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Time and Effort Vs Reward

July 20 2011

This is kind of an observation, rather than an attempt at making a point.Andrew contacted a woman and was pleasantly surprised to receive a reply. An online chat, a solid week of daily text messaging, a phone call a meet for drinks, another solid week of daily texting, another phone call and he finally gets to meet the woman for some playtime.......I was contacted by a man. I send a reply with my phone number. 3 texts later we have set a date to meet for drink. This is when Andrew says to me, "I wish I could meet someone easy like you"EXCUSE ME??? "Meet someone easily....I meant easily, I swear!"Andrew is not against making an effort, taking the time to get know someone a little, but probably just a little because while a connection is important we have each other and don't want to get too involved with others.What could he be doing wrong? is he looking in the wrong places? I am thinking there has to be other women out there seeking what we are seeking so why is it that much harder for him? Maybe he needs to be a little more assertive? Maybe I am too easy and should play harder to get :Pxx Salina

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Two whole weeks of texting just to arrange a catchup? Poor Andy! That's a lot of finger work gone to waste.....

  • erotictouch4u

    erotictouch4u

    14 years ago

    It has been said many times here that there are 100 males to every female so it only makes sense that women can be more selective and take longer to prune the list of potentials. I expect that it was not Andrew who was taking the time, rather his newly found lady playmate. ET xox

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Or at least it was in my open marriage. I could never understand it either because I'm damn sure I wasn't easy!! (Not that it even needs mentioned, because obviously Andy wasn't suggesting that). . Perhaps it does have a little to do with our assertiveness rather than his. Maybe it is also the case that a good "gentlemanly", (for want of a better word) man awaits the green light from the woman. This may also be the case with your playmates too. . I don't know that there is anything either of you can do though ... It sucks a little of the fun out of things when it becomes difficult to make the game as fair and equal as you can I guess. In an ideal situation, you wouldn't have to have discussions like that at all because observations like Andy's wouldn't have to exist at all. . Flirty x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    You say that there must be other women out there seeking what you are seeking? But what are you seeking and are there really lots of women out there looking for the same thing. For the single woman, I doubt it. So that begs the question, what sorts of woman is Andrew contacting? What is he really looking for? As a single contemplating a fling with a guy that's attached, no offense Andrew but why would I bother with an attached dude? Even if you are looking for an FWB situation.... I know I like spontaneity. Okay okay... I like to be able to text lots of dirty messages followed by a "I am horny come fuck me now" ... but no matter how hard I try to entice these married dudes they just keep saying no :P xxMeeka

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100'I know I like spontaneity. Okay okay... I like to be able to text lots of dirty messages followed by a "I am horny come fuck me now" ... but no matter how hard I try to entice these married dudes they just keep saying no :P xxMeekaAre you offering them coffee and/or cream cheese? If you are..... nah.... I got nothing, they're the ones who need help :D ...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    So that is where I am going wrong JG. So I should be offering them coffee and the cream cheese?? Not sure about the cream cheese ... Smear that on my ta~tas perhaps?? Ok I will try it and see if that works .... I guess " I want you... Come fuck me now" is too forward for those poor married dudes? Lol

  • erotictouch4u

    erotictouch4u

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' I guess " I want you... Come fuck me now" is too forward for those poor married dudes? Lol They don't hear it at home so they don't know how to respond ET xox

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    lmfao... poor poor Andy. He really should embrace the slut within. However, there are guys on here who would ask "what's he got to complain about?"... and frankly.. SAL.... what's he got to complain about? I mean really... it's not like he's missing out is it... spare a moment for those lads who get laid once a year... or sommat ridiculous... and there's Andy... the envy of every man with a pulse... bitching about having to send a few text messages to pick up a bit of fluff on the side. He really has no real complaint... I mean.. going public with that story about what's her name.... that youngster... it's unlikely to elicit sympathy from dudes who have been sending thousands of flirts and messages with no reply.... What could Andy be doing wrong? lolz.... obviously not much!Quoting 'Meeka100' So that is where I am going wrong JG. So I should be offering them coffee and the cream cheese?? Not sure about the cream cheese ... Smear that on my ta~tas perhaps?? Ok I will try it and see if that works .... I guess " I want you... Come fuck me now" is too forward for those poor married dudes? Lol lmfao.... cream cheese... it's not a good image ... I can't help thinking of smegma... lmfao.... If I recall correctly, I think the suggestion was a carton of fresh cream milk... and cottage cheese... See... the trick's all in the details!!As for the come fuck me idea... I have no idea what these married men are thinking. Obviously married life has made them all fat and complacent. They clearly need a jolly good rogering to get them motivated! Lube up that strap on Meeks, put on your cowgirl hat... and let's bang some man bitches!HugsStalky

