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How Social is Social Noetworking ?
October 12 2012
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RHP User
13 years ago
Oh that is a totally lame reason for not catching up for a meal! Was 'behind in his FBooking' indeed, what a load of bull.I believe social networking is something for those that are time poor, for those who live long-distance away from loved ones, is a good way to organise catch-ups and meetings, and to share things such as photos and so forth. I don't believe in living a life based on social media - if you have so much time to spend online, you certainly have enough time to get out there and make the effort!Now that you've brought up the Jill Meagher case, can someone please explain to me why it is that the man charged is having a trial to determine his innocence when he was the one who led the police to the place where he buried her body? Or is the trial to determine his sentence?
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Mr_DarkChocolate
13 years ago
to be completely honest i find FB pretty damn boring the only reason i have it is because i get a lot of work through it i mean it has it's moments of amusement like for instance seeing horribly embarrassing drunk club pic's of people i don't know always makes me happy getting a rise out of some idiot's when they say something something plain stupid & need a good cyber backhand to the face or even the occasional funny meme that pop's up on my news feed from the random pages i'v like which can get repetitive but on the most part get at least a chuckle, then again i may not be the perfect example for a facebooking teen because i'm not too social on a social site... like i don't bother posting on people's wall's, never have & i don't bother tagging people in pointless photo's, i don't advertise crap on my FB page i like to keep it lighthearted with a joke here or there & maybe my personal opinion on something intellectual but i find **people are stupid** a person may be smart & educated but **people are stupid** & most of it is wasted on deaf, stupid & ignorant ear's so i don't even bother anymorereal life ? haha well i don't have a personal life, i have **NO friends** i mean none whatsoever & i'm pretty happy with it that way, no bitchy lil assholes in my life to whine on about how their life sucks, every single day my life is basically ((changes when i'm overseas & what not))- get up- shower & shave- give the dog a good workout at the park- go to work if i have any for the day- got the gym at 9 pm- come home at 11 & watch a movie- sleep at around 1 to be up at 10 to some it might seem like a pretty boring way of going about things but i understand & accept that success doesn't come if ur out every friday, sat night at a club or a pub wasting ur time ((i'll still do it like once every other month or so )) money & energy on something as pointless as getting laid when u could be at home perfecting ur craft & improving ur skills to better help u at what u do, haha through all of that i find it hard pressed if i even have to say a single word during the day, personally i like to let people who like to talk well... talk because then u can figure out just how full of shit they are while i stay in thought & leave people to figure their own shit out maybe i just never learned how to be friends with someone ? to be honest i always see **people** are hungry, horny, greedy animals until they show me otherwise
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RHP User
13 years ago
Miss V havent you just unloaded !! and i am quite sure a can of worms with it.. LOVE the topic.. Here i am a 40 something person..i work in the media , have done for over 20 years ....I dont have a facebook or twitter account...I think the people who want to know how my day was wil ring me or text me.. At work we use the mediums because it connects to the new gen..It is a neccessity these days and in the future..but it can not be controlled or moderated to filter out properly..this new medium is still being worked out.. And of course people write impulsive things press send and its gone .. At the end of the day , its a great new way to keep in touch etc etc..but i prefer the old way of seeing people or talking with them.. Having sex , eating , driving .....lol
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Mr_DarkChocolate
13 years ago
Quoting 'amuse_bouche' Oh that is a totally lame reason for not catching up for a meal! Was 'behind in his FBooking' indeed, what a load of bull.I believe social networking is something for those that are time poor, for those who live long-distance away from loved ones, is a good way to organise catch-ups and meetings, and to share things such as photos and so forth. I don't believe in living a life based on social media - if you have so much time to spend online, you certainly have enough time to get out there and make the effort!Now that you've brought up the Jill Meagher case, can someone please explain to me why it is that the man charged is having a trial to determine his innocence when he was the one who led the police to the place where he buried her body? Or is the trial to determine his sentence? for any crime there is a trial to rule out any outlining factor's, determine what actually happened & on the rare occasion if the person was in the right frame of mind during the crime to be sentenced properly e.g. he could've had a psychotic episode at the time & may not be held liable for his crimes & set free or on the other end of the spectrum to establish whether this was a premeditated murder or as it just a spur of the moment thing ? all of this shit get's worked out & that determines the length of the sentence & severity of confinement
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RHP User
13 years ago
is that he has been charged with rape and murder and he is in remand until January 18 next year where he will then appear for a committal mention .This is when he will then enter a formal plea of guilty or not guilty of the charges that are against him. Based on his plea is when it will be decided if he goes to trial or not and of course what Mr Chocolate said also comes into play - mitigiating cirucmstances. He (the accused) was informed by the Magistrate that she could not entertain a bail application due to the serious nature of the charges hence why he is remand. and even though he lead police to where this poor girl was buried does not mean he "did the crime" nor acted alone The fear of the Court/Magistrate is due to comments on social media (like FB) that he will not get a fair trial and a unbias jury thereby jeopardising the Police Prosecutors case - should he go to trial. Even though charged it is still alleged that he is guilty of the crime...He is not guilty until he is found guilty by a jury of his peers, .... innocent until proven BEYOND reasonable doubt Correct me someone if I am wrong someone ..:)
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RHP User
13 years ago
decided that I wouldn't have more than 10% ratio of people on my FB that I haven't "Met" in real life. It's a great way to connect, but when people start sending you to 'pages' that hook you up to 'people' that want to be your friend, I start to get overwhelmed.I believe social media has a place. It's definitely helping get the word out on topics that need a voice (charities, emergencies etc) however I agree with you about the risk of justice being put in jeopardy all because the public decided to voice their opinion on an open forum. Unfortunately I think the sheep effect takes place at that point, and people can get a mistrial because the courts don't believe they can get a fair and just trial (Guilty or Not).I do believe there is a place for social media in personal lives, it just depends on how you choose to use it. I have found many long lost friends and relatives through it, and often use it as a forum to complain, or to praise, or to share news to a large amount of people, however there is nothing that will ever replace sitting with someone, looking them in the eye, and sharing stories, news and a drink.... cocktails are much tastier when they're not virtual!Thank you for the post.. I think it's a pandorical topic, but one that will always have a healthy debate/answers from individuals.x
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RHP User
13 years ago
I'm only friends on Facebook with people that I would let sleep on my couch for a month.
