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Feminists .. the root of all evil ??

March 24 2013

I read this tale posted on another site and decided to share it here, its quite an interesting point of view." To you Hateful FeministsNo, it isn't okay that women are called sluts when they have active sex lives. It also isn't okay that men are called perverts, players, man-whores, he-sluts and are referred to a knuckle dragging neanderthals when they TOO want to express their sexuality freely. It is okay that a woman wears a skimpy outfit in public and I wouldn't complain if she wore nothing at all. If a man is attracted to her sexually he shouldn't be demonized. If he whistles and yells he just wants to be noticed by a mate he is drooling over. we are really inconsiderate about male sexual feelings. Look, I think most men get the idea here, they think about sex a lot more than women do. That being, they think about ACTUALLY HAVING SEX more than women do and women seem to express their sexuality differently. That being said, just because men have different needs doesn't make them any less human or their needs any less important. If you call yourself sex positive then it has to work both ways. A man's right to flirt is as important as a woman's. A man's right to be naked is just as important as a woman's. A man's right to pursue sex partners is just as acceptable as a woman's. When a man flirts with a woman before ever being turned down, he isn't sexually harassing her. If he says something lewd, isn't that still his freedom of speech? Even if it offends someone? Isn't everyone offended by different things? Could we ever make everyone happy by silencing one word or gesture at a time?How can you harass without persisting? The whole concept of harassment is continuous badgering, nagging, annoying even. It isn't the first time a guy even so much as grabs his crotch suggestively and winks. Yeah, that's a huge offensive gesture but it certainly isn't harassment if it only happened one time. When was the last time you saw a woman get sued for grabbing her own breasts and shaking them around ala girls gone wild? When was the last time you heard of that lawsuit from one occurrence? If it happened once or twice, it was probably either by some money crazed opportunist or a vengeful misogynist. Men aren't degrading women by checking them out, looking at porn, going to strip clubs, or simply having sex with multiple partners. Men are sexually reproducing human beings and that's just a gender specific urge that comes natural to more men than women. Women largely have an ability to exploit large sums of money and even power from sexuality, a power few men have. There is nothing degrading about that whatsoever, but first we have to agree that sex isn't degrading, it is part of the human experience. The feminists push the rape hysteria on and on, but really, the hysteria is false. It is false because feminists need high false rape statistics to have a seemingly invincible movement and lots of power over society as victims. Unfortunately it leads a lot of women to hate men, be afraid of them, which is very unnatural. A woman should be empowered with the truth that we are all partners and while there are indeed crazies out there women aren't all about to be raped at any given second. So let's fight for women to have the ability to not be ashamed of their sexuality. Let's fight for women to have the ability to not be ashamed of how they dress when they want to dress less than modest. If we do that though, at least have the courtesy not to make the other half of the human species look like violent rapist cavemen who by their very existence are out to harm all women. Talk about degrading, it is rather blatant. Let's all fight to live and let live."

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Paradisepair

13 years ago

Opinion pieces which pigeonhole feminists as hateful. The women's rights movement started because there was genuine inequality. Even in the early 70s women weren't allowed to drink in pubs with the men in Australia. It was called the Women's Liberation movement, and it is the reason that I and other women are sexually and socially free in our modern society. I am a feminist and I am not a hater. All the other feminists I know are not haters either, but there are a slew of women hating websites out there. Probably where this one originated. It irks me that many women feel that they cannot label themselves as feminists because they think it's a dirty word, or they think it describes a man hating mentality. Well it doesn't - feminism is about equality and fairness. As a liberated feminist I love men, the thoughtful, kind ones anyway, and I only hate bigotry and ignorance, although I have tolerance for those who are only ignorant through lack of opportunities to experience other alternatives. Feminism and other liberation movements (gay rights, race etc) will continue to necessary in our society until discrimination is fully erased. With glass ceilings and pay inequality still in existence, as well as brainwashing in the media of our young girls there is still a need for women and men to label themselves as feminists. As for rape hysteria, that's probably the most offensive paragraph I've read in ages given the situation in India and the recent outrage in the US over the boys who fucked with that poor drunk girl at the party, and how it's supposedly ruined their lives. Anyway I am the thinking man's slut, I am educated, intelligent, motivated, socially engaged and completely sexually liberated. And I am a proud feminist. I am not alone, and I know many wonderful men who hold the same values.

