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Has anyone arranged for a guy to seduce the wife without her knowing?
July 04 2017
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RHP User
9 years ago
what you ask for fella ..
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RHP User
9 years ago
... with the above statement. Cause either: a) If your (without her knowledge) plan is sprung, the wife could be furious, lose all trust; orb) Essentially, she's cheating. Sounds messy.
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
And without her knowledge......just No! if it were me, I'd loose my shit. Just saying.😊 Ask first or else she may just cut your dick off. 😇 Ms Foxy
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DynamicCouple36
9 years ago
And it's morally wrong and certainly not a hot thing to do at all. And really not fair on ones wife. - Posted from rhpmobile
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DynamicCouple36
9 years ago
You are happily married and been together for a while. You severely arrange for someone to seduce your wife? For what purpose ? Your enjoyment ? And what about the guilt she may feel afterwards? And it's all a game on your part? Not nice at all. Just our opinion on the matter. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
I Am staying out of this one!
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RHP User
9 years ago
Is this her fantasy? Something she has asked you to do?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Without her consent it could end up being interpreted as sexual assault ..Talk to her about this fantasy ,perhaps she will be really into it,but ATM it's just your fantasy it seems.Q
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RHP User
9 years ago
This would be a total disaster unless it was a previously discussed role play with a list of dos and donts from me. In essence it could work if Mr LAL and I were on the same page.... guy would have to be someone I know and am attracted to... and who already had my limits known. ..... it would really just be an event that I knew was going to take place and we would all be having a role play session. If a strange guy came up and tried to seduce me spontaneously I'd just run for the hills 😂 Mrs LAL - Posted from rhpmobile
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DynamicCouple36
9 years ago
Severely should read secretly . Darn auto corrrect - Posted from rhpmobile
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Sawadee
9 years ago
He said it was just a feeler. I didn't have to think about it too long, it was a no from me.. Knowing them both just didn't feel right. It's like walking into the valley of death . She might love it , but then again she might not. More likely the latter.. If she knew and was happy to run with it , that's different.. But not knowing ? Umm no ? Dont open the can of worms if you don't need to...
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225Special
9 years ago
Agree with above answers, also, what happens if it all went well, she didn't find out it was a setup so she really got the taste for playing with someone else without your knowledge. To add to this, you found it to be not the turn on you thought it would be and the little green monster reared his head. One Pandora's box opened. Mr 225
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RHP User
9 years ago
Had a double ,mr arranged a massage for her with him present and was role play that I was out the paper to relax and ease her body.It ended up getting a bit steamy and afterwards went my way without a wood said.But be careful and chat before you dip your toes in.
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boobsandbusted
9 years ago
So much wrong with it ,But fantastic way to start endless arguments and hostility for the rest of your relationship,well that's my thoughts anyway Mr b - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
I have received a few messages from blokes asking this, my first response is always ''does she know this is what you want and, more importantly, does she want it?". The answers are always, without fail, either ''she says she doesn't but I reckon she'll come around'' or, more usually, ''haven't run it by her yet but I reckon she's up for it''. Yeah right, mate - on your bike. If either of those scenarios is you, then you are most likely looking for trouble. There are probably more than a few blokes out there would be all too willing to help you find that trouble, but he gets to walk away if and (more likely) when it all goes pear-shaped. You, on the other hand...
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Qefenta1' Without her consent it could end up being interpreted as sexual assault ..Talk to her about this fantasy ,perhaps she will be really into it,but ATM it's just your fantasy it seems.Q How could it be sexual assault? He said seduction, not rape fantasy - she's still consenting to fuck the guy. I think OP's idea is terrible.
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MsJonesy
9 years ago
You personally may find the fantasy a turn on, but in reality it is more than likely going to end badly.
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Have2befun
9 years ago
Best to communicate with her first. We havn't done this and don't know if it would happen. As a instance we attended a swingers club years a go, was just to see what went on. Anyway i was watching a group in one room, a little down the hall from a room my wife had her eyes in. Id noticed a guy near her but did not think anything of it. (Possibly because I was too distracted with what was going on in the room i was looking in) Anyway after awhile I ended up returning to her, the guy walked away. Wife says did i see him putting his hand into her top and caressing her boobs, now she was quite excited about it and did not object and tell the guy to stop. I know my wife very well, ive seen guys try hitting on her without her knowing im aware, she always rejects their advances. We have not had a experience as yet with another, though shes now very curious on female female interaction after a female tongue pashed her in the ladies at a club, she was so excited about that. I have said to her what would she do if someone tried to seduce or fondle her, and she just smiles. With her id think, she would require a attraction and the person would need to be switched on to her mood and not appear threatening. Make her laugh and feel special. The hard part is your partner don't know what to say in case it offends you, so you need to have her open up to you. Just need to communicate, take your time and make sure you get all the signs and communication right. Maybe start off with something very soft as a test run. The surprise of it all raises the excitement, and its her consent in the end. Her knowing your ok with it is very important. As everyone else is saying, just make sure your ok with what evenuates, make sure your relationship is secure.
