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Just for the Tradies.
June 27 2011
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RHP User
15 years ago
You are some awesome lady, I really hope the guys give you some great advice. M
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RHP User
15 years ago
I agree electrical work is fairly straight forward, IF your a trained sparky experienced in those type of installations! It always amuses me when people think like that, I mean how hard can it be, there just wires....right.The number of times I have had to fix up Diy'ers fuck ups is astounding, and some are expensive fuck ups costing thousands and thousands to make comply with AS3000.Then there are the jobs that I have just refused to have anything to do with, because you know that they are going to muck around with the wiring themselves once your finished and because of the legal ramifications down the track if it all goes pear shaped.These days I wouldn't touch domestic work with a forty foot pole.Oh yeah don't forget to have your properly designed and installed cabling and hydraulics roughed in before you put the insulation in!If you must do it yourself at least go and buy a copy of AS3000 and AS3008, and buy a megger, and rcd tester and use them! I shouldn't say that, it is illegal to carry out electrical work if you are unlicenced, and big fines, or worse you may kill someone, and who wants to live with that on their conscience.Cheers Nev......lecture over Bahahaha
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RHP User
15 years ago
i live in the west and our building techniques are a little different ,,,,,,,,,but id use the fibreglass batts ,,,,,,,squeeze them in between your purlins and wack your sheeting straight up over them ,,,,,no need to stretch out and pin in place like the silver paper on the role stuff ,,,,,,,,,hope it helps ,,,,,,,,,am a ceramic tiling tradie so contact me when you get to that stage ,,,,,,,,,,and dont forget to use the waterproof villaboard in your wet areas ,,,,,,,,,hugs xxxxxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
its a SHED JOB YEH ???????? and you wish it to be cozy and warm naturally from me it would be WOOL and nothing else,its warm and natural and helping an industry that this land was built on sounds like a fun project ,,,,, i will be expecting some before and after pics Fiona
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RHP User
15 years ago
Nev....I know that I have to have the sparky in before insulation but thanks for that anyway. It stands to reason that the cables need to be run out first. I would never stuff up and kill someone and the reason why I would not attempt it myself is because I know diddly squat about overloading the circuits and technical information about that. The actual laying out of cables and instaling switches is the stuff that I think is straight forward. Dont mean to put down all those fabulous sparkies out there. Wanna come visit and attempt the wiring? The power is already on at my shed, it just needs more power points and lights installed. I promise not to rearrange anythng after it is done. Feel free to bring your lovely wife. The cooking is good. The climate is not so hot atm though. l l Catherine_tv. I thought the batts would be best as well but thought I would ask anyway. Tradies may have different ideas or experiences. Thanks for the offer of help. Having renovated a few houses (currently living in and working on number five) I have done a bathroom or two and already tackled tiling l l Andy, Andy, Andy.....Long time no hear. I would expect nothing less than wool insulation from you. However, I am a cheapskate, hence why I have managed to aquire all these nifty little renovating tricks over the years. Wool is, has been and always will be a luxury fibre therefore, now that the massive stockpule of the eighties and nineties is no longer there, it is not cost effective. Sorry my gorgeous cockie. Yes, I will be taking plenty of before and after shots of my *sniff* sacrificed womans shed. It was gonna be converted into a dungeon l l l I got a fabulous entrance door and some amazing windows at the building recylcing yard to be delivered on friday. My little girl is getting all excited about her very first place!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Plumbing. I think you'll find that all plumbing must be done by a licensed plumber... not just the installation of toilets.I'm not going to lecture you on illegal building work. It's your property.. and your risk.Insulation... putting it in the right location is the key. This depends on your environment. If you get temps below freezing, then condensation is going to be an issue you need to address or you might find that water drips from the ceiling or the walls, even when it isn't raining.As for the type of insulation.. there's one called "aircell" that is like bubble wrap with foil both sides. If you can get some bubble wrap... it makes pertty good insulation by the way.HugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' It was gonna be converted into a dungeon l l l Oh no!! You have my sympathies. However, needs must I suppose......
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RHP User
15 years ago
..............I think you will find you will need to check with your local council as to whether or not you CAN actually convert a shed into a bedsit............you wouldn't want to get it all done then find out it is not legal and cop the huge fines for unauthorised/illegal dwellings!!!! Given that most councils require permits and plans for simple things such as pergolas etc, a bedsit is considered a dwelling, and therefore would need approval..........
