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Swingers Documentary

January 25 2010

Hello.  We're currently trying to put together a documentary about swinging in  Western Australia.  We are independent film makers, not affiliated with any network or production company.  This will be our first feature film, although we've been involved in the production of a number of short films.  For obvious reasons we've had some difficulty finding people who are willing to discuss their lifestyle on camera.  We do totally understand and respect peoples need for discretion, but are really hoping to find a few people willing to appear in the documentary.  We have been regularly visiting Club-XS and chatting to people there, and while everybody has been extremely open in talking to us, very few have shown an interest in appearing on film.Over the years a few documentaries have been made about the swinging lifestyle, and while most of these have succeeded in entertaining, they have pretty much represented swingers as an oddball community of perverts and indiscriminate sex addicts.  This has not been our experience of the swinging community at all.  We have been really surprised by the social atmosphere, and by the sheer variety of interests and boundaries we've encountered.  When we decided to make this film, it was primarily an opportunity to explore the world of swinging from behind the safety of a camera.  We chose the topic because I've always had an enormous curiosity about the idea of swinging.  I feel that as a society we are extremely repressed.  Most people are uncomfortable talking about sex, fantasies, masturbation etc, and yet here is a community much more open to both discussing, and even exploring their own sexuality.  While our intention was initially to explore from behind the camera, my girlfriend (who accompanies me to all swinging events) and I in the course of our "research" have been surprised to find ourselves participating on a few occasions.  The experience has been extremely educational.  Our relationship, while satisfying to begin with, has so far benefited from the experience.  We are much more open in discussing our own fantasies, turn-ons, insecurities etc, and the overall quality of our communication has improved in general.  I am hoping that this insight might benefit the direction of the documentary.Now back to our dilemma.  How do I find those few people who would be willing to appear on camera?  We have the facilities to disguise faces and voices using mosaic and audio effects.  For those with very distinct accents, we have the means to overdub any interviews with an actors voice.  We have no desire whatsoever to expose the private lives of anybody who is not comfortable doing so themselves.  The release papers which must be signed by all participants prior to filming allows anybody who appears in the documentary to view the completed film before it's public release.  If the documentary does not meet with the indivduals approval they have the right to request that their likeness be removed.I personally hope that the documentary will be of positive benefit to the swinging community.  It is our intention to make a film which genuinely represents what swinging is all about, but in order to accomplish this we need a large cross-section of this community who are willing to to talk on film.If anybody has any suggestions, concerns, questions, or might be interested in participating themselves, feel free to phone (number on profile), PM, or respond here on the forum.  I am keen to hear from you.

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  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Been done, we have done 3.. Bryan and Leesa Couples International. Brisbane. ABC even did a whole story on our club, and might i say we filled the whole club with our patrons wanting to be seen on camera. National Geographic, just aired, and it was called Taboo, they filmed most of the story at our club and with our patrons. So you see not everyone is too scared to be seen in the lifestyle. But it has been done already many times. Good luck any how and hope you do well. Leesa

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I found the post on this forum about the National Geographic documentary last night.  It sounds really interesting.  I would love to get hold of a copy.  Not having seen the documentary you refer to, I can't really be sure what it covers, or how ours might be different.  It is encouraging to know that a more balanced and objective documentary has been achieved, and that Australian swingers really are willing to go on the record.  Our film will be feature length 90-120 minutes, and will hopefully cover a whole range of venues from clubs to private parties.  Our main focus will be on the philosophy of non monogamous relationships, including but not limited to only swinging.Hopefully we can create something that's both original and honest.  When it comes to non-monogamous relationships there is a lot to talk about.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Hi Leesa Do you know the series and episode number. Taboo is quite a big series and would be interested in watching ones National Geographic did on swinging. Thanks

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    We hope you have a great deal of success in this endeavour shawnie. We believe that the scene is like all other facets of life, with many different perspectives to be explored and acknowledged.   Perhaps you might look at how many relationships have begun through the scene, and the strengths and weaknesses which may be present as a result.     Either way, we're sure that your effort will provide a fresh view of the scene for everyone, from the veterans to the newbies.   Good luck,                  A+J

