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It's almost entirely a complete waste of time...

February 21 2015

... Bothering to take time to write 'decent' messages. It's one of the more significant fallacies drifting around the forums, one of the more common pieces of advice given here to guys, looking to get in contact with women here, and I think it's about time we put that little furphy to rest. The simple fact of the matter is, the site is pretty much entirely visual. Speaking from a hetero single male perspective here - women, despite comments made here, and flowery comments often made in profiles - are not particularly interested in how sexy the mind is or whatever crap they try to sell themselves. People look at your profile and make a decision based upon the images they see. Well, not most men, I'd assume - most men will take the basic stance of: "Does it have a vagina? If so, then I'm in". No-one cares about the 'all-important' GSOH. No one is interested in anything, beyond how you look. Again, this is totally fine, I'm just looking to address comments to the contrary. The real advice, single guys, is not to bother with taking time on messages. Don't really bother to read the profile. None of that really matters. Women are interested - completely understandably so - in the *images* they can see in your profile. You can be as polite, respectful, engaging and/or interesting as you like, but if you are not pushing that visual button from the get-go, I'm afraid you are not getting anywhere. Do I sound bitter? Well, I am a little, I admit. In over 2 months, I've received a single reply. I mean, it's not like I spam out a million messages, but I have sent a bunch - so, even still, that's a little telling. That'll get anyone down. I get that I'm not the prettiest dude in the world, and women not being interested in my particular flavour is totally fine - but its the notion that if you're able to string together a sentence and engage with the actual person and say at least something interesting that is a significant factor in women taking an interest in you is what I'd like to address. Because it's not true. It's not relevant. It's absolutely meaningless. Nothing any guy here can say is remotely as important, or effective as having a hot picture. So guys, the advice to you here, is save the words, spare yourself the reading. Just put up a sexy photo, and don't be completely awful/stupid/offensive - that's it. The medium is entirely visual. It's ALL that matters.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Whilst I think I understand your perspective, I disagree with it almost entirely. Pretty pictures won't get you very far with me. Yes this site can be very visually-oriented but exactly how far will a 6 pack get you once you've finished discussing your lifting routine with me??? Flirty x - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I saw your pic pop up on a different forum earlier today and I had a read of your profile. I must say, no matter what you wrote to me, it wouldn't matter. I think bitter is understatement and you're letting yourself down more than anyone else. My 2cts. p.s. "Nothing any guy here can say is remotely as important, or effective as having a hot picture." Bullshit.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    That was the Ms. talking.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    That was the Ms. talking.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    It's the nature of the game dude - whinging about it just makes you look bitter. You're not swamped with hotties because of your profile wording. It's supposed to be fun pal - make it so!!!! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Sweetie to be blunt. Its fucking terrible. Maybe you had a better one before and wrote that one out of frustration. You would have been better having your dismay at lack of female response as you have in this post juxtapositioned by a charming and witty profile. Your attractive and show a bit of character in your photos. If you had something written better I would have been interested. But as it stands. Looks are not enough.

  • Smilingwithfun

    Smilingwithfun

    11 years ago

    The spoken or written word is so powerful, yet you use it too lament rather than converse.

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    11 years ago

    Once I read your profile you lost me. I actually don't mind your look, but your attitude is piss poor, plus I don't like whiny men or men who assume all women are the same......💋

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    You are messaging the wrong women...you say on your profile that you are looking for women....that's it.Why not be a bit specific... Or don't you care ,as long as you meet a vagina.it may not be what you intend but it is what it appears to be...maybe women reading that don't feel special xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Stop wasting your time and put some hot pics up then! It ain't rocket science. Apparently. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    to what the others have to say innerwest123. I looked at your photosand they're "not bad". All you need now is to convince a woman to meet you. But how can you do that when you are putting out "negative" vibes ? I like the way you write. Good grammar and full sentences. Go back and redo your Profile and give it another go. Amy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    What a shame you FEEL like that.. and a VERY VERY shame you actually made it PUBLIC.. I get replies to well over 50% of the messages I send out.. An "Over-the-hill" archaic paleolithic ex hippie/biker/cowboy/drunk pothead who is waaay too hairy, way too set in his ways, way too narrowminded, missing too many teeth, and missing a few marbles - with hair growing out of his ears, and nose... the palms of his hands AND the tops of his feet..NOW.. WHY_THE_FCK.. do YOU think I score MORE replies then you from the ladies, the gentlemen AND those who tell me they are NEITHER??I reckon it MIGHT be because I am NOT a sooky bitch, who EXPECTS people to grovel in my space.. Maaaate..... Honestly... do you REGRET posting this post...??????FFS.. fess up man.. jump on here now.. admit you were as wasted as fck.. and feeling VERY depressed when you wrote this... (Maybe even admit you had missed some mediction) Beg forgiveness from the gorgeous women you insulted AND the solid fellas and champions who are scratching their heads wondering WTF happened to REAL malehood in this up and coming generation..."Just saying mate..."APPARENTLY I have a knack for "Just Saying..."

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Lovinit28' Once I read your profile you lost me. I actually don't mind your look, but your attitude is piss poor, plus I don't like whiny men or men who assume all women are the same......💋 Innerwest, I actually really like your look, but it's what you write that isn't for me. Your OP really just makes me want to tell you two things here: 1. You're wrong 2. Get over yourself. I met you and you were absolutely lovely. Sadly that's not really coming across on the forums at the moment I think. Maybe time to step away? Good luck regardless.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Innerwest..... bromo-sapien..... come in tight and give me your ear.... and read the following without fear, judgement... or an ego. You are falling into the ego-led trap of thinking that its all about how you look.And I suspect you do that outside of RHP... possibly because it appears to me from your writings that your self esteem is considerably less than rock-solid. I see it this way....... yes, there are always better looking people than you..... and the "odds" favour the ladies in here, however, theres one vital thing you're losing track of in your current bitter state of mind. What one woman craves....... another can't stand. You have preferences ..... so it'd be pretty arrogant and deluded to think that women don't have their own preferences too. I have no idea what you think a "decent" message to be, but, clearly.... its just not engaging, so I looked to your profile for clues. Your first paragraph leads the reader in with a solid, breathless whinge.The next paragraph contradicts the first, because a fun, educated, intelligent, interesting and adventurous person just won't write paragraph 1.Paragraph 3 sets out to seal the self- sabotage, by confirming why you don't think you're worth anyones time to talk to, let alone meet. So really....... how can you expect people to respond positively to you, when you clearly aren't positive about yourself?! Maaaaaaaaate...... right up there in the top-5 least attractive things a man can do from a womans point of view...... is whiney, whingey men. You don't like that in a woman, I hope. Another of the top-5 is acting like this site owes you a sex life, and that this is the only place you feel you have a chance of finding one. You say you have no expectant mentality..... but, your actions contradict this. Looking at the photos.... buggered if I know why you'd choose one drinking juice, half covering your face and wearing a beanie as your primary pic. As a "message" it says... "Im a sloth". Thats all Im going to say as its less about the pics than the words than you think. Yes... that lays your bones bare... but I feel you NEED that shake up to realise.... shits gotta change bro fo! Now.... you may recall we've had this conversation some time ago already, and Im very happy to talk to you again via PM and assist you off the forums....... but I won't if you're not going to take the advice onboard this time. As for the comment about "decent" messages being a waste of time.... I say..... decent is a ridiculous word.Focus on COMPELLING.... I feel I earn my replies... by sending messages that compel someone to reply in a positive way. If your version of a "decent" message doesn't compel someone to reply..... why contine to send the same style of ineffective message?! It is illogical to send the same style of message, expecting a different result. PM me if you are ready to help yourself. DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    mate, it can be frustrating for all of us, this website. But to vent that in your public profile is going too far. Of course, catalogue shopping is an inevitable feature of this life style, but the profile sends out the vibe which is most important. Try again when the bitterness subsides maybe - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    but any profile that has a description asking if "my bearded head isn't immediately vomit-inducing to you, go ahead and get back to me and get talking, I am absolutely certain you'll have a great time!" is kinda vomit-inducing! Funny about that! LG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    switch your display pic to one of your others, they're better, and less "I'm just waiting to get up and rob this cafe" (Not that I'm one to give suggestions, my profile sucks - though I just hang out on the forums, not searching n messaging)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    This is why you are not allowed to play with the humans They cry

