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To comment or not to comment....What was the question?
November 29 2012
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RHP User
13 years ago
..and ducks.You want the Truth??Some people cant handle the truth and some people wouldnt know the truth if it leapt up and bit them on the arse.Same with tact, there are times that I have really tried to be tactfull and it just goes over the op's head.There have been some weird changes with comments on the forums lately, dont know why, probably the solar eclipse, the lunar eclipse, the red sea algae.Either way, I am a fan for telling it how it is, or at least my considered opinion of my take on a topic.
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RHP User
13 years ago
It is 1 of 2 choices to be who you are or keep everyonehappy with what they want to hear,and if you choose to be honest to yourself,not always are you going to get applaud. australia is meant to be a free country with freedom of speech. Everywhere I go I find i upset the odd few but the 1s that love me out weigh those few,so I say without bullying everyone should enjoy difference of opinion,and if it is not to their taste laugh it off,you don't have to own it.
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RHP User
13 years ago
You will find a range of emotions from me that will flow to the non painted fingernails of the keyboard. Sometimes I think Im a switch.
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Paradisepair
13 years ago
And/or informative; they're a meeting of minds, viewpoints and elements of society. Unless we're posting purely to swap recipes chances are there will be differences of opinion. Some of those with wildly opposing viewpoints are trolls and some are simply convicted or righteous and some just don't understand that rehashing their stance time and time again just isn't interesting or fun. I try hard not to play with Trolls or waste any of my mental or emotional energy on cyberdramas and polarizing online debates. Not to say I don't want to roll my sleeves up and get stuck in just that I give dickheads a wide berth in real life and I also don't go out of my way to antagonize people unless they are on the attack and I am not about to hide behind the anonymity of the interwebs to treat people any differently. Very occasionally I'll feel the need to let someone know I am vehemently opposed to their outlook though... For the sake of keeping the place fun and interesting for everyone reading I think it's important to keep all banter in perspective and brief. Although sometimes half the fun is when you're reading two opposing camps sling shit at eachother. Can make for some very entertaining reading as long as both dogs drop the bone before the 3rd or 4th page.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I agree with Paradisepair that the forums should be informative and fun.However I also think they can be provoctative in that opinions can be challenged and in so doing opinions can also be shifted I have certainly changed my mind about a number of issues due to informative,reasoned and sometimes passionate debate in the forums. I think people who post regularly reveal aspects of themselves and their lives.I often find myself wishing that I could meet that particular person even though we live a gazzillion miles apart. Some people have commented that politics has no place in a forum about sex and sexuality but the threads around some contentious issues have been extremely popular.Personally I find intelligent debate a complete and utter turn on.For others it is a big bore.And that is also the nature of the forums,some topics I don't even bother to read and others I return to often, to read new opinions. My rules for me ,never post when upset or angry,don't take what is said too personally,and be aware that sometimes when people post in anger they are hurting or vulnerable.Virtual hugs cost nothing and solmetimes can mean everything.
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RHP User
13 years ago
As I'm with most, but I think that one big thing that does vary, is our level of passion for each topic. Which I love seeing that, it creates a very diverse interaction that spans over many facets of our minds, and lets face it life's pretty straight without twisties!!!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Opinions are like noses , everyone has one..some noses run too much and get other noses out of joint..other noses are go without notice..and then you have the big sneezers who spray their crap all over the place.. I think if you cant say something nice say nothing at all...ooops my nose is running..
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RHP User
13 years ago
It's the way you say it :) In my opinion there's no excuse for personal attack or petty one-upmanship. It's not clever or kind to make a point via disrespect for someone else - tempting though it is at times! Other than that, I like to think everyone and their opinions are welcome in the forums. Essentially the forums are like a market place, driven by supply and demand. The market decides what's in demand, and what's acceptable, by responding and engaging, or by ignoring or hazing. DG, LOVE your post :)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Good point about tact and diplomacy - I agree these can be elusive at times. I think sometimes we need to remember that we have a choice, though. What is it that someone else has done or said, that truly justifies us being unpleasant? If I or loved ones were under direct threat I'd come out all guns blazing, but other than that, if I can't make my point without being nasty or embarrassing another person, I view that as a reflection on me and my short comings, not them or their opinion. We can choose not to engage, choose to pause before we react so that we can respond instead, choose compassion and tolerance, choose the higher road etc. Of course, I reckon my success rate is about 50/50 - far too often I react and apologise later! Mind you, I came across a great George Bernard Shaw quote the other day "Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world. Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves. All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people" ;)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Well I'm going to I have got to agree with ops on this one..If you don't like a thread then don't say anything, just move on, if you don't all your going to do is piss people off who do want to read this thread and write to it....Yes I will answer a person on a thread who is rude with a rude answer, the old saying is, Do unto me as I do unto others...When I read a thread now and people are being rude or bully's I now walk away and think about it for awhile, as if I answer straight away then when I re-read what I said it makes me feel like shit because I write what I think at the time and some times this also can be rude or nasty as they where.So if I don't like a thread I just don't comment on it as I don't want to upset anyone who does like it....Just my rambling thoughts......
