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In a recent post the OP mentioned that women were turned on by his guns...not muscles but firearms
November 08 2012
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RHP User
13 years ago
I don't find them sexy...I shoot for sport - target shooting...have never shot anything live...and really enjoy the sport. I am also a Range Conductng Officer and take safety very seriously as do most licenced Shooters...
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RHP User
13 years ago
But saying that I have used them and killed things, but I lived on a cattle station in the NT and it was part of the job. I know a gun dealer in the USA and he luuuurvs his guns and wanted to show my hubby his collection I said do not bother he carries a glock at work and uses M16 as well, so its not a love of guns for hubby, its just a job as well. Not a turn on when you see the damage it does, and live in a war zone like I did in Israel. They should never be used on people, but alas sometimes people have to defend themselves in some situations any woman that thinks there sexy has no idea or seen them used on living things target practice is another matter, then its a sport but not one I find sexy at all and my Uncle was a champion shooter.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Its the people that use them that are the real worry Ditto Israel TR ..as you know my history there.
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Innercircle
13 years ago
Some people like others to shit in their mouth... so why would being turned on by gun ownership be unusual?
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jenniecruising
13 years ago
I find Commodore V8's sexy, they have killed more people in Australia than guns have.I also find nurses and doctors sexy, again they have killed more people in Australia than guns.Some people find food sexy and it's killing fat people quicker than mini-gun on full auto.Guns have purpose just as cars, doctors and food do. Not everyone should have a car be a doctor or eat too much.
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RHP User
13 years ago
but if he wants to keep it in the bedroom and play with it during sex it might be best kept unoloaded
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RHP User
13 years ago
but if he wants to keep it in the bedroom and play with it during sex it might be best kept unoloaded
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RHP User
13 years ago
Ermmm Freya dear, I'll call you out on this one. Why does owning a firearm change the person?? I like clay target shooting as a sport, I like playing golf as a sport, it doesn't change the respectful interactions that I have because I own a 12 gauge does it?? If so, maybe people won't like me because I drive a truck for a living, or perhaps own a commodore. You may like knitting, crocheting, or whatever, how would you honestly feel if I said to you, "sorry Freya we are perfect in so many ways, but because I don't like people who play with needles, you turn me off"??
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RHP User
13 years ago
a sexy half naked,tattoed woman holding a gun is pretty sexy in my book .. but i do agree guns should be illegal .
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RHP User
13 years ago
Firearms are just another tool around the farm, from feral animal control, to putting down sickor injured livestock, to keeping in check Kangaroonumbers. Personally I don't find firearms sexy and these daysdislike having to kill any animals, but it's a sometimesnecessary job. In my younger days I was a keen hunter.I'm sorry you find that abhorrent, but I suspect thereare plenty who feel the same way. Purely emotive views withoutknowing anything about the issues at hand are all to commonin this day and age.Cheers Felonious
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Lifes_great
13 years ago
But there is nothing wrong with guns.....they have their place if used correctly. As a sex toy or prop.....never!
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Lifes_great
13 years ago
on this one. I grew up around firearms and was taught gun safety by the time I was 10. They have their place. Are they sexy....not to me.
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RHP User
13 years ago
My comment was along the lines that some women I've known have been extremely turned on by guns while shooting in a paddock or at the firing range. So a little context would be in order. I have no doubt these exact same women would vomit if I asked them to shoot an animal. But why not next take the killing of animals further, fishing rods should be banned because they throw the line and sinker which is attached to a hook which has a bait on it that fish eat, and sometimes the fish is undersized and needs to be thrown back with a tiny hole in its lip. At what point do we say enough is enough? I also carry guns for work Freya, both concealed and overt and so I get no sexy thrill from guns either, nor do I go out hunting to shoot animals for a big game club or anything of the sort. So there's a little more information for you before you judge me as the next columbine massacre gunman!
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RHP User
13 years ago
I thank you Felonious for keeping Kangaroo numbers in check...as I am sure anyone else who drives on country roads frequently would thank you...
