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D&D free - why mention being drug free?
March 15 2011
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RHP User
15 years ago
being open about use on another site led to many instant dismissals. on here it came up once and led to sharing in more ways than one lol. intravenus drug use you should have to disclose because of the risk you pose. these days there's a chance of drug and alcohol testing at work and failure can lead to a $5k fine and instant dismissal so yeah, no takey takey.what people do doesn't botehr me, as you said tho, intravenus is a whole different kettle of fish.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I deplore the use of illicit drugs as well as the abuse of prescription medications for recreational purposes. And if I suspect a client is under the influence of any drugs I refuse to do the session.What people do in their own homes is their business and if they want to abuse their bodies then that is their choice. Personally I prefer to get high on life.
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RHP User
15 years ago
and I happen to think a risque response from me... I am not a drug taker unless you consider alcohol as one and that is whole new debate eg. how often etc la la la (and not dismissing it) someone who uses illicit drugs.. some of them I would consider to be careful people in 'normal' life however what are their activities whilst under the influence? but isn't that the same as being under the influence of alcohol... do they partake is risky sex... so who really knows if they are disease free??? scenario... meet someone and you decide to have sex with them.. you are under the influence of a substance either illicit or not... apart from the obvious festering signs ugh the hands over eyes... you have sex... when did you ask for the day to day blood check? from speaking with my friends.. most dont have protected sex.. in the heat of the moment when you have gone out and met someone and had a great time it is after the event that you think .. oh we should have used protection... another problem is... you actually think you might have wanted to see that person more... when do you both go and get checked? the damage done the first night and then you start using protection??? I know my comments all over the place.. but it is what 'real' life is... another conumdrum... sighs
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RHP User
15 years ago
And not too keen on being with someone who is. Some of these things can be a little unpredictable and I do want to survive the date. People can do what they want in thier own time and place but pease...not in my time. I am not even too keen on men who drink too much alcohol, smoke too many cigarettes.
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RHP User
15 years ago
aThanks L_and_B for your honest and therefore very valuable response. It sounds like you're in a fairly tightly regulated industry. Thank you for registering your opinion. If I read you correctly, you vote that you don't mind which drugs potential playmates use, so long as they're not intravenous. . Thanks for your opinion, MistressT. In the words of comedian Arj Barker, "I used to get high on life, but then I built up a tolerance." ;) . Thanks also aniceone71. This topic is complex enough. For simplicity's sake I'm only talking about illicit, that is, illegal drugs. Alcohol, while a drug, is a legal one and a whole topic on its own. MistressT made a good point that I skirted around intentionally in my original post - some prescription drugs can be misused also. Therefore legal but still potentially harmful. All a bit too complex. What I'm asking is the illegal sort especially. . And thanks fionabee. You're quite right that illicit drugs can make people unpredictable. You seem to be alluding to violence, where amphetamines are the main offender. It seems consistent that you wouldn't want to meet men who abuse the legal drugs of alcohol or nicotene either. . Now, a question for those who said that what people do in their own time is their own business. What if a person says that they use illicit drugs, for argument's sake let's say marijuana, but they agree to abstain from it on a night they meet with you. Are they eliminated from consideration on principle or are they considered?
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RHP User
15 years ago
My marriage broke up because my husband chose marijuana instead of his family. If you use, you lose! It's as simple as that for me. Makes no difference if they stop for one night, they are still drug users.
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RHP User
15 years ago
My marriage broke up because my husband chose marijuana instead of his family. If you use, you lose! It's as simple as that for me. Makes no difference if they stop for one night, they are still drug users.
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RHP User
15 years ago
You sound like one of these university probes assembling information and data for some case study. The Topic being Narcotic Illicit Activity and Preferences of Sex Site Participants. . "Take a Hike" slippery_halo
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yeah Ice/swinger party at mine...? hmmmm To all the police officers that was sacrasm... There are sooooooo many risks in life everyday, you leave your house, there are cars to crash, pedestrians and cyclsts to collide, diseases to catch from many of lifes situations aside from sex, unless you have a test between EACH partner, you may think you are disease free when you are not! There are freaks and fakers trying to match your profile but are actually some fictious perve that has been lieing to you to get into your pants. Drug users aren't necesserily drug abusers/addicts! I believe the key to life is to try different things, but not spend your life just doing one or two things, one can get addicted pretty much to anything these days! Gym junkies, workaholics, OCD Cleaning obsessed, foodaholics, sexaholics, blah blah etc Each to their own I say, everyone handles things differently, I personally know heaps of successful well balanced people, that did, do or might try what ever they are curious about. LIke I said everything poses a risk, but you can choose your approach to trying the new? Jumping out of a plane, climbing a glacier, racing a moterbike, having elective surgery, having sex where the protection may fail or blood transfer by some accident, this could include saving someones life or trying a new drug? Lets all stay home in a bubble (hoping a natural disaster doesn't wash away/burn down/blow over/blow up our house!!)
