...how wonderful..."I said YES and looked at him and he put his head down..."Hence to say they are now seperated as she finally found out....and she called me thanked me for giving her insight into the lifestyle back then. She now enjoys a wonderful relationship with a wonderful guy that adhores her...NO more needs to be said i think.Leesa

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Nudierudie2'Some occasionally or situation-ally,Some all of the time.the thing liars have in common though ........ all Liars get caught..I do not agree with the comment that you should call up the wife and tell her everything....How do liars get caught out on this site plz?????????????????????????????/ I want to know????????????

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Call me silly but honestly how do you know someone is a player? How do you know someone is lieing? This site is so full of them?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'xxxLadyInRedxxx' Call me silly but honestly how do you know someone is a player? How do you know someone is lieing? This site is so full of them?  you cant really, but you can make it harder....by insisiting he host (at a residence) on a saturday night, by insisting on a 24/7 land line phone number, by insisting you not be 'kept secret' from anyone, and by insisting you meet in very public and very popular places..... how people behave when given these as conditions rather than options....will be very revealing.....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Anyone who tells you they never lie is a liar.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    I play alone with my hubbys complete knowledge and consent.. its a turn on for him.. i play BECAUSE he allows it, I would not be here if he didnt want me to be or if he was unaware.. he is the love of my life.. If anything u do hurts the one u love then u shouldnt be doing it.. if u cant tell her about it.. then u shouldnt be doing it.. If my mr couldnt have sex for what ever reason i wouldnt be looking elsewhere i would be giving him my full support, and lastly if my mr cheated on me it would break my heart, devastate me so i could never be part of putting another woman in this postion, if u dont love ur partner, dont cheat leave and give both of u a second chance to find that elusive love.. its not always just about the sex. cheers Tasti

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'xxxLadyInRedxxx' Call me silly but honestly how do you know someone is a player? How do you know someone is lieing? This site is so full of them?  you cant really, but you can make it harder....by insisiting he host (at a residence) on a saturday night, by insisting on a 24/7 land line phone number, by insisting you not be 'kept secret' from anyone, and by insisting you meet in very public and very popular places..... how people behave when given these as conditions rather than options....will be very revealing..... If a person Insisted I did these things, I would tell them to go fuck themselves instead of me.   Meeting in public is fine the rest is just an invasion of a persons privacy.   Its like instructions for how to invite a whack job into your life.   But hey if I insist they give me their credit card details, drivers licence, where they work, blood type, last STD check. Resume from previous fucks, note from wife to say they can come out and play. One pubic hair that I can check their DNA. ohh yeah first cum into this little jar I hold for them. colour of grandmothers eyes....hey you may have something here I am on a roll now