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I just compiled the most amazing message... but.. the "Recipient" has locked her/his mailbox

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I'm new to the site,saw this thread and decided to comment because I haven't had a single message either,but I understand it.im not ripped,not overweight by any stretch of the imagination but visuals do play their part.working the long hours and days of fifo work leaves little energy/time for working out.im well educated and witty etc but I appreciate that this site is dedicated primarily to finding people to have sex with and the women here have the right to be choosy.i mean,if I could I'd like to jump in bed with a swimsuit model too but I accept its not going to happen.ive chosen to be as honest as I can be with my profile but again if I was a woman I'd go for the the guy with hot bod over me(pic in my new hoodie!)I don't feel deflated by the lack of messages,it's a lottery thing and I'm confident in myself and like who i am...hang in there mate

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I have actually received one message...from cavey lol!!!thanks mate

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Maybe you can help this fella. Yes you are a cave man but yiur also a funny fucker and you like women and not only because they have a juicy pink bit. I do get what he is saying, He has some points as any unattractive guy on here might be reading this nodding his head. too the Op. I know other women might think your weak and whine, I dint I think it takes a lot of frustrating and disappointment for a person to want to vent. it also takes courage, I would not dismiss any man for being hoest about how he really feels. we women whine all the bloody time about shit line this. Just because your a guy does not negate what you say ir feel. If you were in the west I would make you a cuppa and we could sit at my kitchen table and have a chat. Your more than this post. don't let people shut you down for expressing your feelings. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I am not saying you are unattractive, your attractive but if you look around there us prime rump on special every day here. And as I am a superficial bitch. My prime can be as thick as a plank for all I care. So messages penned from Will Shakespare would not work unless he had a six pack a big cock and wants to eat my peach. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I think some of the things you've said are true, getting a reply is really really really damn hard here, but over the course of 3 months I've paid, i probably had a reply rate of about 10%! Everyone is in a different stage of their life, some want to take it slow, other a horny right now and want you to come over!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Speaking for myself only, it would not matter how articulate, funny, intelligent or entertaining a first message was to me, if I dont see something in a guys photos that is appealing or attractive,to me, I have no desire to get to know you better. Yes Visual attraction is first cab off the rank for me.The same as it would be if I was at a club,if I liked what you look like, I would then want to know more about you. But.... Next comes the conversation that holds the initial attraction there.Thats when the personality comes into play. And after a message or 2 back and forth, its pretty easy to work out if the physical attraction is enough. And no, it never is, if we then dont connect through conversation. Again... Its exactly how it would be for me if I met someone in a club.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Speaking for myself only, it would not matter how articulate, funny, intelligent or entertaining a first message was to me, if I dont see something in a guys photos that is appealing or attractive,to me, I have no desire to get to know you better. Yes Visual attraction is first cab off the rank for me.The same as it would be if I was at a club,if I liked what you look like, I would then want to know more about you. But.... Next comes the conversation that holds the initial attraction there.Thats when the personality comes into play. And after a message or 2 back and forth, its pretty easy to work out if the physical attraction is enough. And no, it never is, if we then dont connect through conversation. Again... Its exactly how it would be for me if I met someone in a club.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    stating that if you want to get laid tonight...."Go to the local hotel, an let alcohol do the foreplay for you" I do NOT mean.. "Go to the hotel and take advantage of a drunk person..." Fellas.. we are outnumbered.. outgunned.. outeverythinged here... IF you come across as "Average", you will only ever get "Average"AND "Average" for a male on sites LIKE this... probably LESS then a fella would wish for... LOTS so.. Maybe fellas THINK that Women on here are sex starved and desperate... That makes NO sence at all... IF they were that.... they would simply drive to the local pub I was telling you all about.. lean out the window and whistle.... Big girls, little girls, weird-taste girls.... ALL girls would do MUCH better there themselves then on here....So.. CONTRARY to misunderstood thoughts.. the Women on here are (in MY view) much more discerning then MANY of those on the street...."ThePeach" and "Hobbes" "You guys ROCK!!!"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    For double dipping

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    *grins* "Double dip" ALL you like young lady :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I'm with Willow... I need to see something in a guy's picture that attracts and appeals. I can't explain what it is that I find attractive because it varies from person to person... I don't have a specific 'type'. It could be as simple as a cheeky smile, along with what's written in the message to me. Very rarely is it the six pack and chiselled features that make me respond positively. OP, I looked at your pics before I looked at your profile. And based purely on those, I found you attractive and would have responded positively to you even though you're way out of my preferred age range. But then I read your profile... instant turn off. Sorry. Much love, Elle xx PS:Hobbes 2015, your hoodie pic and profile do it for me :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    First of all: hell yeah clickbait, am I right, moderators? For those responding negatively, well to that I say: methinks she doth protest too much. I'm also aware that due to the nature of the post, I have invited criticism of my profile; my whingey, bitchy profile: I'm fine with that. To that one dude that suggested I beg for forgiveness: Jesus, dude - have some self respect. I may say something that makes me look like a fucking douche, but I say what I think, and I'll own that. You should not look to others so much for validation. Also, despite my whingey tone, I'm doing fine, I also think I'm an okay-looking guy: not amazing looking, but not terrible; I have my angles. I'm honestly just providing an objective view of the site that I feel is sugar-coated over to a really misleading degree. The nature of the site is almost entirely visual.any of you here on the forum may disagree. The reality is, you are most likely in the vast minority. The reality here, in Sydney at least, is that beyond your photo, almost everything else is irrelevant. I DONT complain about this - this is entirely understandable - but I think it's time we all stopped pretending otherwise.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    It's just a website to meet people and have some fun. I'm surprised at how seriously people seem to take this stuff. I understand that rejection can sting, but it really is first world problems. At the end of the day, everyone wants to be attracted and pics often tell a story. I will rule women out if their messages bore me or I don't like their attitude after first being attracted to their pics........but I will never rule someone in because of their messages unless Im attracted to their pics

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Here I was thinking that is was my amusing use of the English language and my flirty, witty conversation that got me laid. Now I find out it just my body the ladies are after. My ego just went up a couple of more notches which, anyone that knows me will attestify, is not a good thing.