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
Q did say..(quote) "it could" end up being "interpreted" as..." Did you not read that bit, in her post?? 😕 * seduce meaning: entice (someone) into sexual activity. Without consent from partner, or no verbal agreement from her. Yes, "it can be interpreted" as a violation (rape) removal of her choices. Sexual or not. It is a disgusting act (by both men) and shows little respect towards his partner. It is far from a "hot" thing to do for a partner or anyone. 😠 Ms Foxy
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Have2befun
9 years ago
You also need to be accepting of those females who would like to have this attention from a stranger, who are secure with their man, some woman love the feeling of being chased and flirted with, especially when they have been in a long term relationship, a way to learn new things and spice up their relationships. Like people are here to swing and do all sorts of sexual activities. Some men act like they own their women and do not care for what the woman wants, they care for what they want. Some women don't communicate with their men and become bored and thats when they forfill their fantasy's behind their partners backs and vise versa. Key is communication. Learn what your partner really wants, it must work both ways with respect, she or he will love you for making them happy.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' Q did say..(quote) "it could" end up being "interpreted" as..." Did you not read that bit, in her post?? 😕 * seduce meaning: entice (someone) into sexual activity. Without consent from partner, or no verbal agreement from her. Yes, "it can be interpreted" as a violation (rape) removal of her choices. Sexual or not. It is a disgusting act (by both men) and shows little respect towards his partner. It is far from a "hot" thing to do for a partner or anyone. 😠 and I said how _could_ it be interpreted as such. A reasonable interpretation, not just declaring something is so. If I said to Cavey "hey, I dare you to go hit on Foxxxy for a fiver" that isn't rape. If you said "hey, lets fuck", that also isn't rape, even if you don't know that I dared the cheeky bugger to go do it. By this definition of rape as mere 'removal of choice', you get raped every time person you don't want to approach you approaches, and I got raped on the telephone recently by a lady trying to force her energy (saving options) upon me. The choice is still hers as to how she wants to progress with the actors seduction. The OP isn't talking about rape fantasies, he isn't saying "so, do you think it'd be hot if I hire a guy to bundle my unsuspecting wife into a panel van, have his way with her then leave her by the roadside".
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Have2befun
9 years ago
On that presumption, My wife planned with a friend to give me a surprise hj behind her friends partners back, (was the friend pestering my wife to let her do so). At that point, been married like 15 plus years, never any outside sexual activity. Im sitting on lounge watching footy, the male friend heads off to his room (unknown to me for a joint) Next thing the female friend sits beside me, my wife standing in position to view down hallway. They are signaling to each other, im thinking wtf are they up to. Next thing the female friend shoves her hand into my pants and before i could even say wtf, has my member in her mouth. Im like do i push her away, no it feels so hot and the surprise is one of the best I've ever experienced. Did i get raped? Or was it all ok as I consented and allowed it? Wife was involved in it, so she consented? Could this not be ok vise versa?
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RHP User
8 years ago
I'll hit on Foxxy for a fiver mate... I can handle a "Fuck off dickhead" from her...5 bucks IS 5 bucks after all
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RHP User
8 years ago
Like many men would have a shred of a chance of success anyway! :p At least, when both parties have some knowledge, the other person will have a chance of a look in or conversation at the least. How about, tell her your idea, if she's OK with the concept and willing, but leave the who, where and when as a surprise for her to anticipate? How often would your partner get "hit on" when out on the town in general? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
No! That's disturbing that you even posted this. My god, talk about a disgusting predator. I can't even say "unless it's a fantasy of hers, and you've discussed it and she has given the ok", because you specifically say "WITHOUT HER KNOWING". Seriously, NO. That is just fucked up. 😳😡 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Seriously massive double standards here.Male OP is asking if anyone has organised someone to seduce their wife and is getting torn a new one - Thats it - just talking to her in the hopes she may be swayedyetOn another thread, "Female" OP is asking how to arrange for another woman to organise a "Surprise" threesome for her blokes birthday, that is - actually surprising him with another lady in the bedroom - and she is getting all sorts of advice. So it seems that, if you are a guy on this site, and trying to arrange a fairly overt threesome for your partner - you're an asshat But if you're a woman trying to arrange a covert threesome for your man - you're the coolest 10 years ago, these forums were a place where like minded people helped eachother and guided, now we have keyboard warriors preferring to judge!
