M51 F47
Jealously within a Relationship
August 03 2010
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RHP User
15 years ago
I know exactly where you're coming from Andy. I put a thread up a couple of weeks ago "bi chicks are boring." And they are if you're not in the thick of it. In a way I shouldn't be whinging too much because I've had the chance to be with some hot chicks but when you add up the stats on sexual ventures between me and Mrs Easy, she wins hands down.I've mentioned this to her and I just get a (you're a dick) look back. I wanna catch up but I dont think I ever will.I mean every bloke wants to fuck her and the chicks have all been bi or experimental and wanna play pussy on pussy games. I aint an ugly bloke, good looking without trying to sound like I've got my head up my arse but I dont have a pussy and thats what its all about Andy. So I've stopped sending/returning flirts and messages to couples or single chicks that are bi, looking now as you are for straight chicks or straight couples only.I think I might even take the bi bit out of our profile, wont tell Mrs Easy that though. Cheers Mr Easy
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting Andy: This is going to be on our profile - Seeking straight females to play with. Someone who will be interested in meeting us both, playing with us both (at times) I'm very straight and will not answer to that on your profile as being straight I will not play with both!! Am I missing the point here? You are asking for a straight girl to play with you both? Wouldn't happen! Sorry, just being honest! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Maaate this is the downside of being with a smokin hot bi girl, us partners are just an accessory. No need to even put your photo up there mate, even though from what we can see you are one damn fine looking fella. Yep I've felt like that before and would often if we participated more but we only play with a select few and try and select the ones where we'll both have fun. May I suggest you slow the pace down before you're against the whole thing altogether. I've had some amazing fun with girls way above my punching weight and you're a much better looking fella, so be selective as from what I gather from your personality in your posts if you're meeting girls that treat you like this your selection process is off. Oh and last of all, Mrs Pup loves a bit of girlie action but if she clicks with a guy she will show him more than his fair share of attention, maybe you should come visit!!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Awwwhh Andy the male. You're totally shaggable. Should you ever raise your couple's profile age limitations I promise to totally ignore Salina so you can gloat in all the attention. :p HUgs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
I'm not overly qualified to comment on this, but I have often read comments from other couples, or at least the male of the couple where they have a similar situation to yourselves and it would seem the the male often misses out on having his 1-1 or even if they both hook up with a female, she has more eyes for the female half of the couple. What you are describing also happens a lot when 2 couples meet up for fun. The male half is often pushed aside and what started out as a 4some suddenly becomes a 3some. Perhaps if it bothers you enough, you should stick with just 4somes.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Get used to it Andy. There are so many single guys out there in the scene. Women can pick and choose whoever and whenever they wish to play. Good luck with your hunt for the pot of gold that is a straight single girl that is looking for a couple. They are about but very rare. If you are finding it a little one sided then perhaps you need to discuss with Sal that you only play with couples so you both have your fair share of the action. If that does not sit well, then you will have to get used to the idea that our girls will always have the upper hand. They are the draw cards. We are just the monkey holding the banana.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I would love to shag you senseless Andy, any time you want :) And I can pretend Sal isn't even there if you like..... I'll show no respect to her whatsoever ;) You've got my number, drop me a line anytime. You are too gorgeous to say no to. Mrs W xx
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x2ForU
15 years ago
I can understand you andy... i am in a relationship and we play together.. most of the time..i am bisexual and like women but LOVE men more...if we play with a couple.. i will always start with the male.. and spend most of my time with him.. i am also making sure my partner is enjoying himself as well.... i will certainly spend time with the women as well but my main focus is with the male..... certainly had a good time with you .... and would love to do it again... shelly x
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RHP User
15 years ago
Your predicament is one that has been cried to the heavens since time began. I’m sure if you wound the clock back we would hear Mr Cro-Magnon belting his club into the ground screaming at the thunder god, asking why Mrs Cro-Magnon gets all the Cro-Magnon cock she wants. Yet the only pussy he’s getting is 12 feet long, has two fucking huge teeth and wants to rip his head off.Personally, I’m saving my pennies for the day David Jones starts stocking those creepy life like Japanese sex dolls, I’m hoping for the model that self cleans and it’s asshole doubles as a beer bottle opener.Good Luck, Mr Tmp1707
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RHP User
15 years ago