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RHP User
15 years ago
I dont take drugs anymore...although did in the past.Now i just drink..and only when I go out...maybe once a month or so.I dont mind if someone uses drugsoccasionally.BUTI cant handle people who cant function...or wont even try to function....without a cone...or a pill....the second they wake up.But then again...Im the same with drinking.I dont mind it recreationally...just tell me so I know what to doin case anything goes pearshaped.OH....and dont blame your bad behaviour on the drink or drugs.If you know you carry on...dont use them.JMO...BJxxx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Miss BJ has it spot on each to there own while we dont condone hard drugs so called party drugs are a different story. They are not different to someone who drinks just the politicians have decided to make them illegal. Over use is something different as is over use of alcohol.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I have to admit here that i am a drug addict and have been for the last 30 or so years..... I have tried on numerous occasions to give up, but find that i just cant resist it...I need a fix first thing in the morning, and continue to administer drugs throughtout the day...With out them i would be a total mess..... If i develop a craving i will drive anywhere at all hours to oobtain it..and i often will go for several days on end in a drug induced haze.... I was first introduced to drugs as a young boy by my brother..who gave me a bit, and said i should never touch them again...but the high it gave me made it irresistable... I spend many thousands of dollars ever year, and will often sustitute it for food...:( My drug of dependance is Caffeine,,i just cant resist coffee, coke, chocolate, tea..etc..I mean i have tried Caffeine free coke, but its just not the same...I need help......
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RHP User
15 years ago
The use of caffeine does not cause you to lose control of your senses and become a danger behind the wheel of a car or cause you enough anger to bash someone half to death for no other reason than you were under the influence. Unlike tobacco or other drugs that need to be smoked, your habit does not affect me or my lungs. Your drug induced state by use of caffeine does not cause you to engage in risky pursuits that endanger the lives of others. Nor is it likely to cause your behaviour to deteriorate to the point where you become a nuisance in a public place and end up sexually assaulting women. Your cravings are relatively easy to assuage with a visit to the local cafe or late night servo. You do not need to steal to support your habit. And it is highly unlikely you will end up homeless and sponging off welfare agencies.Unlike other drugs your habit is relatively easy to kick. Just have one less dose per day until you find a level you are comfortable with.
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RHP User
15 years ago
since it's always linked with 'disease free' i consider it as the person stating they are are low risk in terms of infection. still just an empty statement tho.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Maxking2010' I have to admit here that i am a drug addict and have been for the last 30 or so years..... I have tried on numerous occasions to give up, but find that i just cant resist it...I need a fix first thing in the morning, and continue to administer drugs throughtout the day...With out them i would be a total mess..... If i develop a craving i will drive anywhere at all hours to oobtain it..and i often will go for several days on end in a drug induced haze.... I was first introduced to drugs as a young boy by my brother..who gave me a bit, and said i should never touch them again...but the high it gave me made it irresistable... I spend many thousands of dollars ever year, and will often sustitute it for food...:( My drug of dependance is Caffeine,,i just cant resist coffee, coke, chocolate, tea..etc..I mean i have tried Caffeine free coke, but its just not the same...I need help...... Mr.Max, shame on you.... I am soooooo disappointed to hear that you are so weak. I expected better from you... I am going to have to block you now... I simply cannot associate myself with defective types such as yourself, I am better than that. But first i just gotta finish my dooby and get rid of the piles of powder b4 the toddlers slumber party tonight, do u think they'd prefer Bacardi Breezers or Smirnoff Blacks?? Oh one last question, which plate of brownies were the hash ones, the ones in the fridge or pantry? i’ll be pissed off if the kids scoffed them all!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'MistressT'The use of caffeine does not cause you to lose control of your senses and become a danger behind the wheel of a car or cause you enough anger to bash someone half to death for no other reason than you were under the influence. Unlike tobacco or other drugs that need to be smoked, your habit does not affect me or my lungs. Your drug induced state by use of caffeine does not cause you to engage in risky pursuits that endanger the lives of others. Nor is it likely to cause your behaviour to deteriorate to the point where you become a nuisance in a public place and end up sexually assaulting women. Your cravings are relatively easy to assuage with a visit to the local cafe or late night servo. You do not need to steal to support your habit. And it is highly unlikely you will end up homeless and sponging off welfare agencies. Unlike other drugs your habit is relatively easy to kick. Just have one less dose per day until you find a level you are comfortable with.It ain't pretty, let me tell you, by the 23rd hour I had to gag him! Then punish him....