  • sweetgem

    sweetgem

    11 years ago

    Men who: 1) put themselves down are not sexy in their mind at all because they show low self respect. 2) disrespect women by assuming that ALL women are superficial with looks and the same - are unattractive themselves! 3) instead of checking their own behaviour, especially if they have been given constructive advice to improve their chances of getting what they seek, they blame the women for their unsuccessful rate - aren't educated and intelligent! 4) whine and behave like a teenage boy when they are in their 30s are so not sexy in their mind! 5) think because this is a sex site, everybody should just be ready to get laid with just about anyone - are way less sexy to me even if their physical looks might be attractive. 6) speak for others, especially for women, are not intelligent nor respectful! Perhaps consider chatting to ThePeach and Freya in private OP as they are wise and good at helping people to see the lights out of a tunnel :-) Good luck with whichever path you opt to walk on in this RHP world. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Different tune.You have been on this site since March 2013,most of your posts have been of a similar nature. ...and yet you are still here..It's not your lack of abs,or any other physical attribute.its your bitterness that is unattractive..And If you don't like you,how the hell do you expect anyone else to...Big fat brains are attractive to many women here...yep we are not all deeply shallow...and clearly your brain is very fat..Now stop being negative about you and use your smarts ....xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    OP if that's how you feel then give the ladies what they want. You are only 32, still prime meat Make over time, get a gym membership and a push bike and buff the body up, eat as much protein as you can manage, in a month or two get rid of the beard and wardrobe... sheez who brought your threads. Find a mate's sister in the age range you are hunting for, if not available ask your best looking mate if his wife could help you out, for a good cause. (assuming you are short some women in your life for this job), give her your credit card and ask her to take you shopping for a new wardrobe, hair cut, the works. Don't forget a suit and some good sexy underwear. Let her pick them, few guys can dress them selves Now you need fake tan, baby oily, a camera and a good solid 2 hour work out. Then get someone that knows how to use a camera to take some photos in your shiny new glistening all man meat body and threads. Don't show to much, just the pecks, abbs, bum, one in your new suit and silk tie (makes you look rich) and only one of your face. Best you do a Blue Steel off in the distance deep in profound thought gaze for the face. your photographer will help you out. Rewrite your profile without a single word of negativity, just pretend you are loaded, professional, and over the dozens of ordinary women constantly beating down your door to get to your body, you want perfection hopefully as good as you. (don't use the word "hopefully") Mention how you love the gym, and you are a part time male model. (Just sign up to a modeling agency to make it true) All done, can you feel it. grrrr Then start messaging those irresistible one liners, like "Hey babe! ;)" as the content don't matter now and start getting it on... Shit that's what I would do if I was 32 and hunting bimbos.. Go get em...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Bitching and moaning makes people unattractive ;) GG♒️ - Posted from rhpmobile

  • IamMrSilly

    IamMrSilly

    11 years ago

    Down in front, I want to see! Well that played out exactly as expected. I agree with willowtree (and she has such a visually appealing thumbnail!) To get a reply you must kick a goal on all counts, age, pictures, message, preferences such as smoking, profile text, forum posts, chat room. If any of those don't appeal then you don't have a chance. Your profile growls and snarls, it should smile and welcome (or entice if you wish). The fact you are so demanding in this forum post alone is probably not going to help either. Imagine if you started a conversation in a club with someone the same way your profile reads.

  • Cheekyarses

    Cheekyarses

    11 years ago

    Wow ~ this is why I love rhp forums to other social network sites.. These forums speak the truth n just love everyone's own distinct personality - especially cavey - you rock my friend x - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    You're very good with words my man, but you need to pimp your profile. Being satirical about accepting the feeling of being unattractive in a generation of aesthetics only works verbally because you're a funny guy. Your profile is description I'm sure is meant to come out as funny, but there's no context online. Sell yourself and speak from the heart. And don't attack women here. I'm sure if you copped 1000+ messages a day you wouldn't be able to write to them either. So don't think they all just look at your picture and that's it. I had to dig around profiles for 2 years before I got a flirt from Samantha. So stay in there, make it worth your money. Photo wise, don't take selfies in the bathroom, take them somewhere nice or at a concert or the zoo. I do like the bearded oj drinking photo it adds depth. Chicks dig a beard, especially in the inner west. It shows your inner hipster side with a penchant for finding good breakfast venues And if you're not part of generation gym, save the nudie pics in bed for album 2 Make some changes, see how you go. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    All have offered up advise and opinions that differ that's the "real beauty" within this site.I't can be raw, and may cut to the bone - but if nothing else- honest. an older gentleman with a life time of experience once said and has stayed with me.."with a good pair of shoes and a bottle of wine you will see the world my friend"kind of rings true and whatever else is a lovely bonus.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    This is de ja vu..... Your very first post on here was the same..."why can't I get a fucking response??" I believe it was called.... You justified that rant as "you shouldn't drink and post".... Then there were a myriad of "dating for single guys 101" threads you released....which I was rather amused about.... And now the cycle has turned a full circle.... So I ask....where's your advice now?? Why not review your own advice to others?? May help with that foot in mouth you seem to be suffering from again... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    11 years ago

    Still real life here. Did someone tell you it was going to be easy? Just because it's rhp doesn't mean it's going to be laid out for you. Maybe you are here because you had no luck out there. And maybe no luck here because we'll your not representing well. But just because you having no luck, don't tell the other gents to throw the towel. It's hard for most guys, they don't need to hear more negatives when they are trying their best. So all you other guys. Chin up. Move on, nothing to see here. Just keep on doing the best you can do. Someone must be getting a root......

