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Unsafe gangbangs
May 07 2012
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RHP User
14 years ago
Totally agree. Love the KISS t-shirt as well
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RHP User
14 years ago
Jen and I aren't into unsafe sex but we won't condemn those who choose to take risks. As long as they don't force their preferences on us, we won't force ours on them.
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RHP User
14 years ago
if its not on...........well you know the rest.......... we love to play, but dont see unsafe sex as play......not for any reason.
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wannabyummymummy
14 years ago
Totally agree with you guys as always.Thing that is really scary though is that this really is a game of trust we play here, people can put ANYTHING in a profile that does not mean that is what they do.I had a very interesting chat with a guy on here recently who had "always for all activities" for his safe sex but within the first 10 mins of chatting he was asking about all kinds of 'unsafe' practices so of course it was a sorry this isnt going to work out kind of response. when i asked him why he didn't have 'if required' he said 'oh i am always safe unless i know the girl is clean' WTF you have been speaking to me for 10 mins....................the point i am making is that we make it clear that we practice safe sex and expect the same but we can't know what our play partners do when they are with other people (unless we know them well) the whole idea of a gang bang with that attitude terrifies me. but hey, each to thier own i guess (probably should make a mental list of the guys attending to give them a wide berth lol..................)
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
We're all for "to each their own" too but the problem there is that you may insist that a guy uses protection with you but he may not have with the previous 10 people he was with. Therefore he is a high risk, or you may use a condom with a new lady you meet but last week she banged 20 guys bareback...again she is very high risk also and in these situations your condom may not be enough to spare you from disaster. We all know that condoms are not 100% fool proof all the time...but if EVERYONE used them EVERY time with ALL their playmates then it has to make things somewhat safer. Quoting 'jensman1903' Jen and I aren't into unsafe sex but we won't condemn those who choose to take risks. As long as they don't force their preferences on us, we won't force ours on them.
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RHP User
14 years ago
We hold regular group parties & have strict rules that all members agree to...safe sex ( condoms a must ) and " no means no ". We are only a small private group of like minded couples and singles and need to ensure safe practices for us all.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Part of the reason why we prefer to make fewer playmates but regular playmates. less chance of a bad apple. On top of this we openly discuss and share regular test results for piece of mind for all.Not much more you can do I guess.Like others have said nothing is 100% safe when you involve others in your relationship but each diversion from the line of safety has to bring a higher risk percentage in the end.Tim
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RHP User
14 years ago
A female friend of mine has Hep B, because her former partner attended a gang bang, where all the blokes started off wearing condoms, but then alcohol and the "Who gives a fuck " attitude kicked in. Her partner was cheating on her. She had no idea he attended the gangbang. She found out approximately a month later and ended the relationship having meanwhile slept with him. Fast forward 4 months laters when she was feeling unwell and didnt know why. Even the first lot of blood tests revealed nothing. And then the news came through She was and still is devastated She went around and confronted her ex. He denied unsafe practices at first till she told him. He finally coughed and admitted that night he didnt use a condom. So off he went to get tested and yep he too has Hep, but as he is the carrier he does not have all the symptoms she has and no body knows if he is being treated or not Ive watched as a friend how this has destroyed this girl - she is undergoing a treatment program which is leaving her sick, she has lost all confidence and just hates herself through no fault of her own. She is a shadow of the person she used to be The ex meanwhile, still has a profile on here and his profile states - If required Nice
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RHP User
14 years ago
The profiles which do state their preference are at least up front, you can make your own decision. Not like an experience / surprise we had a while ago.We had just started playing with a couple, we were both at it, my wife was having fun with the guy and his wife was all over me, it was real passionate stuff and was at the stage of ripping open a box of condoms. I reached out for the foil packet and at that moment she whispers to me 'no condom, I want you to cum inside me'. I don't think I've ever gone soft so fast, what a situation to put a guy in.Every so often we think back and wonder how this couple operates, the guy used protection, she prefers not to. I wonder if he wears condoms when doing his own wife.- Ed
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QLDtwo4fun
14 years ago
We avoid people who's profiles say 'if required'. What amazes me is couples where one says 'always' and the other says 'if required' how does that work as a risk mitigation strategy.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I can not believe actually so many people are so flippant about safe sex in this scene! I was at an event recently , lusting after a nice hot man, complete turn off when I saw him fucking in a spa without protection! Clorine isn't going to kill genital warts or herpes! I insist on it and sometimes get a surprised reaction from the guys, I don't care less, more than happy to walk if that's not their thing !
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RHP User
14 years ago
...I'll just swim in the gene pool that wants to survive.
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
Actually we don't understand why RHP offer so many choices to the question of safe sex...there only needs to be two answers to choose from..YES or NO !!Can any RHP management offer an answer to this?
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RHP User
14 years ago
Totally don't understand why people avoid condoms.......is a total must for us.......I totally respect a girl that demands a condom....just outrages this day and age....but each to there, at least I know we are safe and healthy....
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RHP User
14 years ago
That's one nasty position to be in and a sad story Jonstar . Just another example of that happens when people lie to one another.Regarding Hep B you can be vaccinated against it and I don't know why more people don't, especially in this lifestyle as accidents can happen. We got vaccinated years ago as a compulsory measure when working over seas.Tim Quoting 'jonstar' A female friend of mine has Hep B, because her former partner attended a gang bang, where all the blokes started off wearing condoms, but then alcohol and the "Who gives a fuck " attitude kicked in. Her partner was cheating on her. She had no idea he attended the gangbang. She found out approximately a month later and ended the relationship having meanwhile slept with him. Fast forward 4 months laters when she was feeling unwell and didnt know why. Even the first lot of blood tests revealed nothing. And then the news came through She was and still is devastated She went around and confronted her ex. He denied unsafe practices at first till she told him. He finally coughed and admitted that night he didnt use a condom. So off he went to get tested and yep he too has Hep, but as he is the carrier he does not have all the symptoms she has and no body knows if he is being treated or not Ive watched as a friend how this has destroyed this girl - she is undergoing a treatment program which is leaving her sick, she has lost all confidence and just hates herself through no fault of her own. She is a shadow of the person she used to be The ex meanwhile, still has a profile on here and his profile states - If required Nice
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RHP User
14 years ago
Do you insist a guy wears a condom while you suck his cock??Do you insist a woman uses a dam when being eaten out??These to me would constitute the "if required" selection.JMO...BJ
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RHP User
14 years ago
No one is forcing you to play with them. Each to their own. Why are so many swingers judgmental of others? Just don't play with them. Unless everyone is producing paperwork to prove they are clean, then even us condom wearing swingers do run risk. In donnas pics there is oral without condoms from the looks of it...this is a risk, even a small one. We shouldn't judge others. Leave them to it and avoid them if they aren't the type of people we like to swing with.
