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Sexuality...oh no not another post!

June 10 2010

We come across many different people in our travels, on RHP at CI or at parties etc. Once we were told that Andy should have Straight as his preference on our profile. The male that recommended this listed himself as straight but was infact Experimental. Another male told us once that homo's should be shot and another one rejected us because Andy has listed himself as Experimental. We were told he did not want some guy checking out his bits.All these men were in couples. We never come across single men that question our sexuality. Occasionally Andy will be asked by straight men in couples to define what he means by Experimental. He will do so, they will say cool we are still keen lets meet. These men just want to know that we or Andy will respect that they are not interest in any bi play. We will always respect anyone's boundaries. I guess what I am wondering is this...What makes some straight men so homophobic? Why is it hot if two girls want to get off with each other and so not if two men do? Are some straight men so uncomfortable and insecure in their own sexuality that the thought of someone that is scares or intimidates them? What Andy listing himself as experimental means to me: If I want DP, which I do love from time to time, Andy is comfortable to indulge me in it, or any other female counterpart of a couple who does too. If bits unexpectedly brush past each other in a tangle of bodies no one is going to get punched. If both the men playing are curious, or experimental, horny, in the mood and in to each other then a little bit of play would be ok.Men out there, and women too please see if you can shed a little light for me. I find it quite difficult to tolerate hypocrisy of this kind. It saddens me that people can not be honest or at least feel they can not be honest about their sexuality. Being Bi curious, comfortable, or just plain bi does not make you less of a man. being straight is perfectly ok too. Do not ever think for a moment that just because a man has listed a preference on his profile that he wants you too, how up yourself would you have to be to assume that! xx Salina

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  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I've decided that I'm straight. I mean Andy's straight so I am too. If anyone wants to argue symantics while we're all getting off well... they're just not worth fucking with. Hugs Gaz

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Guys who are into lesbians but discriminate against gay men are simply tossers - it's double standards, simple as that. Fair enough you don't have to like it, but don't be crude about it.Women are my main preference but I don't mind experimenting a couple of things with guys, sex is about variety so why not have as much fun as you can. I don't know if that makes me experimental, bicurious, bi or what.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Sorry Sal, could've written this post myself, with regard to how hubby and I are.Sexuality is a fluid kinda thing. It usually comes down to someone's level of open-mindedness I suppose.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Why are guys into lesbians? Is it the challenge?? :PWho really cares what you are, I have said it before and I will say it again, it just makes you horny. As Stalky has said before, his dick knows what it wants...who is he to argue? :) Straight Stalky hey? Sounds incredibly dull to me and oh so stifling! Stalky, will you make it to Bris vegas for our porno? xxSalina

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    i'm puzzled too. the very same guys that say they think people like me should have been drowned at birth (my EX brother-in-law spat that little gem my way ... his theory was if they drown defective cows, why not paula?) hit on me looking for someone to give THEM anal. now, i'm no rocket scientist, but I struggle with this level of hypocrisy AND the fact that practically every homophobic male alive gets turned on by watching lesbian and trans porn. I am not trans by the way, I used to be when I lived as a guy. If someone I like, and respect, and am incredibly turned on by wants something like that, I’ll dig out my strap-on collection. The thing is, however, if I’m in a relationship and in LOVE with someone, absolutely ANYTHING goes. I have no boundaries where the sexual pleasure of my partner is concerned. It bothers me a great deal when they say … ‘hey, I wanna shag you and you’re partner, but he / she says they are experimental? I’m not gay, so he better not wave that thing of his anywhere near me!’ you’re hitting on a couple! A sexual unit! If they’re hetero, you’re essentially hitting on a guy. now, again, I may be way too intelligent and able to multitask for like of some guys on here, but isn’t this why we write profiles? now I think I may be onto something there … it doesn’t take a multi-tasking female genius like me to READ A PROFILE before I HIT ON THEM. It’s like mine says, if you’re after a one-off quick fuck, where any hole will do, save you’re messages for someone else. anyway … I really want to rant about this topic endlessly, but don’t see the point. some male misogynistic dinosaurs will always be homophobic, no matter how much they like being nailed by a girl. or attempting to seduce a GAY girl. that’s right fellas, lesbian means GAY. careful, one day you’ll bag that lezzo and catch the gay. It’s a disease and needs to be exterminated, hey. God, now I AM sounding jaded. Far from it. I like girls. I like to be in relationships with girls. I like guys. I like to have sex with guys. Dilemma? Maybe. I might just meet a couple one day and fall in love with them. Ahhh, the holy grail. Until then, I will respect the couples I see and their boundaries, and offer them someone who LOVES everything sexual in EVERY combination. Apologies for the rant, and don’t catch the GAY! Paula xx

