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spelling & grammar
April 27 2012
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RHP User
14 years ago
A woman: without her, man is nothing.Now tell me punctuation is important.Correct punctuation and grammar show two things; education and effort. Women are instinctually attracted to intelligent educated men. I'm sure it's something about improving the species but we're not really here for that are we? The other point is that it shows that the man is making an effort and putting a bit of time into his message. When a woman is bombarded with messages I'm sure she's not going to look twice at one with bad grammar and punctuation, let alone SMS-speak before hitting delete.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Title should read "A woman, without her man, is nothing".
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RHP User
14 years ago
Don't you hate it when that shit happens, Mrs. Tri. Exactly right though, the way a sentence is worded and punctuated does indicate how much thought went into a post and how much education is behind the opinion offered. Can't claim to be the best of spellers myself but I think I put in enough effort to get my message across.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I get your point wooduck but it is, as Mrs.Tri so cleverly illustrates,important to communicate clearly,so yes,it does make a difference. However there are many exteremely educated people who can't spell.If this is a problem for you, use a spell check or a dictionary,make an effort and construct messages that show you have read a woman's profile. I receive messages that say,'wat u doin' ......what on earth do I reply to that?.Make an effort and you will at least have a chance that a woman will message you back.x Hugs H
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RHP User
14 years ago
With anyone we meet we always conduct a Spelling and Punctuation Test Followed by the obligatory square peg in a round hole exercise,and of course making sure they find the right holes.
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RHP User
14 years ago
imtoocooltobotherwithanyofthatshit
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RHP User
14 years ago
I see punctuation as an indication that someone's taken the time and care to make sure the message they're sending is understood. No puntuation makes it look like a rushed message without a lot of thought or care. And I agree with Mrs Tri, punctuation can chane the meaning completely.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse.I helped my uncle jack off a horse.i once had a guy tell me that he didn't believe in capital letters and they would soon be obsolete.I have a feeling they might still be relevant and required for a while to come. lol
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RHP User
14 years ago
not everybody is a native speaker, some of us had to learn it, here, ....also dont be to hard on us we try. I can tell you something to....no matter how much I read and write and speak.......I dont believe you can say I am not intelligent, however I will always make a mistake in your english language, will it be about, past present or now.....gramma is hard. Tell me , who does speak and writes a second language.....not many Australian do. Most people who do, have not been born in Australia. So what are you saying jensman I should never write and have an opinion because my gramma is shit. Sorry, I cant do that.
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RHP User
14 years ago
ee cummings always used lower case.....youarealsocutelittlewings
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RHP User
14 years ago
Good spelling, punctuation and grammar reflects your personality the same way that a hairstyle or clothing does. Lack thereof means (to me) that you don't care enough about what you are saying for me to take you seriously. If what you have to say is important, then you should make the effort and take the time to ensure it is clear for your audience to understand. I often give up reading unpunctuated messages from young 20-something guys because it's just so damn confusing trying to follow the breaks in their sentences! Not to mention that correct punctuation can dramatically change what you are in fact trying to say. e.g. "Let's eat, Grandad!" versus "Let's eat Grandad!"'. Hehe, big difference.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Let's eat, Grandma. | This language is easy... look up papa viejo in Spanish and you'll find one tiny little punctuation mark is the difference between calling someone an old potato or using term of endearment. | Seriously, you'll look like the Big Bad Wolf or worse...end up eating Grandma.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I don't use spell check. If people make the odd mistake, well I can live with that, God knows I probably make plenty.If it's a complete dogs breakfast....well, that grates a bit, same for text speak!I hate seeing words with American spelling though....unless your American of course.FeloniuslyFallible
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wannabyummymummy
14 years ago
I would say I am pretty tolerant of the odd mistake in grammar (after all it seems our school system as moved away from it's focus on it)If i am in chat or on msn typos happen a lot so you have to take that for what it is.In a message i am not going to go all school teacher and mark it out of 10 based on spelling mistakes and full stops but i do want it to a) make sense b) use full sentences and c) be actually worth reading and not full of text speak.I always make sure i proof read my messages and posts to try and cut down on mistakes but alas i am human and the odd one slips through (somebody spank me!!) Oh and midnight, you stole my line!! i was going to go with the grandma one, oh well first in first served as the saying goes........
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RHP User
14 years ago
CM dear,lots of young things here love eating grandmas.....or um ,so I hear
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QLDtwo4fun
14 years ago
It's not only what you write in a profile, it's how you write it. Your style of writing is just another indication of the sort of person you are.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' Let's eat, Grandma. ... Seriously, you'll look like the Big Bad Wolf or worse...end up eating Grandma. When it comes to some Grandmas a fair case could be made for self-defence. It was either Grandma or me!Good onya wooduck78. The sad truth is that some of us are elitists. I can boss grammar and spelling around like they're both my bitches. However it doesn't make me a good person or -- as on this site it may be more important to be -- a hot candidate for sex with human females. So, for what it's worth, to anyone out there in RHPland: I apologise for my pretentiousness and smug sense of superiority as though I were channelling Oscar Wilde whenever I respond to a topic, send a message or update my profile.The proof is in the pudding when the sort of guys who used to beat me up in school can send a group SMS to every woman in their address book:"hey im horny n wanna fuk n u r really hot call me and lets make it happen lol xxx"and get two to three responses, then convince said women to have an orgy...while I'm home alone making posts of literary brilliance on RHP.So yes, I could choose to cling to my wankish writing skills to make me feel like an alpha male. But my sentences don't let me tie them to the headboard, pound them then come all over them while swearing like a trooper. Well... I guess they would... But it's really not the same.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think the proper use of language (especially written/non-verbal) is important for 'optimal communication' as well as 'misunderstanding reduction.' "A stitch...time saves..."Meaning effort in the first place saves time later + an example of the proper use of ellipsis (...) In addition, it show's attention to detail and a level of consideration; e.g., saves others time, confusion and annoyance. It displays a level of intellect and comprehension skills; i.e., demonstrated through the ability to be effectively understood."It's like learning a language; you can't speak a language fluently until you find out who you are in that language, and that has as much to do with your body as it does with vocabulary and grammar."*Fred Frith*Underline added for emphasis.
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RHP User
14 years ago
It is in fact a 'period, comma and a space.' Cass xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
....if I sent you a note that said "I'd like to put you in a coma....period" then I might be asking you for more than a few hours of your time. | It's all about your state of mind...or your mindless state.
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
I am an intellectual snob. The profile says so.If you don't know the rules then at least cop-and-paste your message into word and let it point out the worst mistakes. If you send me a message riddled with errors then I assume you haven't read my profile and so I don't bother reading yours.And for the record - I know mechanics who left school in year 10 who have excellent written communication skills, and academics with PhDs who don't. It actually has very little to do with education and very much to do with care factor; and seeing as I care...Cheers,MS
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RHP User
14 years ago
Perhaps the same reason it is not important to you. Commonalities.People often seek out others who share same interests, characteristics, fetishes... thus the drop down boxes in our profiles - it helps, not guarantees, with compatibility (perhaps it should be added as a new check box ;p)Why does wearing socks to bed irk some and not phase others?Leaving the toilet roll empty anger some and yet others will not see a problem?Why do some like to be spanked when others prefer to hold the whip? ;pAs feloniusfossil stated, everyone makes typo's, no big deal. It's when I have to read a message three or more times, slowly, due to spelling and grammar, that irks me. Especially considering spell checker automatically highlights incorrectly spelt words. I see it as lazy and lack of effort. I don't mind American spelling, at least I can understand it and it is actually now being more accepted as correct spelling here. To be honest I find it makes more sense phonetically.MrsTri, I couldn't agree more! A woman with her comma is nothing!
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RHP User
14 years ago
...try and take the piss and it back fires... ! withOUT damn it!