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RHP User
8 years ago
Yes the question was asked about a guy having their partner seduced and I must say I have heard this fantasy before by both men & women. However the guy asked what arrangements took place. This is the heart of the question.This is the place to raise themes around communication and joint understanding of each others fantasies in a relationship and if you wanted to have your partner seduced & they wanted to be seduced, discuss how this would look.
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RHP User
8 years ago
If someone is curious or asks a question they get judged harshly. Wow! Some folks have a hisotry for not reading the forum subject and going off like pork chops! I am staying out of this one peeps!
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RHP User
8 years ago
I don't think organizing a surprise threesome for your partner and arranging for someone to seduce your partner without their knowledge is the same thing. I don't believe he is saying this would be a threesome situation? At least, that is now what most of the respondents have assumed from the info provided in his question, hence the strong responses. if you are in the scene and have an open relationship already, then I say go for it. It might be a bit of fun. If you are not in an open relatioship and have a traditional relationship which appears to be the case for Jl_1303 given all the Ask ME's on his profile, then it is more like entrapment. Most people go through a lot of guilt and angst before they "cheat" on their partner. So the question is, what does the OP find so hot about it? THe fact that the wife has slept with someone else and he knows - but she doesn't know he knows? Does he intend to fess up straight after the fact that he arranged it? Obviously, in this situation a lot depends on the type of relationship the two people have. A vanilla person, I would imagine, would totally freak out if they found out their partner had done that to them. Wouldn't you?
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RHP User
8 years ago
Just no. Can't imagine many women who enjoy being preyed upon like that. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
why the hell do ppl run down and make fun of ppls posts , IF YOU DONT LIKE THE SUBJECT, and got nothing of value or reference to the subject in discussion, mind yor manners and respect the question , tooo much leniency on here, moderators , hey , step up , bullies should be eradicated , just my view , whats yours
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RHP User
8 years ago
but I fail to understand how this could be viewed as disgusting and disrespectful, worse non consentual. There was no mention of no consent. Seduce is very different, and how is it any different from normal seduction? Attached people get hit on too 😇 It's only disrespectful if the people themselves consider it to be, otherwise not for anyone else to say, seems like a wild assumption every woman is going to feel disrespected. So just to highlight that, place me as the wife here, do you think I would feel disrespected? 😉
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RHP User
8 years ago
We were meeting a couple for drinks and we didn't know he hadn't been honest with his wife she had no idea what was going on we left out of respect for her and we couldn't believe how insensitive her husband was to her and us. The poor thing didn't have any idea There are quite a few guys on here that post as a couple and chat away swap pics then ask us to help them convince his wife??? It's about communication and openness Wanting it to happen in your mind isn't enough
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RHP User
8 years ago
Quoting 'CandyDelicious' I don't think organizing a surprise threesome for your partner and arranging for someone to seduce your partner without their knowledge is the same thing. I don't believe he is saying this would be a threesome situation? At least, that is now what most of the respondents have assumed from the info provided in his question, hence the strong responses. if you are in the scene and have an open relationship already, then I say go for it. It might be a bit of fun. If you are not in an open relatioship and have a traditional relationship which appears to be the case for Jl_1303 given all the Ask ME's on his profile, then it is more like entrapment. Most people go through a lot of guilt and angst before they "cheat" on their partner. So the question is, what does the OP find so hot about it? THe fact that the wife has slept with someone else and he knows - but she doesn't know he knows? Does he intend to fess up straight after the fact that he arranged it? Obviously, in this situation a lot depends on the type of relationship the two people have. A vanilla person, I would imagine, would totally freak out if they found out their partner had done that to them. Wouldn't you? I agree, i don't think its the same at all -So by your definition, it would be much better if he just organises a surprise threesome with another guy involved?
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mrsrealistic
8 years ago
silly question pkd - but isnt that cheating on your mate ??
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Have2befun
8 years ago
How is having someone try to seduce your partner not the same as a surprise threesome? Oh btw, heeeeerrrrrre's Johnny Its still without her knowledge, she still has her choice to say no.
