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Its Sad :( Younger & Younger....
January 27 2010
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RHP User
16 years ago
I have been noticing that aswell !! everytime I go to the shopping center I see young girls practically dressed as hookers sum of them...I can't really talk tho bcoz wen i was 15 I always tried to wear the most revealing and tightest clothing in order to attract the males attention but what I didnt realise or wat the young girls dont realise is that they r attracting the wrong sort of attention from the wrong guys ...Ive now learnt the classier u dress the more decent guys u attract.. they shud also feel ashamed of wearing clothes like that with everybody looking at them ...and they wonder why ppl look at them ha ha actualli i have seen the bottom of sum girls ass cheeks hanging out ther skirts ! REVOLTING and sum of those girls shud not be wearing short skirts at all
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RHP User
16 years ago
Yeah, i wonder what goes on in some parents heads as well, although maybe some of these children leave the house appropriately dressed then change to their "alternative" dress code. Absolutely some of the outfits these kids wear are just atrocius.I think some people have absolutely no idea about Parenting and discipline and let their kids run amok, so they become yet another burden on society!Cheers Nev.....off to BBQ, yeah i know only a day late...Doh
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RHP User
16 years ago
I think the only attention they wud get is the wrong kind a girl is def a lot more attractive wearing something nice than something scanky well there is a time and a place anyway if a girl can look good in a top and jeans then generally she wud be hot
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RHP User
16 years ago
wat wud u prefer...a naturally sexy girl who is wearing comfortable clothing that extenuates her features or an uptight looking girl who is trying to hard to look hot ...?
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RHP User
16 years ago
I remember watching a show on the History channel on fashion and how it changed with the economy etc... but in the last few years it has gone ridiculous.I'm all for the skimpy outfit, but only on a legal woman (18+) who looks half decent (have seen many a person who looks like they don't own a mirror... and that's coming from a fashion misfit mike me!).
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RHP User
16 years ago
The society promotes this in one way or another. The ever decreasing age of pop singers with the Miley Cyrus brigade. Young models are tarted up to the point its hard to accurately determine their age once heavily disguised by make-up and dressed to the hilt in high heels. All reinforced by the media coverage... Kids don't seem to be kids as much as before... being pushed by advertisers into being make-up and clothing consumers. Kids are a big demographic target for manufacturers... everything from music, movies, magazines and fashion. Being more and more pushed into emulating the twenty year olds. Its a big market they have tapped into which was much more dormant by comparison with earlier decades. Just like sex sells... it's now filtering down to the kids... and you then worry about pedophiles.
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RHP User
16 years ago
reading all these-I can see there is going to be some grief when my lil girl grows up..I know she wont always be Daddy's lil girl but I hope between now and then I can help to teach her some self respect and morals and that she learns too be comfortable enough with herself to not have to go to those lengths to attract attention. failng that there is aways the convent!LOL!
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RHP User
16 years ago
It's a disgrace... I'm not sure why their parents even buy those clothes for them, or allow them in their cupboard... It looks tacky, cheap and it reeks of "bogan". It turns them into a target and is sooo dangerous. Here on the Sunshine Coast it’s pretty bad. The kids all wag school and hang around the Sunshine Plaza or the Alex skate park. They smoke and break bottles, and yeah... the girls all look like little hookers. It's no wonder the news is always full of paedophiles and kidnappers doing their thing... Some kids probably have no hope... They're most probably from loveless homes with parents who don't feed them.
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RHP User
16 years ago
It really has gone to the dogs. I understand that some girls change after leaving the house, but when I was working in retail I had a mother and father bring their 10 year old daughter through dressed in a micro skirt, tank top and 3 inch heels..... I don't mind the idea of consenting adults dressing as they please, but thought that being out with her parents they would have had more sense. Marketing has only so much to do with it, at the end of the day the parents have to be parents and not try to always be their best mate. Mind you a true friend will tell you if somethings not really appropriate. Hopefully this is the glitch like the late 60's where a number of new things were tried and sanity was restored eventually. Maybe not, who knows
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RHP User
16 years ago
Reminds me of the story in the paper around schoolies last year on the Gold Coast. A 12 year old girl who came down from Brisbane to the Gold Coast, unkown to her parents. Was found drunk and drugged to the eyeballs fortunately by Schoolie volunteers, but easy to see how some of the less desirables can and do prey on young and naive girls. It is a sad reflection on our Society as a whole, but I guess it is Society that gives them these sorts of role models to look up to. It was only a year or so ago that nearly every it actress in the US was appearing with beaver shots in all the gossip rags and internet sites (go Paris, Lindsay, Nicole etc etc), sorry no answers but where do you start?????????