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Thanks AplusJ.  It's great to see some support for the project.  Your ideas are really interesting, and not something I had previously considered.  We've talked to a few couples who met through the scene.  I wonder how those relationships differ from couples who are new to swinging.  A lot of the couples we've talked to initially required a very gradual introduction to swinging (i.e. soft swinging, lots of boundaries) in order to feel comfortable.  I imagine the experience would be quite different for those who are already very familiar with the scene.  So many questions!!  Thanks. We've encountered a lot of negativity and suspicion from a number of people we have contacted since we started trying to put this film together. Thankfully Club-XS have been really supportive in allowing us to hang around and talk to their patrons, as well as agreeing to let us film there some time in the near future.  The overall reaction has been positive (people seemed less suspicious of us after seeing me shagging in the spa), but few have expressed an interest in appearing on film.  We are really just hoping we have a good turn out when the camera starts rolling.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I would be happy to take part if you were in Brisbane- ( I am part of a couple). Our relationship is so much better because of swinging - it was great before but now we are so much more open with each other and we have a very fun hobby to enjoy in with each other.  We got into swinging in a very different way from most couples in that we started with an open relationship and that lead to swinging for most couples in the lifestyle it is the other way around.  I think one of the big concerns for most people in the lifestyle is that they are worried about non-swingers reactions - however as someone who has  "come out" to many people including family, friends and work mates - most people are not judgemental, or maybe I have just been luck.  Another major concern for people thinking about being in a documentary is how swinging could be portrayed by your documentary - I am sure you have the best indentions however people in the scene are so varied that what is the norm for one couple will not be for another one.   good luck

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    The Taboo series is called SEX and aired all this year so far. YOu can see a snippet on the nat geo on internet or check out times it plays again.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I did try posting before to let you know that there is an overview on the Taboo - Sex topic at National Geographic if you'd like to get an idea of what the documentary covered. While it seems to be based on the same topic of non-monogamous relationships, it did also have sections of the program focused on other cultures which while fascinating was not relevant to our culture. We would love to see a more comprehensive documentary covering a range of venues that include different clubs and parties. Couplesint's club by all accounts is an exception to the rules. It would be an added insight to see how other clubs and even private parties operate and differ in atmosphere.Cheers Mrs P' Quoting 'shawnie74' I found the post on this forum about the National Geographic documentary last night.  It sounds really interesting.  I would love to get hold of a copy.  Not having seen the documentary you refer to, I can't really be sure what it covers, or how ours might be different.  It is encouraging to know that a more balanced and objective documentary has been achieved, and that Australian swingers really are willing to go on the record.  Our film will be feature length 90-120 minutes, and will hopefully cover a whole range of venues from clubs to private parties.  Our main focus will be on the philosophy of non monogamous relationships, including but not limited to only swinging.Hopefully we can create something that's both original and honest.  When it comes to non-monogamous relationships there is a lot to talk about.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I think one of the things I've found most fascinating about exploring the scene is that there really don't seem to be any norms.  People  have such a variety of different boundaries and fantasies, and such individual motivations for swinging.Quoting 'blonde7915' I would be happy to take part if you were in Brisbane- ( I am part of a couple). Our relationship is so much better because of swinging - it was great before but now we are so much more open with each other and we have a very fun hobby to enjoy in with each other.  We got into swinging in a very different way from most couples in that we started with an open relationship and that lead to swinging for most couples in the lifestyle it is the other way around.  I think one of the big concerns for most people in the lifestyle is that they are worried about non-swingers reactions - however as someone who has  "come out" to many people including family, friends and work mates - most people are not judgemental, or maybe I have just been luck.  Another major concern for people thinking about being in a documentary is how swinging could be portrayed by your documentary - I am sure you have the best indentions however people in the scene are so varied that what is the norm for one couple will not be for another one.   good luck

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    We have a cd of the show if you wish us to send it to you, let us know. Mail me your address please We also did a doco about 6 years ago with a crew on the whole aspect of swinging . house parties etc, not sure when that aired or where, but could do the research and find out for you. Leesa

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Thank you very much couplesint. I would really appreciate that.  I will email you tonight with my address.