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Where are all the single girls ?
December 13 2009
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RHP User
16 years ago
Maybe single girls want more than just a sexual encounter!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
As a single girlwoman, and a real one at that, the biggest barrier between me and 'taking the next step' is usually a healthy sense of caution. However, I would have to say, that most women aren't like polar bears who just occasionally get together with some random for a shag. Whilst I can see the benefits (of course!), who doesn't want a companion? Who doesn't want to feel they're more than a walking orifice? So maybe all the 'single' women out there aren't specifically looking at the profiles that are married, attached, ask me, no strings attached etc etc etc. Yes I'm being bombarded, but mostly by people who I know will treat me like a porno - cum all over me then shove me back in the back of the cupboard until they feel horny again. I'm not speaking for every single girl out there, but as an intelligent, affectionate woman, why would I possibly inflict someone like that upon myself?? I've met one or two lovely guys on RHP, but to most, I can tell I'm just a no strings attached porno dream!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Welcome to our world as single male!! At least you have sexually deviate wife to come home to everynight...
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RHP User
16 years ago
Think it is also a fact that the ones that are that good can get it where ever they want so there are so very few that ever would bother coming to a site like this. Then the ones that do have the pick of the cream and get so egotistical thinking they are queen bee and command be all to them. So yeah it's hard to find them here. What's the answer, I don't think there is one, they already get more membership benefits than single guys and couples. Even if single women got all the features free I don't think there would be flocks joining up. Just have to keep an eye out for when there is someone new around and hope some interest is sparked before the other thousand or so people message her.
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Bubbaj
16 years ago
I think its kinda intimidating meeting a couple 1 on 1....or 2 on 1 :PI love the attention and want to go ahead and do it but Im also shy in just doing the meet thing. Personally, I love just meeting at different venues like swinging clubs where any talk is good talk and things head on from there. But when to meet in like a bar or restaurant....there are barriers?...what if we dont click....will i look like a fool? stupid little things like that.Salandy, i feel sorry for all those who miss out on you two! You two sound like a heap of fun!
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RHP User
16 years ago
I think it is because that most single ladies are here for single guys, and it is not really about couples for them. They might say it on their profile, but in reality , going off with a couple could be a little scary for any single lady. I know a lot of single laides, and most of them really dont play with couples, prob about 2 out of the hundreds that have attended the club over the years. They are more about single guys or single girls, not couples. So the best way to play with a lady, is to look for couples that are allowed to play alone. You have no insecurties there, the couple has nothing to worry ( like the single lady running off wth her hubby.lol) the lady of the couple that you play with simply , really just want to play with you as a couple by herself. There are heaps of those out there , trust me i know... Just do your research, be patient and talk to other couples and a lady will appear the you can treat like a single lady and yet she has all the securities of a relationship when you are done with your play. THat is why most of our single ladies attend on Friday nights, cause the sexy rhp single guys are here on venue just waiting to meet them. There has been heaps of reltionships created here at CI from single guys and single girls. So couples looking for single girls, dont get frustrated, you are simply looking in the wrong direction, look at couples, they do play alone and it play can be awesome. Single guys and girls, keep on having fun...relationships are made on here ( rhp) we can say heaps of usernames that have done just that. I think our count for couples created at the club level from singles is around 15 so far..and about 4 of them are now married...how cool is that
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RHP User
16 years ago
Seriously!!! What planet are you livining on?? Single women on here want pussy from couples where they get a bit of cock on the side without any strings,and the taboo excitment of playing around with sexual exploration with a young pretty girl because it's socially trendy.They also clearly state they want 6ft Ken dolls under 28....anything else is desperate and a loser. And as for starting a relationship with a girl you've seen get gang banged like a slut by a bunch of couples!!! Not for me thanks...I prefer my girl to crave me & not just anyone who wanders along.
