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tantric sexual explorations
August 17 2015
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madotara69
10 years ago
if tantric explorations are much for difference with edging, philosophy perhaps and our inner selves connecting, edging is extremely intimate and the exploration intensifies as our minds produce a cocktail of good feelings, lust, passion, care, trust, intimacy, love, heightened arousal and prolonged feelings with that thing welling up continuously in a state of orgasmic euphoria once the time has been allowed for these changes induced and produced and ultimately a tangled mess of writhing bodies in a puddle of bliss and cumming ! becomes ........................into.......................... an orgasmic experience. 'Set the controls to the heart of the sun" Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
10 years ago
Can you explain exactly what your definition and approach to tantric sex is? You only say that you are influenced by tantric play, and you feel this is limiting who you connect with? So can you explain what it is that makes your love making different ? Or is it as Mado refered to,edging?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Tantric sex is edging using intercourse with full body, mind and eye contact. It creates fire. But it's a tool of love, a much deeper and more involved experience than most people look for around here. I can't see it working in a swingers club between people who've just met naked, put it that way.
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RHP User
10 years ago
While I have never participated in tantric sex as such, I have had experiences with ecstatic full body orgasms for 4-6 hours of pure pleasure. It is incredible and has carried over benefits to regular sex for me and my wife. I'd love to explore and learn tantric practices as part of my open play but it is near impossible to find unless you want to pay money to visit a goddess, which I am considering as a learning experience. If you find any more information let me know! Andrew.
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RHP User
10 years ago
You might have more luck looking around Byron OP. Seems to be the place for Tantra. I have always been curious on why BSDM is so popular and Tantra is not as a form of sexual exploration. Perhaps because I'm not into BSDM :D - Posted from rhpmobile
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sensualplay
10 years ago
Hi, aahhh, yes personal definitions vary greatly. Our influences are from the likes of say Diana Richardson to Barbara Carrellas so largely neo-tantra. I guess what is different is that play has a lot of connection, enough as far as being able to feel and play within subtle energy fields as well as the physical and emotional all together. For examples, facilitating full body energetic orgasms with little to no touch at all. It is more focussed on experience in the moment than say 'conventional' sex where friction based orgasm is a goal, and in the experience to really feel the subtles of deep connection 'Edging' is not what we do, but rather go into more and more pleasure wholistically until there are no edges. The male in the partnership here and have as many full bodied orgasms as he wishes without any 'edging'. I guess we are curious because a lot of people contact wanting more conventional styled sex (which there's nothing wrong with that, but if we are going to take the time and effort to meet with people to share experiences – we are wanting something extraordinary :-) thanks for asking
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sensualplay
10 years ago
Hi CravingTouch hmm we figured that it probably wouldn't work in a swingers club, not that we have ever been to one to know. We have been to tantric play parties though .... all to do with the initial intentions, and that has been important with the people we have shared experiences with xx
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Unrushed1' You might have more luck looking around Byron OP. Seems to be the place for Tantra. I have always been curious on why BSDM is so popular and Tantra is not as a form of sexual exploration. Perhaps because I'm not into BSDM :D - Posted from rhpmobile Tantra takes a long time, and you have to be patient, and you have to find out about it, and it sounds incredibly intimate not something you would do with just anybody.... unlike BDSM or sex. Ya know.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I would say it is also boring to watch. Is that right? People want eye candy when they go to clubs for example.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Oops. That sounded a bit bad. What I mean is tantric sex is not interactive in the same way BDSM can be in a club/group setting.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think it is as CravingTouch has mentioned, it is very intimate and love based - the total opposite in a way to what is more prevalent on RHP. In my opinion BDSM ideals are more aligned with society in general than tantric ideals, that's why it's more popular. I know lots of people from the Byron/Mullum area and yes tantra would fit right into that vibe ;) You're not too far from Byron OP good luck. - Posted from rhpmobile
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sensualplay
10 years ago
Hi Meeka, While tantric sexual play is really focussed on connection and a full bodied experience .... this does also include taking in the beauty of what is present, including bodies (or eye candy), to us it is about being with it all at the same time. Perhaps at times it maybe boring to watch of someone was to stumble in, however anyone involved is full absorbed by the experience :-) I was wondering if you may have heard of Barbara Carrellas book or workshops on Urban Tantra - this is a fusion of BDSM and tantric sex ... they don't necessarily need to be all that different :-) In our experience, because tantric sex is focussed on the moment, it is not bound by time. So there is no need to be patience or believe that it takes a long time. Simple presence and intent is enough. Although full presence is not easy for a lot of people. and agree it is very intimate. x
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RHP User
10 years ago
Tantra is a very intimate and slow process (especially when on partner is the 'student'). I believe it's too connected and intertwined with 'love' and 'emotion for it to be of much use to people who are 'ostensibly' hooking up for good sex. (Not that there's anything wrong or strange or un-anything about that). It involves techniques that take often years to perfect (or even grasp) and as I said, I believe that's more for those who are into more 'permanent' and above all 'monogamous relationships'. It's wonderful when two people can reach such heights and achieve such things that can be, but it's too 'intimate' to share with just anyone and as I said, takes times (as in years)...