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RHP User
13 years ago
Is gun ownership Sexy simple question nothing wrong with owning a gun, for sport or when your on a farm if your wanting a gun for a dick extension then you have problems, same as wanting that flash car or any other symbol that you may feel makes your dick look bigger. Women also are attracted to these things so , it must work at times. and I am guilty myself, in that I find cops a turn on, with the gun and all at there hip I like movies that are action packed with men with guns, and uniforms but in reality in my every day life, then no, they do not turn me on, there may be something symbolic in the gun though in a sexual capacity, Horses for courses
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RHP User
13 years ago
I also find nurses and doctors sexy, again they have killed more people in Australia than guns You know this how ?????????
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have a single barrelled trouser cannon but it only shoots blanks.Thats why my last girlfeind sacked me. <(thats not a typo either)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Especially the really really big weapons.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I personally find guns abhorent,I am so glad that gun ownership is not entrenched in our culture.Sure heaps of other things kill more people than guns in this country but in the wrong hands they certainly can and do.This is my opinion. My first husband kept a rifle in the cupboard,he constantly threatened to use it on himself if I left him.I did and he didn't,but at the time it was incredibly frightening,I was only 21 years old. I am completely puzzled as to why any woman or man would find a gun sexy. Hardtruckin' the reality is, if you disliked my knitting,crochet or gawd help you my poetry,that is your perogative. An emotive issue felonius,sure is,am I ignorant of the issues at hand,no. Do I dislike people because they own a gun,no but people who find pleasure in killing anything,well I dislike that behaviour,not necessarily the person.Would I consider a relationship with a man who owned a gun ,no.x R
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RHP User
13 years ago
If I find a person sexy. They are sexy in my eyes for who they are, not what possessions they have, interests, passions etc. In my view Freya, your ex husband would've said the same thing even without the firearm ownership. Yes I have to take my own advice with this, but I think it's a little bit harsh to generalise upon those that are indeedly responsible with their weapons. Firearms, or in my case my ex wife's weapons of mass emotional destruction - her words.
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RHP User
13 years ago
That is to say, I can't see anything sexy in guns but I do understand that some women might. It's not the destructive or lethal force of a firearm but the power of it which might entice. In the same way that some women find muscle cars sexy, or the way some teenage girls will put out for a middle aged man just to ride on the back of their Harley, or the way an otherwise respectable Jewish girl will drop to her knees for the President of the United States of America. Some women are drawn to power.
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RHP User
13 years ago
MMmmm as a dcotor I find that statement somewhat offensive Quoting 'Shinasbabe27' I also find nurses and doctors sexy, again they have killed more people in Australia than guns You know this how ?????????MMMMMMMMMM from a NURSES position .. I also find this comment extremely offensive .. I would say .. that one would hope that jenniecruising never requires the services of either a Doctor or a nurse in thier life time .. after a comment like that ..
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RHP User
13 years ago
I don't think you can seperate the destructive or lethal force of a firearm from it's power,the power to kill.As TR says a woman or a man may find a gun sexy as they see it as an extension of the penis,a phallic object perhaps.x R
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RHP User
13 years ago
That the firearm on its own is not lethal. It's a mechanical device that requires operation. What should be the feared component, is who's vacated their mind enough to pull the trigger toward an innocent?? That's what should be feared, not the object. A knife in my opinion is more lethal.
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RHP User
13 years ago
In so far as a firearm can be used from a distance, and you have no idea what hit you, especially automaticweapons that have the capacity to kill a lot of peoplein a very short space of time. There is very littledefence against a firearm. Your right in as much as firearms are quite safe on theirown, although they exist principally for one purpose only.Yes Knives are terrible weapons, and I can say thatas a survivor of a knife attack.I can understand Freya's Abhorrence towards firearms afterwhat she went through, but can't agree that firearms should bebanned outright.Cheers Felonious
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RHP User
13 years ago
:)
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RHP User
13 years ago
My partner of over 20 years got shot and killed in a mindless drive-by shooting in America where a few lives were taken! What do I think of them? I think my first sentence answers your question! xFunlovingx
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RHP User
13 years ago
The other fella pulled a knife. I still won. I changed the fight into a foot race and outrun the bastard. I doubt that I coulda' outrun a bullet.
