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The worlds gone made

March 26 2013

I would love to know from both guys and woman there thoughts on the new ages pussy male. The hair care products, the face creams the shaved bodies (ok I'm ok with the crutch shaved) all the things that make a man a girl. I love to see a man who looks after himself but in a manly way not in a feminine way. I love a man to be a man. Nothing turns me more off than to see a nice body all wrecked but a pussy that will take up the bathroom longer than I would. I enjoy the odd mfm with my partner and I would enjoy a nice 25-30 year old guy but most of them are not men anymore. There women with a penis. Again guys, nothing wrong with looking after yourself get rid of the man products. I could be the only one who thinks this way and I probably am but it's only happen in the last 10 years. Imagin the next 10 years, you will all be off the the docs to get your dicks removed.

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  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I think its a generational thing young guys these days seem to be either running around fighting and stabbing each other or pussy whipped and feminised   Its always surprised me how many bi or bi curious guys there are in M/F relationships on this site

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I shaved my head to dispense with hair products and therefore have more time for other things . I wear nice aftershave. I also wash under my Foreskin . Does that make me a MetroSexual Pussy ? GG♒- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    The asymmetrical hairstyles, How the fit into those skinny jeans I dont know (need a shoe horn equivalent).. worst Those tight shorts now.Those white sunnies. The matter of fact sunnies that dont suit your face.Those who only work out on their upper bodies... as I call it "The Johnny Bravo" look.Should have one for those new age dicky females look too - to compliment the new age pussy males

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I still have chest hair, biceps and body oder.But I also know how to dress sharp, weep at a good film and put my arms around someone quietly listening to their problems..Do you think you may be a little general in your observations.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Sorry but there are still manly men around. Maybe you should be looking elsewhere for the menfolk. All the men I know are still manly men (I have a fair few male friends in the 25-35 age bracket). Just because someone takes time to look nice to impress the ladies doesn't mean they are any less manly for it. It just means that they care what women think about them and don't want to come across as neanderthals who have never seen the inside of a shower. I appreciate it when my man takes the time to dress well and groom himself. A well groomed man is damn hot!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Lol, you are such a metrosexual Mr Green!....you will need to drop one of the three. Which will it be?? Quoting 'MisterGreen'I shaved my head to dispense with hair products and therefore have more time for other things . I wear nice aftershave. I also wash under my Foreskin . Does that make me a MetroSexual Pussy ? GG♒- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    It's a generational thing. I don't mind the products so much but I dislike the the super skinny look, skinny jeans and those haircuts the young guys all have these days. I find it effeminate (is that the correct word?) My god, some of those kids in the boy bands are wearing cardigans!! Now that is mad!! Lolz But in our day a man had to be a "man" and stuff. :P

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I think the dick removal comment is a bit rough. It's just a fashion thing. I am sure older people thought the same about us when we were in our 20's... Particularly when long hair for men was in fashion. Although pussy male is kinda funny. Hahaha

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Couldn't agree more!I hate seeing my fellow men being confused. Sometimes I feel the urge to go up and ask for the culprit to hand in their Man Card.Regards,An Alpha Male

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Guess I'll have to stop shaving under my Foreskin ;) GG♒- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I love it when the generation raised on Bowie gets worked up about effeminate men.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I DIDN'T call myself a fckn caveman!!   RETROSEXUAL!! Go Google it... but.. here is a quick view of SOME of our labels   METROSEXUAL: Bloke who likes aftershave, designer clothes and a back, sack & crack. RETROSEXUAL: Hairy-chested pint drinker. He won’t apologise for farting in front of the missus. DEBTROSEXUAL: Wears the latest designer togs despite being up to his eyeballs in debt. PETROSEXUAL: Bloke who is “owned” by his girlfriend in the way one may own a dog. WETROSEXUAL: Wants people to think he’s hard but secretly he’s scared of spiders. FRETROSEXUAL: Is in a panic because he doesn’t fit into any of the above categories.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    As a man who tries to maintain a balance of Metro to Caveman (I did say try!) I feel somewhat offended when I see two cute girls walking down the street only to find that one is the boyfriend!   They wear the same cloths, the same makeup and obviously have the same hair care regime. What the!?!?!?   Men should have some semblance of manhood to them if for no other reason so the rest of us can tell them apart from their girlfriend.   I think there is also a bit of a trend for some girls to be a little too boyish as well... but that I can live with because I accept they may not want me perving on them

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    ....don't start mentioning Boy George or Freddie Mercury either! Quoting 'neptune_drift'I love it when the generation raised on Bowie gets worked up about effeminate men.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I was far brought up on Bowie but the crap music around now I would pick shitty Bowie over it anywad doof doof doof. I'm an old school punk rocker babe. Go on iTunes and buy yourself a couple of songs from t.s.o.l maybe "no time" that's good music. I'm not saying all you men are pussies but a lot are taking is abit far. I work I the city and I just piss myself most days watching the so called men checking them selfs out in all the shop windows thinking know one is looking. There worst than us girl. It shits me.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Put some pants on. Pussy makes should be seen not heard. ;-) Gawd that cracks me up for some reason. Pussy male. It's a sure sign I didn't get enough sleep over the weekend.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Another one that gives me a giggle. My mans a builder and he goes through that many carpenters with flash uses that won't carry a thing in them. Same answer to picking something up every time. I don't want to scratch it. It drives him crazy and he just gets rid of them and I can see why. You look so flash but I don't know how you will pay for it when you won't really work. But to the young men who are men. Yum yum x