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twowithnolimits
14 years ago
do we have to get into this debate? if they have been honest enough to say if required and thats not acceptable then quite rightly move on..... is it really necessary to say what options rhp should and should not provide.... ? we already have a government that has just about "removed the right to smoke", it is now using its schools/media/tax/industry controls to go down the same path to make pariahs out of people who enjoy a drink, among other things its illegal to discuss euthanasia on the phone in australia... i do not understand this obsession with people needing to control everybody elses lives..if you have the information to make an adult informed decision whether it is condoms, cigarettes, female ejeculation (photos of which are also illegal in australia), seatbelts...then that is all that is required... in the last fortnight i have had two separate incidents of friends in the situation of others trying to get them sacked from work because they have adult profiles...wtf why does everyone have so much energy and time to devote to telling others what they can and cannot do????
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'DonnaBrett' Actually we don't understand why RHP offer so many choices to the question of safe sex...there only needs to be two answers to choose from..YES or NO !!Can any RHP management offer an answer to this? I suspect its something to do with providing equitable choices...and i am glad that they do as it helps me to make some equitable decisions
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RHP User
14 years ago
This shouldn't be a problem though. Obviously, Donna and Brett missed the previous ones and there will be newer members who've never had the oportunity to discuss this yet. There will be those who insist, "if it's not on, it's not on" while others will argue there is no safe sex unless you count abstinence. To me, sex without condoms is a fetish, like scat. If that's your thing, fine, I just don't want anything to do with it.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yep... shithouse!! xxMeeka
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RHP User
14 years ago
Cum put yours in my pussy and your next man can put in my ass it will be first time dp so if up for it message us and yes we yours safe sex all the time
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RHP User
14 years ago
Safe sex is a must the jerms out there is bullshit we play all the time safe sex is a must don't trust no one when it's got to do with sex and playing
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RHP User
14 years ago
Im keen as long there safe sex or no sex
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RHP User
14 years ago
We are only new to your site, and came here looking for fun, but quite honestly, this thread has complelty turned us off the whole concept. Im sorry, but what part of safe sex education did you people not understand???? As far as i can see, anyone who is involved in any kind of swinging, or gang bang only has one option- ALWAYS!The slack arse attitude from some of you that we've read here is one of the main reasons why STD's are on the rise again.Thanks, but no thanks RHP.Signing off
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Mark_and_Vixen'We are only new to your site, and came here looking for fun, but quite honestly, this thread has complelty turned us off the whole concept. Im sorry, but what part of safe sex education did you people not understand???? As far as i can see, anyone who is involved in any kind of swinging, or gang bang only has one option- ALWAYS!The slack arse attitude from some of you that we've read here is one of the main reasons why STD's are on the rise again.Thanks, but no thanks RHP.Signing off I reread all the posts and didn't find a single one that says, 'If you play on RHP you must play with people without condoms'. The vast majority have stated adamantly that, 'If it's not on, it's not on', while a few others have simply pointed out that condoms do not guarentee safety. I honestly can't see how you can draw your stated conclusion from this single, short thread.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'Mark_and_Vixen' We are only new to your site, and came here looking for fun, but quite honestly, this thread has complelty turned us off the whole concept. Im sorry, but what part of safe sex education did you people not understand???? As far as i can see, anyone who is involved in any kind of swinging, or gang bang only has one option- ALWAYS!The slack arse attitude from some of you that we've read here is one of the main reasons why STD's are on the rise again.Thanks, but no thanks RHP.Signing off Sounds like having made the decision to swing, you're now looking for an excuse to change your mind! Either that, or you need to learn to read what people actually write and not put your own interpretation on it. If you are serious about swinging then set your own limits and don't let others sway you. If safe sex is your primary concern then ensure you ask the right questions of potential partners and use both condoms and dental dams for all forms of sex. Swinging is inherently dangerous unless you have tests (and results) before each encounter and your partners do the same. We all take risks to some degree, it's just a matter of what is an acceptable risk to yourselves.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I automatically write off anyone with "never," "sometimes" and "if required." I respect my body, thankyouverymuch.
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RHP User
13 years ago
No glove, No love is our motto. Looks like the Grim Reaper has lots of friends out there..
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RHP User
13 years ago
Yes you are all outraged, condoms, condoms, condoms ! Very good !But how many use dams ? Bloody none !Then look at all the whingeing about men going down ! (or not)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Some groups require DnD free info before you join anyway so it's safe for everyone. Also, have you ever worn a condom? Ruins the experience for me personally. can barely feel a thing! If required I don't care. But normally only go with clean guys anyway.
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RHP User
13 years ago
No body uses dams I don't reckon, the same as no body uses condoms for head jobs either. Not that I have seen in the clubs. Mind you I am no expert that is true. It is about reducing your risk and wearing condoms for penetration I suppose.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'keekee1989'Some groups require DnD free info before you join anyway so it's safe for everyone. Also, have you ever worn a condom? Ruins the experience for me personally. can barely feel a thing! If required I don't care. But normally only go with clean guys anyway. Are you a female or male? What do you mean by "barely feel a thing"? Also how do you know they are clean? Sure, they might have a certificate to say they are DnD free but did they have sex in between getting tested and getting the all clear? Hmmm dangerous grounds you are treading on there! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Quoting 'keekee1989'Some groups require DnD free info before you join anyway so it's safe for everyone. Also, have you ever worn a condom? Ruins the experience for me personally. can barely feel a thing! If required I don't care. But normally only go with clean guys anyway. Are you a female or male? What do you mean by "barely feel a thing"? Also how do you know they are clean? Sure, they might have a certificate to say they are DnD free but did they have sex in between getting tested and getting the all clear? Hmmm dangerous grounds you are treading on there! xFunlovingxyes...let us all know will you? just how DO you know they are clean?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Consenting adults can decide for themselves whether or not they choose to wear condoms or dams. Just like they can choose to smoke or sun bake. If they want to risk their health than that's not anyone else's business. Just keep it away from me. The problem I do have with it is when people lie about it to those close to them. Like the cheater who gave his partner Hep B. That's low.
