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Tattoos and body piercings
December 24 2011
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RHP User
14 years ago
All mine are hidden by clothes during the day, so I can keep up a respectable facade at work. They're also pretty small and tasteful, so I think they'll age pretty well. The only explicit tattoo-related discrimination I've seen is in Japan, where tattoos are not yet popular except among young urban types, and still largely associated with organised crime. When I visited onsen (hot springs) they had a policy of no admission for tattooed people... so I had to cover up with a few strategic band-aids!
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RHP User
14 years ago
and people always make comment when they see them. My profession requires that I shower and change several times a day and when colleagues have caught me in various stages of undress/dress and spot my tatts they always comment with the phrase along the lines as ...."you were the last person I thought would have a tatt !!!" ....I guess you can't judge a book by its cover....as for my intimate piercing, that was the best thing I ever did...Lovers love it...and I adore it..its like my little tiny sexy secret that I spring upon a new lover..Ive had nothing but positive comments on it...and its like a "bullseye" no lover ever misses now !!! and it have given me much pleasure !!! ( no it didnt hurt) As for when Im older..well if Im ever having a post mortem and the doctor locates my intimate piercing, I hope they make comment on the autopsy report..."She was one hot little chickie" ...as for aging with tatts, Im cool with that...both my tatts I actually cant see (lower back and back/shoulder) so I guess if you cant see them, well you dont worry about them...my Jewish grandmother was a prisoner of war during the Holocaust, she wore her branded tattoo on her inner wrist with pride from the concentration camp she survived ..she always told us grandchildren..wear your markings/scars for all to see, they are part of your history of who you are !!!... My parents own a chain of funeral homes in the United States. We are allowed by law to discriminate against a potential employee who is displaying obvious tattoos and piercings....employees are allowed to have them, but if they are obvious, they cannot work on funerals and all staff must be able to do funeral work, iirrespective of their role within the company eg: Receptionist) if we flat out busy and its all hands on deck. No grieving family, no matter how empathetic and caring you are, wants to see the funeral staff, covered in tatts, piercings and having bright blue hair !!!...call this discrimination if you wish, but the courts of America actually ruled in Funeral homes favor, years ago that staff at funeral homes (even in this day and age) had a certain social cconformity to adher to, that the public fully expected and so we do this......Death is still the last bastion and taboo. Staff must be able to fully cover their tatts with clothing - they cannot cover their markings with makeup (it can sweat off) and all piercings must be out when they are working...even if staff have any facial bruising (obtained from say a rough footy session during their time off) they will not be able to work a funeral..... nobody wants to see the person thats caring for their beloved late mother, sporting a shiner... Funny how funeral staff no matter where in the world are still very strick about their dress codes and yet have you been to the ER at your local hospital lately ?...been able to figure out which one is the Chief Resident on duty ??? - His wearing jeans, runners and a Quicksilver T-shirt and your life is in his hands !!!
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Innercircle
14 years ago
1. Yes. But almost without fail they have realised they had judged me too quickly. My favourite moment was a guy on the bus, crapping on about how I'd " wasted money I didnt have, to spend it on tattoos". The very next day I bumped into this guy at my accountant.We recognised each other straight away. He'd walked in asking who owned the "awesome car in the carpark?". He then had to sit down and wait while the accountant verbally confirmed my post tax income. The accountant then made a joke about how I should go spend some more on some tattoos, "cause you'll have to start spending some of this" and then he turned to the other guy, and said "you're here for the bankruptcy filing, right?". Gold :)2. Id rather look like I want to look now, then have a regret about NOT doing it later. Fact is, Im not going to look how I want to when Im all old and wrinkled, so may as well look how I prefer now. Tattoo quality and inks have come a VERY LONG way in the last 15 years, and fading and blurring is not as extensive as it used to be. Hell, even removal techniques have come along in leaps and bounds.From my experience, the only people who dont like tattoos, dont have any. Your choice. I dont like your grey hairs either. Im not going to be offended because you choose to have them :P
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RHP User
14 years ago
I love a nicely done, well placed tattoo. I have a blue butterfly on my bikini line and i just got a gorgeous bomber girl (40's pin up/nose art girl) on my shoulder blade. She's hot. I adore her. Not likely to change my mind. I live and work in a very, very conservative community and system so they are both fairly discreet. I'm picky about tattoos though, they need to be of fabulous quality, my guy was top of the line anywhere in the world. He did the most beautiful job. I don't fancy boob tats, tribal tats on white guys look fucking rediculous but hey, whatever floats your boat. There are some that are just tacky but others argue that ALL of them look tacky. Meh... Quite fond of intimate piercings but probably won't get any done myself. Will i regret it, nope. I chose very carefully and didn't get it done when i was young, drunk or on crack. I won't be getting anymore because i think a 3rd will drag me over from hot into tacky (don't get your bloomers in a twist, i mean FOR ME) Ende
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RHP User
14 years ago
You can not assume that because someone does not like tattoos they have grey hair. That is just as bad a stereotype. Many people with grey hair have tattoos and many people your age dont like them. It has nothing to do with hair colour.
