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Educating Mike, a continuation of the series of discussions. The male role in sex education

February 04 2023

An interesting topic popped up recently on the forums which created a space for men to discuss RHP interactions with women and it got me thinking, what is the male role in sex education? I think back to school days, I was at an all boys school, I had heard of encounters from school mates, sex was mainly joked about and the talk was always brutish, locker room stuff and crass. It was all about getting it in, getting a head job, (there’s a term you don’t hear any more) blowing a load and nothing else. Sex wasn’t talked about in my house openly, it was the late 70’s early 80’s. I learned about women’s bodies from playboy and penthouse, I enjoyed reading the forums and their titillating stories. Porn was a learning tool and quite vanilla (I’m talking 80’s) compared to whats on offer today and thats where I learned about going down on a woman as it was rarely discussed and when it was it wasn’t described in a positive manner, geez how did I manage to turn out like I have? 🤷‍♂️ I realise now that at no point did any male ever discuss feelings, emotions, connections and how they make sex so much better and I realise this is a failing on the men’s side. Apart from RHP has anyone ever discussed how important these three things are when having sex? It could be an opportunity missed and explain why there are horror stories from women and their encounters with men, because the men were never educated properly. The main question is do you think it’s time for men to educate other men about the full sexual experience we can offer women rather than perpetuate the “school yard” narrative? What are the pros and cons involved? And to the founding members of the forums I apologise in advance if this topic has been done to death on here. 😜 ✌️

Comments

  • FeistyFatty

    FeistyFatty

    3 years ago

    They do all this at school now. Maybe not all but I know they discuss this at my kids school.

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    3 years ago

    For centuries women have been asking men to talk their feelings and emotions for emotional connections. As soon as a woman says, "we need to talk" or "How are you feeling?", they run! Not jog like a fairy, but bolt faster than road runner. POOF! goneskie. Something David Copperfield would be proud of. It doesn't help males in society when you've got twits out there like Andrew Tait etc on social media spreading crap and not validating emotions or feelings for a connection. 🙄 No wonder men (some, not all) get confused and shut off their feelings. It must be confusing. They have a woman in one ear begging for emotional connections and a twit in the other, preaching complete nonsense. All they have to do is ask. A woman will state what she likes and dislikes. Ms Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    3 years ago

    Rather than try offer the experience to women, do it for yourself. It starts with you, and if you are connected to yourself then you will connect with a woman and it will be a better match. For me sex is always good because of open communication, and taking the time to connect first.

  • CairnsGuy35

    CairnsGuy35

    3 years ago

    I agree with the statement that an emotional open honest connections with a partner makes for a better sexual connection from both women and men. I have found this out of late but only from having gone through relationships that I wasn't willing to open up with my partner or maybe understand the benefits. I think there has always been a stigma for men to be brave, strong and emotionless but I believe that if we can teach our youth that having the connect with at least one person it will make for a much more happier life. I also think that women are obviously more receptive, even if there are difficulties to go through, when honest and open communication is had and that allows them to be able to be fully open with their partner. It is good if they are starting to teach this to school age boys and i think they should also discuss this with girls and maybe ways to approach men about it. To the females: how early in life did you understand or recognise the importance and connection differences.

  • nightingale8

    nightingale8

    3 years ago

    You’re basically asking, do you think men should tell others what’s true rather than what’s false about sex. Pros and cons. I’m always wary of leading questions delivered in a sea of truisms as I find myself answering with something I never even thought in the first place. Anyway, what’s true or false probably depends on your intention, position and cultural/societal context. Should men learn about connection/emotions leading to better sex? Probably. Do most men deep down already know this? Probably. Is showing you know and care about emotions/connection going to drop you down the social ladder or decrease your desirability? Often. Straight men compete with men. Dudes, your yardstick for status and accomplishments sucks.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    3 years ago

    I went to heaven and came back an angel 😇 To learn everything so that our life together I will never need to ask, I learned to be right there with her and we learned together and as an angel I know we ride the current flowing throughout the stars and galaxies and worlds sparkling with gems and bright coloured flowers and water clear and as we travel Tara’s eyes sparkle when she smile’s that is the all to what matters smiling is the heavens and earths and mother natures rules ‘A mother can only love you as much as she can And she can’ ‘Living in the land of the common people” ‘Paul Young’ It’s all Tara ever wanted. To be a mother and love our kids as much as she can. and she can. All I ever wanted and she can. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    3 years ago