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RHP User
13 years ago
That is the single most naive and dumbest thing I have heard. You are at serious risk. You can never ever be sure of anyone. Ever! Even if they do have a clean bill of health... It Only takes one time to get infected. So really this so called clean bill of health isn't worth the paper it's written on. I am dumbfounded that you actually believe what you are saying. :O
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RHP User
13 years ago
Keekee for your own health I hope you are getting checked every three months or so. I can guarantee that you will get an STI at some point.
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RHP User
13 years ago
While car surfing on the roof of a kombi van or while abseiling. Could be fun though.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Jensman, how about a gangbang with you as the bangee. We could tie you up while all the ladies get ready with their strapons and toys. Now that could be a dangerous gang bang.... or not? Meeka
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RHP User
13 years ago
...you just brought tears to my eyes. Will you at least be using condoms???
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RHP User
13 years ago
...you just brought tears to my eyes. Will you at least be using condoms???
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'twowithnolimits'do we have to get into this debate? if they have been honest enough to say if required and thats not acceptable then quite rightly move on..... is it really necessary to say what options rhp should and should not provide.... ? we already have a government that has just about "removed the right to smoke", it is now using its schools/media/tax/industry controls to go down the same path to make pariahs out of people who enjoy a drink, among other things its illegal to discuss euthanasia on the phone in australia... i do not understand this obsession with people needing to control everybody elses lives..if you have the information to make an adult informed decision whether it is condoms, cigarettes, female ejeculation (photos of which are also illegal in australia), seatbelts...then that is all that is required... in the last fortnight i have had two separate incidents of friends in the situation of others trying to get them sacked from work because they have adult profiles...wtf why does everyone have so much energy and time to devote to telling others what they can and cannot do???? I whole heartedly agree. People should be given the information they need to make their own choice and I think that's where outside interference should end, in every aspect of life. Personally I don't go to gang-bangs, it strikes me as an extremely risky thing to do if you're concerned about STI's, even if everybody uses condoms there is still a chance that you'll catch something as folks will be sticking fingers here and there and sucking on this and that.That being said though my profile says, "If required" under safe sex. The reason I selected this option is because I expect to get to know my potential playmate first, I don't jump into bed with someone unless I trust them, I will ask them about their previous sexual partners and the last time they got tested and, if I'm happy that they are not a risk then I will have sex with them without a condom if they so wish (or use a condom if that's what they want). For instance, I'm meeting up with a woman from this site this weekend. She got tested last week as did I and both of us have been cleared. She has refrained from sex with any new partners in that time as have I. We have conversed often and for quite some time now and I feel I know her well enough that I can trust her (she's also a nurse which sort of makes her more trustworthy to me, I dunno why, haha). I will have no fears in going down on her or having sex with her. I'm turning 29 this month and I've never had any kind of STI, the woman I'll be seeing is 47 and she too has never had one. There's a lot to be said for picking your partners carefully.I know some of you out here might point me towards the rather grim story told by jonstar and ask how can I trust a relative stranger when his poor friend was done over by someone she thought she knew and trusted? I would say that it's because this person has no reason to lie to me. Husbands, wives, girlfriends, boyfriends, people in committed relationships in general all have something to lose by telling the truth which leaves them open to being tempted into lieing to their loved ones and just hoping that they get away with it. Strangers have nothing to lose with each other. If either of us tested positive for something we would simply tell the other that we need to get treatment and will be out of action for awhile or if they didn't want to do that then you could just make some excuse not to see the other person (another thing that people in relationships can't do).Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking relationships at all, I'm just saying that if you're in a relationship where there is outside play going on then you're actually far more at risk then if you weren't in a relationship as there is an increased likelihood that you'll be lied to, that's all. As for all those people who say why take the risk: if you believe it is no risk (as in the example I provided above) then the sex can be a lot more fun and engaging when you don't have to deal with condoms. Sure some people find them no problem but for some people they're just not sexy. I generally won't sleep with a woman unless I believe she's STI free, if I suspect otherwise then I'm not happy to do it even with a condom to be honest, I can wait until she's been tested, you can get results in less than a week nowadays, it's no big deal.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' This shouldn't be a problem though. Obviously, Donna and Brett missed the previous ones and there will be newer members who've never had the oportunity to discuss this yet. There will be those who insist, "if it's not on, it's not on" while others will argue there is no safe sex unless you count abstinence. To me, sex without condoms is a fetish, like scat. If that's your thing, fine, I just don't want anything to do with it. Calling the way people have been doing it since time immemorial a fetish (and the choosing scat as your example to liken it to) is a bit strong. I'm not religious at all but I imagine if there were any devout Catholics reading that they'd be pretty miffed by what you said. Fetishes are by the nature and definition irrational. There's nothing irrational about wanting to have sex without a condom if both you and your play partner are infection free and using alternative contraception: it's easier and it feels better. If you think otherwise then why do you suppose millions of women the world over are using the pill? Are they all fetishists? Haha!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'No body uses dams I don't reckon, the same as no body uses condoms for head jobs either. Not that I have seen in the clubs. Mind you I am no expert that is true. It is about reducing your risk and wearing condoms for penetration I suppose. I agree with what 50zcool guy said earlier about hypocrisy rules as from what I've seen at orgies and clubs and whatnot nobody uses dams or condoms for oral and then it's not like they're brushing their teeth in between partners, haha. If you're doing that then expecting that wearing a condom for penetration is reducing your risk then you're kidding yourselves. I'll stick to just thoroughly vetting my partners in my own personal way thanks.Oh and Meeka I don't mean to single you out, there have been plenty of comments along the lines of yours by other folks too, I just think that anyone who is so adamant upon using condoms for penetration but not for oral and then wants to judge people who put "if required" on their profile need to take a long hard look at themselves (an old saying about living in glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind)...