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Quoting 'Salina79' Why are guys into lesbians? Is it the challenge?? :P because Sal, we know that just like the difference between a straight girl and a bi girl is 4 drinks and a hot girl; 2 hot lesbians are just bi girls who haven't had a great cock... and we happen to possess that magical cock ;-) (and since there is 2 of them, well.. they BOTH must need taht magic cock) lol(I had a friend who was bi and she had a 'friend' who was lesbian, it was awkward - the lesbian girl was like a homophobic bloke. boring)

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    As the male side of the couple I classify myself as experimental. I guess this means that I am not looking for some one on one time with another guy, it means that as you said Salina, if our bits happen to touch, brush or otherwise come into contact ...... then who cares. If the other male took a fancy to touching me a little more in the midst of things then cool, hell I may even get the urge to touch or play. Doesn't mean that I want a full on with the guy and certainly do not go out of my way looking for it. I do know some guys that they couldn't get into that situation because they are so against anything to do with being close or bits touching another man.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    lolz Sal.. the porno sounds like a hoot. If I go to teh airport and follow my erection will I end up in Bris vegas? hehe... who knows! Also, going by sydneylad's post.... I think we may have found our leading role! Yes.... A star is born. "Sydneylad does Wanda".. a working title... hehe. Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    hello, Andy here - nice my sexuality is a forum topic. Sal is correct in saying that we find that bi/curious guys are happy to indulge sal dp fantasy. Dirty mare that she is !! But 85% of straight guys also seem not to have a problem with it so I guess it comes down to individuality and perhaps as mentioned being comfortable with your own sexuality not to be threatened by anyone elses. So why bi cure when clearly I'm a red bloodied manly man. I'm the worlds biggest fan of pussy, big pussy, small pussy, hairy pussy, green pussy (star trek reference) Damn it i'll just do the whole quote from the movie 'dusk til dawn' and get it out of my system. Here we go I also like ... white pussy, black pussy, Spanish pussy, yellow pussy, hot pussy, cold pussy, wet pussy,smelly pussy, hairy pussy, bloody pussy, snappin' pussy, silk pussy, velvet pussy, Naugahyde pussy, horse pussy, dog pussy, chicken pussy! ... hold on, not those last three and the blood one 'ewww' but great movie, which if you're interested does a total U turn mid way through.So with that in mind should I go back to straight box? I am comfortable enough to put 'curious' but again we have had some people assume that because I have that ticked I'm going to 'check out the mans junk' or am going to insist on a man on man bumming session. Which in a way culls the pack down a little for us, does that make sense? My ultimate aim for all of this is to share moments with sal, and legally sleep with as many woman as I possibly can, preferably in one big orgy of girls with me in the middle. Probably do them one at a time first over a long weekend then have them all jump me at the end. I do so enjoy my one on ones, this group stuff can be bloody distracting plus there's never enough room on the bed! :P Peace and listen to 'this years love' by dave gray. It will make your heart melt and all the worries in the world go away.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    My name is ----- and I am a straight man.. <<< confession... I am married to a beautifull sexy woman whom I dont mind shareing with another sexy couple or selected single man... However' for me' I am not interested in testing the waters with another male' not because Im homophobic' I couldnt give a bugga if some guys like to mix things around' thats their call and they can do as they wish... but it just simply doesnt do it for me... The male makeup is just all wrong to me' in fact unattractive' where the female body and persona is totally different.. The female form is beautifull..... the soft smooth skin' the shapey body' the soft hair' the projected lips and bossoms' the sensual feel of her warm wetness and of course the act of coming together.. theres nothing nicer than a girl who just stops you in your tracks with a nice smile or a knowing look... and you feel like you want her sweep her off her feet there and then. NOW' and however' I can fully understand how girls can be attracted to girls for the very same reason as I just explained. Girls are nicer than guys... they have the right bits in the right places and to me' it seems a more natural thing for girls to want to indulge with another girl... Mrs JJ.. has never been with another girl ' but I know she is just as attracted to them as I .. In her words' if someone is attractive to look at theres no barriers on who the observer is. She still perfers guys' but I think with the right female and the right mood... who knows.... A few years back a male didnt have to defend being straight... my how times have changed... lol