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RHP User
15 years ago
Basic plumbing is too easy. I can....and do...do that already. I dont think it needs to be done by a liscenced plumber. I know condensation can be a problem. Many a cold morning in the shearing shed and we had to knock off work for 15 minutes or so while it "rained" in the shed. Makes the shearers cranky! Below zero? Only on a warn winters morning to we get to start the day with zero here. My house is an old weatherboard structure and it is insulated in the ceiling only. Bubble wrap? I guess it would. LOL. I never thought of that. I can bubble wrap the walls. Sounds like fun to me.
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RHP User
15 years ago
All is not lost Mistress T. Focus has a double brick, lock up garage and I do tend to spend a fai bit of time in Sydney these days!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I've done quite a few projects in your area Fi. We used aircell under the metal roofing, r3.5 batts on the ceiling and aircell to the Walls. In your environment buildings can benefit from as much insulation as you can throw at them. Condensation will be caused even if it isn't too cold. That's because all the breathing leaves moist warm air inside and when that air hits a cold surface the moisture is released. Ventilation is the answer if you can't stop the moist air coming into contact with a cold surface. In NSW there is an exempt and complying development state environmental planning policy. Google it to see if your work is exempt. Under the home building act you need a licensecto perform specialist building work, specifically, all plumbing and elex. Hugs St
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RHP User
15 years ago
the said use of bubble wrap is sounding moer like a play room then a bed sit ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or is that just my mind adding some oil and warm hands abd plenty of slip and slides andy,,,
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RHP User
15 years ago
love stalkeys idea with the bubble wrap ,,,,,,,i have used it before and it was great stuff ,,,,,,think of the fun you can have with popping the off cuts ,,,,,,,mmmmmmmm,,,,,,now thats a thought ,,making out on bubblewrap ,,,,wow ,,,,,,im off to bunnings for some queensize sheets of bubblewrap ,,,,,,,,,,lol,,,,,,,,,puts a whole new spin on popping the cherry ,,,,,,,,,
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' All is not lost Mistress T. Focus has a double brick, lock up garage and I do tend to spend a fai bit of time in Sydney these days! Please make Focus bring you to one of my play parties and I will make sure there is a nice fresh butt for you to play with.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' All is not lost Mistress T. Focus has a double brick, lock up garage and I do tend to spend a fai bit of time in Sydney these days! Please make Focus bring you to one of my play parties and I will make sure there is a nice fresh butt for you to play with.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hey thanks.... that's taking the idea another step further and I actually have to design a house with a dungeon i the next couple of months. It is a reasonable idea to use bubble wrap just as long as the lubes don't diintegrate the plastic.... could do a whole room in it.... paint the walls you don't want to see through.. that is.. paint the bubble wrap.. lolz. Also I'm told bubble wrap is not good in sunlight... which is why you find it floating around your swimming pool after a year or so.... that's maybe why aircell laminate foil both sides as part of their product.I've always wanted to use coca cola cans for insualtion... with the coke still in it... but then beer is cheaper than coke... so I thought of using a beer can wall with the beer still in it.. the liquid is an excellent thermal mass you see... but knowing my kids... the wall would only last a week. There's just no winning. Ok... maybe a fish tank wall.. oh gawdd... there you go.. now I've turned into Dr No.HugsStalky Quoting 'andreweagle' the said use of bubble wrap is sounding moer like a play room then a bed sit ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or is that just my mind adding some oil and warm hands abd plenty of slip and slides andy,,,
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thanks Stalky. As I recall one shed I worked in notorious for the condensation dripping down was actually insulated with that silver foil stuff. Bubble wrap could be fun....... l Andy wanna come test out my bubble wrap? I promise to supply all lubricant needed for the job. l Mistress T. Focus has indeed invited me to one or two of your dungeon parties but so far his year all play time in Sydney has been with the company of at least one of my kids....much to the disgust of Focus. Hoping to get a week all to myself late July. Will see how things pan out. l Doors and windows arrive tomorrow but they will have to wait until next week. I am off to town for a little child free play time.
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RHP User
15 years ago
FIONA, MAY I, offer you the paint, free of charge . I LOVE to have the opportunity to assist people who like to help other people, and in this small way, i feel as though we are doing something worthwhile for the people who are not as fortunate as others. Luckily, we have a business that imports Oikos paints from italy and all of them are certified by geca, good enviromental choice australia. www.designerpaintco.com let me know and we will arrange for you regards Martin
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