To quote Andy :P"I spoke to Salina about this, she is less than sympathetic, she's had an awesome month. Bi night with all those boys (including the aardvark) lets face it if she hadn't have jumped in Bi night would have just be 'gay night' so golf clapped to her for taking the plunge. She even had a one on one with a guy down in the garage while I was cooking them dinner. Okay i did text him from the stove saying 'go for it my boy, else the sprouts will go mussy' "The night before we went to Bi night at CI, we were in bed together and Andy told me he wanted to be utterly nasty and naughty at the event...so I did The one on one with the guy....Andy's idea :P And when I have not been in the mood to join in I have left him to it also.Then there was the time at the party where he and I did our first separate room experience and he had free range of whoever wanted him, or the time at CI where we did separate room with another couple!I resent the implication that this is all somehow my fault and I am unsympathetic!!! I have suggested we focus on couple play instead of threesomes, we both get what we want and...............In regard to what Andy suggests, I am totally cool with a threesome with a straight female so it is all about Andy, after all we have had straight MFM'sHere is what i suggest You are on a promise of a certain fantasy being fulfilled when you obtain your cert iv in fitness and that still stands....Hmmm, also the next time my sister/our flatmate is home and you are in the garage with another woman then i will text her and you two can get it on the garage too xxx SalinaLove you honey
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RHP User
15 years ago
awesome wish we knew the feeling not single BI girls are interested in us, and the bi ones in couples we know and basically fake bi's or only wanna kiss and suck my girls tits so in a way great means i get action, but sucks coz we are still chasing that illusive 3sum of me Ross with 2 girls that really wanna play together and also jump me
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'x2ForU' I can understand you andy... i am in a relationship and we play together.. most of the time..i am bisexual and like women but LOVE men more...if we play with a couple.. i will always start with the male.. and spend most of my time with him.. i am also making sure my partner is enjoying himself as well.... i will certainly spend time with the women as well but my main focus is with the male..... certainly had a good time with you .... and would love to do it again... shelly x We're with you on that...Mrs O is definitely Bi....but would climb the walls if she didn't have cock on offer too!.....besides, what I am going to do? I don't mind the occasional perve of two girls together, but I'd much prefer to see/touch/taste for myself. After all, if you see a great pair of slingbacks in the shop window, do you want to drool over them, or try them for yourself! (thought I'd attempt an analogy that might work for the females....lol)Mr O
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Mr_MrsJones
15 years ago
Lord says he agrees totally with you Andy. As do I (Lady) I have to say that while I appreciate a good woman and like some quality girl time there is NO WAY I would be rude enough to ignore any man that happened to find himself in my bed just because he happened to come with a hot chic. I find it irritating when we meet with couples and they both want to play with me rather than an even swap. For us its about EVERYONE having a good experience and I don't like to play with couples if the other woman is not interested in my man as I would not play with a couple if I was only into the girl and not the guy. So if you want an even swap we are here!!
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wannabyummymummy
15 years ago
That is surprising to me, i would shag you in a heartbeat Andy I have heard this a bit though from the male half of couples though i must say hubby and i have been lucky so far in this area as the other lady and i usually have a chat and make clear that it is a pamper session for HIM that way she knows that consideration for me is not required, i get my kicks seeing him being pampered and i certainly dont miss out that is for sure.Hope this post gets you some offers oh and you could drop me a line any time
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RHP User
15 years ago
I should start with saying that couples and the ladies who we have met (and the few that have commented on this post) feel secure that your sexual feelings toward me are appreciated, and are being noted as I type. Couples are fine, fair swap, you get over there, you come over here. XfunlovingX I understand what you are saying. And think I've worked out the problem. Guys will do pretty much anything to have sex, so if they must have a mfm then so be it. I've had the odd MfM and the guys have not touched, it would be classed as us all 'playing together' but the males keep themselves to themselves and focus on the lady. That what you say 'wont happen' happens alot. I hope we all noted what Sal wrote before about happy to play with straight girls. Now, my interest in RHP and Swinging has certainly taken a upward lift. Stalky and Puppy I guess I'll just have to come and see you in Sydney a
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RHP User
15 years ago
Pity Andy and Salina are outside our comfort levels with age. But we hit similiar sometimes! My straight wife comes up with things like: (she is a guys girl only in the bedroom) Nearly everytime we play the other lady touches me while I am having sex with her husband it spoils it and I lose the mood. or...I didnt think having sex with others was just foreplay! Or ...I will be fucking his wife and after 3-4 mins she pulls it out and leaves the bedroom...That has a 2 fold effect ...bloody great compliment for the guy....and her husband stops fucking my wife to comfort his wife. The truth of the matter is the other lady is Bi and was hoping to convert my wife to bi and it didnt work. You can talk all this thru with couples you meet, but in reality we think its luck. We will keep giving Bi couples the benifit of the doubt that they can play with the opposite sex only, as there are some really nice ones that do play. Cheers.