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RHP User
16 years ago
Ok guys, here is another side.... I have seen this happening for many years too, but what some dont see (especially the parents) is that these girls are parent smart....they leave the house looking all sweet and nice....and then change at a friends house etc or have the outfits underneath...... there is a lot of parents that are very aware of what there kids leave home looking like, but without continuely glued to them, dont see what they do around the corner...... so what is the answer.....mmmmmm maybe more education to these girls of the ramifications of looking way to older than their minds can handle.....or able to live with any consequences.... also another side......WHAT ABOUT THE SHOPS, THAT SELL THIS STUFF.....should they too be accountable for what they are offering......again i never bought my daughter this stuff, but she saved and bought it herself, and i found her out one day and we had a very long discussion about what could happen......and we then went about finding a compromise.....eg, skirt at a reasonable length, a sheer shirt but with a tank top under......
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RHP User
16 years ago
and as hotasice said, they will attract the wrong kind of attention, from the wrong kind of guys.I do not think it is disgusting, i am really just saddened by it all. The bigget problem is that in our society we don't make enough time to spend with our children in order to better educate them on the merits of values, integrity and class.It is much easier to let the mighty"TV GODS" fill the young impressionable minds with all sorts of crap, so that the parents can do whatever they need to do.It is so much easier to blame, teachers, and others for the misgivings of our youth, than to take it on the chin and accept responsibility for our own.i have the utmost respect for teachers in todays society and other people in similar positions, who have to put up with many of these kids who lack respect for their elders.These are the same kids who act tough as all hell, but crumble at the first sign of getting beaten.Sorry going off on a tangent here - jeeze i feel old hehe
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RHP User
16 years ago
I am also dumbfounded at the foul mouths young people have..... Young women at bars....every second word out of their mouth is profanity..... You'd think it would be better in a country town.. sighhhh... sweetpetite41<<
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RHP User
16 years ago
Whats also sad is the fact that living in hervey bay they have nothing better to do! On a friday night you can drive around here and see a whole group of underage girls hanging out in the Mcdonalds car park hanging around older guy who are showing off their cars. And iv seen more worse things than that. Some of the problem has to do with the fact there is nothing better to do on the weekend and hervey bay is bloody boring! So the younger girls hang around and try to pick up guys simply because there is nothing better to do. Iv lived here all my life but I was one of those shy bookworm types who never went to parties. And i wasnt interested in guys till I was 17 LOL But the other big problem in hervey bay is teenage pregnancy its everywhere I mean dont parents give kids the "safe sex" talk? I got it almost once a month from my mum since I was 13 LOL Then again i grew up in a family that was very open about such issues.
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RHP User
16 years ago
It's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations for parents. Marketting has gotten out of hand, hit bedrock and started with the C4. It was bad a few years back, but where I'm at, both in terms of the school and local shops it's only getting worse. Before you know it it's going to be naught but paint.....Personally I wish there was a way to target the people pushing the stuff on a marketting level. Someone, somewhere has to be thinking that because a certain music, product or whatever isn't getting deep into the Australian market they have to push it in, whether it's wanted or not. This aspect of it is most certainly not wanted.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Yet another topic that I posted months ago and coped abuse about rehashed by someone popular.Funny how when it's an attractive female who posts it that everyone approves it but if it's a " whinging 30+ single male" everyone gets on the bandwagon and attacks the guy.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Well I guess when you can sell your virginity on ebay and become famous for it, there may be no hope for us as a Society!!! But, there has to be....................
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RHP User
16 years ago
Having read most of your comments i ahve to agree with all of them... but the biggest thing that has fallen over the years is the lack of discipline in the house hold... when i was younger if i stepped out of line i got a swift kick up the backside from my parents... Todays youth have the " Law " on their side that if a parent touches(smacks) them that they can prosecute them... where have we all gone wrong. For this reason Gen Y dont respect anyone not even themselves as they know everything ... until of course they get themselves into trouble then its the parents or friends thathave to bail them out of trouble... Thoughts anyone?