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RHP User
13 years ago
that is absolutely horrendous,x R
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RHP User
13 years ago
I got stabbed in 09 so I get the idea that weapons of any kind are dangerous, but my stance on ANY weapon is that it's the idiot that is holding the weapon that is the problem not the weapon itself. As someone who has also carried firearms for work I see this from all angles. It sucks that some people are deranged and do stupid things but If people look at the original comment I made you will find it has been blown way out of proportion.
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RHP User
13 years ago
...if it's all the same to you, I'd prefer to imagine it's the power that attracts them. The idea of a gun barrel as a phallus brings tears to my eyes.
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RHP User
13 years ago
There is a saying in the U.S. : God made manSam colt made them equal.Guns are nothing more than a conglomeration of pieces of finely machined metal.You put a bullet in it, and it is STILL just a piece of metal.It is the PERSON who is dangerous, not the gun.The media has succeeded in brainwashing the public in to believing that guns are 'evil'PEOPLE are evil.While there are many crimes reported in America by guns use, Many MORE crimes have been AVERTED by just the THREAT of gun use.Someone is breaking in to your home and you tell them 'dont come in here, or i will shoot you'.You might not even OWN a gun, but the criminal doesnt know that, since seventy MILLION Americans are packing heat.he leaves.crime averted.which brings us to another point.With seventy million Americans owning over a quarter of a BILLION guns (these are the ones that are registered), if the crime rate is as bad as the media says it is, you would need garbage trucks every day to pick up the bodies.doesnt happen. ninety nine percent of all gun owners in America are responsible gun owners.Here is a little know fact:you are ONE HUNDRED TIMES more likely to be accidentally killed by your doctor in America than you are by your own gun.LOGIC should dictate that since we ban guns because they are dangerous, we should ban doctors too.does it make sense?
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RHP User
13 years ago
the reason I started this post was because of your original comment that some women got turned on by a gun...I will never,ever relate to that .I haven't called for the banning of guns but I have said that gun ownership is abhorent to me.That is my opinion .This topic is a very emotive one and certainly I do not think that because someone owns a gun they are intrinsically an evil person. I do think that gun control is an important issue and it will be interesting to see if the USA tightens it's laws in the near future. The argument'' it's not guns it's people'' is getting a little tired'if this is the case then who the people are who have access to guns is absolutely essential and in fact this statement supports gun control. Paradoxically the man who invented the denotator cap for dynamite,who made a huge fortune from the manufacture of armaments instituted the Nobel Prizes, the Nobel Peace prize being one of them,Alfred Nobel was also a pacifist.x R
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'celebree' MMmmm as a dcotor I find that statement somewhat offensive Quoting 'Shinasbabe27' I also find nurses and doctors sexy, again they have killed more people in Australia than guns You know this how ????????? MMMMMMMMMM from a NURSES position .. I also find this comment extremely offensive .. I would say .. that one would hope that jenniecruising never requires the services of either a Doctor or a nurse in thier life time .. after a comment like that .. We take a Oath for a reason and be damn glad that we do . We question nothing about who and what you are, when you are brought into the ER, mangled and dying from a car wreck We are subject to a Ethic sand Morbidity commitee of which we are answerable for every action to our peers on every count....politics, religion, culture, race etc all means nothing..cause EVERYONE BLEEDS THE SAME COLOR ....yes people die....guess what. ? ..all of us will eventually of something be it thru illness or sadly misadventure Fuck me...after nearly 12 years of study I am at least acknolwedged financially for what I do but.....hospitals, nursing homes, aged care facilities, day care centers etc...would simply be screwed without nurses and the over the top duties that they perform and trust me it aint for the measly pay that they lovingly carried out their tasks... ...Nurses rock !!!!! Jumps off soap box
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RHP User
13 years ago
Due to not having instant posting privileges I missed your post Thankyou for sharing My turn to send a hug to you :) VB
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RHP User
13 years ago
It is not the ultimate power to be able to kill that is the turn on, it is not the person holding the gun that is sexy, nor is it the gun ownership. There are people who get turned on and can actually have an orgasm firing big weapons....not little firearms...just the same as there are people out there who can and do get incredibly turned on astride a powerful motorbike. Why is this so hard to understand? . Remember folks that guns do not kill..... People kill!