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RHP User
15 years ago
mad reply
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RHP User
15 years ago
I can identify with Sal and Andy although we have never been in that same position. We are pretty adament that we prefer straight than Bi' and I am sure this is the reason why our couple experiences have been limited. So we turned our attention to a selective male experince for Mrs JJ. After a pre meet' we agreed to meet with a good looking well mannered younger hung male at a city hotel.. The day was scarey and exciting for Mrs JJ and the meeting went off well' Mrs JJ giving me the thumbs up and smiling like a cheshire cat when it was all happening. I was happy for her.. Being a straight guy' I was content not to be involved at the time . I could wait til later after she had her fun and after we went out for some dinner'then had the whole night to ourselves. Then a strange thing happened.. When we were walking to the resturant' I could sense a change in Mrs JJ mood. She went from being over the moon happy to negative and dispondant . I could see she was feeling some guilt pangs' but I reassured her all was OK and just enjoy the night. Well' all I can say is that what should have been a day to remember turned around and bit me on the arse. She was so out of sorts it just killed off the rest of the night. Talk about a good thing go sour ? Me thinks she was totally inconsiderate.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'justjuice' I can identify with Sal and Andy although we have never been in that same position. We are pretty adament that we prefer straight than Bi' and I am sure this is the reason why our couple experiences have been limited. So we turned our attention to a selective male experince for Mrs JJ. After a pre meet' we agreed to meet with a good looking well mannered younger hung male at a city hotel.. The day was scarey and exciting for Mrs JJ and the meeting went off well' Mrs JJ giving me the thumbs up and smiling like a cheshire cat when it was all happening. I was happy for her.. Being a straight guy' I was content not to be involved at the time . I could wait til later after she had her fun and after we went out for some dinner'then had the whole night to ourselves. Then a strange thing happened.. When we were walking to the resturant' I could sense a change in Mrs JJ mood. She went from being over the moon happy to negative and dispondant . I could see she was feeling some guilt pangs' but I reassured her all was OK and just enjoy the night. Well' all I can say is that what should have been a day to remember turned around and bit me on the arse. She was so out of sorts it just killed off the rest of the night. Talk about a good thing go sour ? Me thinks she was totally inconsiderate. Wow Thats being super straight, more like 1 on 1 than three. You didnt all play together . Like: Watching your wives face as a new guy entered....the expression on my wives face is fantastic like "WOW" Her have sex with another guy while you are kissing her and shes got your cock in your hand , then she gives you oral while the other guy is having sex with her. You give her oral while the other guy is having sex with her while she gives u oral? Then you have sex with her and everything is reversed.... We reckon all that is still straight play. How about double penetration? Coffee break and round 2? Afraid this guy is not going to sit and watch or let his girl out of sight. Just a thought.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Good reply... and taken in the right way... yup' what you say was a great description of a ideal situation.. and point taken.. but on this occassion it was something for her... I was content to take a back seat and let her enjoy herself and then time for her to reflect. But it wasnt to be. But' life goes on and a lesson learnt.. Dont always assume you are doing the right thing.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Poor Andy. It really must suck to meet women who actually have respect for couple's relationships and are genuinely concerned about not having an angry/hurt woman to deal with because they do something that they don't feel comfortable with. Jumping in bed with someone is NOT an automatic green light to do whatever you feel like. In a threesome situation there is ALWAYS the potential that someone is going to feel left out and (speaking entirely from own perspective) I am always conscious that this doesn't happen. I've actually had a female say when I was with another couple (not in these words but implied) that she didn't like how much attention I was giving him and she felt left out. Maybe instead of assuming that they have the same feeling about the 'green light' that you do, you should speak up? A little communication goes a long way. I'm sure if they knew that Salina was okay with it, it wouldn't be an issue and everyone would be much more at ease and able to enjoy themselves fully without feeling like they need to hold back for the sake of everyones feelings. Just a thought... Miss Red xxxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Poor Red, seeing Red - Good lord that's a very specific response to a generic, tongue in cheek forum post. Valid points though and that pink lingerie is HOT, you goddess! Can't argue with a sane rational response like that. And you're right from now on I will speak up. I'll say 'Now ladies before we get undressed, I want you all to know that I'm expecting equal play, I'm going to get an egg timer and put it next to the bedside table. I want fair play, you must touch me, here, here and especially