RHP

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Not a kull debate

October 03 2014

So yet another shark attack of the W.A coast For those like me who are in the water often enough do you see more SHARKS than before. Personally I feel there are plenty more than 10 to 15 years ago.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    It means the protection of this wonderful animal is working and their population is recovering.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Funlover71' It means the protection of this wonderful animal is working and their population is recovering. Tell that to those that have been on the dinner plate "Fun" Cause they scare the shit outta me!

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    11 years ago

    Did you manage to watch 60mins the other week on Great White sharks? It was very interesting... The person they interviewed believes society has got it all so wrong. The reporter (Alison Langdon) free-dived with the great whites. There is probably many many why there are sharks off the coast of WA. Foxy

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    11 years ago

    and look at their eyes...I see sadness. I don't know why...just do. Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    That's probably because they want u for desert Foxy...but your not on the menu Knots

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I surf, dive and fish quite a bit off the south coast. I have seen many sharks during all of these pursuits and by far the most frequent sighting of mid to large size sharks is Bronze Whalers (In my area anyway). It's a little frustrating that when there is another shark attack, the media are straight up assuming it's a White Shark. This grabs headlines and panders to the general publics JAWS phobia. The Bronze Whaler is the dickhead teenage boy of the shark world. One on there own is managable! But I kid you not... I have seen two and three work together (1-2m) harrassing the shit out of seals and it's a scary sight. I await for the story about the poor guys from Esperence to unfold and if it is as I suspect perhaps some reality and honesty will start to enter the debate. Atleast regarding the problem specie(s)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I feel for the young surfer who has been injured in this latest attack and wish him the best recovery possible In Perth today, they caught and killed two great whites However the injured surfer has told authorities that in fact it was two bronze whaler sharks who attacked him , so it would appear the authorities got it wrong and killed the wrong sharks. Revenge killing. That is so sad but what is sadder is our mindset, it attacked so I will kill in return. Like Funlover I hope there are more sharks. They have their place in our world, the eco chain. And in my opinion is if we swim or do recreational sports in their territory, we are opening up ourselves to a risk. Its that simple For the amount of people in the ocean each day around Australia the shark attacks are minimal but yes I appreciate devastating but for all the money being spent on drum lines, culling, removal of lines etc, could the WA government which has spent millions on this issue maybe redirect the funds to say sheltering the homeless and not fund the killing of the "wrong" and innocent sharks

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Ive been surfing for give or take 20 or so years and in my entire time in the ocean doing what is closest to my heart i have never to this date 100% confirmed seen a shark. Not that it would stop me if i did encounter the man in the grey suit. A handful of dolphin spooks (the beautiful but sneaky bastards) and what was that?! feelings over the years and have been sent in by the shark chopper once (while surfing alone) because of a sighting but still haven't seen one in the wild. I call it as it is when it comes to sharks...we are in their home...we know the risks involved. Simple as that. Stay salty!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Forgot to add Seals to the (beautiful but sneaky bastard list)....more than a few near brown water experiences haha

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    11 years ago

    with those who wear black wet suits in the water that some sharks mistake them for seals (dinner). Would others agree or disagree? Foxy @ Knots -I like being on my lovers menu or him on my menu...either way I have a very BAAAAAAAAAD sweet tooth!

