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Nudity/Naturism

September 22 2011

Hi people. i notice a lot of ladies here list nudity/naturism in their interests. i can only assume this is private nudity/naturism, because when you go to a nude beach the imbalance of males to females is pretty distinctive. i wonder why australians are so prudish in this regard?(i am australian) an interesting comparison, sydney, where i grew up, is a city of approx. 4 million. i have been to the various nude beaches there, the most popular and non gay one, cobblers, i would estimate, has 70-80 people on a perfect summers day, most 35-40 yrs plus, majority, males. vancouver, canada, also approx. 4 million people. i have visited one of the nude beaches there, wreck beach. i would estimate 300-350 people, 75% of them under 30 years of age, people walking around selling beers and cocktails, burger tent.. great.50/50 of the sexes easily. interesting. a long time ago a very cute 22 yr old danish girl i worked with told me she didnt understand how it could be illegal to be naked, as we were born that way. another friend told me, "you see my face, you see my hand, you see my pussy, what is the difference? i share this with half of the human population, it doesnt mean you know anything personal about me" many will say nude beaches are full of perves and people wanking in the sand dunes/bushes. true, since moving to wa, swanbourne has turned me off. i believe that by pushing nude beaches into the typically hard to reach, isolated areas where they put them, it encourages this behaviour. i cant imagine someone jerking off on cottesloe or bondi if you could be naked there.instead, we push nudity into something shameful. allow nudity everywhere, allow specific places (eg, the current nude beaches) for people who want to fuck in public. might help people with body image. i have read that some countries that have liberal attitudes to such things have a higher age of "cherry popping"(sorry, bad phrase) than others, perhaps due to more confidence of who they are physically?? i dont pretend to be a psychologist. yes, i realise i am living in a dreamworld re my proposals. i think the worst thing that ever happened to australia was that the english colonised us, rather than the french or spanish or danish or swedish or.... please be mild in your abuse. thanks

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  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    you do live in a dream world dont you? we are avid beach nudists...frequent the beaches around byron as soon as we can and as often as we can manage, and the single thing that ruins it for us, is that wanker males want to make it about sex. we go to be nude. to be outdoors in the sun and not wear clothing....not to play on the sand, or to frolic and fuck in the breakers, or even to masturbate in the open. but men do. they come and sit next to us and wank, while leering at and ogling my wife. they come, to sneak into the dunes and fuck their gay but probably married mates. or to sneak around to a vantage point above us and take happy snaps with their box fucking brownies so they can wank later and share the pics with their perverted mates on line. its these wankers who make it dangerous for families to bring their children to these beaches....nudist families dont bring their children for early sex education classes, they bring them to be nude............nudity and naturism is NOT about sex. its NOT about fucking on the beach. its NOT about wanking on Bondi (which, by the way, we have seen) and its NOT about satisfying the perverted desires of serial masturbaters. we have called the police to attend to people who are bothering us. I make it a habit to photograph those around us who are being nuisances, making sure I capture their faces clearly. wherever men are naked, for whatever reason, they add sex to the equation. like you have. I hope the local governemnts dont relax their policies and laws, i hope we dont allow nudity everywhere. i hope by keeping it limited to small manageable places, the authorities can police them and weed out the wankers that ruin it for those who just want to enjoy being naked. i say publicly humiliate those who behave inappropriately at places people go to be nude, and post their pictures and names somewhere for the world (and their families) to see.........

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    but' I agree, because we were colonised by the poms it will take years to break down the prudity. Before anyone chastises me as racist I too have some pom blood in me somewhere, so its just my observation..We will never be as free as the Swedes ,Brazilians or the Spanish as long as we are governed by people too scared to even reckonize they have genitals down there.. or are jealous that other people may have a more attractive body.When we ( MrsJJ and I )go to a nude beach, we dont know if we will be free to enjoy it or not. If we have to remain clothed because of the wankers who almost sit on top of you or hide in the bushes its not relaxing . While ever we have these guys around, you will never have a strong mixed crowd.. its just too off putting and you grab your stuff and go home.If we could get rid of the prudes and wankers thats all we need... How good would it be to just go to the beach and enjoy the sun, water and some good company without having to think about these cretins.. ? Mr JJ

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    So where are the nudist beaches in Melbourne???