here, else I will feel very snubbed." ' Really though, do i get a say in it at all? So just to clarify this isn't pointed at a specific person, more an overlapping symptoms of what this lifestyle is like for a male in a couple.. Ultimately I'm not asking for more attention, simply equal attention. Equal attention surly would not give any unsettled wife/girlfriend cause for alarm or feelings of inadequacy. From why you're saying though Red is you've swapped it around and now give the female the most attention. Is that better?Anyway that again is not the point of my post. So to the readers in general You know what I would really like? I would like to met a lady (well not too much of a lady) that is as hungry for me as a single guy (or couple guy) would be for Salina. Don't get me wrong, I can count three times where I've legitimately felt this, and all of them came from females in couples. That was my point in the jealously topic. I want, that passion that Salina gets almost all the time. I see so many more one on one moments, so many more connections she makes with the ladies and the guys. Oh yes, okay i make connections and passion with people in the past.... but she gets it more, damn it.I guess what I would like to see is passion, honest to goodness tear yours and my clothes off in lust, get down and dirty sex. Is that even possible in this world or is it all chats, drinks and retire to the bedroom. Actaully, I think some of the other posters in here have shown some keen interest in some down and dirty times for the future. Checking my diary, yes I'm free everyday. Remember that first time you start a relationship sex, you go at it for hours, you're sweating and cramping up and you've cum so many times you've lost count, you're dehydrated and need a pee but you just keep going. That's what I'm talking about (okay forget the pee bit). No feelings, emotions and consequences. I already have one relationship to deal with all that in. Single girls and guys, you have free pass, pass go, collect $200. Land on the chance card that says Have some Primal, Down and Dirty, Sex and let them two deal with it when I've gone.It's not just single women by all means, that caused me to write what I wrote. When we first started, I've watched a husband shag salina with his wife next to me. I turned to her and said 'hey shall we do that?' and the wife said 'if it's okay with salina' Actually, no, If you're husbands cock is inside my partners pussy then you've pretty much got the green light. Green light people, for the future, if we are all getting into bed equal play is on. There I've said it so I don't have to say it to any more of you. Iif we meet in the future (unless you're a guy, then she's all yours mate :P) Mr Andyxxxxxxxxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
hey sal u want 2 annoy andy more?
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RHP User
15 years ago
Here is my take on couple play and just what we tell our patrons and newbies. When you come to the club or decide to play in the lifestyle it is all about You 2 as a couple. If ever if stops being about the both of you maybe you should stop doing it. Having said that , there are couples that play seperately, but in the end of the day most of them get together after wards and talk to each other about what happened and then have hot sex together at the thought of the play they just had. Now, as a young couple...coming to the lifestyle or club should always do this for themselves. They usually have money problems, fighting over kids, money and work. and want something to find eachother again. They attend the club. They watch and giggle like teenagers...they see things, they do nothing but be with eachother. They leave and drive home, they might not make it home. they pull over and fuck like school children in the car. they get home they then make love like they havent in ages at the thought of what they have just seen . They fall asleep, in the morning they wake up and look at eachother, instead of arguing and fighting, they say to each other, OMG where did we go last night and how hot was that. After all is said and done, they have started communicating again and giggling with eachother. If that is what happens then that is what we have hoped to achieve by supplying a venue like we do. You see it should always be about the 2 of you as a couple and not about one or the other, if it is about one or the other, it should be what both want and get turned on by. When playing as a couple, it should always be about the YOU as a couple, it should never be about one or the other, if you play as a couple if one of the couple is a little upset or not feeling comfortable the partner should stop, you see in the end, nothing is as important as YOU as a couple, and no sex is that important that you should ever make your partner feel left out or alone. My thoughts only and hope that helps people understand the couple side of the swinging scene. You see it is not always about sex, but sometimes about communication and finding yourselves as a couple and enjoying each other sexually. Leesa
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Mr_MrsJones
15 years ago
You make so many good points Andy. I really do get what you are saying about wanting that passion that Salina has. Personally I would love for Lord to have those moments that I always seem to get more easily than him but how to create them????!!!!!!!! One thought though, sometimes when you are a participant you see things quite differently from the observers so you may think she is getting more than you because you are watching her but not yourself??
