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Early masturbation and orgasms
August 24 2014
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RHP User
11 years ago
Sorry I did do spaces but it's all lumped into one!
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HedonicGent
11 years ago
... to follow this and see what the ladies have to say. As a man the experience was no doubt different but I think likely to be just as variable. There's no manual to yourself so I just did what felt good. I know what stimulated me when I was a teen and how I came then versus now has changed immensely so I do not think things becomes fixed, just our mind fixes them rather strongly and it takes an open mind and time to change how what you enjoy and how you orgasm. Obviously I'm no female but I do know many of my partners in the past have had fairly fixed feelings on different areas of stimulations and stimulants, so to speak, but with experimentation, by themselves and with me/other partners, their preferences changed considerably. That said the vast majority came most easily with clitoral stimulation of some description. Hope you don't mind a bit of male input to start!
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RHP User
11 years ago
There is a saying... do what youvew always done, and get what you've always got. Ofcourse, you can feel your own stimulation, so you will stimulate yourself in the most efficient way to generate pleasure... and the result you seek..... which has been climax. Repeat that often enough and you create a dependance upon HOW you have effectively trained yourself to respond. I know I'll have the old guard tell me I'm not a woman and i have no idea... but those same women will also try to tell me guys watching excessive amounts of porn have certain expectations, or are incapable of engaging or connecting with a woman. The statistics vary, but somewhere near 30% of women suggest they are vaginally orgasmic.That means 70%, who have the same anatomy, and the same physiology,..... don't. But that doesn't mean they can't. After all, they have the same anatomy, and the same physiology. OP... if you take the time with a masterful lover who knows how to properly engage and guide you past the "quick fix" and towards a higher level of seeking pleasure and not just release..... you'll get there. Practice makes perfect. DG
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RHP User
11 years ago
I have posted before about how clitoral stimulation alone does little for me (and when I linked this to oral didn't some guys have a fit )...and I put this at least partly down to my early masturbation practices, although there's likely more to it.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Like any human condition,we lay down our behaviour in patterns of pleasure or pain stimulation. Emotional and physical. We may experience something new,the endorphins kick it. And then the band plays,that's the way I like it. Even if the way you like things is not always good for you. Most women start with the clitorus, some like me, find that is the pleasure zone,and that's it. Others find the g spot the t spot and the whole box and dice. And poor teddy, his little nose must be sore but boy does her have some stories to tell at the teddy bear Picnic!
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RHP User
11 years ago
I was a very late masturbator, never even really thought about it until after I was in a long term relationship with my ex husband. As a teen I could get plenty of sex and I did, nothing has changed there. My ex made me both g-spot and c-spot orgasm all the time, however, since then, I have had only one guy make me cum when he went down on me and had a finger in each hole, a couple of others have made me squirt but the yummy body wave g-spot cum has escaped me. I feel I have to have an emotional connection for that to happen, I have been so close with guys I had great chemistry with but no cigar. I find that I can't truly relax with a one off, I need to build some sort of repertoire with a guy to let my guard down properly and let myself go. Guys say how much they want you to cum but if they don't put in the effort with me then it isn't going to happen and by effort, I mean getting to know me and my body on more than one occasion and actually giving a shit about my pleasure and my wants and needs.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Yes I agree that how you masturbate trains your body. So it's how you masturbate and I have also found it's the positions can effect it as well. Seems like a no brainier to me. And I also don't cum unless I have clot oral stimulation. Whether that is just me it because I have trained my body that way, who knows. I have never gone down the vibrator path as I don't want to get dependent on them.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I will try that again... Yes I agree that how you masturbate trains your body. So it's how you masturbate and I have also found it's the positions you do it in can also effect it as well. Seems like a no brainer to me. And I also don't cum unless I have clitoral stimulation. Whether that is just me or because I have trained my body that way, who knows. I have never gone down the vibrator path as I don't want to get dependent on them.