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RHP User
16 years ago
As always, I am jumping in here with my say. Some good advice Couplesint. Have never really thought of it like that, but what you say makes alot of sense. I do understand that it must be a little intimidating or scary for a single woman to take that step to meet a couple, let alone play with them. We did meet one woman recently and she was lovely. When we first met Andy did all the talking (I am a little shy at first) and knowing full well I was more thann happy to play he asked her. Her response was to throw back to me and say "well it depends on what Salina wants". Aandy left us alone so we could both talk, we did and from there all was well. I often ask women how they find the experience of meeting couples. I realise that it must be tricky when you have to deal with two peoples feelings and sometimes another womans insecurities be them founded or not. Now I am unashamedly going to use this forum to promote what I would like from meeting a female on RHP. Lol For me, I would love to meet a female that obvioulsy Andy and I both click with, but who I could also befriend. I love dancing, shopping and all those other girly things, Andy not so much, so for me meeting a female that I can have this bond with and then share some play time wwith on the side would be ideal. Andy is great with women, he gets along with them really well so I often have my non playing single girlfriends over for dinner, or we head out for a night on the town and Andy will play taxi driver....My ideal evening with a woman.....Thre three of us get together for a meal, we enjoy each other company, laugh and chat and all that, then she and I head out for a night of flirting and dancing and getting up to no good, then at the end of the night we go back home, fall into bed with Andy (Use your imagination here) then in the morning he cooks us breakfast. This may sound full on for some women and I realise this may not be an ideal first meet scenario, but it is where I would like to get to in a relationship with a woman. Thank you Slidingdoors and Daytime lover for your advice.You too Bubbaj! It is great to get the feedback of single women. PS....Damm I was horny last night! Then Andy got that message (see Perception of writers in forums) and the night was spent with Andy composing a reply, I got bored, resorted to my toys and feel asleep. lol xx Salina PPS.....Maybe we should update our profile as far as what we want from a woman??
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RHP User
16 years ago
Wellcum to the real world and the holy grail Andy. Mars
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RHP User
16 years ago
Love what you want. Where were you when I was a single girl????????? When I was a single I played with couples more than single men. Yes it is a little daunting but a bottle of wine and let the good times begin. Some of these said couples are still friends of mine today. It can be a little scary but I had a close friend who always knew where I was, who I was with and if I didn't check in with her at a certain time she knew to panic. CI was a obvious choice to meet them but there was a certain single man there that held my attention at every visit. Hmmm, he didn't stay single for long!!!! So now he and I are a couple and experiencing what you are. Even my ridiculously stupid "Single Ladies" dance naked in the backyard hasn't bought them running. (re-reading that last sentence answers that question for me, lol) Andy you can cook breaky for us anytime
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Mr_MrsJones
16 years ago
I totally agree with Couples Int. It seems so many people are looking for the extra girl and are not prepared to accept anything else OR to look at things from a different angle. Why is this? This is lady speaking but I know what I have to say goes for both of us. A couple you are comfy with is great. If you can find one that will play separately from time to time you get to have the best of any number of worlds MMF, FFM, MFMF. If you can find more than one (this is still in the fantasy stage for us but we live in hope!) then the permutations get even wilder. With a couple there is less risk of one person feeling like a plaything because everyone has someone else who is looking out to make sure they are not treated like a toy. Of course it is about what you are comfortable with and where you have set your boundaries at but don't let your experience be limited by a lack of imagination or failing to look outside the square.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Maybe just learn to enjoy the mmf - no shortage there. lol Mr. SR>
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RHP User
16 years ago
Whitehawk, I live in the world of RHP and swinging lifestyle...that is where. It is my life and i have lived this life for 18 years, i feel i know a little about the lifestyle. I will leave it at that.!! I wonder where you get the " starting a relationship with a girl that has been gangbanged.." Do you think that is what they do at our club. I think you need to do your research on the lifestyle you seem shallow minded and obviously that is why you are still single. Cheers
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RHP User
16 years ago
It seems to me you have very little experience in relationships. Andy is simple because he supports my wanting to explore my sexuality??? I guess it does not take a smart man to figure that Cooking breakfast in return for an FFM bi threesome is a pretty good deal!! It amazes me how you come on here and dare to say the things you say, generally I do not respond as each to their own and I respect your right to an opinion, I do not respect or take kindly to your making judgements on people or a situation. Just because Couplesint has stuck it to you, you do not have to take it out on us. Now simple or not Andy is the one in a relationship and having sex with those hot women. Swings and roundabouts hon....Andy puts in a little effort for me, goes above and beyond and I do the same for him. Andy is far from the hapless butler, this is the first relationship I have had where there truly is equality. I believe in a recent forum about cuckolding Andy defended you, now I know you owe him nothing but seriously you bitch and moan and judge others for the way they live....you accuse women on RHP or women that attend sex clubs of being sluts!!! yet here you are looking for them. What are you expecting to find hapless virgins that want to devote themselves solely to you? xx Salina
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Bubbaj
16 years ago
i totally agree with salandy! Whitehawk, you wonder why you arent receivng any good feedback!"Single women on here want pussy from couples where they get a bit of cock on the side without any strings,and the taboo excitment of playing around with sexual exploration with a young pretty girl because it's socially trendy.They also clearly state they want 6ft Ken dolls under 28....anything else is desperate and a loser. And as for starting a relationship with a girl you've seen get gang banged like a slut by a bunch of couples!!! Not for me thanks...I prefer my girl to crave me & not just anyone who wanders along."i hope you dont want a ffm or any kind of more than 1 on 1. good luck to you and ur narrow mindedness on a sex site! I think you will be enjoying ur hand much more than this site!