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have at times been a prolific responder to forum topics . . . .and then I get bored with it all or busy and I bow out of the forums and RHP. Since returning this time I am dismayed by the number of comments attacking women, by women. There was one in recent days where the majority of people called a woman a loser and no-one appeared to see that we were only getting his side of the story.Working in a women's service, I can't let things like that go unchallenged, and then I think I'm probably boring everyone with my calls to be "fair and remain non-judgemental" so I'm seriously thinking of just getting the hell out of here. . . . .
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RHP User
13 years ago
Fuck it. I need to get away from this crap for a while. seems to me that yes you do have to be nice, and have to kiss arse and be the political correct. well I dont suit the brown lippy poo stick, so no kissing arse here I think I shall stick to the weather its a nice bland topic :) in a nice bland world :) TR over and out
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RHP User
13 years ago
Have a friend in the vanilla world that we can have screaming matches trying to get our say in topical debates..Thing is she is on one side of fence and I'm on the other, never the two shall meet. After a while we agree to disagree (AGAIN) and move on. That's what I love about her, the ability to get over our grievance and we get on our usual path of similarities that strikes a chord with us both.Agree with what others have said, and very much you HM as you and I don't agree on certain subjects but I find myself vigourously nodding to some statements you make. Its how the delivery is put out there..the so called innocent remarks can be very cutting and do not fool anyone.It can be like a school yard in here sometimes but truth be known I love them!I learn something new, have had my personal opinions change,and get quite hetted up or thouroughly bored on any given subject on here everyday..Some I believe though take waaaaaaaay too much intersest in their own thoughts, their own words and think the forums revolve around them. It's but a teeny tiny part of this place..I do agree as well that stepping away from the keyboard can be healthy for some..
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RHP User
13 years ago
I thoroughly enjoy the forums and as a result have made some excellent offline buddies :) but it does saddens me when personal attacks occur. Theres enough shite going down in the world..do we really need to contribute to it by being unpleasant in here as well ? Im all for passion and conviction and like you all, I enjoy a good debate..at times I will be nodding my head in agreement with a statement and at times my blood pressure rises, but I also like to believe that I have been open minded enough to look at other perspectives on a issue and Im so glad when I come across a post that makes me question my own belief system or moral code. Im also very grateful for the excellent advice I have received on here (and support) when I posted a personal issue Time out from here is always a good thing as well, ...apparently we all have lives off here...some us forget to live it !!! Missing my instant posting priviledges :(
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RHP User
13 years ago
Thats what makes the world go round.. How boring would it be if we all agreed with what the Rev Fred Nile believes in ? ... We are different and we all see things through different eyes.. There have been occassions when I have had words with certain posters because of that. I can remember one post where I made a comment regarding something they were passionate about which I failed to understand. To me it was just a passing comment but all hell broke loose.. it was WW111.. No matter how much I played it down as only a opinion, they were tenacious and unrelenting that not every one shared their passion.. Mind you' I dont mind a good stoush but this was just plain stupid... But at least both parties got to air those differences in a forum atmosphere ...I dont want to read a forum where everyone agrees with everyone else just because its a nice thing to do... Mind you' I dont believe in all out warfare, but a interesting discussion never hurt anyone.. As long as you know there's a line that should never be overstepped .. Its all good....Jay
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RHP User
13 years ago
I scarcely bother with the RHP Forums, nothing much here seems to interest me anymore. It seems to have mostly lost its appeal for me.I still post on forums regularly, but science, political and ag forums mostly, and even on scientificforums where one might expect a higher level of blogging you still get personal abuse from somecontributors.Cheers Felonious
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RHP User
13 years ago
Say what you feel not what others want to hear.. be honest do you care if it upsets or isnt the same thoughts as other ... Of course you dont fuck me its an internet forum at the end of it all you switch the pc off and go home have a cup of tea feed the gimp in the basement and dispose of the frozen hooker in the garage Don t You ?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Folks the forums are about, in my opinion, about individual views. Don't be confused with opinion/view meaning judgement. If you allow someone else's view to impact yours, you will get hurt and frustrated. But the beauty of the forums is the vast array of differences. Much like voting. The op can then decide unto THEIR own interpretation as to what do based or not based on what the majority is in favour of. It's definitely NOT a jury or a magistrate. Well not in my view, but I be wrong.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I think debate should be respectful and non judgemental. Life is all about learning ,no one is perfect.I take all point of views ,as most people have a view on something due to life "moulding" their opinion that way.We all walk different paths in life and have different experiences that mould our opinion.Live ,Learn ,laugh and and a lusty life to all.
