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Do you really have to lie????

March 12 2013

Come on guys do you really have to lie????Why can't you just be honest.Just recently I am coming across so many guys that lie on their profiles and in personThey lie about their marital status, they lie about their name, they lie about where they liveIs this what RHP is all about?The thrill of living a lieHave just found out a guy I have been seeing on and off for over a year and half has been seeing another woman for three years. Some of what he said to both of us was truth but the rest he has lied about.Another one has separated on his profile after I had seen him a few times he slipped up and it came out that he was still "In a loving and strong" marriage with his wife

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    when you have sex as the motivator, some people, no...make that 'many' people just cant help themselves. men/women will lie, manipulate, manufacture and deceive....just on the chance they might be even considered as an option...... dont be surprised, its a fact..... sex does that to people, and the ones who have no qualms about being deceitful and dishonest will always be out there, waiting, lurking, and ready to pounce.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    If it starts with a lie it's over.   Seriously if you have any intention of meeting people then there needs to be some honesty or you will be kicked out the door real fast. Of course if you just want to get your rocks off on line........then lie to your hearts content. Because most people will see thru you pretty quick.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Sorry to hear it went on that long. Personally I usually use a false name and don't give my personal address or work because really you're meeting complete strangers! I let them know the truth if I begin to trust them, but I've come across enough crazies to be careful.Some people want a secret life away from their real life. And some people have a lot to lose if their rhp lives were noticed by people they know.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    its easy....one of the most attractive qualities a person can have, is their ability to be honest. and perhaps the most unnatractive is when a person is discovered to be a liar......for whatever reason or excuse.... its a violation of trust and respect in our eyes.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Birth, death, taxes and people lie. For me, the key has beenhow I let that affect me and how I relate to people. Each time someone lies to me, I get that little bit better at detecting lies in others. The most important lesson I've learned is that it's their problem, not mine. It's actually kinda sad really that someone has to lie to get you in the sack. Screams of poor self esteem to me. NEXT!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    I wish we could name & shame , there is no excuse what so ever to lie to some one for 3 years or even a week for that matter .. i went with my gut, something i will always do from now on , but it makes it hard to trust the decent guys that r on here ..i'm sure their all not like that ..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Lying is hard work. One lie typically needs to be followed up with another, then another. It gets harder to maintain credibility all the time. The liar is bound to introduce some inconsistency at some point, either because they can't think quick enough, or because they simply forget the details. Speaking of details, made up stories have a lot less of them.So you just need to ask questions. It doesn't need to be an interrogation, but gently prod for more details or dig a little deeper. The inconsistencies will soon appear, and inconsistencies in situations like this are like the tips of icebergs.Mr C

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Quoting 'blond_gypsy'Sorry to hear it went on that long. Personally I usually use a false name and don't give my personal address or work because really you're meeting complete strangers! I let them know the truth if I begin to trust them, but I've come across enough crazies to be careful.Some people want a secret life away from their real life. And some people have a lot to lose if their rhp lives were noticed by people they know. Their virginity And yes it can be a tad embarrassing when the preacher looks down and points and with a booming voice says be gone unclean woman, I saw you on rhp....oooops! nut jobs , hell yeah like Rhp is Disneyland for the married, the committed relationships, for the girls with the ego bigger than my sense of self importance.... Its a sex site and you expect honesty? hard dicks and wet pussy have no moral compass, unless your the the the pious ones of rhp.     and they mostly just write on the forums, and not so much meeting people off-line as that way the moral compass can stay right on point as you don’t have to deal with the frailty of human nature. The internet allows us to be liars. People lie for one reason, to get what they want out of you. I don’t care as I only open my legs to them, not my emotions or my life.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Its not just men,the amount of women I have met in person that are at least 20kgs heaviers, and 3 decades older, and then see the tan lines on the ring finger....not cool

