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Feed the poor
February 24 2014
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RHP User
12 years ago
Ok Coops I have no reason to doubt you are the above even though every day people are fleeced by smooth talking criminals. The thing is there are many organisations in the community to help....and every person has the capability and compassion to help in whatever way they desire. I myself have volunteered for quite a few organisations and I remember the time I won $10,000.00 worth of a certain product that I had to donate to the community....I found a great organisation and my donation was spread through quite a few schools......I refused to engage in the pomp and ceremony that went along with the donation and the mayor did it for me and then presented me with a plaque after. We all (hopefully) give in whatever way we can..be it the purchase of a pen on daffodil day or a raffle ticket in the surf life saving club etc. You should do whatever you feel is right for you....but dont feel disparaged if people dont trust their dollars with you.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Personally, I have no doubt that I will get support from the industry I am in... I am the state manager of a large manufacturing company and came up through sales.... I have also been in charge of sponsorship money with football clubs.. Get business on board is my main plan of attack and my specialty, as I want this to be sustainable... But as I am on this site daily.... I thought I would ask the question and see if any one would actually do it. - Posted from rhpmobile
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
It's not about if people would trust you or not? It's sounds like a great deed and it's a good trait to have by volunteering, however sometimes when people volunteering and it gives them that "good deed" buzz it makes them want to do more, cause it such a great feeling to help/support people. Not everyone is going to agree or want to support your idea Coops. What you are asking and wanting to do, Sorry I personally wouldn't give large donations to any organization, on the basis that some people choose to live homeless and others don't. However for me, I look after myself and family first. We can't look after everyone, nor save every single person Coops. We can't "rescue" everyone! I've been to very poor countries and the way the homeless live here is nothing compared to how they live there. Some of the people I saw where happy, smiled a lot!! :) However, there are some great people out there. Just yesterday I came home with a great big box of goodies from work (people who donated) items for my daughter to take to India with her. These included balloons, yo-yo's crayons etc etc. Who would've thought such a small item like a balloons could bring such joy to child and to know they have never seen balloons in their life?? Best of luck with it all Coops. Foxy
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Coops my only child who is 17, is going to Volunteer (teaching) for 6mths in India in a small remote school. Leaves in two nights.. I believe for me as a parent, supporting her to do this is going to teach her valuable life skills, an experience of a life time. Make her appreciate cultures, to understand how others live and what better way to do this by volunteering. It's cost me a lot of things...emotionally and has taken it's toll on me, but in the long run it's about her and role-modeling that helping/supporting people is a good deed. Do you take you children along with you when you volunteer?? I just ask, cause role-modeling to them, how people live and what what others do to help has to be one the best feelings in the world as a parent. Sometimes instead of volunteering it can be about paying it forward, teaching others that volunteering is a great thing to do, especially your own children. Sorry gone slightly off subject/Topic, hope you can see where I am coming from with the example above. Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
I think this is the wrong forum here in terms of asking for donations. I wouldn't trust it and I'm an advocate for helping others. I make regular donations here in Brisbane for the homeless and underprivelaged. I collect food and toiletries, clothing and at Easter I have an easter egg drive. I make requests to support our greater community, within my community. It's difficult to keep up the volume of donation. I ask family, friends, work collegues. I even live in a small unit complex and pop flyers in the neighbours letterboxes asking that donations be left at my front door. Money however is something I never ask for, people like to see what they are donating and honestly, I'd never give money myself, when i can buy boxes of food. I've found by asking people to buy one extra item of groceries each week really works, after all a tube of toothpaste is only $3 and you don't notice giving it. - Posted from rhpmobile
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gazpacho
12 years ago
Coops I get a phone call every day or two from someone raising funds for a worthy charity. It's overwhelming.... and I'm not a wealthy man, I just work at home in my very very small business. I am so glad that you're inspired to give of your time. Seeing people smile is uplifting and I hope you continue to enjoy the responses you get. Hugs Gazpacho
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Lovinit28andKC72
12 years ago
I donate to 2 of my favourite charities very month (comes straight out of my bank) without fail and I have done for the past 5 years.... I've been on that side before and if it wasn't for the kindhearted, selfless people doing fantastic work, I'm not sure where my kids and I would be now..... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
got very expensive.I am single, paying for my mortgage and just make it every week, with paying for food ,electricity, water, gas, insurances and maybe Dr bills. The only sector which are earning big dollars are the people in Mining or related to these industries, other people just not earning the big bugs.I stopped watering my lawn because water got so expensive.....Watercorp and I cant change to Aqwest charges nearly double to supply water. You pay the same on all utilities as when you are two people with two incomes. Maybe we should share our homes.I just say to keep your head over water is not easy anymore in Australia when you earn a "normal wage"
