Morality (yet again!!)

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  That's shameful! If the "victim" wanted it so bad they shouldn't have lost it!! Like when u find a wallet, my theory is; Cash is finders keepers but hand the rest in, that is unless there's a heap of cash (like anymore than a hundred bucks)!! DnK xxxxx

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  Nope. Not in my household. I am trying to raise kids to do the right thing here. It is do unto others as you would like them to do unto you. I am forever telling them, if that was your money, toy, bike whatever and you lost it, would you want it back? It is easy to put money in your pocket, pull out something, even your hands, and lose the lot. While I dont believe that the man who pocketed the cash was actually guilty of theft as such, he should be made to repay the money if it is proven that the person who is claiming it is the rightful owner. Fortunately. video serveilance would be excellent there.

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  wannabyummymummy

  14 years ago

  if i lost that kind of money i would hope for it back.Honesty is the best policy and in a situation like that the right thing to do would be hand it in.In the street or somewhere like that for a small amount of cash ($20-50) then i must admit i wouldn't go to the trouble to hand it in unless it was in a wallet i would think 'woohoo lucky day' and to be fair if i lost that kind of money in a public place like that i am not expecting to see it again.I don't think this guy is guilty of theft though i think theft is more about the intent, if a person deliberately takes something from a person that is not theirs then their intent is to steel but if they find it and choose not to hand it in then while the intention may still be dishonest i don't think it that of theft.It will be interesting to see what sort of sentence this person gets and if they appeal (and result of appeal).

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  The law seems to be that if you find something, you hand it in to police. He had no obligation so far as I'm aware to hand it in to the casino operator.If the thing you hand in remains unclaimed, then, as I understand the law, that thing is yours. Get on down to the police station and pick it up.Seems to me.. that if anyone hands in $200 down at the local police station, it's more than likely going to buy a round of coffee and donuts.... that's the silly thing about all this.HugsStalky

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  Lots of questions pop to mind here. So some guy was wandering around in the Casino, spots $200 and picks it up off the floor and pockets it. First question, who detained him and on what grounds? If it was the Casino cops, how did they know it wasn't his money in the first place, what his intent was after he picked it up, putting in a your pocket would be reasonably logical and unless they want to try to pigeon hole that one as shoplifting...there could be a problem. As there was no obvious victim nor any form of theft involved, even the real police might be out on a limb. How in the hell did he go from picking the money up to being fined for it in the first place and who was this victim that he was concealing the money from...some bonehead that knew it was his/her money and had just casually decided to leave it on the floor for safekeeping? Right...that's where I would leave my money at the Casino, on the floor right next to my charge cards with the pin number written on the back. | Oh well...at least he wasn't at the Crown as they would have beat him into unconsciousness then harassed the next few folks about a little accident they might just have too if they didn't behave. | Would I have turned it in? Probably, but only to the police...who may have blown it at the doughnut shop but at least would not have laughed in my face when I handed over to clown cops at the Casino. | They got nuthin'

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  Quoting 'CheekyCouple82' That's shameful! If the "victim" wanted it so bad they shouldn't have lost it!! Like when u find a wallet, my theory is; Cash is finders keepers but hand the rest in, that is unless there's a heap of cash (like anymore than a hundred bucks)!! DnK xxxxx Sorry this kind of thinking is walking the thin line and it's easy to slip and slide into the shit!How about you find the owner and give them back EVERYTHING and feel like you're a top person by not expecting anything in return? Then how awesome would it be if the owner was so thrilled that they took you for a beer or even if they were not drowning in bills they offered you a reward?Gee they might really need their cash but you never know, over the beer their hot wife might walk in and give you the eye. One thing might lead to another and they may repay you in ways that will be much more memorable than a sneaky hunge!

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  Definitely unfair but the law for stealing is a taking and it needs to be deliberate and the accused's guy gave evidence that he knew it wasn't his hence deliberate but really so much more interesting stuff and important in the Courts rather than such a minor stealing where he got a fine of more than $200 and has to pay court costs but has no criminal record other than his name being public coz of the media! Was worth a run at trial though - I would've run it!! H :)

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  wow i cant believe how people just pocket money if they find it What ever happen to doing the right thing and handing it to someone giving them your number,If noone collects it it due corse then its yours if it doesnt then its not meant to be yours. i know how i feel when iv lost my purse over the years sometimes it comes back with everything except the money other times its come back with money as well and i have offered the person a reward for bringing it back To all those people who find a wallet with id and money if u dont hand it all back in have u heard of karma and if u lose your wallet shut up and dont bitch when it comes back to u empty

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  Until i saw the video of this - i thought how rediculous!!, but having seen the casino floor cctv tape I'm sorry but yep it can be classed as stealing. the person who lost the money was standing beside the man who "stole" it, he then slid the money away from the man with his foot and waited until the guy had walked away from the bar before bending down to pick it up. He had plenty of time to let the guy know that he had dropped the money. It was stealing straight up -

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  It just shows how wildly different viewpoints and opinions can be before the cold hard evidence comes into play....

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  Thanks...without seeing the evidence it all sounded pretty shonky. I completely agree and a tap on the should simply telling the other person would have been the right thing to do. He deserved what he got...and I hope they compensated the victim too. I would have been shitting myself thinking I had lost $200. | Quoting 'brenbob_68' Until i saw the video of this - i thought how rediculous!!, but having seen the casino floor cctv tape I'm sorry but yep it can be classed as stealing. the person who lost the money was standing beside the man who "stole" it, he then slid the money away from the man with his foot and waited until the guy had walked away from the bar before bending down to pick it up. He had plenty of time to let the guy know that he had dropped the money.

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  14 years ago

  Quoting 'brenbob_68' Until i saw the video of this - i thought how rediculous!!, but having seen the casino floor cctv tape I'm sorry but yep it can be classed as stealing. the person who lost the money was standing beside the man who "stole" it, he then slid the money away from the man with his foot and waited until the guy had walked away from the bar before bending down to pick it up. He had plenty of time to let the guy know that he had dropped the money. It was stealing straight up - Sounds like stealing to me.A similar thing happened to me at an ATM...I went to get some cash out, and noticed there were some notes sitting in the dispenser - turned out to be $200. The bank branch had just closed, so I couldn't hand the money back to them, and there was no sign of anyone who may have left it behind. I was just about to take off to the police station, when I saw a man running along the street, go up to the ATM and yell "Oh SHIT!" Figured at this point that it was his money, so I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him how much he'd left behind. When he told me, I handed it over and walked away.

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  Thanks for the reply sexy Puppy, I must admit though, if I had lost my wallet with the usual $20-$90 bucks in it, I would be more than happy to get it back without the cash!! That would be a million times better than no wallet at all!! Afterall it would probably cost me more than however much cash was in it just in phonecalls and time to have all my ID's and cards reissued!! But the hotwife reward does sound applicable!! Hahahaha ;-) DnK xxxxxx

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  It seems you didn't take offense at my comment which is good as none was meant but could have easily been taken.Hey I agree if my wallet goes missing then I'd be happy to just get it back with no cash but I would and have given lost wallets back with money included. For me I'd hate to think anyone was out there thinking I was dodgy, even if only a little! In this situation I always think that I never know how cash strapped this person may be and it's their hard earned. I'd love a reward but if it doesn't happen then obvious their need was greater.Mind you I did give back a fair sum of lost cash once and actually met the person - they were quite unpleasant and did make me think I should have pocketed it but ultimately I'm happy with my choices

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