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RHP User
13 years ago
I shoot to kill to eat I shoot to humanely put injured animals down I shoot to destroy vermin which kill for pleasure. One of the most difficult things I have ever done was to kill a horse with a knife that had been badly injured by a car - With the woman driver and her two children a total mess... they couldnt drive away, so I made them walk way away to cause them less stress. I have put animals down with hammers, rocks, my utes, sticks, knives and axes... including a pregnant cow just out of Roebourne 12 months ago after she was hit by a truck and left to die. BELIEVE me.. it was a infinitely easier to perform these ugly tasks with a rifle, WHEN it was acceptable for me to carry one when I travelled out bush And soon, I will not be allowed to carry my knife. Come with me on my journey, when I had to assist a hobby farmer kill 26 of his sheep with a sledge hammer after they had been torn to pieces by DOMESTIC dogs - FOR FUN... then sit with me as we both cried. The Pork you eat from the supermarket. The Beef you eat from the supermarket. The Lamb you eat from the supermarket.. Go to your loal abattoir and see how they are killed... for YOUR dining pleasure.. THEN, call my firearm ownership Abhorrent. NOW Call me Abhorrent. JUST don't ever come and visit me please. I would rather live with real people. Disarming our country will not save lives. Those who are going to kill will just get more creative.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Shinasbabe27' Quoting 'celebree' MMmmm as a dcotor I find that statement somewhat offensive Quoting 'Shinasbabe27' I also find nurses and doctors sexy, again they have killed more people in Australia than guns You know this how ????????? MMMMMMMMMM from a NURSES position .. I also find this comment extremely offensive .. I would say .. that one would hope that jenniecruising never requires the services of either a Doctor or a nurse in thier life time .. after a comment like that .. We take a Oath for a reason and be damn glad that we do . We question nothing about who and what you are, when you are brought into the ER, mangled and dying from a car wreck We are subject to a Ethic sand Morbidity commitee of which we are answerable for every action to our peers on every count....politics, religion, culture, race etc all means nothing..cause EVERYONE BLEEDS THE SAME COLOR ....yes people die....guess what. ? ..all of us will eventually of something be it thru illness or sadly misadventure Fuck me...after nearly 12 years of study I am at least acknolwedged financially for what I do but.....hospitals, nursing homes, aged care facilities, day care centers etc...would simply be screwed without nurses and the over the top duties that they perform and trust me it aint for the measly pay that they lovingly carried out their tasks... ...Nurses rock !!!!! Jumps off soap box Nurses rock! Feel safe at night, sleep with a nurse.
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RHP User
13 years ago
That made me cry. Go you. Hug xx
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On_Safari
13 years ago
Stirred the proverbial hornets this morning gorgeous. Guns hmmmm my brother and friends oen quite a few, target shooting for sport and hunting for meat. They have their place, I'm glad the ownership of them is heavily restricted in Australia. I find the sporting side of things and being able to safely and accurately use a weapon to be a highly skilled attribute. My daughters are all pretty handy with a weapon and can box and fight. Does that make them lethal or just able to protect themselves? I like rabbit shooting.....my kids have grown up around rifles and knowing not to touch and only use with a grown up. Used in the right manner they can be excellent tools for teaching responsibility, respect and a healthy understanding of life, death and sometimes the act of humane kindness if a pet is involved. Personally I like hunting with dogs and knives. And know quite a few women who's testosterone pumps during the hunt. A gun is simply a tool, in the wrong hand it's a disaster. And guns don't kill prople. People kill people. Same can be said of mobile phones these days, and I think the damage they cause is so much more pervading and widespread. Each to thier own I guess. As for weapons in the bedroom, there's one in particular I enjoy (whether it shoots blanks or not!!) and don't think there's any real substitute for. Feed the girl more meat. Must be the redneck in me.......Yeehaaaar lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
guns are just another hobby.. and what is they say? 'people kill...guns dont'?......its a precise skill, and a healthy interest if your heads on ok.... and not all of us are interested in shooting up the country side, or killing for 'sport'.