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have often wondered why in safe sex People respond, "always for all occasions"then list watersports and bukkake in fetish interests... Not sure how that works?Maybe." if required" could be changed to uses common sense.Mr Sherpa
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RHP User
13 years ago
Lets get serious yes dont take risksbut lets face facts.your odds are higher to die just walking down the road orDie driving your car.So let them make there choice and yes you make yours. everyone knows the risk.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'TheFingerMouse' Quoting 'twowithnolimits' do we have to get into this debate? if they have been honest enough to say if required and thats not acceptable then quite rightly move on..... is it really necessary to say what options rhp should and should not provide.... ? we already have a government that has just about "removed the right to smoke", it is now using its schools/media/tax/industry controls to go down the same path to make pariahs out of people who enjoy a drink, among other things its illegal to discuss euthanasia on the phone in australia... i do not understand this obsession with people needing to control everybody elses lives..if you have the information to make an adult informed decision whether it is condoms, cigarettes, female ejeculation (photos of which are also illegal in australia), seatbelts...then that is all that is required... in the last fortnight i have had two separate incidents of friends in the situation of others trying to get them sacked from work because they have adult profiles...wtf why does everyone have so much energy and time to devote to telling others what they can and cannot do???? I whole heartedly agree. People should be given the information they need to make their own choice and I think that's where outside interference should end, in every aspect of life. Personally I don't go to gang-bangs, it strikes me as an extremely risky thing to do if you're concerned about STI's, even if everybody uses condoms there is still a chance that you'll catch something as folks will be sticking fingers here and there and sucking on this and that. That being said though my profile says, "If required" under safe sex. The reason I selected this option is because I expect to get to know my potential playmate first, I don't jump into bed with someone unless I trust them, I will ask them about their previous sexual partners and the last time they got tested and, if I'm happy that they are not a risk then I will have sex with them without a condom if they so wish (or use a condom if that's what they want). For instance, I'm meeting up with a woman from this site this weekend. She got tested last week as did I and both of us have been cleared. She has refrained from sex with any new partners in that time as have I. We have conversed often and for quite some time now and I feel I know her well enough that I can trust her (she's also a nurse which sort of makes her more trustworthy to me, I dunno why, haha). I will have no fears in going down on her or having sex with her. I'm turning 29 this month and I've never had any kind of STI, the woman I'll be seeing is 47 and she too has never had one. There's a lot to be said for picking your partners carefully. I know some of you out here might point me towards the rather grim story told by jonstar and ask how can I trust a relative stranger when his poor friend was done over by someone she thought she knew and trusted? I would say that it's because this person has no reason to lie to me. Husbands, wives, girlfriends, boyfriends, people in committed relationships in general all have something to lose by telling the truth which leaves them open to being tempted into lieing to their loved ones and just hoping that they get away with it. Strangers have nothing to lose with each other. If either of us tested positive for something we would simply tell the other that we need to get treatment and will be out of action for awhile or if they didn't want to do that then you could just make some excuse not to see the other person (another thing that people in relationships can't do). Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking relationships at all, I'm just saying that if you're in a relationship where there is outside play going on then you're actually far more at risk then if you weren't in a relationship as there is an increased likelihood that you'll be lied to, that's all. As for all those people who say why take the risk: if you believe it is no risk (as in the example I provided above) then the sex can be a lot more fun and engaging when you don't have to deal with condoms. Sure some people find them no problem but for some people they're just not sexy. I generally won't sleep with a woman unless I believe she's STI free, if I suspect otherwise then I'm not happy to do it even with a condom to be honest, I can wait until she's been tested, you can get results in less than a week nowadays, it's no big deal. Umm the woman in question's profile says that she uses condoms for all activities...so...one of you is lying! Would like to hear her response when she reads this! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
13 years ago
Obviously you are not worried about AIDS as those tests take minimum of 3 weeks to get back! I am as flabergasted by your post as I am by KeeKee's.... <<__Walks off shaking head! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'TheFingerMouse' Quoting 'Meeka100'No body uses dams I don't reckon, the same as no body uses condoms for head jobs either. Not that I have seen in the clubs. Mind you I am no expert that is true. It is about reducing your risk and wearing condoms for penetration I suppose. Oh and Meeka I don't mean to single you out, there have been plenty of comments along the lines of yours by other folks too, I just think that anyone who is so adamant upon using condoms for penetration but not for oral and then wants to judge people who put "if required" on their profile need to take a long hard look at themselves (an old saying about living in glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind)...Hi Sweetpea Mouse... I don't believe I commented one way or the other. Yes you are still subject to risk by not using condoms during oral sex . Just commenting that most people most likely would not use though. If you are in the scene or have multiple partners the only thing to do is get regularly tested. Do you Mr Mouse? I do. Condom use for penetration at least reduces the risk of catching Aids. Right?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Obviously you are not worried about AIDS as those tests take minimum of 3 weeks to get back! I am as flabergasted by your post as I am by KeeKee's.... <<__Walks off shaking head! xFunlovingx And three months to show up in your blood work after getting infected and sometimes even longer..
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RHP User
13 years ago
Sorry FingerMouse decided to read your comment and I see you do get tested. Unfortunately I completely disagree with what you have said. You can't really trust a stranger. I think that is fool hardy thinking. No offence but for me you would be a high risk root and there is no way I would be with you without a condom. Not that I know you or anything. Hope your Nurse realises that. At the end of the day, everyone needs to man up and accept that there are risks in sex these days. It is awful but it is the reality. It only takes one slip up. And you can pass lots of STIs on with oral sex. Regular testing that is the only way to go. Meeka
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RHP User
13 years ago
Its out of respect to present and future playmates that safe sex is practiced everytime. It frustrates the fuck out of us when we clearly state condoms are a must, then during an encounter we get asked "so you want me to put a condom on?" A good response is "no get the fuck out, that cock isn't getting attention from us ever" Let's face the facts, no one wants to wear a condom but it's just a reality so make it as pain less as possible. I will even wear one occasionally when we play, so the other guys know I'm just another one of the boys. A good night is finding those fuckers all around the room and regardless who each one belongs to. Everyone does there part and cleans up after.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I find it interesting how uninformed many people are about the STI risk with male and female oral sex, woman have a higher risk of getting gonorrhoea through oral as well as herpes and worts......havent yet come across many woman choosing to use dental dams to protect their partner when going down.....pretty much having sex with multiple partners is high risk for a STI no matter how you look at it and how many condoms you put on for intercourse only......
