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Narcissism, prevelant in todays society?

July 28 2013

After reading a recent forum by cheekyarses I began to think of the prevalence of narcissism in our society. While some traits are needed now in todays world due to confidence, pride and vanity being seen as strengths. Narcissism has weaknesses, being egotism and selfishness which can ultimately be just as deadly when revealed.   Having said that vanity also has it's own hurdles.   Had this conversation over dinner last night and it was an interesting subject, brought out plenty of views and involved just about everyone at the table.   So RHP people, thoughts..........................

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Our Ego is our worst Enemy . We accept it as being a part of us, but the Ego is an Imposter . If we can conquer our Ego we will become the Person that we truly are ... GG♒- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    discussion

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Are on the increase in today's society, as more and more children suffer messy breakups with their parents according to a book called "That bitch! How to protect yourself from women with malicious intent" by Roy Sheppard and Mary T Cleary. However, it also says that it's healthy to display some of these qualities, some of the time, but at the moment the jury is still out on this one for me. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    "The rules for living in the real world have changed, because the world we live in has changed"Quote: Dr PhilI just finished reading "Life Code - The new Rules for winning in the Real World" by DrPhil - AMAZING!Talks exactly what you are talking about OP and how to deal with BAITERs and teaches how to surround yourself with the right people.B = BackstabbersA = AbusersI = ImpostersT = TakersE = ExploitersR = RecklessThese sorts of people are not for me.FOXY

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    That Bastard, and rightly so

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    far too perfect to be a narcissist

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I don't mind a bit of narcissism, as long as it's based on something other than delusion. There are of course many people who take it too far, but if I was to get all angsty about narcissists, I'd be a hypocrite too.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Self love if the most important trait anyone one can learn. To be too humble is to do one's self a disservice. The majority of regular posters are on the healthy side of narcissistic delusion. What would we have if we could not love our self. Who here likes someone that is withdrawn, insulare, insecure, lacking in confidence? Personally i like confident people that know that being human is the pinnacle of existence. Why have a game of pool in a pub with someone that does not think they are better than you. Boring.OP qoute. "Narcissism has weaknesses, being egotism and selfishness which can ultimately be just as deadly when revealed." What are you saying. Deadly? How so?Narcissism does not mean one is selfish. Where does charity begin and pointlessness start in a world of 7 billion plus people. We are but a fraction of humanity that has this wondrous life as Australians. Thus some pointless selflessness to stock ones ego.MisterGreen. Ego is not a dirty world. SirLarkalot. Don't you mean diagnoses of disorders is on the increase. We are the same humans that slept in grass huts 60+ thousand years ago. Are you saying that mental disorders are cultural and that a "dyed in the wool" narcissist like me can blame everyone else for putting my needs first. Gosh hope so will save me a lot of grief.Supperfoxxy. OMG a Ph.D with a BA. Now there is one with a narcissist disorder. Everyone one wave at my sexy wife... Fuck supper Phil is a dick and has no grasp of reality. Look up how much damage he has caused with his generalised ego driven dribble.Freya77. You are indeedly so perfect. Will you marry a stud like me. Together we can let the meek mine our toilets so that they can prosper from the gold we spew from our arses... ;)neptune_drift. Oh I am a lad maybe and you are a rock star.. Glad to see that there is some sanity here.If I missed anyone. Sorry caught my reflection on the screen and got distracted.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    You're indeedly right, I did leave the word diagnoses out of the equation. But to answer that question, no I'm not saying that they affect only one group, or culture, or even one sex. However, what I am saying, and my reference is the mentioned book, is that it's found more prominently in those that have suffered through a messy break up, which I am assuming was self explanatory, but I apologise if it wasn't. It[the book] also suggests that it's passed onto our kids through exposure. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Mirror Mirror on the wall: please tell me that was a bit mean for Blindman to individually point out people's posts like that. :(In saying that, you are right "Self love if the most important trait anyone one can learn" Knowledge is Power..right?If I can be educated to be a better person to live in todays changing world...you bet I am going to do it! If I can be the best person I can be, love and honor myself, surround myself with healthy minded well-adjusted people - you bet, I'm going make that choice.I choose to read books etc etc and I may not believe everything but I do take away with me anything that will give me healthy relationships with people - that's knowledge right?Why? Because I want meaningful healthy relationships with healthy minded people. I certainly do not want to be in unhealthy relationship that's all about " Look at ME ME ME" just to boost their egos nor do I want to be about someone who thinks the world owes them.If I can be educated to be able to spot and pick up unhealthy narcissists behavior patterns I think good on me for doing so.FOXY*skips off to finds a hand-mirror*

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    very refreshing and healthyWhen I look in the mirror I see a still young woman with a strong self love for what she has archived in life. Is this narcisim I think a tiny bit.Without it I would sit in the corner and not being on RHP.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    It would be silly to comment with terminological inexactitudes, so I will play it safe by saying, I like to find the best in people and I will stand by any who it is believed are being honest.Mado

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    Did you see where the hands were of the ones who found other things more interesting, I certainly would have taken advantage for arousing my wife, while just about everyone else was so busy.I am guessing that the forum you are referring to with cheekyarses caring nature asked concerned questions, you answered by talking about money, praising another who also did just that?Yes, no Mr Cristal, I understand we would probably not sit at that table.Mado

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I agree.100%....I too look for the best in people and those who are honest with good balanced ethical traits.. FOXY