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Lolz Mr Juicy!! It's ok to be straight... I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise... it's more of a "live and let love" kind of vibe that I hope to express and frankly everything you said is agreeable with me... except for the bit about having to defend your sexual inclinations. None of us should have to.... as long as it's lawful. Hugs Stalky

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    There is nothing at all wrong with straight, bi, gay, lesbian, experimental, horny, frigid.....Live and let love is exactly the point of the post.Are you suggesting that bi and gay men should be shot? Are you suggesting that if a man told you he found you attractive you would organise a lynch mob of your roughest toughest blokey mates to sort him out?Did you notice I said some straight men and not all? Did you notice that I also said that most of the time straight men are fine with whatever one word on a profile means and at the end of the day respect and tolerance is all that is needed?I very much regret this forum post. Thank you to everyone for their feedback, however I never meant to put Andy's sexuality under the spotlight!Straight is not odd. Intolerance and double standards are. As the female half of this couple i have experimental on my profile. Sometimes I like to play with women, when I am in the mood and attracted to them. When all is said and done though, I am more into men. I find men very attractive. The shape of their bodies, the touch of mans hand, they way a man can look at you and in that instant you want them to just sweep you off you feet. I also like a woman's. Heck, if I did not how would I feel about my own? So yes I can appreciate both men and women for the qualities that make them who they are. How are two women together more natural than two men? Blahhhhhh, all this was not even the point of my original post, I just do not get the double standard and I wonder why it is there. xx Salina

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Hey Salina, I totally get your point. Even though, 2 guys together would not turn me on and is not my thing, as is the same with J as he is completely straight, I still find it a contradiction that a lot of straight guys find two women together hot and two guys together wrong. It is homosexual either way so whats the difference? Though I agree with JustJucie, I do find the female form more sensual that the male, even though I am into men, after all I am happily married to one :P S xo

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    We're always amused when we received a message from a interested single guy, when we reply with the standard "thx, but we're looking for experimental/Bi guys'. We almost always get the 'Oh, im experimental, i just don't like it on my profile' answer.We always find this odd, if you can't be open about yourself on a faceless profile then how can we trust you enough to share our bed.....just our 2 centstmp1707

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I go to a few parties and I much prefer the ones where the guys are bi. Much much easier on me, cos they all entertain each other. I love it!!!!!!!!!!!

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Quoting 'desserts'I go to a few parties and I much prefer the ones where the guys are bi. Much much easier on me, cos they all entertain each other. I love it!!!!!!!!!!! Agree 100% instead of being conditioned to Female Bi everywhere....some ladies just are not into the girl / girl stuff.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Hey guys' Maybe I didnt express my self correctly... No' I did not say anything to suggest that gay ' bi' men should be shot or hung as you so delicately put it.. I would urge you to reread what I wrote and you will see that I stated that I couldnt give a bugga what a mans persuation might be.. If it works for the man and he is happy good on him.. Both guys and girls can do whatever they wish with my blessing.. I did say Im not homophobic and thats the truth.. Im very happy to respect any guy / girl who finds happiness in the same sex.. All I was trying to say was that it doesnt work for me for the reasons I expressed. Im sure there is many others that feel the same way as I also without any prejudice.. STALKY... I think you got it right.... I glad you understood what I was saying... Like I said' I dont give a bugga what anyone does as long as it makes them happy.. As you said ' live and let love' thats fair enough.. That comment about defending one's sexuality could have been left out .. It shouldnt reflect on the rest of what I was trying to say...