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'tuscanred' Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'xxxLadyInRedxxx' Call me silly but honestly how do you know someone is a player? How do you know someone is lieing? This site is so full of them?  you cant really, but you can make it harder....by insisiting he host (at a residence) on a saturday night, by insisting on a 24/7 land line phone number, by insisting you not be 'kept secret' from anyone, and by insisting you meet in very public and very popular places..... how people behave when given these as conditions rather than options....will be very revealing..... If a person Insisted I did these things, I would tell them to go fuck themselves instead of me.   Meeting in public is fine the rest is just an invasion of a persons privacy.   Its like instructions for how to invite a whack job into your life.   But hey if I insist they give me their credit card details, drivers licence, where they work, blood type, last STD check. Resume from previous fucks, note from wife to say they can come out and play. One pubic hair that I can check their DNA. ohh yeah first cum into this little jar I hold for them. colour of grandmothers eyes....hey you may have something here I am on a roll now how are any of these things an'invasion of a persons privacy'??? thats ridiculous ... we ask for these things...and single guys are quite willing to supply them...so far 100% of the time.... the ones that dont..when asked...freely admit that they wont..because they are attached..... ffs inviting someone into your life, and even bedroom is so bloody dangerous that you'd be a fool to do so without at least attempting to find out if they are who they say they are, and if they are genuine or not. we ONLY play with those who can provide a venue thats not a hotel, motel or carpark somewhere, we ONLY play when we are free, which is a Saturday night, not 10am on every second Wednesday, we ONLY play with guys who we can contact on our terms, ie reliably on a phone number thats not 'switched off' or 'unavailable', so yea, insist on a home phone number, but give ours as well, if we feel ok to do so. and we ONLY ever meet in venues of our choice, be they a 'coffee club' somewhere, or one of the 'sporting clubs' etc that litter the landscape (remembering that we too can be recognised)...... my wife has already been stalked by someone who we met, but subsequently rejected, turns out he was married, and went by an entirely different name to the one he gave us. that will never happen again. so you'd suggest not taking any precautions? we should invite people into our home or life without caring about our safety? on face value? this works for us...and seriously...thats all we care about..each others safety.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'gtbi_mm' Readysetgo: By not telling your partner you are deceiving her and that is as bad as liying, its just sugar coating the truth... FrustratedPlus when we meet couples or sinle females my wife and I always meet as a couple but my wife does perfer when we meet single bi-guys is for me to meet them first coss if I dont like then they dont get in the door........ But thats us.... I'm glad you do this as a couple, but there a several "couples" who don't . I'm glad that you are at least together

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    14 years ago

    Well i agree with mike and shel

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    14 years ago

    I'm married and I've posted that I'm married. I'm hoping to meet someone else who wants a discreet relationship in the same situation. In theory it should be safer, safer sex, and both parties don't want to bring anything home. Safer relationship, no ties, just fun and you trust the discretion of the other person.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'tuscanred'Well i agree with mike and shel we think we cant be too careful...and honestly believe that whatever hurdles a woman can put up, that add to her security..are absolutely ok...

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'sexymylf' Well i agree with mike and shel here with the exception of the landline. Some people dont even have a home landline anymore , a few of my close girlfriends dont even have one and I wont have people ringing me on my work phone on work time so a mobile will suffice these days. I got called a bunny boiler and a stalker and women on here canned me and told guys to be wary of me. As ive said before my trick is to add them on facebook. It tells me where they work, where they live, what they do, their families, their friends, the same as it tells them that about me. Its not about stalking, its about getting to know them as people and whether i want to give my body to them. I know where they work, they know where i work. If they have nothing to hide then its all good, they will add you to facebook. Im not saying this is for everyone as not everyones on facebook but its the tool i use and how i guage guys. And failing that I see if they exist on facebook. Ive been invited to boys houses while their parents are away. I could easily make problems there but why would i bother? Nothing wrong with meeting people in public places either. But married men will do that too, its happened to me before. So even thats not always an indication. Again, I let them host or we go without, if they are willing to host then id say theyre not hiding much. we've not struck anyone without a home phone...so have yet to cross that hurdle... for us..security is a very important issue...as is honesty....

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    14 years ago

    Just a question...What if the guys did the same to you guys....If they would not play anywhere other than your home...what if they wanted your details Re; home phone number, dress size, shoe size, and kids names...'I would say get FUCKED!...So it goes both ways,,, don't expect someone to do what you want them to do , unless you are prepared to do the same with them.After all you could be a murderous couple...lol and he could be a innocent male....Food for thought hey single guys.I say a face picture is enough..( i have weeded out many married men at the club level with that ) If they arent prepared to have a face picture in an open profile, trust me they are usually married.....and a few simple questions about them and what they do etc.....after all who really cares, it isn't that important to play anyhow so if they suit you , move on....Leesa xxx

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel' you cant really, but you can make it harder....by insisiting he host (at a residence) on a saturday night, by insisting on a 24/7 land line phone number, by insisting you not be 'kept secret' from anyone, and by insisting you meet in very public and very popular places..... how people behave when given these as conditions rather than options....will be very revealing..... You have insisted upon some very strict guidelines here, and of course it is entirely your prerogative to do so. But tell me, if someone asked you to do the same, would you comply?