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' There is a saying... do what youvew always done, and get what you've always got. Ofcourse, you can feel your own stimulation, so you will stimulate yourself in the most efficient way to generate pleasure... and the result you seek..... which has been climax. Repeat that often enough and you create a dependance upon HOW you have effectively trained yourself to respond. I know I'll have the old guard tell me I'm not a woman and i have no idea... but those same women will also try to tell me guys watching excessive amounts of porn have certain expectations, or are incapable of engaging or connecting with a woman. The statistics vary, but somewhere near 30% of women suggest they are vaginally orgasmic.That means 70%, who have the same anatomy, and the same physiology,..... don't. But that doesn't mean they can't. After all, they have the same anatomy, and the same physiology. OP... if you take the time with a masterful lover who knows how to properly engage and guide you past the "quick fix" and towards a higher level of seeking pleasure and not just release..... you'll get there. Practice makes perfect. DG does that mean you have a 100% success rate of making a woman cum seeing you seem to know the female anatomy and what we are obviously, in your opinion, capable of? I can tell you that after each of my children my anatomy changed as to what I liked and didn't like sexually so yes, we all have the same equipment but I have no idea how it can feel differently. Some women can cum with very little stimulation, others need a lot, some just can't at the time. Do I agree that we are all capable? Yes, but I think there is a lot more to it than you're assuming. Our organs are internal as well and they are affected by things like a full bladder or bowel that I don't imagine having a penis would have too much interference with because they are not being directly pushing on each other while being filled with something else. I have also bled from too hard and far a penetration, something else you guys don't have to worry about and our hormones are often big players in our cycles and desires to even have sex (fortunately not so much for me). Your above argument would mean that considering most guys would say they wank a lot because they can't get sex because apparently us women don't put out, that they could only cum when they wank because they have trained themselves to do that. I can't say that I have come across many men who can't cross the line.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Yes, there's more to it..... I just didn't feel like adding considerably more detail..... And having to read arguments as a result ;-) To answer your question... No... I don't have a 100% success rate..:. nobody does, not even a woman masturbating can say she does long-term.... but..... I don't define success by orgasms. DG - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
After reading your post Twitch... I'll never look at a Teddy the same again?!?!?! Hahahahahaha G xx
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RHP User
11 years ago
I always have 100% success rate. Even when I am distracted or thinking of something else.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Give it time. Quoting 'Mischeviouslad'No... I don't have a 100% success rate..:. nobody does, not even a woman masturbating can say she does long-term.... but..... I don't define success by orgasms.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Don't put a hex on me! Sheesh! 😳
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RHP User
11 years ago
For a couple of days. 😝
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RHP User
11 years ago
I find it difficult to climax with just clitoral stimulation when with a man, I need penetration of some sort as well Yet when I masturbate it's not a problem with clitoral stimulation alone and never has been back from when I started. My discovery was from reading an article from my older sisters mag "Cleo" titled "the little man in the boat" which was all about how to stimulate the clitoris so that's how I would always do it. Like DG said it's easy for us as we are feeling it, we know when to adjust the pressure or the direction but I find no matter how skilled a lover all it takes is for them to slightly deviate off course and the moment backs off ... That's why with penetration at the same time the build up doesn't back off :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
and need respect and understanding. I had one lady who climaxed 7x with normal intercourse, (only lady that has done that so presumable that is rare), another who had never climaxed in her life (she was nearly 40 at the time and had been previously married for 20-yrs), and could only climax with the right clitoral stimulation at the right time, another who could climax normally in some situations however other times needed clitoral stimulation which she did and could regulate herself to bring simultaneous orgasm. Also depends on mood and feelings at the time. So, you just need to talk and discuss and work out what works best for you and your partner. (mostly what is best for the woman as we all know men generally do not have an issue with cumming)
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happy0450
11 years ago