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RHP User
13 years ago
In ''The Gutenberg Glalaxy''McLuhan studies the change in conciousness wrought by the advent of the printed book in the 15th century,apropos his axiom'' the medium is the message''.McLuhan argued that technologies are not simply inventions which people employ but are the means by which people are reinvented,He argued that the advent of the printing press led to the rise of nationalism,dualism,automisation of sientific research,uniformation and standardisation of culture and the alienation of individuals.He predicted that the''electifying'' would bring an end to the Gutenberg era. He wrote this in the early 60s,the internet did not exist then.McLuhan talks about the advent of electronic media and how it affects cognitive organisation which inturn has ramifications for sociial organisation. Faebook is a perfect example of the changes that McLuhan predicted,it is a tool for social change and organisation.Facebook is no longer just about catching up with friends ,it provides people wiho may have formerly felt powerless a tool with which to affect change through online petitons and organisation, ''if a new technologiy extends one or more of our senses outside us into the social world,then new ratios amomg all our senses will occur in that particular culture.It is comparable to what happens na new note is added to a melody,and when the sense ratios alter in any culture then what appeared lucid before may suddenly become opaque,and what had been vague or opaque will become translucent''
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RHP User
13 years ago
Can be a very useful tool if its used for its intended purpose. I think though, like all things, the definitions of its intended purpose are and have somewhat been skewed by our own interpretations. The Jill Meagher case, is not going to be affected in my mind as people only talk about what they know from the reporting media. The reporting media only reports what the police/dpp/courts WANT people to know. Or perhaps that should WILL allow?? I think the quicker the laws are changed to exclude social media from being a detrimental cause to ones trial the better. my reasoning for this is simply because society will talk and judge, facebook just puts the conversation accessible to all. I like Facebook personally for the similar reason as chocolatecock, it's got some funny shit, but as deviousm has also said, filtering out those you truly desire to be on there is paramount.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have a nose bleed from constructing that one, so if you'll excuse me... :p
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RHP User
13 years ago
... I'd share a meal with you, just don't ask me to FB ya, I don't have an account (shock/horror). I like RL ...KK xx
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RHP User
13 years ago
Its all smoke and mirrors, people with to much time on their hands. Social networking has its good and bad point more bad than good as its run on bullshit and emotions. What I like about this site is people say all things about themselves, then they forget what the put in other posts. Like ..I have no family then write about their family. Like ... what happen at a meeting with a person , all slanted to make them look god and the other look crap. Like they are in a relationship and you find out that relationship is stalking.We are now our own press agents. News flash on face book: I took dump today, care factor zero! Social networking is a distortion of the truth. Its venting like you said with your friends. People have a crap day and put up that emotion, have a good day put up that emotion , have a shit life so make up one for the benefit of their internet mates. Never able to translate that internet life into a reality , and like that friend re dinner with you. He is clearly caught up in his internet life he cant see the Forrest for the trees, maybe he can eat a cyber dinner at least its not fattening. Fake pictures, fake lives its all smoke and mirrors and its a dangerous tool. There are no borders any more with information, no restraints . We type away and put it out there, all snug as a bug in our house and never mind the damage we can cause to another person. We can become addicted to our alter ego, and shy away from the reality of who we really are. We are cyber goddess, sex on a stick , the movie stars of Rhp or face book yet we are are a mouse that roars at home. Sitting eating our chips with a brikies crack, a ice coffee at our fingertips as the muffin top gets larger. Yet in cyber space We are gods and goddesses. I have face book , only for friendes and family and its set to private and I only invite those who I hope I can trust. Its like inviting a stranger into your house,. Your kids , your life can be at risk , in a flash The media can by stealth change the course of a nation, just quicker these days than the newspapers would do. The up side is, you get laid more often. or you could end up in a relationship with Ted Bundy.