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RHP User

13 years ago

But did have to say Ms Paradise that is a fabulous reply. Mr C

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RHP User

13 years ago

I love your reply, but I also noticed that the OP's copied letter is to "Hateful Feminists"! There is nothing wrong with being a Feminist at all...all power to you..but as you also stated on your profile you have the handful (as you do with any group) that is more vocal and much more nastier..I guess that is why they get more attention? . What do you call a female that calls another females names because she went against this imaginary "Sisterhood" in here? Those are the ones I can't stand...When they attack they attack another womans sexuality and always bring it back to "He must have a big cock for you to go against the "Sisterhood"! I am sure the good Feminists (I hate the words good/bad..but just saying this to make a point) are not like that at all! , As for the rape part...I understood where the Author was coming from! Do you know how many women are making false claims of rape each day in the World? How many men are doing time over a girl screaming rape after a session which was consented between both adults? Do you know how many men are raped a day and end up with horrific injuries by women? No, because noone fights for these people or against them (the wolf criers)...and that is sad! xFunlovingx

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RHP User

13 years ago

I am not a feministI am a woman withdignityintegrity&respectI do not believe in equality between men and womenWe can never be equal because the fact IS we are different; fundementally opposite in natureyin and yang2 pieces of a puzzleattracted to connectionwe compliment each otherits time to stop fighting each otherI do not fight for a 'right' to be, this is not in my natureI get on with being a womanAnd as for those men .... *MissCassandra sighs and daydreams*P.s OP ... I am wondering what your opinion may be and your purpose of post? ... I love the fact you did by the wayI love this topic in soooo many ways

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RHP User

13 years ago

If a man is a good looking hunk, he gets away with it most times. Some ugly fucker in the workplace and he is in deep shit. Charming articulate hot men get a way with murder. Rape issues are not about sex at all, that is only about power. Just check out your average war zone where women loose all power and the stats go right up. As for men in prison for false rape, yes it does happen but in my experience(working in prisons) its very very rare. Same for women assaulting men that does happen but not often, or it goes like a lot of assaults unreported. Rape of men is usually by other men. Women have every right to be angry and so do men if they are not treated in a fair way, especially at work. I am glad the feminist movement has made it a better work place for my daughters, as has the work safe measures made it safer for men and women. A man can be a cave man and still control himself. The alpha dog does not have to howl at women when they walk past. Just a nod and a wink should do it. A guy does not have to grab my boobs in public, and that has happened to me a shit load of times , as much as I like my boobs grabbed I don’t fucking know that stranger in the street, nor do I appreciate my boss doing it. I love men, but I love myself and my desires to be who I am without someone thinking just because I love sex and am a sexual woman that it means ANY man can do to me as he pleases. I do not put men down so I hope I get the same respect, that’s no feminism that’s just being considerate.

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Playful2looking

13 years ago

Oh dear I am a man and I agree with Paradisespair oh and Tuscanred on this issue. Guys need to be a little more refined in how they gawk at women. Iam in total agreement for equal rights; but i am still waiting for the ladies to pinch me on the bottom in a bar and offer to buy me a drink. and stare at my bulge in my t ight Levi Jeans. I mean I Dolled myself up and bugger no sexual harrasment Dam. Its a strange that both these ladies are over forty I guess it takes women a lot longer to mature when it come to understanding the male.

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RHP User

13 years ago

Well said Mrs Paradise. Very well said. Cassandra J who said we want to be equal. That's ridiculous! Women are heaps better! Just joking. However all people are different with various capabilities and strengths and skills and each person should be judged based on that regardless of their sex. That is feminism ... They are not asking to be equal just that we get the same chances and opportunities as men without bias. Totally fair enough. :)

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RHP User

13 years ago

The person who wrote that comment is talking about the extremists. And some men like to play the victim. I understand it can be a bit confusing for men as they just don't understand strong women. I said some!! :D

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RHP User

13 years ago

now with all this comments I will get ripped apart by females what I said. Ohh noo

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RHP User

13 years ago

Quoting 'Meeka100' Well said Mrs Paradise. Very well said. ... They are not asking to be equal just that we get the same chances and opportunities as men without bias. Totally fair enough. :):) ... equity.The chances and opportunities are there ... we women make them happen. That's been the confusion.

