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safe sex vs bareback sex

April 06 2010

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ok...I know another topic about safe sex......I can see you all yawning now. First of all we are writing under a nom de plume. Why? So we dont get flamed from everyone. We have been in the "lifestyle" for almost 10 years now. In this time we have met up with ...um....about 50 cpls ( who counts hey?) Our question is- Why do so many cpl have "always for intercoarse" but then say its ok to go bareback? We are upfront with it. We have on our main profile "If required" We get tested alternately every 3 months. Quality over quantity is our moto. So yeah we love to play natural. This leeds us to another question. Why are so many people reluctant to get STD tests? Here is a msn chat from a few weeks ago. We all wanted to meet and play but when asked about sex habits and doing it bareback the following was said.....( we are in green ) would you guys be into getting a STD test (as we would) before meeting? we are clean & we would would like to meet you first we would know if we had any thing we are very carefull & we dont fuck every tom dick n harry nor do we but.....have you played unsafe with any one in the last six months?....We have. They were tested as were we but there is still the small percentage of risk there. Some STD remain undetected in the body more months at a time with out any signs.......Hope I dont sound all "big brother" here its just the best way to be safe....otherwise we play with condoms. When we meet cpls like the times we have gone to CI long pause in the convo... still there? sorry if I offended just getting the killjoy adult stuff out of the way...helps to start off on the same page ok - i understand your concern but we have been doing this for years & are tested when we want to be, i think we are into different scenes, we arent condom people we find that boring but we know our partners. i am not offended but i sense we are on different pages END. This is almost word for word. I did leave out some other stuff that wasnt relevant. Point is its crazy right? We love to play bareback but so many like the cpl above wont get tested and seem to have NFI about the risks. Regards Dorathy

Comments

  • Bubbaj

    Bubbaj

    16 years ago

    i think they dont like being pricked and then having being told to pee in a jar :)but in this day and age where the tests are free, there should be a regular check up for ppl in this scene for anything could happen whether there are signs or not. if people intend on bareback then all parties should be tested just to "make sure" and have some reassurance. Unfortunately this is coming a bit close to home for i have a friend who found out that they have an std and the person they suspect it to be giving it to them, is always busy to talk or just ignoring them. so much for trust there!should have like a barcode/chip in us that can say whether someone is "clean or not"...now wouldnt life be THAT much easier!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Hmmm Dorothy has two "o". People prefer bareback and don't wanna be tested. That's why the clap is on the rise again. People don't always recognise the symptoms either.... and if you have the clap it makes it a whole lot easier to contract HIV. Knowing all of this still people bareback with veritable strangers. It just happens. Your head says no but your body says don't stop now even if it is only for 20 seconds to slp on a condom. It's a weak moment.... or intentional disregard. Plenty of promiscuous people with HIV happily spread it around because they don't know they've got it or don't want to know if they've got it. Oral sex with strange women? A big risk of an STD yet nobody ever uses a dam. You'd have to be absolutely stupid not to get tested regularly if you are into the scene. Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I get tested every 3 months. I keep my results in my filing cabinet drawer at work and I offer to show them to my FBs. BUT... I have only known ONE man off RHP who gets tested as regularly (in fact it was him that prompted me to start doing the same). I'm rather fed up with being very open about getting tested and all the guy says is (and this is serious): "How many guys are you having unprotected sex with " ? They really don't get it ! It's not about the number of guys !!! Or even whether I'm using condoms or not (and no, I don't always use them). I'm starting to think I'll request test results before I engage in any FWB type relationship. Sure it takes away spontaneity but guys seem to forget (a lot of them anyway) that I need to protect my health. If only everyone was as considerate of each other. Perhaps there could be a new section on our profiles saying "Do you get regularly tested for STIs" ? xx Saturn