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RHP User
16 years ago
after reading your messages and i will tell you something. im anewly attached girl, i dont swing and i didnt swing when i was single. BUT i do understand where Andy and Sal are coming from, and also know where Couplesint is coming from. I had this very discussion with my brothers yesterday, when they think swinging is dirty and unneccessary. Well ill tell you the same as i did to them. Its a lifestyle choice!!! Its no different to goin to a pub or club and picking up a person your attracted to. Atleast at a swingers club its a safe environment, every one knws what theyre there for and its no pressure to do things you dont want to do. you may not agree with what others do, wether they swing, wether theyre gay or wether they have an extra marital affair, but you can make people to conform to your way of thinking. be more understanding of other peoples choices - even if you dont agree with them, dont judge and let them do as they wish. theyre not pushing it on you.
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RHP User
16 years ago
second last paragraph was meant to say: you may not agree with what others do, wether they swing, wether theyre gay or wether they have an extra marital affair, but you cant make people to conform to your way of thinking.
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RHP User
16 years ago
As someone who plays as a single girl both with single men and couples (but is married) I feel I can give some reasons why there are few single girls willing to play with couples .... it can be hard fucking work!!! You meet somewhere have a drink and chat often the couple has a few tense words over some boring domestic issues which sometimes they try to bring you into. When you play you got to find a good time on both girls cycles. Then you need to put up with their list of rules which of course they will go to great lengths to explain to you but then they break them anyway. They will drink too much to get some Dutch courage. If you are lucky the couple will have a fight half way through play (true story). And if you are very lucky your handbag will be hidden in a dirty clothes basket (true story also). Single men can just be easier...I love having threesomes especially as the extra girl but sometimes it seems like work not play, also lots of couples have wasted my time too or totally ignored what I have written in my profile. One couple has even asked me to drive to them an hour away!Salina and Andy the one I had with you was great, Andy that was a great effort, you have every right to be very proud !!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'SalAndy'It seems to me you have very little experience in relationships. Andy is simple because he supports my wanting to explore my sexuality??? I guess it does not take a smart man to figure that Cooking breakfast in return for an FFM bi threesome is a pretty good deal!! It amazes me how you come on here and dare to say the things you say, generally I do not respond as each to their own and I respect your right to an opinion, I do not respect or take kindly to your making judgements on people or a situation. Just because Couplesint has stuck it to you, you do not have to take it out on us. Now simple or not Andy is the one in a relationship and having sex with those hot women. Swings and roundabouts hon....Andy puts in a little effort for me, goes above and beyond and I do the same for him. Andy is far from the hapless butler, this is the first relationship I have had where there truly is equality. I believe in a recent forum about cuckolding Andy defended you, now I know you owe him nothing but seriously you bitch and moan and judge others for the way they live....you accuse women on RHP or women that attend sex clubs of being sluts!!! yet here you are looking for them. What are you expecting to find hapless virgins that want to devote themselves solely to you? xx Salina Yeah...you totally missed that tongue in cheek post.Another example of posting before reading..making an assumption of what you THINK was written as opposed to what was actually written.No need to pull your guns out,Andy's man enough to look after himself.Struck a nerve with my cheeky post... And as for women who want a husband and the single bi-sex scene as ell,I did say I can't quite get my head around it.As for women who spread their legs in clubs for all and sundry..I never said I wanted that.All along i think I've made it very clear what I want....a younger bi woman who's totally devoted and submissive to her man.Not oppressed...submissive, there's a difference.A girl who will play with other girls simply because it's flesh, no feelings and emotions towards the girl.You however want multiple lesbian "relationships" as well as a marriage, which I feel is a bit selfish.Yes i harp on for the single guy...so what,get over it.try living in a sexually frustrated and rejected world as a single male and then come back to me with a happy joy joy attitude after no sex,no touching from a female for over a year.....I think you'll be in the same boat. What right do you think you have to flood the forums with posts yet shoot someone else down for their outspoken views of sex?? The whole point of this website is so people of different sexual backgrounds and opinions can have their fun and idea's taken as participation.You seem to want to rant on yourselves and get attention, yet when a single male brings up his points he's branded an annoying sooky la la whinger!! Like I said...all seems a bit selfish to me.You have the best of both worlds yet you hang shit on a single guy who gets none.....