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    People will hear, well in this case, read what they want to read, even if it isn't there. How many times have you found out someone has been lying to you, yet in hindsight you reread the messages, the emails and find all the clues there. You just ignored all the signs because you wanted to believe the person is truthful.   I always try to adhere to the rule "if she is too good to believe then she is probably a fake" lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Hornycat072' I wish we could name & shame , there is no excuse what so ever to lie to some one for 3 years or even a week for that matter .. i went with my gut, something i will always do from now on , but it makes it hard to trust the decent guys that r on here ..i'm sure their all not like that .. Yes Hornycat... pity we can't name and shame!!!! But you and I know who he is NOW.....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    If a guy was from RHP and I saw him on and off for 3yrs before finding out that he saw another woman as well or several? Or okay he "lied"? I would think he was pretty normal for his demographic which is, a single male on a sex site! Put it this way? Let's take it to a court of law and run it up the flag pole, "But Your Honour? I met him on a sex site and saw him on and off for 3yrs and then found out he was seeing another woman! He Lied!" *gasps and frowns from the gallery*. Yes, guilty as charged!But why is everyone grinning and saying, "I told you so!"?Sounds kind of silly doesn't it? (and No, I'm not making fun of you but simply re-framing it for you.) You cannot hold anything over a guys head if he is just your NSA. Similarly, you can't expect any real honesty from someone who is not committed to you or married to you. Because, let's face it, other than for health reasons, is it really any of your business what he does in his sex life? That's the whole point of NSA and don't men know it! Maybe you could look at it in a deeper way and use the experience to assess how you sit with an arrangement like that in your future. (I know what it is like when you discover that a guy is a habitual liar. I came across one recently and he didn't even realise he was doing it because he had learnt early in childhood that the lie got him what he wanted and it always served to show him in the best possible light, ie approval. It was all about saving face, not rocking the boat, being seen as being 'nice', no one is the wiser so it won't matter? All that kinda gear!) If you think it felt bad being lied to? Imagine how your NSA guy felt trying to keep up with all his own bullshit? Men like that will always lie because they can! It suits them and it works for them! Just look at it all as a gift because it's a turning point for you. See it as, you're no longer prepared to be deceived by a man! Which can only come about when you are prepared to be honest with yourself and what you want and that's a good place to be. You watch! From now on you will be tuning in and avoiding all the liars left, right and centre!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    the RHP theme song...with apologies to Alicia...should be '''These pants are on fire''

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    If you knew they were attached would you have slept with them? , If the answer is no...then there is your answer on why they lied! . if the answer is yes...then I'm buggered why they would lie! xFunlovingx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    When I was 16 I met up with a guy who kept changing his age. I should have seen that as a warning sign but stupidly I trusted him. He ended up being 40 years old (which is old for a 16 year old!) he stunk, he was sleazy and he drove a white van lol. I learnt my lesson very early on in the peace how to spot the liars, although some still slip through the cracks. Life is for living so why live a lie... it's cowardly and disrespectful.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Quoting 'tuscanred' Quoting 'blond_gypsy'Sorry to hear it went on that long. Personally I usually use a false name and don't give my personal address or work because really you're meeting complete strangers! I let them know the truth if I begin to trust them, but I've come across enough crazies to be careful.Some people want a secret life away from their real life. And some people have a lot to lose if their rhp lives were noticed by people they know. Their virginity And yes it can be a tad embarrassing when the preacher looks down and points and with a booming voice says be gone unclean woman, I saw you on rhp....oooops! nut jobs , hell yeah like Rhp is Disneyland for the married, the committed relationships, for the girls with the ego bigger than my sense of self importance.... Its a sex site and you expect honesty? hard dicks and wet pussy have no moral compass, unless your the the the pious ones of rhp.     and they mostly just write on the forums, and not so much meeting people off-line as that way the moral compass can stay right on point as you don’t have to deal with the frailty of human nature. The internet allows us to be liars. People lie for one reason, to get what they want out of you. I don’t care as I only open my legs to them, not my emotions or my life. I have got to wonder what a minister is doing on RHP. Never mind, it is not for me to judge and better to meet adults than children. Except for my name (no, my parents were not crazy enough to call me zu7bcv), everything on my profile is true. My listed suburb is not where I live but where I work. So, does the truth help in meeting people? Heck no. Why don't I just lie then? I have too many things to think about and trying to keep my stories straight is just too much effort for me. I can't slip up my story when telling the truth.