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RHP User
13 years ago
i never thought owning a gun,carry a gun or have anything to do with gun/s sexy, too many lives been lots for nothing, so i said keep that thing away from me, coz its not sexy at all.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Lives been lost i meant.
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jenniecruising
13 years ago
Medical negligence deaths up in WA Date: Jan 19, 2012 An official investigation has found that medical negligence has resulted in the deaths of more than 50 people in Western Australia over the last year. According to the WA Health Department's 2010-11 sentinel event report there were 96 unanticipated incidents in the state over the 12 months - the highest ever recorded. I have only quoted WA figures as you're from WA. Quoting '0zboy' I have a single barrelled trouser cannon but it only shoots blanks.Thats why my last girlfeind sacked me. <(thats not a typo either)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Well now I have some really big weapons lol I love my guns :))
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RHP User
13 years ago
We are human too you know - Just wondering in the future what you will do when your faced with a medical emergency ? Quoting 'jenniecruising' Medical negligence deaths up in WA Date: Jan 19, 2012 An official investigation has found that medical negligence has resulted in the deaths of more than 50 people in Western Australia over the last year. According to the WA Health Department's 2010-11 sentinel event report there were 96 unanticipated incidents in the state over the 12 months - the highest ever recorded. I have only quoted WA figures as you're from WA. Quoting '0zboy' I have a single barrelled trouser cannon but it only shoots blanks. Thats why my last girlfeind sacked me. <(thats not a typo either) The ignorance and arrogance of some
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RHP User
13 years ago
.... men have gone on record to say they become sexually aroused by the power-kick of firing a machine-gun. More than one wartime pilot has remarked on it when returning from strafing runs, and if you doubt it listen to the radio chatter on the wikileaks Youtube of American helicopter pilots strafing civilians in Iraq - those boys were buzzing. I can only assume some women would feel the same way, though I've never met one, and I don't want to. In many ways a power-kick also comes from forcing unwanted attentions on vulnerable people - rape, in a word - so the more important question might be "would I go to bed with someone who gets turned on by guns?" and my answer has to be a definite NO.
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RHP User
13 years ago
...but I did take air-rifle in winter sports at school. I enjoyed the challenge and precision of it. I would actually like to own a rifle as we've lost many of our fowl to foxes and wild dogs but I don't qualify for a shooter's license (no, I don't care to elaborate on that). A gun is merely a tool and I don't find it any sexier than a hammer or saw. I don't find it any more abhorent either. Only people who would use a them against other unarmed and defensless people (or innocent animals) are abhorent. My respects to you and Funloving.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I'm not calling you a greenie, but I had a greenie in a pub once , telling me how cruel it was to shoot defenceless animals, I then challenged her as to whom has saved more of our native animals that she was trying to protect, her with her opinions or me with the hundreds of foxes and feral cats that I have shot, or how much erosion and land degradation that I have helped slow down by the thousands of rabbits and dozens of feral pigs I have eradicated over the years, not to mention the native flora and fauna they eat, I dont find guns sexy, but there is my point as to why they are needed. I'm not ashamed of being a registered member of the SSAA.
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jenniecruising
13 years ago
I would go to a hospital, never said all nurses or doctors were bad. I just quoted figures (official ones) to highlight the fact that doctors and nurses have been responsible for more deaths than firearms. Quoting 'Shinasbabe27' We are human too you know - Just wondering in the future what you will do when your faced with a medical emergency ? Quoting 'jenniecruising' Medical negligence deaths up in WA Date: Jan 19, 2012 An official investigation has found that medical negligence has resulted in the deaths of more than 50 people in Western Australia over the last year. According to the WA Health Department's 2010-11 sentinel event report there were 96 unanticipated incidents in the state over the 12 months - the highest ever recorded. I have only quoted WA figures as you're from WA.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I couldnt think of anything that would be more of a turn OFF!
