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Straight???... based on sexual orientation not lifestyle!
July 18 2009
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RHP User
16 years ago
Good point Peachy, just as well I ticked experimental? Would love to conduct some experimental trials with u2
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RHP User
16 years ago
The problem is this... not every culture uses your dictionary version of "straight". In ancient Rome and Greece for example, a man was straight even if he fucked guys... but a guy who was fucked... was effeminite... had given up his manhood so to speak. This same definition of "straight" still thrives today in many eastern cultures. Frankly, it makes some degree of sense ot me. Personally, I dont believe in the tickets and labels system for sexuality. It's too complex for people to be "black" or "white". There is a thing called the Kinsey Scale... which measures your "gayness" on a scale of 1 - 10. People generally aren't either gay or straight... because they could be level 4 .... prefering women, but still sexually stimulated by having sex with men. I'm pretty much at level 5.... which means I'm good either way... but there was a time where I was probably level 7 and a time when I was at level 2... that's the thing... what turns us on can change... and we are influenced by our emotional attachments to the people we love. A guy who identifies as straight who sucks cock is fine by me. He's straight because his sexual preference is for women... but hey, when fucking a couple, it is hawt to let loose of inhibitions and follwo the direction of the shaft in your shorts ..... if you can forget your gender biases that are based on your learned cultural expectations, then you might actually enjoy a bit of mmf(bi). Hell guys, open your mind and your arse might follow... lol. Anyway, a lot of guys put straight on their profile because of the bias of a lot of women. If they were to put bi for example.... some women are just not interested. At least that's how I reconcile the number of straight guys that hook up for sex with guys on here. They have "straight" on their profile because that's how they identify AND that's what women expect of them. Cheers Gazza
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RHP User
16 years ago
Just read a bunch of comments on MMF stuff along those lines. Things like 'I like to have a thick cock in my arse, but that doesn't make me gay, or even bi'. What? If getting nailed by another guy, which means you are sexually attracted to that guy, you would think, doesn't make you even bi-sexual, then what does? Seriously delusional people. Nothing is wrong with it. We have heaps and heaps of gay friends. And bi-friends. They're just happy to admit it. And everything is cool. I guess most are probably the same guys who post photos of their skinny little bodies, flexing in a mirror and then list themselves as 'muscular'. Ribs don't count as muscle. Delusional....
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RHP User
16 years ago
As we are both bi, what really annoys us are couples where the guy is really homophobic.. YET wants to see his women do girl-on-girl, but when the women ask the same of him he freaks and runs... Our golden rule is never aks your partner to do something you wont do yourself (GUYS this means headjobs...try it its harder that you think to do) Also if yoiu ask you women to be analed, why not try it yourself before subjecting her to it.... BUT then again maybe your not man enough to handle it ????
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RHP User
16 years ago
Gotta agree with Gazpacho on this one. I don't drink alcohol but on the rare occasion I do. I can't be categorised as alcoholic or as a social drinker, just a guy who enjoys the odd drink.
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RHP User
16 years ago
But I had too many gay guys viewing my profile. It seemed to give the wrong impression. Last weekend a Mistress made her sub boy suck my cock. She asked me if this made me gay now. I said rather frankly 'nup' I'd probably do it again, but I wouldn't go seeking it. I doubt I'd just let a guy suck my cock without a woman involved either. But meh, you never know what is going to happen when you're open and experimental. :)
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RHP User
16 years ago
As we move thru life we change. Our tastebuds experience and appreciate new exciting flavours. Some need time to taste nice. As a guy who was officially straight only a few years ago I know how one can change. Also putting up bisexual we get hit on by many straight guys both single and as part of couples. Most say straight not because of girls thinking they are weird etc [no doubt straight boring girls and not real bi girls who love seeing guys at it ] but because of the stigma of being male bisexual. Its so cool for a woman to be bi but not cool at all for a guy to be bi. And yes Gaz totally agree with you...this is according to local AU / western customs 2009. Back in the good old days in Rome things were different as indeed things will likely be different in the future. Maybe one day being bi will be accepted and be the norm. Straight may one day be viewed as limited and restrictive for straight boring people. Mars
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RHP User
16 years ago
Like Mars, my tastes have also definitely changed in the last few years! I list myself as bi. It means different things to do different people but for me, even though my preference is always female, it indicates that I will play with the male of the couple. Just because someone lists themselves as bi don't ever think that they must play that way, every bi guy I know is happy to play totally straight in an mfm 3some and you then have the advantage that the guy will not be 'shy' about DP etc and accidental touching! You also have the added bonus that if you ever do become curious or experimental in the heat of the moment you have the option to keep it totally straight or explore. Ticking the 'bi' box often does turn off some couples too though! There is a very big stigma amongst guys, that is attached to listing as bi, curious or even experimental and hence why many list as straight even they they are quite clearly at least curious. I am quite sure many guys who are curious don't even tell their ladies and especially don't tell their mates for fear of ridicule! I used to always list myself as straight (for most of my life I was totally straight!) but finally decided what the hell! I would never consider a relationship with a guy but don't mind some occasional sexual fun with one especially when a girl is also involved!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Straight because 99.9% of the time I notice women when I walk down the street and I like to be naked with a woman doing all the sort of fun things that naked people can do with each other. Just the two of us or with her partner (invloved or watching) and her being the centre of attention. Generally I don't really find guys that attractive. There's just that 0.1% of the time when I'm in the right mood with the right people and I want to experience something... ELSE. Something that fires the adrenaline, takes me somewhere I haven't been before; shows me something about myself. Maybe that involves another guy, maybe it includes a dog collar, maybe no-one but myself... theres so much to find out about. Sometimes it changes the world and sometimes it doesn't (even though it might have been a lot of fun), just once every two thousand years when the planets align. So seeing as there's no such thing as normal, only average, then my average preference is straight... sometimes, rarely, with a twist of lemon in selected company only.