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    LMFAO.... too cute Stalkers... by the way, you are up first because..... I am horny and I want your arse!! I agree by the way with what you have said as well. These married dudes want it all don't they!!Poor Andy getting all these comments. Salina does he know that you have started this thread?? LOL.xxMeeka

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Oh you girls are too cute, not understanding why this phenomenon is the case!!!!Some say it's a man's world but really it is the women that ultimately hold the cards, the sooner we all realise this the more harmonious things will be!Surely we all know this is an absolute truth when it comes to sex. Simple supply and demand, ALL men want mindless sex ALL of the time with little or no extra criteria whereas only SOME women want mindless sex SOME of the time and they may have a list of criteria from as long as your arm to the length of Wagyu's cock!I propose something to help poor Andy out; SalAndy should both move in with the Pups, combining incomes we could all work just one day a week to provide for necessities and the odd holiday. The other 6 days a week we will be quite reclusive and enjoy each others company. This is the most sensible idea I think I have ever come up with!!!!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'puppy' Oh you girls are too cute, not understanding why this phenomenon is the case!!!!Simple supply and demand, ALL men want mindless sex ALL of the time with little or no extra criteria whereas only SOME women want mindless sex SOME of the time and they may have a list of criteria... Gee, that doesn't sound very patronising! Perhaps you should have gone with something like "you girls just stop worrying your pretty little heads about this intellectual stuff"...I don't want mindless sex all the time. I prefer a FWB, so I've also got criteria - quite a bit it, really. Not every man just wants to root like a dog - some actually want to connect with the women they sleep with. As half of a couple it's probably different for you, but your generalisation misses the mark for plenty of men.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    It could be as... err, hard as she would like it to be!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    lmfao.. oh alright.... lucky for him, I gave up on the idea of Andy being my man bitch quite a while ago... and that's because his real "problem" is he plays hard to get for too long... and frankly I think he needs to embrace the slut within. He needs to undo his shirt top button... let these wild wanton slinky lasses put their hands on his chest.... show him their best moves ... instead he's there all pimped up but with his collar tie on... playing the prude which we all know he's not just by the smell of his fingers. I mean... I know he's a slut... Sal, you know he's a slut... seems the only one with an issue over being one is Andy!HugsStalky Quoting 'Meeka100' These married dudes want it all don't they!!Poor Andy getting all these comments. Salina does he know that you have started this thread?? LOL.xxMeeka

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'puppy' Oh you girls are too cute, not understanding why this phenomenon is the case!!!!Simple supply and demand, ALL men want mindless sex ALL of the time with little or no extra criteria whereas only SOME women want mindless sex SOME of the time and they may have a list of criteria... Gee, that doesn't sound very patronising! Perhaps you should have gone with something like "you girls just stop worrying your pretty little heads about this intellectual stuff"...I don't want mindless sex all the time. I prefer a FWB, so I've also got criteria - quite a bit it, really. Not every man just wants to root like a dog - some actually want to connect with the women they sleep with. As half of a couple it's probably different for you, but your generalisation misses the mark for plenty of men. Snow Shoe You right to some degree , but omg you sound like such a pussy . I mean Girls would call you the nice guy , & you know how much pussy nice guys get oI think it could be to late for snowy , But all the young guys please don,t listen to him. A test to see if you are a pussy , mmmm if you lol at this , not a pussy , if you think about writing telling me I,m so wrong , Bad , evil mmmm you could be a pussy , if you write it , you are a pussy Pussy = Nice guy , Nice guy = no pussy I think i need kinky sex , it be a long week , use to be a nice guy & still am to my lovers , but it is no good for picking up girls

