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FFM and sexual satisfaction
July 30 2017
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RHP User
8 years ago
You raise a good point, I would think as a general rule, the one that is "outnumbered" is, as you have said, the centre of attention. Do the same theories apply to the reverse? mfm? Is the woman responsible for satisfying the men? E x
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RHP User
8 years ago
I would have thought it was a team effort for everyone's benefit. However in any case I do see lots of women's profiles in general writing about how the man "must be able to satisfy me". Fair enough if you are sick of lame duck performances, but it appears a little one sided. I've had a very brief FMF (in a revolving situation at a players party - about 15 mins of oral swapping). Essentially my interest would be to try as many arrangements as possible and have different people the giver/s and receiver/s at different times. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Personally speaking, and my belief only..... Inclusion and communication It's the mood. Nobody wants to feel like a 3rd wheel, or feel like prey. It's not about the insecurity-driving concept of stamina or dominance or submission or teamwork (although these elements can play a part in proceedings) It's about everyone involved feeling like a welcome part of the moment ☺️ - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
But I'll be reading with interest.... - Posted from rhpmobile
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AnnieWhichway
8 years ago
Of course. And all participants feed of each other with various plays making it a more dynamic set up. Perhaps the comment applies more to a straight fmf where there is little interaction between the women putting more emphasis on the male to satisfy them both. I've never had a straight fmf. All have been bi.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Straight mff ? Eeeeuuuuwww !
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RHP User
8 years ago
is it all about penetration? And before you attack me about not being a swinger and not going to clubs, not being up with your level of experience lol the dynamic of the encounter in my opinion should have zero to do with each person being satisfied. No-one should be lying back. Would you just lie back in a mmf or with more males? People have mouths and hands and 5 senses, voices. I am genuinely confused by your op
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RHP User
8 years ago
Lying back some of the time of course, I am a fan of individual pleasure but changing it up is essential, any guy just laying there not giving me anything wouldn't get my full passion and worship, I'd then kick him to the kerb 😉 one feeds off the other to gain momentum. Just sounds like you're talking about the guy being a starfish. I couldn't even imagine a man liking that
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RHP User
8 years ago
'Zero to do with each person being satisfied' lol not what I meant 😀
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RHP User
8 years ago
I'm going for a coffee 😎
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RHP User
8 years ago
We always make our guests feel welcome and the center of attention. It's only polite🌷 (but most prefer otherwise and turn their attention on me 😘😍) - Posted from rhpmobile
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LetsFrolic
8 years ago
Should be completely mutual on all parts - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
So you agree with me then. Good for you, perhaps read the question more closely next time. Lmfao!! I love it when the man lies back and is at our mercy as we drive him crazy. It's one part of the play. Some of us actually have long extended play so there is plenty of time to mix it up. Poor me. Will any man sacrifice himself for me? Lie back and let us tie you up while you have two mouths running up and down your cock. Perhaps a woman sitting on your face. I know, I am just terrible to ask a man to do that. :(
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RHP User
8 years ago
But I'd reluctantly submit...in the spirit of scientific enquiry, of course! - Posted from rhpmobile
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Dirtyandfriendly
8 years ago
On the way you want it to go. My friend and I are still looking for that elusive second woman yet we both have agreed that my friend is to be looked after first, followed by the other woman and then me. Funnily enough I was the one who would like it in that order and she agreed. Like you though she likes the idea of pleasing one guy with another woman, but after thy have both had some fun. I am looking forward to watching first though
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RHP User
8 years ago
Good on you! We need men like you. It's a hard job, a very hard ..... job. :p Glad you would be up for the challenge.
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RHP User
8 years ago
People's differences are interesting. My experience of being in threesomes is that things can change around much more quickly. Someone may play the submissive role being pleasured by everyone else only for a few moments or they may enjoy the moment until they orgasm. Just depends on the players and how energetic everyone feels. I definitely enjoy all the mouths and hands and cocks, but not as much as having a man in a "submissive" (not sure if that is the correct way to describe it?) position. I totally love that and find it hot AF. I find that much hotter than being in the "middle". Lucky I find men to indulge me. ;)) But my question is why do some people feel the guy has two satisfy the women when it should be more about the group. Those are my thoughts anyway. Cheers CD
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RHP User
8 years ago
You prefer to be the centre of attention. That's great. Although it's probably why I don't indulge in straight MMF very much. I prefer the men in the middle. I don't know, perhaps there is a dom in me trying to get out. 🤗
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RHP User
8 years ago
(Ignore my profile. It was tongue-in-cheek lol) I said we always make our guests the centre of attention. We have had the guy lie back with both of us sharing his cock. I don't think we heard any complaints 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile
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AnnieWhichway
8 years ago
Quoting 'Sailbadthesinner' Straight mff ? Eeeeuuuuwww !Yeah, l know right......