Dear TM I know you are looking for the experiences of other women, however I too would love to hear from (according to Stats) the 75% of women who have difficulty reaching and orgasm during intercourse alone and what they and their partners have experimented with. For the last six months I have quietly tried to bring a FWB (not from this site) to an Orgasm from penetration alone She, 42, 8 sexual partners, masturbated since she was 11 - learnt from her sister :) Anyhow, comes quickly from oral, and/or direct clitoral stimulation. We (without making it a focus or destination), have tried every which way of penetration. Morning, night, happy, a little grumpy, outdoors, a little drunk, once even a little stoned, all angels, pillows under her cute bum, tied up, romantic, a little B&D. She will come easily with the combination of penetration and clitoral stimulation by either of us so, I have come to the position, is it so important ?. One observation, an I'm no expert (god, this could get me in trouble with some of the forum posters - venturing into an opinion on woman's anatomy - apologies in advance - but it is for a good cause - her clitoris appears more covered, or less protruding, regardless of her level of arousal, now other clitorises I've know. Good luck :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
This WILL ruffle some feathers. Respect and understanding are NOT needed for a woman to reach orgasm. At all. And I support that comment with evidence from medical journals where rape victims have had orgasms, and felt totally betrayed by both the culprit and their own body. Now before any dopey hothead mouthed off saying I advocate rape.... knock that shit right off. I offer that snippet of fact only to show that there is more going on during sex than simple physical stimulation, or psychological positioning... but at times a complex combination of the two in varying and changing degrees. DG
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RHP User
11 years ago
You tread a thin line. I do know first hand regarding rape, and what you said. But there are some days, on some topics, I feel the urge to feed you, your balls rolled in bread crumbs. But I think it would be a small feast.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I've known a few women who don't cum when penetrated, yet could cum by masturbating their clit... Obviously rubbing your clit up against your teddies nose hit the mark for you.. Good as way as any i guess? Gets back to the old saying... Do what you do ' do well.. Love your first up post btw... You certainly didn't hold back and told it as it is... Jay..
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RHP User
11 years ago
Did we go from masturbation to rape? Just because it the research exists doesn't mean it's appropriate for any old forum merely to prove a point! Hi OP, I think I was about twelve when I started. I can't remember how, but I loved rubbing myself whenever I went to the bathroom and would probably come within sixty seconds. The shower head was another fave. I used to think I'd never be able to orgasm without clitoral stimulation, and the first time I did have a vaginal orgasm it was a surprise. Most of my orgasms are still clitoral though, and relatively easy to achieve, especially with my trusty bullet. The sixty second timeframe hasn't changed much.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Further to my earlier disclaimer......and comments scout mindset..... It's also important to realise that some women occasionally get their panties in such a tight bunch right up in their high and mighties, that they feel a compulsion to react..... and that will affect their state of mind too. :D Ladies.....Just because you find something uncomfortable to read, (more than likely because "I" wrote it, and you're on a bit of an anti-me crusade with pitchforks and flaming torches at present lol) doesn't make it less factual or relevant. How you choose to respond.... is what is important. Feel free to un-bunch the panties....and contribute...... now. I'll let you go back to talking/thinking about me now while others carry on with the topic ;-)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Yes, there's more to it..... I just didn't feel like adding considerably more detail..... And having to read arguments as a result ;-) To answer your question... No... I don't have a 100% success rate..:. nobody does, not even a woman masturbating can say she does long-term.... but..... I don't define success by orgasms. DG - Posted from rhpmobile Sorry, I disagreed with you in the last post I commented in... and I have to here, also. Women having the same physical anatomy and 'bits and pieces' has nothing to do with what they 'should be' capable of or not. Shit... Sex is a very complicated and personal thing and no-one can claim any particular method, formula or anything else, is anything near a 'sure-fire' way to achieve anything. It's all FAR too complicated and so many aspects (physical and psychological) are constantly in play (for both men and women)... In fact, I THINK women are more complicated than men in so many ways... We don't have much hope of surety in anything... At least, not anything we can apply to any more than one specific woman that we get to know very well over quite some time.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I find the topic could equally apply to men, seeing as we recently had a topic about edging, which, is a form of masturbation training. I discovered masturbation totally by accident.... the result of a combination of friction from clothing on a pubescent body while exercising. Most unexpected. It hasn't necessarily dictated how I respond sexually, and these days I simply don't masturbate. I much prefer to share that 'energy' with another person. There are times I may not climax with a woman and some have felt like they were inadequate because of my personal "wiring" that way, but I don't treat climax as a goal or finish line and it genuinely doesn't bother me if I don't if pleasure is the focus