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RHP User
13 years ago
Hi! DonnaBrett Thanks for this timely Topic..:) I haven't had a Gangbang or 3 some ( the latter I will be very soon)as yet all mine so far have been 1-1. I always insist on Condoms. .I was talking to a Guy recently who was so eager to meet me .I told him it's a must to wear condoms or produce very recent test results showing you're STD free then I may think about it. I go for safe sex all the time. .Anyway I made arrangements to see this Guy I said my rule wear condoms or we go no further..He agreed, everytime since i 1st mentioned it. However as he was driving down and informed me he can't wear them as he's allergic to the gel.. Well I was so annoyed..He knew this all along yet still expected me to say Oh! Yes Hun come down we can do it for sure we don't need any condoms Like Hell! I was going too. It didn't happen he drove Home I cut ties with him.. I found out a couple of weeks ago when I was playing with a Lover that I'm allergic to 1 brand of gel My Pussy was swollen up very sore ,I couldn't even put my finger in my vagina and It felt like I had a golf ball pushed up deep inside me.. It finally got better 1 week Later. 2 days after my recovery I played but used another gel it was a little sore but nothing like the other brand .. If I can have a Guy wear a Condom and I use a gel and have a small reaction .The Young Guy could certainly wear 1. I'm wondering if he was putting the gel in the wrong place he!he! Cheers Lu :)
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RHP User
13 years ago
I'm loving this! from my bed as i read , repeating the word OMG ! The last time i brought this up i was called a judge mental bitch ! lol So yeah this to fun . Cool that there are people out there that still care lol LIKE
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RHP User
13 years ago
Umm the woman in question's profile says that she uses condoms for all activities...so...one of you is lying! Would like to hear her response when she reads this! xFunlovingx Lying? How so? If she uses condoms for all activities and wants to use them with me then that's what we'll do. Like I said I'm not a fan but I'm not going to hold it against anyone if that's what they feel comfortable with, as I said in my post, I'lll go without if they so wish and I trust them or with one if they want to use it. What I won't do is go with or without if I don't trust them, I'm not that hard up for sex to bother risking it. I know, I know, people will say you're risking it by not using a condom but lets talk stats, condoms are what, 98% effective? Maybe I've too much self confidence but I think my own screening process is more effective than that and if I didn't trust someone then that 2% chance I might catch something is frankly too much for me.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Madam,You may find latex free condoms help, Ansell Skyn is one I have used but there are others.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'TheFingerMouse' Quoting 'Meeka100'No body uses dams I don't reckon, the same as no body uses condoms for head jobs either. Not that I have seen in the clubs. Mind you I am no expert that is true. It is about reducing your risk and wearing condoms for penetration I suppose. Oh and Meeka I don't mean to single you out, there have been plenty of comments along the lines of yours by other folks too, I just think that anyone who is so adamant upon using condoms for penetration but not for oral and then wants to judge people who put "if required" on their profile need to take a long hard look at themselves (an old saying about living in glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind)...Hi Sweetpea Mouse... I don't believe I commented one way or the other. Yes you are still subject to risk by not using condoms during oral sex . Just commenting that most people most likely would not use though. If you are in the scene or have multiple partners the only thing to do is get regularly tested. Do you Mr Mouse? I do. Condom use for penetration at least reduces the risk of catching Aids. Right? ... It's just that you pointed out that you too had noticed that most people don't use protection for oral is all. And yes I get tested once a month when not in a relationship (used to do it once every 3 months but since Australia has the highest STI rate bar Sub-Saharan Africa I decided to increase the frequency since coming here). As for the AIDS risk (and I'm sure I'm going to catch a lot of flak for this but I'll say it anyway). Australia currently has around 20,000 people living with HIV/AIDS and a population of around 23 million people. This makes a raw statistical fact that in sleeping with someone completely the chances of that person being infected are around 8 in 10 thousand. The chances of you contracting HIV from that encounter are actually less than 8 in 10,000 though as the infection rate is actually 70% for contracting HIV from normal sex with someone who is HIV positive, therefore the chances of you catching HIV by sleeping with someone completely at random in Australia are around 5.6 in 10,000. I know, you're thinking that's still pretty high, right? I agree. But then we have to factor in the knowledge that these 20,000-odd people with HIV/AIDS know that they have it and so will (unless they're incredibly evil) tell you that they are have it. The issue is folks that don't know that they have it...Now, and again I'm sure I'll catch a lot of flak for this, the biggest problem with undiagnosed cases of blood born diseases comes from intravenous drug users. Why? Because people who've had sex without protection usually get panicky soon after and go and get themselves tested. Intravenous drug users? Not so much. So, by screening your partners properly (avoiding people who seem to have a laissez faire attitude to knowing more about their playmates sexual history, getting vaccinated, regular testing etc etc) and avoiding intravenous drug users (not that hard to figure out who is and who isn't, much easier than spotting an alcoholic for instance), you can significantly reduce what was already quite a small risk of infection to a point where you are basically more likely to get hit by a car (approximately 1 in 20,000) crossing the road then you are to catch HIV.As I said before, I believe that being careful about who you sleep with is a far better prevention from catching an STI than anything else. If you use a condom and just sleep willy nilly with whomever you please and think that you're protected you're only fooling yourself. You might not think much of the stats that I've mentioned but consider this: If you sleep with someone who has HIV/AIDS or another STI then you still have 1 in 50 chance of contracting their infection. 1 in 50. Suddenly 5 in 10 thousand ain't looking so bad is it? TALK to your partners. Suss them out. If they're dodgy, then forget'em. Gangbangs? Do it with friends who you all trust implicitly and insist on recent testing with no partners playing away from home before the meet, condoms or otherwise.