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sensualplay
10 years ago
Hi All good fun, As our name suggests, we enjoy intimate play rather than at a distance play ...hahaha ... perhaps it may be misunderstood that when very present each person while merging through an experience together, on the other side it is crystal clear where each person lays in terms of personal boundaries and attachments etc, Each person is their own and having an individual experience as they are in communion. We thought too that perhaps it can be conceived as too serious, and involving elaborate rituals, settings, incense or a bit too hippy etc Where it can be that but it can be playful, fun and spontaneous, flowing out of the moment. Yes we are not far from the Byron Region but we are not able to easily travel given our young family. B&A
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sensualplay
10 years ago
Hi Muso, We understand some of your points. You are probably right that a shared experience is requires too much connectedness/presence/vulnerability than most people are willing to go to who are on RHP. This is what we we're curious about. Like people with various kink niches, I guess it narrows down who is willing to connect and play. While we have had years of experience and trainings etc, we have been able to have extraordinary experiences with others who have had no experience. Looking at the research of Dr Jenny Wade, author of Transcendent Sex, there are many many people without any special training, and not requiring long term monogamous relating, who are having sexual experiences that profoundly effect them, some akin to the same levels of expereince of spiritual masters of any given tradition. They just stumble upon it, something triggers them into this. So it actual doesn't require years of experience/training etc. In our experience it is helpful to have years of experience/training so that these experiences are more consistent There are several factors that contribute to enabling transcendent experiences that can be helpful to know :-) It is interesting you mention that it is more suited for "above all 'monogamous relationships'." We are connected to many in the conscious sexuality / trantric community and got to say the relationship structure doesn't matter. We believe that the philosophies of tantra in its wider sense are very helpful to those in polyamorous relationships, free dancing with others, or who are celebrate. There are many folk who are poly in 'tantric' communities, but yes this is not swinging. There are many forms of polyamory, won't go it to that here ... Dr Anapol's book "Polyamory in the 21st century" is a great overview of it's diversity and modern day evolution. Back on the need to have experience and taking years to achieve. In our experience with women in threesomes who have had no experience but are open to sharing an experience, they are there with us, and have at times been touched deeply and found new perspective on life and new ways to experience lasting pleasure. They are glowing with what tantric sexual practices can offer. This is in one night We are with you on the idea that it would not be with just anyone, true. We are not interested in shallow experiences, we have busy lives and don't have the time, when we know we are able to co-create something beautiful. We are naturally open, warm and loving. Just as anyone on RHP, we all have preferences, so even for straight forward 'hook ups' that are say focussed on physical appearance, there is preference to the appearance of a person. For us, there needs to be a connection, presence and a willingness to be open to very sensual experiences. It does help to be emotionally aware :-) B&A
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sensualplay
10 years ago
In reflection of the thread. Perhaps it is just that we have a niche kink, so to speak. Like other kink preferences, it narrows down the community of people who are willing to connect within the given desires, and there are going to people who don't really understand because it is not part of their experiences - and don't need to either. Perhaps too, it'd be helpful for us to have a clearer description in our profile. Something inviting and conceivable in everyday language. It is a beautiful thing for us to introduce ways of engaging to others, ways that enable a fuller bodied experience and one that leaves them in lasting pleasure/bliss/joy beyond just the experience itself. thanks to everyone who has taken the time to read the thread, and thanks to everyone who participated. Look forward to more perspectives too if they emerge :-) Just wanted to pause to express gratitude for the learning and reflection so far. B&A
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RHP User
10 years ago
Ive read a few posts on here over the last yr about tantric, but nobody has really gone in depth about it. So thanks for your understandable replies. I might read up on it and learn a bit more. If there is such a thing as solo tantric sex,I will give myself a go. Haha.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'willowtree_2'If there is such a thing as solo tantric sex,I will give myself a go. Haha. Tantra is about sex, connection, physicality and love. Many people find it harder to do that with themselves than they do with others. But none of these things actually require a partner. So do it willow, explore your self-love, go deep, love yourself the way you've always wanted someone else to, in ALL senses.