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RHP User
13 years ago
....and for ME, I decided the change in the forums over the past months is the posting of what many would see ascontentious topics. Now the synonyms for contentious are : quarrelsome, controversial, moot & litigious.Quite often these topics have nothing to do with the sex side of the adult world yet are very relevant in our everyday adult world.Being the individuals that we all are, we are going to have our own opinions on religion, politics, spelling, so the responses to a contentious topic will been seen by many as quarrelsome.My conclusion : Do these non sexual related topics have a place on these forums?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Hi Ruby I'm thinking your last comment is a question, not a conclusion. In which case, it just begs to be answered :) Other than being respectful and civil, why do we need rules on the forums? There have been plenty of non-sexual topics that have been frivilous and fun, and that people have enjoyed, welcomed even. Think back to Wicca_Beltane's series of threads. If there's a place for those, and for sexual topics, why not contentious topics? I'm much more interested in challenging, informative topics that expand my thinking about people and the world. Frivilous topics - sexual or not - generally bore me to tears. Surely there's a place for everything, as long as people are willing to read and respond? I note I didn't answer, but instead offered more questions! Oops xxx
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'wowwow11' Say what you feel not what others want to hear.. be honest do you care if it upsets or isnt the same thoughts as other ... Of course you dont fuck me its an internet forum at the end of it all you switch the pc off and go home have a cup of tea feed the gimp in the basement and dispose of the frozen hooker in the garage Don t You ?Post of the day wowow! (with the caveat of avoiding personal attacks though, I think).
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RHP User
13 years ago
a combination of my dickie wifi connection and rhp glitches combined to send my post somehow before I have finished.Soooooo....My conclusion : Do these non sexual related topics have a place on these forums?Personally, I think probably not. Not because there really is no need for them to be on Adult Forums, (find another forum that suits the topic you are interested in)....because it seems that everyone gets upset with everyone else when they are posted!Why purposely set out to generate angst and disagreement to begin with?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Perhaps people set out to learn from others .... I certainly do. I read the thoughts of others, read their responses to my thoughts, mull it over, and end up with an expanded view of the world hopefully. I have a visceral aversion to people just being agreeable all the time ... bit too Stepford Wives for me.
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RHP User
13 years ago
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Shinasbabe27' I thoroughly enjoy the forums and as a result have made some excellent offline buddies :) but it does saddens me when personal attacks occur. Theres enough shite going down in the world..do we really need to contribute to it by being unpleasant in here as well ? Im all for passion and conviction and like you all, I enjoy a good debate..at times I will be nodding my head in agreement with a statement and at times my blood pressure rises, but I also like to believe that I have been open minded enough to look at other perspectives on a issue and Im so glad when I come across a post that makes me question my own belief system or moral code. Im also very grateful for the excellent advice I have received on here (and support) when I posted a personal issue Time out from here is always a good thing as well, ...apparently we all have lives off here...some us forget to live it !!! Missing my instant posting priviledges :( --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well said! Maybe its a case of “protecting my patch” by “forum veterans”. We all have a difference of opinion but surely in a forum where people share ideas, ask for help and promote discussion, being nice is not that difficult. Dont confuse being honest with the need to be rude. You can be honest and be perfectly respectful. Words via social media can appear schmaltzy, syrupy or even assertive and aggressive when the actual intended meaning is very different. That’s why tone is important. Surely respecting individual views and empathising before delivering a considered response is important, even if the topic has been raised 1000 times before.
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RHP User
13 years ago
It is just how you say it makes the difference, one doesn't need to be rude, it can still be said with respect of others opinions and vice versa, as mentioned, life would be boring if we were all the same but it doesn't mean we have to be rude and make personal remarks.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Its impossible to please all the people, all of the time. Sometimes I read posts and think, "I'm not going anywhere near that" and then I'll formulate a response which gets my point across without being an ass about it. Common courtesy and respect seem to go out the window with some keyboard warriors. I say debate anything but leave personal attacks out of it
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RHP User
13 years ago
a quick scroll through the topics, the last 3 pages and there are actually only a couple with a non sexual link.The overwhelming majority of threads have a sex and sexuality theme.
