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July 30 2015
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RHP User
10 years ago
Who is?
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RHP User
10 years ago
That dentist, the two sons of Donald Trump and whoever else has been in the media for killing protected species recently: A spoiled brat, needing to prove her self-worth by murdering other beings and showing off for everyone how cool and powerful that act is with no regard for anything but herself. As in "Look at me, I'm posing with the scary beast I slayed!" A giraffe? Yeah, they're sooo lethal. I don't think she deserved the death threats, or for her life to be ruined forever, and I sincerely hope the massive backlash she received for posting that pic (and others) teaches her a few things and hopefully helps her become a decent human. She's young, let's hope so. Good luck to her.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Who are they? Pusscat xxx
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RHP User
10 years ago
That blond American girl that posed for a pic lying down next to a dead giraffe she murdered. (I love the photo-shopped version where she has been slaughtered and the giraffe is laughing).
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RHP User
10 years ago
There's a zebra, springbok, leopard, rhino and lion too. The gal's not picky.
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RHP User
10 years ago
The giraffe killer in the specific pic I mentioned was a young woman called Rebecca Francis (same story pretty much). Just found Kendall Jones with at least four other dead species though, at different ages. Seems she was raised to kill.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Just found Kendall Jones with at least four other dead species though, at different ages. Seems she was raised to kill. Yeh. I have a pretty extreme hatred for her. The one thing I don't get about trophy hunting - is surely all the fun is in tracking the animal down. When it comes to shooting the animal, they are shooting a stationary target minding it's own business. And then half the time the hunter is doing shit - they've just paid some guy to track the animal down for them. So the term "trophy hunting" is kind of like saying - "well done, you found what you wanted to kill! your reward: you get to shoot it, skin it and cut it's head off to bring home as a trophy to tell your family & friends just how awesome you are" sadness.
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RHP User
10 years ago
are not appropriate to post in here.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I do have to wonder if my opinion on shooting as a sport would be different, if I had continued to live out my life in the country. Where it is the norm to go hunting for 'pest' control and sport. As I am now, I find it aberrant. But then, I have to admit I'm also very hypocritical, because I'm not a vegan, and wear leather. So I know that my lifestyle as it is, means animals are bred purely to die for my benefit - as is much of game hunting. So I am against it, but also recognise my hypocrisy on the matter.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'HennaJay' But then, I have to admit I'm also very hypocritical, because I'm not a vegan, and wear leather. So I know that my lifestyle as it is, means animals are bred purely to die for my benefit - as is much of game hunting. So I am against it, but also recognise my hypocrisy on the matter. there are many issues that need to be addressed with regards to to animal welfare and intensive farming practices. But IMO there are also big differences between farming - or hunting - plentiful animal species for food, clothing etc., and trophy hunting endangered or vulnerable species purely for whatever thrill they get out of the kill.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'm in love 😍😍😍 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Melissa Bachman, posting a pic on Twitter of herself with a dead lion and the caption "Incredible day in South Africa! Stalked this male lion... what a hunt!" Ricky Gervais re-tweeted, adding: "Spot the typo".
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RHP User
10 years ago
Is all these women involved ? Maybe they are just killing male animals ? I'd like to hunt them
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Stirry' I'm in love 😍😍😍 - Posted from rhpmobile lol the normal looking socio-paths are the hottest.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Melissa Bachman, posting a pic on Twitter of herself with a dead lion and the caption "Incredible day in South Africa! Stalked this male lion... what a hunt!" Ricky Gervais re-tweeted, adding: "Spot the typo". I sat there for a minute trying to figure that one out. it was worth it
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RHP User
10 years ago
A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Well - as a guilt-ridden, relapsed vegan, I feel I have to acknowledge that the difference actually isn't very big, to the animal. I grew up in the country, and have witnessed loads of farm animals & 'pests' being slaughtered - none of them like it. I want to be able to lambaste game killers as much as anyone, but I feel I lose my holier-than-thou crown because my actions are complicit in many animal deaths. It's just something I feel the need to acknowledge to myself. I'm not saying anyone else has to.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Theres a photo doing the rounds on FB of a smiling family standing beside a dead elephant. The elephant had been feeding when it was shot and is lying there with grass hanging out if its mouth. I honestly think that any human being who can kill an animal just for thrills must have the same lack of empathy towards their fellow humans. I brought my son up to respect all forms of life and I smile to myself when he catches a cricket or cockroach and takes it outside. Killing for food is survival, but killing for kicks is cruel ( I dont eat meat by the way)
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RHP User
10 years ago
I have to disagree about cockroaches. Kill them all.