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'puppy' Oh you girls are too cute, not understanding why this phenomenon is the case!!!!Simple supply and demand, ALL men want mindless sex ALL of the time with little or no extra criteria whereas only SOME women want mindless sex SOME of the time and they may have a list of criteria... Gee, that doesn't sound very patronising! Perhaps you should have gone with something like "you girls just stop worrying your pretty little heads about this intellectual stuff"...I don't want mindless sex all the time. I prefer a FWB, so I've also got criteria - quite a bit it, really. Not every man just wants to root like a dog - some actually want to connect with the women they sleep with. As half of a couple it's probably different for you, but your generalisation misses the mark for plenty of men. I'm with Puppy. I want mindless sex all the time. Not passionless, or emotionless... but hell, once it gets all physical and wriggly and juicy the intellect gets tossed on the floor with the undies.er, hold on, I didn't read the bit about criteria. A semi-retraction then: I do have criteria...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I think its called being male. Then again, I'm a genuine asshole and still don't get any. So maybe I should try being more of a nice guy but then I'll be relegated to that awful role of psuedo-gay best friend. The one who instead of getting my dick sucked, has to hear about it the next day over coffee, which I will through no fault of my own spill on the woman's chest, probably out of spite for what she's about to tell me. Apparently men = scum of the earth, and men in couples = cheating scum of the earth. Note the feminist hypocrisy on show... god knows I do.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Hotsexycouple88'Snow Shoe You right to some degree , but omg you sound like such a pussy . I mean Girls would call you the nice guy , & you know how much pussy nice guys get oI think it could be to late for snowy , But all the young guys please don,t listen to him. A test to see if you are a pussy , mmmm if you lol at this , not a pussy , if you think about writing telling me I,m so wrong , Bad , evil mmmm you could be a pussy , if you write it , you are a pussy Pussy = Nice guy , Nice guy = no pussy I think i need kinky sex , it be a long week , use to be a nice guy & still am to my lovers , but it is no good for picking up girls As I said to puppy, when you're part of a couple, I'm sure it's different. Sharing anything more than sex with a woman is probably out of the question, but luckily for me, I'm not bound by any such rules. If I want to find a woman interesting for reasons other than sex, unlike you, I'm totally free to do so. Good thing too, because I like doing that. You think you have it better? I wouldn't swap you for anything.BTW, you needn't worry about me - I do fine....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'Hotsexycouple88'Snow Shoe You right to some degree , but omg you sound like such a pussy . I mean Girls would call you the nice guy , & you know how much pussy nice guys get oI think it could be to late for snowy , But all the young guys please don,t listen to him. A test to see if you are a pussy , mmmm if you lol at this , not a pussy , if you think about writing telling me I,m so wrong , Bad , evil mmmm you could be a pussy , if you write it , you are a pussy Pussy = Nice guy , Nice guy = no pussy I think i need kinky sex , it be a long week , use to be a nice guy & still am to my lovers , but it is no good for picking up girls As I said to puppy, when you're part of a couple, I'm sure it's different. Sharing anything more than sex with a woman is probably out of the question, but luckily for me, I'm not bound by any such rules. If I want to find a woman interesting for reasons other than sex, unlike you, I'm totally free to do so. Good thing too, because I like doing that. You think you have it better? I wouldn't swap you for anything.BTW, you needn't worry about me - I do fine....Snow shoe . I all ready said it was to late for you ???? I talking to other single guys that it might not be to late , Your a very nice guys & you write very well , but you are a pussy . We are not a couple as you know it , WE are in a open relationship , I have got two lovers at this time , very deep love . ( yes I,m very lucky ) But like most old single guys you think you know every thing, ( a open relationship is far to hard to explain to you , since you don,t understand the simple abc of woman & the bacis relationship Don,t change it ,s to late for you , you to set in your ways , this is just a waring to other single guys not to listen to you . To put this in context , I think you a very nice guy , & would do ok with woman in a another place ( site ) most of thing thigs you say are mostly right, But omg this site is not suited for you . You must feel this by now ??? this site is for player , you can be a nice player , but you can,t be a pussy . O i do think you a good guy & I ,m sure you might get some mail saying how wrong I,m lol (-: So all you girls that think I,m wrong , going over & F uc k Snowy (-:

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    I think you couldve been a little more gentle and objective with Snowshoe in the making of your point, but I do agree somewhat. I don't believe that you can possibly appreciate the "dance", the intricacies or the complexities of an open relationship unless you've been in one. As a result, I've skimmed over the contributions of those who've piped up with something to say here who haven't actually ever experienced the dynamic. Sal was making an observation that is pertinent to open relationships, not just asking the blanket "oh poor Andy the male" question of why he has to work harder than her to meet women

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem' I think you couldve been a little more gentle and objective with Snowshoe in the making of your point, but I do agree somewhat. I don't believe that you can possibly appreciate the "dance", the intricacies or the complexities of an open relationship unless you've been in one. As a result, I've skimmed over the contributions of those who've piped up with something to say here who haven't actually ever experienced the dynamic. Sal was making an observation that is pertinent to open relationships, not just asking the blanket "oh poor Andy the male" question of why he has to work harder than her to meet women I like snowy it was all in fun , plus it ,s working for him , you feeling sorry for him . Me being harsh , just make him look more sweet (-; have a great weekend everone

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Hotsexycouple88' Snow shoe . I all ready said it was to late for you ???? I talking to other single guys that it might not be to late , Your a very nice guys & you write very well , but you are a pussy . We are not a couple as you know it , WE are in a open relationship , I have got two lovers at this time , very deep love . ( yes I,m very lucky ) But like most old single guys you think you know every thing, ( a open relationship is far to hard to explain to you , since you don,t understand the simple abc of woman & the bacis relationship Don,t change it ,s to late for you , you to set in your ways , this is just a waring to other single guys not to listen to you . To put this in context , I think you a very nice guy , & would do ok with woman in a another place ( site ) most of thing thigs you say are mostly right, But omg this site is not suited for you . You must feel this by now ??? this site is for player , you can be a nice player , but you can,t be a pussy . O i do think you a good guy & I ,m sure you might get some mail saying how wrong I,m lol (-: So all you girls that think I,m wrong , going over & F uc k Snowy (- I don't see anything in your messages that indicates that you're interested in discussing the variety of ways that people use RHP - it seems to me that you're just using insults to spoil for a fight. If I was more concerned about what other people thought of me or less confident about what I like, I might bite, but I'm not going to.I'm not trying to convince young guys to do anything - I don't care who does what here. You've got something that works for you? Good for you. Given that your situation is somewhat unconventional, I would have thought you'd be more open-minded about how the rest of us conduct ourselves - apparently not.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem' I think you couldve been a little more gentle and objective with Snowshoe in the making of your point, but I do agree somewhat. I don't believe that you can possibly appreciate the "dance", the intricacies or the complexities of an open relationship unless you've been in one. I wasn't discussing the intricacies of an open relationship, I was addressing the statement:Simple supply and demand, ALL men want mindless sex ALL of the time with little or no extra criteria whereas only SOME women want mindless sex SOME of the time and they may have a list of criteria...My answer about "what men want all the time" was based on my maleness, not my relationship status. As I am a man and I don't want mindless sex all the time, I think it's reasonable that I point out that the statement is untrue. The rest of the fluff is irrelevant - it's just games.