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RHP User
8 years ago
There are activities rarely explored not even in video/porn. I have looked up what you might call double-cunnilingus (orally sharing a female - the opposite of two people sharing a male/cock), and have found a very few videos of two people managing to go down on a female at the same time. Obviously a penis is erect, fully external so with room on either side etc (so to speak), while the reverse is between the legs and therefor difficult to get more than one head/mouth/tongue in position. Maybe two is not much more beneficial than one doing it properly anyway? Also it is perhaps more up close and personal for the two "givers" than sharing a male, so perhaps more comfortable for straight-inclined persons in a MFF than a MFM. Any thoughts?
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RHP User
8 years ago
How about me suspended legs one' shoulder while they go down on me and one person at the back rimming me at the same time. And a third kissing my mouth. Okay, that has me squirming in my seat. That would be awesome!
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RHP User
8 years ago
Who cares! Think I just came a little bit. Haha 😆
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LetsFrolic
8 years ago
There is nothing nicer than laying back and letting a women or hopefully one day 2 have their way with you.. then after finding the tempo vibe they put ypu in and like return the favour. Im always up for that. I love having a woman take control at the start.. i can feel how she wants and likes things that way. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
In any case if someone(s) wanted me to lay back and recieve, I would prefer that to be last on the festivities if trying for completion (not that I don't have seconds or thirds in me lol). In any case if you are also only looking for an energisier bunny dosed up on viagra, perhaps best stick to the vibrator/s. And if it is solely the man's job to do the satisfying what is the point of having bi females? Or having two straight or bi females together at all? I love the early comment on MFM and whether the female is supposed to satisfy the men. Generally it's (still) the reverse, however I have been in situations including a female submissive and yes in that case sometimes it is her wanting to please the men, but the reverse is still somewhat true, as any interaction involves pleasure for all or both parties, even those who may be choosing to watch. The point is, sex is supposed to be an enjoyable, energising, fun and destressing (if not literally relaxing) time for all involved, a time to explore and perhaps go with the flow if nothing specific is pre-arranged. As soon as you start allocating responsibility, tasks or performance requirements for certain individuals, no wonder people will start to feel anxious. Yes I'm sure a very few guys will be up to the "task", but if it's going to be a task I'll just stick with work and at least I get paid for it :P
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RHP User
8 years ago
"You" isn't refering to anyone in particular.
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RHP User
8 years ago
OP/Candy question was... "Or if you would like to have an FFM how would you see it playing out ?" So yes, very much still on topic Candy :)
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RHP User
8 years ago
I've never had an fmf or ffm but if I did, I'd like to think that it would be an 'all hands on deck' experience, with all of the participants getting a turn at being the centre of attention, and all participants being satisfied at the end of play. No pressure on one party to satisfy the others. My biggest fantasy is mmf or mfm, and while I have some experience at that rodeo, there are three particular scenarios that I'd like participate in. One is the 'starfish' where I'm the centre of attention and my satisfaction is paramount. The second is where the two men are the centre of attention, and I'm accountable for satisfying them both. The third is what I described above... all hands on deck, no holes barred, everyone doing everything to everyone :)
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RHP User
8 years ago
Now that's my kinda talk !
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SugarSugar69
8 years ago
I like to tie him to a chair so he watch the 2 ladies devour each other. Drive him crazy. See how much he can handle before he tries to break free. Then whatever happens happens. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Mask_007
8 years ago
Works well when everyone enjoy to please a be pleased freely. And of course isreally in to oral sex. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Dirtyandfriendly
8 years ago
I guess I'd have to put my hand up and be pleased by two women, I'll do it for all mankind, actually I'd murder to be that guy, like seriously the two women would be in the bathroom getting ready he's laying on the bed I'd knock him out throw him out the window. You have all been warned
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Beachlifetwo
8 years ago
My husband and I tend to lean slightly towards some focus on the guest but generally everyone get a ribbon and we all share the fun. Satisfying toe two girls doesn't seem to be to big an issue for him or us?