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I have reread your post, as has Andy. You are very right, each to their own, live and let love and all of that so I am sorry I came across so damming and harsh :) Respect and thanks for sharing your thoughts xx Salina

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Hey... Salina / Andy. No worries... Its easy to misread or misunderstand at times.. Even I have to reread what I write at times ' so I cant always expect others to always get it right.... lol... Anyway' Im always happy to share my thoughts with good people. You pick up alot from the way people express themselves in their posts and I never felt anything bad bout you guys.... Alls good... Hugs Jon xxx

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    its all very easy, only be juged by someone smart as yourself or better.every one else < fuck them>

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    These homophobics you refer to are probably not exposed to any MM video or topic nature and file the whole thing under "Gay". There is mostly some horny aspect to any genre, even if it's not your kink. The gay title carries MM love, gay madigras, Queens and Tranny's and all that jazz, so a red blooded male who buys Ralph magazine and watches Buttman DvD's has no clue to the simple play-fun in the moment(usually at the request of the girl in the equation who just wants to see some MM erotica for herself). Does not mean you're now off to Gay clubs and now have to tell everyone you've switched teams forever..... Or does it? Course not. Are you getting the picture? It's fear driven crapolla and probably quite 'normal' reaction to the subject. Nothing worries me coz I know who i am and fun had at the time was fun at the time. No need to beat yourself up about anything sexual really.... but feel free to if you want.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Tonyerotic, Andy here - sal mentioned someone had written something very wise to her post, I thought I would take a look. She is right, you are a wise wise man. thanks for summing all this up. I think I've decided what I am, I am what I am, like Popeye! I've not actaully met anyone whilst on the site that has made me switch just for a bit. I'll keep curious on my profile though, just so everyone knows that it's my choice and I'm comfortable enough in my sexuality to be okay with that. Plus, we really do have to make it just as acceptable for dudes to go to swingers parties and not be judge if they want to dabble. Even if you want to or not, letting people be sexual without there being feelings of guilt... isn't that what swinging is all about ??and plus we don't just let the girls have all the fun all of the time. :P

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I came out fairly early in my life, but i've never liked the terms gay, straight, bi sexual or whatever. I'm me, I love sleeping with women and I also love sleeping with men, have never thought any less of myself because of it and I sure as hell don't think any less of anyone because of their sexual preferances. its what a person does not who a person does that makes them good or bad people. We've been fairly lucky on rhp, we've only run across one or two homophobic types, the rest have been, for the most part, lovely people, many of whom we've become great friends with. I think the key is to be totally up front with the people you meet and be as respectful of their sexuality as you'd expect them to be of yours. anyhoos, thats as grown up as i care to be for the day, catch ya's mr bewildered

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Quoting 'bewilderness' I came out fairly early in my life, but i've never liked the terms gay, straight, bi sexual or whatever. I'm me, I love sleeping with women and I also love sleeping with men, have never thought any less of myself because of it and I sure as hell don't think any less of anyone because of their sexual preferances. its what a person does not who a person does that makes them good or bad people. We've been fairly lucky on rhp, we've only run across one or two homophobic types, the rest have been, for the most part, lovely people, many of whom we've become great friends with. I think the key is to be totally up front with the people you meet and be as respectful of their sexuality as you'd expect them to be of yours. anyhoos, thats as grown up as i care to be for the day, catch ya's mr bewildered

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Quoting 'bewilderness' I came out fairly early in my life, but i've never liked the terms gay, straight, bi sexual or whatever. I'm me, I love sleeping with women and I also love sleeping with men, have never thought any less of myself because of it and I sure as hell don't think any less of anyone because of their sexual preferances. its what a person does not who a person does that makes them good or bad people. We've been fairly lucky on rhp, we've only run across one or two homophobic types, the rest have been, for the most part, lovely people, many of whom we've become great friends with. I think the key is to be totally up front with the people you meet and be as respectful of their sexuality as you'd expect them to be of yours. anyhoos, thats as grown up as i care to be for the day, catch ya's mr bewildered I think I'm in lust. Where do the couples like you guys hide out? "it's what a person does and not who a person does that makes them good or bad people" ... now this I could not have said better myself. Unfortunately, it took me a very long time to come out as bi. But then, I'm genetically bi so mentally it gave me quite a sound justification. I guess the key difference for me is I like sex with men, I fall in love with women. But please, bring on the various combinations of those!"Be as respectful of their sexuality as you'd expect them to be of yours". This is my hobby horse, right there. Thank you Mr Bewildered. I don't understand the whole binary gender debate, i guess because i've never experienced being 100% one gender or the other. When we're conceived, and our little cells multiply into a zygote, we ALL have the same reproductive components that go on to form male or female bits when our XX or XY chromosomes begin to influence their development. I wonder, then is it nature that makes us bi / straight / gay / just cool with everything? Or is it nurture that influences these intangible feelings?Me, I know what it's like to have a penis and be inside someone I love. I know what it's like to ovulate and desperately want my partner to take me with wanton abandon, do whatever they like with me, and impregnate me. I don't know what it's like to feel loved, and secure, and accepted enough to truly let go and orgasm. My holy grail, sorry, there's my favourite term again, is someone or some people for whom gender and sexuality do not matter. I've yet to meet ( maybe, i'll let you know ;) ) someone who loves me for the person I am.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I guess its my fairly unique upbringing has allowed me to grow up sans a lot of preconcieved predjuces- to me its common sense, i just cant understand how some people can't see. Then again, thats just my own personal opinion and anyone that knows me will can tell you my opinion is very rarely has any basis in reality and gorgeous Ms Loveme, we'd love to catch up for a coffee some time The Bewildered