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verago250
13 years ago
I dont spell well and know that I will be caned for this,. DONT CARE. I am in a near sexless marriage and been told "go find it elsware" I do care and there are things that are transmited not just by sexual intercourse, I also have grandkids.For leagul reasons I must be a bit vage.Working as a volinter in the helth industry you are told over and over again of personl safety.Blood, swet,tear and silivor ALL carrie diese.If I were to infect my grandkids well you know.I will be changing my pf from for intercourse to FOR ALL.I just wish there was a better way.For some reason trust and respect has been trashed.Im learnig lots from post,dinnt come here for that,but thanks.
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Cheekyarses
13 years ago
protection protection protection......Im in agreeance with jensman1903 xxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
I always ask guys to wear a condom...but a few times recently they have used it for the first eencounter, and then in subsequent play think that its OK to leave it off...what is with that? I have had to physically shove them off me and insist on a condom, but they were almost all the way in. Come on guys...technically that is rape...isn't that what the Swedish girls accused Assange of doing? I wouldn't expect them tto be trusting me...so why should I trust them...?
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RHP User
13 years ago
In a group situation , you never know -- whos done who and what they have..... we have reguarally couples which we dont use comdoms
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RHP User
13 years ago
People have the right to choose wether they use condoms or not. Some people prefer not to and thats fine, as long as everyone else is cool with babreback too. I can tell you that if you go bareback and keep healthy with vitamins and correct food etc, you will be fine. Just dont take the aids tests that have been proven to give false positives for someting they cant even isolate in a lab if you have used anytype of drug that cause cryataline susbstance in your blood such as amyl nitrate, cocaine, rocks etc. any use of these will return a positive. Keep your body fuelled properly and you will never catch "aids". More info can be found on many websites, includes RPH's unofficial aids myth website. Also, read a book enitled world with aids. You will be amazed at what Dr. Robert Gallow, the supposed scientist who "discovered" aids and was then promptly convicted of fraud lol.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting '83sherpa' I have often wondered why in safe sex People respond, "always for all occasions"then list watersports and bukkake in fetish interests... Not sure how that works?Maybe." if required" could be changed to uses common sense.Mr Sherpa "Always for all occasions" Except fetishes ! My point EXACTLY !!Glad to see this topic is getting aired at last !
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'xFunlovingx' Obviously you are not worried about AIDS as those tests take minimum of 3 weeks to get back! I am as flabergasted by your post as I am by KeeKee's.... <<__Walks off shaking head! xFunlovingx And three months to show up in your blood work after getting infected and sometimes even longer.. I totally agree, I'm surprised at the comments mentioning all is well with proof of test results when it is not very hard to find the fact that HIV can take up to 3 months and in some cases longer to be detectable, meaning tests will show up clear even though the person is infected and can pass it on.This is something that the Dr will always tell you. Surely this removes some credibility away from the 'all clear' result on the piece of paper from someone you have just met. Seems like there are some delusional or ignorant people that choose to ignore the fact. Dancing with the devil must be fun.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I'm a bisexual male and I always have a laugh when people take about this subject..... As I would not licking a nice pussy or sucking a nice cock when covered with a rubber, there is no feeling or nice taste in it, so you would be better off chewing on a bike tube, and rubber taste like crap..... I always say you have to trust the guy or couples you are having sex with becouse oraly you can catch anything they have as well... The only one safe sex this is one partner only....... Only thing comdoms do is stop unwanted babys.....
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RHP User
13 years ago
As I wrote, this topic has been discussed several times previously. In at least two other threads, I have expressed the same opinion in much the same way but you are the first to see it as a slight to women trying to get pregnant. Obviously, it is completely my own fault but as the topic was about gang bang participants who don't wear condoms and we were discussing people who, when engaging in casual hook ups and/or gang bangs who don't wear condoms, I just assumed that you would realise that my comments related to persons who engaged in casual hook ups and gang bangs without using condoms. In actuallity, I rarely use a condom myself as I very rarely engage in casual hook ups and, no, I don't consider that to be a fetish. There are people who have a specific desire to partake in casual or even anonymous sex witouth taking safe sex practises into consideration. I would relate this to a fetish. If you are unhappy with the other fetishes I used as examples, feel free to replace them with your own. I do hope this clarifies my stance on the subject for you. If not, ...ehh.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Cancpl666' People have the right to choose wether they use condoms or not. Some people prefer not to and thats fine, as long as everyone else is cool with babreback too. I can tell you that if you go bareback and keep healthy with vitamins and correct food etc, you will be fine. Just dont take the aids tests that have been proven to give false positives for someting they cant even isolate in a lab if you have used anytype of drug that cause cryataline susbstance in your blood such as amyl nitrate, cocaine, rocks etc. any use of these will return a positive. Keep your body fuelled properly and you will never catch "aids". More info can be found on many websites, includes RPH's unofficial aids myth website. Also, read a book enitled world with aids. You will be amazed at what Dr. Robert Gallow, the supposed scientist who "discovered" aids and was then promptly convicted of fraud lol. Un-fucken-believable.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'TheFingerMouse' ... It's just that you pointed out that you too had noticed that most people don't use protection for oral is all. And yes I get tested once a month when not in a relationship (used to do it once every 3 months but since Australia has the highest STI rate bar Sub-Saharan Africa I decided to increase the frequency since coming here). That is simply not true... what about Asia and Latin America? Dude where are you getting your statistics from??
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RHP User
13 years ago
have to ask...of the people here who have opinions one way...or the other...how many have actually had an std test in the past 3 months? its something we do regularly...we'd rather know and deal with something before it becomes too much of an issue (hopefully), than find out when its too late...we use condomes for sex, but choose to not use condoms or dams for oral....but in doing so, we always understand that every time we play, we expose ourselves to all kinds of nasties...... how many women who only have sex with other women.... ask the same questions and take the same precautions as they would if it was sex with a male? and are they as regularly tested as they should be? for the patners who dont play, but have a spouse who does......do you insist on both protection and testing? is every new partner reason enough for a new round of tests? and girls....do you really know and understand the risks your partners may be taking, when they are playing on their own....possibly in a 'beat' somewhere? and how those risks may impact upon you?