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RHP User
14 years ago
nudge.....i think you missed the point sweet. never mind, happens to al of us
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RHP User
14 years ago
Rockercouple - where did I say I didn't like tattoos, I could be covered in them for all you know and been a victim of what I wrote about! Handmaiden - thank you, and hell I like my grey hair, at least it is still there :DNow an explanation: I really don't care if someone has tatts or not, it is their choice. But there has been two instances where it has affected me. Both occurred about 5 years ago when I was still in uniform. Two of my staff (both female) went on stress leave and subsequently cost me a lot of manhours. One was about to get married, and had set her heart on a backless gown, unfortunately the full shoulder to should back tatt she got in her youth (2 years previous) stood out rather severely, much to her angst. Lost her for one month stress leave, then after countless counseling sessions that I had to oversee, another month whilst it was removed. The second was even worse, young girl, determined to do her 'thing' met the love of her life. To prove her love, she got his name tattooed on arm. And you guessed it, I don't think the ink was dry before they broke up. Again, stress leave, trips to medical, tattoo removal at public expense, time off to recover. My last explanation is, I think, I little more serious. An ex (thankfully) friend of my daughters came to me for advice. Her parents are 'new age' and are determined to allow her to do whatever she wants, no rules in that house. She had just dropped out of NIDA - how dare they expect her to turn up every morning and do homework in her own time - and was having trouble getting a job. Now this girl was an INDIVIDUAL, buxom, always wore clothes two sizes too small, pink and purple hair (well it was during this episode), both arms tattooed, two lip rings and a stud, two nose rings and one small tear tattooed on her cheek. The problem was she wanted a job as a receptionist at a upper scale law firm and couldn't work out why they would not even give her an interview. Didn't really matter she wasn't qualified for the job anyway. To be honest, if I ran an upmarket office where suits are the norm, I wouldn't hire her as I think (yes this is my own personal opinion) that as the first person a client would see, she would give an image of the company I would not want.As I said, I am not against tattoos but I do think there is going to be a very big market in the removal of them in a few years time.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I am in covered in tattoos and it gets to a point where you no longer see them. I currently don't care about regrets i may or may not have when I'm 50. Chances are I won't care then either as it will be done & dusted. Most people that mention them it is usually out of interest or curiousity. I knew since I was a kid I would be covered in them. I did experience some discrimination in japan I guess but that's cultural and I don't expect any different as I am a guest in the country. In other asian countries people often assumed I was a gangster or something as I was constantly asked but again it doesn't bother me really. As for girls with tattoos I love it. Bright colorful sleeves, whoo hoo! My lady has a few but keeps it sensible. I am lucky she kept me in check at a younger age so I didn't get any on my hands or neck....with long sleeves And long pants I can cover up...
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RHP User
14 years ago
I have some greys ( I don't particularly like them either), I have ink that I can either hide or I can show it off (which I always do. Lol) and I did have my cock pierced (until ex kept complaining) I liked it, other girls did, and I will get it done again. If u look after yourself then the ink won't look too bad when you're older.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'rockercouple80' The very next day I bumped into this guy at my accountant.We recognised each other straight away. He'd walked in asking who owned the "awesome car in the carpark?". He then had to sit down and wait while the accountant verbally confirmed my post tax income. The accountant then made a joke about how I should go spend some more on some tattoos, "cause you'll have to start spending some of this" and then he turned to the other guy, and said "you're here for the bankruptcy filing, right?". Gold :)I'd fine me a new accountant. One with a smaller mouth.