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RHP User
16 years ago
Blonde7915 point is worth noting .. CouplesInt. says it like it is .... & let's not be too JUDGEMENTAL here about choices and preferences . There was a time back when I hated pumpkins . ... Now : ; pumkin soup with a few shredded King prawns is devine ! . Single ladies are everywhere ! haha You may have the right bait to catch but the tecqnique on getting to the basket & onto the dinner plate may enlighten us all ! Many gratitudes bestowed by all when you succeed in your endevour . good luck in your search . hope u have some fun . Nuthin' like a bit of 'tonque in cheek humour' without slanging or being too Judgemental with selfish selfcentred comments reflecting ownership issues ! ha . Let the girls play ... Trust does work yanno .. :) .. just a thought ! Life is full of Choices .
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RHP User
16 years ago
Andy here. Whitehawk you sent us your message and then blocked us, mate come on! You are obviously intelligent and articulate but you did piss Sal off for you comments and yes she went all double guns on your ass. Now perhaps you were tongue in cheek but perhaps a sneaky smiley face at the end of your post would have sorted this all out. Seriously if you read what you wrote would you not see that as an attack? And now we are blocked and you don't give us a chance to write back. I'm sure we could have sorted it out in the forums or privately. Oh well. So all we are left with is the attempt that you might read this post. Sal and I enjoy debating on this site but when you attack us we are going to defend each other. She was defending me after you called me the simple butler to her lesbian tendencies. I will defend her after what you just wrote her privately. Of course being a man with a bad attitude myself I hate it when I'm told I have a bad attitude, I hate it because in my head I know i'm always right, I've lived my life, I walked in my shoes, and no one else gets me, this is just like school or work, and the rest of the world can go fuck themselves because they just don't get it, me, my point. So when I'm told again and again 'get your head out your arse' I tend to get defensive, i walk around like a big old wounded elephant cursing the world. Despite what you might think, or think I think. There is nothing special about me, I'm not six foot, with a muscles, or a massive cock. I'm a 34 year old guy like you. Couples and single ladies on here don't come to the salandy party for the 'andy' they come for the sal, I'm the bonus at the end. If i had a single profile would I get a look in?? I doubt it. When I was single I found dates and went on them on my own merits. I went out with girls that were not swingers or on adult sites (well perhaps zoosk) I talked to the ladies and sometimes they would sleep with me, and sometime th... okay no they slept with me. In the swinging world single men are on the bottom of the ladder, because you're a dime a dozen and because mostly guys talk with their hands on their cocks, this puts up walls to that ladies and couple etc etc etc. I know, don't shoot all the dogs because one of them has fleas but that's just what's happened. I would be on that bottom rung too without the Sal. But for the recorded Sal and I have found three single guys to play with from Red Hot Pie, so it's not all bad news for the single guys. C.I said single guys do well on Friday nights and their tally for relationship building is a testament to what they have built up. You are frustrated and angry and I'm sorry we couldn't help or at least talk to you about it. I would offer you a whiteflag whitehawk, i guess it depends on how proud you are to accept it. Andy (offering the flag) Sal well... you might have to unblock us and talk to Sal yourself!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Whitehawk always gets the attention he wants from the ladies... And you all get sucked in every time. Mr. SR.