  • RogueGeek

    RogueGeek

    14 years ago

    Poor Nick... Such an arsehole... but at least you're a cute one!Now if only I could figure out what you're replying to :/You should try being the 'gay best friend' when you're a girl... It's much worse...Cheers,MS(the female half) Quoting 'Nick_Wilde' I think its called being male. Then again, I'm a genuine asshole and still don't get any. So maybe I should try being more of a nice guy but then I'll be relegated to that awful role of psuedo-gay best friend. The one who instead of getting my dick sucked, has to hear about it the next day over coffee, which I will through no fault of my own spill on the woman's chest, probably out of spite for what she's about to tell me. Apparently men = scum of the earth, and men in couples = cheating scum of the earth. Note the feminist hypocrisy on show... god knows I do.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem' I think you couldve been a little more gentle and objective with Snowshoe in the making of your point, but I do agree somewhat. I don't believe that you can possibly appreciate the "dance", the intricacies or the complexities of an open relationship unless you've been in one. I wasn't discussing the intricacies of an open relationship, I was addressing the statement:Simple supply and demand, ALL men want mindless sex ALL of the time with little or no extra criteria whereas only SOME women want mindless sex SOME of the time and they may have a list of criteria...My answer about "what men want all the time" was based on my maleness, not my relationship status. As I am a man and I don't want mindless sex all the time, I think it's reasonable that I point out that the statement is untrue. The rest of the fluff is irrelevant - it's just games. I just think it so funny every thing snowy writs , he just sooo good with woman lol what charm , he will have flirty bi eating out of his hands now. yes yes i know old people just like to make a point .

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Hotsexycouple88'I just think it so funny every thing snowy writs , he just sooo good with woman lol what charm , he will have flirty bi eating out of his hands now. yes yes i know old people just like to make a point . Despite being attached at the moment, based on her profile, Flirty is just the sort of woman that I like meeting. It seems that what you're saying is that the women on RHP that I seek exist, and that I'm charming enough to meet them. Thanks mate - you've been my best advertisement all week.Playing the age card when you're only 7 years younger is pretty funny. I think you'll find that if you offer what they want, many women don't really care that much. Besides, once you're in your 40s, it's all much of a muchness... and anyway, with age comes wisdom, so there's hope for all of us.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Again, sidestepping the drama... Salina I think that's just indicative of some of the stereotypical differences between most men and women's communication styles. I'd think that most men would be happy with brief, to the point messages to arrange time and place. Meanwhile most women would want a little more insight into the person and to begin to feel at ease. Obviously there are going to be exceptions either side. There's me, the long-winded man who scares women away with his in-depth messages, and there are women who jump straight to the point and would even skip the whole sending messages stage altogether if they could. So if Andy wants to meet with a woman, it's likely he's going to have to jump through her communication hoops. Salina, if you want to meet with a man, (and there are more of those available on RHP in the first place), you're much more likely to only need to arrange when and where. That just seems to be how it is... Happy texting, Andy!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Hotsexycouple88'I like snowy it was all in fun , plus it ,s working for him , you feeling sorry for him . Me being harsh , just make him look more sweet (-; have a great weekend everone I just think it so funny every thing snowy writs , he just sooo good with woman lol what charm , he will have flirty bi eating out of his hands now. yes yes i know old people just like to make a point . Ummm ... to clarify, I took one line from a comment you made, commented on its relevance to Sal's original observation and expanded on it. I fail to see any merit to tying me into your erm .. debate with Snowshoe. I was giving my opinion and I am more than happy to stand by my original response to you. . Fortunately, my opinions are fairly solid and sound at the best of times, therefore it becomes easier to open my mind to those of others. Most of the time. I don't feel any need to "feel sorry" for Snowshoe, nor do I feel inclined to "eat out of his hands" (no offense Snowshoe LOL) as a result of the contributions he makes to the forums. He is more than capable of holding his own LOL, which he has demonstrated here without feeling the need to denigrate someone else in the process. Might I kindly request Hotsexycouple88, that you just read (or not, I'm not fussed either way) my remarks in these forums in future and suppress the need to weave them into your own agenda? . Thanks!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    .... And some men just seem to have no bloody sense of humor at all! Now if you missed it, that was meant to be patronizing deary!!!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    As it wasn't relevant I didn't think I had to spell out all the jungle laws but yes MOST men do seek something deeper, even the ones that aren't pussies but this still doesn't preclude them from wanting mindless sex all the time anyway, does it??? Snow, if you really are such a Man of higher values wtf are you doing here surely RSVP would be a better bet? To explain my first post further 1/ I really did think the Girlies comments were cute and wasn't patronizing at all 2/ the post was an unabashed ploy to get into Sal and Andy's pants as I really do feel we could have both types if fun with them, that'd be mindless sex and mindful conversation. Waddayareckon Sal?