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    14 years ago

    We never give out out address or home phone untill we know the people we are dealing with.....   Sorry but we had 2 guys storking us a few years back and just dont want to happen again......   One was a married guy cheating on his wife the only reason he left us along was I told him we where going to get the police involed the other one will still have trouble with him, finger crossed we have not seen him for about 6 months now..

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'tuscanred'Well i agree with mike and shel we think we cant be too careful...and honestly believe that whatever hurdles a woman can put up, that add to her security..are absolutely ok... umm no i meant that the other woman agrees with you, not me lol sorry my sarcasim was lost someplace.   you know me, we lock horns now and again, re this subject.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'mooka' Quoting 'mikeandshel' you cant really, but you can make it harder....by insisiting he host (at a residence) on a saturday night, by insisting on a 24/7 land line phone number, by insisting you not be 'kept secret' from anyone, and by insisting you meet in very public and very popular places..... how people behave when given these as conditions rather than options....will be very revealing..... You have insisted upon some very strict guidelines here, and of course it is entirely your prerogative to do so. But tell me, if someone asked you to do the same, would you comply? lol..i played here ages back, when single and living alone....by being up front and making my home and phone number available, and myself accessible, I played most weekends. these are the things i offered to those i played with.....and I had truckloads of fun as a result. single guys dont get that couples have lives that they'd do anything to protect,...we have kids (5) and grandkids (4), and have had too many bad experiences with unresaonable men for us to not take extra precautions...... it works for us.

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    14 years ago

    They are simply kidding themselves is all.   For two reasons:   1- if they have an affair, and don't get caught, then they're justifying in their own minds, that they haven't cheated   2- they feel too guilty about HAVING an affair and try to forestall, being found out, for as long as possible   That's all.   Men are simple, uncomplicated things. No need to add further to this summary   Cheers Enzo

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    14 years ago

    ha amazing, married not gettin enough, fuckit I ll go to a brothel and get a fuck, so what i ll have to pay, but no commitment, then I ll go home and continue my normal every day life until I can squirell away enough to do it again with another whore , someone different this time, no emotional connection, just big tits, and all the sexy gear, do it till I m caught maybe, or just maybe, I m lonely , for whatever reason, I ll go on a dating/ sex site and see how I go , maybe find some connection, engage in some meaningful dialogue, and set up a date, find that there really is a connection and maybe we enjoy each others company for what it is, and we want to do it some more and so on,,, the truth eventually presents itself, oh fuck we re both married, well who cares , we enjoy our time together lets keep doing it....................... I ll take the latter anyday, sex without some connection is not for me, i d rather mrs palmer.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Mrs_PeachyPear'I'd expect people like mikeandshel to take the best care of themselves possible. After all, if anyone doesn't like their terms, they can always move on. Happychick, I think lying spouses like the one's you speak of suck. It's not bad enough they lie to their loved one, they then bring others into their lies making them victims and accessories at the same time.Hugs... Mrs P we all have a vested interest in protecting ourselves and our relationships.... that we make people jump through hoops ,just means at the end of the day, the ones that stick with us turn out to be sensational people who are worth knowing...away from the sexual side...we like people with character and strength, and appreciate it when those who wish to meet us are able to show some determination and patience. its a win/win situation in our eyes...we get the best....and hopefully they feel the same too......

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    14 years ago

    "life's short, have an affair"

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Narregrlx'"life's short, have an affair" yea exactly..........

