F65
Would you....?
November 04 2011
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RHP User
14 years ago
I have a general rule..... if it flies, floats or fucks, then rent it. Don't buy it. Buying shares in airlines therefore is risky business and I have no loyalty... not since Ansett collapsed taking with it many thousands of dollars worth of my hard earned frequent flier points.... and I think I bought shares in HIH insurance as well as Ansett round about that time. Who could be impressed by an Irish prick who gives himself a $2m bonus and at the same time denies a pissy paypacket increase to Australians.... promising nothing but to take the business and the jobs off shore? If you own shares, sell, sell, sell. Lmfao. What a freaking disgrace. Stalky
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RHP User
14 years ago
Stalky, I wonder the fact that Alan Joyce has f$#ked Qantas staff over, means he qualifies for the mile high club????
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'CrackUp' Stalky, I wonder the fact that Alan Joyce has f$#ked Qantas staff over, means he qualifies for the mile high club???? He's trying, to be sure, (to be sure), but it ain't over 'til it's over.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Aaah t'be sure, t'be sure Mr rcFlyer - it ain't over till the fat lady sings, or Skippy learns to whistle on a gum leaf - Irish four leaf clovers are far and few between so Mr Joyce better hope the winds of destiny keep him in the air as long as possible, although, I see a definite crash and burn coming soon.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Wait for the new technology using gravity amplifiers and element 115 (as on periodic table) which will be synthesized any year now. . Take your seat, pivot into Oma-chron configuration and bend your target toward you...and your there. . Mr Erotic
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'MrandMrsErotic' Wait for the new technology using gravity amplifiers and element 115 (as on periodic table) which will be synthesized any year now. . Take your seat, pivot into Oma-chron configuration and bend your target toward you...and your there. . Mr EroticWhat can I Say Mr Erotic...but, 'beam me up Scotty' lol.
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RHP User
14 years ago
But from what I can see the man made a monumental stuff up by grounding the entire fleet and left the company and himself open to litigation. He knowingly allowed staff to sell tickets that were not going to be honoured. Corporate fraud. I would not like to be his arse at the next shareholders meeting. Unions need to give six months warning proir to any strike action these days, Alan Joyce had plenty of time to discuss this and work out a fair and just end instead of giving himself such a huge pay rise and ignoring all the minions. As for flying Qantas...if I want to fly in and out of my local airport...no other option. I do not have any loyalty to an airline though and once my plane hits the tarmac at Sydney all bets are off and I fly with whom ever is offering me the best deal.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' ...you are talking through your $#^%. I know FACTS are not your strong point but sometimes it helps to be more informed. But from what I can see the man made a monumental stuff up by grounding the entire fleet and left the company and himself open to litigation. He knowingly allowed staff to sell tickets that were not going to be honoured. Corporate fraud. I would not like to be his arse at the next shareholders meeting. Unions need to give six months warning proir to any strike action these days, Alan Joyce had plenty of time to discuss this and work out a fair and just end instead of giving himself such a huge pay rise and ignoring all the minions. As for flying Qantas...if I want to fly in and out of my local airport...no other option. I do not have any loyalty to an airline though and once my plane hits the tarmac at Sydney all bets are off and I fly with whom ever is offering me the best deal.
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RHP User
14 years ago
OBVIOUSLY since you are so high up in what is going on, way more so than humble lil' ole me....perhaps you would like to enlighten the rest of us....you know, the ones who never read a paper, never listen to the news, never ever study economics so wouldnt have a fucking clue....which clearly you do....instead of attacking us. Feel free...tell us your version of what happened then. l Clealy you missed the part where I said IN MY OPINION. Now I know you are intitled to your opinion as well but honestly....just "You talk shit" needs to be clarified. Otherwise please go take your sunday morning bad mood out on someone who actually gives a shit
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RHP User
14 years ago
bet you never imagined to wake up with all this sunshine aimed at you Fiona . I'll be flying with Qantas on mon and tues, but given the choice I wouldn't have. It was booked for me, otherwise my choice would've been elsewhere. The whole thing was a bloody schemozzle, and as per usual the ones it affected most were the small people, fn big wigs sitting back in their disconnected-from-the-real-world comfy chairs.
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RHP User
14 years ago
No D_G_T I didnt ...especially from a profile that has absolutely no information or pics about the person(s) who opened it. Then I think back to the last nasty attack.....on my daughter and myself and think...Hmmmm maybe it was not Focus who slept with the man...or turned him down....maybe it was ME! Yay, I may have found a nasty crazy stalker. I get the gut feeling that the two are actually tied together. Oh well, things things have a habit of coming out over time.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' But from what I can see the man made a monumental stuff up by grounding the entire fleet and left the company and himself open to litigation. He knowingly allowed staff to sell tickets that were not going to be honoured. Corporate fraud. I would not like to be his arse at the next shareholders meeting. Unions need to give six months warning proir to any strike action these days, Alan Joyce had plenty of time to discuss this and work out a fair and just end instead of giving himself such a huge pay rise and ignoring all the minions. As for flying Qantas...if I want to fly in and out of my local airport...no other option. I do not have any loyalty to an airline though and once my plane hits the tarmac at Sydney all bets are off and I fly with whom ever is offering me the best deal. I believe that a minimum of 72 hours notice is required of any protected industrial action under FQA legislation. Technically, that is what Mr Joyce did - the lock-out was the industrial action, and not scheduled to start until Monday afternoon, whereas the immediate grounding was for "safety concerns". Nonetheless, I think he's stepped on his crank. Certainly, he's pissed a lot of people off....but maybe that was his aim?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yes I think it was his aim. I can just see the man at night thinkng about what to do. 'Oh I know, I will stop them from flying..I will ground the whole damn fleet and that will fix them. Lets see them whinge over a pay rise/better conditions if they have no jobs.' Bahahaha. Regardless of how short or long a time the man had to respond. These negotiations have been on the table for a while now. What makes him think he deserves his huge pay rise but no one else does anyway?