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    I best try and be serious now, lets see how I go! Open relationships, we have toyed with the idea and mentally we can see how it may work and we are open to be open but it just doesn't seem to work in reality for us. Firstly, we just don't have the spare time. When we do we like to spend it together so rarely have time on our hands to pursue separate connections. We do have an understanding that if either of us meet someone by chance that rocks our world then we are to Rock it!!!! Me being a forum junky have had a few that rock my mind on here and I'd love to meet them in the flesh but again just haven't found the time....yet.... you know who you are ;) One thing that may hold Andy up though is the way men and women might regard the open relationship thing. Like my first comment, if a man is turned on by woman (ok snowy this can be mental and physical) then he is likely to accept the open relationship thing and get it on. I feel (and as I am a man without a pussy this is just an idea not an absolute) that women might find it harder to get past it. They might feel more unease that its cheating the sisterhood or see no future if they indeed do get a little attached. Again jungle law states (ok if not bleeding obvious this is not 100% serious now) that if woman wants sex with man, she gets it. So maybe the women Andy has contacted thought it less complicated to just meet up with a single guy instead leaving poor Andy out in the cold? Geez I hope I didn't offend anyone this time :)

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'puppy' As it wasn't relevant I didn't think I had to spell out all the jungle laws but yes MOST men do seek something deeper, even the ones that aren't pussies but this still doesn't preclude them from wanting mindless sex all the time anyway, does it??? Snow, if you really are such a Man of higher values wtf are you doing here surely RSVP would be a better bet? To explain my first post further 1/ I really did think the Girlies comments were cute and wasn't patronizing at all 2/ the post was an unabashed ploy to get into Sal and Andy's pants as I really do feel we could have both types if fun with them, that'd be mindless sex and mindful conversation. Waddayareckon Sal? Ahhh, so "ALL men want mindless sex ALL of the time with little or no extra criteria" actually means "MOST men do seek something deeper". Clear as mud.I'm here because I do have values, not in spite of the fact. I tend to date women in their 30s and the pickings on RSVP are great - a lot of attractive women and because you pay to send them, messages are pretty well always answered. All you have to do is send them a reasonably articulate note and getting a date is usually not far off. The issue for me is that because of their age, many of them are seeking a husband and kids - something that I'm not interested in at all. I could spin them a line and get into their pants until they realise that I'm not the marrying type, but that's a terribly cruel thing to do to someone. It's taking advantage of them and although I could likely get more sex there than here, I'd feel like a real shit for doing it.It's pretty sad when I get ridiculed and have to defend myself for daring to suggest that I have more to offer a woman than just sex. Some of you people ought to take a good, hard look at yourselves.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'puppy' One thing that may hold Andy up though is the way men and women might regard the open relationship thing. Like my first comment, if a man is turned on by woman (ok snowy this can be mental and physical) then he is likely to accept the open relationship thing and get it on. I feel (and as I am a man without a pussy this is just an idea not an absolute) that women might find it harder to get past it. They might feel more unease that its cheating the sisterhood or see no future if they indeed do get a little attached. I have no experience with open relationships, but for what it's worth, I think puppy is on the mark with this. Women like the idea that they could forge a deeper connection with a man, regardless of whether they choose to take up that option or not. With Andy, that choice is removed - if they did find themselves getting attached, it would feel more like cheating than playing with a man in an open relationship.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem' Quoting 'Hotsexycouple88'I like snowy it was all in fun , plus it ,s working for him , you feeling sorry for him . Me being harsh , just make him look more sweet (-; have a great weekend everone I just think it so funny every thing snowy writs , he just sooo good with woman lol what charm , he will have flirty bi eating out of his hands now. yes yes i know old people just like to make a point . Ummm ... to clarify, I took one line from a comment you made, commented on its relevance to Sal's original observation and expanded on it. I fail to see any merit to tying me into your erm .. debate with Snowshoe. I was giving my opinion and I am more than happy to stand by my original response to you. . Fortunately, my opinions are fairly solid and sound at the best of times, therefore it becomes easier to open my mind to those of others. Most of the time. I don't feel any need to "feel sorry" for Snowshoe, nor do I feel inclined to "eat out of his hands" (no offense Snowshoe LOL) as a result of the contributions he makes to the forums. He is more than capable of holding his own LOL, which he has demonstrated here without feeling the need to denigrate someone else in the process. Might I kindly request Hotsexycouple88, that you just read (or not, I'm not fussed either way) my remarks in these forums in future and suppress the need to weave them into your own agenda? . Thanks! I really think , you read , far to much into a simple remark , You should mmm maybe go out more . get a hobby , how about fishing , i be told it very relaxing .