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RHP User
8 years ago
Deck is kiwi for dick 😂😂 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
If we take the previous thread of a young man rejecting an FFM, we saw that nearly every male who offered his services suggested that he was capable of meeting the needs of two women. Our profile gets hit up daily with the promise that the individual 'will do us both' ... so not the case. I can guarantee you, even the duds got an experience of a lifetime with two women who enjoy to please and are bisexual. Each playmate, despite their lack of skills they professed they had, got full attention from two women. In any play, everyone should bring their 'A game' ... the permeation of people is insignificant. I do know when I've had MMF or MFM, not one person just gets to lay there. If that's your thing all good. IT'S NOT MINE THOUGH ...in an FFM, the male does have two women to please as each respective woman has another woman and male to please ... that's the nature of a successful play. So yes, it does take a special man to please two women :) Mary xx
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RHP User
8 years ago
So you are calling BS on all the men's comments. I did see on the "guy turning down two women" thread that you are stating, from your experience, only 20% or less are capable of satisfying you and your female partner. That's harsh. My point is that it is a three way and shouldn't really be up to one person to please everyone. Sometimes it works out like that. Other times it doesn't.
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RHP User
8 years ago
I have been a participant in ffm on a couple of occasions but I'm by no means claiming to be that special man, in fact I'm thankfull that I was in company of quite special women. It does indeed need all hands and it was the women's enthusiasm for each other that carried the day, of course I participated with full enthusiasm and an awesome time was had by all. I don't believe in any group play it pays to lump the responsibility on anyone or any sex to carry the day, it's really up to all involved to have a good time themselves and to care for others, experienced helps of course particularly when it's shared. It also helps a lot that you know each other a bit or at least two of you do, in one case one other was the third in one case I was the third and we each made an effort to spread the joy. When done in the right spirit threesome or group sex is pretty damned awesome and no I haven't had a bad experience, perhaps because it's not something I have been driven to do, it's just happened because I'm open to it.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Call me skeptical but 'it is our experience' and I'm basing my posts on that experience! Harsh ... oh well! I can tell you we are two very giving and very switched on women ... we have been disppointed repeatedly ... even from those who boast the loudest lol. Our profile has changed because my circumstances have changed but prior to that it was explicitly clear 'that anyone wanting to play had to have the 'emotional, social and sexual maturity to please two women' ... that did not mean he hd to do all the work but that he actually knew what to do with two women he wanted to fuck and actually had the skills and stamina to do so. Mary xx
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RHP User
8 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I know exactly what you are saying and I have experienced group play with people like that as well. One difference probably is that most of my group experiences are not necessarily pre-planned so I have no expectations of the guy at all, i am just going with the flow. My expectations are different to yours. Also, a lot of the time we have a back up guy. Lol. :))
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RHP User
8 years ago
I'd like to address the A game comment. But in a general way. Is really so necessary that everyone bring their A game? Nice, but essential? We all know how difficult it can be to find a group that have the same chemistry with all the players. So what if a guy feels his A game with one person but a B- game with the other. More experienced people can hide this much better, but perhaps people new to group sex maybe not so much? I haven't had many FFM to be honest as my preference is for bi MMF. And in a lot of those instances the bisexual guys who joined us were bottoms and so I always "fucked" boy both of the men so to speak. I didn't see those experiences as a failure at all. They were hugely amazing experiences for the most part and I loved every minute of them, no matter what permutations occurred..... and yes, I have had a lot of those. :))
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RHP User
8 years ago
I need to correct my comment above. That should say that I wasn't always fucked by both guys
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RHP User
8 years ago
From my very limited experience (once only so far) it was not sexually satisfying. Everyone was into it and no one was a star fish. He was the center of attention but we all received attention and no one was made to feel like a third wheel. It was fun, interesting and very very sexy. I felt exhilarated after but not actually sexually satisfied. I'm glad I experienced it and might again cause after all it was sexy fun. 😉
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RHP User
8 years ago
I guess it depends on what sexual satisfaction means for each of us. The problem is, it is probably different for many of us. It might be simply having multi orgasms in a session (for a woman) and being physically totally exhausted, or it might be a deeper meaning, or something more basic. Just one orgasm is fine for me if it is the big one at the end. But are we tying in sexual or physical satisfaction with more psychological needs? In which case I can have 2 or 3 orgasms in a session but still not be "satisfied". So then each person needs to find out what each other person finds sexually satisfying. If you connect more with your mind then the larger the group size is probably going to hamper said satisfaction. Providing orgasms is the easy bit, fulfilling a mind, body and soul thing one-on-one, let alone in a threesome or more, I'm sure is much harder. And just like finding a job, losing virginity and other milestones, it appears you need all the experience and knowledge before you even get a look in for certain situations. But then how you get the experience and/or knowledge? From books? (I'm serious, there are actually guides to threesomes - in this case FFM - by various publishers).
