M46
Contractual Obligations
December 09 2012
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RHP User
13 years ago
But brave post! Looking forward to some honest thoughts.
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RHP User
13 years ago
A minefield..I think it's important to know, but then again there are those who don't even know. I used to suffer from cold sores when I was a kid, and I still get the occasional one. I make no secret of that..would I play while I have this festering fungus thing on my face?? Hell no, they bloody hurt!!! I feel for you, but one question, and I mean no offence, but why is it YOU exposed yourself to this by playing without protection??
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RHP User
13 years ago
FYI: There is NO safeguards against herpes. (except total abstinence) Do you use a mouthguard when you go down on a girl? do you wear industrial grade latex gloves when you are TOUCHING her? or... you go down on her.. you kisss her then... and she goes down on you? I am lead to believe that if you go the "Grope" on someone, then go home and have a decent wank, you can get it. I am told you can get it from toilets, but, that may be denied. I have a close friend, whos brother got it from a mutual friend.. The brother got into a permanent relationship with FULL disclosure.. and they did EVERYTHING with the virus in mind.. and more.. she recently got her first outbreak. I have a dear friend who got it anally.. from a cheating husband... She discloses every time.. even though her Vagina has never had an outbreak. As far as she knows.. she hasn't passed it on. RA; solid post man.. ballsy!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Great to see you back Random....Not great to know why you have been off planet. I do applaud you for being so honest and wish that many others would be as well.Christmas is a minefield for the cold sore on the lips ....I cringe at parties where everyone expects to kiss you on the lipscause its Christmas!I try to take the European way out, air kiss on each cheek thanks ( thats on their faces you dirty buggers)
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RHP User
13 years ago
IF you can prove the person KNEW they had the virus... and DID NOT disclose, you can charge them for wilful harm... but.. you would have to know who you got it from.. Maybe some budding Lawyer is on here, and can reply to this eh?
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RHP User
13 years ago
I have always been to the belief, that it's most commonly passed through actual contact....how wrong have I been???
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RHP User
13 years ago
Sorry to hear about your predicament but Hardtruckin makes a good point - why did you play without protection? Many people have a sexually transmissible infection including some common problems like candida (thrush) and they don't realise they have it. Or worse still, they pass it on before the symptoms appear. Condoms don't stop all diseases but they do help.
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RHP User
13 years ago
it is good to "learn thine enemy..." Google it mate... and watch this space... I am not shy about asking anything of anyone generally... so, I get to learn shit I HOPE I NEVER need to use. Whilst it is obviously most commonly passed on whilst the Infected has an outbreak, it is not the ONLY way.. Unfortunately..
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RHP User
13 years ago
Very true indeed...
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RHP User
13 years ago
That is shithouse mate. Sorry it had to happen. I have also played with people who have then told me afterwards they had herpes. The sexual one. Herpes II is it? Anyway I don't have it so yay! PS: I still remember Chin chong potato. Lol ;-)
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RHP User
13 years ago
My doctor also told me about catching STD's from seats. Not sure if its true!?! Also when you think about group sex and swingers clubs. All those mouths and fingers going from one person to the other. Not everyone is so considerate to go have a shower after each play.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I didn't use protection?Its all about fluid transfer. Virus rich pussy juice into the pores on yer knutsaq is a great way to start the day. Someone really needs to invent condomised shorts.If foreplay includes fingers DO NOT TOUCH YA WILLY Before washing your hands in a bucket of dettol next to the bed.Melbourne uni's Dr Roger Short has done a vast amount of research into viral transmission, and through studying the low number of HIV infected hookers in Nigeria compared to its neighbours, found out that lemon and lime juice completely disables sperm tails and kills all viruses, including AIDS. I shoulda fucked a lemon.RA
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'hardtruckin2011' I have always been to the belief, that it's most commonly passed through actual contact....how wrong have I been??? There is now very little if anything at all from separating .. Type 1 and Type 2 .. so a common cold sore on the face .. or fingers .. can be transferred to the private area very easily .. and condoms don't usually get worn with oral sex .. Very brave Random .. and very proud that you had the guts to bring this up ... so many try and hid it .. full points to you ..