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RHP User
13 years ago
FUCK ME it takes a lot to floor me, but Iam fucking flabbergasted rite now... The ignorance of some.....fuck me again (with a condom please...ah thanks for that) ...as a pathologist ..Im fucking stunned that this post was even allowed up !!!!!!!! People have the right to choose wether they use condoms or not. Some people prefer not to and thats fine, as long as everyone else is cool with babreback too. I can tell you that if you go bareback and keep healthy with vitamins and correct food etc, you will be fine. Just dont take the aids tests that have been proven to give false positives for someting they cant even isolate in a lab if you have used anytype of drug that cause cryataline susbstance in your blood such as amyl nitrate, cocaine, rocks etc. any use of these will return a positive. Keep your body fuelled properly and you will never catch "aids". More info can be found on many websites, includes RPH's unofficial aids myth website. Also, read a book enitled world with aids. You will be amazed at what Dr. Robert Gallow, the supposed scientist who "discovered" aids and was then promptly convicted of fraud lol. Gallo - not Gallow is a biochemist who created the HIV Virus ......and was not convicted of fraud..what do you people read ???? See below Investigative journalist John Crewdson<20> suggested that Gallo's lab may have misappropriated a sample of HIV isolated at the Pasteur Institute by Montagnier's group.<21> Investigations by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the HHS ultimately cleared Gallo's group of any wrongdoing.<17> As part of these investigations, the United States Office of Research Integrity at the National Institutes of Health commissioned Hoffmann–La Roche scientists to analyze archival samples established at the Pasteur Institute and the Laboratory of Tumor Cell Biology (LTCB) of the National Cancer Institute between 1983 and 1985. The conclusion was that virus used in Gallo's lab had come from Montagnier's lab, a patient virus that had contaminated a virus from another patient. On request, Montagnier's group had sent a sample of this culture to Gallo, not knowing it contained two viruses. It then contaminated the pooled culture on which Gallo was working.<22> Because of the discovery uncertainties, the French and US governments disputed a patent for an HIV test that had been filed by the United States Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).<11> In 1987, the two governments agreed to split equally the proceeds from the patent,<11> naming Montagnier and Gallo co-discoverers.<17><23> Montagnier and Gallo resumed collaborating with each other again for a chronology that appeared in Nature in 1987.<17> And the fact that you reside in Perth...frigthens me even more....!!!! Meeka I am sorry to hear of your friend that is suffering from this insidious disease......hug to you and them FUCK ME...shakes head, wanders off and wonders
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RHP User
13 years ago
There is soo much trust involved in doing this. Paramount is doing tests together and absteining from any risky behaviour. Swining is different, take all the precautions you can. Never trust anyone as they will just say things to get their way with what they want to do at the time.
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RHP User
13 years ago
You do not "catch" AIDSHowever you can contract HIV.Which then, in many people leads to AIDS.To maintain good health, everyone should eat a balanced diet, a balanced and healthy diet assists in some illness and conditions, it does not cure or stave off AIDS.I do thank you for sharing your thoughts, if I lived over in WA I would personally be checking with everyone I ever met there if they have ever indulged in swapping any type of body fluids, or if they have ever been with anyone you guys have ever been with. Thanks for the heads up on that one.I value my good health and my time on this planet.
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RHP User
13 years ago
for Europian and Ruby...my sentiments exactly Ruby...exactly ...................Im so done with sex after that post (and dont even start me on Finger Mouses posts which I just finished reading now) Im so angry I cant even type properly !!!! GGGRRRR
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RHP User
13 years ago
@MsVelvetBlue
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RHP User
13 years ago
Sexual roulette... must be a Western Australian thing.
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Paradisepair
13 years ago
Somebody-else please articulate what I'm thinking... I'm currently overcome by the urge to hurl insults.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Agree MikenShel. And it is easier for a woman to pick up an STD than it is for men.
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RHP User
13 years ago
shit, there must be a hole in the rabbit proof fence Listen, were all clean over here in the west. We eat our carrots so we cant get any sexual thingamajigs We never have unwanted babies, not since the baby bonus, heck they are all wanted those little suckers. we get our hep B of the toilet seat we get herpes from all this west Australian sun shine, who told you we get it from any skin on skin contact? what do you mean it does not even have to be our pink bits? Well all know over here in the west, that You can only get HIV if you wipe your twat with your left hand on a full moon with a hotel towel... sex education 101 bloody ignorant eastern staters bahhh humbug I got this cold from drinking out of my dogs bowl as well, and yes Virginia there is a Santa clause now rhp people go eat your carrots and fuck bareback shit can anyone tell me what this rash is?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'Agree MikenShel. And it is easier for a woman to pick up an STD than it is for men. i dont think spouses really consider what their partners may be up to out there....or who with. i'd be quizzing every single person my partner comes in contact with, if only for my own peace of mind.... i dont think it would be a very nice thing to contract an STD from your own partner.... so guys...if your gal plays solo....dont ever think you are protected because she insists her partners be clean or wear condoms/ use dams....because you arent,not even for a minute...get yourself tested regularly....and damn well make sure shes doing the same....
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RHP User
13 years ago
World Health Organisation survey conducted in 2010, bear in mind I say RATE of infection, not total number, they're two different things.