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    headed up past nimbin area.. saw a person on the side of the road hitch hiking.. Thought to myself.. "WTF... I give it a lift.." The hiker climbs in..and sits there... All dressed up funny.. long hair.. hard to tell if it was male or female.. I looked over at it.. and took off driving.. Didn't bother saying anything..   sure enough.. it talks.. Damn it..   "OK! OK!.. ask the question.....!" "What question?" I asked "If I am male or female.. it is what I NORMALLY get asked first up.." I replied... "I don't give a fck what you are.. I am going to fck you anyway!!"

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'bisubtouse' I was far brought up on Bowie but the crap music around now I would pick shitty Bowie over it anywad doof doof doof. I'm an old school punk rocker babe. Go on iTunes and buy yourself a couple of songs from t.s.o.l maybe "no time" that's good music. I'm not saying all you men are pussies but a lot are taking is abit far. I work I the city and I just piss myself most days watching the so called men checking them selfs out in all the shop windows thinking know one is looking. There worst than us girl. It shits me. So it was The Ramones, Sex Pistols, The Clash, that sort of thing? Sure, because none of those guys ever wore skin-tight jeans, or spent more than 20 seconds in the mirror doing their hair!!!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Yes your right but hats just he music I'm not wanting to fuck them. But they arnt all crying in there songs singing about love and all that girly crap the guys go on about now. Even your pic with a bottle of wine? Where your beer.lol Joking babe nothing wrong with the odd wine but its close to what I'm talking about.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    to lull young women into a false sense of security....and or,take ya pick..the genY peeps are soooo narcissistic they just wanna fuck themselves

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'neptune_drift'I love it when the generation raised on Bowie gets worked up about effeminate men. the same thing

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    its time to show them the door. I dont mind a man who uses moisturiser though....goodness knows, the aging skin soaks that up...lol

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Well, Actually I don't mind it....I don't mind who put in the effort - however it has to stop with Skinny Jeans (half way down their butts), a Flenno and knee high ugg boots...nah not for me. ewwwwwwwwwwwww!!They fascinate some of the Gen Y's...Around Midnight last Saturday night, whilst I was in Fortitude Valley, I sat in a Cafe shop window enjoying "People watching at the young'uns:...OH MY GWAAAAAAAAAD some of the GEN Y's and what they were wearing!! Some of the men looked ok - however I did have a few giggles at some of the women!! The way they dressed and the shoes they were wearing, they were walking like new born baby Giraffes in their heels...it was a crack up!!Foxy

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I'm with you on this , it makes me so mad !!!! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    But it does appear if many are just overdoing it. I don't spend much time primping and preening. Well lets face it... This Lily needs no gilding. :) If a man is gonna spend sooo much on hair care, skin care regimes it takes time and money away from me. And THAT is not on, especially as the very best skin conditioner comes from what we eat and drink rather than what we slather on. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    (and this is very much a generalisation so don't spank my ass until I say it's ok) but it's not so much with the cosmetic stuff, more in their attitude. In some 'men' in their 20's and 30's I feel a self absorbed edge. I can't quite put my finger on it. Entitlement? Inflated sense of self? I am awesome because my parents have told me so all my life and if they didn't I might sue them later in my life and blame them for all of my shortcomings ... (ok I'll breathe now)Strength of character and a genuine respect for other people are a lost art me thinks. And no amount of hair products and skin cream can make up for a lack of that. Maybe I'm just getting old?

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'cavey50' I DIDN'T call myself a fckn caveman!!   RETROSEXUAL!! Go Google it... but.. here is a quick view of SOME of our labels   METROSEXUAL: Bloke who likes aftershave, designer clothes and a back, sack & crack. RETROSEXUAL: Hairy-chested pint drinker. He won’t apologise for farting in front of the missus. DEBTROSEXUAL: Wears the latest designer togs despite being up to his eyeballs in debt. PETROSEXUAL: Bloke who is “owned” by his girlfriend in the way one may own a dog. WETROSEXUAL: Wants people to think he’s hard but secretly he’s scared of spiders. FRETROSEXUAL: Is in a panic because he doesn’t fit into any of the above categories.       Give me metrosexual everyday of the week.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    In my day young whipper snappers we wore makeup and hair product too, but we had to carve it out of wood!Smartarse kids these days with their fancy aerosols and tubes, we had to carry ours in a swag!And try cultivating one of those fancy new moustaches when you have to trim it with a scythe!Ah the good old days...Mr C

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    It takes me ages to get ready for a night out suited up, hair, nails scrubbed etc... and I love getting dressed up. But then I also put cattle through yards, do fencing etc etc... It's all about balance I think..... Off to get a beer and watch Australia beat Oman, go you Aussies, world cup here we come.... Just remind me never to get into a truck with you Cavey...

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'neptune_drift' I love it when the generation raised on Bowie gets worked up about effeminate men. Just saying ....