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    I think that on the whole Australians are very conservative when it comes to sex and nudity. I myself haven't been to a nudist beach but it is on my to do list this summer. ;-)xxMeeka

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100'I think that on the whole Australians are very conservative when it comes to sex and nudity. I myself haven't been to a nudist beach but it is on my to do list this summer. ;-)xxMeekayou should.......take a trusted friend , and relax with a red wine.............you'll love it.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'justjuice'but' I agree, because we were colonised by the poms it will take years to break down the prudity. Before anyone chastises me as racist I too have some pom blood in me somewhere, so its just my observation..We will never be as free as the Swedes ,Brazilians or the Spanish as long as we are governed by people too scared to even reckonize they have genitals down there.. or are jealous that other people may have a more attractive body.When we ( MrsJJ and I )go to a nude beach, we dont know if we will be free to enjoy it or not. If we have to remain clothed because of the wankers who almost sit on top of you or hide in the bushes its not relaxing . While ever we have these guys around, you will never have a strong mixed crowd.. its just too off putting and you grab your stuff and go home.If we could get rid of the prudes and wankers thats all we need... How good would it be to just go to the beach and enjoy the sun, water and some good company without having to think about these cretins.. ? Mr JJyes........we've been forced to leave when the wankers have outnumbered us......its a bit of a pisser, when we have drive so far and back each time... (brisbane to byron is around 160km each way)

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Nude/clothing-optional beach behaviour:It is up to everyone at the beach to ensure that it is safe. That means taking the initiative to tell somebody who is doing something you find offensive to either stop or move away. If the person in question refuses and the situation seems to warrant it, sure call the cops. But just recognize that the more often the cops are called, the more likely it is that the nude beach will be shut down since "obviously it's just full of sick perverts who need the cops called on them all the time" (taking the point of view of somebody who doesn't want a nude beach to exist at all and looks for justification to shut it down).It also means positioning yourself in a way that you are not exposing yourself (pardon the pun) to behaviour that is likely to occur there. Don't like folks snapping your pic from the cliff? Go to somewhere they can't see you or go to a different beach. Put up a big umbrella that blocks their view of you.If you see somebody wanking in the middle of the beach, feel free to ask them to stop, cover up or maybe just point and giggle making loud comments about small dicks. Wankers scaring off the single girls? One of my gay friends has suggested a few times that he gather up a bunch of his friends to circle around these guys and treat them to a similar wank-fest. I think it would work!Should we HAVE to do this? No. But the reality is that if we need to help foster the kind of environment we want at the beach. Wreck Beach in Vancouver that the OP mentioned, has been there a LONG time. It is a mature beach where decades of reinforcement have made it a great place to be. Our other beaches may just need time to grow up.AT THE SAME TIME...sex in public will happen. Like it or not, for SOME people, naturism and sexuality DO overlap. Folks having sex in the bushes are being discreet. Leave them to it.Side note: I find it offensive that somebody would bring their camera to take photos of people doing things they don't like...such as...taking photos. Maybe a nudist club would be a better option than visiting a public beach. The idea that you are taking photos of people whose activities you find offensive, with the intention of posting them online to humiliate them boggles my mind. Do you know how many people think that naturism is perverted? Would you like your photo (along with your family) posted all over the Net? Perhaps printed up and postered around your neighbourhood with a headline of "NUDE PERVS NAKED IN PUBLIC"? Please...be sensible and keep what happens on the beach at the beach. (Awaiting the flames.)

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Are we more pom than the poms when it comes to nudity and possibly sex? What ever happened to topless bathing ?

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    every English woman i ever knew was a monster for sex, and for nudity. my ex was from manchester.....runs aound naked on the beaches of Bribie at the hint of sunshine....my wifes a geordie......she, like her parents and uncles n aunties, is an avid beach goer and doesnt ever need be asked to take her clothes off............theyre off halfway to the sand......poms not liking sex or nudity is myth.........Ive dated a cockney lass who was the same, and an irish woman who was a ball of energy almost impossible to keep up with....or keep clothed.......