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Quoting 'bewilderness' I guess its my fairly unique upbringing has allowed me to grow up sans a lot of preconcieved predjuces- to me its common sense, i just cant understand how some people can't see. Then again, thats just my own personal opinion and anyone that knows me will can tell you my opinion is very rarely has any basis in reality and gorgeous Ms Loveme, we'd love to catch up for a coffee some time The Bewildered Dear Messrs Bewildered, You are such sweethearts.Why, Ms LoveMe does have a penchant for being quite verbose, as you may have gathered. Right now, um .... **swoon**I would very much enjoy sharing thoughts over coffee :DMs LoveMe.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Hello forum,Long time reader, first time poster. And I may be a little late on this one, but it has prompted some thoughts and I for some reason feel the need to share them. I would like to add a disclaimer to begin with. I am a straight male, who really couldn't care less about what sexual category you happen to fall into. I really don't. There are those of you who know me, and will helpfully back me should I completely stuff the writing of this and get crucified. The following thoughts/questions are not intended to insult, attack or degrade anyone in anyway what so ever....right.From reading this thread I noticed people seem to have an issue with homo phobics. A volatile label in itself. It seems to be bandied around, i think, just a little to much. And it always seems to hold such a negative connotation. If a man isn't comfortable around homosexuals, he is a homophobic. All of a sudden, a perfectly lovely and quite fun individual, who simply knows what he isn't comfortable with, has become this image of hatred and intolerance. A homophobe. Now I appreciate that there a some individuals out there who are quite aggressive in there phobia of same sex...sex. And these men/women should be pitied, after they have been beat mercilessly. :) But why does it seem that when a man/woman, who isn't comfortable around homosexuals, expresses this quite calmly, he/she is suddenly branded and attacked?He/she is simply saying what he or she is not comfortable with. I have been 'rejected' simply because I am not a bi or experimental male. How is that any different? I have also been turned down for being a smoker, slightly over weight, ugly and a mass murderer. Yet I can't help but feel that if I was to accuse them of being prejudiced, I would simply be told that these are things they simply don't want in a play partner. Which I feel is perfectly acceptable.Homophobe is a label, and a life choice. As is homosexual, catholic or vegetarian.And it wasn't too long ago that the term 'gay' or 'homosexual' was also a term with a lot of hatred and negativity attached to it as well. So maybe, we can try and remember that homophobe is not a dirty word it is merely another 'label' attached to a life choice. And they should be free to accept or decline individuals who do not meet there desired criteria, without fear of persecution. As should we all.But a thick headed neandethal with the brain capacity of Lindsy Lohan, and the co-ordination of the english national soccer team, who expresses their life choice (homophobe, gay, mass murderer) through violence (emotional/physical). Maybe shouldn't be labeled as homophobe...maybe just call them what they are... "D!X"And on a final note. (I really hope this doesn't blow up in my face) :(Mr Oh_Wowsers

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    you have a point there mate, homophobiaphobia isn't nice. homophobia is, as you pointed out, being uncomfortable with the idea of same sex sex. just because a person is homophobic does not make them a bad person, like i said previously, its what a person does that makes them good or bad people. You've always been very cool around us, you'd definately be one of the last people i'd call homophobic:)