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Well of course the guys work on just their upper bodies...if they did some squats and toned up their legs they wouldn't be able to squeeze them into those horrific skinny jeans would they now?

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    My Man is Well Groomed, Well dressed & Well Spoken with a bad boy Edge ...He is Intelligent, Adventurous & playful & he is no pussy! He is a Real Man ... A very Sexy Man Thats what I like

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' It's a generational thing. I don't mind the products so much but I dislike the the super skinny look, skinny jeans and those haircuts the young guys all have these days. I find it effeminate (is that the correct word?) My god, some of those kids in the boy bands are wearing cardigans!! Now that is mad!! Lolz But in our day a man had to be a "man" and stuff. :P Cos Emo's suck!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'paintme' (and this is very much a generalisation so don't spank my ass until I say it's ok) but it's not so much with the cosmetic stuff, more in their attitude. In some 'men' in their 20's and 30's I feel a self absorbed edge. I can't quite put my finger on it. Entitlement? Inflated sense of self? I am awesome because my parents have told me so all my life and if they didn't I might sue them later in my life and blame them for all of my shortcomings ... (ok I'll breathe now)Strength of character and a genuine respect for other people are a lost art me thinks. And no amount of hair products and skin cream can make up for a lack of that. Maybe I'm just getting old? There are some emerging theories on the self-entitlement feelings of the younger generation. All those participation awards they get at school and sports. Their parents, teachers, coaches etc constantly telling them they are special, that they might have failed but here's an award for trying. It breeds a sense of entitlement, that they deserve everything no matter whether they are able to do the work or not. The theory goes that they are experiencing a much less fulfilling life compared to their older counterparts because they haven't learned how to deal with it when they fail at something. They haven't learned how to be resilient. Big shock when one enters higher education or OMG the real world of having a job!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Unfortunately all my scar are shaving mishaps on my chest. :-(

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    It's NOT because of grooming, skinny jeans or skin care products... These are merely a symptom of the disease. And the disease is advertising pushing a false message of what women want from men, to sell those products to men in the hope it tips the balance of attraction their way. And its the dulling down of masculinity through these lies that is encouraging the era of the wussyboy and the resulting frustration of both men and women. That'll do for now DG

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Well I went to a 20 year school reunion a few years ago and I have to say most of the women looked great. A little older, may a few kilos heavier but still very similar to when we were at school. The men however! Not all mind you but quite a fair few looked years older than the girls. Balding, wrinkley, beer guts, grey hair some were unrecognizable. Something to be said about taking care of yourself. DG your statement is not totally true. The young girls are totally into guys their own age. And I am sure the young people's attitudes were similiar to ours at the same age. Paintme, yes I think it is partly getting older but it's also because a lot of the younger people have not experienced any real hardship or recession and they have always been given everything they could ever want. So why would their attitudes be any different? It's our generation and older who have taught them to be this way.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I agree with Jensta. You have to be well groomed and well spoken. You have to be a gentleman. But tight skinny jeans, weird pretty boy hairdo and also those shitty beanies they all wear is not on. I like to base myself on the 20's sort of male, respectful and always dressed nice, but not poofy new age nice- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Hi I am sure you are a gentleman and not say there isn't gentlemen about in the younger gen but very far and few between. Being a gentleman is being a man. Being a rude bad attitude male like so many is the trait of being a boy and I think a lot of you are going to be boys till the very end. I am sure there is hardly one younger male on here who gives up his seat for a girl/woman/lady on the tram. You would rather have your head down with your head phones on and not are about a sole except your own. I am not try to say all younger men are this way but damn there is a lot. Well groomed taking care of yourself doesn't make you a pussy male but there's grooming and there's grooming. I know I wouldn't want my man smelling better than me that's for sure.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Perhaps the younger men that are partaking in this 'style' or 'look' are trying to attract younger females that desire it?If these actions will achieve them this goal, then who are we to judge their preferences?Not everyone has to fit a cookie cutter build. Hell, I am sure some of our lifestyles shock a vast majority of the population but they are readily accepted here.Saying they are 'pussy males' sounds so draconian and ignorant.If you're not into that, so be it, it is your choice just as much as it is theirs to look that way.Just my 2 cents.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Our youth now love luxury.They have bad manners,contempt for authotity;they show disrespect to their elders and love chatter in place of exercise;they no longer rise when elders enter the room;they contradict their parents,,chatter before company,gobble their food and tyranise their teachers. attributed to Plato quoting Socrates in 380 BC.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Awesome post. :-D

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Maybe they're just comfortable with themselves, and they too like the feeling of rubbing in face cream, or how your own skin feels nice after you shave and have a shower and rub lotion in. I don't do it all the time, but it's a lovely treat when I do. Why shouldn't they enjoy it too. I'm not attracted to feminised men, but a man who takes care of himself might have a clue as to how to enjoy and please a woman. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    ...is probably the sexiest horrible speller I have ever come across.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    But geez you old geezers are hilarious. I can't tell if the majority of these responses are satire or not!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Otori'Cos Emo's suck! There's another one gone to the dark side.Emo's haven't been the punching bag for yeeeeeears. It's been hipsters for a while now. And I ain't talkin' 'bout those swingin' cats getting spaced out at dive jazz joints, skeebapadooba!CF: Portlandia, Bondi Hipsters etc.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    a guy takes care of his looks and hes a 'pussy'? my wife is a beautician/hairdresser....at her prompting, i quite happily shave my bits and my body, exfoliate, moisturise, manicure and pedicure, remove unwanted hair from my ears, nose and eyebrows, and wear sunscreens and take care of my dry extremities (heels/elbows)........ why? because it makes her happy....very much so...and i live with the 'happy wife....happy life' credo in my mind......and hey....it feels great to be pampered, its absolutely sensational to be appreciated and very sexy when your wife leans over and says .....'you smell yummy'...or something suchlike...