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RHP User

13 years ago

Opportunities were not always there. It's thanks to strong women and feminists that you can even make that statement and say that you are happy just being a women. Seems you don't give those brave women in years gone by enough credit.

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RHP User

13 years ago

Quoting 'Cassandra_Jayne' Quoting 'Meeka100' Well said Mrs Paradise. Very well said. ... They are not asking to be equal just that we get the same chances and opportunities as men without bias. Totally fair enough. :):) ... equity.The chances and opportunities are there ... we women make them happen. That's been the confusion. From the women I have spoken to and have known in high positions and posts, they all have said to me that the thing that really pulls them back most of the time is other women.Being intelligent strong and articulate women they generally handle with ease dick-head men who are sexist pigs in the work place. I'm hoping Meeka that you meant 'some' men in relation to understanding strong women in your last post :) I agree fully with your comment on how some men will play the victim, you will find generally in today's world that other men see them for what they really are.

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RHP User

13 years ago

Quoting 'Meeka100' Opportunities were not always there. It's thanks to strong women and feminists that you can even make that statement and say that you are happy just being a women. Seems you don't give those brave women in years gone by enough credit. Yes they were and these women found them!!!I am aware and do not ever dis-regerd the past or dis-respect the women that have modelled the strength, love and beauty I admire.one example ... her story is fucking awesome, powerful and braveIrena SendlerDied: May 12, 2008 (aged 98)Warsaw, PolandDon't get me wrongIt is the women from the beginning of time that's paved the way for all of us

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13 years ago

Quoting 'Meeka100' Opportunities were not always there. It's thanks to strong women and feminists that you can even make that statement and say that you are happy just being a women. Seems you don't give those brave women in years gone by enough credit. Yes they were and these women found them!!!I am aware and do not ever dis-regerd the past or dis-respect the women that have modelled the strength, love and beauty I admire.one example ... her story is fucking awesome, powerful and braveIrena SendlerDied: May 12, 2008 (aged 98)Warsaw, PolandDon't get me wrongIt is the women from the beginning of time that's paved the way for all of us

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RHP User

13 years ago

Sexual harassment is unwanted conduct of a sexual nature. It can include one off occurrences. Whether the conduct is "unwanted" is determined by asking whether it was reasonably foreseeable that the "victim" would be hurt, offended, belittled, humiliated etc. For most men and women it is reasonably simple to predict what is and isn't acceptable conduct. For a person such as the author of the rant above, who seems to cling a little too tightly to prescribed gender roles and "feminist" conspiracy theories, I'm guessing its a bit more difficult and that's why he's so bitter.

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RHP User

13 years ago

The post, I simply can't get my head around it. Points made out of nothing supported by thin air. I googled the first sentence and found a page it is posted on. It's curious that while the page is titled Humanists United Against Feminists, it seems to be all about the unfair deal men cop rather than any sense of true equality.

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RHP User

13 years ago

This topic somehow posted twice, maybe the mods would like to combine the two??

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RHP User

13 years ago

Quoting 'Awesome71' This topic somehow posted twice, maybe the mods would like to combine the two??

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RHP User

13 years ago

My views on feminism are reasonably well known, and when I start writing about the subject (one of my favourites) I tend to go on for pages. I'm currently fairly hungover and have the mental faculties of a damp tea towel.For now I'll just say that feminists are some of the bravest and smartest people in the world, and my favourite kind. I very much consider myself one, and am proud of my beliefs.I realise the subject is trying to be provocative, but the whole "root of all evil" question is so beyond hyperbolic absurdity I don't know where to begin.

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RHP User

13 years ago

There was an amazingly insightful post recently on the feminist blog The News With Nipples. It was a critique of the use of the passive voice and victim-blaming techniques in the reporting of a recent gang rape in North-West Sydney.Do a Google search for "Warped reporting at Sydney Morning Herald and Daily Telegraph", and throw in "News With Nipples" if you can't find it.

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