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RHP User
13 years ago
What causes cold sores? Cold sores are usually caused by the herpes simplex virus (HSV) type 1. Exposure to this virus is most common in childhood. The HSV-1 virus enters through small cracks in the skin and travels along the nerves where it can remain quietly inactive for many months or years until, in some people, it is reactivated or “woken up”. The virus then travels down the sensory nerves to the skin, where it multiplies, causing blisters. Once you have been infected with HSV-1, the virus stays in your body for life, and can reactivate at any time. It is for this reason that cold sores tend to recur. Over 70% of Australian adults carry the HSV-1 virus. However, only approximately 30% of adults in Australia and New Zealand report experiencing cold sores. Are cold sores contagious? Cold sores are contagious. The virus can be passed on from person to person through close physical (skin-to-skin) contact or saliva even when blisters are not present. The infection is most commonly acquired as a baby or child from contact with parents or relatives, often from kissing. It can also be acquired in later life from activities such as oral sex. Although it is possible to transfer the virus even when there is no apparent cold sore, the risk is much higher when the cold sore is visible, as the virus can be shed making it easy to infect other people.
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RHP User
13 years ago
This is something that MUST be disclosed in my opinion!!! Very brave and honest post Random and I thank you for sharing. It's such a shame that we can trust people so easily and not think about the consequences of others selfishness and non disclosure. I'm so sorry this happened to you Random, however, it's a lesson for all to make sure they protect their health/ sexual health. Bareback is for those that have been tested and you have seen the results with your own eyes. People must also be realistic and acknowledge that foreplay is also a significant contributor to sexually transmitted diseases... Be careful and do not let a moment of passion haunt you for the rest of your life!!!
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RHP User
13 years ago
and I always thought it was to wipe the self satisfied smirk off your face.pss..Meeka, so do I. lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
...but herpes is the most common. It was also my understanding that there is a tingling before the coldsore starts to appear and that this is when the danger of contagion begins but this seems to be contrary to the information I googtled for my previous post. Do we have any experts here???
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RHP User
13 years ago
While I am sorry for your experiences - why isnt it on your profile now? One of the questions you ask you dont do yourself. I know some women who are (or have been) on this site who have put it up there for everyone to see...not everyone is as aware of the health risks as others, have fragile egos and dont want to be trashed for it from the get go, or plain simply dont know they have it. This particular STD is not something that is in the normal barrage of tests undertaken you more often than not, depending on how, where and who does your tests, have to ask for it to be done. Kisses Focus
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RHP User
13 years ago
So hardtruckin you be careful... I mean you never know who may have touched your gear stick! :O
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Lost_Focus' While I am sorry for your experiences - why isnt it on your profile now? One of the questions you ask you dont do yourself. i have only just got back on here today and will update my profile soon
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'So hardtruckin you be careful... I mean you never know who may have touched your gear stick! :O
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RHP User
13 years ago
I don't think people should have to put it on their profile. But telling someone before you get naked is a good idea! I will have my root with a twist of lemon. Thank you waiter.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I agree with you however the OP did ask: "and why why why the heck isn't this shit in your GODDAMNED PROFILE." Just pointing out that if he expects people to put it on their profiles maybe he should do the same.... Kisses Focus
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RHP User
13 years ago
People can have Herpes and never know they have it . A friend of mine that was accused of passing it on to someone and she never knew she had it . When she went to a women's clinic they told her they wouldn't test for it ... Assume you have it assume they do and take the necessary precautions. She insisted and was tested. It gets passed on sometimes merely by skin shedding - no lesion to be seen (or felt)! Salute to you Random Sassy
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RHP User
13 years ago
It is not necessarily transferred via sex. Aunty or Uncle, grandma or grandpa can easily transfer it inadvertently, there is a real stigma about it but as more medical knowledge comes to hand we find it is more common than we think and possibly less of a stigma. If we use the name Herpes 1 everyone reels in horror, yet using the name Cold Sore seems to be a more acceptable name. Just touching someone skin on skin can do it so kissing on the lips is not necessarily the problem. It is advisable not to touch or kiss new born babies.