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'curvalicious2' Nude/clothing-optional beach behaviour: It is up to everyone at the beach to ensure that it is safe. That means taking the initiative to tell somebody who is doing something you find offensive to either stop or move away. If the person in question refuses and the situation seems to warrant it, sure call the cops. But just recognize that the more often the cops are called, the more likely it is that the nude beach will be shut down since "obviously it's just full of sick perverts who need the cops called on them all the time" (taking the point of view of somebody who doesn't want a nude beach to exist at all and looks for justification to shut it down). It also means positioning yourself in a way that you are not exposing yourself (pardon the pun) to behaviour that is likely to occur there. Don't like folks snapping your pic from the cliff? Go to somewhere they can't see you or go to a different beach. Put up a big umbrella that blocks their view of you. If you see somebody wanking in the middle of the beach, feel free to ask them to stop, cover up or maybe just point and giggle making loud comments about small dicks. Wankers scaring off the single girls? One of my gay friends has suggested a few times that he gather up a bunch of his friends to circle around these guys and treat them to a similar wank-fest. I think it would work! Should we HAVE to do this? No. But the reality is that if we need to help foster the kind of environment we want at the beach. Wreck Beach in Vancouver that the OP mentioned, has been there a LONG time. It is a mature beach where decades of reinforcement have made it a great place to be. Our other beaches may just need time to grow up. AT THE SAME TIME...sex in public will happen. Like it or not, for SOME people, naturism and sexuality DO overlap. Folks having sex in the bushes are being discreet. Leave them to it. Side note: I find it offensive that somebody would bring their camera to take photos of people doing things they don't like...such as...taking photos. Maybe a nudist club would be a better option than visiting a public beach. The idea that you are taking photos of people whose activities you find offensive, with the intention of posting them online to humiliate them boggles my mind. Do you know how many people think that naturism is perverted? Would you like your photo (along with your family) posted all over the Net? Perhaps printed up and postered around your neighbourhood with a headline of "NUDE PERVS NAKED IN PUBLIC"? Please...be sensible and keep what happens on the beach at the beach. (Awaiting the flames.) so you say its ok if they take our pics without our knowledge, and post them on the 'net and share them with their wanker mates for their own perverted 'sport'? but its not ok for us to take their pic, with their knowledge (i make it obvious...even wave to them to make sure they know) with the intent to scare them off and avert their sad behaviour? posting them some where would be a great idea, but its only an idea...so far i've done nothing, just used it as a very successful 'scare' tactic........they scamper...100% of the time....we take 'our'camera to take pictures of 'ourselves' ...never of anybody else...where they end up and who sees them is our choice...these wankers come with telephoto lenses and set out to deliberatley take photos they can use...without our consent .......so who's the perv? not us, not ever... telling them is something I do..........but all they do is move on to someone who doesnt say anything.... calling the police is one option...but its only an option.....and no......we dont have to 'accept' sex in the open, if we dont choose to......its these cretins behavior that will close the beaches...not the frequency of police/ranger callouts, or the behaviour of the vast majority of beach users. please dont attempt to advise us where to go and what to expect...we've been doing this as adults long enough to be able to decide for ourselves what and where is appropriate for ourselves......and thats not a nudist club..........we choose the beach because thats what we enjoy........that perves and wankers invade our space is something we hate,but its one of those things that we have little control over. so we do what we can.......if thats scaring them off...by whatever tactic, then so be it.if it menas confronting them and it possibly ending badly..then also so be it..we hide from nobody our love of the nude beach, but these people make it less enjoyable than it should be........there are no beaches here in queensland for us to enjoy....so we travel hours each way to byron bay......leaving because we are outnumbered by wankers is disappointing, to say the least........ that families are forced to leave as well, because theyve seen far too much, is also sad........

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    mike and shel, i think you misinderstood where i was coming from. yes i too am turned off by the behaviour you describe, as i wrote that i have given up going to swanbourne in perth due to the wanker factor.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Quoting 'wimimo'mike and shel, i think you misinderstood where i was coming from. yes i too am turned off by the behaviour you describe, as i wrote that i have given up going to swanbourne in perth due to the wanker factor. no....i read that, and the rest of your post.....

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Hi, mikeandshel, I was trying to introduce the concept that how you feel about what "the pervs and wankers" do is how some folks feel about what you're getting up to simply by being nude at the beach. Perhaps this is why there aren't any nude beaches in Queensland?You wrote of your disappointment of having to leave and, I am going to presume, spending a lot of your beach time and energy getting worked up thinking about them. I wanted to raise the idea that there are ways to handle wanker situations without bringing out the big guns of a camera and cops. Escalating the stakes isn't always the most effective or satisfying route in the long run. I'm also an adult who has been going to the nude beaches long enough to also see how well different approaches seem to work. I'm not speaking from a place of ignorance and speculation. And, no, I didn't say that it was OK for folks to take photos of others without their permission.I wish you all the best in your nude beach ventures...even some fun and relaxing times..curvalicious2P.S. Curious how your profile's "Fetish Interest" section lists (and ONLY lists) "exhibitionism & voyeurism". Hah. Interesting.

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    in a sexual context......not outdoors and in the public like some rutting animals. there are times and places for everything......what we do indoors doesnt mirror our outdoors behaviour...the beach we frequent also has families who atttend......i'd suggest its them who call the police etc..as our phones are in the car...the camera and taking their pictures has turned out to be the most effective way for us.....it means we dont have to get up close and personal and put anyone in a situation that may not end well...for them. they run, even if the cameras not turned on.its these freaks who make our time at the beach into something its not intended to be...for us anyway. i'd suggest its in their best interest to take their sad behaviour elsewhere, as we dont go to beaches for sex.....its to relax and get away from people, not to include them..........if that was something we were wanting, we are more than capable enough to invite the sort of people we like to join us............and that wouldnt include the guys in the dunes with their telephoto lenses...ever had a picture turn up somewhere, that someone else took? we have.....