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RHP User
8 years ago
If my male partner did this to me I would not like it. He wouldn't do it though as he knows my feelings and is very respectful. Only time it is acceptable is if she has mentioned it as a fantasy twice Just my thoughts
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RHP User
8 years ago
Some heated opinions in here and dare I say judgements. It all depends how you go about it. What if it's someone she knows and someone she's hot for? Hard to come by. May be a surprise in the making for years down the track. Be prepared to be in the doghouse if she's not feeling it that night or doesn't like the surprise. She has options and can politely decline. When I was single at a party, I told my (now) bf that I didn't want to ever try a DP and DVP but he knew I would love it. I was tipsy and he secretly organised it for me... he watched my reactions the whole time. Back then it was hot and I don't regret it at all but then that other single guy contacted me, so that's something married couples wouldn't have to worry about! Make sure your wife wants that guy too though... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Now I have stopped going to parties, focussing on a monogamous relationship. If the surprise 3some or swinging happened now without my knowledge, I would definitely flip out because we are not swinging nor is he allowed to attend parties. He's already done that and we hit rock bottom. So I wouldn't say no. I just need lots of time for it all to sink in and also get over how he introduced me to the swing scene. For me the sex with just him is plenty and I want to be enough for him too. I don't need to look elsewhere but inside myself. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
My girl would love this. - Posted from rhpmobile
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FunseekersAgain
8 years ago
I think this fantasy would be better played out in a swingers club or party with no preparation. Just tell her how amazing she looks, step back and give her a bit of space to explore...but you might not like it, because you might find she is a bit more awesome than even you thought. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
a real partner that architects this very well..... not just an omosexual man without a partner just trying to scam boys to get their pics... right??? and what if she likes it.... once done... will her do it again??? could be another hubby's trick... who knows???? lol
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SallyDD
8 years ago
Sounds great to me.. 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
I wish!!! 😈😈😈😈 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
I think I would be running for the hills. Or think it was cheating if I went through with it. Mrs D - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
What if the guy has asked another woman to seduce the wife.....?
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RHP User
8 years ago
Not cool at all. Word to the wise, if you go looking for trouble you will eventually find it.
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RHP User
8 years ago
The devil is in the detail in this one. Seems a lot could go wrong for all 3 involved. But if all 3 people have consented to this, I don't see the problem with it. I have a fantasy that is slightly in this realm, where a trusted partner brings in a unknown third to a scene. Seems a hell of a lot of communication, details, and trust is needed here.
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RHP User
8 years ago
We have talked about me organising for another guy to cum fuck her but would be one that we had previously played with but her not knowing which one!!! Or when!!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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jualfun
8 years ago
Sorry I would have to have a say or no play.😉
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RHP User
8 years ago
Well depending on the seducer it would probably be a hot steamy date :) We are swingers after all :) I wouldn't mind that at all :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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Sawadee
8 years ago
And if organised the right way , the wife , girlfriend , lover , would love a fresh exciting fuck, just as any man would. But is it really that easy ? In my own personal life , I'm such a fussy bugga , it could mean days , weeks or even months to find the right lady Id want to fuck. ? But then again , I'm only 1 type of person that thinks that way , but therein lays the problem... We are all different.. Don't cut your nose off despite your face... Good luck...
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RHP User
8 years ago
One night while talking dirty to my wife she told me that she found this guy our office party very sexy. She didn't know that I this guy and I were good friends and shared stories and pics of each other's wives and gfs. I encouraged my wife to tell me more about her fantasy and she shared her dirty fantasies I undressed her and we had hot sex that night. Few days later at a party my wife got dresses sexy as she knew this guy was going to be there, again, what she did not know was that I had told him about the night she told me about him and asked him to approach her. At the party I intentionally got occupied with other guys and my friend started talking to my wife. I could tell she had sex on her mind but pretended to be normal. When she looked at me I sent her text reminding her of her fantasy and said that he too must be dreaming of fucking her. She laughed and continued the chat while I got drunk and made them both think that I wasn't watching. Few mins later when I looked for them they had disappeared. They locked themselves inside the bedroom and in no time my friend was inside my wife and both were fucking wild. My wife even told him that she had fantasized about him and that she wanted him to fuck her in all possible he wanted. After they were finished they relaxed a bit started to dress up, then I texted my wife that I knew what she was doing and I was happy or her. I said she could stay with him as long as she wanted. My wife put the phone aside and pulled his pants down and they were at it again ;)
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