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RHP User
16 years ago
I've made the point before that people need attention and some will do anything to get it... even if it is negative!So many RHPers make good, valid points in the forums and instead of being rewarded for their efforts with positive attention to further encourage their efforts, they are often ignored or given a blanket thanks.But act like an asshole and you're guaranteed undivided attention from many, some to the tune of a character count in the thousands.Mrs P'
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RHP User
16 years ago
Andy this man "Whitehawk" seems to be your every day common variety internet garden troll. He sent me a flirt and then blocked me. lolz... he breaks my heart. :( Anyway, there's that activity and shit stirring .. obviously finding it difficult to think up more entertaining activities when there's no women about.. .so cut him a little slack and just play along... after all it's obviously all there is left to do in life to get your jollies when you're single and not as magnificently built as you and me. :p Let's face it.. guys like you and me get by in life because we're sensationally good looking. Now I for one, can live with that legacy even if it does tend to stir up all the single blokes who arent getting dhagged by multiple women at the one fukfest. Hmmm... that reminds me... hehe.. I think we should go on a shagging spree now... all this thinking takes its toll and I wouldnt wanna get out of nick with all this gas bagging.... nope... back on the nest for the likes of us ken dolls... gotta exercise my hip flexors. :p Oi.. I got one of those trim shaver thingies that have been advertised... and carved a picture of a love heart in my wife's pubes this morning. That was entertaining! So was vigorously brushing away all the clippings.. hehe. Hugs Gazza
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RHP User
16 years ago
LOL!... Mrs P'
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RHP User
16 years ago
I searched & found a thread I remembered, on the topic of couples finding single girls from the single girls view, that is very informative and has some excellent responses @http://www.redhotpie.com.au/Adult-Forums/Why-couples-cant-find-single-girls-A-singles-view-24023We'd be interested to hear further posts on this topic from the single girls in question too... Cheers... Mrs P'
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RHP User
16 years ago
Sal, you rock! Way to go, seriously. I met my gal at CI, so maybe it's partiallly my fault that the numbers of single gals are decreasing lol. honestly though, I think you've spoken very well and forthrightly about this topic. well done. Adrian.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Sorry bout the earlier rant people... I ain't no saint and do realise we need to communicate with people to help them learn... or at least to have the opportunity to put our point across... hard to do when you're blocked after they've 'put their point across'... Hugs Mrs P'
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RHP User
16 years ago
Basically WhiteHawk is a guy that has paid for a couple of months in advance, expecting to get some 'pussaaaaaaaay' (yeah I reckon he'd actually say that) and then when he had no success he figured he might as well push things as far as he can and make things as difficult as possible for others and harsh their mellow. As if you people don't just read his posts and laugh at what a dickhead he is. Seriously WhiteHawk. If you think only 6ft Ken Dolls in their 20s get laid from here, you need to check out my profile. I'm 33, 176cm. I look nothing like a ken doll.. and even if my face did.. you can see my body doesn't! But I've had some fun with both couples and single girls. Must be my average sized cock!?