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RHP User
15 years ago
..as in narcotics - hate 'em. Don't care if it's a so-called party drug, or something harder. Party drug is a misnomer anyway - to me, it makes it sound like somebody's trying to justify their use. Alcohol - don't get me started. I've been on the receiving end of some bad experiences with people who had real issues. To this day, I get gunshy around people who are drinking too much - that includes my friends - and I think that my sense are heightened to behavioural changes and unpredictability that can occur. Do I drink? Yes. Not often, and not much. Does that make me a hypocrite? I don't think so, but your mileage may vary....My own vices...well, I smoke. It's an addiction, not an illness, just the same as heroin addiction is not an illness. Only I can make the decision to quit. When that's going to happen....not going to speculate....but it will.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'BoobaliciousFG' Quoting 'Maxking2010' I have to admit here that i am a drug addict and have been for the last 30 or so years..... I have tried on numerous occasions to give up, but find that i just cant resist it...I need a fix first thing in the morning, and continue to administer drugs throughtout the day...With out them i would be a total mess..... If i develop a craving i will drive anywhere at all hours to oobtain it..and i often will go for several days on end in a drug induced haze.... I was first introduced to drugs as a young boy by my brother..who gave me a bit, and said i should never touch them again...but the high it gave me made it irresistable... I spend many thousands of dollars ever year, and will often sustitute it for food...:( My drug of dependance is Caffeine,,i just cant resist coffee, coke, chocolate, tea..etc..I mean i have tried Caffeine free coke, but its just not the same...I need help...... Mr.Max, shame on you.... I am soooooo disappointed to hear that you are so weak. I expected better from you... I am going to have to block you now... I simply cannot associate myself with defective types such as yourself, I am better than that. But first i just gotta finish my dooby and get rid of the piles of powder b4 the toddlers slumber party tonight, do u think they'd prefer Bacardi Breezers or Smirnoff Blacks?? Oh one last question, which plate of brownies were the hash ones, the ones in the fridge or pantry? i’ll be pissed off if the kids scoffed them all! Please please MS Boobaliciuos..Not the powder..i will do ANYTHING you want...:))) The plate of Hash Brownies..um..ah...i sort of snacked on them..sorry was a bit hungry.. Oh c'mon..Give the kids water or cordial..what am i going to drink??..One other thing, have u got plenty of cold coke in the fridge??
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'BoobaliciousFG' Quoting 'MistressT'The use of caffeine does not cause you to lose control of your senses and become a danger behind the wheel of a car or cause you enough anger to bash someone half to death for no other reason than you were under the influence. Unlike tobacco or other drugs that need to be smoked, your habit does not affect me or my lungs. Your drug induced state by use of caffeine does not cause you to engage in risky pursuits that endanger the lives of others. Nor is it likely to cause your behaviour to deteriorate to the point where you become a nuisance in a public place and end up sexually assaulting women. Your cravings are relatively easy to assuage with a visit to the local cafe or late night servo. You do not need to steal to support your habit. And it is highly unlikely you will end up homeless and sponging off welfare agencies. Unlike other drugs your habit is relatively easy to kick. Just have one less dose per day until you find a level you are comfortable with.It ain't pretty, let me tell you, by the 23rd hour I had to gag him! Then punish him.... Yeh, you made me work hard for 23 bloody hours..next time..please punish me after a few......