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'madotara69'Did you see where the hands were of the ones who found other things more interesting, I certainly would have taken advantage for arousing my wife, while just about everyone else was so busy.I am guessing that the forum you are referring to with cheekyarses caring nature asked concerned questions, you answered by talking about money, praising another who also did just that?Yes, no Mr Cristal, I understand we would probably not sit at that table.Mado   No I didn't see the hands of the others! I couldn't take advantage of my wife, don't have one anymore and was there on my own, and I only play with myself at home without a mirror! If you read my post you will see that the conversation got me to thinking about cheeky post, it wasn't the subject of the conversation, only a dickhead would do something like that.   I however answered cheekyarses forum with what I thought a parallel saying, which came from an old man when I was 19 and still wet behind the ears believing people who big noted themselves. He was basically telling me that those in life who can do, those who cant talk. I admired him as he took me under his wing, he was a bushy and had a saying for just about anything and he particularly had a distaste for those who thought they were above others and used words to try to dominate or humiliate them. He wasn't rich (god he'd be laughing in his grave at that one!) but was wise and caring. That's why I thought of him and where used to come from when explaining things to me.   It wasn't about the money Mado, If you knew me you wouldn't jump to that conclusion at all. If you also knew the people at the table and how the conversation started you would enjoy their company as well.   The rest of my weekend included Sunday morning at my ex's farm using the Massey ride on mower to do the house block (the grass was a bit damp which was a bitch), feeding out the cattle, giving 2 of the cats medication and feeding the horse.   Hope that clears that up!

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    A dickhead would not have spoken with such a manner, I have enjoyed reading your reply, I was wrong about your character, It is a strong one. I believe we have now seen the best in you Mr Cristal, it is an honor.Mado

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'SUPERFOXXY' Mirror Mirror on the wall: please tell me that was a bit mean for Blindman to individually point out people's posts like that. :(In saying that, you are right "Self love if the most important trait anyone one can learn" Knowledge is Power..right?If I can be educated to be able to spot and pick up unhealthy narcissists behavior patterns I think good on me for doing so. Knowledge has power but in itself is not power. It is how you use that knowledge and it comes in another form, wisdom. You can not read up on wisdom, others can not teach you wisdom. The only way to get it is from the school of hard knocks and the expanding history of self.I was pointing out individual posts to, in my round about way, show that "BAITER" is not bad. I assume people on these forums enjoy debate, enjoy acknowledgment of their posts, need attention. I baited and dulled the hooks with care so as to not harm or injure. I did it as a narcissist and I got my reward, attention.Continue your education and read up. Its just that Dr Phil makes my skin crawl, I have seen him destroy individuals for nothing more than ratings and money. I doubt the poor guy is able to emphasize and his formalized, popularized, morality has little care for the diversity of humanity. Its not the mirror he looks into, its the millions of faces that he needs looking at him. A narcissist above all needs attention.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'sirlurkalot' You're indeedly right, I did leave the word diagnoses out of the equation. But to answer that question, no I'm not saying that they affect only one group, or culture, or even one sex. However, what I am saying, and my reference is the mentioned book, is that it's found more prominently in those that have suffered through a messy break up, which I am assuming was self explanatory, but I apologise if it wasn't. It[the book] also suggests that it's passed onto our kids through exposure. - Posted from rhpmobile No apology needed at all. Nature V nurture. Evolution and life has needs, we humans need narcissists as much as we need self loathing introverts, it is a variability build into our genes and society. Messy break up's in my view are more to do with greed then over inflated egos. In the end we must condone traits that outwardly seem immoral unless it is directly, and with malice, harmful to society.To quote Who Framed Roger Rabbit "I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I take thee as my awful weeded hussybandxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxooooooooooooooo

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Blind man, I don't see anything wrong with answering individual people. Yes I agree Doctor Phil is the biggest narcissist around! And yes I agree that most of the regular posters may have a healthy dose of narcissism.... But I object to the delusion comment! Lol. Now everyone look at me!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    From where I’m sitting, I AM the centre of the Universe.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    just don't sit on that daffodil

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    BUT BUT BUT me does like Dr.Phil. I guess I don't see him in that way as being just ratings and money.He's not my bees knees to my everything - I do have more important things, that are priorities.AND yes I think Meeka is right, most of the regular posters may have a healthy dose of narcissism.... FOXY (who likes to think she has a little bit of wisdom from life experiences)

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    12 years ago

    I thought for the word as being nasty, I am not nasty. Do you think I am narcissistic? anyone. Is it something you do not like in a person?I don't feel changing the way I think will happen, though if I were offending people for selfish thoughts, I would try to change that. I don't think I am selfish as what I have is ours and we don't have much more than that, we do not own it, but we have made it happen or let it. I will protect this and any, who I feel has the same within.Mado

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Freya77'just don't sit on that daffodil That's half the fun!

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'madotara69'Do you think I am narcissistic? anyone. No fucking way.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Fell in the fucking pond while looking at myself.Lucky for me, unlike one poor fella I can swimLady T

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Thanks, all so interesting, yes I agree that being selfish can be admirable as can egotism, its all a matter of interpretation and how the traits affect you and others.   I guess it's only when others suffer at your expense to make yourself feel better then it can become an issue. TR just make sure there aren't any crocs in that waterhole okay!   It makes sense that we all have a little narcissism in us, just some more than others

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I know a narcissist. I'm just waiting for him to drown in a puddle.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I remember seeing one of those memes that said: Before you can love somebody, you have to learn to love yourself. I must admit I like that sentiment.   If you don't have a healthy (and the emphasis is on the word healthy) dose of narcissism, you will lose in today's society. You will lose in love, in life and in the work environment. It all comes down to self confidence and if you don't have it you are behind the proverbial 8 ball from the get go.   Mooka