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RHP User
10 years ago
but I also see a level of cruelty involved in sedated animals for photographic opportunities.... After all; photos with sedated animals are all about our own selfish desires....are they not?? Humans seem to be the only animal that finds it entertaining in caging other animals in captivity as trophies and/or accomplishments of superiority....... Just a thought.....and obviously I acknowledge there's a disproportionate level of cruelty across these examples.... But we fight for our freedom; yet we kill, cage others for OUR entertainment and would go batshit crazy if the tables were ever reversed... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
It's hardly sporting. .The sheer selfishness of the act of killing something for the sake of it. .I looked a little bit further into the animals the dentist has murdered. There are more shonky details on his hunts in the past, so his innocence is looking less likely. I'm happy to hear Cecil's demise is being investigated! Unfortunately, the dentist has been uncontactable. Irony would be luring him out of his protected home to face the music.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'HennaJay' Well - as a guilt-ridden, relapsed vegan, I feel I have to acknowledge that the difference actually isn't very big, to the animal. I grew up in the country, and have witnessed loads of farm animals & 'pests' being slaughtered - none of them like it. I want to be able to lambaste game killers as much as anyone, but I feel I lose my holier-than-thou crown because my actions are complicit in many animal deaths. It's just something I feel the need to acknowledge to myself. I'm not saying anyone else has to. The many farming animal welfare problems aside, I have no issue with the eating of meat per se. As a species we have evolved as omnivores with the associated nutrition requirements, although if necessary / if desired we are able to survive without meat given the necessary dietary modifications. Many other animals, omnivores and carnivores, kill other animals for food and when it comes down to it humans are just another species of animal. If I'm holier-than-thou because I eat meat, but also detest people who kill animals purely for pleasure / excitement / a feeling of power / whatever the hell it is they get out of it, then so be it. You bet I will judge the absolute shit out of a spoiled little sociopath who pays thousands of dollars to kill a giraffe and then lie down smiling next to its carcass for a photo.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Im sure many agree with you, but every living breathing thing has a right to its life.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Luck_Dragon my posts were simply stating my own personal conflict over matter. Not commenting on anyone else position or views.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I thought LD was agreeing with you? Regardless, I agree with both of you.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Is only ever Ok if It is vermin control Or if you eat what you kill Hunting for trophies is disgusting and these people are not right in the head
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RHP User
10 years ago
Just wondering how I got suckered into this - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Get me out of this bubble. Actually it's perfectly alright here. I'll stay put. . Anywhere out there is full of people yelling at each other. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Serve a purpose,they have a bad press but are vital to the environment..sadly bees are disappearing...humans love to kill any creature that makes us feel uncomfortable and there is a huge difference in my opinion in hunting for necessity,to feed yourself and your family or because an animal is suffering..But hunting for pleasure is a whole other motivation ,which is wrong...when I was twelve my father gave me a gun and tried to teach me to shoot rabbits..I was a dismal failure..xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'HennaJay' Luck_Dragon my posts were simply stating my own personal conflict over matter. Not commenting on anyone else position or views. If you say that you don't think you are in a moral position to judge trophy hunters because you eat meat and are therefore responsible for animal deaths, like it or not there is the underlying implication that you feel the same way about others who eat meat and judge hunters. Wouldn't really make sense if you didn't. Anyway, let's leave that one there.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Your view of the underlying implication would only stack up if I lacked the ability to empathise with someone's divergent viewpoint. Personally, I think I would have self-combusted by now if I couldn't. And ditto - over and out.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Gone into hiding. He better stay out of sight for a while.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Gary Larson's 'Far Side' was true and we could see the shoe on the other foot. Would certainly make humans think more of animals rights that's for sure
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RHP User
10 years ago
Seems like some are guilt ridden from merely existing ! Lighten up.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Freshpaint' Seems like some are guilt ridden from merely existing ! Lighten up. Pool boy, is that you?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Stirry' but I also see a level of cruelty involved in sedated animals for photographic opportunities.... After all; photos with sedated animals are all about our own selfish desires....are they not?? I really dislike the fact tourists can take pictures with tigers and monkeys overseas, just like I have a real problem with elephant rides. And don't get me started on animal circuses.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Betty White, on that effing dentist Walter Palmer: "You don't want to hear some of the things I want to do to that man," I did not think I could love her more. I was wrong.