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'Maxking2010' I have to admit here that i am a drug addict and have been for the last 30 or so years..... I have tried on numerous occasions to give up, but find that i just cant resist it...I need a fix first thing in the morning, and continue to administer drugs throughtout the day...With out them i would be a total mess..... If i develop a craving i will drive anywhere at all hours to oobtain it..and i often will go for several days on end in a drug induced haze.... I was first introduced to drugs as a young boy by my brother..who gave me a bit, and said i should never touch them again...but the high it gave me made it irresistable... I spend many thousands of dollars ever year, and will often sustitute it for food...:( My drug of dependance is Caffeine,,i just cant resist coffee, coke, chocolate, tea..etc..I mean i have tried Caffeine free coke, but its just not the same...I need help...... Have a cup of coffee and head on home to beat the crap out of your wife and kids maintaining that it was the coffee. "Sorry Your Honour, I was under the influence of coffee"
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'fionabee' Have a cup of coffee and head on home to beat the crap out of your wife and kids maintaining that it was the coffee. "Sorry Your Honour, I was under the influence of coffee" I might beat the crap out of someone if i DIDN'T have coffee that day. "Sorry, Your Honour, I was waiting all day for coffee and he brought me one from St*rb#cks and i can't drink that dishwater-y shit, I HAD to kill him"
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'curiousnewgirl78' Quoting 'fionabee'I might beat the crap out of someone if i DIDN'T have coffee that day. "Sorry, Your Honour, I was waiting all day for coffee and he brought me one from St*rb#cks and i can't drink that dishwater-y shit, I HAD to kill him"I can certainly relate to that
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RHP User
15 years ago
Don't worry, Tonyerotic, I may be a pretentious uni git but I'm not compiling information for any case study. This is my own curiosity. I tend not to do those assignment things, which is why I'm still at uni... It's nice to have one of those rude responses that others get so frequently, though. I was starting to feel left out. . Sorry to hear that your ex-husband chose marijuana over his marriage and family, MistressT. A very good reason to be anti-drug. Addiction is a terrible thing that hurts so many people more than the person with the addiction themselves. I think people who are considering picking up marijuana as a "safe" or "soft" drug would do well to hear stories like yours to see the damage it can do. I saw first hand it causing psychosis in a housemate, where I was honestly afraid the man who used to be my friend was going to stab me. . Hello again BoobaliciousFG. Folks may not say so on this site, for fear others then won't meet them. It seems like that's a valid concern. But I do know many people who use certain drugs and who are "out and proud" about it. They campaign for their legalisation and so on. The fact that this site has so much anonymity would allow them to go nuts, saying that they use marijuana on their profile and invited interested persons over for a smoke-and-grope. Hey, it's another angle and it could work! ;) . So some interesting responses either "side", which is cool. And some people taking the piss, which is always fun. Especially good posts this time. :P But obviously caffeine as a legal and, as we have established, relatively harmless drug is not the sort of thing I'm getting at. I'm particularly interested in marijuana, being a fairly common thing in society amongst some folks, particularly the younger.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Now, a question for those who said that what people do in their own time is their own business. What if a person says that they use illicit drugs, for argument's sake let's say marijuana, but they agree to abstain from it on a night they meet with you. Are they eliminated from consideration on principle or are they considered? If it's just marijuana it wouldn't bother me, i don't use any drugs now but i have used a few different ones in the past and that's one i can live with as long as they're not driving affected or bringing it to my home. i've never experienced anyone first-hand getting aggressive outside their normal personality when only using marijuana. I would still rule out intravenous and certain party drugs if i knew about it as in my experience the effects on personality are more dramatic and can be long-lasting, again this based on my own experience knowing people who were intravenous drug users and having used some party drugs myself in the past.
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RHP User
15 years ago
but for some reason i do actract those that are addicts lol my ex husband was an alcoholic that use to beat me the father of my eldest and the father of my youngest were both adicted to dope plus the father of my youngest is also an alcoholic couldnt leave the house without it one starts work at 3.30am and he never left without having a session first they both chose drugs over our family there is nothing worse than finally getting everyone ready to go somewhere...all the kids in the car, bags packed and you hear "i wont be a minute im just having a smoke"...so there we would all be in the hot car waiting 10 mins for him to finish so we could leave my little ones only go to their dads every second saturday night on the condition he doesnt drink or touch any drugs at all while they are there i have stopped them once because he was doing harder stuff right up until they arrived...so then once they were there he was stoned and coming down...not good for little kids personally i wouldnt go near a man again that does any drugs of any kind or drinks to excess and yes im with RC i do drink sometimes but unlike him when i drink i drink a lot lol...but im also a happy drunk...id be horrified if anyone ever came to me and told me i was aggressive while drinking, id never touch the stuff again roxxy
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RHP User
15 years ago
Drug free means nothing - a friend of mine got very hyper and somewhat manic from being prescribed too high a dose of thyroxin for an under-active thyroid. Besides, when it comes to getting laid, you can assume most people will lie for a shot at the right partner. Disease free only tells you that they didn't have anything when they were tested, so means nothing when you meet them.Q: What's the best thing about an ice habit?A: It's only ever two sleeps until Christmas...