  • enduran

    enduran

    13 years ago

    I find it way too hard to lie...you have to keep track of all the alternative things you say and then you end up in a mess. So much easier to just say the truth and hope that people dont judge you for it. Probably also gets me into trouble once in a while, not everyone likes honesty ;-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Sorry OP to read what happened to you. There are so many horror stories I read on here about people saying they are not who they say they are. It happens..they lie because they can.. As long as you are true to yourself and true to your profile....to me that says a lot... The most attractive thing another can have is Honesty....that will attract like minded. Boy-oh-Boy have I learnt a lot on this site...and it's not just men either that will lie...people will bait and bait just to get a thrill...It's all about the thrill..eventually they will get caught and all will be exposed. One lie leads to another...its an addiction for them. People do it because they are not happy and want to cover something up-hide behind a mask.. Quite Vandictive... With ALL the people I have met from here one thing they do is thank me for my honesty and that its a pleasure that they've eventually met someone who says who they are. How sad is that when I meet people and they say that they've been taken for a ride by others. Keep your chin up OP don't let one bad egg spoil it for you. Foxy- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Again I say............ welcome to the wonderful world of Advertising.And a profile is a form of advertising of one self.But because this site is pushing a certain angle, and the guys I here feel they need to be at the "competition".... that pushes the ego into embellishment..........but the guys are not alone. Women lie.... they just do it better...lolDG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Depends on what committment that person has made to you and what committment you think you have really. If there is no true commitment then most will lie. Mr was the biggest player when I met him. Once he committed then the gloves were off and lying was not allowed. There should be no secrets in a good relationship. Somone who is truly committed will allow you to get into every aspect of thier lives and share everything. Anything less is a farce. He let me play games and access his FB, he let me access his emails to run errands for him and he also put me on all of his adult site profiles and changed them to a couples profile. If they want a relationship they will live as a couple and not continue to live as a single person. There is no grey area in this. Because of the life he led I would not accept anything less as I am worth the truth and so is every other woman out there willing to give herself to a man and I guess same for men to with lying women. Once he realised it was be honest with me or hit the road he then proceeded to delete the 100's of temptations from his contact lists and I never asked him to do that. Mr had been in the swinging lifestyle for nearly 20 years without truly committing to anyone before me. He was one of those men that lied I guess and tried it with me for the first few weeks. Go with your gut feelings which are usually correct. he now admits I was right. Once you spot that then you can work around it and work towards honesty. Never accept anything less. if they dont share everything then they are not truly committed and there is then room for lies. Why would you give yourself any more to someone that lies. If he continues to lie after you have considered that its sorted then turf that man and move on. Lifes too short so stand firm on what you want from a partner and he/she will see that you mean business and if they want you in thier lives they will have to do the right thing.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Men lie for the same reason dogs lick their balls. BECAUSE THEY CAN!! But its not just men that lie, women do too. Everyone has they're own reason why they lie. Some acceptable, some not.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Again I say............ welcome to the wonderful world of Advertising.And a profile is a form of advertising of one self.But because this site is pushing a certain angle, and the guys I here feel they need to be at the "competition".... that pushes the ego into embellishment..........but the guys are not alone. Women lie.... they just do it better...lolDG DG, good advertisements do not lie about their product. After all, if the product is bad, people will find out easily and no matter how well the subsequent advert, no one will buy the product. Brand damage has been done. Ads should highlight the best points and benefits instead of trying to be something else. "Fools follow a perverse path, clothing their well-formed naked body, yet never thinking to conceal their deformed mind" - Tirukural verse 846

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    I have recently been involved with a guy that lied to me from the beginning starting with his profile where he stated he was single. After a month or so of emails (day, night, weekends) and a meet and hook up I was still in the dark about his being married. It would be another few weeks before he told me the 'truth' which in fact turned out to only be part of the truth. In hindsight if I had known he was married at the beginning I would never have gotten involved. I just wish I could name and shame him on here to save anyone else going thru the same pain I did. All I can tell you is that he is from Melb and travels a lot for work.... as stated in his profile!I have never understood the need to lie about being married on a site such as this, there are enough women (and men) out there happy to play with someone who is married. I thought I could trust this guy as I had shared very personal details with him and to find out after nearly 2 months that he had lied, well that was a major kick in the guts. Stupidly I let him back into my life and gave him a degree of trust (as he promised never to lie to me again) only to find out that he lied again...and again. I eventually caught him out and now have taken that experience and used it as a learning tool on how not to get played again. Everyone says go with your gut and it is true. Go with your first instinct as I think it will save you a great deal of pain and wasted time. Only wish I had taken my own advice!!Thankfully I have come to find that not everyone on here lies to get laid....some men (and women) are fully capable of telling the truth, its just a case of determining the liars in the bunch.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Quoting 'zu7bcv' DG, good advertisements do not lie about their product. After all, if the product is bad, people will find out easily and no matter how well the subsequent advert, no one will buy the product. Brand damage has been done. Ads should highlight the best points and benefits instead of trying to be something else.True..... but not always realistic. And Im sure if you scan enough profiles in here.... you'll agree.DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    That you're funny but you're really, really boring lying?