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    14 years ago

    I m with you, enjoy it while u can

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    14 years ago

    Without the emotional outbursts and labelling, if we edit the OP a little and focus on the actual question, "Why not just put unsatisfied with wife or girlfriend or not getting enough?" Back in January, Jennylee initiated a thread entitled 'Friends and playmates' asing whether people prefer fwb's or anonymous hook ups. Stalky was the first to respond and I think his post might shed some light here. Two separate worlds for me. Anonymity goes a long way to avoiding the awkward circumstances where you feel it is difficult to say "next" if you want to. You can just say it without remorse or risk of splitting up your lifelong friends and, potentially your family. Plus, swinging is a bit of realised fantasy and role play in an otherwise "normal" life. An escape. You can be Carmin Miranda if you want to and you can dress up and adopt a completely different character each time you venture out into your secret world of slut. It's more difficult to do those things unless you're largely anonymous. It's difficult to be taken seriously as a district court judge if you are wearing a bra on your head. Hugs Stalky If a person is looking for some nsa affairs, why bring along the baggage he's trying to escape?

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    14 years ago

    (Original post by Stalky on 'Friends and playmates)   Two seperate worlds for me.   Anonymity goes a long way to avoiding the awkward circumstances where you feel it is difficult to say "next" if you want to. You can just say it without remorse or risk of splitting up your lifelong friends and, potentially your family. Plus, swinging is a bit of realised fantasy and role play in an otherwise "normal" life. An escape. You can be Carmin Miranda if you want to and you can dress up and adopt a completely different character each time you venture out into your secret world of slut. It's more difficult to do those things unless you're largely anonymous. It's difficult to be taken seriously as a district court judge if you are wearing a bra on your head. Hugs Stalky

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'againsthewind63'I m with you, enjoy it while u can no...i mean this is the site for those who want to cheat...not RHP....some of us dont want deception and lies as part of our play.. funny that hey?

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    14 years ago

    I just got a message from a lass in WA. It was entitled "Catfight"   "Well since your little brain enjoys them.. You are one for myself to be avoided.. I have not a clue why I was dragged into comments made on Lying husbands forum..   ffsss"   Now, while I acknowledge that I should be avoided by any and all civilised persons, I know that I made no reference to this lass. What's more, I can't find any post on this thread from her so I'm at a loss to figure out how she was "dragged into comments made on Lying husbands forum" nor how I had anything to do with it. After sending me this message, her profile was blocked to me so my inquiry into how I had involved her could not be sent. I do have to say that, if the only thing she found offensive on this thread was my quip about catfights, she must be one very confused individual. You've really got to feel sorry for a person like that, don't you? Poor baby.

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    14 years ago

    I was merely attempting to side track the emotional aspect and address the actual question of why they do it. There has been enough raw emotion expressed already. I felt a little analitical logic was called for.

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    14 years ago

    where it should be, instead of making a stealth attack via messages and then blocking replies. As to focussing on the question posed in the OP and ignorng the emotion, we've had ten pages of mostly emotional outbursts ignoring the question. I figured it was about time motives were looked at impartially. Both posts were offered merely to stimulate debate. I wasn't making any pretense to altruism. You still never cease to amaze me at the arbitrary way you choose to take opposition to a statement.

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    14 years ago

    Jensman,Don't fret, I sent a message to a someone last year about a post she made - she immediately cut and pasted it back into the forums with some drivel about 'what starts in the forums, stays in the forums'.How things have changed .... lolMooka

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    14 years ago

    It has been stated on this thread several times that everyone lies. Not all to the same extent but we all do it. Even happychick67 admitted to lying when cornered by the "lying husband's" wife. That doesn't qualify her as a liar to my mind. Whether you care to admit it or not, Mrs. P., you have lied but I don't suspect you of being a liar. Stalky, in the post I cut and pasted earlier, spoke of role playing but I don't believe he's a liar (then again, Stalky may even proclaim proudly that he is) Myself, I was a philandering, married man but only after living in seperate rooms for three years and having caught my wife with other men twice and all the girls I played with knew I was married. I would be greatly offended at being called a liar as I'm stubbornly honest, even to my own detriment. Do we know the circumstances of happychick's liar. Was there any justification for his behaviour or was he actually a habitual liar. Was he feeling unloved at home? Did he choose role playing to escape reality while being an otherwise honest man? Which are the liars you hate, Mrs. P. and what qualified them for that title?