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RHP User
15 years ago
Lady, I think you make a good point there. I do not always feel the passion Andy says he sees me share, infact I can count three people that I have felt that way with. The same number Andy can. And from my perspective I see he gets far more of it than I do.I want to get along with someone, I want an attraction and to click out of the bedroom so that when we get to the bedroom I can let down my barriers and enjoy myself, but I am not searching for that full on I want to run away with you because we are so hot together passion. I remember the first time starting a relationship passion that you speak of Andy, but we are not looking to start relationships, we are looking to enhance ours.I totally agree with what you say Leesa and it is funny because I said to Andy last night that I wondered when you would join us :)I have been on the other side of the fence and Andy has had the female of a couple throw herself at him to such an extent that I felt like I was not even there with him and she was. It was horrible, I like being Sal and Andy but that night it was Andy and that other one while Salina made polite conversation with he other half....It is disrepectful to throw yourself at another person with disregard to their partners feelings, so I get what Miss Red is saying.I get what Andy is saying too, equal play, equal attention, he wants to feel wanted by whoever the playmate is. When we play in an ffm situation then I expect Andrew and ofcourse myself to be responsible for making sure that I am not left out. When there are three of us, I am more likely to want equal share on Andy, he knows this because we talk about it and he makes sure that happens, after all if I am happy he knows we get to keep doing it :PI am like alot of the women that have contributed here, I like women and lurve men, for me bi play is in the moment, I do not think about it or fantasise about it but when i click with the right female then there is no holding back.Andy you know i hear what you're saying, and I do appreciate the singles that play with us and consider our feelings and respect we are a couple, that is soo important to me. Maybe it is my responsibility to say hey, it's ok? Sometimes I think I do by leaving the room for a while or saying, 'join Andy I will be there soon' but I guess people can not help their past experiences affecting their future ones......C'mon now, if some woman ripped you off me and said, 'He's mine!' we would have a serious bitch fight on our hands :Pxx Salina
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RHP User
15 years ago
After all, it is about "inviting " someone or others into YOUR bed, not allowing them into your life. They need to respect your rules and you need to respect their boundaries. Once is all said and done all that matters is You and Yours. I was told by a famous Porn star once ( belladonna) in an interview i did with her on the lifestyle, that the others that she plays with are just "tools" and i have to say i agree. Dont take that the wrong way peeps, just means, there is no feeling there other than a sper of the moment fun time and then "See ya, thanks for the fuck". Good luck guys, see you on the flip side xxoo Leesa
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RHP User
15 years ago
It is becoming quite clear to me that you two are not communicating properly at the moment, cos this post has become a she said he said, so why not stop swinging for a while, get back in touch with each other, discuss everything and then go from there!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Okay Andy here, Good lord, what a lot of fuss. 'stop swinging' that's not what's going to happen. And we do talk about all these things, I still like to get it out there, as does salina, good for the soul, me thinks. Our chats in the car are epic, and keeps our relationship nice and spicey. FYI BANGTOTHIS, I'm sure Salina will be in contact with real soon, just keep watching that inbox big man! And it wont annoy me, don't be silly, I think Jealously is one thing that we don't have in our relationship so good luck with your quest. but you might want to woo her with a little more than the occasion random comment though, send her a nice message. Fingers and toes crossed for your success ! :P Andrew
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RHP User
15 years ago
We are a couple, Sal Andy, Andy and Sal, Salina and Andrew...whatever you like but we are also individuals. While we play as a couple, share our lives as a couple, our home etc, our thoughts, feelings and opinions are always our own.We talk, the drive home after a night out, or curled up in bed with a late night snack after the other/s have left. What we like, do not like, want next time etc. There is nothing Andy has posted here that I did not already know.You have to understand, we value the opinions and experiences that others share in the forums. We take all points on board and it helps to get perspective. Not sure about the stop swinging or the clear lack of communication because we are doing it right now....Hmm, Oh well Andy, in future lets confer with each other and only ever post as SalAndy....but only after we are 100% sure that we are in 100% agreeance on any given subject matter :Pxx Salina
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RHP User
15 years ago