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RHP User
16 years ago
Unicorn - a mythical creature resembling a (woman), with a single horn....................... (hang on that doesnt sound right!!!!!!). Ok so we all talk about single girls but do they really exist?? (laughing ok ok before Trish ,Sophie, dessert, and alike beat me up I know they do. Now Sal and Andy I realise we are like you a couple, but we have in fact met several girls! (get out of town!) Dare I say it but it appears more than our fair share. (sheepishly looks to the floor kicks imaginary dust) We thou agree it's far from easy BUT this is not the point of our dribbling on! Our point now , one of our friends a "unicorn" describes her new profile to me only yesterday. She has popped up a new profile. NO PIC. (she asked me for one of her) Very little info on the profile and only a week old. THE STINGER! Here it comes ............ she receives on average 30 messages a day from single boys and about 4 a day from couples! So how does she pick them - at best randomly! So yes it leaves us with little hope you would think. Now ANDY ...... Mate ....... Buddy are you not the super champion of ff......(and for the love of god) fm!!!!! ;-) perhaps you should be telling us how to get them! lol So perhaps there is little chance for any of us?? Oh and I must say Gaz the trolz thing again makes me laugh. Peace and love to all sexy swingers ...... and single girls. Brae and checked by the clever Miss Sarah
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RHP User
16 years ago
Even as a single guy I prefer to meet single women than meet couples. As someone pointed out you have that 'ganged up on' feeling as well as being the ring in and you should always be totally honoured to be invited and therefore do everything the way they want it. There is also double the drama that can take place. I joined this community because I thought that people would have their shit together. But ironically I see way more drama here than in any other community.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Your post here must have been reviewed, therefore taking a while to appear.I do not want multiple relationships with women whilst married. Firstly, Andy and I are not married and secondly as much as I enjoy the company of women my preference is for men....Andy would love to reap the benefit of what it is you say I want, but it just seems you have us so far wrong, the experiences we have had with women can be counted on one hand......This post was originally written because I was horny and Andy wanted to play with another girl, How am I now the one being attacked?! The original poster was indeed Andy.Whitehawke, you write a post and send an email telling me off for judging whilst making sweeping judgments of your own. Andy is the king of tongue in cheek, but he backs down, waves the whiteflag or apologises when he realises what he thought funny offends someone else. Further more, I know Andy can look after himself, he is a big boy...big indeed;) I thank the females that have responded to this topic and Peachypear for her forum link. It has given me a better insight into single women and their feelings on playing with couples. Every woman I speak with, chat to, meet etc on here or in CI, I ask how they feel about couples, I think it takes a very strong woman to even consider being involved on any level with another couple....cripes, being a couple does my head in sometimes :p just imagine being the woman or male for that matter stuck between to people that can not get their act together before meeting or playing with you.I am going to stop posting on this particular forum topic from here on in. As I read through my posts and some others it occurs to me that we are all here hotly debating single women like some object. That was never my intention and if it comes across that way I apologise to any that may be or have been following this thread. One thing I do want to point out though, Whitehawke, you say you want a bi woman that only wants other women for the 'flesh' yet the women responding to this thread, and some of the women I have met tell me they do not wish to be treated like pieces of meet, or sextoys for a couples entertainment, that could be a problem. xx Salina
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RHP User
16 years ago
You are welcome... Mrs Peachypear :-) >>>Mr P has made the sensible decision not to waste another moment of his time in here reading posts...
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RHP User
16 years ago
Single woman - attached/married woman. As long as you are having fun here, what is the issue? We have met a few amazing women as a couple. Most are attached but quite a few are single but scared of obsessive 'stalker' types. Understandable.
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RHP User
16 years ago
It seems every couple wants a threesome for christmas here are some messages I have got recently from couples (i put them in different colours so it is easier) "hope you like our pg. ready to play" "Hi there, Liked your profile and no dramas if we have to pick you up in Brissie. We live five mins off ### train station and have no worries 'hosting.'Let us know if you are keen...Be gr8 to see a pic of you too."Hello blond7915, Genuine couple as per our profile with studio dungeon at rear of our home. Many years experience with BDSM and also have a additional female sub. That profile is ##### Other than that up to you if you are interested. I read your proifle and i liked it, have a look at our pics and see what U think.Couples if you are looking for a single girl these are not the ways to get one ... let us know you have read our profile make comments on things in it, explain how you match what we are looking for
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RHP User
16 years ago