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RHP User
14 years ago
*GASP* does this mean you are my phantom meanie?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' *GASP* does this mean you are my phantom meanie? I don't have a mean bone in my body!On the negotiations side, well.....let's just say it's takes to parties to negotiate. And QF management ain't one of them! From what I can gather, they're not interested in negotiating....AIPA and the engineers's union are not so much interested in better pay/conditions as job security, but that kinda seems an unattainable goal when management tells you they don't want you. Short version is, the ultimate aim is to move QF offshore.
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RHP User
14 years ago
On opening my msn newspage this morning, I noticed the Irish leprechaun is now offering pots of gold, if you follow his rainbow of sabotage, inflexibility and personal sanctimony. Free flights so you will forgive, forget..and turn a blind eye to his less than pleasing performance as a leader, and figurehead...go Mr Joyce, your a top dude, must be your catholic upbringing, where...if you say enough Hail Mary's, god forgives you..and you continue to foul up as long as u leave a big enough donation in the collection plate.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'CrackUp' On opening my msn newspage this morning, I noticed the Irish leprechaun is now offering pots of gold, if you follow his rainbow of sabotage, inflexibility and personal sanctimony. Free flights so you will forgive, forget..and turn a blind eye to his less than pleasing performance as a leader, and figurehead...go Mr Joyce, your a top dude, must be your catholic upbringing, where...if you say enough Hail Mary's, god forgives you..and you continue to foul up as long as u leave a big enough donation in the collection plate. ...just how much that will cost. Some pundits think $100M+ Compare that to giving the "unruly" 20% - yes, the pilots, engineers and baggage handlers involved in this dispute comprise about 20% of the total workforce - a 3% pay rise in line with the cost of living...The next few weeks will be very, very interesting.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Do you have to be a virgin to fly Virgin..just a thought ..because if it was the case they would go broke too..Afterall Joyce may have fcuked Qantas..
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RHP User
14 years ago
QAN share price is up dispite bad news.....The people have spoken with thier wallets.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Correct me if I am wrong but was part of the dispute in regard to maintenance being done in Asia? If that becomes reality then Qantas' safety record will be hit for six. Asia has a wonderfully rich culture that has brought us many things. Pity that air safety maintenance isn't one of them.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'MistressT' Correct me if I am wrong but was part of the dispute in regard to maintenance being done in Asia? If that becomes reality then Qantas' safety record will be hit for six. Asia has a wonderfully rich culture that has brought us many things. Pity that air safety maintenance isn't one of them. The main thing all the unions are after is job security. It's not just maintenance that management wants to send offshore - it's also the pilots and cabin crew. If this is allowed to happen, there will be a great deal of irreplaceable experience gone from Qantas, and it will be a shell of its former self. Qantas itself will not be allowed to be based offshore, BUT Jet Star can. And Jet Star is a wholly owned subsidiary of Qantas.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'rcflyer69' Quoting 'MistressT' Correct me if I am wrong but was part of the dispute in regard to maintenance being done in Asia? If that becomes reality then Qantas' safety record will be hit for six. Asia has a wonderfully rich culture that has brought us many things. Pity that air safety maintenance isn't one of them. The main thing all the unions are after is job security. It's not just maintenance that management wants to send offshore - it's also the pilots and cabin crew. If this is allowed to happen, there will be a great deal of irreplaceable experience gone from Qantas, and it will be a shell of its former self. Qantas itself will not be allowed to be based offshore, BUT Jet Star can. And Jet Star is a wholly owned subsidiary of Qantas. My partner is a microlight pilot and I would much rather go up in that than fly some of the Asian based airlines.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hi Mistress,You're braver than I am! I'll stick to my GA bugsmashers with the occasional ultra-light, thanks! Oh, and Virgin Australia
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RHP User
14 years ago
Mistress, rc, I remember what particular flight on Garuda.. take-off was imminent, when the person I was travelling with noticed the door had not been locked down .... aargh. I shudder to think what other 'oversights' could be made by an overseas outfit who does not have to comply with the same standards which are mandatory here in Australia. Bit like the food that makes it's way here from China, etc.. loaded with insecticides etc which are banned across most of the Western world - their focus is on money and building their strength - not the safety or care of the people at the end of the product line.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Nothing else to say.... xx SnS
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