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    14 years ago

    Time to stop following this thread...andTime to hop on over to "THE RIGHT THING" thread....... and follow it.... until it too becomes 10 pages of Married, Lying, Cheaters from a males perspective

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    14 years ago

    its 'analytical' logic...... is what you describe.....as analitical....logic for asses? some here have offered up both.......emotive responses and logical responses..... we say the motives are often less than genuine, but obviously can sometimes be..... 'just because they can....and do'........men lie about their marital status to either..get something they dont have...or to hide something they do have.......

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    14 years ago

    Sorry. Been their & cautiously wont go so easily which brings me to the topic of the damage it does to people on the same easy going open & honest wave length to someone who will do anything to satisfy perhaps selfishly driven urges. It is destructive & deceptive & people acting this way set us all back. I'd say no one your going to meet would not have baggage but Am I asking you to carry mine? Finding out important details then being used to help conceal is so very very wrong & manipulative when people have invested in you. Boooooooo

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    14 years ago

    Due to a few inbox messages I've received from cheating partners, I feel I should make it clear that I was simply pointing out Ashley Madison is the site for cheaters. I'm 23, i just wanna have fun, I don't need, or want your baggage or complications thanks.

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    14 years ago

    If they audit all my posts I'll get life.   I'm pretty sure we all know the purpose of lying but what's the motivation? I was merely suggesting that, if they are unhappy with their lives but felt unable to escape, they may try to create an alternate life through role playing. If you're pretending to be someone else (right or wrong) why would you bring along the baggage of your existing happy life? It's nothing I've done myself and I'm not suggesting it's what is happening in all the examples that have been presented in this thread. It was just a theory and I thought I'd put it out there. Perhaps someone has another. Discussion or debate does not always have to be arguement.

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    14 years ago

    My husband is a cheating slt he fcked all the girls in brothels hear and im the mother sitten at home looken after his kid why he cheated new new pussy lol his a jerk i stayed wid him for 4 years and he cheated across my back to still my kid for citizenship thats why there always a problem with them and no i dont cheat im a good wife lol PS im getting him erased in July and he can shove it were the sun dont shine...! im a woman on a mission and im hear to exterminate...!

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    14 years ago

    must be me, but i could not understand anything you said newrelationship sorry, i wanted to comment but i read it over and over again and still could not understand what you were saying.Leesa xxx

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    14 years ago

    Now see what you've all done! Someone's gone and sliced open a new fruitcake and we're a long way of Christmas! I think a cuppa Tea and some old Doctor Who re-runs are in order. Go on then you lot. Bring on the Darleks. I'm ready. Hugs Stalky

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    14 years ago

    My Fav Dr... Who? Yeah Yeah. White with two stalky... Jelly bean anyone? Even The Mighty Dr Who , who had two hearts to battle the awkward moment when you get into the back of the van & their's no candy. EXTERMINATE HUSBANDSTell me??? Why do peeps still marry anyways. Divorce rate 80% E-X-T-R-M-I-N-A-T-E !!!!

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Mrs_PeachyPear' Quoting 'Needau22' Tell me??? Why do peeps still marry anyways. Divorce rate 80% E-X-T-R-M-I-N-A-T-E !!!! 20+ years here!Hugs... Mrs P well done ! its a shame others (me included) dont have the stamina...to tough it out.....