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RHP User
16 years ago
If you want a definition of straight, gay, bi, look to the dictionary. I think the question is WHY would a bloke whose prepared to engage in bi activity not want to admit it. Some have suggested it because of scocieties tabboos. That me be true but isnt that why we love the net? Here we can be our own person without being limited by scocieties predudices. I suspect the reason is a much more practical one. Guys who are happy to be bi with a couple may not want a one on one with a bloke. Like the females on here who seem to have endless propositions from desperate guys, These 'somes' bi guys dont want to be flooded with messages from gay men (as opposed to couples). Unfortuately not everyone fits into the boxes that the site puts us into. e.g. You might be bi in sime situations but not others. Just be a little flexible when first making contact. Accept that people might have valid reasons for their listing not being quite what you expect. This does not exclude the fact that there are deceptive people out there but just as in any part of life you've got to take the good with the bad. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just be honest. If you dont quite fit into a catagory make sure your upfront when contacting people who you think it might be an issue for. DL
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RHP User
16 years ago
I googled 'ancient Rome sexuality' and found the topic on Wikipedia to be fascinating. More on that elsewhere. I also googled and found the Kinsey Scale on Wikipedia. The Kinsey scale attempts to describe a person's sexual history or episodes of their sexual activity at a given time. It uses a scale from 0, meaning exclusively heterosexual, to 6, meaning exclusively homosexual. In both the Male and Female volumes of the Kinsey Reports, an additional grade, listed as "X", was used for asexuality. The scale is as follows: Rating Description 0 Exclusively heterosexual 1 Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual 2 Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual 3 Equally heterosexual and homosexual; bisexual. 4 Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual 5 Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual 6 Exclusively homosexual Today, many sexologists see the Kinsey scale as simplistic. They suggest that sexual orientation and sexual identity are more complex and varied. RE: "Open your mind and your arse will follow"... I, MrsP have BTDT... time & again... it's boring! Speaking as a woman, any guy that feels a need to tick their profile as straight in the hope of attracting women that are, as you said, just not interested, whether that lack of interest is due to bias or not, is a liar or as I tried to put it tactfully in the original post, hedging their bets. Cheers & hugs MrsP :-)
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RHP User
16 years ago
Im sorry but it is very black and white Really simple- You ONLY like the opposite sex- you are hetrosexual You like BOTH sexes - you are BI- SEXUAL You only like same sex- You are Gay Why the hell do people need to turn it into something so fking difficult. "Oh i only sucked his cock ,so i'm still striaght" or "Oh i fucked him up the arse, but he didn't do it to me, so i'm straight" FFS It's very black and white, You are either hetro, Bi, or Gay same as you are either pregnant or your not you hve a VD or you Don't There is no scale
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RHP User
16 years ago
I have admired your honesty as I followed what you have shared of your story in the forums over time as well as taking time to admire your profile and pics lol. I agree that our tastes can and do change over time, but I don't agree with labeling straight as boring same as I don't believe in labeling bi-play as weird etc. To be a 'real bi girl' do you have to love seeing 2 guys at it? It really doesn't do anything for me... Your comment 'back in the good old days in Rome' had me googling 'ancient Rome sexuality' and checking out Wikipedia. Lots of informative reading, not a lot of it positive! I then used a link to access http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Scantinia where I read the following... Lex Scantinia (sometimes incorrectly referred to as Lex Scantia) was an ancient Roman law (named after aedile Scantinius Capitolinus who had lived around 225 BC) and introduced in 149 BC during the Roman Republic that regulated sexual behavior, including pederasty, adultery and passivity, potentially legislating the death penalty for same-sex behavior among free-born men. Allegations exist that even before Lex Scantinia such laws existed in Rome, but direct evidence of these laws has been lost. For instance, on supplicium fustuarium, public beating to death as the legal standard punishment for same-sex behavior among free-born men in Rome long before Lex scantinia, see Polybius, The Histories, volume VI, chapter 37. All Roman laws, including Lex Scantinia, regulating sexual behavior only expanded towards free-born citizens. Slaves were considered as res, as things, and could be freely used for any activity otherwise illegal. Other than opposite-sex activities, same-sex activities with slaves were however not encouraged as a form of sexual pleasure. In fact, same-sex activities were rather regarded as punishment for bad slaves, inherently identical to beatings. Not cool huh! I, same as many others, already accept that for some bi etc is normal and I'd like to think there will be enough diversity in the future that we will accept that some people have different tastes from ourselves... and that's OK! Hugs MrsP
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RHP User
16 years ago