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katie_q
15 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' Drug free means nothing - a friend of mine got very hyper and somewhat manic from being prescribed too high a dose of thyroxin for an under-active thyroid. Besides, when it comes to getting laid, you can assume most people will lie for a shot at the right partner. Disease free only tells you that they didn't have anything when they were tested, so means nothing when you meet them.Q: What's the best thing about an ice habit?A: It's only ever two sleeps until Christmas... We keep harping on about the drug itself, granted that's the point of this topic, but we all know that whether a drug is legal or not depends as much if not more on the political system of the country than its purported effects on the individual. Is there a reason why the legal drinking age in some countries is higher? Is it because 18 year olds in Australia have better adapted livers and less risk of abuse and negligent drinking than 19 and 20 year olds in another part of the world??Yes, the psychoactive effects of some drugs such as marijuana and methamphetamine makes the drug much more risky and likely to cause individual and societal harm, and would justify the support for their illegal status in this country.But what turns people to use drugs in the first place? What turns someone to pick up a drink, or 20? It's already been mentioned here that alcohol is a much greater cause of morbidity and days lost due to illness than all illicit drugs combined. All drugs alter, hinder or enhance some natural physiological process, and for whatever the individual reason, would be why that drug is taken. For some, a stressful day a work might require a few drinks and a cone to wind them down. But no, of course that's not the only or preferred way to manage stress. But what makes that individual chose drugs?I guess what I'm getting at is that it's not always the drug itself, as much as the reason behind why drugs were chosen as the solution in the first place. For people who have a predisposition to violence, compulsion, addiction, their outcome from drug use (whether it is legal or illegal) would be much greater than in someone without these risk factors. It differentiates those who chose to resort to drugs to dull pain/cope with stress/enhance mood from those who are "drug free".People are less likely to be convinced by things like a traumatic childhood, abuse by a relative growing up or environmental factors to be the cause of violence or crime over a drunken, drug fueled outburst. It's obviously much harder to prove in a court of law. But what really came first here?...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'kazmd' We keep harping on about the drug itself, granted that's the point of this topic, but we all know that whether a drug is legal or not depends as much if not more on the political system of the country than its purported effects on the individual. Is there a reason why the legal drinking age in some countries is higher? Is it because 18 year olds in Australia have better adapted livers and less risk of abuse and negligent drinking than 19 and 20 year olds in another part of the world??I think it's more societal. I used to live in Canada where the drinking age was 18, but I was only a few hours drive from the US, where it was 21. I wouldn't have thought that genetics differ so much across geographic borders.Yes, the psychoactive effects of some drugs such as marijuana and methamphetamine makes the drug much more risky and likely to cause individual and societal harm, and would justify the support for their illegal status in this country.Really? Meth is unreliable and therefore unpredictable, but I've always considered marijuana to be far less likely to cause societal harm than alcohol. I wouldn't automatically have lumped the two together, despite the fact that I do know people who have had psychotic episodes from marijuana.But what turns people to use drugs in the first place? What turns someone to pick up a drink, or 20? It's already been mentioned here that alcohol is a much greater cause of morbidity and days lost due to illness than all illicit drugs combined. All drugs alter, hinder or enhance some natural physiological process, and for whatever the individual reason, would be why that drug is taken. For some, a stressful day a work might require a few drinks and a cone to wind them down. But no, of course that's not the only or preferred way to manage stress. But what makes that individual chose drugs?Availability? Convenience? Habit? Social circles?I guess what I'm getting at is that it's not always the drug itself, as much as the reason behind why drugs were chosen as the solution in the first place. For people who have a predisposition to violence, compulsion, addiction, their outcome from drug use (whether it is legal or illegal) would be much greater than in someone without these risk factors. It differentiates those who chose to resort to drugs to dull pain/cope with stress/enhance mood from those who are "drug free".I completely agree, but there's also a very large class of recreational drug users. Drug use and an addictive personality certainly do seem to go hand in hand - one need only wander into the pokie room at the local pub and take note of how many of the players are cigarette smokers.People are less likely to be convinced by things like a traumatic childhood, abuse by a relative growing up or environmental factors to be the cause of violence or crime over a drunken, drug fueled outburst. It's obviously much harder to prove in a court of law. But what really came first here?...Are you suggesting that the substances only coax out something that's already in us? As you say it would be hard to prove, but I suspect that in many cases that would be the root cause. Still, people with those issues shouldn't be indulging in substances that will bring out bad behaviour.