  • jandv

    jandv

    11 years ago

    How many men profiles, women and couple profiles there are? I imagine the male profiles would be HUGE compared to single ladies?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    you look like a member of Isis....just sayin 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    It aint me getting a root. Im too bloody busy on the forums now!! God forbid if I miss something on here. Is there are group called forums annon I could sign up for?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    "The real advice, single guys, is not to bother with taking time on messages. Don't really bother to read the profile. None of that really matters. Women are interested - completely understandably so - in the *images* they can see in your profile. You can be as polite, respectful, engaging and/or interesting as you like, but if you are not pushing that visual button from the get-go, I'm afraid you are not getting anywhere." yes visuals are a part of it! BUT it is not all about the visuals - for me at least . I prefer BRAINS over hunky looks...If someone's profile is nothing else but a "dick photos" I make the following conclusions 1, He has got dick - so what? 2, he is very "hungry" 3, he is a male escort (nothing wrong with that BUT not looking for one right now) If his profile is nothing else but his morning erection I come to the same conclusion If his profile has some witty description (such as yours) I will conclude "hmmm he has got some brains - interesting let's read one" If his profile has face photos which look appealing on top if all - I will DEFINATELY respond to the flirt or message, might even send one one my own This might be difference between the male and female brain - female brain prefers chemistry, trust, connection - the male brain -sometimes- does only look for the simple question "does it have a vagina yes or no"...If I just want a dick I grab a toy.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    It's always someone who has messaged me some of the crappiest messages, that makes a post like this....ALWAYS!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    It is real life in here. Its our own individual real lives. Just more magnified and up front about the physical. So, O.P, when you go out to a club or pub with the hope of meeting someone and piicking up,does it happen in every instance? No, same as here. Do you go out and check out potential singles,go up to them and give your best pick up line, and get a knock back? Yes, same as here. Tis our real life where ever we chose to hunt.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Someone mentioned that I should not be 'attacking women' with my comments here. It was intended as friendly advice and that's how I took it, but I'd like to make clear that in NO WAY are my comments here an attack on anyone - the intention of the post is to call out the fact, as I see it, that the site is superficiality: the images people see, not the words they use or whatever people say here and on their profiles. Also that this, like all statements, is not intended to mean literally every person - I know that there are some people here who are genuinely interested in the things people say and they find 'brains' sexy (or whatever): I know that because I have been fortunate enough to meet some people like that one here. However, by and large, the general rule of this site is: your pictures are what matter most, by a long, long way. And that's totally fine, I just wanted to jump on the forum and call a spade a spade, and the majority are kidding themselves if they think otherwise. Anyway, boo hoo woe is me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'willowtree' It is real life in here. Its our own individual real lives. Just more magnified and up front about the physical. So, O.P, when you go out to a club or pub with the hope of meeting someone and piicking up,does it happen in every instance? No, same as here. Do you go out and check out potential singles,go up to them and give your best pick up line, and get a knock back? Yes, same as here. Tis our real life where ever we chose to hunt. No.... but I reckon if they could walk up to a woman with their dick in their hand, and go into a long spiel about how they LOOOVE to give pleasure and won't stop etc etc and can go all night.... a lot would. Innerwest.... after all the positive which other members have gone to the effort of writing,... specifically to benefit you.... your latest reply to me seems like... scrambling and denial. My offer to help is genuine....... but Im certain now you won't take it. So I wish you well. DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'hobbes2015' I have actually received one message...from cavey lol!!!thanks mate but i am a guest so its says, hi now you have two

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    You didn't know what you had when you had it I'm afraid. I don't remember you being this bitter. What a shame. C'est la vie ...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    There is...Fora Tragiques R Us .its called 😘xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Blindman67' OP if that's how you feel then give the ladies what they want. You are only 32, still prime meat Make over time, get a gym membership and a push bike and buff the body up, eat as much protein as you can manage, in a month or two get rid of the beard and wardrobe... sheez who brought your threads. Find a mate's sister in the age range you are hunting for, if not available ask your best looking mate if his wife could help you out, for a good cause. (assuming you are short some women in your life for this job), give her your credit card and ask her to take you shopping for a new wardrobe, hair cut, the works. Don't forget a suit and some good sexy underwear. Let her pick them, few guys can dress them selves Now you need fake tan, baby oily, a camera and a good solid 2 hour work out. Then get someone that knows how to use a camera to take some photos in your shiny new glistening all man meat body and threads. Don't show to much, just the pecks, abbs, bum, one in your new suit and silk tie (makes you look rich) and only one of your face. Best you do a Blue Steel off in the distance deep in profound thought gaze for the face. your photographer will help you out. Rewrite your profile without a single word of negativity, just pretend you are loaded, professional, and over the dozens of ordinary women constantly beating down your door to get to your body, you want perfection hopefully as good as you. (don't use the word "hopefully") Mention how you love the gym, and you are a part time male model. (Just sign up to a modeling agency to make it true) All done, can you feel it. grrrr Then start messaging those irresistible one liners, like "Hey babe! ;)" as the content don't matter now and start getting it on... Shit that's what I would do if I was 32 and hunting bimbos.. Go get em... for a profile on RHP....Bimbo Hunter.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'willowtree' It aint me getting a root. Im too bloody busy on the forums now!! God forbid if I miss something on here. Is there are group called forums annon I could sign up for? well after going off sex. I decided to go get me sum. What a mistake. Walked in door, bedroom on left, got throw in there and my skirt lifted my panties ripped down, and a uncovered cock coming my way. I hit him on the chest and pushed him off grabbed my gear and bolted. so I am NOT getting a root. And now I know why my profile is hostile, bit like the op at the moment. The foreplay post, well there ya go, that was mine today. I think it was ten seconds. From knock on door to laying rubber in the drive way of this guys house. No matter what you have on your profile Op, the pretty pictures, the talk the phone calls, in the end its how you treat others online and off that matters. and most of all its how you respect a woman, and not see her as some free hooker that is on here because we cant find better offline. what Cavey said, we are on here as we do not want to go down the pub and wade through the drunks at the bar.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'sir_stir' you look like a member of Isis....just sayin 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile and that from "Chopper" just sayin

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Read Leon's post..The OP knows that his profile pic will appeal to a certain demographic...Hipsters xxFreys

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    And ironic that the ones that do that, usually have in their profile" i love hours of foreplay" yep!! Foreplay to them simply means putting on a rubber. Sad but true

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Will sign up and go to my first meeting... As soon as I can get away from the forums. Haha

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'willowtree' And ironic that the ones that do that, usually have in their profile" i love hours of foreplay" yep!! Foreplay to them simply means putting on a rubber. Sad but true even want to put the rubber on... I shake my head

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Now I get that many of you here on the forum disagree with my post, and have taken the bitterness bit i added and run with it - which is fine, totally up to you, but it is missing my point (I admitted to feeling a little bitter because it's the adult thing to do), but I really don't think it's necessary to have a go at me personally. Play the ball, not the man, please.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I actually dont think OP is being negative or putting himself down nor whinging. I think he observed the workings of this site, and figured it out how it REALLY works. In other words, he saw the reality of it. And mind you. He is right in some ways. Tho, my intellectual wit and humour does win.. but.... ~Sparty~