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Testing in my eyes is a must when riding bareback. I don’t seem to follow a regular pattern when it comes to tests, I get tested after every two or three different partners. This could be a couple of testes within 3 months, then sometimes once in 6 months depending on how much action I get, but I don’t leave it any longer then that unless I have had no action after my last test. I always ask my partners if they have been regularly tested before unsheathing the member for a bareback session, otherwise it’s on with the bang bag. Now that all the test talk is over, I find bareback a lot more enjoyable, it’s sexier, it’s hotter and a huge turn on for both making the session much more intense and climatic! Just be honest, and have fun!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    "we are clean & we would would like to meet you firstwe would know if we had any thing we are very carefull& we dont fuck every tom dick n harry"How bloody naive can you get.......!!!!!Wear the condoms ffs!!! Cheers nev

  • RedHotCoast

    RedHotCoast

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'Miss_Saturn' Perhaps there could be a new section on our profiles saying "Do you get regularly tested for STIs" ? xx Saturn RHP could do this in their next upgrade to the site TESTED? Yes- with printout or No- Not tested.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'Miss_Saturn' I'm rather fed up with being very open about getting tested and all the guy says is (and this is serious): "How many guys are you having unprotected sex with " ? They really don't get it ! It's not about the number of guys !!! Or even whether I'm using condoms or not (and no, I don't always use them). I'm starting to think I'll request test results before I engage in any FWB type relationship. welll... I agree, but to some extent you aren't getting it eitherThe question that actually gives some certainty is "have you fucked anyone bareback in the last 3 months?"You might have been getting clean tests every 3 months for the past 10 years, but that gives no assurances about the what happened since your last test (or rather, since anything had time to develop to a point where it would be detected in a test). Not meaning to single you out Saturn, just adding my 2 cents.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    You're not exactly right either. By reason that you can get a false negative test result for HIV within 6 weeks of contracting it and a false negative for Syphalis within 3 weeks.... the question to ask is "did you have any unprotected sexual contact since your last test or within in 6 weeks prior to it".... just saying.... your test schedule should by tailored to your risk profile established in consultation with the sex clinic. Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I must say firstly I have never had sex without a condom but I did break out in a cold sweat when you mentioned a dam. In that moment of weakness, on both sides, we risked our health, our lives. We didn't take a time-out and it was our first meet. Since then I have been tested, more than six weeks later and phew all clear. But reading your post still caused that hot flush and sweating, anxiety causes, just remembering that incident. Never tempt fate..reminds me of an old Bill Cosby joke.."Things can't get any worse' and god declares in a loud voice "WORSE" Think a microchip is a brilliant idea Bubbaj ...but then we'd all need scanners...lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I'm not trying to scare anybody. If we all got regular tests then the incidence of STD's would certainly fall dramatically. If you fuck anyone at all... it is a reasonably responsible thing to do to that you should also get tested regularly. The point is.. for some of us.... 6 weeks an mean a lot of partners.... some safe... some risky encounters... and testing every two or three months regularly is the only effective response.... I mean... who can hang around and wait without sex for clear six weeks and then get tested?? Struth!... No way. The only answer is to get tested at regular intervals no matter when you had that unsafe encounter.. ... take this one step further... who can wait a whole week for teh test results?? Damn. No way... demand the results in 3 days.. lolz.. not that it would stop you.... "oh sorry... I wont fuck you until Friday because Im waiting for my test results" .... ooopers... Not a chance... If you have sex with anyone but your regular partner... you are having unsafe sex.. condoms help... but are not a sure bet. Regular testing and a genuine effort to play safe is the only viable procedure. Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Mrs hereWe both get tested regularly and practise safe sex, we have been contacted by couples who have said that they only play bare back to them we have always said 'thanks but no thanks'Last week when I went to the doctor I had a different doctor then my normal wonderful understanding doctor. When I asked for some STD tests this doctor replied "Do you have any symptoms?" I said no, he then asked why I wanted the tests done. I explained that my husband and I are swingers and although we always use condoms we get tested regularly. He then went on to tell me that a negative test in my situation is really a false negative and that by having a HIV test the results could really "impact on your lifestyle and your ability to get medical and life insurance" I replied "Of course it would impact." He then reminded me again that a negative result in my situation is only a false negative. I was very angered by this doctors attitude ... I think if I was younger he would have talked me out getting a test and with doctors like that it is no wonder that people don't get tested. Stalky normally you bug me on threads with all your talk of licking arm pits but when it comes to safe sex you are spot on and people should listen to your advise.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Well, sorry to bug you but I really do like to lick armpits, and I know it's disgusting but it turns me on. I also use a sex clinic because it is free and the doctors are not judgmental and really know their stuff... unlike the doc who attempted to misinform you. It is possible to live with HIV and it is better to know and treat it than to not know and spread it around your loved ones. I'd be complaining to your reg GP about that dude... it's that sort of advice that verges on gross negligence. Hugs Gaz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Yeah we all love bareback but it should be reserved for eclusive relationship not when multiple partners are concerned. Responsibility should be a priority.... A nasty disease is a lifetime sentence......why should we suffer when it is so preventable...... Even kissing is a threat........ enough to put me right off being intimate with someone.....with the constant fear of catching something nasty... More annoying is the fact that so many of us take precautions and look after our well being not just for ourselves but for everyone concerned and then there are so many that just don't care or think they are invincible and can never cach anything...and never get tested. I think Im going to be asking for test results...... mine are available for you to see and if you don't also have current results then im out..... Yes, I have condoms too, just incase you don't have any!!! Hell, maybe a dam even!!! Hey, it's all about quality and not quantity for me..... Lets stay happy and healthy so we can have lots of fun for a long time to come!!! Love Miss naughty xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    N here I was thinking you talkin bout long distance phone calls.. Yeah sure temptation runs wild sometimes but common sense comes way up above the simple pleasures of a trusted fb, hmmm think I'll trust my good ole toys to bareback with... At Least I know where they've been with me.. or in me?? and in where and ummm did I remember to wash them.... hmmm??... Time for a scrub guys... Yay bath time, okies who's first??.. hehe Pixie... Aimee... Dunna??? Confused alteregos