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RHP User
12 years ago
And I've worked with and volunteered with not for profits, NGOs etc. I have a strong view that too much goes to waste in the way organisations operate AND by new people coming on the scene trying to set up their own service. I believe strongly in service. I also below strongly in collaboration, connection, efficiency and being financially responsible. Your passion is wonderful Coops. My burning question is how could you channel it to help organisations already dojng the work, without adding to administrative costs for all. That might be your plan and I might have just missed it. If not, food for thought perhaps. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
It's good to be kind hearted. Just wondering though, what are you going to be doing differently to the other gazillion charities out there? There are plenty of organisations that deal with this as well and I prefer then as there is structure there and they are well established. Would I trust you? No. I don't know you enough for that. I have read your past posts in the forums and well, my NO has even been affirmed Also there is a danger in just providing people with food and money etc. that's not their only problem, after their stomachs are full there's other issues to address like accommodation, employment, mental issues for some, issues if addiction for some etc. if it's an established organisation they already have these things set up and support networks ready and they try and address the problem as a whole not just a part of it. And as Foxxy said, some if them chose to be on the streets and some of them wound up there due to drug addiction etc Long story short, I'm happy to keep helping in other ways and sending my money to established organisations and I applaud you on your charitable work but perhaps you might need to think this through first? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Top job my man, and i would look into it and definately have no problems donating money or goods to the needy , on the question of trust ? Trusting you coops can you trust yourself coops ? Last week you were not sure about your relationship at all ?! And this week and its fantastic your driving home to a loving family and a home and all the toys so you tell me can you trust yourself coops ??? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Coops..... You lost me when you used the word "brainless"... and then went on to refer to those same people as "down and out". Not cool.... Condescending and judgemental, and contradictory to why you'd volunteer at a soup kitchen. Not cool DG - Posted from rhpmobile
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On_Safari
12 years ago
Been donating to the Salvation Army since I was 25, have been the recipient of food boxes because pride wouldn't allow me to ask my family for help. Have coordinated and run successful Charity Fundraisers. Used to volunteer with High Risk Children in Care with English and Maths. Right now concerned about the number of Australian (and I say AUSTRALIAN) families living on the streets while our govt. House, clothe, feed and provide top notch healthcare to people who riot in and destroy that which our own families/people CAN'T enjoy. (An observation not a political/anti-refugee slur). I see the concern for the young families Coops that you've come across, perhaps you could contact Mission Australia and see what they suggest you could do by way of support. If not the charity you currently volunteer for; by way of making a greater contribution to help them.
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RHP User
12 years ago
So far I have secured 4 companies to do a direct debit monthly payment of $100... So that's $400 per month secured in a day!! Outside of my RHP life, I work for a company that went from 1.2 million p/a 10 years ago to 48million last year... And on track to exceed once again by this June..... And I was one of the main captons of that ship.... Securing deals B2B is what I do best... I have also been homeless, I was a pot head, high school drop out who left home at 14 and never went back... I have been involved in people's lives who have been effected by hardcore drugs, abuse, jail, poverty, mental disorders and have helped see people through to better themselves.. I came from those demons myself. I have been a senior football coach in one of the most unprevledged areas in Melbourne which elevated me to local counciler for so many... I have had my share of experience... Now that I have the things I set to achieve, I can go back to my routs and help others... I'm not dealing with the homeless, I am trying to help families from becoming homeless. Teaming up with the soup van provider who will continue to do what they are doing... I can add an additional service myself by identifying the families with young children and give my personal service. As you mentioned, plenty of organisations out there... I'm not trying to save the world, just giving a helping hand to some locals of my new community who need it... Don't confuse my sexual appetites on Rhp with who I am as a person. $400 per month secured out of $1000 which is my goal... I have also had a lady contact me who said she runs another Perth charity and has offered toys and clothing for the children once I identify how many and the ages etc. So far so good... This forum will either get 1-2 people on board to help, or better yet, spark others to contribute within there own community... If this forum thread makes one person get out and help someone, it was well worth it considering most other forums are about random sex, dick size or why men can't pick up lol - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Coops..... You lost me when you used the word "brainless"... and then went on to refer to those same people as "down and out". Not cool.... Condescending and judgemental, and contradictory to why you'd volunteer at a soup kitchen. Not cool DG - Posted from rhpmobile If you really want to do this, the first thing you need to do is suspend your judgements, at least outwardly, no matter what you think of the people you are helping. And the truth is that unless you talk to each of them personally and they are willing to tell you, you have absolutely no idea what led to their current circumstances. Or that they are 'brainless'. You yourself admit that you have been lucky, but you, like most of us are only one or two life incidents away from being in a similar situation. Don't assume you know their stories.