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RHP User
14 years ago
You guys are talking as if ozzland is Oxford University , English is not my first language as many people who we see on daily basis , what should I do deactivate my account because I do make punctuation mistakes, if punctuation gonna show how intelligent and smart i am , writers and journalists should be perfect matches for dating .Show me your punctuation skills in a different language besides English , try to write in French and i will judge you as uneducated person . That's naive to judge a person's knowledge in life from his punctuation and capital letters ...
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Litonya' not everybody is a native speaker, some of us had to learn it, here, ....also dont be to hard on us we try. I can tell you something to....no matter how much I read and write and speak.......I dont believe you can say I am not intelligent, however I will always make a mistake in your english language, will it be about, past present or now.....gramma is hard. Tell me , who does speak and writes a second language.....not many Australian do. Most people who do, have not been born in Australia. So what are you saying jensman I should never write and have an opinion because my gramma is shit. Sorry, I cant do that. Actually, i know when English is someone's second language.Believe it or not, it actually comes out in the little grammatical mistakes!I too find it abhorrent that the average Australian has trouble with grammar, although i am fairly tolerant to people with learning disorders.What really shits me is "Text Speak"will c u 2 nite!I also think this shows laziness, and if you are lazy in one area of your personal life, then you are probably lazy in others too.Especially the bedroom!
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RHP User
14 years ago
...and as such, we all make mistakes. If you're not a native English speaker, I think more mistakes can be forgiven. I love words and language so for me, a basic understanding of how to use it is important and it does form part of my consideration when reading messages. It's not necessarily a deal breaker though.But I do hate text speak in an email, hell I can't even use it in a text message! Seriously, I've had a go - you know, to be 'trendy', but I deleted it and retyped it in full before I sent it! I understand that others use it freely but I find it harder to read. Aaaah, just another layer of individuality that makes this journey so exciting.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Litonya' not everybody is a native speaker, some of us had to learn it, here, ....also dont be to hard on us we try. I can tell you something to....no matter how much I read and write and speak.......I dont believe you can say I am not intelligent, however I will always make a mistake in your english language, will it be about, past present or now.....gramma is hard. Tell me , who does speak and writes a second language.....not many Australian do. Most people who do, have not been born in Australia. So what are you saying jensman I should never write and have an opinion because my gramma is shit. Sorry, I cant do that. Your gramma isn't too bad. In fact, it's better than a lot of the messages I've received. But most languages have at least full stops and capitals. I'd be interested to know where you got the fact that not many Australians speak, read and write a second language and most who do have not been born in Australia. Even though I'm full blooded Italian, I was born in Australia, therefore, considered Italian descent, however, Australian born. I have 52 cousins here in Australia and out of those 52, about 30 of us were born in Australia. We all speak fluent Italian as well as read an write Italian. I also come across a lot of Australians who speak a second language in my job. I'm pretty sure jensman didn't mean it as a peronal attack against those not born in Australia.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Anyone who knows the correct use of "you're" and "your", and can tell the difference between "their", "they're" and "there" is halfway to getting into my panties :)
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RHP User
14 years ago
Though the typo in her post is hilarious. :-)Actually, as a bloke who's mildly dyslexic with a 15 year old keyboard (who's shift key has parkinsons), I make some cracking mistakes. Hopefully most people look past this? But there is a difference between the odd typo and someone who's communication skills approximate a banjo.I'm now wondering if the new euphemism for clitoris is coma?AND.. are Wooduk78, Newkee, Multiples_xxx and Feloniusfossil not all proper nouns? Capitals people!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
...and may give you probation on your jail term, although no guarantees about being tortured just a bit in the dungeon but always with soft silky ropes and degree of dedication to art of sensuality. | Quoting 'newkee'I don't mind American spelling, at least I can understand it and it is actually now being more accepted as correct spelling here. To be honest I find it makes more sense phonetically. | The next time you buy foil at the store, please don't call it aluminium as that's rather elemental...Al with an atomic number of 13, what you want is the stuff Alcoa has been making called aluminum foil. They make cans out of it...and please don't just answer with the word "can't"...don't call me that or point it at me unless you intend to use it! | Now when it comes to fonix, watch out for that flying "r" ...where I come from mutha is only half a word, although when it lands in the word drawing it makes me smile as it leaves a ringing in my ears. I'm really not that pedantic, and as you said it's the differences we notice and if they make us laugh a bit together then maybe we will get along just fine, ma'am...I'm only funnin' wich ya'all. | The ones that do really get me though are those cockeyed cockney accents...I don't know if I'm supposed to get a 'ard on or if they sound like Kiwis to my ears. Oh well, at least they're not like those 'bluty Queenslanders that wear fuzzy little lambs wool lined Crocs in the winter...they really do worry me. Thank geeeeee-awd they make up for it in the summer by wearing thongs, just not knickers even under board short when walking along the beach. | Use whatever grammar you like, just don't look or sound like my 'nana. 'Nanas in pajamas...jearzus that's an Aussie thing! | My bad, but if we can't have fun we're screwed even without the sex.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'CityCat89' Anyone who knows the correct use of "you're" and "your", and can tell the difference between "their", "they're" and "there" is halfway to getting into my panties :) "Your" is second person singular possessive"You're" is the contraction of the second person singular (or plural) article and the verb "to be""Their" is third person plural possessive"They're" is the contraction of the third person plural article and the verb "to be", but can also be used as a gender-neutral third person singular."There" can be used as an adverb, verb, or pronounNow...tell me more about those panties : )xx Stuck
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RHP User
14 years ago
I too notice the errors in a post/message/profile, I give the benefit of the doubt sigh and wished they had spell-checked...I have lived in Europe and one of the things I marveled at is most are fluent in at least two languages, spoken and written, it is also not at all unusual to find they can actually communicate with skill in four or five. A degree of latitude is given to begin with as I am fluent in Typo....Text talk - too much of it at least is my turn off...but only after I have asked the writer not to. Although this thread is very interesting it troubles me a little, I would never correct another persons grammar or spelling mistakes in a public arena such as a post/profile/message as I value good manners as much more important, and it shows more of your character to belittle one for a simple misspelled word than actually misplacing a comma.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'stuckinthemiddle' Quoting 'CityCat89' Anyone who knows the correct use of "you're" and "your", and can tell the difference between "their", "they're" and "there" is halfway to getting into my panties :) "Your" is second person singular possessive "You're" is the contraction of the second person singular (or plural) article and the verb "to be" "Their" is third person plural possessive "They're" is the contraction of the third person plural article and the verb "to be", but can also be used as a gender-neutral third person singular. "There" can be used as an adverb, verb, or pronoun Now...tell me more about those panties : ) xx StuckStuck - there's no need to tell you about the panties - they've come all the way off!
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RHP User
14 years ago
I try to be reasonably tolerant of others mistakes (grammatical errors). My mother was an english teacher of the old school and such things are ingrained now. I find all the text speak and non attention to detail a little mind numbing at times yes but dont normally tuern into the spelling nazi from hell when a message is riddled with mistakes. It just means that the author of the message does not give much attention to detail. Having said that, I know some wonderful people who are dyslexic...can barely read or write at all.