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RHP User
13 years ago
"I don't think you can seperate the destructive or lethal force of a firearm from it's power,the power to kill"......Freya, the same can be said of the human mind. A firearm is nothing more than a tool, same as a knife, or hammer or screwdriver. Your issue with firearms ownership stems from the nutjob you were in a relationship with 34 years ago. I imagine you would fel the same way about knives if he had threatend you and himself with a knife? Personally, I have owned firearms since childhood, I'm a law abiding citizen and have never ever been in trouble with the police or law. Personally I find your opening statement offensive to be honest, but each to their own.....
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RHP User
13 years ago
This has developed into the verbal version of the "Shoot out at the OK coral"Simple question, complicated answers.A) I dont find them sexy.B) I dont find ownership abhorrent.I was robbed at gunpoint when I was 21 and had cash and some of my tattooing gear stolen.I was confronted by 2 pantihose clad men and told get down on my knees (execution style)Very very scary as I didnt know that it was a robbery at that instant in time.FUCK THAT if I was gunna die it was going to be on my feet and running.I ran, bang bang, they missed.Fuckin idiots mustn't have done any target practice whist wearing hosiery over their heads. LOLTheir both dead now and they both died by the gun. I will add that I had nothing to do with that at all, it was Mr Karma that quickly caught up with those two fools. Hmmm I should go and paste this to the Scary moments thread.Maybe later☮
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RHP User
13 years ago
celebrities who own guns include.....brad pitt, angeline jolie, whoopi goldberg, clint eastwood, donald trump, marc anthonly, johnny depp, eric clapton, christian slater, james earl jones, robert de nero, bruce willis and even tom selleck.... i'm sure that many would agree that not all these people are abhorrent, or even not sexy....no?
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RHP User
13 years ago
thank you to all the reasonable people who while disagreeing with me were not abusive.To the others,if a simple statement that I find gun ownership abhorent elicits such a volatile response what would your response be to me in person, if you were fueled by alcohol and had a gun in your hand I have to wonder. I have actually considered the issue of the necessity for some people to carry firearms,particulary farmers who are forced to kill injured animals and agree it is the most humane way. I think only one person actually said that they found guns sexy,Handmaiden and one who expressed a pleasure in killing animals,OnSafari ,who interestingly is on my friends list . It saddens me that in the Americanisation of our culture drive by shootings,home invasions are becoming more prevalent. And once again, I never said I find the people who own guns abhorent . To all the people who said ''guns dont kill,people kill'',while this is of course true ,there is a huge issue about the access that people have to guns who are not responsible or rational people. To jensman thank you for your kind words to myself and funloving,x R
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RHP User
13 years ago
bad people use them for bad things.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Same here, and to be honest I think the press is pounding on the issue in ignorance and stupidity...and people believe it.Bottom line: If you don't like guns, its fine with me, but please don't try to tell me how I should live my life and what I should or shouldn't do. I don't do that to greenies, don't do that to me or you'll have a problem..plain and simple.Has any one ever wondered how that nice juicy steak gets on your plate? They shoot cows at abattoirs, ya dumb-asses!!! LOL...peace and respect!! Quoting 'Jase01' I'm not calling you a greenie, but I had a greenie in a pub once , telling me how cruel it was to shoot defenceless animals, I then challenged her as to whom has saved more of our native animals that she was trying to protect, her with her opinions or me with the hundreds of foxes and feral cats that I have shot, or how much erosion and land degradation that I have helped slow down by the thousands of rabbits and dozens of feral pigs I have eradicated over the years, not to mention the native flora and fauna they eat, I dont find guns sexy, but there is my point as to why they are needed. I'm not ashamed of being a registered member of the SSAA.