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RHP User
11 years ago
I think that over the years I may have become dependant on the sensation of the vibrator and therefore I find it more difficult now achieving an orgasm using my hand, even with penetration. I also think it has desensitized my clitoris a bit. . I'm thinking of going back to basics but am also open to trying new things to hopefully achieve an orgasm without clitorical stimulation but I'm not sure it's going to happen, one can only try though! Haha :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Yes...poor poor teddy! :P
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RHP User
11 years ago
Glad to hear you were able to achieve a vaginal orgasm! There's still hope out there haha 60 seconds! Wow!! :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Just a quick word about your mention of "a full bladder" affecting ability to cum, maybe not being an issue for men, given their penis is outside and away from the 'bladder'..." etc. I know with me, that having a full bladder can definitely affect my ability to get there. It still puts pressure on the few inside bits we do have (apart from being uncomfortable)... Our prostate is right next to the bladder (in fact, it is the point at which our urethra and 'vas differens' meet inside and pass through the prostate and where one is closed off and the other left open, so we can ejaculate). The prostate is the organ that 'pulsates' and 'forces/pumps' the semen out. Pressure on it (apart from the discomfort) will upset things a bit. So, in that regard, we have similar reactions (at least I do) in terms of 'getting there'. Hormones, as they decline with age (unless supplemented) can also affect the libido and the ability to 'arrive'... Supplements can be needed as early as 60 with some men (unless there is an inherent problem, then they may be required earlier)... Unfortunately, a lot of men don't realize these things and don't go to the Doc if they have any problems. Along with the fact that many men avoid Doctors like the plaque when something in that area goes awry, because they know that it probably means the old 'rubber glove'... Arrrrgggghhhh
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RHP User
11 years ago
Just an 'extension' of this thread... I have read, heard and experienced myself, that a larger number of women than not, are able to have 'clitoral orgasms' as opposed to 'vaginal orgasms'. I don't have a percentage and wouldn't assume to believe one I came across on the Net anyway... But can I ask the ladies if this is indeed true... That the majority find Clitoral (rather than Vaginal) orgasms more common and/or more easily achieved?
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RHP User
11 years ago
Dick in hand I run, All with the aim to cum, I'm not much a poet, But gawd do I know it, Tits!!!! :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'MeAgain7' Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Yes, there's more to it..... I just didn't feel like adding considerably more detail..... And having to read arguments as a result ;-) To answer your question... No... I don't have a 100% success rate..:. nobody does, not even a woman masturbating can say she does long-term.... but..... I don't define success by orgasms. DG - Posted from rhpmobile Sorry, I disagreed with you in the last post I commented in... and I have to here, also. Women having the same physical anatomy and 'bits and pieces' has nothing to do with what they 'should be' capable of or not. Shit... Sex is a very complicated and personal thing and no-one can claim any particular method, formula or anything else, is anything near a 'sure-fire' way to achieve anything. It's all FAR too complicated and so many aspects (physical and psychological) are constantly in play (for both men and women)... In fact, I THINK women are more complicated than men in so many ways... We don't have much hope of surety in anything... At least, not anything we can apply to any more than one specific woman that we get to know very well over quite some time. ...... because if you look at all of my comments in both topics..... you'll see.... you are actually agreeing with me. Ive highlighted the important bit of my quoted comment, which proves that.... and repeated the comment below Quoting 'Mischeviouslad'.......there is more going on during sex than simple physical stimulation, or psychological positioning... but at times a complex combination of the two in varying and changing degrees. DG
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RHP User
11 years ago
.....there is more going on during sex than simple physical stimulation, or psychological positioning... but at times a complex combination of the two in varying and changing degrees. DG Does that include utter revulsion? And wanting to gag at the prospect?