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RHP User
13 years ago
This comes down to one thing..Condoms!! There are 2 types of herpes and the type two is the main one passed on from sex. The type one is usually the cold sore stuff. Some health professionals would argue that type one can be passed on sexually but that is tantamount to catching HIV from the toilet seat in my experience. I've been in Pathology for 20 years and never seen any type ones responsible for sexual transmission but apparently they do exist in the real world somewhere. For you dude, so long as you abstain from sex when you have even the slightest incling of a herpes blister and always use condoms in between times then you and your partner or partners should be fine. You should still disclose your history to anyone you intend to have sex with so they understand the risk. Do your research, take precautions and life goes on the same as every other STI recipient. Good call.. letting everyone know your situation dude.. you can only be respected for it.. we all love sex but often neglect to consider the risks. There is good medical advice out there you just need to look for it.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Merry frickin Christmas! Very brave post, and yes, I do think about this a lot as me and condoms don't get along, which is why I am very selective about who I am with Hopefully when you pee it doesn't look lke a garden sprinkler. Yet.... I don't think people should have to put it on thier proille. But they shoul tell the person they r will
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RHP User
13 years ago
HPV1 - 80% of the sexually active population have this. Leading cause of Cervical Cancer in women. Vaccination now in place - Gardisal. HPV2 - Genital Herpes. No Vaccination. No testing (usually) unless requested. These are not the same virus but are related (think chicken pox and Mouth coldsores) Kisses Focus
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RHP User
13 years ago
is the other related virus..
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RHP User
13 years ago
Is human papillomavirus. Causes cervical cancer. Has vaccinations.HSV is herpes simplex virus. HSV1 doesn't cause cervical cancer, mostly just cold sores, but can also affect the eyes, nostrils among other places. Any one get scabby eyes?HSV2 is for down there (indicates beautifully shaped, above average sized and currently unaffected penis between legs).RA
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RHP User
13 years ago
But herpes is the MOST TESTED STD in Australia, because it is the most common!Things like this are said by people who want to use the excuse "Oh they never tested for that" when they bug someone.RA
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RHP User
13 years ago
so is chicken pox (well with mouth cold sores anyway lol) Kisses Focus
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RHP User
13 years ago
Thank you sweetie... here we are talkiing about nasty fluid transfered yukkies..and you still send me kisses :)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'cavey50' IF you can prove the person KNEW they had the virus... and DID NOT disclose, you can charge them for wilful harm... but.. you would have to know who you got it from.. Maybe some budding Lawyer is on here, and can reply to this eh? Its not a think you have to notify the health deparment about You can never tell where you got in in the first place as unless you have an outbreak or specifically ask for that test, and in wa it has to be sent to sydney to confirm it as the tests here can give a false positive. as far as I know you cant sue anyone besides this is the first person ever to be honest about this on rhp if you say you have it is the kiss of death for your sex life. so one in three have it and never even know it
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'MistressT'Sorry to hear about your predicament but Hardtruckin makes a good point - why did you play without protection? Many people have a sexually transmissible infection including some common problems like candida (thrush) and they don't realise they have it. Or worse still, they pass it on before the symptoms appear. Condoms don't stop all diseases but they do help. You can get it just from skin to skin if you spoon you can get it anywhere under your undies line and we are talking bridget jones zone , you can also get it by not washing your hands after contact and then touching another part of your body, condoms do not protect you from herpies in all cases. when your in the dark room at swingers, how the hell can you ever know who has herpies? you dont you cant even tell if they have put a condom on unless you keep checking its still on there are cocks and cunts all over you, and how the hell do y ou know who has what? reality check, you may not say you have a comment cause you dont know, but its just a question of time. Unless you specifically ask for a herpies std check, they dont do it and over here in wa unless you have a sample sent to Sydney then you have no idea at all if you have it or not. so like aids a lot of people never went to get tested as they wanted to keep going , doing what they wanted. And aids is now again on the rise, usually in women over 35 as they are just not using condoms as the hotties dont want to use condoms so they just take a chance. though its good to have safe sex for other things ,and I can tell you now that most the men i know turn up without a condom and even one married couple and were quiet happy to go there with me bare back. I use condoms but yes I have slipped up a few times myself, no saint here at all. if you want to get rid of a pesky person, just tell somone you have herpies works a treat. good for you hon for being so brave to post this and now I bet you will get more sex than hot meals from people that have it and are to afraid to tell anyone.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Well I am looking at my test screening request right now and the doctor has asked for the following things to be tested: gonorrhoea, chlamdyia, HIV, HBVs-Ag, anti-HBVs-Ab, Hep C, Syphilis. There is no HSV!! Just read on google ( I know not always the best) that so many people, as in most people, have some form of Herpes so they don't bother to test for it. :O
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'Well I am looking at my test screening request right now and the doctor has asked for the following things to be tested: gonorrhoea, chlamdyia, HIV, HBVs-Ag, anti-HBVs-Ab, Hep C, Syphilis. There is no HSV!! Just read on google ( I know not always the best) that so many people, as in most people, have some form of Herpes so they don't bother to test for it. :O Yep, you got it right
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RHP User
13 years ago
So why the hysteria when someone mentions herpes? Only because for SOME people they get cold sores and they don't look very nice. But apart from that it ain't going to kill you. Apart from HIV everything else is just a matter of taking some antibiotics. I have never had a cold sore... I do hear that they hurt?