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RHP User
10 years ago
some of us really are the most vile creatures on earth 😔 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Freya70' Serve a purpose,they have a bad press but are vital to the environment..sadly bees are disappearing...humans love to kill any creature that makes us feel uncomfortable and there is a huge difference in my opinion in hunting for necessity,to feed yourself and your family or because an animal is suffering..But hunting for pleasure is a whole other motivation ,which is wrong...when I was twelve my father gave me a gun and tried to teach me to shoot rabbits..I was a dismal failure..xxFreya Shame you were a failure. Apart from destroying the grazing and affecting farmers livelihoods, animals such as cattle and horses can step in there holes/burrows and break there legs. They may be cute but are a pest. Don't agree with trophy shooting though.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'm not a hunter, and I don't really get the thrill of shooting the animal - but I've never done it so I'm not talking from a place of experience. Without any experience, the real difficulty in "big game" hunting seems to be acquiring the money to pay for it - the animals present a larger target, and the hunters aren't the ones doing the tracking, the guides do that - it seems just like target shooting in a cool location. But I've never done it, so I can't say for certain what the experience/difficulty is. I don't know that I could call it 'cruel' if appropriate sized weaponry is used, since as I understand it the goal is a quick and instant kill. If they're not able to kill instantly, then I'm definitely not a fan. I feel a bit hypocritical since I instantly recoil in horror at the "big game" hunting, but I don't have the same reaction when I see pictures of a sport fisherman. At what level of animal do I just go "eh, sorry mate, you're just not in the category of 'animals I care about' "? If Louie the fly had the PR department that Simba the lion had, would I feel bad for spraying nerve gas around? Elephants have such brains they might as well be considered big, funny shaped humans - but when you've evolved to have community, traditions and burial ceremonies, the idea of killing one seems as abhorrent as killing a person for sport. (I also have the same recall at rhinos, is that just because they're endangered, or big, and I can anthropomorphising them? they're not a more advanced animal like an elephant, they're just big) I don't like it, but I'm not able to build a really solid argument of why I don't really like hunting animals for sport, and why I don't really care about sport fishing. If animals were bred specifically to stock a "big game" farm, would that be different? what if you took the carcass home to eat as well as the stuffed head/hide? (I'm only talking about animals that aren't an endangered species)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Regarding a particular response -"It's a shame Freya".... Sighhh.....Some people just dont get it Freya do they. !? KK ✌💟🎋🎋 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
From Reuters: "HARARE - The brother of Cecil, the lion killed in Zimbabwe by an American hunter last month, is not dead, a researcher monitoring the pride told Reuters, contradicting media reports that Jericho had been killed. "He looks alive and well to me as far as I can tell," said Brent Stapelkamp, field researcher for the Hwange Lion Research Project which is monitoring the lion with a GPS tag." Keeping my fingers and toes crossed!
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RHP User
10 years ago
Nope 😣xx Freya
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RHP User
10 years ago
this concern over the hunting of wild game highlighted by Cecil's shooting extends to all wildlife in general, and that people start connecting the dots between population growth, unsustainable farming practices, and the destruction of habitat, which has an equally abhorrent impact upon the Earth's non human inhabitants. Practices like the whale killings in the Faroe Islands, plantations for palm oil and the destruction of orangutang habitat, hell, even industrial pig farming when it comes to animl welfare. Has anyone seen the movie about Aussie pig farming called Lucent? I'm a committed carnivore who loves bacon, but it's so hard to find ethically farmed pork products. But as far as Cecil goes, I think it highlights a bigger issue for protecting our wildlife. The World Wildlife Fund would be a place to start reading on this.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I wasn't raised on hunting but I do enjoy fishing, even though I'm not overly fond of eating fish, and I'm aware that the concept is no different. I guess I have no feelings of empathy for the fish...but I abhor violence towards higher animals and I believe I place a high value on Life. Just not the fish...eh?There's a message in that which I'm too tired to analyse further at the moment...but I suspect the theme behind it applies to all humans. Something about the value of Life being just a point of view, I think...about being the bug or the boot that's about to descend on it.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Hunting is also part of their spiritual practice....becoming one with the animal...xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Koolgrey' I wasn't raised on hunting but I do enjoy fishing, even though I'm not overly fond of eating fish, and I'm aware that the concept is no different. I guess I have no feelings of empathy for the fish...but I abhor violence towards higher animals and I believe I place a high value on Life. Just not the fish...eh?There's a message in that which I'm too tired to analyse further at the moment...but I suspect the theme behind it applies to all humans. Something about the value of Life being just a point of view, I think...about being the bug or the boot that's about to descend on it. Just not for a while and not in Australia. (And not for trophies ), and all were introduced animals, and all were pests causing severe damage. (rabbits, goats, possums, deer, pigs), and also for food. (and I stand by my previous comment, not that I was having a go at anyone, the point was that it is kinder to shoot or kill a pest than to have to kill a cow or horse because there are too many pests) I do not agree with hunting endangered species or animals like elephants or Lions. Fish also have brains but people generally have no problem drowning a fish by taking it out of the water, also rats and mice are quite intelligent but people generally don't mind setting a trap to break there necks or poison them, sharks are also intelligent but a lot of people like fish and chips. I also heard plants and flowers have feelings but people cut there heads off to stick in a vase. Having said that I had to shoot a cute calf once because it was really sick and it was really hard to do. So agree with hunting / killing pests but not endangered species. :-)