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'Whitehawk77' Yet another topic that I posted months ago and coped abuse about rehashed by someone popular.Funny how when it's an attractive female who posts it that everyone approves it but if it's a " whinging 30+ single male" everyone gets on the bandwagon and attacks the guy. You are absolutely correct Whithawk, totally agree with you Maybe if you stopped feeling sorry for yourself things would be different. It has nothing to do with popularity, and everything to do with personality. Through these forums one is able to exude snippets of their personality, and unfortuately you tend to exude a rather banal and one dimensional personality.I am a firm believer of you reap what you sow, and you tend to sow a little too much hate in your postings!I am sure if we met in a pub or the like, you would be a great bloke. (Stretching?)Maybe try lightening up a little, these forums are meant to be fun mate. Don't take it so seriously. It's just a forum! If the postings on here start affecting your personal life and keep on making you upset, maybe it's time to re-evaluate whether posting on forums is for you.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Great topic and some wonderful posts, specially impressed with the comments from those that were teenagers not so long ago - excellent maturity at such a young age. I do feel qualified to reply here, I raised my daughter by myself since she was 12 (8 years ago) and we lived in Sydney with all the city pressures associated with it. I was lucky,a very lucky. My daughter never wanted to be part of the "cool crowd" so we never went thru the whole skanky dress issue. She still credits one thing I said to her all those years ago. I told her if you dress like a slut, you will be treated like one. Simple words but it struck a cord with her and know at 20 she is still careful of what she wears when going out. But a lot of this still falls back on the parents. Most 12, 13 etc girls don't have the money to buy their own clothes, Mum and Dad still do immitation of the walking talking ATM. As whilst KICKOUTOFLIFE is right, some girls do change after they go out, some parent still bought those clothes for the girl. Unfortunately there are parents out there to contribute, even encourage their pre-teen child to dress like an adult because they think it is helping them mature. To me that is just bad parenting, simple as that. One thing to consider though. At that age, children imitate those around them and what they percieve as being adult. They get their inspiration from TV, magazines and even their parents. I remember at one parent teach night, a mother of one of my daughters friends was moaning to me how she can't get her daughter to wear appropriate clothing. I looked at this woman, she was wearing a skirt smaller that some belts I own and a short crop top (remember this is a school event) and just shook my head and moved away. Her daughter was only following what her mother exhibits. Unfortunately, as CAPITAL said, parental control has been eroded. We can't disciple our children as our parents disciplined us. I remember when my daughter was 13, she came home from school and told me what I can and cannot do in raising her. She has rights she demanded, a teacher has spent an entire class teaching them their rights. Even told them that if I didn't allow her to do what she wants, she can complain to DOCS (even had a page with their contact details etc) and I would get into trouble. I did two things, the first was to walk into her bedroom and get her suitcase and put it on her bed. Told her that if she didn't like the way I ran things, she could leave and either live in the streets or with her mother - whilst she is under my roof she obeys ME! The second thing I did was call the principal, we had a discussion (being polite here) on the content of the lesson. His excuse was they are mandated by government to inform these young adults of what the institutions can provide them. mooka
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RHP User
16 years ago
My daughter was given a bunch of makeup for Christmas ( I would never have bought it for her, she's five), and already we have had an arguement about wether she is allowed to wear it out of the house (she's not), and I was taken aback when she said, "But Mummy, I'm not pretty without makeup". :o !!!!!!!!!!! So at the age of five she has already been influenced enough by society and the media, and she's never even seen an episode of Video Hits or Rage (and that is deliberate). Personally I wish I had never let her watch High School Musical - those dvds have a lot to answer for in our household lol. Hopefully we can raise her with enough self esteem to know that she does not need tarty clothes and a face full of makeup to get through in life (or at least her teens lol). But as it's been already mentioned here, the chain stores have so much to answer for - "pussy power" tshirts at Supre for example, where so many 11 - 15 y.o girls do their shopping... and the recent Roger David fiasco - selling tshirts to young men with images of women gagged or their eyes blanked out, rendering them voiceless objects. It's not just the young women who are targeted, but also the young men who buy into this 'cool', and sadly, often have noone to tell them better. Branding is embedded in a tweens concious now, as a result of a concerted effort by the big advertisers, and these poor kids have no idea that is this case. Most of us adults don't realise that we have been groomed via advertising for years, either. Advertising is so subversive this days, and it is directed at children hardcore from the age of 2 or 3, and it is done deliberately so they learn how to subvert their own parents. Our parents didn't have o deal with the same cleverness of tact in advertising, and especially not the attempts to disrupt the parent-child relationship. But despite all of this, I agree with most of what has been said above, some parents need to harden up a bit and put the foot down. It's a scary prospect (eek!) but it has to be done. Cheers, xxT
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RHP User
16 years ago