You're welcome Mrs Peachy. Personally, I don't believe in the tickets and labels system for sexuality. It's too complex for people to be "black" or "white"....... what turns us on can change... and we are influenced by our emotional attachments to the people we love.... Hell "GUYS", open your mind and your arse might follow... lol. Having BTDT Mrs Peachy, you will have realised that you lacking in the prostate gland department.. but who here hasn't hedged their bets? Live and let love. Hugs Gazza
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RHP User
16 years ago
We are both straight and let everyone know by ticking the straight box. But we do get confused with the bi descriptions ...guess we are not going to change things but our interpertation is. Bi Curious....I might try given the circumstances but only curious. Bi Sexual.....No preference to either sex I enjoy both. We have recieved messages, when we remind possible dates we are both straight along the lines of: Bi curious couples saying the girls must play. Bi Sexual couples saying the same. Its as if there should be another box to tick...Bi Compulsary! Or make it clear in the wording that same sex play is a must. It would save a lot of messages and bedroom play experiances going down hill rapidly when continous same sex play has tried to be introduced. We appear to be minority with our sexual orintation and interperpertations. Seems simple enough to us not overly complicated. Cheers
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RHP User
16 years ago
taurus... thanks? hehehe ABedBuilt4Three... that sounds like one of the posts that inspired this thread lolol. A much better example to express my confusion cos I just don't understand how anyone that proclaims they "enjoy having a thick cock in their arse" can consider themselves 'straight' :-P tekematwo... from what I hear, guys have a whole lot more fun than guys during anal :-D graphite_user... not a tee totaller then? Blasphemer... experimental is as experimental does eh lol ;-) Thanks bimmf... I figured the whole stigma against boy-play was probably the main issue for the 'straight' guys that seek fellas on the sly. It seems likely to me that the're missing out tho considering the many women/couples in the forums professing their interest in watching and or playing with 2 fellas and/or bi-guys. It makes sense to me to be as upfront as possible with your profile if you want to find those who are looking for you... lol bob... thanks for taking the time to explain your point of view. DescreteLover, roughfukr & Gazza... I have the utmost respect that we each have the right to choose labels for ourselves... as long as we show understanding and respect of others perceptions of those labels when making contact. I thought DL put it well when he said, "Just be honest. If you dont quite fit into a catagory make sure your upfront when contacting people who you think it might be an issue for." I admire your honesty Gazza... rofl you got me there GUY, 'I'm prostrated' in shame but 'gland' you pointed out my 'miss-demeanour'... but I'm not falling for that, "who here hasn't..." stuff ;-) tastietwo... I like the way you think. I've set myself as experimental cos I don't mind girls, they awful purty to look at, and wouldn't mind playing with the right girl in the right situation but guys is what tickles my fancy lol. RE; Bi-Compusary: I agree that making it clear in the wording what it is you are looking for makes sense. I wonder if it would help at all having more selections under the Sexual Interests multiple choice which currently has MMF (bi) and FFM (bi) but no other bi options unless you count, 'Girls play, guys watch only'. Simple would be good for us too lol but that just ain't the way of homosapien Lastly... my ignorant encounter with a bi-sexual guy lasted for close to 2 years. He never told me he had any interest in guys... or other girls for that matter :-S I only found out about the girls by accident and deduced the guys not too long after. This was not too long before AIDS hit the headlines... Da MrsPeachy Hugs all :-*
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RHP User
16 years ago
We were having an interesting conversation with another couple who are telling us we are bi curious not straight. Their logic went along the lines: Straight....means a 1 on 1 swap. Bi Curious means all four playing, Which is more along our ideal for example all four giving oral at the same time so everyone is licking of sucking at the same time....just not with the same sex.... Girls in doggie position with the guys frequently swapping. No same sex play BUT More than a one one swap! Does that make us bi curious or straight? We are confused now! Cheers
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RHP User
16 years ago
Lol tastietwo- I think you're straight.... but I think we would all have a whole lot more fun without these labels... I mean if I am straight and I feel down to play with your clit and grab a hold of a pair of bouncing testicles connected to a cock that's pounding your pussy that don't make me gay, right? I'd have to stop and think.... See we'd all be better off without the labels and nothing feels better than having someone swinging off your spuds when your driving one home hard and fast. Live and let love honey! We should let the archiologists decide our sexuality later when they find us shagged out dehydrated and stuck together with smiles on our dials.... Like Pompei. Warm hugs gaz
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RHP User
16 years ago
tastietwo thx 4 sharing that last post! It was a fascinating addition to the subject. It really is a matter of perspective isn't it and if we learn nothing else from reading the forums, it makes sense to me that it should be that we all see things from our own understanding of 'standard definitions'. That's where communication comes in as your last post so aptly pointed out PS: We agree with Gaz and think that you're straight tooBi bi 4 nowBig Hugs
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