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sensualplay
10 years ago
yes there are plenty of solo practices you can enjoy yourself with :-)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Will look into this. I could handle a big tantric love fest with myself. I might play hard to get at first, but I will win myself over in the end. Lol. Seriously Im going to read up on this. Cheers
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RHP User
10 years ago
Thanks for your comments... A partner with whom I was with for a number of years, both learnt under Helena Neistroj now on a site called 'Freedom To Thrive', for a number of years... It's interesting, although I haven't been with anyone who has been into the 'full-on' tantric experience for some time. I now find by just checking her site that she has a page dedicated to the "Recent Influx" of people who are using Tantra in a Polygamous situation. Worth a read. It was always (back in the day...LOL), reserved (or rather of interest to) only those who were in monogamous relationships and could put all their efforts and concentration into learning the techniques (for both sexes) and the things we were all able to achieve if we practiced and supported each other (as a couple, dedicated to something very emotional, intimate and special. As you say, it seems that there is this influx of people wanting to combine it with multiple people in one or more relationships. Incidentally, she would seem to be against this, being the 'purist that she is. But, each to their own... freedom and expression is what it's very much about. I just find that the full benefits can really only be experienced between a loving couple who have the special intimate bond that was initially the requirement... But, just the same... Good luck. I hope you get much from it... Thanks for you insights. Muso
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madotara69
10 years ago
You mention transcendent experiences, correct me if I am wrong, in that what you are referring to is altered state. There is 38 pages on google search relating to Edging and Tantra, the very first is "Tantric sex, the ultimate edging" 'Edging-Tantric masturbation' 'Tantra, living on the edge' 'Edging, how to have tantric sex'. I've read all your posts and you have not mentioned anything significant other than psychobabble around how many women you have got off in a single bound, plus you ignored my post and un-edged all over the shop. 'In Pursuit of the Ultimate Orgasm? Try Edging' Philosophy ?Surely you would agree that the full body orgasm only occurs while in altered state during a transcendent experience?, science suggests a woman in altered state having a full body orgasm is of a maternal state of mind and an induced reflex action of in the instance shutting down bodily functions, conscience of you, me, everyone, a whole bunch of feelings including lust, awareness, sexual desire, gone, as the mothers brain directly connects to her child in womb and together in mind she communicates comforting her child through trauma of giving birth. Such a beautiful thing and the maternal functions of a woman are on the ready her entire fertile life and some. Spiritual, Energy, Intimacy and the altered state full body orgasm is an involuntary chain of muscle contractions throughout the entire body while she is transcendent and fair flowing chemical receptors, hormones , endorphins, oxytocin, oestrogen. 'Eve said to Adam catch me if you can, It's been the same old story ever since the world began'
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RHP User
10 years ago
that's when Adam said nothing; shoved a ball gag in eves mouth and tied her to the tree of knowledge by a rope and zip tie attached to her studded collar; and one of those aeroplane blindfolds that help you sleep..... And teased her for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours..... What was I sayin?? I dunno either 😝 As you were 😝😂 - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
10 years ago
Wait till we get to Edging-Tantruck masturbation for delivering the long haul overload using pilot precautions Blowing into a cup is cheating yourself every time 😝
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RHP User
10 years ago
1 cup and 1 idiot 😝😝😝 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Its about connecting to self first and then the other. It can definitely be used in a swinging situation, just needs to be explained and isnt about ejaculating, you can have orgasm even with a soft penis. And you don't have to go to byron bay to get it, there are tantric people everywhere. I have been practicing it for years and I have used it in swinging situations with amazing results. Its about both parties wanting the connection and to "feel" more than just the act of friction, which is what sex is for most. And its true that tantric orgasm can last for a long time as they are a wave and so rise and fall and then rise again even higher the next time. Normal orgasm that we all know of lasts about 3 seconds, these can last for hrs on different levels. Feel free to contact me if you want more information. - Posted from rhpmobile
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sensualplay
10 years ago
Madotara69, how to respond? If you are believing us to not be “the full quid”, that'll render any response redundant. Feeling a bit unsure how Our original post is us being curious if there was interest among rhp members for play that is influenced by tantric sexual practices. It seems you are offended that somehow we “ignored” your post. We didn't ignore it, we read it and sounded delicious. No where did you ask a question or ask for special acknowledgement. We're curious where we have made clams on the number of women we have gotten off in a single bound? Really? This is sort of where we are curious because we don't intend to 'get people off'', we're interested in a touching and beautiful experience as the focus – and if this something the rhp community is open to. The point of sharing our experience with 3somes, if this is what you are talking about, was not about getting anyone off, but have been personally touching experiences, which are the opposite. There's