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RHP User
14 years ago
That'd be the best offer I've had in years. Too bad the word 'panties' is an Americanism. A lot of people would be surprised to discover that English is their second language. They're the same people who pronounce words like 'Australia' as 'uh-stray-ya' and 'million' as 'mee-yun'. Whether or not they'd agree, their first language would be more accurately described as pidgin. Bad pronunciation, spelling, grammar and any use of text-speak are glaring signs of mental laziness which is a highly unattractive quality.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'CityCat89' Quoting 'stuckinthemiddle' Quoting 'CityCat89' Anyone who knows the correct use of "you're" and "your", and can tell the difference between "their", "they're" and "there" is halfway to getting into my panties :) "Your" is second person singular possessive "You're" is the contraction of the second person singular (or plural) article and the verb "to be" "Their" is third person plural possessive "They're" is the contraction of the third person plural article and the verb "to be", but can also be used as a gender-neutral third person singular. "There" can be used as an adverb, verb, or pronoun Now...tell me more about those panties : ) xx StuckStuck - there's no need to tell you about the panties - they've come all the way off! Grammar - the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit!!!!Where are your panties now? lol
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RHP User
14 years ago
There is a huge difference between laziness in content and misspelling.Messages that are lazy are the written grunts.An indication of lazy thinking. That is very unattracive Gonzo,as is a superior attitude towards the spelling and punctuationally challenged. The English language is ever evolving chaps,I love ,even lurve words and playing with words and meanings. Words are fuuuun and to be po faced and serious is soooo knot.So lets give people a break here .As was mentioned previously ,there are some lovely people who can't spell correctly,and some God awful ones who can,IMO. Queensland is of course, the home of the Queens English,hence the name...sheese Yanks,wot wud they no. x Hugs H
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RHP User
14 years ago
Agree. Except I think that text speak like LOL/PMSL/IMO (abbreviations, which are grammatically correct) and emoticons are not lazy. I think that not setting the non verbal tone is lazy and leads to misinterpretation. However, saying 'wot' for 'what' is etc. = lazy.Quoting 'GonzosDilemma'Bad pronunciation, spelling, grammar and any use of text-speak are glaring signs of mental laziness which is a highly unattractive quality. There are obvious exceptions- learning disorders of course and those learning 2nd language- I admire that. It's the general Joe's and Jane's that take their brains and capacity for granted that I abhor. We are mostly trying to get to know people here and if you show less than you are capable of- it is unreasonable to think others will assume you are smarter than what you display.If someone messages me your instead of you're I send them a friendly lesson in grammar. I make grammatical errors all the time- it is the willingness to learn and improve on the speaking and writing of a most convoluted language that show's effort.Cass xxx Capital, I allow for artistic license with username's :P
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RHP User
14 years ago
and now PMSL
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
whosup beat me to it, but do you think we could get together and read "eats, shoots and leaves"? :o MS
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RHP User
14 years ago
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RHP User
14 years ago
...it's nice mixed with vodka on a hot day, now this is getting difficult for me to follow you know. | SIB KISS puh-lezzz.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'CityCat89' Anyone who knows the correct use of "you're" and "your", and can tell the difference between "their", "they're" and "there" is halfway to getting into my panties :) Would love to see you lose those panties CityCat, as opposed to loosing them, which is just untidy.Mr C
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RHP User
14 years ago
But it is science :) Numerous experiments tell is that we tend to 'mate' (short or long term) with people who match us on a number of levels - health, wealth, class, looks, attitudes etc. It's not about being the same, but rather sufficiently similar to have enough common ground to establish and maintain a connection. Interestingly, while we tend to mate with our match, we aspire to mate with someone just a little better than us. As far as spelling and grammar goes, it's usually people who are quite proficient with the English language who then seek the same in others. I'm less concerned about the occasional typo or poor phrasing (including my own) and more concerned about spelling and phrases that suggest someone has a vastly different (more or less) level of education than me, or even moreso, a vastly different attitude to life. I'm not afraid of difference, but I am attracted to people who will stimulate me on many levels. The way people write, and the care win which they present their thoughts and opinions, is usually an indication to me of the kinds of conversations we'll have. It's not the only indication, but nevertheless, an important one to me. And like I said, it's in our DNA to seek a match who, well, matches! So I look for people that might have a range of things in common with me ...
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RHP User
14 years ago
There is a time and a place for slow, careful and technically correct, and there's a time when quick, hard and dirty will do just nicely.If it's just banging away without thought that gets annoying.Mr C
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RHP User
14 years ago
I think I'm about the fifth here to include a stupid typo on a thread about grammar - It's just banging away without thought that gets annoying.I think there's something in that for all of us...
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LoveFrenzy
14 years ago
Wow there are some very smart people here. So many intellectuals on RHP. It's great to get a message that does not use text speak, has limited errors (I would have put no errors, but based on how we can all make the occasional typo I'm covering myself) and can be understood!Another one to ponder this time about the panda:Eats, shoots and leaves.Eats shoots and leaves.
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RHP User
14 years ago
... they're present and correct. But oh so much nicer if they're present and COR erect! Jus' sayin' ;-)
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RHP User
14 years ago
rippling abs > grammar and spelling
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'ChasingMidnight' . The ones that do really get me though are those cockeyed cockney accents...I don't know if I'm supposed to get a 'ard on or if they sound like Kiwis to my ears. Oh well, at least they're not like those 'bluty Queenslanders that wear fuzzy little lambs wool lined Crocs in the winter...they really do worry me. Thank geeeeee-awd they make up for it in the summer by wearing thongs, just not knickers even under board short when walking along the beach. |Really Mr Midnight! But what of the lambs wool Croc wearing Queenslanders who don't even wear knickers in the winter? Surely that counts for something ????
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RHP User
14 years ago
As previously said, we all make the odd typo, human nature i guess but what does my head in the most, is the text speak and errors in a profile. Considering your profile is where i go to learn about you and see if anything piques my interest - if i have to read and re-read a sentence to make sense of what your saying, then thats just way to much hard work for me. I remember hearing a story from a girl who had heard a friends grand mother had died. She sent a text of her condolences and ended it with lol - she thought it meant lots of love...
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Smilingwithfun
14 years ago
Had to reply to this.Jensman didn't say not to have a opinion- this is what makes AUSTRALIA great-he was just giving his opinion.As for australians not having a second language, so, that is your opinion & free to express it in Australia.
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RHP User
14 years ago
This is the point i was trying to make.There's surely no need to judge someone this harshly No one here knows me but because i cant write properly i'm lazy shocking in bed a bully stupid & a few other things I left school as soon as i could i was never any good at it. I was employed before i even left i have always worked & dam hard to & at the moment working on multi million dollar machines anything from hydraulic & engine overhauls to full electric rewires.All i was trying to point out is that some of us are not very good with the whole written language & were far from being stupid lazy bullies cheers wooduck
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'GonzosDilemma' That'd be the best offer I've had in years. Too bad the word 'panties' is an Americanism. A lot of people would be surprised to discover that English is their second language. They're the same people who pronounce words like 'Australia' as 'uh-stray-ya' and 'million' as 'mee-yun'. Whether or not they'd agree, their first language would be more accurately described as pidgin. Bad pronunciation, spelling, grammar and any use of text-speak are glaring signs of mental laziness which is a highly unattractive quality. GD - you honestly cannot tell me that the Australian word of 'undies' sounds better than the word 'panties'? I think 'knickers' is more European... Similarly, I wouldn't say that 'g-string' sounds more appealing than 'thong', although I do understand that thong has more than one reference over here.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'wannabyummymummy'I would say I am pretty tolerant of the odd mistake in grammar (after all it seems our school system as moved away from it's focus on it)If i am in chat or on msn typos happen a lot so you have to take that for what it is.In a message i am not going to go all school teacher and mark it out of 10 based on spelling mistakes and full stops but i do want it to a) make sense b) use full sentences and c) be actually worth reading and not full of text speak.I always make sure i proof read my messages and posts to try and cut down on mistakes but alas i am human and the odd one slips through (somebody spank me!!) Oh and midnight, you stole my line!! i was going to go with the grandma one, oh well first in first served as the saying goes........