  • WHY_NOT_LOOK

    WHY_NOT_LOOK

    13 years ago

    I hate lies as stated on my profile. If someone is lying there not giving the other person a choice so then what happens when you get an std or have a partner that doesn't know?? I might already know your partner or your sharing and not caring.. Someone in carins today went to court over unprotected sex while he has hpv is it a lie or is it attempted murder? No lie is a good lie- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Lying to women is one of the stupidest things a man can do!! Women in general read body language much better than men. They may not realise you were lying, but they will usually spot that your body language is not congruent with your thoughts & actions. Then end result - rejection. You don't need to impress women to pick them up... actually not trying to impress them works much better! ... & if you're just looking for fun!! The funny thing is, most women, even when they say "Only looking for a relationship" - if they're attracted & you hold your stance "Fun" watch them back track! I love pulling the piss out of women who back track & change there minds!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    EVERYBODY lies, the big difference is whether the lies are self serving or to save someone from hurt! I doubt that anyone that has ever written a profile has ever been completely honest yet they will, in all probability, have had someone in their life that has loved them warts n all! I read a story about someone who strayed and was so wracked with guilt that they confessed to their partner. They would have never done it again n it was love that brought about the confession. The marriage collapsed n there were no winners especially the kids. When the person took counselling the shrink said.... " if it was a one off then u should have kept your gob shut!" Not sure I agree but it does give pause for thought!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    More like pathetic this site lets u explore what u really want why would u lie!!!!does not make sense the person lieing is showing there true colours this is what they will do forever they lie to themselves they dont know what they want !!!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    I'm just upfront and honest because at the end of day if you do get a chance to hook up , Your the one who's going to look silly .

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel' when you have sex as the motivator, some people, no...make that 'many' people just cant help themselves. men/women will lie, manipulate, manufacture and deceive....just on the chance they might be even considered as an option...... dont be surprised, its a fact..... sex does that to people, and the ones who have no qualms about being deceitful and dishonest will always be out there, waiting, lurking, and ready to pounce. P.S Very sexy profile pic!! Beautiful!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    "WOW" ....... That is pretty low ... why would you spend that much time on getting to know a lady only to do that to her and if you didn't like her or want to spend time with her why go to so much effort play with her mind .... dont stuff it for us honest blokes ..........Quoting 'submissivegalgc' I have recently been involved with a guy that lied to me from the beginning starting with his profile where he stated he was single. After a month or so of emails (day, night, weekends) and a meet and hook up I was still in the dark about his being married. It would be another few weeks before he told me the 'truth' which in fact turned out to only be part of the truth. In hindsight if I had known he was married at the beginning I would never have gotten involved. I just wish I could name and shame him on here to save anyone else going thru the same pain I did. All I can tell you is that he is from Melb and travels a lot for work.... as stated in his profile!I have never understood the need to lie about being married on a site such as this, there are enough women (and men) out there happy to play with someone who is married. I thought I could trust this guy as I had shared very personal details with him and to find out after nearly 2 months that he had lied, well that was a major kick in the guts. Stupidly I let him back into my life and gave him a degree of trust (as he promised never to lie to me again) only to find out that he lied again...and again. I eventually caught him out and now have taken that experience and used it as a learning tool on how not to get played again. Everyone says go with your gut and it is true. Go with your first instinct as I think it will save you a great deal of pain and wasted time. Only wish I had taken my own advice!!Thankfully I have come to find that not everyone on here lies to get laid....some men (and women) are fully capable of telling the truth, its just a case of determining the liars in the bunch.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    All people lie. For what reason it does not matter. The first lady i meet from RHP many years ago lied so much that when we finally meet I was ready to run, almost gave up on online dating there and then (thank god i did not). But lying is difficult and you will always get caught out. It depends on whether you can forgive or not. A lover I have lies all the time, I don't believe hardly a word she utters, but I forgive her and do not care, as I enjoy her company and at times she has provided support beyond expectation. Others have lied and I have stood up and left never to see them again.So OP maybe you should re-access why you should find the lies so hurtful. Were the lies designed to hurt you, protect you, to be someone they are not, etc... Can you forgive, or not.. Then i have to ask who here has never lied. Best to understand why people lie then berate the fact they did.