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RHP User
13 years ago
But Danger Mouse, if that is true, you then choose to not use condoms with strangers. Doesn't seem very smart to me. I did look on the WHO website but I can't find any the survey you are talking about. Besides you also have to take into account all those people that don't get tested. M
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RHP User
13 years ago
Well you can keep your gang bangs as you can never make them safe... Yes if you like gangbangs you must be safe and where a condom.......... We rather just have people who like to stick around and not have new partner every weekend or go gangbanging.... Yes we do get tested every few months (not laterly as not been with anyone) sad but safe... We gotta put a border toll crossing to try and keep std that come from the east.... West ozzys rule "well we are the riches state" thats why they keep coming from the east.... Meeka you can always come over here "You sexy little mink"
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RHP User
13 years ago
Funny as fuck! I appreciate TuscanRed's humourous post. I really think those people getting worked up over the posts of the rather odd person who doesn't believe in HIV should calm down a bit, you wouldn't get angry at the ramblings of a mad-man and that person obviously has a serious case of delsusional paranoia so relax and don't signify them with a response, that's just wasted effort. Now, I appear to be being misinterpreted pretty severely here and it's getting out of hand, unfortunately though I'm not at my laptop right now & I can't be buggered to type a proper post from my phone but I will when I get home just to set some things straight. For now all I'll say is that I am NOT, repeat NOT advocating going bareback. Those of you who believe this is what I'm doing think so because you're getting too worked up and misinterpreting what you read, STOP IT. If you think I've said something unusual or that doesn't make sense then make like Meeka & Jensman1903 & ask for clarification, don't just go off on one like an angry mob, jeez. People need to stop getting angry so that a rational adult discussion can be had, your anger serves no purpose other than to raise your blood pressure and that's gonna put you in an early grave long before any STI does, haha! Don't just say, "Oh, so & so's post made me so angry!" & then not state your reason, that's childish & lazy. I will happily debate any point I make to iron out details that may seem preposterous. One exception being that person who doesn't believe in AIDS, obviously we can all agree that they are mental so lets leave it alone & move on. Those people who've responded to my posts I will reply when I get home tonight, I just gotta finish up here at this all bareback male prison orgy of intravenous drug users first, then I'll be right with you ;)
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RHP User
13 years ago
we totally agree. one would have to be very silly to not use protection while having sex with anyone you dont really know. we would never have unprotected sex with others ,simply becuase we know its unsafe and value our health. But , at the same time.. i am so sick of people , governments, groups always trying to tell others what to do , what to eat , how to behave , how to speak , how to think , how to work , how to look .. it just never fuckn ends.. LET PEOPLE LIVE THERE OWN FUCKN LIVES. seriously, u cant catch a bus without people trying to judge u for something these days... were not fuckn robots. let people make there own choices and decisions in life.. if there bad they can live with consequences . its none of ur business really. if u dont like unprotected sex then just move to the next profile.. safe sex starts by using your brain and common sense, not by trying to force the masses into following your beliefs
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RHP User
13 years ago
Have to agree with goldcoast on this one.... People will always do what they want and this is just part of life..... Get the fuck over it Let them make there own mines up in a gangbang whether they wear a condom... YOU DONT GOTA GO TO IT!!!!! And WA still rules
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Paradisepair
13 years ago
That I'm not fucking anyone you've been near. Unfortunately as previously said you can't trust what anyone you barely know says about their sexual behaviour so as much as I'd like to say, it's a personal choice thing, up to the individuals etc etc that kind of behaviour makes my sexual landscape a more dangerous place. Safe sex is not some kind of global conspiracy. I choose to get my sexual health education from the specialists who see it all, our swinging lifestyle is mild compared to their regular clientele. Some people are just fucked up when it comes to their rationalization for going bareback. I think it's selfish and dangerous. Foolish too.
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Paradisepair
13 years ago
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RHP User
13 years ago
Thats why we perfer long term friendship with just a very few and no we dont go out looking for sex every weekend... We live out in the country and dont go to gangbangs my wife and I are not interested in them... People we meet are like us they dont want to have sex with every body in Australia, a lot of people have new partner every weekend in the city, we have not been with anyone for over 8 months and one befor them was with us for over 3 years but he found a GF and she dont like playing, so you see out risk of SD is lower then u.. All I am say is you can not tell people what they can do, they have to make thier own minds up and you cant tell me that all the people you meet have not always done safe sex or if they been going tto gangbang some people will not tell you what they have been up too.... We do not have the right to tell people what to do and what to wear!!! Just make sure you look after your selves and yes people will lie to get their rock off evan people you think you know well... We have had at least 10 diffrent guys and couples in the last week wanting to meet but becouse we live 400km from Perth they dont come up as we have told them we meet first at a coffee shop and if we are not happy or they are not happy, they go their way we go ours...... Condoms do not save you from everything, if you are having oral or kissing you can still catch most VD, viruses and genital warts so keep that in your mind next time your having sex..... People should just get on with their own life and stay out of other peoples life.....
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RHP User
13 years ago
what i love is the profiles that say always safe sex then have pictures of them going bareback either with there partner or with single females i assume some random/ex.. i wonder if they need a definition so people can understand what each option means..
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RHP User
13 years ago
What a whining bunch of judgy mother fuckers. Seriously, Its a gangbang profile which in its self is a fetish. So the people who respond to those groups might have a fetish for unprotected sex. You guys seem to forget that this is a sex site that deals with fetishes, where like minded people can get together and meet other like minded people. Not your cup of tea, move on and find a cup your more comfortable with. Regardless of weather you think it should be happening or not it does and some people enjoy it. Its not illegal, what right do you have to judge them on their fantasys after all thats why we are here right...
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RHP User
13 years ago
Bad decisions. Sounds about right, goo choice of profile name. Doesn't sound like fetishes to me just people that don't want use condoms. It is their right but its annoying that they don't want to accept that they are taking a risk. That's all.
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RHP User
13 years ago
?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Scary stuff
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RHP User
13 years ago
a 'fetish'? we should 'accept that people like this'? wtf? just tell us on your profiles....that you take these risks.....so we can stay the fuck away from you and your 'playmates'................
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RHP User
13 years ago
Yes agreed they should put it on thier profile so thows of us that do not go to gangbangs can say no to them if we are not happy the way they play... But guys will not do that as they know they may end up with knock backs..... They do have the right to do what they like BUT we have a right to know as well, if they are wonting to come and play with us.... Dont see the big thing in gangbangs rather just have a quiet night at home But thats us......
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RHP User
13 years ago
Fun is fun but not into catching anything unwanted ---- keep it safe ppl. Sex is not worth risking your life over. Have fun but have safe fun!!!!:-)
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