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RHP User
13 years ago
i quote wikipedia........Forums prefer a premise of open and free discussion and often adopt de facto standards. Most common topics on forums include questions, comparisons, polls of opinion as well as debates. It is not uncommon for nonsense or unsocial behavior to sprout as people lose temper, especially if the topic is controversial. Poor understanding of differences in values of the participants is a common problem on forums. Because replies to a topic are often worded aimed at someone's point of view, discussion will usually go slightly off into several directions as people question each other's validity, sources and so on. Circular discussion and ambiguity in replies can extend for several tens of posts of a thread eventually ending when everyone gives up or attention spans waver and a more interesting subject takes over. It is not uncommon for debate to end in ad hominem attacks. An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent, instead of against the opponent's argument. certainly sounds very much like this plcae doesnt it?
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RHP User
13 years ago
damned typos...'place'...not 'plcae'........lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
This is not a forum for sex and sex related topics per se and many a times that particular chestnut has been debated here. There are many many sexual related topics that can also be contentious and litgious as well. Think back to the number of topics about cheating that have got heated and carried away. The idea is that we can all blend in and play in the sandpit without abusing others for thier difference of opinion after all it is these differences that make this forum what it is. . I personally find that the more opposing the veiwpoint...the more interesting the topic. We can all learn from other veiwpoints and if we were all nice constantly then this would be a boring sandpit to hang in. In fact there have been times in the past when the forums have been particularly boring and I have commenteds to a few friends who are also on this site about that very thing. We have then collectively set about to liven things up a touch. . What we all need to hang on to is that life can and does get in the way at times. It spills onto the forums no matter how carefully we may think of our words and edit before hitting send. Many of us here are going through hard times and this colours our veiwpoints. Creates a little angst when our buttons get pushed. That is okay. We all have those times but please folks...there is no need to out right abuse someone because they do not think the same way that you do. Maybe thier humour is a little different to yours. . Now I have heard that occassionally some get abusive mail from others...personally in all the years I have been on her, all the controversy I have caused, all the feathers I have ruffled, I have never once recieved an abusive mail. Many supportive ones yes. Is there any need for that? Have your say, do it politely and let it go.
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RHP User
13 years ago
... 2 pages of comments on comments! I like it ;-) xx
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RHP User
13 years ago
as long as it's not offensive or judgemental. Most of the subjects don't have a right or wrong answer, it's just personal opinion. I don't mind if there is a topic of an unsexual nature, if it interests me I may post. Yes, tact and diplomacy do go a long way, it's more difficult 'on paper' to let the tone of your comment come through, but rereading and choosing your words carefully can help get your point across in a polite and unoffensive manner. Happy posting all. 'Live and let live'.
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RHP User
13 years ago
have to agree with Freya's opinion that it is an open forunm and while topics generally revolve around topics related to sex, sometimes people just want to vent and see if anyone agrees/disagrees. Of course not everyone thinks you should bring your political/environmental/religious issues to this sort of forum but hey you don't have to read it. Mike
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RHP User
13 years ago
This is a new form of communication so unfortunately society has not had time to aquire the maturity or wisdom to deal with the problems associated with this new form of media. For many people the cyber world is real and populated with real people. Comments and critiques are taken to heart. They have not yet learned to shield themselves from the nasty cowards that hide behind their keyboards while throwing their barbs and arrows.Someone's opinion is someone else's criticism. No matter what we say or how we say it there will always be people who disagree and it is their right to do so whether we like it or not. That's not to say there should not be a friendly discussion but it doesn't warrant an all out slanging match.If you ask for an opinion you should expect the good, the bad and the downright ugly. If you don't want to hear negative things don't ask in the first place. Or develop a thick skin.If you want to make a critical comment make sure it is constructive.If you have something nice to say - say it.Speak your mind but make sure you have one to begin with.