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RHP User
8 years ago
All your comments resonate with me :) I particular like the A game comments, connection and chemistry is critical to that. By way of definition I was thinking of a particular play of ours when I made the 'A game comment'. All I mean by that is the obvious desire to want to be involved in a play and the desire to bring pleasure to others as best as possible considering your situation or circumstances :) Without too much identifying information (lol), the other Hotwife and I had a day of debauchery prior to leaving for a Thailand holiday. We organised two plays for the day and both were a disaster, even though with one guy, I'd played with him individually. Imagine guy A, bought his 11incher to the party and he thought that's all that was needed. He literally just lay there and enjoyed as the other Hotwife and I tried to get him hard and or blow him for three hours. It could've been nerves or any combination of things but he couldn't maintain an erection despite what we did to titlate, eventually with both of us going to town, he orgasmed. Now, he didn't touch us really, didn't kiss, didn't penetrate us, really was a starfish. In my view, there was no real 'game' there at all. He showered and wanted to hop into bed for 'cuddles' but I asked him to leave after the obligatory niceties were done. On the same day, guy B, previously played with me before, come to the hotel room, definitely far more interactive with us in terms of kissing and touching BUT he simply forgot he was in a threesome ... he forgot that I was there lol and this was definitely a case of the fantasy and reality not matching up ... he simply didn't know or couldn't interact with two women simultaneously even though I supported him in his play with the other Hotwife. He did have intercourse with her, he came, he went to shower and I just sat there going ... right ... time for the toys to come out lol. He has since asked for a second play and he has graciously accepted kind feedback :) Our first ever Hotwife experience was with an absolute hottie. All was going wonderfully well till that dredded rubber had to go on ... BUT that man deserves an absolute medal. He teased, touched, kissed, cuddled and had us both writhing on the floor in pleasure with hands and tongue. We couldn't offer him much and sensed his discomfort at us trying to help so we went with the flow. There was no penetration but that still remains a wonderful experience ... we had our A game on, so did he. I am with you though on the MMF threesome ... bloody hot :) Mary xx
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RHP User
8 years ago
In any threesome permutation (two women or two men), I'm not reallly interested in a situation where one person is centre of attention for all or most of the time. It's fine if that's what others like, but I much prefer a situation where everyone gets a turn at being centre of attention and there's pleasure being given and received in all directions. Mary's comment above provides good examples of why I think that whilst many men fantasise about two women at the same time, once it actually happens they have trouble with the dynamics that are needed for everyone to have a good time (I'm not equating a good time with number of orgasms here either...as ticklish said above she still had a good time even though she wasn't actually sexually satisfied). Unfortunately, my preference for everyone pleasing each other makes my life difficult as well...not easy for a single woman to find two men who are down for playing with each other as well as with the woman in a threesome. Those men are my unicorns
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RHP User
8 years ago
A caveat to my above comments....obviously if the two women involved are happy to have the guy be centre of attention and for him to not do too much in the way of giving, then that can still result in a good time for everyone. Like most sexual encounters I think the most important part is making sure that everyone is on the same page beforehand in regards to expectations about what will happen and what each person wants and expects from the experience, to maximise the chances of everyone leaving with a smile on their face.
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RHP User
8 years ago
I must commend you. You and other wifey worked on that guys cock for three hours! Ok, I would have stopped for a bit of chat to let him get more comfortable with the situation, and if on the second try it was the same. I would have stopped it. 3 hrs of sucking a limp cock - ain't no one got time for that!! Sounds like they were not experienced in playing with more than one before?? Moral of the story.... you really need a back up M. Lol.
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RHP User
8 years ago
My taste in women in very particular so usually I don't indulge in much play with the other female, which Is why the male is more the centre. Not all the time, but a lot.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Quoting 'CandyDelicious' My taste in women in very particular so usually I don't indulge in much play with the other female, which Is why the male is more the centre. Not all the time, but a lot. I'm the same, I'm pretty fussy when it comes to women I'm attracted to sexually so that's actually another reason why FFM is a fair way down on my list.
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Beachlifetwo
8 years ago
In our experience whenever we have had a mfm three way the focus was on the lady, but when the threeway is fm the focus has generally been a team effort on the girls who tend to pleasure each other with the man filling in the gaps so to speak. Mr beach life has never felt overwhelmed or that he should be the centre of attention.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Happy to just been eaten alive... Lol - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Have had 2 chicks a few times now and have pleased all of them was aiming to try 3 im sure - Posted from rhpmobile
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BorisLovehammer
8 years ago
It's a team effort, one thing i would love to try is fucking a woman while another pleasures her with her mouth, didn't get around to it when i had threesome as she was too busy filming us but I'm sure it would give quite the mind blowing orgasm. I'm simply not flexible enough to do that on my own 😂 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Saw a quite delicious scene in a movie just recently involving a FFM with a DP for one of the women, between the man and the other woman with a strap on...
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RHP User
8 years ago
if it were me, i would be licking like there was no tomorrow
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RHP User
8 years ago
Love FFM more then i thought i would have feels amazing
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