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Yes Im going through a negative and cynical patch at the moment on here. So perhaps I better pop back to secret womens business forums for my anti male preaching,and stay positive on this thread and not bag the opposite sex out as much. Negative breeds negative they say.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    OP, I like your profile pic but you should really put down the Kool-Aid.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' OP, I like your profile pic but you should really put down the Kool-Aid. But pensive, window-gazing juice-drinking is my whole shtick!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I don't think he is channeling Ken 😊xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    When trying to hookup (oops, lost half of the women already) it is important to realise that first impression counts. You might be the World Champion of Cunnilingus (someone please post where do they hold the qualifying rounds) BUT - if you are an overweight man outside of the age group desired by the females that you are aiming at it is TOUGH. As far as I go I'm neither of those so I'm doing OK, but not getting messages either (had been paying member but decided not to pay for hookups anymore - let's leave that for another topic). Bottomline is - women here are scarce. And then you get the story such as the one in this thread - they come across a maniac that does not even consider safe sex and they GO WITH THEM - that kind of points to the argument of the OP, women must put a lot of emphasis on the first impression, they do not go and discuss in depth what is going to happen when they hookup... Why? Communication is the key on all levels - why did you not discuss your liaison ahead of coming to someone's place? Do you expect candles and potpourri..? Well, reality strikes sometimes, unless you talk about it and plan it well. Might sound cynical and a bit clinical - but you would not have left out safe sex, would you?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    See the reality is this. I can string a sentence together, I can be downright charming when I want something, and god forbid I should air bitter feelings towards the opposite sex every so often to a bunch of people I haven't met, have no emotional investment in and probably never will. All of that is really a moot point in regards to your initial statement. If we're talking strictly about effort and reply rates then the simple numbers say that I've gotten at minimum 75% reply rate on all of my messages. Though that means bugger all when in just shy of ten years I've physically met a grand total of... at most two people off the site. So while I side with your position entirely, expressing such a view was in no way proactive, unless you have actually road-tested your own advice, how about shutting the fuck up and getting on with life. Because not only am I better looking than you OP, I'm younger and not sorry to say cynical but not nearly as bitter as you, though I probably have infinitely more right to be but that's hardly relevant to the topic. Rant over.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    But to a certain degree, I actually agree with you. Primarily we are all attracted to the pics and if interest is pique, one tends to click on the profile for hopefully a entertaining read and from there, decisions are made as whether one initiates contact or not That contact message can be crucial in "sealing the deal" of whether a reply will be received. This works for both sexes and so it goes So yes we are initially attracted by a tiny little thumbnail photo ( I changed my pic during the week and my inbox was flooded, I guess a booty pic will do that) but I am much more than a thumbnail. Once my arse has got one's attention, tis my profile that has to "sell me" Now I've had plenty of excellent feedback re: my profile but also plenty of negatives, which I politely tell people that I wrote the profile that suits me and represents a tiny snippet of me and if they don't like it, move along, there's another lovely lady a click away and I wish them all the best. And I'm sure you feel the same way. You have put up the photos that you believe best represent you and written your profile that you believe shows you in a positive light for prospective "dates" I do not believe you should change your profile if you believe it is who you really are and your best sell Where I believe you have come unstuck, is your forum post of today (Am I correct in remembering that you had a similar rant some time ago ?). I agree that this site is visual but by saying that us ladies are only attracted by brawn is beyond insulting. Give me sense of humour, intelligence, witty banter and substance along with respect over looks anytime. ANYTIME I would consider myself not too shabby in the looks department. Blessed genetically, and I pay attention to personal grooming and I look after my body but more importantly I make a effort to educate my mind but don't think for a moment that I didn't spend Valentines Day night by myself (dealing with a disgusting plumbing issue, another story) or many Saturday nights cause the reality is I am not everyone's choice for many reasons and its not necessarily based on how I look. We are all rejected at some point for one reason or another, suck it up and move on. Don't write a forum about it. The right people come into your life for a reason, when your open to it. If you are experiencing repeated patterns, you may need to look at what the common denominator is and change it.

  • MissBishere

    MissBishere

    11 years ago

    meh... That is all!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'innerwest123' it is missing my point What was your point? Telling all the guys that if they aren't hot sexy studs they might as well give up? All that juice has made you go sour.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    No, it doesn't seem like you're going to understand, so if you could keep your mild insults to yourself, that'd be appreciated.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Maybe for a minority, like forum regulars for example, it's *all about the mental/intellectual/emotional side of things* - maybe - but really I don't think there are too many messages one can write that are gonna be anywhere near as effective as a hot pic at getting that initial reply (where one can then display the amazing force of their personality) - it's as simple as that. You might be friggin hemingway, but if you also look like hemingway, yeah, you're shit outta luck. For the most part. That's all I mean, just in the sense of getting that initial response: that's where looks are the generally the only thing that matters. After that, yeah then maybe the more mental elements get a proper chance... I really shouldn't have added that bit about being a little bitter - i figured I'd get out ahead of the inevitble accusations and just front up with it, but it's all most have focussed on. OF FRIGGIN COURSE im exasperated with not receving a reply for 2 months - that's an entirely reasonable response - but it's not what im talking about here. I'm not bitter, sour, lonely or sad. My little dance card is pretty full, but I just had some thoughts about the site I wanted to share that provide a different point of view to the usual advice (mostly guys) get here.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I get your point op.plain and simple. Dont need to read between the lines, dissect each sentance. Or pull your profile apart.Its your experience and what you see and deal with personally. As I said earlier on, I do agree with you. I agree because its how I approach my inbox on here.I really dont give a toss about pulling your profile apart and turning it into the reason you have written this post, and making it the focus. Not irrelevant to me.Actually,I just changed my profile this week from long and detailed and quite spacific and personal.Due to some negative crap from here( not the forums)and some self assessment. Now it says little about me.Anyone reading it would think it showed no thought or effort had gone into it, because thats what I feel like at the moment. Next week is a different story, who knows. So I wish you all the best op.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'innerwest123' No, it doesn't seem like you're going to understand, so if you could keep your mild insults to yourself, that'd be appreciated. I think my responses to you weren't insulting, I even called you lovely. Also, if you're telling the truth about only person responding to your messages, we both know who that was. Yes, I think your attitude is sour and bitter. That's how I think you came across. My opinion of course, and only that. I hope it works out for you, because at the moment you seem to be your own self-fulfilling prophecy. All the best.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    you suck at writing?? That's nothing to be bitter about.... 😝😝 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    11 years ago

    You want people to treat you with respect? You were calling a fellow Op names on their thread. As Meander pointed out 2 names in the one post. Practise what you preach. You get what you give out, here and out there. You hand out insults, expect to get some back. Just like your profile. You give negatives, you'll never receive positives. Take the advice on your thread, go away and come back with a fresh approach. Good luck