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'stalky' Well, sorry to bug you but I really do like to lick armpits, and I know it's disgusting but it turns me on. I also use a sex clinic because it is free and the doctors are not judgmental and really know their stuff... unlike the doc who attempted to misinform you. It is possible to live with HIV and it is better to know and treat it than to not know and spread it around your loved ones. I'd be complaining to your reg GP about that dude... it's that sort of advice that verges on gross negligence. Hugs Gaz I would love to go to a sex clinic but when you live in rural Australia it is not an always an option and I think that is what makes this doctors attitude much worse because he is more likely to come across people who don;t have the option to go elsewhere.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    For a start the 90's called they want the word 'flame' back. Secondly if you were to get 'flamed' you still have to read all the mean things people write about you. But i wont write something mean. Thirdly I think it's a shame the state of the forums these days that people have to create false accounts just to post a topic. I stopped writing on the forums cause I kept getting bullied by this mean bitch from ... anyway. I don't think she's on RHP anymore, her ass collapsed due to excess load or she was banned for g string abuse! Right as for your topic. As a couple Sal and I tend to gravitate to parents or couples in long term relationships who are light swingers, no smokers, no drug takers who perhaps play once or twice a month. If we were dealing with those type, talking about bareback should be just a chat after the first meet. I think if your opening conversation on MSN is about everyone getting tested and comparing results and a two hour tafe course on the dangers of un-protected sex is jumping the gun a tad and would scare off many people as it would seem in your conversation transcript. I would be mortified if some douche-bag kept banging on about the dangers of STI transmissions and that they can be dormant for so many months, when it was him who suggested bareback in the first place. I would think cheeky shit, we were happy to play with doms, now you want to change the rules and make me follow your guidelines. You get tested, if it makes you feel better, I'll put on a condom and get tested when I"m good and ready. Doesn't mean I"m against getting tested, it just means that if you say jump I'm not going to say 'how high' I in theory don't know you, why would I, i'm not you sheep? Look at it another way. What if I've just had a test say it's two weeks old and then I meet you and you say, hey can you get a recent STI test done now, am I obliged to do as I'm told, or should I submit a list of my last few lovers since my last test? YOu see it's all getting rather silly. We've all read the pamphlet when we signed up to be swingers and we all understand the risks. Sal and I would only go there if we thought that these people would be long term playmates and perhaps even friends (is there anybody out there) People who had a higher than normal capacity for self preservation and of course a healthy sense of humour about fanny farts, erectile disfunction in group situations and creampies hot or not? And to answer your question, why do people put safe sex 'always' on their profile then when you meet them they change their mind.YOu can look at it two ways these people want to keep their options open, plus if they do play bareback wouldn't it be best to keep that under their hats and speak it instead of having it written on their profile. Secondly as safe sex is expected most people will select it on their profile for fear of being labelled un-responsable swingers. Saying you 'never' use condoms is just blacklisting yourself in the community. Why tell the world that your willing to go bareback when they can broach the subject in private if they thought you were worthy of an bareback mount. I'm not sure what Sal and I have on our profile, perhaps were have 'sometimes' perhaps we have 'always' but either way you'll only find out