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RHP User
14 years ago
By reading some of these posts.....some live in lala land and forget post to post what their career is....and some are more discriminative than people without tattoo's! I like originality....tattooed or not....it's the person that counts! xFunlovingx
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DonnaBrett
14 years ago
Personally I'm not a fan of body piercings except on ears..but to each their own. Tattoos however, I have a few. I have never been judged by them and quite frankly don't care what people think anyway. As rockercouple said, the only people who condemn tatts are those that don't have them. I think the only people that will regret their tatts are the ones that get something on a whim..or follow some fad (ie: tribal armbands, eventually all these white guys will realise they aren't a Moari chief LOL ). All my tatts have a special meaning...I would never go in and just pick some random design from a book...big mistake...pay attention girls who think a dolphin or fairy on your shoulder looks cute..yeah it might when you're 18....but when you're 58 you may think differently!! Before getting inked you must decide then that this will be something you will be happy to carry to the grave!! The names of GFs. BFs, Husbands or wives..also a big mistake..your kids names..fine!The bottom line is..don't get a tatt just for the sake of it...it has to mean something. I first thought about the tatt I wanted when I was 15...I didn't get it until I was 34...and it's only small. Sixteen years I thought was a fair cooling off period !! LOL
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RHP User
14 years ago
Yes, A family member working with the public with a bank had to keep them covered and even had some removed. We think its similiar to the our kids with their first cars, they have to flash it up neons, loud pipes etc, and then complain because the coppers assist them with the priviledge of paying more taxes.......suppose if you draw attention to yourself!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Rockercouple - please point out the text where I said I didn't have tattoos or didn't like tattoos or didn't like people with tattoos. You seem to jump to conclusions very easily, bit thin skinned I imagine. Handmadien - thank you for sticking up for me. And I happen to be proud of my grey hair, for starters it is still thereI created this topic because of a discussion I had recently with an ex friend of my daughters (thankfully ex now). She had dropped out of NIDA and had set her heart on a job as a receptionist at a certain high profile law firm. Unfortunately her parents are New Age, meaning they refuse to say no to their daughter and are absolutely no use in guiding her into adulthood. The young lady in question is overweight but insists on wearing clothes at least two sizes too small, vividly multicoloured hair, has both arms covered in tatts, two lip rings and a stud, two nose rings and a tear tattooed on her cheek. Yet she couldn't understand why she couldn't even get an interview for the job.Yes I am old I guess as I can understand why the firm wouldn't employ her. She would be the first person a client would meet when entering and would be so out of place amongst the suits and perceived class of the establishment that it would be unworkable.
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Innercircle
14 years ago
Even with a tongue sticking out at the end, you still didnt get the sarcasm?? Quoting 'Handmaiden' You can not assume that because someone does not like tattoos they have grey hair. That is just as bad a stereotype. Many people with grey hair have tattoos and many people your age dont like them. It has nothing to do with hair colour.
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Innercircle
14 years ago
Its only money. Who cares what someone earns? Regardless, it was me saying "so I was right, it come to around $xxxxxx?" and he confirmed.Most people are all secretive about their earnings, yet are quite willing to crap on about their bills, mortgage, how much their car cost, and a whole range of things which clearly give some idea of their income. I work my arse off, Im proud of my income. I don't shout it from the mountain top, but I dont see the point of it being more secretive than an ASIO operation... Quoting 'Jean_Girard' Quoting 'rockercouple80' The very next day I bumped into this guy at my accountant.We recognised each other straight away. He'd walked in asking who owned the "awesome car in the carpark?". He then had to sit down and wait while the accountant verbally confirmed my post tax income. The accountant then made a joke about how I should go spend some more on some tattoos, "cause you'll have to start spending some of this" and then he turned to the other guy, and said "you're here for the bankruptcy filing, right?". Gold :)I'd fine me a new accountant. One with a smaller mouth.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'xFunlovingx' By reading some of these posts.....some live in lala land and forget post to post what their career is....and some are more discriminative than people without tattoo's! I like originality....tattooed or not....it's the person that counts! xFunlovingxLOLOLOLOL
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RHP User
14 years ago
noticed any form of discrimination directed towards people with tattoes in the workplace, but in a social setting...yes... But it more of an overall appearance...such as the biker look...nothing wrong with that...some of my friends belong to motorcyle clubs..but they seem to be shunned by others because of the way they are dressed and the heavily tattoed skin...But the same heavily tattoed skin on a Football playing hero...well that seems to be socially acceptable somehow... I guess it is all subjective...much the same as older men who wear sandals and long socks...they could be the worlds best lover...give you mind blowing orgasms...but all I see is Grandpa....