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RHP User
14 years ago
...as I now know what to look for in the frozen foods section when I'm shopping in Queensland. | Quoting 'InAdditionTo' ...who don't even wear knickers in the winter? Surely that counts for something | The all new frozen morsels that are sure to please even the fussiest of gourmets...Lickety Split heat-n-eat treats! | Fly-buys and reward points...I want to too.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I'm discombobulated, there I was thinkng that this site was about linking like minded people who are looking for "sensual fun" or "friends with benefits". I must be on the wrong site, didn't realise this was the "Finding sex partners who can spell" site. I'm pretty particular re: getting my spelling correct and using proper grammar, especially in business, because I believe that it demonstrates an individuals level of professionalism as well as their education. To at least run the spell checker over written communication isn't a huge effort. Oh hang on, there isn't one on this page is there??? But give a guy a break girls, are you looking for a lifelong mate, a business partner, or someone for a discreet shag?In this day and age we keep in touch much of the time from iPhones as much as the desk/laptop and you have to admit, they're not the best appliance to write an entirely legible, intelligent message from with the too small button images and unreliable cursor movement.Sure some of us guys might make the odd spelling or grammatical error, when they're very keen to make what they see as an intelligent contact with someone that they hope will appreciate it, but to lambast them for being unintelligent dopes or not worthy of your charms? Really, and you demand integrity and honesty from us? With the odds on these sites being so in favour of women over men, yep, I'll be the first to admit that we have to make an effort, but be fair and use some of that infamous female intiution to read betwen the lines, that the honest guy who may not be the best speller spews forth, from the tosser who can write up a storm in a few short lines. Hey, I realise your time is soooooo valuable, you're the one in control here, but you can ask a question of the poor dope, he may turn out to be a great shag and someone that can give you what you're lacking. Sorry I'm assuming you're lacking something or you wouldn't be on here, like us poor dopes.
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cbdlivin
14 years ago
With all this talk on spelling and grammar, I do find it important when I look at peoples profiles, as a well written profile tells me a lot about a person. When people send messages they can become a little over excited and of course the fingers never work as well on a keyboard when the wrong brain is engaged.That being said woman may look for a well written message but on a site like this that only gets you so far with the ratio of woman to men, the woman have the choice. They obviously exercise this choice not just some articulate message they get but more often and not it comes down to the visual and a woman can come like many men when they see a hot picture they forget about the requirement of a well written message.B
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RHP User
14 years ago
OP: Grammar covers words and punctuation and forms discourse; they correlate.I have been thinking about this and my current stance is that I have,no problem with:A few typo's and some punctuation missing.The use of slang/colloquialism's/jargon or abbreviations.I have an issue with, but would not reject someone on the basis of:The misuse and misspelling of common words (with the exception of cacography) Thanks HeedlessHorseman that was a new oneThe mispronunciation of simple words, Contradictory and uninformed statementsAbsence of any punctuation to the point where it interfere's with comprehension.Unless, it is intentional and playful like an in house joke or satirical....Hesione is right it is ever evolving and there is an art to it, I to love playing with letters/ words and sentences.And I have to confess to my own linguistic morphology- I often join 2 words together when the English lexicon is inadequate but on the down side I do it to synonym's as well; for e.g, I will call someone 'abnoxious' instead of 'obnoxious' because I am mixing it with 'abhorrent'. Drives me nuts!Joosedup I am less concerned with politeness and more concerned with knowledge seeking and sharing which I see as 'bebiggering' not 'belittling' :) (haha word morph) and I am appreciative when someone picks up on my mistake's and let's me know.Cass xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
In this modern world, people tend to do things in a fast pace. Thus, sentences got shortened into phrases, Phrases into word .. word into letters and god knows wtf is going on after. We all end up wandering... are we talking about the same thing here ? Anyways, common sense is always there to lead the way ... if you got loads of it. Good for you. if not ... just read ... if you don't get what the msg is trying to convey , delete n move on to the next msg in your inbox. Problem is solved !
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RHP User
14 years ago
Wooduck - loved your latest post here. It tells me a lot about your character and passion. I didn't even notice if there were typos or otherwise, I was too busy smiling at what you said. Herbal - actually, some of us are looking for a lot more than a shag, in which case compatability becomes more and more important. Regardless, I think pretty much everyone who has said spelling and grammar is important has also made it clear they're not bothered by the little things, but moreso by writing that makes it appear the writer doesn't care or doesn't have many brain cells. I don't think that sorting mechanism only comes into play because of the number of messages women get.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hey Woodluck I'll start with some throat clearing and state that I not sure I agree with myself with this thought but thought I would put it out there as it just came to mind. Could it be possible, that an alternative reason for the instant judgment brought upon you because of grammar may be because there will always be people in society who without any particular expertise of their own, will dismiss others based on their spelling and grammar and that they do this because they feel the need to feel superior to someone in something. Language may be the only thing they can do it in as it is the only currency common to us all? I'm not suggesting that you would want to do this, but it would be hard for you to dismiss people because they are un or undereducated when it comes to engine overhauls and electrical rewires, which you have expertise in. It is great to read in your last post that you have pride in your accomplishments and that should be the case. I don't mean this as a derogatory statement in any way. I just mean it as an observation, but when it comes to social interactions in a text based forum like this, your expertise no matter how brilliant, is not is a common currency that others will appreciate whereas language is. It may be that simple? Again, I agree 99.9% with lil_bit_angelic's comments (becoming a bigger fan) regarding looking for like. The research on this is quite thorough and well advanced. Relationships between people with a similar level of education etc, are generally happier and longer lasting and even if people don't know the research, they generally feel it, if only at an unconscious level. So it makes sense for educated people to look for indications of similarity. Again I don't want this to sound derogatory. It does not follow however, that uneducated = unintelligent. Spelling and grammar are not good indicators of cognitive function in people who didn't finish school as your accomplishments in your career clearly show. Your expertise outweighs anyone else on this forum in many areas. I work with highly educated people everyday and I am amazed at the unintelligent statements that come out people mouths at a constant rate. Conversly, some of the most intelligent, broadly read and curious people I have met have been bus drivers and manual labourers who left school at 16. To end with a cliche. Books shouldn't be judged by their covers or fruits by their colours. We all have our own strong and weak points. Unfortunately spelling and grammar comes to the fore in a written forum like this and with no other peripheral indicators to judge intelligence, unfortunately, people will pounce.
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Mr_MrsJones
14 years ago
A while back I posted a topic about people who have spelling and grammar errors in their profile. Of course I made several spelling mistakes in my post even though I always read through before pressing the 'post' button. Some anally retentive people thought it was hilarious to point out every tiny error to me. I learned my lesson. Spelling mistakes and using there instead of their etc bug the crap out of me but I no longer correct people. Having said that I still think that for profiles you should make the best effort to get it right. Get someone who can string two words together and passed year 12 English to read it through for you. It is your face to the world. Taking care to make it the best it can be shows you care. Kind of like not going to dinner in your thongs and stubbies. But if you are truly happy with it and really don't care then who am I to judge. I will just be gritting my teeth reading it and unless it is witty or attention grabbing in some way, probably not giving it justice. Forum posts are another thing. When giving a comment you don't have the time to put in that amount of effort and I think that is cool. Again most forum posters have something to say and that comes through regardless of grammar. Unless you speak in some street jargon with a whole lot of slang, or text speak that I haven't seen before and then I will be saying WTF?