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'dte_guy'Has any one ever wondered how that nice juicy steak gets on your plate? They shoot cows at abattoirs, ya dumb-asses!!! LOL...peace and respect!! Not with a gun and bullets, ya dumb-ass! There's more than one way to drive a highly pressurised bolt of metal through the skull of a cat (to paraphrase a popular expression.) Did we learn nothing from No Country For Old Men? ***I find the 'guns are just a tool' and 'guns don't kill people, people kill people' arguments ignorant in the extreme.Sure I can concede there's a place for them in certain parts of society - I wouldn't begrudge anyone living in the country their privilege to use a gun (it ain't a right, thank the Australian constitution!) Rifles and such on shooting ranges are fine, though hold no appeal to me whatsoever. Law enforcement should be armed. But that's about it, I think.Guns, as tools, exist solely for destruction - usually lethal - and they're very effective at it. They are not comparable to cars, or doctors, or whatever other ridiculous comparisons people try to make, because their primary function is to inflict lethal force. The "it's for protection/deterrent" argument would be hilarious if it wasn't so horrifyingly imbecilic, an item of blind ideological faith that lunatics cling to with wide eyes and white knuckles. I have no idea how the US will pull back from their centuries-old madness. I think Howard was a fairly weak Prime Minister, but his efforts to introduce gun control are his most successful legacy, and I'm very grateful for them.Are guns sexy? No, not in real life, not at all. In movies though? Mila Jovovich in Resident Evil would almost make the zombie apocalypse worthwhile...
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boots_69
13 years ago
To answer your first question Freya, do I find guns sexy - far from itDo I find gun ownership abhorrent - No, these are just tools of trade. Like others here I come from an agricultural background and in this sense have used rifles and shot guns as a means of euthanasia, pest control and to provide food for both family (and pets/working animals).I do understand the thrill involved with learning and achieving marksmanship of sporting shooter both skeet and stationary target, but then I do not see this as being different from any other form of arts- martial.Why some people get sexually aroused by these - I don't understand and then maybe don't particularly want to either.Boots
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boots_69
13 years ago
That should have been No and No.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I've never heard of a gun unlocking itself from an approved safe AND loading itself AND aiming itself AND shooting ANYBODY. Being that this post was about something I said somewhere else I feel I should elaborate, just to clarify for those who just don't/didn't get it. the woman in question was turned on by using a handgun, at a firing range, under the instruction of qualified instructors. This topic has gone from an observation from another post, to absolute stupidity. I still stick to the credo that people kill people, not guns, knives or whatever else
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RHP User
13 years ago
This depends on why someone has a gun or rifle, I lived in the country all my life and when I was young it was the only fresh meat we would have as we did not have fridges till I was about 10 when we got our first fridge....I have had rifles from when I was 16 and still have 3 of them but I don't use them much anymore but its my right to own them..If people do not like this its their problem BUT more car kill people in this country than guns do....So do we take car away from everyone because some dick get behind the wheel and kills someone "ER" NONOT everyone with guns or rifles will go out and shoot people, well very few do......