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RHP User
13 years ago
absolute goldFacebook, Twitter, Myspace ..whatever ~boring~ If you got something worth telling me, come see me or pick up the phone. Some people are mad addicts with this shit, yes addicted!!! always got to be in the loop, get a life man. Gossip, drama, bitching and useless information does nothing for me. I'd rather talk about real stuff with real people over a beer and a bbq... however, people are heard in large numbers now, as Freya suggested ...this will definitely have an effect on life as we know it. Good & bad
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have recently been rethinking my personal boycott of FB due to the pleading of one friend in particular and a few family members but after TR and Coodi have written large my main doubts, NUH, got better things to do with my time !( like trolling dating sites ! pmsl)
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RHP User
13 years ago
What a thought provoking post TR - I never thought of people out rite lying on their Facebook page - I guess cause its predominantly aimed at ones friends and family - why would you lie ? - I guess one can say a relative quiet nite out was absolutley fucking awesome... if that so works for you Like you I only have my close friends added and my extended family (my immediate family bar my foster bro are now deceased) so its a nice way for me in keeping up with my nieces, nephews etc who are now scattered around the globe......sometimes this is the only way I can find out what they are doing as they dont seem to big on returning Aunty VB emails... !!! Since putting this forum up yesterday , I have experience the power of this medium...good and bad On Wednesday I attended a funeral of a friend of mine who took her life last Friday week - she was terminally ill and I guess for her this was her only "solution" - she did it whilst her best friend was holidaying in Bali - I know her best friend but only met her a few times, and she gave the most moving eulogy at the funeral. This same best friend since her friends passing, has been subjected to the most disgusting downrite mean, nasty, appalling comments via FB telling her she should have done more for her friend when she was alive and what was she doing vacationing in Bali whilst her friend was obvioulsy going thru mental anguish. WTF ???..My God how low can one go ? - .................this poor girls is not only rocked by losing her bestie but is now being subjected to this kind of intolerable and disgusting behavior.....is this the "social " behind "social networking ?? On the other hand a friend of a friend of a friend...was robbed on Thursday nite -she disturbed the thieves and was able to make out most of the number plate on the getaway vehicle - by circulating her story on FB, the thieves were caught this morning and charged....one advantage of living in a small coastal town in WA The good the bad and the ugly Off subject - cause I just found out my membership expired yesterday but obviously renewal payment has not been processed, so I cant message anyone.. TR - I just ducked in and saw your exhibition - its looks fantastic - you must be so proud KK - Im moving house at the mo over two weekends but when settled we will have that meal ok in RL - I will message you :) PS I no longer have your phone numbers as I dropped my cell in the toilet two weeks (dont ask) , drowning it... and I have a new phone but with no contacts !!!
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avidmale
13 years ago
I.. like you.. Velvet... have been on for ages, pretty much when it first became accessible to my University network... around the same time you joined I presume. As a result of this, i choose to be loyal to it... And because i started off with it, most of the people I am friends with use it as it was like 'back in the day'. Meaning less annoying 'twitter like' updates that tuscan touched on (taking a dump). I dont add randoms, and dont let randoms add me. I use it as a forum for pages and such. Friends that i know will check it, or dont have their phone number. Things that some of us have common interest in. I never post whining updates and get annoyed with friends that do. If someone starts to get annoying, i hide their posts. Or exceedingly annoying or if i get too disconnected with them. I cull them from my friends. SimpleAs for the bloke saying he needs to catch up on his FBing.. purrrleeasee. What a load of crap. That is not an excuse AT ALL. And in my opinion. If thats what hes given you, hes not worth your time anyway.Opinions on 'Social Media'.. and fuck me i hate that term too. Will differ from person to person. Age to age. Those that have lived without it most of our lives will of course be sceptical. But if it remains as prominent as it is, it will be taken far more seriously. As it if was written down on a piece of paper or said face to face. Because right now people can get away with talking shit, which youve mentioned. Just think.. in a decade people in their 20's would never have known anything else besides facebook communication and texts.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Hi! MsVelvetBlue Thanks for your interesting Topic:) Firstly Hun for security reasons and convenience. I'd leave them as seperate accounts. My Personal Experience has been 1 of someone trying to hack into My acct. from Melbourne ..To utter boredom seeing My Contacts and dribble from others they are chatting to.Not just an overview but every frigin word.I can go to their page if I want to see that crap and it won't be clogging my page making me have to wade thro; it to get to MSGs for me . Plus the games requests Geez no wonder I closed it recently with no regrets.. I think it's absolutely appauling how Networking has gone..When Parents find out about their Childs Death on FB how insensitive is that..The Trolling Bullying that goes on pushing some victims to suiside.. Maybe the only redeeming quality is when the Police etc use it to catch People pretending to be young to lure younger Member in to harm them.. However to those who can't live without FB etc please continue to enjoy as I said this is My experience My view only ..Cheers Lu :) PS Personally I'd use Skype any day to catch up with Family and Friends so much more Personal and we can chat face to face..
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