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    ... loved that one :-) KK

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    13 years ago

    I'm 18 and I've just moved to Sydney not too long ago to try and get into the modelling industry! I want to meet someone who I can just have a great time with and who wants to spoil me! Physically I'm pretty tall, especially seeing as I wear heels everywhere, I've got long blonde hair and blue eyes. I'm pretty thin but I'm pretty busty aswell. My interests include travelling, fashion and modelling!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'neptune_drift' Quoting 'Otori'Cos Emo's suck! There's another one gone to the dark side.Emo's haven't been the punching bag for yeeeeeears. It's been hipsters for a while now. And I ain't talkin' 'bout those swingin' cats getting spaced out at dive jazz joints, skeebapadooba!CF: Portlandia, Bondi Hipsters etc. As metalheads, we are hard wired to hate emo's.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I think you have got yourself confused. :P

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Simply brilliant! :D

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    in 10 years time men will be hairless... oh except for their heads will be covered in it (thanks to hair growing cream..)   just the same as women trying to please men by being skinny and having big boobs..   we are all out there trying.. but some forget who they are and listen to rubbish on forums about "what you must look like to get a root"

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    The guys you are talking about are most probably young and trying to figure themselves out. Who they are, what they want to be. They are easily influenced by advertisements and their peers. The ironic thing is, everyone wants to be unique yet want to blend in so that they don't stand out in their group. Same, same but different? After some time, they will grow up and find their own identity. At the end of the day, it depends on their values rather than how they looks. In the future, we might all look like THX1138. After all, Sigourney Weaver was sexy in Alien 3 (The less said about the movie the better).As for skin products for men, look at the EVO brand. I was given one and love it. The product is good but the packaging is even better. Definitely worth buying to support the Australian company. It is from Adelaide. Some quotes from the bottle:"This product is all about men; engineered by engineers who understand men, are men or want to be men; it's for busy, masculine men. If this balm was any tougher, it would be called universal sweat...for men.""Directions: slap it on, rub it in, towel off the excess. look yourself deep in the eye and say yes."

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'zu7bcv'"This product is all about men; engineered by engineers who understand men, are men or want to be men; it's for busy, masculine men. If this balm was any tougher, it would be called universal sweat...for men.""Directions: slap it on, rub it in, towel off the excess. look yourself deep in the eye and say yes." Insecurity about your masculinity!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'neptune_drift' Quoting 'zu7bcv' "This product is all about men; engineered by engineers who understand men, are men or want to be men; it's for busy, masculine men. If this balm was any tougher, it would be called universal sweat...for men." "Directions: slap it on, rub it in, towel off the excess. look yourself deep in the eye and say yes." Insecurity about your masculinity! read the label tho....its haemorrhoid cream......for assholes...

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    13 years ago

    Too many desk jockeys with too much energy, too much free time and too much money. There was a time when most men used to do hard physical work each day and they got filthy doing it. Now days, in the city at least, most "men" sit in an office for 8 hours a day. Ask any mechanic, getting your skin spotlessly clean at the end of the day is an effort!! Its hard to be a dandy man with grease stains on your hands. So you only "dress-up" for special occasions. But blokes who do desk jobs dont have this problem, most of them seem to enjoy peacocking about. I've just moved from a country town to a capital city and the difference in the standard of "masculinity" is astounding. Somebody should send these prissy boys out the bush for a while for a crash course in toughening up.

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'natashaperry' I've got long blonde hair and blue eyes.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'neptune_drift' Quoting 'zu7bcv'"This product is all about men; engineered by engineers who understand men, are men or want to be men; it's for busy, masculine men. If this balm was any tougher, it would be called universal sweat...for men.""Directions: slap it on, rub it in, towel off the excess. look yourself deep in the eye and say yes." Insecurity about your masculinity! All parts are there. No doubts whatsoever. I'm safe in my masculinity. I do have to say Mike & Shel, I don't need haemorrhoid cream. My movements are regular

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    13 years ago

    I was in Sydney, and had the opportunity to wander around Manly (apparently home to the beautiful people) one weekend evening. It seemed that the blokes, who BTW had some lovely ladies hanging off them seemed to be in a dilemma. That dilemma being, having four tons of hair product and eyebrow moisturiser on but at the same time attempting to look like they'd either just woken up or got back from the tip! Strange days indeed. Gen Y (and Z) - an undeserved sense of entitlement. (A generalisation, I know, but usually holds true).