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RHP User
10 years ago
I have no desire to talk about hunting to a hunter, but I'm open to it. I don't think I've ever met one (that admitted to it) though. I can't even remember the last time I spoke to a keen fisherman.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Trophy hunting can actually be a good a thing, and is quite different to poaching. It is an economic model that attaches a monetary value to trophy species which resultsin increased conservancy and is actually increasing the population of trophy animals. The trophy hunters, through engaging in this economic model, are actually doing quite a lotto ensure the continued survival of trophy species, far far more than a bunch of people beingsuitably outraged.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' I have no desire to talk about hunting to a hunter, but I'm open to it. I don't think I've ever met one (that admitted to it) though. I can't even remember the last time I spoke to a keen fisherman. It is not that easy. I have not done any for over 10-years, and only in NZ, (as I know what animals are introduced and pests, and decimate the native bush over there). You can walk in the bush, climb 1000 metre mountains, scramble through bush, creaks, rivers, and not see anything for a week. If you are good enough (or lucky enough) to get something, you can carry 60-80kg on your back for 3-4 hours up & down & through thick bush (the odds and I'm talking about deer here) are definitely on there side. Great exercise though and you definitely appreciate the meal at the end of the day.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I know / have known many hunters. I share genetic material with a few of them. I spent half my life in the country, and all of my family are still there. Knowing the 'other side' is probably why I see hunting, eating meat, wearing leather, fishing, killing a spider, etc as part of a continuum, rather than something dichotomous. But like you, and others, I've drawn a line in the sand at what I think is right and wrong, but can appreciate and understand that other people will draw that line in different places.
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RHP User
10 years ago
...while I don't understand the need for or pleasure in sport hunting, I can see the parallels with the pleasure i get from sport fishing...and I'm not entirely proud of it, i suppose. I place a higher value on a deers life than i do a fish's...sounds silly, but the point is valid. I really should value all life equally but, like most, i don't. I have no problem hunting, catching and killing a fish i have no intention of eating...i don't even try to justify it by claiming to help the environment...but killing a deer is repulsive. Hmmmm.....
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Tall74nHard9
10 years ago
is Kendall Jones anyway ? All I have been able to find out quickly is that she is a 19y.o. "public figure" born n raised in Texas. What is she known for ?? I have never been in favour of trophy hunting - I understand the adrenalin rush that comes with such an activity when hunting dangerous 'game' animals if you genuinely have to track it down and watch for the natural dangers in the bush - not one being handed to you on a platter. But what is the danger in a Giraffe - and did she expect it to suddenly climb up a tree and get away from her, or run so fast that she may never have seen it again ? Shame the Giraffe didn't get the chance to get near to her and give her a mighty kick with the hind legs and break her up into little pieces. Tall
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RHP User
10 years ago
But only for pest eradication and food. I kill only what I need or what is required when it comes to protecting other animals. I would never hunt an endangered species
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Lighthorseman76' But only for pest eradication and food. I kill only what I need or what is required when it comes to protecting other animals. I would never hunt an endangered species Personally, I think this is a completely fine way of hunting. Although - a couple animals labelled as "pests" I could never watch die. In particular foxes. Beautiful creatures, was made a pest in NSW end of 2014. Which is a shame, because - I've always wanted to own a rescued fox. Now they have to be killed if caught.
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RHP User
10 years ago
In no way do I condone the slaughtering of defenseless animals in the name of sport. However a few animals have been killed in cold blood and the media have bought it too the fore - (mind you a sport that has been going on for many years, tho it seems most people were ignorant to) - and it seems the world is up in arms. Sorry, though for me there are more important issues in the world going on, so I don't really give a shit. As some one else mentioned about the drugged animals in ZOO's - these same people up in arms can have a photo taken. Well, in my opinion, YOU are just as bad as the person holding a gun. You are supporting the fact these animals have had the right to live in the wild taken away form them, all because humans make it a lucrative market. MEH! That's my opinion.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I Hunt - I Catch - I Use for my own gain BUT alas I DO release back into the realms of the dating game sport. (Just another jungle really)
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