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    The trouble is, there are probably some of these wankers sitting here reading these comments ' who dont believe its them we are talking about.. These types appear to think its quite OK to sneak around and annoy couples and females out for a swim and a tan....IT IS NOT OK' IT IS SICK AND ANNOYING... Your kicks are anothers misery...

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    we had some pictures that were taken of us, from the dunes at Tyagerah, turn up on a photo submit site. a friend alerted us of this, so we contacted the admin of the site involved, and they were removed. although they didnt depict us in a sexual context, they quite clearly showed our faces. we'd suggest that taking pictures of ourselves, or asking others to do it for us, or watching and being watched in a bedroom, is light years from someone creeping through the dunes in order to take photos with the intent of not only wanking to, but to sharing these pics with others as well ...without either our knowledge or even our consent...... we've also had pictures we shared on purpose, find there way back to us from someone passing themselves off as us.......hence all of our photos are now watermarked.........we've been to the beach, and other places, and moved...2 , 3 and 4 times in the one day, searching for somewhere a bit better protected.....but how do you conceal yourself from a telephoto lens that can take pics of the pimples on your ass from 800 metres away? I've confronted guys and asked politely for them to move on...and been greeted with derision, and even threats of physical violence... we changed beaches... we stopped going on weekends, hoping to escape the wankers and fucking sickos that congregate there..... we bought a sunshelter to hide behind....but they become more and more brazen......we've ignored them....only to see them inch ever closer to us......they sit facing us and wank......openly....even when there are nudist familes on the beach with their children........we even gave up in disgust and stayed away from the beach for a couple of years........... but miss the beach, the salt air and the waves n sand........so we perservere and try to enjoy........in spite of those who would ruin it for us...........and the days at the beach are still some of the best times we have had as a couple.............try and now tell me, that taking the photos of, or at least pretending to, is wrong........it works....... its low risk...and nobody ends up hurting.....and hey, its a whole lot more less intrusive than what we have to as a couple, contend with.....as to spending our time worrying about others? hardly...if you knew either of us you'd understand just how little time we spend thinking about anyone other than each other.......we spend time working out ways to be alone, or how to fit new and exciting things into our already busy and hectic lifestyles........beach time included.....

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    watched bondi rescue today......one of the stories was about a guy caught masturbating on the beach........they had police come and escort him away...........happens everywhere i guess.......

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Personally, i really like going nudie style. Have been to what's left of sydney nude beaches too, many times. In fact will be back again this summer!It is a bit tiresome having so many men and so few women, not to mentioned the creeps lurking in nearby bushes. I like to take my boyfriends to nude beaches too - once they get over the panic, they tend to really like it too.It's definitely not about sex on the beach - only deserted beaches for that - but later at home it is all about sex ;)

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    Well said Monicab, could not agree with you more. I have only been once to a nude beach and it ended up being on my own. A friend of mine got cold feet at the last minute and decided not to come along. Yeah there are more men and the occasional creep but you ignore them. I told her she would have had a very relaxing day!

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    its not about sex, its about nudity,in spite of what people think, prudes included........ but as a prelude to sex, it certainly can be an enjoyable tool.........

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    had a look at Cap d'Adge ....which is supposedly the nudist capital of europe...an apparent population of 40,000 nudists from all over europe gather there each summer.......thousands on the beach every day. theres so many bodies on the ground that you cant walk 10 feet without tripping over someone....a fenced off flat beach with no breakers...maybe 2kms in total.......doesnt sound too attractive......... here tho, we can enjoy kilometers of pristine white sandy beaches with bluewater, surf and dunes.....and wide open spaces...we go and on a busy day theres 30 metres or more between people.......thats in excess of a hundred feet................some days you can walk a 5 kilometer there and back walk, and not come any closer than 20 meters from another......... i reckon we have it pretty good...we certainly enjoy ourselves. we go, and others we have spoken to, agree, to get away from the humdrum, the crowds and the crush.....if these places were full of people and serviced by kiosks and booths, theyd lose their appeal, and we'd move on.......to somewhere that we could relax and have no one bother us.....

  • RHP

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    14 years ago

    i am in not bad shape go to nude beach on my own being followed by old nude creeps is not good ive had to tell a couple of them to fuck off fucken creepy men to say the least i dont care less weather they are gay or not surely they can pick up else where lol fuck me im only going for a swim starkers because it feels good not to be humped by a pack of old desparates lol