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'I_Am_The_Hwy' Too many desk jockeys with too much energy, too much free time and too much money. ...I've just moved from a country town to a capital city and the difference in the standard of "masculinity" is astounding. Somebody should send these prissy boys out the bush for a while for a crash course in toughening up. You nailed it in the first line: prissy desk jobs mean they can also afford the lotions, potions, clothes, energy and time to preen. After all, the grease monkey gets to play the 'man', but the desk jockey gets to play the 'boss'.I'm having too much fun in this thread. Masculinity's such a wank.

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    13 years ago

    lookin'for adventure Drift,born to be wild me,oops I dropped a mintie wrapper....spank me Mr.Highway...er please

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Agree to the extent that I too prefer a masculine looking man. Having said that it is none of my business how the youth (or anyone else) presents - their life, their choice. I am massively surprised this has gone 4 pages and no-one else seems to feel the same way??

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'neptune_drift'I'm having too much fun in this thread. Masculinity's such a wank. I'm not meaning to have a go at anyone personally, just this social construction of masculinity. It's such a self-contradictory, ridiculous concept.For a belief system that supposedly values originality, assertiveness, confidence and independence from slavish needs to please/impress others, it's such a rigidly demanding, petty, narrow idea of what's 'right' and 'wrong'. Talk about conformity and submission! I could (and have) debated the social construction of gender all day, as it's one of my favourite things to do (somebody start another 'what is a man?' thread!) However, for the sake of you all (and my schedule) I'll keep this one light."Those lousy yoof!" *shakes fist from my rocking chair on the porch*'

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'neptune_drift' I could (and have) debated the social construction of gender all day, as it's one of my favourite things to do (somebody start another 'what is a man?' thread!) However, for the sake of you all (and my schedule) I'll keep this one light."Those lousy yoof!" *shakes fist from my rocking chair on the porch*' The more things change the more they stay the same. The skinny jean wearing hipsters are just the latest generation of young men rebelling and highlighting their individuality by all looking the same. Teens and young men and women have been doing it forever. Both men and women are slaves to conformity, whether it be the clothes we wear, the music we listen to or the company we keep.For the most part it works, given that the aim is to bond with a social group and to find a mate. The definitions of man and woman are driven by the social company one keeps. In the inner city enclaves the gender boundaries have always been blurred, while in the country boundaries are very clear. It is related to the type of work, but is also driven historically by access to challenging art and ideas in various forms.As the geographical boundaries are broken by the internet and media, and the workplace evolves away from manual labour, the rigid gender stereotypes will broken down in more and more places.Good news for the OP though. There is a new breed of manly man - well dressed, nice scent, educated - but still the confident, strong man many women crave. With penis still attached, and with a much improved knowledge and desire to use it well.I encourage all women to try one, you wont be disappointed!Mr C

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    13 years ago

    I read in an earlier post about my spelling. Lol I re read some and so true, iPads make up ther own words sometimes. It is very interesting to read your responses to this. One of the post stating not as many men do manual labour now so they have more money for these things,that the youth right there. Selfish all about me sort of stuff. Men have always made great money and they didnt feel the need to get a spray tan when I was growing up.As for having more money from less labour and more desk jobs makes me laugh. I'm a lawyer and it took me so many years to work my way up from uni to a good pay. Including uni,lets say 7 years before my,pay was liveable. All the while my builder hubby was making thousands for years and years while I was making next to nothing. I suppose for me it's just not the products ect that's was just an example. The younger gen are nothing like the men of years gone by. All generations have there differences but this generation is almost nothing like any generation before them at all. It's almost like they deleted everything and made up there own style of manhood.

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    13 years ago

    The more I read more I know I'm getting older. But I look at my grandfather my father and there are some differences but more or less they are similar. Then I look at some of the guys I work with who are in there mid to late 20,s than there nothing like any of the men in past generations. The penis is close to the only thing there have in common. What I would give to be able to put this generation back in time, say 20-40 years. There's no way they would make it in life.

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'I_Am_The_Hwy' Too many desk jockeys with too much energy, too much free time and too much money. There was a time when most men used to do hard physical work each day and they got filthy doing it. Now days, in the city at least, most "men" sit in an office for 8 hours a day. Ask any mechanic, getting your skin spotlessly clean at the end of the day is an effort!! Its hard to be a dandy man with grease stains on your hands. So you only "dress-up" for special occasions. But blokes who do desk jobs dont have this problem, most of them seem to enjoy peacocking about. I've just moved from a country town to a capital city and the difference in the standard of "masculinity" is astounding. Somebody should send these prissy boys out the bush for a while for a crash course in toughening up. and jobs are changing as a direct result of that. With the explosion of computer technology, jobs which are based on manual labour are becoming more and more scarce. And the definition (and I hate to use that term here) of a 'man' shouldn't be based on the type of job they do or how much dirt they've accumulated under their nails by the end of the day. And what does being 'tough' mean anyway? Physically tough? Emotionally? You certainly don't need to live in the bush or do back-breaking labour everyday to be either of those. And why are men always expected to be so 'tough' anyway? And why can't they use a few hair or skin products to make themselves feel better and more attractive? So bloody what if they do??Our social constructs of males - indeed of both genders - are so limiting, it's no wonder that both men and women are still so afraid to express their real selves out of fear of how society will react. Most women are still too afraid to express what they want sexually and to try and obtain that, out of fear of being thought of as a slut. Most men are too afraid to express if they are experiencing anxiety, sadness etc., and to seek help, out of fear of being thought of as weak and 'unmanly'. It's all so stupid. We cling so tightly to these gender constructs, we instill them in children right from the first few months of their lives and hence they continue.Hopefully one day we'll get over all this gender pigeon-holing, and companies will finally realise that not all women like pink