    Are you talking about the "men's space" on here as the sin heading forum, "Secret Men's Business" or other topics of space on here?? Just curious Ms Foxy

  • Ex007

    Ex007

    3 years ago

    In my experience men in general are very sensitive both in emotions and touch. When they feel they are in an 💯 safe space they do express themselves on all levels. I've experienced it time and time again. I've been told that I have an amazing sense of calm about me with completely no judgement. Men open up to me more then they have ever done so with anyone in their entire life before. According to what I've been told. I believe this comes from myself having a very real sense of self as in who I am. When a person has a strong sense of self they have no need to hide or feel they need to guard themselves. This allows people to be completely open and honest, in turn holding space for others to do the same.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    3 years ago

    .. EM, The shortest answer to your question is YES. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. . With Feminism still (maybe even ‘more than ever’) seen as a dirty word, it’s become blindingly apparent that it takes MEN to change the opinions, behaviours and actions of MEN. . If more daughters had fathers like you, telling them and modelling to them the MINIMUM amount of respect that they should be showed in any relationship, then it would be a MUCH saner world. . And if more sons had fathers like you, modelling and actively teaching them how to treat a romantic partner, then we would live in a far more tolerant and far less violent world (Sunday 5.2.23, a man was arrested in relation to the death of a woman - the 6th violent death of a woman in Australia in 2023. There were 67 violent deaths of women in 2022). . We STILL have the majority of men in Australia somehow thinking that they don’t have to ACTIVELY guide other men towards healthier behaviour. ANY behaviour. . If more men saw the value and outright pleasure in learning how to treat a woman sexually, and how to give them a “full sexual experience”, sweet cheese and crackers, what a goddam awesome world this would be. ❤️ ** . FYI, I don’t think that this topic has ‘been done to death’ - which makes it awesome that a man has brought it up 🥰 . If anyone is looking for resources to support this topic . . . check out these potentially helpful podcasts * The Man Enough Project * Full Credit To The Boys * The Imperfects * Driven Young * Ask A Sub . ** Before the inevitable counter argument of ‘starfish’, etc gets brought up, I think it would be helpful to note that the majority of women are given a rude education beginning in their early teens😢, on just how to ‘pleasure a man’. This same argument can not be made for men. 🫤

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    3 years ago

    I don’t believe it’s so much teaching men the ‘full sexual experience to offer women’ I believe men need to lead by example and teach young men the meanings of principles that honour and protect what true friendship is. If a man respects a woman is her own person, she makes her own choices, she needs honesty, loyalty, faithfulness, advice, over all if the man supports her choices and does his best to help see them through for her meanings, even if she makes a mistake, it’s her’s to make and learn. If a man learns to take pride with principles (one answer unconditional, for any attempt otherwise and or emotions, eg embarrassing, disrespect, frightening, manipulative, etc Then what he is proud of is treating a woman as a friend and maintain the friendship so that she is in the centre of his life always, the only way that is guaranteed is if she wants to be with that man her friend. The journey is unique, tough times, good time’s, children and work, time. Then I believe men offer the full sexual experience to women. Men won’t get the full experience if they have betrayed women, even small betrayals are still betrayal and will lose some of the values of the friendship. It’s a strict discipline, turns out easy over time and naturally feelings and emotions are shared with each other, men do think differently than women, so best understand it’s a thing and relish it all, the sex is ineffable and continues as a regular works in progress. No tricks, just friends caring for each other, all friends for the same. Leading by example is showing the years as friends and the happiness comes of it. She will show him. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • Hawt1

    Hawt1

    3 years ago

    I want to add something now. Violence is not always from men towards women. Personally I have been punched in the throat... it occurred to me she could of killed me and then I very nearly lost my shit.. if I had of lost my shit, I was superfit and I can guarantee she would of become a statistic and I would not be writing this. Still I ended up on assault charged for holding her wrists after she nearly killed me. Cops would not let it go?, Thankfully the Judge saw sence and told cops not to waste the courts time. I'd also note.. no one mentioned any sort of punishment to the one that initiated the violence. This bias against men is unpalatable in my oppinion. Learnings 1. Ladies do not initiate something you cannot reasonably finish! 2. Guys.. try and leave before it gets this bad. I was in this process of moving out when she went for me. 3. Take gender out of the equation when referring to teaching our kids what is what... no one should be belting anybody (unless asked for and with safe word).