no mention of how many women or any intent for it to be boasting, just saying in our experience if someone is open to 'tantric' experiences, we can all come away feeling more beautiful and fulfilled than before it, that reaches us beyond the sexual and into our lives. This can also happen in others ways for people too, there's no rights or wrongs in our perspective, we just have personal preferences like anyone else. On edging: There are numerous tantric sexual practices, edging is part of that, it is not something we practice. Enjoy it if that is what you enjoy :-). The point of talking about Jenny Wades research into transcendent sexual experiences in the context of the reply, is that, it is happening for many people regardless of relationship, experience/training etc. There is a misconception that deeply profound states through sex require special knowledge, skills and training. And yes, transcendent in this body of research is about entering an altered state beyond normal orgasmic states. We agree with you that full bodied orgasmic states are an altered state and transcendent from every day states. They occur to various degrees. We experience full bodied orgasms regularly, but profound life changing transcendent experiences that go beyond pleasure no where near as commonly. Most of what Jenny is looking at is the profound life changing states. Madotara, we're happy to converse, and maybe things would be different in person, we don't know, but enjoyed your contribution, not so much the criticisms. Nothing to be taken too seriously :-) B&A
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sensualplay
10 years ago
Hi Columbia2011, We enjoyed your preservative and is very similar to our own. Yes, Byron is not the only hub of it. Plenty of fun events and people in Melb, Syd, Brissy and the sunny coast too. :-) x
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sensualplay
10 years ago
Hi Muso, thanks for the heads up for the website, we'll have an explore in time. There's some great looking information/article on the site :-) We noticed she had an article on monogamy and ployamory, and seems she has no judgement on a preference just encouraging for it to be beautiful which ever path. Tantra in the western world tends to be a melting pot of various traditions and mostly neo-tantric ones. Depending on the linage multiple loves is not so new, but agree more people are open to polyamory recently and it is getting some attention from mainstream media. If you look at the highly sexual statues say at the temples of Khajuraho, they suggest multiple/group sexual acts in this linage of tantra was celebrated :-) ....try a google image search for "temples of Khajuraho" .. We do though find it easier and have more deeply connected experiences one-on-one. It is a great way to enhance a monogamous relationship for sure, and mostly we are (but boxes disturb us hehehhe). Also we can be far more intimate in our experiences together than with more involved. Still we find sharing experiences adds something beautiful to our lives and our intimacy we share as a couple. thanks Muso B&A
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madotara69
10 years ago
I can assure you, if we were sitting at the table, you'd know I was pulling your leg and I did end each post in the good spirits of Rock n Roll; ...If you took it all serious like, then there'd be something in it, you'd be all snarly and chuck a tantrum, become to Tantra wasn't in your temperament, I'd be wondering just what would be intended if you Tantra Tara, tantrum would not be the tantric experience and edgy ain't edging so we'd really fucking hope desert was scrumptious and topped off the evening meal :) So I get it that Tantric play is all about energy, I'll call it positive energy as Godhead sounds a bit like Rodhead, fancy that someone will never live it up for spelling Rod with a G, anyhow, we ride the wave of positive energy, we are in love, soul mates and when our spirits met we became friends forever and we believe in each other and that is what drives our energy to be who we are and together we hold each other up, but Tara glows and just looking at her I have an internal orgasm and her smiling eyes and playful spirit is a mental fuck when we aren't making love, lovemaking is all for it's own experience. So edging is a term we describe as to the nature of how we have explored each other together intimate and reached some intense heights of passion and believe passion is the commonality for any desired sexual experience, never take for granted a passionate quickie and kinks are cool. But when I read how others describe tantra and the feelings that come of extended energy and heightened to altered state of being, transcendent and us as dirty fuckers add euphoria, off with the fairies, even off your fck'n head mental fucked. There is a single truth and it ain't ethereal. Amino-acids the building blocks of life. We have an organ in our brains that seeks out specific amino acids to create feelings for state of mind, thoughts, instincts, sexual arousal (arginine, methionine, lysine) imagination, belief, conscious, sub conscious, reproductive nature, just because it is awesome to ponder that altered state of a woman shutting down most of herself for the energy her mind uses to engage with the mind of her child during birth and the chemicals produced by amino acids for her to love and care, protect and motherly instincts, heightened awareness. ( thanking science for showing mother natures most wonderful gift) Energy is in everything, a wave in the ocean is energy, wind is energy, bang like a dunny door, sunshine, the earth spinning, the universe, life, a table, cup of tea, a Fender 160 watt twin amp and a 350 chev purrs at 5500 rpm all day long. I believe Tantra is something more than just focusing imaginative thought to create the feelings.. energy empowers transcendence and the orgasm thing you do and amino acids feed an organ that designs everything that feels good, even religion, ritual, antinomianism....Dreamtime, edging and the ultimate orgasm. But if you reckon the tantric orgasm can be pretty good, then we'd give it an energetic whirl. Ever tried it on a washing machine on spin cycle?