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RHP User
14 years ago
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
I like words. I like them more when they're put together properly. This discussion reminded me of a blog post I came across when researching my last assignment:http://www.copyblogger.com/5-common-mistakes-that-make-you-look-dumb/"Five Grammatical Errors that Make You Look Dumb"One thing blogging and good copywriting share is a conversational style, and that means it’s fine to fracture the occasional rule of proper grammar in order to communicate effectively. Both bloggers and copywriters routinely end sentences with prepositions, dangle a modifier in a purely technical sense, or make liberal use of the ellipsis when an EM dash is the correct choice—all in order to write in the way people actually speak. But there are other mistakes that can detract from your credibility. While we all hope what we have to say is more important than some silly grammatical error, the truth is some people will not subscribe or link to your blog if you make dumb mistakes when you write, and buying from you will be out of the question. -----------------------------------Now, you might argue that profiles, messages and forum posts are not copywriting or blogs or anything of a vaguely professional nature... And they might not be for you, but they are for me. I'm the sort of person who has an apoplexy when she sees a misplaced apostrophe on a business sign; I judge films on their dialogue and plot construction - not just the actor's good looks and the quality of the CGI; I automatically correct people when they say "bored of" (it's supposed to be "bored with"!). Face it - if the written word isn't your thing do you really want to hang out with me? Cheers,MS
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RHP User
14 years ago
Would you kindly tell us - well at least me - what the 5 mistakes are? I'm dead curious now :)
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'CityCat89' Quoting 'stuckinthemiddle' Quoting 'CityCat89' Anyone who knows the correct use of "you're" and "your", and can tell the difference between "their", "they're" and "there" is halfway to getting into my panties :) "Your" is second person singular possessive "You're" is the contraction of the second person singular (or plural) article and the verb "to be" "Their" is third person plural possessive "They're" is the contraction of the third person plural article and the verb "to be", but can also be used as a gender-neutral third person singular. "There" can be used as an adverb, verb, or pronoun Now...tell me more about those panties : ) xx StuckStuck - there's no need to tell you about the panties - they've come all the way off! Haha, I knew being anally-retentive about grammar would come in handy someday.This right here is what we need to be telling kids to get them to pay attention in English class: "With the awesome power of grammar, you can make panties drop like flies. So get conjugating those verbs, kids, and the lovin' will soon follow!"xx Stuck
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RHP User
14 years ago
Wooduck,there are different forms of intelligence,emotional intelligence is emerging as the big one.People like to show thier larnin' by taking a somewhat superior approach to those that don't have the same experiences or similar opportunities. I would take a good heart over a sharp tongue and mind any day. Information is readily available at your fingertips,Mr.Google and Mr.Bing are amazing friends. Wooduck be confident in who you are,honestly why would you want to be friends with anyone so shallow they would judge you for the lack of a comma. Puhleese.!!x Hugs H
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
Quoting 'lil_bit_angelic' Would you kindly tell us - well at least me - what the 5 mistakes are? I'm dead curious now :)But just for you I'll post them here ;)1. Your vs. You’re This one drives me insane, and it’s become extremely common among bloggers. All it takes to avoid this error is to take a second and think about what you’re trying to say. “Your” is a possessive pronoun, as in “your car” or “your blog.” “You’re” is a contraction for “you are,” as in “you’re screwing up your writing by using your when you really mean you are.” 2. It’s vs. Its This is another common mistake. It’s also easily avoided by thinking through what you’re trying to say. “It’s” is a contraction of “it is” or “it has.” “Its” is a possessive pronoun, as in “this blog has lost its mojo.” Here’s an easy rule of thumb—repeat your sentence out loud using “it is” instead. If that sounds goofy, “its” is likely the correct choice. 3. There vs. Their This one seems to trip up everyone occasionally, often as a pure typo. Make sure to watch for it when you proofread. “There” is used many ways, including as a reference to a place (“let’s go there”) or as a pronoun (“there is no hope”). “Their” is a plural possessive pronoun, as in “their bags” or “their opinions.” Always do the “that’s ours!” test—are you talking about more than one person and something that they possess? If so, “their” will get you there. 4. Affect vs. Effect To this day I have to pause and mentally sort this one out in order to get it right. As with any of the other common mistakes people make when writing, it’s taking that moment to get it right that makes the difference. “Affect” is a verb, as in “Your ability to communicate clearly will affect your income immensely.” “Effect” is a noun, as in “The effect of a parent’s low income on a child’s future is well documented.” By thinking in terms of “the effect,” you can usually sort out which is which, because you can’t stick a “the” in front of a verb. While some people do use “effect” as a verb (“a strategy to effect a settlement”), they are usually lawyers, and you should therefore ignore them if you want to write like a human. 5. The Dangling Participle The dangling participle may be the most egregious of the most common writing mistakes. Not only will this error damage the flow of your writing, it can also make it impossible for someone to understand what you’re trying to say. Check out these two examples from Tom Sant’s book Persuasive Business Proposals: After rotting in the cellar for weeks, my brother brought up some oranges. Uhh… keep your decomposing brother away from me! Featuring plug-in circuit boards, we can strongly endorse this server’s flexibility and growth potential. Hmmm… robotic copy written by people embedded with circuit boards. Makes sense. The problem with both of the above is that the participial phrase that begins the sentence is not intended to modify what follows next in the sentence. However, readers mentally expect it to work that way, so your opening phrase should always modify what immediately follows. If it doesn’t, you’ve left the participle dangling, as well as your readers.copied from http://www.copyblogger.com/5-common-mistakes-that-make-you-look-dumb/Cheers,MS
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RHP User
14 years ago
We are all human though and if I wasn't taken, I could take a charming yet illiterate Jackeroo that swore like a truck driver, could make me laugh til it hurt and who had moments of pure ingenuity and passion, and marry him in boots ;)To me it's not so much about punctuation, it's more about the creativity of what's expressed and punctuation assists that and also show's attention to detail. Taking what's in your head and heart and expressing it (written or verbal) so that another can best understand you is a skill and helps human interaction, connection and sexual relations. I am practising oral atm haha I mean the verbal side ;) which to me is 10 x harder than writing. 'than' not 'then' ;)My petty hate is 'must/could/would/should of' when it should be 'must/could/would/should have'! Hehe, I had to relearn those one's. I say 'Chrizmas' instead of 'Christmas' which drives me mental- still working on that one; my partner thinks it's cute! Mr and Mrs Jones I am self educated- just couldn't fit in at school. However, I could correct most anyone's work, * :)* Except maybe MS' though I doubt that would be necessary.Callisto- I agree. Intelligence, personality, interpersonal and social skills are about psychology and are not dependent on academics but on learning in general + having a brain that works and using it. :)Quoting 'hallmark' more sex less talking what alot of bull shitMore 'good to fantastic' sex please. The majority of which is mental...... metaphysical even.Cass xxx
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
A new topic suggestion: finish the above sentence without referring to 'sex'.The power of punctuation...Punctuation and grammar are sexy: what's not to like about conjugating, dangling and modifying?MS
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'MS_and_Geek' I like words. I like them more when they're put together properly. This discussion reminded me of a blog post I came across when researching my last assignment:http://www.copyblogger.com/5-common-mistakes-that-make-you-look-dumb/"Five Grammatical Errors that Make You Look Dumb"One thing blogging and good copywriting share is a conversational style, and that means it’s fine to fracture the occasional rule of proper grammar in order to communicate effectively. Both bloggers and copywriters routinely end sentences with prepositions, dangle a modifier in a purely technical sense, or make liberal use of the ellipsis when an EM dash is the correct choice—all in order to write in the way people actually speak. But there are other mistakes that can detract from your credibility. While we all hope what we have to say is more important than some silly grammatical error, the truth is some people will not subscribe or link to your blog if you make dumb mistakes when you write, and buying from you will be out of the question. -----------------------------------Now, you might argue that profiles, messages and forum posts are not copywriting or blogs or anything of a vaguely professional nature... And they might not be for you, but they are for me. I'm the sort of person who has an apoplexy when she sees a misplaced apostrophe on a business sign; I judge films on their dialogue and plot construction - not just the actor's good looks and the quality of the CGI; I automatically correct people when they say "bored of" (it's supposed to be "bored with"!). Face it - if the written word isn't your thing do you really want to hang out with me? Cheers,MS Hey MS it seems we frequent the same blog. He forgot a couple that really irritate me and if you look closely you may find me in the comments :)Mr C
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RHP User
14 years ago