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' OP... if you take the time with a masterful lover who knows how to properly engage and guide you past the "quick fix" and towards a higher level of seeking pleasure and not just release..... you'll get there. Practice makes perfect. DG Ill make you cum with the mere utterance of one word. But between that word and your attitude now will be a lot of association.
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RHP User
11 years ago
DG, what is the point? Sometimes your body will react to stimulus automatically even if our hearts are not in it? Yes.... like I said I can be totally disengaged and I can still make myself cum, As for your example.... same for men.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Now..... shall we get back to the topic... the discussion.... the opportunity to share and learn..... How we (as offered by the OP) effectively train ourselves to respond...... ...and how we aim to break that pattern.....
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RHP User
11 years ago
Twitchme, my theory is that I need to masturbate in different ways, and err... strum rhythms and different positions so that I learn to come in different ways. But I am too freakin lazy. If I am really really horny okay, but usually you just want to strum a few quick ones out so it is easier just to go to what you know will work. Maybe we an set ourselves a task. How about for the next month we masturbate in different positions and never our usually position, and report back here to see how we went?
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RHP User
11 years ago
Sounds like a plan! I might try standing up first :) this should be fun! :D
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RHP User
11 years ago
Standing up, whilst facing north and I will use my middle finger. :-)
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RHP User
11 years ago
is what I usually use...so index finger it is! Facing north at what degree? ;) 64° sounds good?
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RHP User
11 years ago
OP I ponder the question as to whether you've tried vaginal penetration with said pencil in your ass? Let's not devalue the role of the pencil? Aka reverse Mr Squiggle style. Either way I hope you find some answers. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
I'm hiding my pencils Mag!!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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happy0450
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Twitchme, my theory is that I need to masturbate in different ways, and err... strum rhythms and different positions so that I learn to come in different ways. But I am too freakin lazy. If I am really really horny okay, but usually you just want to strum a few quick ones out so it is easier just to go to what you know will work. Maybe we an set ourselves a task. How about for the next month we masturbate in different positions and never our usually position, and report back here to see how we went? I think I speak for others when I say, weekly or even daily would be more than acceptable to many of us. I guess also, these always that favourite of some guys, try using your other hand
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RHP User
11 years ago
Claims that most women can't orgasm without clitoral stimulation and in fact that vaginal orgasms are still clitoral as the clitoris is much larger than the little nub under the hood. Personally I have come twice from penetration only, both times when I was pregnant funnily enough. For the remainder of my life I have needed clitoral stimulation to orgasm. I will add that clit only orgasms are nowhere near as powerful as those that involve penetration as well.
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RHP User
11 years ago
for me i started having sex at an early age but could'nt achieve an orgasm and it was'nt until i started masturbating that i finally blew my first load. but these days i find it hard to climax at the same time as the w - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
can't do it, I get jelly legs
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RHP User
11 years ago
sorry my phone uploaded the last comment before i could finish typing :/ woman i'm sleeping with at the time and i have never actually cum inside a woman whether it be whilst wearing a condom or not. the only way i can seem to blow is when the woman in question has climaxed and i havd to pull out and finish myself off all over them :/ - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
OMG I did the teddy nose thing too!!!! I really thought I was the only one haha so much love for you posting this but it went further for me from a very young age!!! I went to a very small country school and had 2 best girlfriends, with whom I used to pash on a regular basis during those 'mummy/daddy' kind of games! I guess that might be ok? But what I really remember is taking it way beyond with one if them! I recall her being in my bed and I'm talking early primary school, naked and fully pashing, rubbing our little v-jay jays together till..."that felt so good and now I have no idea why we did that"! Hell, such a confusing time!!! I must have clitoral stimulation to orgasm! Which is kinda weird since it's the non face to face positions that I love the most! That being said, and while I'll cum easily with friction from his pubic bone against me (time and