Sal and Andy are the most well adjusted couple on the scene we have seen in a while. They have it right and it works so well for them, some people should take notes from their communications skills and openness with one and other. Leesa, Bryan and John. Couples International
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RHP User
15 years ago
I was just trying to be helpful, don't jump down my throat. I dont care if you swing or not or who you do it with. Couldn't care less, but Andy comes on and says something and then Salina comes on and says but no it was like this and then he answers and it is almost like you don't know what the other one is thinking. I know you are not joined at the hip nor should you be.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hi Andy & Sal, Stu and I were talking about your topic and we understand where you're coming from (Stu more so as the male half). Andy - I don't know if you recall but Stu talked to you one night about the whole "pecking order" thing lol. I'm sure he will fill you in next time we see you:-) Sal is more likely to get attention not because she is more hot than you, (you guys are BOTH equally hot and intelligent, and the sort of couple that interests us in moving from 3somes back into couple swap:-)) but because there are more single guys out there looking, and more likely to initiate contact then single ladies. In terms of single ladies that join you both for a 3some, perhaps they think that it gets you hot and horny watching the two of them play before you join in and drive them wild?!! I'm sure some of it is that they enjoy a girl on girl experience but the fact they opted to play with a couple rather than a single lady is surely a good sign for you that you are indeed wanted for yourself also. Maybe the girl on girl was simply foreplay leading to you as the main event We find when we play with single girls the girl on girl action normally starts first and I have to direct things to Stu to let the girl know that I'm completely into it and get off on watching Stu with another girl. Like Sal pointed out as well, in a 3some situation you sometimes will feel a bit left out and don't be worried you're not wanted or scared to involve yourself. Dive headfirst in where necessary and perhaps with a bit of caution (just a little bit)! It's sometimes a tricky situation for the wonderful singles that join us couples, as they may be weary about overstepping boundaries or someone freaking out if they pay too much attention to one or the other. We have had a few single ladies comment on bad experiences they've had with the female half of a couple freaking out or giving them the cold shoulder. It's important for us as the female half to let the single lady know that it's ok and there is no red light coming through words/actions!! Don't worry if you don't feel the same passion that you guys did at the start of your relationship with other people, that is probably a good thing and hey, if swinging boosts the passion between you guys and make you appreciate each other more like it does for us then that's a good thing. Leesa has great points around how swinging can help maintain a healthy, happy relationship. Good on you guys for putting honest topics like this out there - I think it's great and shows the honest, cheeky side of you both and the strength within your relationship, and it no doubt helps other people out there also. Alina xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
'Lady' may be onto to something, you do see things differently when looking for the other side. Like for example when you think someone is rudely 'throwing' themselves onto your partner maybe from their opinion they are just being friendly and normal amount of flirting (it is a bloody swingers paryt for god's sake!) and your partner is just as much or maybe more involved. I for one would never purposely be rude or ignore a female member of a couple. Wheres the point in that? I enjoy being friendly with a couple and am not going to purposely ostracize the female and have her hate me and never want to see me again! But on the other hand if I like the male half and he is totally hitting on me I'm not going to be rude and tell him to piss off though of course I will tell him in a friendly manner his behavior is a little inappropriate in a public place and infront of his girlfriend! The moral of this whole forum is that perspective is a very strong thing and things are not always how you percieve them. Ms S
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RHP User
15 years ago
Mrs here... Don't know what you're worried about mate... can't see you getting knocked back much by the ladies... if they are more into chicks than guys then I'd class that as more lesbian than bi-sexual, there is still a preference... most bi chicks would be stoked to get a shot with both of you! mind you nothing worse than being invited in and then not being allowed to go there either when the female partner decides to get all jealous, if we have a girl in I like for hubby to get his too, I get him anytime! As to your post I prob wouldn't go there either as if you're looking for straight I'd be too scared I'd forget! :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Okay this is just getting silly, Andy here. People who we have played with and you know for a fact we like, as we still talk and text and msn and make plans for the future. We are NOT talking about you! We are bringing up a whole 18 months worth of moments and situations. I wanted to write a post one night as it had been a while and people have said they enjoy my point of view on things. 