unfortunately nothing can hide the fact things are changing everyday... unfortunately one of them is young girls attitudes (and guys to! im not bagging girls, just the topics about them) ... younger and younger dressing to impress (look at me scenario) and sadly not dressing appropriately...personally as hotaz asked... wat would you prefer... being realistic, a girl to looks after herself, dresses well, yea dont get me wrong loves skirts hehehe... but on chicks older then 18 that is... AND which doesnt make them look ummm "skanky" if thats the right word to usebut its the attension they seek... and boys around their age give it to them...parents aren't completely to blame these days... we try hard... in regards to clothing from a parent point of view, when there out ... throw out the items that are inappropriate (hehaha) "what shirt? what skirt? did you put it in the wash? leave it at a friends house?" hehehe....BUT! as mentioned by kickoutoflife... they change after leaving the house or at a friends place... so its a never ending battle...i have awhile before i have to really worry about these scenarios with my lil one but thanks to others posted here! alil more heads up on things is much appriciated :-)Clint
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'taby001' Whats also sad is the fact that living in hervey bay they have nothing better to do! On a friday night you can drive around here and see a whole group of underage girls hanging out in the Mcdonalds car park hanging around older guy who are showing off their cars. So what sort of attention would a rusty Datsun towing a caravan filled with three sexy guys get?.. One of them an expert chef, the other a wise counsellor and the third a bit of an all-round legend. Probably not that keen on the under-age thing... is there a car-park near the old folks home you could recommend? PS - For those following the road trip... things are pretty full on. I've run out of thumb tacks to put on the map (just added Hervey Bay)... soo many destinations. Off to Officeworks to get some more. Will grab a new labeller too - lost the last one in an orgy (I think - you know how after 4 beers you have one of those 'WTF - I did who / what / where, and has anyone seen my labeller?" moments.) Back on topic... I agree with the general consensus against these skanky-dressed (very) young ladies, luckily I have a thing for tracksuit bottoms with thongs and a tank-top. It's mucho sexier than skanky given the right body to drape it off.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hi tabi..some chain stores even have miniture womens under wear for girls from the ages from 11 n up.i feel that some parents that allow the young kids n teens to dress the way they do(.who buys)then there us parents who take the time and effort to communicate with their kids about things..eg every action has a reaction..n consequences.Ive been blessed to have wonderfull children.and my heart goes out to those who's kid/s that dont show respect no matter what...cause as we know being a parent is the hardest full time job..xoxoxmumma
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RHP User
16 years ago
Excellent insight into this subject... Is it my imagination but are we not being subverted by these bleeding heart impractical people, who are often the vocal minority. They express all manner of concern for injustice and push for reforms which often represent cases of the cure being worse than the sickness. In the long run they undermines sensibility and encourages anarchy... and the longer this practice goes on... the harder it will be to fix as the norms of society change. How often do we see the perpetrators of crime be given the benefit of the doubt. It seems that the perpetrators are given more rights than the victims... or at least more so called justice. There was a teenager over here who was a multiple offender. He killer a taxi driver... but was then let off leniently. He then went onto commit another long spate of crimes... If I remember correctly 400 in all... before the government tightened up the laws for multiple offenders. But it didn't stop the the ongoing throwing of rocks at car windscreens from footbridges over the freeways, the savage beating of the elderly and police officers, the arson taking place in plague proportions... wiping out whole towns, and so forth. The rat-bags in society know that the courts will go lenient on them and free them to offend again. Even media reports outside the courts show family members of the accused acting in a thug like manner spitting at reporters, smashing cameras, swearing and being most threatening. Half the reason people act in this way is because they can and the consequences are minimal. If the schools are being instructed by the bureaucrats to teach kids how to avoid discipline and thus encourage irresponsibility, then there's not much hope if we remain apathetic and let the so called decision makers slowly destroy the fabric of our society. People do these things because they can... and yet we are supposed to be a democratic society... but who is ruling who? Sorry for the rant... but it does seem that Blind Freddy has more vision that the powers that be....
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RHP User
16 years ago
Mooka, well done i am with you, Kerrie and I were always big on discipline right from the get go! I see others are blaming the department stores, no offence but thats a cop out, just because they have it for sale doesn't mean its ok to buy, thats just failing to take responsibility for your own actions, but that sadly seems to be the way of the world now, "its never my fault...its always someone else's" what a load of horse shit !!!Cheers Nev
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RHP User
16 years ago
Ummm how to answer that aaah someone who can make comfotable clothes look good wud b 10 times hotter than someone who has to wear that shit to make them selves (not look good) but attract attention that's easy lol trust me I wud go for u if u were wearing a table cloth lol ;)
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RHP User
16 years ago
Its conditioning through advertising in fact they corporatism used Freudian and other psychology since the 60's, the magazine image and make up image is to make you think that you have value and acceptance and to make you feel socialy acceptable, sex sells is conditioned as a sub culture for profit. Its one thing to look "sexy" that's a manufactured image, its another to understand the function of the orgasm and even sexology.There is a reason (System) for neurotic symptoms and sexual abuse, study Wilhelm Rich.
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