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Torturedcliche' I've never heard of a gun unlocking itself from an approved safe AND loading itself AND aiming itself AND shooting ANYBODY. Being that this post was about something I said somewhere else I feel I should elaborate, just to clarify for those who just don't/didn't get it. the woman in question was turned on by using a handgun, at a firing range, under the instruction of qualified instructors. This topic has gone from an observation from another post, to absolute stupidity. I still stick to the credo that people kill people, not guns, knives or whatever else I get that there are (admittedly few) reasons to have a gun. But this 'it's only how it's used' argument is rubbish. You wouldn't say people should be able to keep strands of the ebola virus, as long as it's safely stored away - that the ebola virus doesn't kill people, only supervillains intent on waging germ warfare by releasing it kill people. As far as I see it it's the same logic. To say nothing of the number of accidents involving guns and children that occur in places like the States where they're so prevalent and unrestricted.Some devices are inherently more dangerous than others. Why try and argue that? Some are dangerous, but are far more useful and versatile than others. A gun is by design a very dangerous thing, again, whose primary function is lethal force. A car is also a dangerous thing, but its danger is a secondary consequence of its myriad other functions. Its danger is an unfortunate by-product, not a design feature.Again, to stress, I do believe lethal force is sometimes necessary in the bush, for the reasons people outlined. I personally don't think recreational shooting is a legitimate use of a gun, but I'm not going to try and take that away from people. Hell, one day I'll probably go to a shooting range and enjoy myself thoroughly. I do however think that guns should be heavily restricted, and we should recognise them for what they are.(Incidentally, I agree that this thread has taken some detours from where it started, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Free flow and evolution of ideas and discussions and all that.)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Free flow and evolution, I agree to a point. And I'll also agree that the original design brief for a firearm was to kill people, warfare and military superiority against opposing nations. That fact can't be argued at all, however as you say yourself, evolution. Why hunt animals with a spear when you can more effectively kill your own meat using a rifle. Less times going hungry and less time spent hunting. Agreed? Nowadays in the instance of people who are legally allowed to carry firearms on a day to day basis, I agree that law enforcement/soldiers, some elements of the security industry and farmers have every right to do so. People who have guns at home for self defense are often too stupid to realize that by the time they open their safe, any legitimate deadly threat which would justify using said firearm would already have killed them, so that's a moot point there is no logic to it. For sporting purposes or as a leisure activity, anyone who is mentally stable and has no criminal record, should theoretically be allowed to own a suitable firearm. People WILL argue that mental stability can change due to alcohol/drugs, relationship breakdown etc, however if someone wants you dead, they will find a way if they don't have a gun. Stabbing, bludgeoning, running someone over, the options are almost limitless. Now for the Ebola thing, obviously that's grossly exaggerated and has no real impact on this discussion.
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luvsilver
13 years ago
Can of worms this one Freya ! I have a few firearms locked away in the safe. Two are in a non useable condition (safety wise) that have been handed down over the generations .I would never part with them as the are a family legacy. The others go to the local range for some paper target punching a few times a year and for vermin control around our property.I am also teaching my sons responsible firearm handling.Some readers may not like the idea but i would rather them learn the correct way at their young age and under my supervision ,rather than turn 18 and go off with their mates and no clues. I understand your dislike of firearms Freya and you are totally justified from your past. The most dissapointing thing is that the issue is more about the degredation of society in general more than guns.I would rather spend the entire day at a range with 40 other firearm carrying people than spend 1 minute sitting in the passenger seat of some car owners that drive on our roads everyday. BTW Freya i do not find firearms sexy. Mr Luvsilver
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'cavey50' I shoot to kill to eat I shoot to humanely put injured animals down I shoot to destroy vermin which kill for pleasure. One of the most difficult things I have ever done was to kill a horse with a knife that had been badly injured by a car - With the woman driver and her two children a total mess... they couldnt drive away, so I made them walk way away to cause them less stress. I have put animals down with hammers, rocks, my utes, sticks, knives and axes... including a pregnant cow just out of Roebourne 12 months ago after she was hit by a truck and left to die. BELIEVE me.. it was a infinitely easier to perform these ugly tasks with a rifle, WHEN it was acceptable for me to carry one when I travelled out bush And soon, I will not be allowed to carry my knife. Come with me on my journey, when I had to assist a hobby farmer kill 26 of his sheep with a sledge hammer after they had been torn to pieces by DOMESTIC dogs - FOR FUN... then sit with me as we both cried. The Pork you eat from the supermarket. The Beef you eat from the supermarket. The Lamb you eat from the supermarket.. Go to your loal abattoir and see how they are killed... for YOUR dining pleasure.. THEN, call my firearm ownership Abhorrent. NOW Call me Abhorrent. JUST don't ever come and visit me please. I would rather live with real people. Disarming our country will not save lives. Those who are going to kill will just get more creative. I have to agree with Cavey. I've cried many times after putting down animals, especially with some of the cruder instruments. I you don't know country, don't judge the people out there feeding us city folk. Most people who work livestock have a pasioate love of all animals, even we are killing ferals, we do so with compassion. Guns make that possible, quick, humane and less personal for us
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