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katie_q
15 years ago
Quoting 'Snowshoe' Quoting 'kazmd' Yes, the psychoactive effects of some drugs such as marijuana and methamphetamine makes the drug much more risky and likely to cause individual and societal harm, and would justify the support for their illegal status in this country.Really? Meth is unreliable and therefore unpredictable, but I've always considered marijuana to be far less likely to cause societal harm than alcohol. I wouldn't automatically have lumped the two together, despite the fact that I do know people who have had psychotic episodes from marijuana.Meth actually isn't that unreliable and unpredictable. Albeit much more addictive, but the effects on the body is similar to all other amphetamines - dexamphetamines are prescribed for AD(H)D. Methamphetamine was actually developed in the 60's by the Japanese and was used and legal for a short amount of time (as was cocaine circa. early last century. Coca Cola anyone?). I agree, not everyone will have a psychotic episode with marijuana. Alcohol is much more damaging, but to admit this to the point of placing the same level of restriction on it would probably cost the government in the amount in taxes alcohol provision attracts...People are less likely to be convinced by things like a traumatic childhood, abuse by a relative growing up or environmental factors to be the cause of violence or crime over a drunken, drug fueled outburst. It's obviously much harder to prove in a court of law. But what really came first here?...Are you suggesting that the substances only coax out something that's already in us? As you say it would be hard to prove, but I suspect that in many cases that would be the root cause. Still, people with those issues shouldn't be indulging in substances that will bring out bad behaviour.I think our decision to turn to substances, or what drove us to use substances, illegal or not, plays a greater factor in the outcome a drug will have on the individual, over the effects of the drug itself. Ooohh, I'll let the flaming start on this one...(P.S. Sorry slippery_halo, we seemed to have hijacked this thread...)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'kazmd' Meth actually isn't that unreliable and unpredictable. Albeit much more addictive, but the effects on the body is similar to all other amphetamines - dexamphetamines are prescribed for AD(H)D. Methamphetamine was actually developed in the 60's by the Japanese and was used and legal for a short amount of time (as was cocaine circa. early last century. Coca Cola anyone?).Clinical grade meth is a certainly reliable. My only experience with it has been taking a Ritalin to stay focused for the drive back from Splendour in the Grass last year and it was amazing - total clarity and an unprecedented ability to pay attention to the road without drowsiness. It makes sense, as it's designed for people to take while they live their daily lives. When I think of meth though, I think of ice being cooked up by a dodgy chemist to maximise profit with little regard for the well-being of the taker - that stuff can be very bad news...I agree, not everyone will have a psychotic episode with marijuana. Alcohol is much more damaging, but to admit this to the point of placing the same level of restriction on it would probably cost the government in the amount in taxes alcohol provision attracts...I prefer the other approach - the legalisation, taxing and control over marijuana. I did some research into this topic a few years ago when I was writing (an as yet unfinished :-( ) novel about legalisation. Given the cost to produce it and the current expectations of price to the consumer, the government could reap a huge tax windfall as well as reducing the cost of prosecuting people who are only doing what about 1/3 of everyone else is or has done in the past. It's never going to go away - it's too easy to produce.I think our decision to turn to substances, or what drove us to use substances, illegal or not, plays a greater factor in the outcome a drug will have on the individual, over the effects of the drug itself. Ooohh, I'll let the flaming start on this one...Hmmm, I don't think you'll get any flaming from me. I believe that I started experimenting when I was a kid (13) because it was cool and found that I genuinely liked drugs. (No, it didn't lead me to ever harder drugs, resulting in my ultimate demise.) I think that may be the case for plenty of people, but I agree that for many people, drugs are the symptom of a much deeper and often less apparent problem. When those people step out of reality and they're wound like a spring inside, bad things are more likely to happen. The classic example would have to be the man coming home drunk and beating his wife - there has to be something very wrong in his head, and booze can't be a good thing for that.(P.S. Sorry slippery_halo, we seemed to have hijacked this thread...)I second that, though it had been languishing for a while... :-)
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