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'coops14' I have no doubt that I will get support from the industry I am in... I am the state manager of a large manufacturing company and came up through sales.... I have also been in charge of sponsorship money with football clubs.. Get business on board is my main plan of attack and my specialty, as I want this to be sustainable. I thought I would ask the question and see if any one would actually do it. In short no and an edit along the way For a myriad of reasons, thx for asking though
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RHP User
12 years ago
The great Illusion most people seem to subscribe to is that almost any problem can be solved by throwing money at it.There was a film director,who back in 2006 run a small experiment with a homeless man by giving him $100,000.The homeless man did not know that he was going to receive the money. He was only told that he would be filmed as a documentary as to how a homeless man spends his days. It was about the day and life of a homeless person.The man found the briefcase with $100,000 in a garbage bin(where the film director had purposely left it for him to find) when he was looking for soda cans. This is how he made his money. The man was clearly broke and when he found the briefcase with the money in it, he could not believe it. He actually cried in shock. I was amazed to find out what the homeless man did with the money next.The man first got himself an apartment and then he bought himself a $32,000 truck. He then bought his friends cars by taking them to a car dealership and having them purchase the car that they wanted. He kept on buying more more stuff and then he gave the money away.Now this film maker also gave him the opportunity to use a financial adviser and counselor for free. The homeless man did not take him up on his offer. He instead spent all of the money on whatever he felt like spending his money on. Surprisingly the homeless man lost everything and he stated that he is back on the streets and homeless again in less than a year.The sad truth here is that sometimes when you give money to someone, you hope that they would do the best with it. However, we can see clearly here from this example that it is not always true. When you work for something, you tend to value it more because you knew what it took to make that kind of cash.The homeless man also stated that when he received the $100,000 he also received a lot of friends. He even got married. Once he lost all of his money, the homeless man claimed that his wife did not want him anymore. Does money bring more friends and influence your power? According to this story, it does. You can make friends easily when you have money to spend on them. Many millionaires will tell you that they can have many friends with their money.It is safe to say that from this example, money is best when it is earned and not given to you by another person. Time to listen to someone that needs to be heard about what their needs are.Time to educate someone on how they can help themselves fulfill those Needs.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Money has the wonderful power to grow and thus it seems a little crazy to burn money on purchasing consumables. There are many sources of food available for those in need. We don't have people starving to death here in Australia. If you can secure $1000 a month you are much better investing it to help people. Spending cash on consumables like food and utilities is ultimately not going to help. $1000 a month invested (safely) is $160,000 in ten years, and believe me, ten years is but a blink of the eye. If you spend it on consumable you have nothing in ten year and people will still be wanting. There was a crazy long haired trouble maker 2000 years ago that said "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for life." This still holds true today. The best returning investment is education. Thus with capital building investment and then funding incentives to aid and encourage people to get an education will do so much more than feed them today. If you want to do long term good, invest that money in a trust. If you can get a commitment of $1000 a month, why not another $1000 the next, and so on. It may not give you the warm fuzzy immediate return of giving, but it will do so much more. If you can over the next year get to $4000 ongoing commitment a month, then in five years will have your $1000 a month forever from the interest alone.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Every year I donate thousands of dollars to different charity organisations... Not having much compassion for humanity, all my donations go to groups that look after our environment, wildlife and animals... I'm by no means a 'greenie' .. I just prefer to give my money to preserve what mankind is destroying or abusing with the hope that future generations still have an ocean they can swim and surf in, forests and wildlife to enjoy.. I think the best thing you can do for these people if you want to make a difference is to donate your time to helping them and lobbying the government to put more effort into helping the poor and homeless here at home first before other countries.. Nothing against you Coops, as I don't know you... and as I don't know you, then no, I wouldn't put my trust and money in your hands, I'd rather give it an already reputable organisation.. No disrespect intended..