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    13 years ago

    in the 50's men were obsessed with stove pipe pants and a product called Brylcream...ever seen a Cliff Richard movie, or Hawaii Five O with Ed Byrnes and his constant combing of his hair...his comb became an icon........James Dean is still an icon.....Grease the movie is another cultural reference for the 50's and men's hair and fashion.....and dont get me started on the Elizabethans....there have always been men who obsessed over their hair .Samson until he met his Waterloo in Delilah was another. Men and fashion,men and hair styles and product is as old as time,just be a student of history and put it into perspective....and don't confuse some man's fashion choice with his so called masculinity or sexuality ...phttt.

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    13 years ago

    I love history Freya. In fact, when did men actually start wearing pants and not tights? Have you seen the Greek guards? Roman guards? The Elizabethans wore more makeup than the women! It's all just the fashion and the older generations are not meant to like it or understand it. ;-)

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Freya77' in the 50's men were obsessed with stove pipe pants and a product called Brylcream...My dad still uses Brylcreem. I practically grew up with it around the house. He swears by it.

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    13 years ago

    gotta love a man who doesn't discriminate... lol

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'neptune_drift' For a belief system that supposedly values originality, assertiveness, confidence and independence from slavish needs to please/impress others, it's such a rigidly demanding, petty, narrow idea of what's 'right' and 'wrong'. Talk about conformity and submission! Thats where I see your application of the theory is incorrect.I am masculine... as a consequence of being myself.And I am not myself consciously so that others may benefit directly.... although, I recognize that they do benefit indirectly.DG

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Quoting 'neptune_drift' Thats where I see your application of the theory is incorrect.I am masculine... as a consequence of being myself.And I am not myself consciously so that others may benefit directly.... although, I recognize that they do benefit indirectly.DG I mean, it's not like you feel the need to assert your masculinity in pretty much every post you make, right?

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Synth' Perhaps the younger men that are partaking in this 'style' or 'look' are trying to attract younger females that desire it?If these actions will achieve them this goal, then who are we to judge their preferences?Not everyone has to fit a cookie cutter build. Hell, I am sure some of our lifestyles shock a vast majority of the population but they are readily accepted here.Saying they are 'pussy males' sounds so draconian and ignorant.If you're not into that, so be it, it is your choice just as much as it is theirs to look that way.Just my 2 cents.I have sat back and watched this thread grow to 4 pages, but I can no longer bite my tongue. I apologise in advance if you are offended by what I am about to say and please note this is only my opinion, just as you have all shared yours.I really hope many of these posts have been said in jest. Who are "we" to judge what others wear and how they groom themselves or the time taken to do so. The term "pussy males" is beyond offensive and to make such generalisations is disappointing to say the least.The only thing I see happening here is a display of attitudes that need adjusting to be more acceptable and respectful of individuals and the choices they make with their own bodies and attire.The youth of today have a hard enough time with being accepted for who they are and the lives they choose to live. Bullying, self harm and suicide are an epidemic and young people need our support, not further ridicule like has been displayed here.

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    13 years ago

    "acceptable and respectful" is of course meant to read "accepting and respectful"

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    13 years ago

    This is why the Union was formed. To many men who don't handle their stuff.The younger generation is to busy having Hollywood as their role models.They have been Becham brainwashed!Who could look up to a man that has his own brand of aftershave ,underpants and gets paid to take a dive and hold his shin!This generation is looking down at an i phone and pressing buttons ,in a cyber world.Power tools ,fishing rods,motor bikes should be the staple of Gen Y and Z!They should be out playing contact sports learning to take a hit and earn respect and be humbled.UNION UNION UNION!

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    13 years ago

    I think it's a good thing that masculinity has a wider definition nowadays. Wider than the man's man sexist pig stereotype of the 50's. Why the hell would we want them to regress? The definition of femininity has changed so much since that time, women can go off and do manly things all the time and no-one bats an eyelid, no-one would be seen dead criticizing them for it because they would get jumped all over quick-smart and beaten down by bra-less hoards. Yet men are forced to stay boxed into a tiny definition of what it means to be a man? One that is incompatible with modern day femininity? How is that possibly fair? Nope! I for one am raising the flag for a wider definition of masculinity. Let them be who they are, express themselves without fear of social reprisals. When one is free to express themselves, they are healthier.