on the night. Going bareback, is a very special thing, it's rare and not for everyone. For me it's like birthdays and Christmas, once in a blue moon and only with the right package. Andy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Quoting 'Salina79' For a start the 90's called they want the word 'flame' back. Secondly if you were to get 'flamed' you still have to read all the mean things people write about you. But i wont write something mean. Thirdly I think it's a shame the state of the forums these days that people have to create false accounts just to post a topic. I stopped writing on the forums cause I kept getting bullied by this mean bitch from ... anyway. I don't think she's on RHP anymore, her ass collapsed due to excess load or she was banned for g string abuse! Right as for your topic. As a couple Sal and I tend to gravitate to parents or couples in long term relationships who are light swingers, no smokers, no drug takers who perhaps play once or twice a month. If we were dealing with those type, talking about bareback should be just a chat after the first meet. I think if your opening conversation on MSN is about everyone getting tested and comparing results and a two hour tafe course on the dangers of un-protected sex is jumping the gun a tad and would scare off many people as it would seem in your conversation transcript. I would be mortified if some douche-bag kept banging on about the dangers of STI transmissions and that they can be dormant for so many months, when it was him who suggested bareback in the first place. I would think cheeky shit, we were happy to play with doms, now you want to change the rules and make me follow your guidelines. You get tested, if it makes you feel better, I'll put on a condom and get tested when I"m good and ready. Doesn't mean I"m against getting tested, it just means that if you say jump I'm not going to say 'how high' I in theory don't know you, why would I, i'm not you sheep? Look at it another way. What if I've just had a test say it's two weeks old and then I meet you and you say, hey can you get a recent STI test done now, am I obliged to do as I'm told, or should I submit a list of my last few lovers since my last test? YOu see it's all getting rather silly. We've all read the pamphlet when we signed up to be swingers and we all understand the risks. Sal and I would only go there if we thought that these people would be long term playmates and perhaps even friends (is there anybody out there) People who had a higher than normal capacity for self preservation and of course a healthy sense of humour about fanny farts, erectile disfunction in group situations and creampies hot or not? And to answer your question, why do people put safe sex 'always' on their profile then when you meet them they change their mind.YOu can look at it two ways these people want to keep their options open, plus if they do play bareback wouldn't it be best to keep that under their hats and speak it instead of having it written on their profile. Secondly as safe sex is expected most people will select it on their profile for fear of being labelled un-responsable swingers. Saying you 'never' use condoms is just blacklisting yourself in the community. Why tell the world that your willing to go bareback when they can broach the subject in private if they thought you were worthy of an bareback mount. I'm not sure what Sal and I have on our profile, perhaps were have 'sometimes' perhaps we have 'always' but either way you'll only find out on the night. Going bareback, is a very special thing, it's rare and not for everyone. For me it's like birthdays and Christmas, once in a blue moon and only with the right package. Andy safe for all situations. even make the ex. could possibly explain the lack of sex but i will still be alivein 40 years. and possibly miserable but still alive........ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaEarl

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    i get checked regularly and i am all clean... nothing wrong with it

  • DonnaBrett

    DonnaBrett

    16 years ago

    If it's NOT on...it's NOT on!!!