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RHP User
10 years ago
A difference between Neo Tantra,and practising Highest Yoga Tantra which indeed takes years of commitment and instruction ..In Tibetan Buddhism to practise Tantra with a partner.is considered to be the quickest way to enlightenment..If you look at the Tibetan Thankas or pictures of deities you will see some with consorts ...I think that Mado and Tara have probably achieved much of what you talk about OP in their connectedness .And OP if you are introducing others to a mindful practice then that can only be a good thing. Hugs xxFreya
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madotara69
10 years ago
love you Miss Freya
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sensualplay
10 years ago
Thanks Freya :-) There are lots of forms of Neo Tantra that also take many years and commitment. Neo Tantra rose around the 11th century and spread, although it was not until the 1960's for it to be embraced in the west. Some of those who have trained in classical linages while having strong links to classical Tantra consider Tibetan and Buddhist Tantra to be neo-tantra. What really muddies the waters today is neo tantra in the west being influenced by new ageism, this is the nature of neo-tantra that is waivers in its form as it has travelled geographically, culturally and through the ages. It still offers plenty :-) yes, I like the word mindfullness ... sometimes I don't like using the word tantra because it means so many things to many different people. The main thing for us is sharing connected experiences that are focussed on the present and with all senses, and allowing for various states of consciousness and emotions to freely rise, and to introduce perhaps new ways of experiencing sex. Warmly B&A .
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sensualplay
10 years ago
hahha, You both sound like your having awesome sex and a heap of fun :-) xx
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RHP User
10 years ago
Tantra just means transformation..Even in Tibten Buddhism there are four different sects...differing approaches ..the Ningma being the oldest sect dating back to Padmasambhawa in the ,,,eight century,he brought Buddhism to Tibet..of course it was the Hindus who first practiced Tantra.and really in my opinion there will always be different pathways leading to the same direction but unfortunately some people become ego driven as happened to Michael Roach...xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
As I said, I had 'accepted instruction' (i.e. studied) under, what I consider to be a skilful an knowledgable proponent of Tantra. I'm not altogether sure what branch or sect she 'aspired to' or even if her methods were considered 'neo' or traditional. I can say that it was the 'physical side', that being the possibilities of improving ones (and one's partenr's) ability to enjoy more and for longer... For instance, one exercise, which took not months but years to master myself, was to be able to use the 'Kegel Muscle' (pelvic floor muscle) to effectively shut off the flow of semen through the prostate, so you have a 'dry orgasm'. Admittedly, at least for me, not as mind blowing as the 'proper one' but still second only to that... It allows you to recover very quickly (in a few minutes) and go again... many times. Before you just can't hold any more, and out it comes. That, I would say without any doubt, is the greatest advantage and learnt technique I have come out of Tantric study (and much, much practice and exercise) with. It's a wonderful gift and also, I am assured by my Doc (whom I've known for 25 years and speak to about everything...) is actually a healthy and beneficial way to avoid problems later in life, such as incontinence. As much for men as for women. Women are encourage to 'Kegel' after childbirth to tighten the vaginal walls and for many other reasons. Men also benefit from the same exercises. Every muscle in our body benefits from exercise, so why not the ones that 'some people' don't like to mention or acknowledge the existence of, because it's connected with 'dirty sex'... LOL. Thanks people.
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