While I am a man of many talents , writing is a key part of how I make a living at the moment. Anyone who writes any sort of professional communication however will know that proof reading is essential even for the best of us.I've definitely made mistakes here ranging from typos, to mis-edits (like changing part of a paragraph with impact to the rest), to statements that that are ambiguous or give the wrong impression. It would never happen at work, but this is a quick and informal forum, and mistakes will happen. Among other things I write for a couple of blogs, and while they are more important they are also somewhat informal, and often need minor updates or corrections post publication.I've also known a number of very clever people with exceptional verbal skills but that struggle to put a written sentence together. A couple have been Dyslexic, a couple self taught and many with English as a second language.The other problem with written communication is the absence of both verbal and non-verbal clues to tone and emotion. It's very easy to be misunderstood when the reader can't see your smile or frown, or hear the subtle (or not so subtle) highlights in your voice. Very good writers can convey delicate and subtle meaning given some time, but here we must rely on clumsy emoticons.I love the written word, but I would never rely on it alone to determine the suitability of a friend, penpal or playmate. A clumsily worded but insightful comment will make a bigger impression than elegantly expressed nonsense.Mr C(speaking for himself - Mrs C adopts a zero tolerance policy for double negatives, possessive pronouns as contractions, dangling participles, and most of all for losers who are too loose with their txt)
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'chickcara' A clumsily worded but insightful comment will make a bigger impression than elegantly expressed nonsense.Mr C(speaking for himself - Mrs C adopts a zero tolerance policy for double negatives, possessive pronouns as contractions, dangling participles, and most of all for losers who are too loose with their txt)Your woman is correct and you're a lucky man :) It's great to see one care about its principles. :) Gee I hope that's right and I dare not use a dangling participle in fact I might try steer clear of phrases altogether. Oh bugger that still leaves double negatives- I will speak in one word sentences only. Yes. No. Stop! Wait! or Go! ;)Cass xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
For me the issue is nothing more than an indicator, and a damn reliable one generally speaking.There are three interrelated concepts for me here.I like women who think, not just who can think, but actually do. More specifically, I like women who can engage in an advanced degree of logical and critical thought. An intrinsic understanding of cause and effect, or causality or consequence or common sense, whatever you wish to call it.The English language is phenomenal, the glorious fun you can have with it is one of the things that sees me through each day.It is not my first language, it is however my favourite because I personally believe it has the greatest potential for humour and linguistic beauty. If you laugh so hard you think your socks will never dry watching A Bit of Fry & Laurie, you probably dig what I'm throwin' down yo.Finally, I am Captain Subtext. I rarely say anything that has but one meaning and am utterly incapable of giving voice to my desires without first breaking out the wigs and false noses of the Linguistic Camouflage Department (TM). The dance is everything, touché a cry of ecstasy. The greatest thrill I get from interaction with a lady is when they read between the lines and not only see the tiger in the undergrowth but leap onto its back and ride it into the sunset. Er, figuratively speaking. Or do I mean euphemistically? Depends on the cheekbones I guess.Point is that the mental aspect is the majority of the attraction for me, I like to know I can amuse and be amused, that we can keep the discomfort to a minimum. If that's not there then we're probably better off expending our efforts elsewhere. How a person uses language is the initial (though by no means only or final) determinant of this.Now, let us consider the first contact.It's a mini-date. There. I said it. I doubt I'm the first, and I won't be the last. Does it sting? Suck it up, life is pain. Let us assume I'm on the money and proceed accordingly.You want to look your amazing, hopefully not come across as a total knob or knobette, and secretly you're hoping that this person will be the one that makes you forget the rest of the universe exists (all right, steady on, put the claws down, I said secretly didn't I? Ok, let's split the difference and just say '... secretly you are hoping that this person isn't utterly insane or pastel-bathmat boring'. Moving on).In short, you want to ensure that, should you choose to pursue the opportunity (nee crisis) in front of you, you have a full tank and the power-plant is singing softly and sweetly, ready to propel you into the heavens at the bat of an eyelash. All your mallards are of a linear disposition.I mean, you're hardly going to turn up in satin dress trousers, patent leather pumps and a string wifebeater. Er, unless you're going to a rave. Let's assume you're not going to a rave as it doesn't exactly do my rather shaky and rambling analogy any favours at this stage.Yet this is what happens. Someone sends you a picture that probably took several attempts, some nail-biting, numerous wardrobe changes and maybe even some furtive fumbling in Photoshop to produce (again, illustrative purposes, let me have this one), and what accompanies it?Dross. They written equivalent of rummaging blindly about in the laundry and flinging the first thing your fingers close around in the general direction of the target. Might be freshly laundered black silk, but far more likely to be an unfortunate fistful of kitty litter, lint and jodhpurs fresh from the horse's back.Of course some people might prefer such hurtling toward them (and power to them, particularly if they're smart enough to mention their predilection in their profile), but is that a gamble you really wish to rely on?Now, as if that (somewhat shambolic, I do apologise) hypothesis isn't enough, I submit for your consideration, The Technological Element.You are here. You are using the internet. You probably heard of Google. If you're using Firefox you probably have an inbuilt spell-checker that loves to befoul your exquisite efforts with these cursed red squiggles whenever an American believes you're using a made up word (like shambolic). If you're as anal as I am you will have several dictionaries and a thesaurus or two in your favourites bar and be constantly clicking 'Add to Dictionary'.The point is, it would take you all of a minute to vet your submission prior to firing it off. We have the tools! We can be faster! Smarter! Stronger! Smelling more like roses and Bolli! If one can't be bothered to even take that minute on their mini-date, how could we possibly trust them with our erogenous bits? Let alone our H-word. And as for letting them lay hands on our 1000cc's of pure, handmade, Italian perfection/distilled death...The tech may not accurately tell you which their/they're/there you should be using or the difference between 'loose' and 'lose', but it can still fix a multitude of sins for all its shortcomings, and more importantly, it is not the actual content or end product that matters, it is the mindset that produced it.So, listen closely here, the underlying issue is not spelling/grammar as a direct indicator of intellectual capacity. It is that that by failing to expend any effort on vetting, One indicates that either:A) One is incapable of recognising the pros and cons of doing so and hence any further interaction will in all likelihood result in a painful degree of eye-rolling, exasperated sighing, stunned silence or general disappointment and frustration as you watch them choke on their food, abuse the staff and wee on the light fittings (Consequential Thought aka Common Sense, a frighteningly endangered concept, and I for one have better things to do with my time than watch slow-motion train wrecks); orB) One doesn't really care (indicating unhealthy arrogance, sociopathic tendencies and/or nihilistic or self-destructive ideation).In either case, red flags and divers alarums abound. Here be dragons, safeties off or exfil asap.A note on ESL peeps: Fear not! Again, we are not expecting Shakespeare and a to be honest the merest mention of an accent (particularly Русский or Français) has my trousers exiting stage left in short order, sometimes before I've had a chance to determine what the sex of the speaker is let alone how cute or sharp they are.You get a pass, in fact you probably get a free-lifetime-all-access-platinum pass. You should really be handicapped given the horrendous lead you start with, but I for one am too busy trying to stop my voice breaking all over the shop or giggling inanely to give fairness much thought.Handy Hint: Make sure the object of your attentions is aware that you're foreign, mention your native language in your profile or initial contact. Problem solved.Anyway, I think I may have drifted a bit, certainly wasn't as concise as I'd originally envisaged, but I am sort of hoping that the I may have made some sense. The point I was trying to make was that while not everyone expects perfection or Proust (Hahahahahaha! See what I did there! Fuck you Proust! Hahahahahahahaha! Ahem. Apologies) most do expect evidence of basic consideration, an absence of such does not bode well...TTFN!J
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RHP User
14 years ago
Just had a man message me for a date including scrabble- he gets a yes lol!!! I suggest a nice hotel, naked scrabble on the the floor and champagne- am I weird to find that exciting"More sex less talking: What a lot of bullshit..." I thought the context was writing/typing :PCass xxx
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
Can't we just read some erotic fiction to each other and then go crazy? :P Quoting 'multiples_xxx' Just had a man message me for a date including scrabble- he gets a yes lol!!! I suggest a nice hotel, naked scrabble on the the floor and champagne- am I weird to find that exciting"More sex less talking: What a lot of bullshit..." I thought the context was writing/typing :PCass xxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
Thank you everyone for you're feedback it was "great".I don't take offence to peoples opinions far out if i did i don't think i would get up in the morning.Just didn't get why allot of people would judge & class a person over typed words.So does anyone want to be my English teacher you can spank me if i get it wrong
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RHP User
14 years ago
Far out !! I must have come across like a right "dumb arse" sometimes. Well I'm trying it just takes 1/2 an hour to write something now.