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'innerwest123' Maybe for a minority, like forum regulars for example, it's *all about the mental/intellectual/emotional side of things* - maybe - but really I don't think there are too many messages one can write that are gonna be anywhere near as effective as a hot pic at getting that initial reply (where one can then display the amazing force of their personality) - it's as simple as that. You might be friggin hemingway, but if you also look like hemingway, yeah, you're shit outta luck. For the most part. That's all I mean, just in the sense of getting that initial response: that's where looks are the generally the only thing that matters. After that, yeah then maybe the more mental elements get a proper chance... I really shouldn't have added that bit about being a little bitter - i figured I'd get out ahead of the inevitble accusations and just front up with it, but it's all most have focussed on. OF FRIGGIN COURSE im exasperated with not receving a reply for 2 months - that's an entirely reasonable response - but it's not what im talking about here. I'm not bitter, sour, lonely or sad. My little dance card is pretty full, but I just had some thoughts about the site I wanted to share that provide a different point of view to the usual advice (mostly guys) get here. OP...... do YOU think you look like Hemmingway?! See also.... Do you think the photos you have deliberately chosen to represent yourself..... are the best you can offer?!Really?!? Because if you think its ALL about the photo.... you could easily make more of an effort, so really, you only have yourself to hold that complaint to. You're hating the game you love to play by virtue of just being here...... instead of improving the player. There will always people who seek to control the externals of life by controlling their body first..... and thinking, that a hot buff body will solve all the problems of a flawed personality. Brutal truth = it doesn't.So we make the most of what makes us..... us, to the very best of your advantage. And this topic..... with the perception that your entire life is somehow related to RHP failing you......well.... its done the reverse regardless of how much 'truth' you say may be in it. You're smarter than that DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' Quoting 'innerwest123' No, it doesn't seem like you're going to understand, so if you could keep your mild insults to yourself, that'd be appreciated. I think my responses to you weren't insulting, I even called you lovely. Also, if you're telling the truth about only person responding to your messages, we both know who that was. Yes, I think your attitude is sour and bitter. That's how I think you came across. My opinion of course, and only that. I hope it works out for you, because at the moment you seem to be your own self-fulfilling prophecy. All the best. ---I understand that your opinion is you think that im (in the post at least) sour and bitter - thats fine, I admit as much in the post itself - what it isnt, is necessary to point out or relevant to the point of the post, which i have gone and explained further and is something you havent responded to: youve just jumped in, said "youre sour" and left it at that. a few times now. that doesnt interest me ,it is your opinion of me, and you are most certainly entitled and totally welcome to having it, but its not, as i said, what interests me. its also not correct - the post definitely involved some venting, but i assure you, im all good. what im interested in is, okay, you (i assume) fundamentally disagree with my position that: for an initial response, anything other than a hot photo is waste of time and/or energy. Once youve gotten that response then, sure, wheel out the wordsmithery and dazzle them with your personality, but before then, the majority of the site is purely visual - for a number of reasons, not least (on the hetero male side of things) because there is a huge difference in the numbers of women to men: women have nothing but choice. I think its important for people to understand this, so that they know where they stand.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'innerwest123' First of all: hell yeah clickbait, am I right, moderators? For those responding negatively, well to that I say: methinks she doth protest too much. I'm also aware that due to the nature of the post, I have invited criticism of my profile; my whingey, bitchy profile: I'm fine with that. To that one dude that suggested I beg for forgiveness: Jesus, dude - have some self respect. I may say something that makes me look like a fucking douche, but I say what I think, and I'll own that. You should not look to others so much for validation. Also, despite my whingey tone, I'm doing fine, I also think I'm an okay-looking guy: not amazing looking, but not terrible; I have my angles. I'm honestly just providing an objective view of the site that I feel is sugar-coated over to a really misleading degree. The nature of the site is almost entirely visual.any of you here on the forum may disagree. The reality is, you are most likely in the vast minority. The reality here, in Sydney at least, is that beyond your photo, almost everything else is irrelevant. I DONT complain about this - this is entirely understandable - but I think it's time we all stopped pretending otherwise. I find responses on here so idealistic sometimes. Yes, looks do matter mostly to us women but in saying that, you guys are not picky enough, most would fuck anything with a vagina, and not very well at that. I get so sick of reading how wonderful everyone's sex lives are on here and I get a lot of sex but most of it is just plain shit! I know for a fact that it isn't just me this is happening to. I think those problems go hand in hand. If I am going to have a shit shag, then I at least want a bit of eye candy to go with it. I would be more willing to give people a go if the standards of sex were better but when you get to a point that almost every guy you fuck doesn't give a shit about putting in an effort, they why should we care about your feelings? And yes, I have screwed guys I am attracted to and not so attracted to, the result is the same so I might as well screw someone who looks nice on me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'bosch_sparks' When trying to hookup (oops, lost half of the women already) it is important to realise that first impression counts. You might be the World Champion of Cunnilingus (someone please post where do they hold the qualifying rounds) BUT - if you are an overweight man outside of the age group desired by the females that you are aiming at it is TOUGH. As far as I go I'm neither of those so I'm doing OK, but not getting messages either (had been paying member but decided not to pay for hookups anymore - let's leave that for another topic). Bottomline is - women here are scarce. And then you get the story such as the one in this thread - they come across a maniac that does not even consider safe sex and they GO WITH THEM - that kind of points to the argument of the OP, women must put a lot of emphasis on the first impression, they do not go and discuss in depth what is going to happen when they hookup... Why? Communication is the key on all levels - why did you not discuss your liaison ahead of coming to someone's place? Do you expect candles and potpourri..? Well, reality strikes sometimes, unless you talk about it and plan it well. Might sound cynical and a bit clinical - but you would not have left out safe sex, would you? most of the chats I have had are about the sex and guys just tell me how wonderful they are and how much they are going to satisfy me and they can go for hours and....and....and.....then the bad sex happens. All planning aside then I get 5 minutes of 'fun' as you like to call it. Maybe you guys should actually be upfront about what you want but you wouldn't get laid if you did that either if you were explaining what you were really planning. Does that not tell you anything? Lift your game guys and you might have more success in general as men despite your looks instead of filling women's heads full of shit.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'willowtree' Yes Im going through a negative and cynical patch at the moment on here. So perhaps I better pop back to secret womens business forums for my anti male preaching,and stay positive on this thread and not bag the opposite sex out as much. Negative breeds negative they say. You right, a few shit heads spoil it for all the guys trying their best on here. It just makes me feel like I never want to have sex again. except with my trusty right hand. I should give my hand a name, as i am sick of calling out my own name when I cum. and opback on topic yes , all humans are visual creatures, it is in our survival DNA. We look and make an assessment in about ten seconds. Its a oh boy that looks yummy, however its marketing that can make something look good. I think your pictures are fine, I like your profile picture. But the others you just are not the type, I go for, but I have also been known to be seduced by some guys who are not lookers at all. Some with beer guts and shaggy beards but they were engaging, just funny guys who kept on talking to me and Not about sex all the time. When I saw Caveys pictures I thought, he was not the type of guy i would ever want to sleep with. But he was funny on the forums and just an interesting man. When I met him I thought wow, he has something, and it was confidence. It was me that got a pussy twinge and it was him that put me back in my box and said no to me. So there ya go, its not always the six pack hotties that you may think get all the attention. Its the interesting smart ones that get the girls to drop their draws. Now Cavy is a good example. He is not your poster boy, but he is as sexy as fuck. Funny as fuck, charming as fuck and also intuitive when it comes to women. Why because he listens, he watches and he sees each woman as in individual. You may go years on RHP and never get a root, but you may learn a hell of a lot by not getting that root on line, but applying what you learn here to offline. the art of seduction is a gift to be learned and applied in reality land.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'bosch_sparks' When trying to hookup (oops, lost half of the women already) it is important to realise that first impression counts. You might be the World Champion of Cunnilingus (someone please post where do they hold the qualifying rounds) BUT - if you are an overweight man outside of the age group desired by the females that you are aiming at it is TOUGH. As far as I go I'm neither of those so I'm doing OK, but not getting messages either (had been paying member but decided not to pay for hookups anymore - let's leave that for another topic). Bottomline is - women here are scarce. And then you get the story such as the one in this thread - they come across a maniac that does not even consider safe sex and they GO WITH THEM - that kind of points to the argument of the OP, women must put a lot of emphasis on the first impression, they do not go and discuss in depth what is going to happen when they hookup... Why? Communication is the key on all levels - why did you not discuss your liaison ahead of coming to someone's place? Do you expect candles and potpourri..? Well, reality strikes sometimes, unless you talk about it and plan it well. Might sound cynical and a bit clinical - but you would not have left out safe sex, would you? I did discuss this, I had actually met the guy six months ago and yes I finally decided to do the deed with him. He met me before but not had sex. I rang before I left and said do you have condoms? he said I think so but will have to take a look, I said i have some as well. let me tell you something you will NOT , get as your a guy. Women on here take a risk every bloody time they meet a stranger, no matter how charming and sweet and no matter the communication. that's why they call it Date Rape. You think your out with mr nice charming guy, till you are in his house or even yours. so what do we do then, what is your solution? Its a leap of faith to trust someone including those you know , including men you are in a relationship with. Including your husband. You make it sound like I deserved what I got. that is why I have never reported a sexual assault over my years, because i know darn well what man like you would say. Sluts ask for it right?