time again), I don't have to orgasm to feel satisfied. I do find that if I use a vibe on my clit to much, it dulls the pleasure from regular sex so I'll only use it occasionally but if all else fails for you OP, just invest in a butterfly and allow yourself to cum freely while he penetrates you :) whatever works right xo - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Oh Mr Squiggle...what a fantasy with that big....hard..pointy....and long pencil of his...;) Yes I have tried vaginal penetration with also a toy in my butt. It feels ok and I get wet...but nothing awesome starts happening until my clit is stimulated as well... I actually did an experiment and had both toys hitting my gspot without touching my clit...nothing much happened...I put my vibe on my clit and it felt amazing...took it off...felt not much....put it back on and within a few seconds I was cumming... Hmmmm back to experimenting ;)
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RHP User
11 years ago
My post didn't make it so let's try that again... That totally deserves a high five! :) I had a massive crush on my best friend and would lay next to her in bed at sleepovers wet and turned on wondering what on earth was happening to me haha but it didn't go any further than that...although I do have some other stories ;) I have many toys but have not tried the butterfly, thanks for the tip! :) It's awesome to know there's someone out there who used teddy bear!!! :D
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RHP User
11 years ago
I imagine toys are fairly common for a girls first masturbation experience. For me it was my barbie doll... ;-)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Maybe that teddy bear could star in Ted 2!!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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Force_of_Nurture
11 years ago
... remember that very first time .. .. when sliding down a pole (not a euphemism) .. at school .. for fun .. became something just a little bit more.. ?
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RHP User
11 years ago
The poor thing got very worn out and unfortunately had to be thrown away...perhaps I should get a new teddy friend and see if it still works ;)
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RHP User
11 years ago
In my experience women can come from vaginal sex when on top and can be in control but their best orgasm are achieved by both vaginal and clitoral stimulation. Depending on the position some times that means the female must have to do the clitoral stimulation herself. To feel a women come rely hard is rewarding for a man even if she has had to help herself to get there. Much better than a partner losing interest and start reading a smartphone during sex.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I know look like a teddy bear and when I have rubbed my nose or tongue against a girls clitoris usually has the desired outcome. I am also self cleaning so no washing machine needed
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RHP User
11 years ago
I wonder why? Do you think it's because you've only cum from masturbation and are therefore wired to cum that way...is your mind stopping you from being able to cum? Either way, that is interesting...perhaps try some new techniques next time and see how you go? I am personally trying to achieve an orgasm from intercourse alone without touching myself, on a mission! ;)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Nope also got jelly legs and had to sit down haha
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RHP User
11 years ago
Now I'm trying to imagine what you did with your barbie hehe ;)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Picture her knees doing just what teddy's nose did ;-)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Enjoyed the read thanks all! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Absorbing inthekiss' first post - seems an unthinkable & terrible personal experience has understandably generated a perceptive reaction to DGs initial broadly generic initial post. Inthekiss hope youre feeling ok. From where im sitting hope u may appreciate DG wasn't directing his post that way. Btw nice pics too - hmmmm im such a fan of older.... HOWEVER on topic - twitchy i had similar experience (no not a teddy!) all those years ago. And i do agree with the repetitive Pavlov's dogs learned behavior posts. So understand ur outcum! I think & pardon the ostensible self promoting analogy -but SENSUALITY essentially is the opposing sensation. I actually really do believe that its the answer - ive thought along similar lines as you. Good luck princess. SD
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RHP User
11 years ago
First of all...what a rhp name! ;) I think you're onto something there... I will share that it's through sensuality that I have come closest to having some amazing feelings radiating throughout my body with penetration alone... This time round I haven't met anyone with such electric chemistry as yet :) but perhaps there was the answer all along... look within and you shall find your answer... I think I actually secretly crave sensuality... when did people turn into robots though? ;) By the way...no crown here...just sexy tracky dacks :P
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RHP User
11 years ago
Thanks for all the responses everyone...certainly been interesting! Xxx
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