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RHP User
14 years ago
in both work and social settings .. Dont have tatts my self .. or intimate piercings ... but some tatts do receive discrimination from both professional and social settings .. but like slk37 said .. have you checked out the head of the A & E departments lately ../ Many years ago .. as a member of a motorcycle race club .. we held our yearly CLUBMAN RALLEY down on the Murry river, at a place called Talmallow ..a change from the Warrambungle mountains .. two miles down the road the HELLS ANGELS were hilding their annual convention .. an incident occured in the local pub where medical assistance was needed in an emergency .. and the person who came to the call and assisted myself and another firstaider was the scruffiest tattoed biker from the angels unit ..... people in the pub looked down on him and made coment .. but thank god he was there .. for he saved that persons life .. his knowledge came from being the Head of the Intensive Care Unit of the ALFRED hospital in melbourne at the time .. The tatts were only visable when he was out "relaxing" on HIS time away from work ... biggest social discrimination I have ever sceen ..
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RHP User
14 years ago
Apologies for the double post, I am not use to having to wait for my posts to appear - thought the first one (sent last night, only just appeared) didn't make it thru.
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RHP User
14 years ago
If u want to get a job where image is important, but still want tatts, then get ones u can hide away. Same with piercings. Quite simple really. P.s rocker, damn straight, if u work your arse off for money then u shouldn't have to be embarrassed about it. Personally I don't work so don't earn anything. Not by choice. But, when god gives u lemons right....
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RHP User
14 years ago
if she did not meet selection criteria...but if she did and interviewed well then I would expect that as a conveyner of an interview panel it would be irresponsible of me to not outline corporate image guidelines...if she does not agree to what is expected of her regarding her appearance at work, then it is her issue to deal with...no discrimination there if you have a policy regarding corporate image...no different to policies in other job roles...Chefs have to have their hair tied back and preferably no piercings, Nurses are not to have painted and/or acrylic nails...you want the job...you need to conform...suck it up...or find another career...
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RHP User
14 years ago
While everyone has the right to choose what they do with their bodies & how to express themselves, I'm very glad that at the age of 16, when I got my first of 9 tatts, I was smart enough to have it placed somewhere that was for me & me only. All but 2 are still. My life is VERY different now to then!I have intimate peircings as well. Love them! I'm now 41, self employed in the public eye & a Mum of 2 teenagers. None of my clients/family/friends know I have them or judge me for them. They are for me & me only! When I hear my kids friends talking about getting "things" done, I tell them to be smart about it. One of my best mates is a Tattooist & his policy for anyone aged 18 -19 that comes into his shop is..."Stick the pic up on your wall & if you still love it in 12 mths, come back & see me". Body art, in any form, should be for the right reasons. Not to "show off" or impress anyone,but as a personal thing.All our lives change over the yrs, as your employees & you have learnt the hard way.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I have some tattoos and yes I do feel like sometimes I get discriminated against based on my appearance. I have a half sleeve tattoo and one on my chest. I didnt get it to look "cool" but those tattoos have meanings to me and thus its on my body. One recent encounter I've had with discrimination was when I was at Moorabbin Magistrates Court for some driving offences (driving with no license). Basically, I got legal aid because I didnt see the need to hire a lawyer. The way my lawyer spoke to me at first was like I'm already guilty and a criminal. I was dressed properly in a shirt and slacks but maybe its because im Asian, Im not sure. My argument was that Vicrds sent the license back to me so I thought I could drive again thats all there is to it, but he tried to scare me saying I'll get 3 months jail and that I shouldnt be driving with no license. I started getting anoyed, yes I know what the law states but there is some discretion as well. He then started asking about my job which I said Im self employed, He asked about my education, which I replied I graduated RMIT studying Aviation. As soon as he heard that I have some kind of education his tone changed, it really got to me though. That here he is, my lawyer the person that's suppose to be defending me even if I am guilty has already judged me and stereotyped me. Through life experiences I've learnt one thing, never judge a book by its cover.Im sorry if it doesnt make any sense or that my grammar is bad, I'm half asleep at the moment but this topic was something that intrested me so i replied. :)Jin.
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cbdlivin
14 years ago
I have quite extensive tattoos, but also none of my atttoos are visible in my work. The double standard is in some of my roles I would not hire someone with extensive visible tattoos, as in certain roles it is not acceptable due to the people they would be dealing with.
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