2010 has seen the best moments of my life in this lifestyle and we have met the best people I could imagine! I'm not going to sleep with someone or connect with a couple then set them up with a massive post about how crap things are. My original post was generated from a conversation I had with a couple the last time I was at C.I, I wanted to write something because usually it generates a good and decent debate. Something that gets people, couples, singles, males and females in the lifestyle thinking and talking. Not for anyone to get upset, or think we are singling anyone out. I've not mentioned names, events or situations yet I've now probably lost two friends, possibly three. Perhaps I will stop swinging and just start writing erotic fiction instead and avoid the forums. Thanks for all the great responses though, to the rest of you it was fun and interesting to read all your POV.Please people don't think this is something Salina and I don't talk about, we talk all the time. She reads what I write as I write most the time. This is not something I'm burying inside of myself that's burning to get out. I'm not just whinging about how unfair my swinging lifestyle is, because i know for a fact it's pretty damn cool. To all the people we know and have offended I sincerely apologize.Andrew And Salina. P.S Desserts, I would never agree with anything you say. For a profile that reads 'Seeking Married Men in Sydney for daytime meets!' That right there negates any advice you feel you may wish to give me in the future.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Appears FFM 3 somes are complicated, and can be emotionally charged. Couples swapping and MFM appears far simplier....sometimes...
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RHP User
15 years ago
I'm not sure if there is a delay in posts being put up, but I responded to this very early this morning. So if this does end up doubling up then apologies to all. First off, I'm very concerned that people who I class as friends might be getting upset with us and our posting. For the record, Salina and I don't forge new friendships, make plans to meet people again, text, msn and generally have a nice time. To then stab them in the back on the forums. Salina and I have had 18 months of experience, in the field, on the front line, we have a back catalogue of experiences, please don't confuse those with ours. Personally I've had the best year of my life when it comes to meeting new people and having some awesome experiences. 2010 started with a bang and I hope it continues. I don't put things up on here to pin point anyone or anything, this topic came up after I discussed it with another couple at C.I. If things from my posts brush into fact or real life situations, I'm sure they have been discussed with the appropriate person or people at one point or another. Usually I will say something if I see a pattern in my thoughts after situations. I wonder if anyone else has these emotions thus the posts. If Salina and have had a good or bad experiences. or thoughts, feelings, emotions that is relative to swinging we like to put it out there, get everyone thinking about it and have a good old chin wag. I'm concerned that being an active swinger and being active on the forums does not compute. Perhaps I should move away from swinging and start writing erotic fiction instead. Might save a few hurt feelings and we will keep our friends. Writing in the forums helps us, it's a catharsis if you like 'a discharge of pent-up emotions so as to result in the alleviation of symptoms or the permanent relief of the condition.' says websters online. We don't share ourselves out like this because we are having problems communicating. If we had problems communicating then I doubt we would be able to share. Salina has her point of view, as a woman. I have my point of view as a man. You all have your points of view. Which leads me to this. I'm happy for people to rudely throw themselves at me anytime, thank you very much. For the record Salina is referring to a Passions Party we attended last year and a certain Amy Winehouse looking character. Andrew
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RHP User
15 years ago
Did I not read somewhere once that you and Salina had a fling before you both left your respective partners. Hell i'm just a married woman trying to have fun
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yes OMG i remember that, I was the Blond Italian girl who was asked to join you all up stairs, but to shy of course. You all enjoyed each other and if you can do that you both have an amazing relationship. A very stong bond between you. Jealousy a curse. remember. I wish i could be more daring. Only time can tell. ciao xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