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'ralf74' Quoting 'innerwest123' First of all: hell yeah clickbait, am I right, moderators? For those responding negatively, well to that I say: methinks she doth protest too much. I'm also aware that due to the nature of the post, I have invited criticism of my profile; my whingey, bitchy profile: I'm fine with that. To that one dude that suggested I beg for forgiveness: Jesus, dude - have some self respect. I may say something that makes me look like a fucking douche, but I say what I think, and I'll own that. You should not look to others so much for validation. Also, despite my whingey tone, I'm doing fine, I also think I'm an okay-looking guy: not amazing looking, but not terrible; I have my angles. I'm honestly just providing an objective view of the site that I feel is sugar-coated over to a really misleading degree. The nature of the site is almost entirely visual.any of you here on the forum may disagree. The reality is, you are most likely in the vast minority. The reality here, in Sydney at least, is that beyond your photo, almost everything else is irrelevant. I DONT complain about this - this is entirely understandable - but I think it's time we all stopped pretending otherwise. I find responses on here so idealistic sometimes. Yes, looks do matter mostly to us women but in saying that, you guys are not picky enough, most would fuck anything with a vagina, and not very well at that. I get so sick of reading how wonderful everyone's sex lives are on here and I get a lot of sex but most of it is just plain shit! I know for a fact that it isn't just me this is happening to. I think those problems go hand in hand. If I am going to have a shit shag, then I at least want a bit of eye candy to go with it. I would be more willing to give people a go if the standards of sex were better but when you get to a point that almost every guy you fuck doesn't give a shit about putting in an effort, they why should we care about your feelings? And yes, I have screwed guys I am attracted to and not so attracted to, the result is the same so I might as well screw someone who looks nice on me. your raw honestyand OP sorry i took your topic off course. I apologies for that.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Because ALL women are here for exactly the same reason. ALL women have exactly the same likes and dislikes. ALL women will ignore the profile and skip over messages because ALL women base their decision solely on a profile photo.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    in this forum thread around page 3 (I know, well done for hanging in there Jean). While I agree with all the relatively obvious "Hey stop being a whiny sook" suggestions, I was amused that at least two or three times I read "I really like your look". Sorry is the bearded dude in a beanie drinking a juice a 'look'? What other looks are there that I may have missed? I know the t-shirt tucked into tracksuit pants is one of my favourites at the moment. What look has impressed you recently?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'ralf74' I find responses on here so idealistic sometimes. Yes, looks do matter mostly to us women but in saying that, you guys are not picky enough, most would fuck anything with a vagina, and not very well at that. I get so sick of reading how wonderful everyone's sex lives are on here and I get a lot of sex but most of it is just plain shit! I know for a fact that it isn't just me this is happening to. I think those problems go hand in hand. If I am going to have a shit shag, then I at least want a bit of eye candy to go with it. I would be more willing to give people a go if the standards of sex were better but when you get to a point that almost every guy you fuck doesn't give a shit about putting in an effort, they why should we care about your feelings? And yes, I have screwed guys I am attracted to and not so attracted to, the result is the same so I might as well screw someone who looks nice on me. From the male point of view I have to totally agree with you on this. The vast majority of guys have no clue how to fuck. They know how to please them selves and that is part of the problem. I say this because I have seen so many men play with other women in the swinging scene, both from a spectators view to a participant, partial and full involvement, both straight and Bi. I also have had a lot of guys, both bi and gay, and some unsure???? I will add to this that its not because they do not understand the female sexual being, if this was true then they should be able to please guys, right?, but they can't. It to me seems to be that sex is only a means to reach an orgasm and nothing more, and that another person just makes for a, maybe better, quicker, or just something to hold the ego up. They put in as much care into the other as they put into their hand when having a wank. Finding a guy that is good in bed is rare ( maybe more so for me as there are not as many bi guys available ) and I will put that at less than one in ten guys know how to fuck or I prefer the term make love. I have learnt how to spot the dud root, but it took time and is not yet perfect as I still on occasion find my self with someone that does not know what it means to give while having sex. Many women have also learnt how to spot the men that are not good in bed, or some will attempt to find out during dialog exchange. There are women that are not good as well, but in the female case this is the exception rather than the rule. So for the endless pile of threads by men asking why they are not getting what they want. Ask your self, how often do you have sex without the over riding need to blow your load, how often do you have sex when you are not in the mood but only to please her, how often do you have a sex session that lasts for more than an hour. If you can not say often to all these questions then you are a dud root, and experienced women can pick that up. Guys you should learn how to fuck, when you do you will become a lot more sexy and attractive to women and will find getting to meet ladies from sites like this a lot easier.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Jean_Girard' What look has impressed you recently? a perfectly shaped male bum! :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'innerwest123'youve just jumped in, said "youre sour" and left it at that. a few times now. Quoting 'Meander' Innerwest, I actually really like your look, but it's what you write that isn't for me. Your OP really just makes me want to tell you two things here: 1. You're wrong 2. Get over yourself. I met you and you were absolutely lovely. Sadly that's not really coming across on the forums at the moment I think. Maybe time to step away? Good luck regardless. Time for me to step away now. Good luck.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'innerwest123' Maybe for a minority, like forum regulars for example, it's *all about the mental/intellectual/emotional side of things* - maybe - but really I don't think there are too many messages one can write that are gonna be anywhere near as effective as a hot pic at getting that initial reply (where one can then display the amazing force of their personality) - it's as simple as that. You might be friggin hemingway, but if you also look like hemingway, yeah, you're shit outta luck. For the most part. That's all I mean, just in the sense of getting that initial response: that's where looks are the generally the only thing that matters. After that, yeah then maybe the more mental elements get a proper chance... (this forum is too much hassle to go back through to find my post and see if I'm repeating myself) but I do agree with you - while everyone will have little anecdotes about the guy who scores despite a face like a smashed crab, en masse "Look good, don't be offensive" is your best ticket to getting into an actual conversation where you can develop some rapport with the person and lead somewhere (even if it is only a booty call). I don't see why that would be controversial at all - maybe the way it came across in your original post? maybe its also a holdover from similar threads and people just jumped into the standard reply to this kind of topic. Forum regulars are different bunch, cause so many already have some degree of rapport built up just by being familiar faces (or tits or arses), its a slight leg up over going in on a 'cold call' as it were.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Out of curiosity, would you send a message or respond with interest to a woman you weren't attracted to at all, but they have a "great personality" on their profile?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'SoSoPretty' Out of curiosity, would you send a message or respond with interest to a woman you weren't attracted to at all, but they have a "great personality" on their profile? --- Honestly, no - i think that physical attraction is of course key - the first bite is with the eye, and all. Its the personality that then determines if you progress past a quick chat or first meet...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'innerwest123' Quoting 'SoSoPretty' Out of curiosity, would you send a message or respond with interest to a woman you weren't attracted to at all, but they have a "great personality" on their profile? --- Honestly, no - i think that physical attraction is of course key - the first bite is with the eye, and all. Its the personality that then determines if you progress past a quick chat or first meet... That is very sad for you as it significantly limits your potencial partners and if you are looking for personality that is the same as yours it will make it even harder as they will judge you on your look first. You only get one chance and if its a bad hair day, or scruffy Sunday you miss out. Though personalty can have bad days, personalty takes at least some time to show and so there is time for the good bits to shine through. Nor does personality fade, sag, or age. I know it is kind of pointless trying to convince you to look first at personality, but at least consider it as you will miss out on so much with that attitude I am afraid to say. I have met people that I did not at first consider attractive but they have wonderful personality, now when I look at them I truely see beauty, that is what love does. I am lucky to find these people and glad I do not rely on beauty to feel attraction. I know people say I have low standards, maybe to them I do, but I have very high standards and am very picky, it just does not include physical beauty.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    That is a very sad analysis, but I will take your word on it as you have probably rooted more men than me. And I agree with Ralf too. I joined RHP for fun and good sex. I only meet with people I have come to know through the forums tho. Otherwise I read all the comments the women make about how dissatisfied they are with adult online dating and to be honest... I will give it a miss.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Pictures are important, but you make it sound like the guy has to be hot stuff. That isn't true. I have to be attracted to a man's face and eyes. Apparently that is how women pick their lovers anyway. Although they go for manly faces when they are ovulating and more gentle faces when they are not. If a person's eyes don't speak to me than I just don't feel any sexual attraction.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Sounds like you should pay for a sex worker rather than "paying" for RHP women. *thumbs down from me*