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RHP User
13 years ago
The legal ramifications are just not there as far as HSV goes because it doesn't kill or disable. If it had been AIDS and the other person was aware and didn't inform, you could claim attempted murder and be quite within your rights to do so. Another thing is that nowadays due to the efficacy of anti-retrovirals in managing AIDS and the fact that many people with HIV now live quite a long time its becoming less of an issue concerning legal people. The BIG problem is that now less people are using protection during sex and this applies mostly to more mature people and rates of infections are rising in this demographic. Not just for HIV but Gonorhhea and HSV and all the major STD's. Have safe fun kiddies Mike
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RHP User
13 years ago
a note on reportable STD's HIV, Syphillis, Gonorhhea,are all reportable and you should disclose who, when and where. Cadidia or thrush is a fungal infection and is usually easily treatable, but not reportable. Anal, vaginal warts is a lifelong thing and with the introduction of Guardasil will become less of a problem as herd immunity increases. Thank you Jonas Salk, Louis Pasteur and the guy who invnted microscopes.. I forget who? Mike
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RHP User
13 years ago
And your honest and brave post is commendable but I do have a concern on what you wrote You said I've contracted herpes, most likely from a pie ? My question is have you discussed this issue with this person ? Are you able to narrow it down to who it may be but more importantly was the fact that you may have contracted from a fellow pie member the real motivation for your post ? Are you outing this person without outing them ? Is your fellow pie member cringing and absolutely mortified rite now ?? Was that point of your post ? Not having a shot at you, just wondering with the comment you made, where is the other person or persons in this ? Have you shown a duty of care ?? Meeks antibiotics won't cure Hep b c or d or all the other strains after d. This disease causes complications which in time and due to other factors will eventually lead to liver failure
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RHP User
13 years ago
that there is no such thing as safe sex,if we choose to be sexually active we are going to be at risk of contracting something.All we can do is be aware of the risks and be as responsible as we can be. Brave post Random,
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RHP User
13 years ago
Google "Australian Bureau of Statistics Sexually transmissible infections".Prevalence in 40+ age group (if you share the female risk... ie. you have a long term female partner) is around 100 per 100,000 per annum for Chlamydia. That is 1 in a 1000. All other notifiable infections are at about 1/6th or less of that rate.Prevalence of the non-notifiable HSV2 (genital herpes) is 1 in 6 women and 1 in 12 men. If you are active in this scene, that means you're going to play with someone with HSV2 sooner or later.Disclosure is honourable. But at what level does it become absurd ? How about in a vanilla party situation, when someone wants to pash you... and if you sometimes get cold sores but don't have any at the time, nor have had any for a while, nor feel any coming on ? Yet it would be dishonourable to pass on cold sores. How about at a swing party ? A pash one minute... going down the next. In this scene, have you ever seen the use of condoms for oral sex on guys... let alone dental dams for girls ? At what level of precaution and disclosure will one never get laid again ?Don't play if you have symptoms of ANYTHING... even if it's cold sores, thrush or vaginitis. If a girl has vaginitis but doesn't realise, please do her the courtesy of telling her (she smells bad) despite the embarrassment! Better that the evening bombs out, she gets all embarrassed, but goes and gets some antibiotics rather than passing it on to other girls. If someone plays when they have HSV2 symptoms, and recon that a condom will make it OK, they deserve to gain the sort of reputation that will turn them into a pariah. I recon that news travels fast in this scene.Twice yearly get the full range of standard STI checks, and double that rate for the simple urine test for Chlamydia.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I went through this with my very close friend, a girl, and she was distraught! She got it from a guy who had a coldsore on his lip ad went down on her.The doctor always assured her that it couldn't be passed on if there wasn't an outbreak as the virus was not active as it technically goes dormant!