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MsSuperFoxy
12 years ago
Well said, my friend, well said. I loved that bit .. "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for life." This still holds true today. The best returning investment is education. Foxy
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RHP User
12 years ago
If every person here donated either time ,energy,and or effort to a cause they feel passionate about significant change could happen.. If we all reflected on our good fortune and were determined to pay it forward,,change would indeed happen.. My passion coops is education,access to education for kids with a learning disability or who are marginalised. I donate a day per week of my time writing grants snd mnaging pojects.Congratulatons Coops annd good luck with your project xx Q
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Coops..... You lost me when you used the word "brainless"... and then went on to refer to those same people as "down and out". Not cool.... Condescending and judgemental, and contradictory to why you'd volunteer at a soup kitchen. Not cool DG - Posted from rhpmobile Pretty rank actually
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RHP User
12 years ago
Not cool + 1
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RHP User
12 years ago
but I've just spent my afternoon talking with a grandmother who is a legal guardian of her two grand daughters who are intellectually, physically and emotionally impaired from abuse that they sustained as babies and toddlers from their birth parents. I will give whatever it takes for babies like these. If we all believe in 'community', then money is not a factor in Australia. Think global, act local.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Your time is all you need to give, you can fundraise through that organisation. they do have fundraising arms in all these places so go along to the sausage sizzles or what ever as they are always short of people that end of the organisation. I am not sympathetic coops as I worked too many years in various social welfare groups, seen it all and don't want to see anymore of that stuff it makes you jaded , as the times I offered work and the times people walked out of a job or refused to take a job, I have lost count.I have had houses trashed when I gave people a hand. I have had money taken out of my bag while trying to help someone. so no , I would not give money but time yes. volunteer work is always a good thing I give money to other causes. In Australia we have welfare, its not always the best but its meant to be a payment till you find a job, and believe me coops a lot of people you can give them a job on a silver platter and they will spit in you face for your efforts. I have lived on the streets myself, so I know that its not pleasant, but there are lots and lots and lots of services out there. its the working poor that I worry about. only a fool would hand over money to some random guy that asks for it over the net its not appropriate that you ask for it here. Its also very clear in the RHP policy as well
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RHP User
12 years ago
I mean it. I will give my time or energy or talent. That is what I can afford to give. I think that many are reluctant to 'give' because they are so caught up in the idea that they have to donate money to these causes. Sometimes we just need you to make things or give us stuff you no longer need.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Landed another one... That's $500 per month so far!!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'coops14' Landed another one... That's $500 per month so far!!! Or are you going to do things properly and register? Chances are if you do you will maybe surprise yourself even, donations then will be tax deductible. Never know, maybe an OAM after your moniker in twenty years time. It's great to have good intentions, difficult to follow through and see the goal accomplished. Best of luck to you anyway Coops
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'coops14' Landed another one... That's $500 per month so far!!! - Posted from rhpmobile Or are you choosing to ignore any response to your post that does not include the promise to donate.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Some of the hard facts on where your donation dollars are being spent.A large portion of the most well known and loved charities use fundraising revenue on administrative costs.Examples of fundraising activities can include telemarketers, street fundraisers and events such as dinners and balls. Surf Life Saving Foundation – which uses 62 per cent of its $23.8 million CareFlight (NSW) Ltd - 51 per cent of $11.2 millionMake-A-Wish Foundation – 51 per cent of $11.9 millionDays of Difference Foundation – 48 per cent of $1.5 millionSIDS and Kids NSW – 47 per cent of $1.15 millionChildren’s Medical Research Institute – 46 per cent of $6.7 millionBarnardos – 40 per cent of $4.49 million. Charites that spend the least in administrative costs. Diabetes Australia – Just 2 per cent of $1.4 millionRoyal Flying Doctor Service of Australia – 3 per cent of $4.7 millionAlzheimer’s Australia NSW – 3 per cent of $5.2 millionArthritis Foundation of Australia – 7 per cent of $2.3 millionAustralian Cancer Research Foundation – 7 per cent $7.6 millionGuide Dogs NSW/ACT – 9 per cent of $18.5 million
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'coops14' Landed another one... That's $500 per month so far!!! - Posted from rhpmobile Obviously you have no intention of listening to or responding to any of the feedback on this post that doesn't support what you want to hear or the actions you want to take. This makes you appear arrogant, and that is not a trait that people like to see in someone who is asking them to fork over their money for 'charitable' purposes.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'lilmiss_fussy' And I've worked with and volunteered with not for profits, NGOs etc. I have a strong view that too much goes to waste in the way organisations operate AND by new people coming on the scene trying to set up their own service. I believe strongly in service. I also below strongly in collaboration, connection, efficiency and being financially responsible. Your passion is wonderful Coops. My burning question is how could you channel it to help organisations already dojng the work, without adding to administrative costs for all. That might be your plan and I might have just missed it. If not, food for thought perhaps. - Posted from rhpmobile worked for them myself and saw so much bloody waste of money, especially all the flash cars, the meetings , the hotels it goes on and on.
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