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    11 years ago

    We are out of our element and in my homest opinion become just another part of the foodchain. Anything not in it's natural comfort zone is. The main men in my life are "of the sea" Master/Professional trawler/fishermen, they'll tell you the same thing. Sharks are curious not cold blooded killers, most attacks stem from biting to find out if something is edible. They are nature's perfect predatory design....I've been hit by a "speedy" (little shark) in the water, no biggy but enough to put the shit up me!! I've had a school of bait fish swim past me and wonder what's chasing them....so i went to shallower water not that that would've saved me if I was on the menu. Still I also tire of the White's being painted the villain all the time, there are so many more regular perpetrators like Bull sharks and Bronzies. There's not one surviving shark bite victim I've ever seen who says "kill". Like others have said, it's a stupid knee jerk reaction driven by a sensationalist media who just as quickly turn "pro-shark" as the public opinion shifts back to conservation over vengeance. Just my 2 bobs worth. Carry on!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Now your teasing me Foxy... Wetsuits and seals has alway been one theory ever since I can remember...But let's get fair dinkem I think they will have a crack @ anything that takes there fancy when they have the munchies.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    in the Savanna where all the wild animals live....I would say yes....we can see them hear them and maybe smell them so our natural instinct could protect us. Its not the same with the ocean, we cant smell, hear or see them until its to late, we only know they are there. And its their territory not ours. So have we really many more killings and the question would be why.....is the food chain broken for big animals like the shark.....don't we have enough food in the ocean anymore....or is it another phenomena to get rid of the parasite.....human................. on earth?

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' with those who wear black wet suits in the water that some sharks mistake them for seals (dinner). Would others agree or disagree? Foxy @ Knots -I like being on my lovers menu or him on my menu...either way I have a very BAAAAAAAAAD sweet tooth! I have often wondered the exact same thing - whether the black wet suits actually appear too similar for a shark to discern the difference between, say, seals, and people. I don't really know what the eyesight is like with sharks (any experts here ?) - if perhaps because they have very good 'smell' that their eyesight is not so great, and could mistake items in the water. I have heard it said that when a shark initially attacks the first bite is usually a 'taste' to establish what it is they are attracted to (usually too late for the human at that time), and if it is not to their taste, they will not go further. Further, I have also wondered if wet-suits were perhaps multi-coloured in some form if that would deter an attack in the first place ? You have, for example, sea snakes that have particular coloured patterns on them that advertise to other sea life that they are indeed venomous and therefore to be left alone - would that work on a wet-suit ? Do sharks see in colour, or would differing shades on a wet suit be enough to 'show' sharks that they should not pursue us for food ? Tall

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    11 years ago

    HUBBA BUBBA! If I were a shark I'd want to bite that smokin arss of yours!! 🐋🐋🐋 Foxy

  • bozhe_moy

    bozhe_moy

    11 years ago

    The best shark Ive ever seen has been with $3's worth of chips

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    If we enter their domain we are doing that knowingly and must assume the risk...no risk no fun...but we could draw the line when sharks attack people in the carpark.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Hehe Foxy I'd gladly let you take a bite..or two...or three... ;) Chad x

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    11 years ago

    Either way this is wrong. I feel for the victims but man needs to balance his existence with the rest of nature.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    on the planet is man xxQ

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    11 years ago

    the reason we might be seeing more sharks, is because we have been fishing the few feeding grounds the sharks have been using since before we even existed. People are just greedy and go for the easy money. The sharks are just hungry and passably a bit pissed off. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    ... suggest exploratory behaviour, which stands to reason given that they explore with their mouths. Aside from being morally and ethically wrong, I believe culling exemplifies human recklessness, greed, cowardice & cruelty period ... but culling on the grounds of public safety is both unacceptable & inexcusable especially in light of statistical incidence (having said that I feel very strongly for victims, friends & family). Wholeheartedly agree with others in that we go into their territory knowing full well the risks involved and quite frankly ... I refuse to believe that we can't coexist ... unwilling to perhaps ... but by no means unable to.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    There was an interesting article in the Australian magazine this weekend...Blood in the Water...what did WA's war on sharks achieve... definitely worth a read xxQ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I was diving of Rottnest Island on Saturday and I seen the Biggest shark I have ever seen in my life. We were back on the boat and only about 100mtrs from the shore when it swam along side but about 15 feet down from the surface.the water was clear and we all got such a treat to view this majestic creature, thank god we were no longer in the water. I was just reading about the shark attack in Esperance and bite marks confirm it was a Great White and not the bronze whalers as the poor guy thought.Either way I love the shark but I never want to get too close to them and in my time spent in the water I would say YES there are way more now than I ever remember