That's some great advice, thank you so much for that. I generally don't know what to say, so this is handy for next time i try and contact a single lady. Cheers and Happy Xmas And
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RHP User
16 years ago
you two are lovely my man and i would love to meet level headed people like you both. merry christmas. mxxxm
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hey there - Sal and I always love to do first meets at C.I, but it's nice to know that if we ever get a camper van we have lots of people to go and visit around australia. We should do a sex tour, sponsored by Red Hot Pie. :P Cheers mxxxm -
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RHP User
16 years ago
I'm a single girl who very much enjoys meeting with couples for casual FWB-type relationships. Mental and physical attraction which leads to raunchy sex is what I want and what I have been lucky enough to fnd. I very much like the dynamic of a FFM threesome. I have been the single girl in FFM threesomes but also as part of a couple and our preference was also to find single girls, even though we had a great time swinging and played in clubs, as well. As a single girl, I have only ever had fantastic experiences so I've been very lucky. But I also know what I'm looking to get out of a threesome, what I like and what I want. I can't speak for other single girls, just myself. I do not ever need/want to make a list and present it to a couple beforehand... I like the mystery and seduction and discovery of finding out people's fantasies and desires. It's like dating in two, except it's three people's fantasies and desires, which is even more fascinating to me. I also take the time to choose extremely well and I am really picky. My main criteria for choosing a couple is that they must have a very similar outlook to mine. No lists of rules or regulations or limits beforehand... we'll discover those as we go... and all three of us will respect each other's because we are all individuals. If you are in tune and paying attention and listening to those involved, it is not hard to work out what works and what doesn't..... I haven't ever found it tobe the hard work everyone makes it out to be... maybe I should speak to my couples lol... they might be sitting there thinking "geez that Soph's hard work!" lol :P I must also have the impression that the couple have a rock-solid relationship and be very secure as individuals and as a couple. There is nothing about a threesome that I find sexier than seeing that my couple adore each other. You can see it in everything they do. How they talk about each other, how they talk to each other, how they respect each other, how they touch and kiss and love each other. It's such a turn on to see. I'm sure they fight sometimes, everyone does. But a good relationship can be seen a mile away. They must be able to separate sex from sentiment. No major jealousy issues or hang ups... and if any arise, then a willingness to talk them through... communication is essential. I like to have a similar relationship with couples that I would with a FWB. I very much enjoy talking, flirting, having coffee, browsing through sex toy shops, having dinner in a restaurant.... letting the desire and anticipation grow until none of us can keep our hands off each other and we're racing back to the hotel like horny 15 year olds.... it's great fun :P I can tell you that when you have a night like that, no one is fighting over who did the dishes or if the washing got hung out lol :P And that is the word for me - FUN. Sex is fun. Funny, sexy, dirty, filthy, yummy and lots of other things... So, yes, there are lots of couples who aren't looking for a single girl like me, who doesn't just come over to scratch their itch for an hour in bed. I'm not a one-night-stand single girl... I am looking for a connection. And, yes... a connection can last a day... a week... or more...impossible to predict... the answer is to try not to have too many expectations ;) It's true that my couples and I are time poor, like a lot of us... and my personal preference (and theirs) is meeting perhaps a few times less but making sure that when we do meet, it's for long, hot, wet, passionate, experimental, flirty, fun hours.... and hours... and hours... both in and out of the bedroom ;) And if this sounds like utopia and bliss and unrealistic, I'm here to tell you it's not. I have had this sort of relationship with a select few couples since I was 19. Quality is way better than quantity, for me lol... and we all still play with others, too, when the opportunity arises... I'm not looking for an exclusive threesome.... free love is great... and clubs are fun and yummy too. Yes, of course it can all turn to onions... everything can... but it hasn't ever turned to onions for me yet, whether out of luck or good management. I'm still good friends today with the threesome i was involved in at 19... and not only that, the couple are still together as well, with two kids and still having fun, while occasionally fighting over who's turn it is to feed the dog :P
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RHP User
16 years ago
My turn again!! lol.......Reasons I wont play with couples....I got asked and asked by the females of couples if I was bi...I don't considered myself bi..but will play on a rare occassion..and happily too...BUT....when it has come to the play time..the woman of the couple has not a damn clue how to explore another woman! like WTF...they question me ..then have no idea what they are doing ??? And just expect hubby to please me....NOOOO... So I gave up... 3 ffm...I have had enough!...I got bored..lol.. Great single men are hard to come by...ones who can be a friend first /during/after.....I rather pass on wombats..!! lol.. huggies sweetpetite41 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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RHP User
16 years ago