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Hey Snowy you're over complicating a relatively simple evolutionary fact. Of course ALL men want great sex all the time but mate that doesn't preclude us wanting something deeper as well. Sorry if you feel I ridiculed you but I was just having a playful poke, just as I was in my first post. It was you who took the bait when there was no hook to snare you. Oh I just saw a fishing remark above, ha how funny!Snow you seem like a decent fellow but I don't really get what you offer that is so much more than sex or a relationship? So you don't want sex just for the fun of it, you want a deeper connection? But then you don't want that to move into a relationship? How's this work? How do you have great sex and a great connection with someone without at least one wanting a bit more. Sounds to me like you'd hurt a few hearts no matter how open and honest you are.Reminds me of when I was off the market by my own choice. I had women throw themselves at me even though I was very honest in that I didn't want a relationship at that time. I held out for some time but then let a few in under my honest and open terms. Well my honesty didn't stop them from wanting more and ultimately getting hurt now did it?Also reminds me of a friend of a friend who was (maybe still is) a RSVP player. This guy is super intelligent by most standards and would use his great intellect to woo women over the ether and have them begging him to come around and share it all with them. Which he would, once, then bleat on how they just were not his intellectual equal. Bad, bad form and Snow you don't sound at all like him but really the line blurs between honesty to protect others and honesty to get what you want, namely sex, while seeming to be a good bloke.Hope you get my point without taking offense as none intended.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    lolz. I love how these topics go off teh rails for no apparent reason. For a love in.. I'm sensing a whole lot of tension that needs some kind of relief.... you know... a group massage or somatt. Maybe RHP could orgynise such a thing.HUgsStalky