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'MissPoppins'I really hope many of these posts have been said in jest. Who are "we" to judge what others wear and how they groom themselves or the time taken to do so. The term "pussy males" is beyond offensive and to make such generalisations is disappointing to say the least.In all truth, looks do count. What we wear is judged by other people and that is a fact. The two things is that make you stand out is your clothes and that you are confident. Your manners is also on display for people to see. If they want to use products or wear particular style of clothes, go ahead. Nothing wrong with that. One of my ex-students says he always gets harassed by cops because of how he dresses. If I was to go to a board meeting without a suit and tie, I won't be taken seriously. The same with a date. When you go on a date for the first time, what to wear is a big headache. Dress up too much and your date might feel uncomfortably under dressed. Dress up too casually and she thinks you are not making the effort. I do smart casual for dates. Safest way. Youths of today have this big problem because of choice. Suicides are particularly endemic in competitive environments. I know students as young as 10 who learn to play a musical instrument, be a top student, take tuition to get a leg up, play a sport and go swimming. I ask some of them, do you play and they said they don't have time. I had students as young as 18 taking anti-depressants. You might be surprised at how many people say they like choice but do not know how to handle it. They have a hard time deciding and that stresses them out. Advertising and peers might help but in some (most?) cases it does not.

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    13 years ago

    I have been reading this post in great interest I don't say much on here but this one has intrigued me. Think about what we are talking about young men really men because of the way they dress and look. The way i see it is they are trying to find their place in a world that is forever changing, trying new things making themselves look how they think women want them to look so they can get a root. I bet if we went back a few thousand years when cave man was about the women would stone the man if he was not a hunter looked all mean and smelled like fresh rotting meat. We then move forward in time crops are grown houses made to live in the women take care of the house the man provides food to sustain life. I bet in this time if the roles were reversed that family would be called weird. But we have stay at home farther's now. Are they not men because they stay at home and keep house. My hat is off to those men. I could not do it!! It is an ever changing world and if you have got time to run people into the ground for just the way they look and do things maybe you should take a look in the mirror and say what do I want to look like and worry about yourself and not run other people into the ground because they are being theirselves and have a blast. This is not directed at anyone at all just my views and mine alone I am male I work hard with my hands and back. Have been married - divorced have made mistakes have farted and do snore if you don't like me not my problem. I love life and intend on living it to the fullest and let everyone else live theirs with out judgement. Cheers - Posted from rhpmobile

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Otori' Quoting 'neptune_drift' Quoting 'Otori'Cos Emo's suck! There's another one gone to the dark side.Emo's haven't been the punching bag for yeeeeeears. It's been hipsters for a while now. And I ain't talkin' 'bout those swingin' cats getting spaced out at dive jazz joints, skeebapadooba!CF: Portlandia, Bondi Hipsters etc. As metalheads, we are hard wired to hate emo's. OK so i listen to metal and 90's grunge more than any other type of music. I have a shaved head, and wear my tattoos proudly. I hate shaving, but always make sure that any stubble isn't scruffy. I wear aftershave during my day job when I am in a suit and when I am out in formal social situations. I have been coerced by a close friend into wearing skinny jeans and to be honest, they do not worry me, except that they dont go over motorcycle boots, so i have to wear them in the boots. I don't think that makes me a pussy male, but at the same time it probably doesnt place me into the macho stereotype. Funny thing is that ten years ago, I had hair halfway down my back, and was a footbal fanatic. I honestly think that I have changed for the best.As fair as dick removal? If the jeans get any tighter that may be necessary, but i'll be going back to my bootcuts and my flanny then

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    13 years ago

    An alpha male that shaves himself, takes selfies and spends his nights on the lounge with a bottle of wine.........WTF? Then there's the ones who dance with their mates rather than a woman?

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    13 years ago

    Its all about targeting men to buy consumer items, thats all.

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    13 years ago

    I wonder what would have happened if a man (hairy chest, big muscles, unshaved, rugged looking, you know) would have posted the opposite thing. You know, like asking what's up with women these days? Out of the house, out there working, not at home cooking and cleaning, what gives?! What is with these new young women thinking they should have equal pay? Where is the good housewife of yesteryear? First they started wearing shoulder pads to look more like guys, then they stopped wearing dresses and started wearing suits like men, totally unacceptable!Naw, no one would be offended by that now would they.

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'mutefrog69' An alpha male that shaves himself, takes selfies and spends his nights on the lounge with a bottle of wine.........WTF? Then there's the ones who dance with their mates rather than a woman? Actually my first preference is scotch whiskey. In regards to the "selfie", i thought it would be polite to have a picture of myself on here. Due to the fact I don't have social media, I'm lacking any other photos. And really? You want me to list what i get up to when I'm not a law abiding citizen?Pull up mate or loosen your skinny jeans

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    13 years ago

    I happen to like men who are feminine, I haven't yet been with a cross dresser but would like to... But I also like manly men. And girly women. And androgynous women. But they all need to take control when we play, because I am not naturally dominant sexually. I don't want much do I? ;)- Posted from rhpmobile

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    13 years ago

    Touchè

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'MisterGreen' I shaved my head to dispense with hair products and therefore have more time for other things . I wear nice aftershave. I also wash under my Foreskin . Does that make me a MetroSexual Pussy ? GG♒- Posted from rhpmobile

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    13 years ago

    Some great stuff here,I,Shave my head to hide the bald spot,My suntan is real,My ute is diesel not shiny,I own a pair of skinny jeans because I can,I own purple coneys coz they go with my purple shirts,I work with power tools not a mouse,Occasionally I use eyeliner for fun,I moisturise my 53yo skin because,I have two kids who think I'm awesome,And I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks.