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RHP User
14 years ago
If women are soooo boring they have nothing better to do than point out punctuation and silly mistakes in spelling..I figure ..they must be just as boring in real life and pass over them. Obviously if its written like a 13 year old rapper,and i cant understand it, thats a bit different. Lots of great people couldnt spell to well..doesnt stop them from being great. same with people here...they might be dynamite lovers, and the boring spell chekers will never meet them...lol Bernie :)
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RHP User
14 years ago
If I prefer brunettes to blondes, are all the blondes going to go into fits of apoplexy over my sexual preference? If I have tattoos and a person I message says "I'm sorry I find tattoos very unattractive on women, I'm afraid you're just not my type," am I then obliged to publicly rant about the fact that I am being unfairly judged for something that is not the whole of my character, they just happen to show in my photos? If I work in a bookshop and spend more money on books than food, is it not fair enough that I value the power of the written word? My point being, I like words. They rip my proverbials. I find it interesting that some people are implying that it's not ok to prefer a languidly verbose lover (hence, the indirect criticism of my sexual preferences). Next it'll be all "Pick a gender you indecisive bitch, there is no such thing as bisexual." Oh, wait, I've had that one thrown at me, too! :P
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RHP User
14 years ago
.....Seem to matter very little as far as my profile goes.......... : (
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RHP User
14 years ago
I don't think it has a great deal to do with not being a native English speaker. If anything, most of the people I know who aren't put greater care into their writing.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I can overlook spelling and grammar if a person is actually trying to communicate but if I'm trying to establish sexual compatibility by asking someone to tell me about their sexual style, how they like to fuck, what turns them on or what they like to do and their answer is, "I'll make you cum over and over babe" - regardless of the spelling or punctuation - I'm going to assume we're not going to be compatible. If someone can't be bothered finding out if we like the same kind of sex before trying to get naked I'm willing to bet they don't know (or don't care) much about the female orgasm. It's 95% mental, 5% friction. Maybe this is why I like engineers so much?? Good core mathematical skills, desire to find out how things work..?
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RHP User
14 years ago
I like that one. Its so true and often overlooked.Tim Quoting 'MissSarahCurious'. It's 95% mental, 5% friction.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Its funny, Jane is a stickler for correct spelling and grammar. I am shockingly bad with first. So we get on each others nerves over it. But I do find myself picking up on Jane's over looked math errors from time to time to.We all shine in different areas. Another is when Jane is trying to word a message. I often find myself throwing in my two cents on what words to use and how to string them together and Jane tends to agree most of the time with my suggestions. So just knowing the formality's isn't the answer to everything. Just (perfect spelling) Isn't the complete picture to great communication. If what you have written is boring and perhaps doesn't communicate what your trying to say well.that said we both hate bogan words like youse , wadaya, Satdy, Sundy, Mondy, and so on. Big alarm bells start ringing when we get a message containing them. Text talk gives us both the shits to.Some times I can be lazy and wish to hell there was a edit feature on rhp forums. Usually when I read back over a post and find 100 mistakes and typos.Tim
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
I don't suppose you like discussing time paradoxes? Or the philosophy of determinism? Metaphysics? The insanity that was Heidegger and why sadistic lecurers continue to torture their students with "Being and Time" (and why masochistic students let them)??? Can we talk able why it's just as important to search for a Theory of Everything as it is to solve the mundane, day-to-day problems of energy production and the like? Want to help me proof-read an honours thesis about Tarski's Inconsistency Argument?*dissolves into a puddle of cerebral-orgasmic bliss*MS Quoting 'Narcissist' For me the issue is nothing more than an indicator, and a damn reliable one generally speaking.There are three interrelated concepts for me here.I like women who think, not just who can think, but actually do. More specifically, I like women who can engage in an advanced degree of logical and critical thought. An intrinsic understanding of cause and effect, or causality or consequence or common sense, whatever you wish to call it.The English language is phenomenal, the glorious fun you can have with it is one of the things that sees me through each day.It is not my first language, it is however my favourite because I personally believe it has the greatest potential for humour and linguistic beauty. If you laugh so hard you think your socks will never dry watching A Bit of Fry & Laurie, you probably dig what I'm throwin' down yo.Finally, I am Captain Subtext. I rarely say anything that has but one meaning and am utterly incapable of giving voice to my desires without first breaking out the wigs and false noses of the Linguistic Camouflage Department (TM). The dance is everything, touché a cry of ecstasy. The greatest thrill I get from interaction with a lady is when they read between the lines and not only see the tiger in the undergrowth but leap onto its back and ride it into the sunset. Er, figuratively speaking. Or do I mean euphemistically? Depends on the cheekbones I guess.Point is that the mental aspect is the majority of the attraction for me, I like to know I can amuse and be amused, that we can keep the discomfort to a minimum. If that's not there then we're probably better off expending our efforts elsewhere. How a person uses language is the initial (though by no means only or final) determinant of this.Now, let us consider the first contact.It's a mini-date. There. I said it. I doubt I'm the first, and I won't be the last. Does it sting? Suck it up, life is pain. Let us assume I'm on the money and proceed accordingly.You want to look your amazing, hopefully not come across as a total knob or knobette, and secretly you're hoping that this person will be the one that makes you forget the rest of the universe exists (all right, steady on, put the claws down, I said secretly didn't I? Ok, let's split the difference and just say '... secretly you are hoping that this person isn't utterly insane or pastel-bathmat boring'. Moving on).In short, you want to ensure that, should you choose to pursue the opportunity (nee crisis) in front of you, you have a full tank and the power-plant is singing softly and sweetly, ready to propel you into the heavens at the bat of an eyelash. All your mallards are of a linear disposition.I mean, you're hardly going to turn up in satin dress trousers, patent leather pumps and a string wifebeater. Er, unless you're going to a rave. Let's assume you're not going to a rave as it doesn't exactly do my rather shaky and rambling analogy any favours at this stage.Yet this is what happens. Someone sends you a picture that probably took several attempts, some nail-biting, numerous wardrobe changes and maybe even some furtive fumbling in Photoshop to produce (again, illustrative purposes, let me have this one), and what accompanies it?Dross. They written equivalent of rummaging blindly about in the laundry and flinging the first thing your fingers close around in the general direction of the target. Might be freshly laundered black silk, but far more likely to be an unfortunate fistful of kitty litter, lint and jodhpurs fresh from the horse's back.Of course some people might prefer such hurtling toward them (and power to them, particularly if they're smart enough to mention their predilection in their profile), but is that a gamble you really wish to rely on?Now, as if that (somewhat shambolic, I do apologise) hypothesis isn't enough, I submit for your consideration, The Technological Element.You are here. You are using the internet. You probably heard of Google. If you're using Firefox you probably have an inbuilt spell-checker that loves to befoul your exquisite efforts with these cursed red squiggles whenever an American believes you're using a made up word (like shambolic). If you're as anal as I am you will have several dictionaries and a thesaurus or two in your favourites bar and be constantly clicking 'Add to Dictionary'.The point is, it would take you all of a minute to vet your submission prior to firing it off. We have the tools! We can be faster! Smarter! Stronger! Smelling more like roses and Bolli! If one can't be bothered to even take that minute on their mini-date, how could we possibly trust them with our erogenous bits? Let alone our H-word. And as for letting them lay hands on our 1000cc's of pure, handmade, Italian perfection/distilled death...The tech may not accurately tell you which their/they're/there you should be using or the difference between 'loose' and 'lose', but it can still fix a multitude of sins for all its shortcomings, and more importantly, it is not the actual content or end product that matters, it is the mindset that produced it.So, listen closely here, the underlying issue is not spelling/grammar as a direct indicator of intellectual capacity. It is that that by failing to expend any effort on vetting, One indicates that either:A) One is incapable of recognising the pros and cons of doing so and hence any further interaction will in all likelihood result in a painful degree of eye-rolling, exasperated sighing, stunned silence or general disappointment and frustration as you watch