  • RogueGeek

    RogueGeek

    14 years ago

    but then, maybe I am using a different definition of 'relationship'.I think what Snowshoe might be saying is something along the lines of, he wants to recognise his sexual partners as human beings (and have the favour returned) and not just view them as 'walking meat sacks'. To be honest, I agree with him. The way some people talk about potential 'play mates' I find is quite dehumanising: these 'playmates' are essentially reduced to torsos-with-cock (or vagina as the case may be). As part of a couple, I'm not looking for a 'relationship, in the long-term-committed-exclusive sense, but I definitely want to connect with people beyond the physical level. Some of the best experiences I've had have been very intimate - mentally, physically and emotionally - but with the clear understanding that it is a casual encounter and that there is no 'end game' so-to-speak. Nobody was hurt - quite the opposite! Cheers,MS(the female half) Quoting 'puppy' Snow you seem like a decent fellow but I don't really get what you offer that is so much more than sex or a relationship? So you don't want sex just for the fun of it, you want a deeper connection? But then you don't want that to move into a relationship? How's this work? How do you have great sex and a great connection with someone without at least one wanting a bit more. Sounds to me like you'd hurt a few hearts no matter how open and honest you are.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'puppy' Hey Snowy you're over complicating a relatively simple evolutionary fact. Of course ALL men want great sex all the time but mate that doesn't preclude us wanting something deeper as well.Dude, I'm not over-complicating anything - the above is exactly what I've been saying from the start, and the opposite of the position that you started with. Sorry if you feel I ridiculed you but I was just having a playful poke, just as I was in my first post. It was you who took the bait when there was no hook to snare you. Oh I just saw a fishing remark above, ha how funny!You didn't ridicule me and I didn't take any bait - I picked you up on something that you seem to have changed your mind about. Snow you seem like a decent fellow but I don't really get what you offer that is so much more than sex or a relationship? So you don't want sex just for the fun of it, you want a deeper connection? But then you don't want that to move into a relationship? How's this work? How do you have great sex and a great connection with someone without at least one wanting a bit more. Sounds to me like you'd hurt a few hearts no matter how open and honest you are.Well, it's off-topic, but yes, FWB can certainly cause people to get hurt. The point is that if you start with very clear parameters and are honest with each other, you minimise the chance of that happening. It's a bit like having a girlfriend (don't read too much into that), but with no issues about exclusivity and no guilt about limiting their involvement in your life. It's a very good model for my personality and is quite common, so obviously works well for others as well. Reminds me of when I was off the market by my own choice. I had women throw themselves at me even though I was very honest in that I didn't want a relationship at that time. I held out for some time but then let a few in under my honest and open terms. Well my honesty didn't stop them from wanting more and ultimately getting hurt now did it?How the hell would I know? Also reminds me of a friend of a friend who was (maybe still is) a RSVP player. This guy is super intelligent by most standards and would use his great intellect to woo women over the ether and have them begging him to come around and share it all with them. Which he would, once, then bleat on how they just were not his intellectual equal. Bad, bad form and Snow you don't sound at all like him but really the line blurs between honesty to protect others and honesty to get what you want, namely sex, while seeming to be a good bloke.There's no line - honesty protects others, gets me sex on terms that I'm happy with and I like to think that it makes me look like a good bloke. I'm not sure what you're suggesting about the intellectual equal stuff, but your friend of a friend sounds like a real dick. Hope you get my point without taking offense as none intended.No, none taken. I may be pedantic and long-winded, but I've got a fairly thick hide...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Hotsexycouple88' OK Last Post.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    wow i wasted so much of my time reading these 45 year olds fight with each other.Thanks for the laughs though

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Snowshoe' No, none taken. I may be pedantic and long-winded, but I've got a fairly thick hide... All good Snowy, that makes two of us!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I ask myself the same question ..am i approaching this wrong?..when i message a someone i just ask if their interested in meeting up somewhere and taking it from there..so far i haven't heard from anyone...so i'm just wondering do i go the blunt option ..want to fuck?.But after scanning the forum threads here its obvious thst's the wrong thing to do too...so its effectively a stalemate.It takes 2 seconds for a reply to happen and i realise that ratio of males to females on here is way out of portion giving the girls the power, so what's guy to do

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Up_2_Mischief' I ask myself the same question ..am i approaching this wrong?..when i message a someone i just ask if their interested in meeting up somewhere and taking it from there..so far i haven't heard from anyone...so i'm just wondering do i go the blunt option ..want to fuck?.But after scanning the forum threads here its obvious thst's the wrong thing to do too...so its effectively a stalemate.It takes 2 seconds for a reply to happen and i realise that ratio of males to females on here is way out of portion giving the girls the power, so what's guy to do Women on here receive dozens of messages a day. A bunch of them are bound to be "wanna fuck?" to which the answer is probably yes, but not necessarily with the sender. A bunch more will be "want to meet up and see where it goes", and really who's got the time to meet that many men every day, just to see where it goes? They probably all started out with good intentions, answering each of these messages with a "thanks, but you're not what I'm looking for. Good luck with your search". But eventually exhaustion will set in, and these messages will be blipped over in the vain hope of coming across a message with a little spark, one that engages with a hint of personality, fun, mischief... anything.So if you want to get a response, put in a bit of effort and write a message that stands out from the crowd, that engages the woman you're sending it to on a personal, individual level. And don't assume you'll be catching up the following day. They've got a hell of a lot of options.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    If you were keen it wouldn't have taken me 3 texts!xx