Thank you for all the constructive responses. It cetainly gives food for thought and a better understanding off how it must feel to be a single woman on RHP. Sophie, I must say, the type of relationship you wish to have with a couple sounds not unlike what I would love to have with a female. You speak of the couple needing to be secure and secure as individuals and you also speak of discovering limits/boundaries or rules (whatever you like to call them) as you go along. I was the worst when we first started out on RHP for having my big long list of regulations, but more and more I am discovering that go with the flow, and do not be afraid to speak up definately works best. Overall, for everyone involved, it makes the experience that much better, but purely on a selfish level, it means I am not closing my mind to some amazing expereinces. xx Salina
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RHP User
16 years ago
Sophie, you sound like you have your head screwed on. My partner (he's a libra too lol ) sheared much the same insight to me years ago, especially what you said in that paragraph about what a turn on it is for you to see your couple loving each other. We have been fortunate enough to have experienced that pleasure ourselves and i know that others have experienced that love from us, it is such an erotic turn on. Sex with the right other people is a win win for all. thanks sophie love mags (mxxxm)
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RHP User
16 years ago
Well....hello :) This is m first ever post/response...I guess I fit the 'single girl' profile well then...lol To be honest: I used to pay membership when I was living interstate, but no longer do, guest only. I have only searched once. There is no real point, because you get so inundated, you dont have the time, you just kind of go through who contcated you. There are so many people I would have liked to contact, including you guys. But was self coincious about statements about 'taking care of yourself'. Women do this thinking quite well. When I hear that, I think "looking for slender, sexy, confident blonde/brunette'. And I am a size 16, I am attractive and pull it off well, but when I see that statement in guys or couples Im pretty sure I dont bother getting back. It turns me off straight away. If they email me, I will say if Im interested or not, but also explain what I look like...Ive never had anyone loose interest, so I always wonder why they have it on their profile then? Lastly, yeah, I think I would like something a little more. I have such a rich sexual fantasy/life that its so difficult to meet a guy that would like it too...and not be put off...but most of the single guys that I encounter on here are so addicted to it 'fresh meat'. Even if they say they want a fuck budy, they lie. They want the stranger. I want to meet a guy like me, and when a guy sends me stuff on here, I'm not looking 'for a root', Im looking for intense passion or friendship or 'something different' to push the boundaries..otherwise Id just go to a club! lol And lastly....mabe we should start a topic for single chicks that want to go to swingers but not by themselves....cos Im one of them! Even if a couple says ou can go with them,,i still feel some pressure. Would love to meet more girls that think like me for friendship :) x
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'SalAndy' Hey there - Sal and I always love to do first meets at C.I, but it's nice to know that if we ever get a camper van we have lots of people to go and visit around australia. We should do a sex tour, sponsored by Red Hot Pie. :P Cheers mxxxm - Oooo can I come in the campervan please....a sex tour around Australia... how enticing! I'll visit all the couples looking for a single female.... "Starlet does Australia" .... or "Starlet swings Australia"...yes I like it :)
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'bustycurves' Well....hello :) This is m first ever post/response...I guess I fit the 'single girl' profile well then...lol Hey babe... I'd be happy to go with you....I maybe only know one single girl who is in the scene like me....It'd be nice to have another single female to chat to about it and who wants to go to parties. I'm also happy to help out newbies that want to try it as I know it can be daunting at first but it's such a great experience once you are confident with it.... I might start that topic.
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RHP User
16 years ago
We regularly have ffm 3sums and have never had a problem meeting single girls, i guess its because after trial and error we've found that the best way to encourage them is for me (Jessi) do do 80% of the work.Spend the more time flirting with them, talking to them etc... these girls are used to guys and know how that all works BUT its the other female of the couple that is the intimidating aspect so we aim to make it as relaxed and fun as possible.I AM allowed to play with girls and couples on my own - i used to advertise it but now i dont.WHY you ask?Because i found alot of couples worse than single men in their messages. Like the messages 'blonde7915' posted but also worse. I also got tired of chatting to couples on msn and continually ONLY speaking to the guy (yes i know the missus is shy/busy/with the kids/has a life) but you cant expect to interest someone when there is ALWAYS only 1 half available and then male half make statements like 'so when we meet up i expect x,y,z, and you're in the scene so what kind of guarantee can you make that we'll play within an hour of meeting'I find it easiest to go to parties (like Purr, Kat, Minx & the Minx girls only nights) to meet people, then once i've gotten to know people abit; if im interested THEN disclose to them that i play alone.
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RHP User
16 years ago
SINGLE GIRLS WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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