You are quite right, Andy and I are the result of an affair, but you know, we learned from that. Every aspect of our relationship continues to be a challenge because of our actions back then.Hindsight is brilliant and if I had my time again, I would be have been big enough to speak up when I was unhappy in my marriage. Live and learn they say, but I am not as flippant as that. My ex, my children, Andy's ex and his son, our extended families and friends...we hurt people, jaded them and lost their trust. It was not cool.I have learned so much from my experiences, and I can not change time, but I can do things differently in the future and wish the best for the people that we hurt. Ms S, I am going to address you in a personal message as opposed to making more of a scene here, and same to you Ms Red. Alina, thank you for your words, and thank you Leesa for yours also. I guess, if you are going to put yourself out there then you have to be ready to hear it all. I totally support what Andy has said here, he knew the party I was speaking of, there is a huge difference between what is acceptable with people we have built a rapport with and people we have just met that night.Anyway, I could sit here and type away and bore you all senseless, or I could do something meaningful like spend with my children before they head off to their Dad's and be ready with a coffee for Andy when he gets home from work....Lol, that sounds, very much 'the wee wifey'. I should probably fix my face and put on a pretty dress too :Pxx Salina
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RHP User
15 years ago
This has been the most entertaining forum EVER! Kudos to you Andy for doing what you set out to do, open up a forum topic that would entertain and spark people's interest and (in this case) ire. It's a shame that people have become so outraged along the way. To back up Leesas comments, in the short time we spent with you, you guys seemed like the most genuine, happy, well adjusted, and sexually switched on couple. And reading your responses to each other just cracked me up as I could imagine Mr Wilko and I doing exactly the same thing just to get a rise out of the other. Mrs Wilko xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
That is almost always the problem when you start swinging someone always feels left out or gets less attention then there partner does, you have a good idea in trying to find a more straighter woman but be careful as a more "straighter" woman may get more attached to u and cause jealousy issues between u and ur wife (depending on the type of person she is) its a tough situation, but I think u guys should make another bi female aware of the fact that she has to show you some more attention :-) xxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
You are all mental!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Andy and Sal,I absolutely love your postings, and there actually are some of us on these forums who can see your posts for what they really are- Purely tongue in cheek, with a healthy level of pisstaking.FFS people- LIGHTEN UP!Sal and Andy, we may never share a bed, but hey i reckon you two would be the ducks nuts to catch up with for a few drinks!Mr luvsitruf!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I love it rough too, maybe we should meet! :PI am glad you get us, lol.....we even started questioning ourselves, for a little while. xx Salina
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RHP User
15 years ago
Salina and Andrew you can't leave!! I love reading what you both have to say...and especially love the way that you both put in your own point of view! I mean you aren't Siamese Twins sharing the one brain! Don't worry about others opinions on you...you know who you are....and it seems that others on here know you both as well....it would be so sad if you stopped writing in the Forums just because of the minority that take EVERYTHING so seriously!! Keep the banter up I say....I am loving it!! xoxoxox xFunlovingx
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tank__girl
15 years ago
All very entertaining, but I gave up reading on the 6th!? Andy if you need a girl to take it out on...make up no.s...revenge... whatever.. pick me!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Wow I should bitch and complain more on the forums, bootycallgirl I think I'm in love :Pandy
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RHP User
15 years ago
I keep popping back to this forum and to my surprise, it is still going!Maybe we are brave? I have not thought of it like that. I know when I am typing that people will see this, and Andy and I banter wherever we go.....we had a shop assistant once tell us it was cute :P Andy was most un impressed at the thought of us being cute! LolMikle, I am glad I touched you with my words, they were heartfelt and something I do think about in my quieter moments.Mikle, I just read your profile and saw your pics, with a bod like that maybe you should find your way to queensland! You also share the same fantasy as Andy, the whinger who blubs on here but actually has a partner who is willing to help fulfill his fantasy! Maybe we could get it happening for the both of you ;)xx Salina
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hello I just wanted to say that I have enjoyed this thread and that some of our experiences have been similar and others different. Every couple we meet and swing with has a different approach and its always interesting. We had a series of pleasurable encounters where I (M) definitely got the better deal but was too busy to really notice. when she pointed it out to me I decided to try and make the next few times better for her and she took the opportunity to have some fun alone a couple of times, leaving me empty-handed. Whatever happens its all good and I just wanna keep doing it. Like pizza - even when its bad (for me) its still pretty good ! XX :)
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