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RHP User
13 years ago
i only make nice comments and my oppinoins , if i insult its not intentionaly and i useualy say it to there on . somtimes i dont make comment at all as i carnt relate havnt been in those shoes so id make a fool out of myself ...das
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'miketheduc' have to agree with Freya's opinion that it is an open forunm and while topics generally revolve around topics related to sex, sometimes people just want to vent and see if anyone agrees/disagrees. Of course not everyone thinks you should bring your political/environmental/religious issues to this sort of forum but hey you don't have to read it. Mike Surely it's as simple as 'different strokes for different folks'? Not everyone likes every thread, not everyone engages or responds, and thank God we live in a free country that allows us to choose. If you don't like contention or conflict or debate, don't go near those threads. Easy. And now I need to have a tiny rant - Mike, not at you or the substance of your post I promise, I just found myself triggered by some of the specific words within :) 1) FFS I despise the word should - it imposes and judges and critiques often without reason or right. 2) As if sex isn't the most politically and religiously charged topic of all! 3) The idea that there's a set of 'disapprovers' wagging their finger at people who step outside the bounds of acceptable topics raises my hackles ... grrrr. Phew. End of Rant.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Take what you want and leave the rest. There's vegan, poultry, meat, fruit and even dessert with no one forcing you to fill you plate with anything other that what you choose. Fish of the day...skip the carp. Don't like what you see then hit the little 'X' up in the corner unless you got the new Windows release, if you figure that out please post in and tell everyone about it. Like or not, sometimes we all get fucked. Bill Gates owes us all a kiss and at least a flower. Long live atheism and anarchy. The end.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I can blame my weak hearted post on melting in 39 degree heat.I am not sure what you can blame your snide comments on.As I was pondering in my first post...some folk purposely post a topic that they know will generate heated opinions.Yes, some of them have been non- sexual in their content and as others have pointed out that many sexually ones also have this sort of effect.Yes, I slipped up and made a mistake, at least I have to kahonas to say so.I do plead guilty of a slightly melted brain that day.What I was really pondering in my addled state....its more the sensational headlines of late that from the very first words that divides thoughts.I think someone else made a reference to this style...its along the lines of a Womans Day magazine, All these compelling headlines on the cover to get you to buy yet when you read the story, its a hollow shell with no substance..I too will use a disclaimer here...I havent bought a "Womans" style publication for years
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RHP User
13 years ago
You're only as good as your last post, regardless of how often you post. And if it was "waaah, be nice on the forums" that doesn't qualify you as an enlightened or considerate poster. Taking the spirit of debate and coating it in sugar syrup only hastens the death of potential new thought and anything interesting ever happening in here.
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RHP User
13 years ago
i only came here to get laid, in my opinion you are all fucked in one way or the other
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RHP User
13 years ago
So you got neither... just a angry outlook... and the twisted idea of thinking you will get laid.. no wonder single guys have such a bad name... thanks for nothing...
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RHP User
13 years ago
you is still a funny dude
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Jay_Me'So you got neither... just a angry outlook... and the twisted idea of thinking you will get laid.. no wonder single guys have such a bad name... thanks for nothing... lmao, Jay Me you mentally victimised pussy, single men havent got a bad name, just whinning sooks like you. (the reason you dont get laid) I suggest you get off the forum agreeing with everything the women say and start being a man. Who are you to tell me what I get and dont get and also judge my character? for your information, when I said fucked i meant it in a sexualy literal sense. Forum or no forum keep it up and you will be getting more than a post. I like you too Freya
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'axiom28' Quoting 'Jay_Me'So you got neither... just a angry outlook... and the twisted idea of thinking you will get laid.. no wonder single guys have such a bad name... thanks for nothing... lmao, Jay Me you mentally victimised pussy, single men havent got a bad name, just whinning sooks like you. (the reason you dont get laid) I suggest you get off the forum agreeing with everything the women say and start being a man. Who are you to tell me what I get and dont get and also judge my character? for your information, when I said fucked i meant it in a sexualy literal sense. Forum or no forum keep it up and you will be getting more than a post. I like you too Freya claws out boys ,. we will just sit back and watch ...
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RHP User
13 years ago
Not for much longer me thinks :P
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RHP User
13 years ago
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RHP User
13 years ago
Obviously chasing the right company elsewhere.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Ha Ha I did think that was who he was...love your new pics btw phoar
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'MrsPeachyPear'I'm getting mixed messages between your OP and your 'apologies' post.I also wonder what it is that you and your few friends who are also on this site have decided about how you think things should be here? Maybe an example of a thread where executive decsions are made about what your collective idea of stirring things up a touch is? Is it bad that right now I'm pmsl at the Mr convincing the Ms to pull his finger hehe?!The best shake up I've seen in the forums lately was by Wiccan_Beltane and her month long, daily posted new threads which encouraged quite a few other threads from other fairly new, now regular posters. The forums were turning over so fast that a topic at the top of the list could be in the middle of page two within a matter of hours. More power to her and they that encouraged fresh opinions and blood into the forums.Never an abusive mail recieved here either I must appologise but your post has me completely befuddled...what are you on about?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'EuropianBliss' Obviously chasing the right company elsewhere. but magnum??????please elaborare
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