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Sheesh buddy you've got a few hot friends there ? What happened with them ? Maybe I should try the woe is me starving actor or musician look and see how I go ? I've met a few people on here but unfortunately they have either looked completely different in real life, or I haven't put in enough effort and it's just kind of fizzled out. (I know ladies - my bad) You really do have to put in the yards to get the rewards. I'd really love a sexy lady to chase me for once. Now that would be liberating but when you're confronted with an army of emails every time you sign in of course it will never happen. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do. Maybe just go back to the pub and have a crack like I've been doing for the past 20 years. Worked pretty good so far. :)) Nothing beats meeting someone face to face and at least that way you can actually get a response - even if it is "fuck off mate ". Lol N

  • Dryphuz

    Dryphuz

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'innerwest123' Quoting 'SoSoPretty' Out of curiosity, would you send a message or respond with interest to a woman you weren't attracted to at all, but they have a "great personality" on their profile? --- Honestly, no - i think that physical attraction is of course key - the first bite is with the eye, and all. Its the personality that then determines if you progress past a quick chat or first meet... I'm pretty good at alienating myself from the crowd here, normally by misrepresenting myself, but this time its going to be deserved i think. I certainly look at hot pictured profiles first. I don't only leave it at that, but I'm definitely biased towards the hotties. I don't even look at profiles with no photos at all. Now I've had several relationships with people i didn't find attractive on first impressions, so I think the OP is missing out a bit there, but we're talking about a hookups website here. First impressions is what its all about. Lets have a look shall we... Botox, collagen, liposuction, breats implants, butt implants, hip augmentation, diet pills, slimming milkshakes, personal trainers, home gyms, exercise videos, stomach banding, thigh gap, bikini bridge, six pack, guns, laser hair removal, waxing, shaving, nail polish, acrylic nails, lipstick, lip gloss, eyeliner, eyeshadow, hair dye, hair extensions, mousse, gel, anti-wrinkle cream, concealer, blush, deodorant, perfume, contact lenses, teeth whitening, skin peels, control underwear, high heels, corsets, pantyhose, thigh highs, fishnets, miniskirts... That's just off the top of my head. All of these are first impression tools and all of them are sensory not mental enhancers. I don't have figures, but I'm willing to bet there's more money selling these products than selling education. Having said all that, once first impressions are over all you have left are your words and they had better be damn good to keep someone after the first impression. That's where i generally do my best work, but since i make a bad first impression i don't get to demonstrate that much. I'm not as jaded as the OP by this state of affairs, but i don't pretend his contention is anything but a generality based in reality. I've known plenty of women to end up with good looking losers and morons. While i'm sure its only a generality and not an absolute I'm on the side of the fence that says hot photos get the hits, flirts, messages and replies. Feel free to hate on me now. I know you want to. In this case i will willingly bask in the incandescence of your anger at my standpoint on this one.

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