them choke on their food, abuse the staff and wee on the light fittings (Consequential Thought aka Common Sense, a frighteningly endangered concept, and I for one have better things to do with my time than watch slow-motion train wrecks); orB) One doesn't really care (indicating unhealthy arrogance, sociopathic tendencies and/or nihilistic or self-destructive ideation).In either case, red flags and divers alarums abound. Here be dragons, safeties off or exfil asap.A note on ESL peeps: Fear not! Again, we are not expecting Shakespeare and a to be honest the merest mention of an accent (particularly Русский or Français) has my trousers exiting stage left in short order, sometimes before I've had a chance to determine what the sex of the speaker is let alone how cute or sharp they are.You get a pass, in fact you probably get a free-lifetime-all-access-platinum pass. You should really be handicapped given the horrendous lead you start with, but I for one am too busy trying to stop my voice breaking all over the shop or giggling inanely to give fairness much thought.Handy Hint: Make sure the object of your attentions is aware that you're foreign, mention your native language in your profile or initial contact. Problem solved.Anyway, I think I may have drifted a bit, certainly wasn't as concise as I'd originally envisaged, but I am sort of hoping that the I may have made some sense. The point I was trying to make was that while not everyone expects perfection or Proust (Hahahahahaha! See what I did there! Fuck you Proust! Hahahahahahahaha! Ahem. Apologies) most do expect evidence of basic consideration, an absence of such does not bode well...TTFN!J
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RHP User
14 years ago
Now that's an interesting convergence...I did (very, very briefly) tango with an extraordinarily pretty young thing with whom I discovered the limits of philosophy thanks to time paradoxes.Specifically, she called me while I was on the other side of the planet asking if I could tell her the football results, her reasoning being that as I was eight hours ahead the match had already finished for me but hadn't yet started for her, and she wanted to make some quick and easy dosh with a bet or two.Took an hour-long teleconference, a friend with a whiteboard and a brood of drama students with finger puppets donating their time to explain to her why I couldn't fulfil her desires in this particular incidence.These days I tend to avoid time paradoxes as experience has taught me they're a good way to come home to find your suits covered in lipstick and treacle.Philosophy can be a sticky business...I believe the moral of the story is: Always invest in some area denial assets for your wardrobe. A padlock is a good start. An ADS if you can sneak one home. Thermobarics may be a bit much.TTFN!J Quoting 'MS_and_Geek' I don't suppose you like discussing time paradoxes? Or the philosophy of determinism? Metaphysics? The insanity that was Heidegger and why sadistic lecurers continue to torture their students with "Being and Time" (and why masochistic students let them)??? Can we talk able why it's just as important to search for a Theory of Everything as it is to solve the mundane, day-to-day problems of energy production and the like? Want to help me proof-read an honours thesis about Tarski's Inconsistency Argument?*dissolves into a puddle of cerebral-orgasmic bliss*MS
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RHP User
14 years ago
Oh, also the problem of energy production has been solved, it's called Thorium. ;)
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
Very well, we shall stick to Heidegger - you can be the Uber Mensch...*sulk*MS Quoting 'Narcissist' Oh, also the problem of energy production has been solved, it's called Thorium. ;)
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RHP User
14 years ago
I prefer Nietzsche's take on it but regardless, unfortunately for all concerned, while I have the Über well and truly sorted I do tend to take a nasty spill on the mensch I'm afraid.Unmenshlich is closer to the mark. Or possibly beschädigt. I can get a tonne of testimonials that I'm an Überkind if that's will do... No? Yeah, don't blame you.It's all fun and games until I throw a tanty and fling my lego about the place. Does tend to ruin the mood and lead to uncomfortable questions, like why do I even have lego in my underwear in the first place?TTFN!J Quoting 'MS_and_Geek' Very well, we shall stick to Heidegger - you can be the Uber Mensch...*sulk*MS
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
I realised my error after I posted. It's been a while since I've read an Continental philosophy - it was never my cup of tea anyway.As for lego in your pants - it could be worse. Or better ;)MS Quoting 'Narcissist' I prefer Nietzsche's take on it but regardless, unfortunately for all concerned, while I have the Über well and truly sorted I do tend to take a nasty spill on the mensch I'm afraid.Unmenshlich is closer to the mark. Or possibly beschädigt. I can get a tonne of testimonials that I'm an Überkind if that's will do... No? Yeah, don't blame you.It's all fun and games until I throw a tanty and fling my lego about the place. Does tend to ruin the mood and lead to uncomfortable questions, like why do I even have lego in my underwear in the first place?TTFN!J Quoting 'MS_and_Geek' Very well, we shall stick to Heidegger - you can be the Uber Mensch...*sulk*MS
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RHP User
14 years ago
I keep coming back to this thread just to see what you'll say next :) I don't really have fetishes but if I was to claim one it would be watching someone fully exercise their 'mental muscle' and maybe even joining in. Your posts made me drool!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Well done MS and Geek,Narcisist too.Always good to live up to your profile names. Gee Wooduck ,bet you sure are glad you asked that question. Visuals of course,add to the picture so to speak,and Geek you prove that point.x Hugs H
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RHP User
14 years ago
Did you know that Aussie Kids Have a large % of literacy problems in our schools ! Kids dont read books , but always abbreviate words on their mobile phones and use spell check on PC (lazy learning ) even when the phones spell it out for you, they still shorten it . Spelling and Grammar is old school . Take your concerns to the Education Board of Australian. lol I'm a average speller but consider myself not to be dumb ! lol I still take time to make clear messages by using the whole word . The lets Fuck! Fuck your Hot ! Just let me fuck you please , dont do it for me either ! I like some time and effort spent on messages too ! Unless .... I'm fucking myself on cam for someone to just sit an watch quitely, and typing short words like ... Ah YES ! I'm about to cum ! Ah YeS .. wowfuckiwantyounow!!! lol you well educated 20yrs plus ppl let me know if I'v made any spelling errors Quoting 'littlewings' imtoocooltobotherwithanyofthatshit
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'CityCat89' Anyone who knows the correct use of "you're" and "your", and can tell the difference between "their", "they're" and "there" is halfway to getting into my panties :) I think whosup4it must have looked up their meanings on line to make it so complicated. To put some of it in more understandable terms you're is a contraction of "you are" and they're is a contraction of "they are".That is, the apostrophe indicates there are characters missing. I do know the meanings of all the others too CityCat89, but as that would only get me half way there I would like to know what I need for the other half. I also know the different between there's which is contraction of "there is" or "there has" and theirs (which should never have an apostrophe).I also know the meanings of to, too and twoOne of the very common mistakes I see is except being used instead of accept. Does that get me any closer maybe i too far away from you.
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RogueGeek
14 years ago
I nearly ascended I was so content... If the mind-fuck is that good, what's the physical one like? :oPerhaps it is time to discuss the possibility of one following the other, and whether a cerebral orgasm is sufficient to bring about a physiological orgasm. Perhaps it is necessary? Is it true to say that for all instances of a physiological orgasm, a cerebral orgasm did proceed it? And if this is the case, does the cerebral orgasm cause the physiological orgasm, or is merely a preceeding, unrelated event that never-the-less always occurs?Cheers,MS Quoting 'lil_bit_angelic' I keep coming back to this thread just to see what you'll say next :) I don't really have fetishes but if I was to claim one it would be watching someone fully exercise their 'mental muscle' and maybe even joining in. Your posts made me drool!
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RHP User
14 years ago
It's good to be able to spell and punctuate correctly when you're posting your opinion. I just wish some people actually understood the meanings of some of the words they use. Just saying, is all.
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RHP User
14 years ago
people have to bitch about something.....and if they cant find anything in your post to disagree with, they'll pick on your grammar or spelling, or both. they are easy to spot too, they'll be the ones throwing the nasty comments around all the threads......
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RHP User
14 years ago
hmmm, I think it depends on what you're looking for. If your looking for a relationship then yes, it becomes highly important. You can tell a lot by the person, as many have already stated.On the flip side, I don't really mind if you omit punctuation, or your spelling is not 100%.All I care about is that you turn up, have fun, and are good at what you say you are good at. Chucking in a full stop here and a coma there doesn't reflect how good you are in bed... ( in my experience )
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