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Mrs_PeachyPear' Quoting 'mikeandshel' Quoting 'Mrs_PeachyPear' Quoting 'Needau22' Tell me??? Why do peeps still marry anyways. Divorce rate 80% E-X-T-R-M-I-N-A-T-E !!!! 20+ years here!Hugs... Mrs P well done ! its a shame others (me included) dont have the stamina...to tough it out..... I am a very, very lucky girl! And incredibly grateful for all I have.Hugs... Mrs P i just wish that i'd had the courage to ask the question all those years ago.... i knew my now wife at highschool...but never dared dream we'd be together....turns out she noticed me, but was too shy to act as well...what a shame. i married someone i thought i loved, and knew.....but it turned out i didnt....so we went amicably on our seperate ways...still friends as we share 2 wonderful children (now young adults)...so no real regrets at all.............

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    14 years ago

    At least you got the caveman bit right !

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    14 years ago

    Dam those lying Husbands Dam them to HELL     Lucky there is no Lying Wifes .. then it would be even so no back to daming them to HELL

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    14 years ago

    Do yo think there could possibly be such a thing???

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'jensman1903'Do yo think there could possibly be such a thing??? yea....there are... didnt you guys know? lol...

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    14 years ago

    Tsk tsk,....hehehehe Cheers Felonius

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    14 years ago

    Even that sweet pea that sent me an abusive message privately hasn't re-emerged to try to validate her complaints against me. Not to worry, I won't be chasing her. It all seems to have ended on a lovey dovey note. Pity. I was looking forward to that public crucifixion of a lying husband. Ce la vie.

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Stalky' Now see what you've all done! Someone's gone and sliced open a new fruitcake and we're a long way of Christmas! I think a cuppa Tea and some old Doctor Who re-runs are in order. Go on then you lot. Bring on the Darleks. I'm ready. Hugs Stalky Ii now i am new here but i must say your posts and words used have me in stitches, used to think i was good but gee some folks on here can really go some. (verbally) Best i find my old self pretty quick or ill sound quite boaring to some LOL

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    14 years ago

    think i should read what i write before posting

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    14 years ago

    I dont lie never have as far as emotions, partners go etc ( to the police to help a mate different story)I am also trying to teach my kids not to lie too, if the truth no punishment hopefuly they will turn out the same. What gets me is the machos out there, if my partner slept with some one else I wouldn’t go and bash the other persons brain in, though fully capable. Its not there fault one needs to address the situation that sent her astray, be it alcohol or what ever, she may have said she was single. Then this poor bloke goes to hospital for having sex with a beautiful woman. What’s that all about? No I haven’t been beaten up for sleeping with someone’s wife but know a few relationships where it’s happened. This is the side that needs to be addressed, like the poster of this thread (Happychick) Why should she get shit of the wife, quite simple she shouldn’t. The wife should have stayed calm and collective but once Happychick leaves then address the hubby. Think about it how much more of an impact would that make on every one concerned. Hubby would be a different person all together. I am not saying bash his or her brains, but to talk and find out the reason, If you want to put a stop to it you need to talk calmly and find out why and address that, if that cant be changed then you need to make a decision

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    14 years ago

    Hey lets not forget the lying wives as well. Shame! Ms prefers to be told the truth that way I feel you! I can tell it's a serious issue for alot of folk tho. I have never cheated. I break off before i cheat! But for alot of people we have met it seems to be a lifestyle. We choose to satisfy our desires together and have chosen to swing both ways too. And we do prefer married couples, occassionally tho we find these horny as all hell people.

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    14 years ago

    He couldn't have been looking for me too hard. I worked at the club five or six nights a week. I was easy to find. Never did see or hear from him though.

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    14 years ago

    Yeah met a guy at the pub   He said come home with me baby   I thought it was a good idea at the time But then his girlfriend came home       I jumped up and grabbed my clothes and went out the back door.   The guy was bonking me and said shit! as the car came up the driveway, its my girlfriend!   I am under him going wtF! up and bolted for it.   She never did twig, she was just home on a break from work.   I never talked to him again, keep well away It was a small town and I had just arrived, and became an almost home wrecker without realising it.   Its one of a are you with HBF moments

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