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    13 years ago

    Oh and,I have a hairy chest,And wax back crack and sack

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    13 years ago

    Bloody kids woke up at sparrow's fart ...I thought that this summarised my earlier point exactly. It's more the attitude of SOME (NB. NOT ALL) gen Y's, rather than what they look like that I have trouble relating to. Having been a high school teacher for 16 years, I've seen a gradual shift in life expectations, of a sense of responsibility of oneself, God forbid a work ethic ... entitlement ... MKTO 'Thank you'(if you don't want to read all the lyrics just scroll past but I think they're interesting)Yo, this one right hereIs for all the drop out-of-schoolersThe future cougarsThe Mary Jane abusersThe ones that chose to be losersFor all the misfit kids and the total outcastsMKTO, This one’s for youRole modelsWe are the onesThe ones you left behindDon’t tell us howTell us how to live our livesTen million strongWe’re breaking all the rulesThank you for nothingCause there’s nothing left to loseThank you for feeding us years of liesThank you for the wars you left us to fightThank you for the world you ruined overnightBut we’ll be fineYeah we’ll be fineThank you for the world you brokeLike yolk and it ain’t no jokeSo cold and there ain’t no coatJust me my friends my folks andWe gonna do what we likeSo raise that bird up highAnd when they ask you whyJust stand there laugh and smileWe are the onesThe ones you left behindDon’t tell us howTell us how to live our livesTen million strongWe’re breaking all the rulesThank you for nothingCause there’s nothing left to loseNa na na naNa na na na na naNa na na naNa na na na na naThank you for the times you said don’t make a soundThanks for the ropes you used to hold us downCause when I break through I’ma use them to reach the cloudsWe ain’t comin’ downWe ain’t comin’ downLook Ma I finally made itThis world is too damn jadedMy life is just like VegasGo big go home get fadedBeen a prob since ‘92Can’t shut me down curfewAnd them girls I’ll take a fewDo what I wanna doWe are the onesThe ones you left behindDon’t tell us howTell us how to live our livesTen million strongWe’re breaking all the rulesThank you for nothingCause there’s nothing left to loseNa na na naNa na na na na naNa na na naNa na na na na naThank you from the bottom of my heartFrom head to toe from the soul you ripped apartI say thank youI say thank youYeah∦ Oh∦ thank youThank you, thank you Yeah, Yeah∦.We are the onesThe ones you left behindDon’t tell us howTell us how to live our livesTen million strongWe’re breaking all the rulesThank you for nothingCause there’s nothing left to loseWe are the onesThe ones you left behindDon’t tell us howTell us how to live our livesTen million strongWe’re breaking all the rulesThank you for nothingCause there’s nothing left to loseYo if you don’t like what they tell you to doDon’t do itIf you don’t want to be who they want you to beScrew itIt’s your worldIt’s your lifeAnd they ruined itRole modelsTune inTurn upDrop outOh fuck, I think I'm becoming a cranky old bitch lol!!!

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    13 years ago

    Where I come from..   i come from the country.. where men wake before the dawn, and are out working.. slaving theor guts out, to bring you milk, meat, eggs, cereal. and oils.. poughing paddocks.. fighting fores.. fighting insects, and vermin. Men who, in the course of their year, may have to take up their rifles, and go out and shoot a hundred or more of their animals because of bush fire injuries, or because they have been torn to bits by your dogs. Men, whose wives, GLADLY and lovingly make them sandwiches and travel out over the farm to deliver them fresh to their MEN and their SONS. THOSE sons.. who do NOT get the chances to POONCE themselves up to go into clubs and dance venues, because there is WORK TO BE DONE.. There are ISSUE to be taken care of.   Their wives PATCH their trousers, and shirts and jackets.. They TAPE their boots up when they burst open   Sometimes you know.. those MEN are too fckn tired.. too absolutely fried.. to even shower before they crash out.. I have slept in shearing sheds, on verandahs, on and under trucks with those same men or just plain "Lay down and slept' whereever I was.. too tired sometimes to even eat.. BUT.. when something has gone wrong with the neighbour.. these fellas do what they need to secure their homes, then ALL head over and do the neighbours work.. week after week.. month after month..   But.. they stink!! they DO NOT use deodorant, nor do they wax their fckn arse holes, or their backs.. and mostly they dont even shave their faces..   THEY ARE NOT GENTLEMEN?? THEY ARE CRUDE? THEY ARE UNATTRACTIVE? THEY ARE BRUTES?   I tell you what.. Give me THEM ANYDAY..   NOW.. I work construction.. and where we used to be told off for drawing tits everywhere .. the NEW WORKFORCE draw COCKS everywhere.. Go figure...   Sure the world HAS gone mad.. YOU are driving it mad.. YOU are steering it. YOU are the problem   *shrugs*

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    13 years ago

    I have styled hair, go to the gym, wash well, keep my body hair under control, use moisturizers and stuff but I wouldnt call myself feminine? I just look after myself

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    13 years ago

    Soap or shower gel, aftershave, shampoo, tooth paste, pubic hair shaved.... that's all that's needed as far as i am concerned.Silly moisturizer or various other creams and beauty products are rubbish.