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RHP User
13 years ago
I am sorry to hear that you have had a bad stroke of luck, it's unfortunate but you're now in a large and rather quiet boat by the sounds of things, there's a lot of people with long term STD's who seem a little reluctant in passing on information which could alter someones whole outlook on life.I had a mate who entered into a relationship with a woman who had herpes and miraculously he didn't catch it, he was aware from the start and they were both careful, I felt sorry for her as she'd not been informed by her former lover even though he was well aware he had the virus. It must be a tough move to fall for someone , have everything moving along naturally and then decide you have to stop things in their tracks and give out a health and safety speech.Kudos for your bravery in being open, sometimes it's best to lay your cards on the table and play your hand as it is I expect. I hope modern medicine can find a cure in the near future.
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RHP User
13 years ago
GEEZZZ Random you always did attract attention when you made an entrance !.....herpes my boy ! nasty painful things so im told. You can get em without even having sex...how unfair is that...at least you got to enjoy getting them...or did you mean was she a lemon ??(as for lemons I think stalky said mango skins were the fruit of choice......a more realistic experience or something0.i have heard and did just google for you ...a dating site just for peeps with herpes........see there is somethong for everyonewww.hsvsingles.comBrave post.....welcome back...take care just popped in myself when i saw you up against the wall.....should do drinks for the new year.......peek
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RHP User
13 years ago
Oh yeah you are right. But I have had all my hep shots due the amount of travelling I do. You xan get vaccinated against all the Hep A,B & C right? And I have also had that the vaccine for the one that causes cervical cancer. God my knowledge is shocking.. That's for genital warts right?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Good girl ....your rite and very health aware ... Big mwah to you xx :)
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RHP User
13 years ago
So if woman over 35 are the fastest growing demographic of increased STIs and it's the younger generation who are forgoing the condoms. Mmm is it fair to come to the conclusion that cougars are at risk!! Lol
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RHP User
13 years ago
And I have had my tetanus shot, you never what rusty nails you might cut yourself on in those dungeons. Lol. Can I say those shots hurt like a bastard!!
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RHP User
13 years ago
Quoting 'Shinasbabe27'And your honest and brave post is commendable but I do have a concern on what you wrote You said I've contracted herpes, most likely from a pie ? My question is have you discussed this issue with this person ? Are you able to narrow it down to who it may be but more importantly was the fact that you may have contracted from a fellow pie member the real motivation for your post ? I had a lot of tracing back to do, which was a little humiliating and shameful, but necessary. Requested checks after the first outbreak, with partners, one of which came back positive, and the previous people didn't. Of course, the one nighters were uncontactable. This post was not to humiliate or out anyone. The person in question is no longer here. I posted this because I felt the need to impress upon you all the necessity for regular checks and the safest sex possible. Not trying to scare, but to share (not the bug, though. yetch). Its okay, it doesn't kill, the meds smash it. But it could easily have been something worse. Just get regular checks, peoples, that you can show to your noobs. They're free. Get one this week! Quoting 'MistressT' good for you hon for being so brave to post this and now I bet you will get more sex than hot meals from people that have it and are to afraid to tell anyone. That is also a distinct possibility Spank my monkey!RA
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RHP User
13 years ago
Hi!Random:) I'm sincerely sorry that you and those in your position have experienced this condition and will continue to do so permanently . It's certainly a place I wouldn't want to go, nor would anyone given the choice.. Thankyou for being so courageous and share this Topic.I'm pretty aware on STDs and tend to take as many Precautions as Possible, but thanks to you I've learned things I wasn't aware of. I may have to greet others with air kisses or none in the future.. I hope for your Bravery and being open about your Issue that you do get Interest by Playmates who are suffering with this Condition too. .Maybe Someone ie RHP could start up a Sex, Dating, Web Site where everyone who joins has this and similar ongoing conditions if it's so common....Lu :)
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RHP User
13 years ago
It's okay MadamDragonfly, RA isn't going to die you know and I am not sure who would join up a RHP herpes site. PMSL!! Bit like a leprosy colony huh?
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RHP User
13 years ago
Some years ago, there was a female advertising in the west australian newspaper personals (looking for a long term relationship) for another person who had herpes.. or someone who understood it, and was still happy to build a future with her.
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RHP User
13 years ago
You sound like you have had ALL your shots eh... NOW.. go to the vet and get shot up for RABIES... then come to Orange and visit eh :) you may leave there with Fleas, Ticks, Rabies..... and God knows what else.. Reminds me of a damned Funny joke about a couple getting married, and the groom going down the river fishing... but.. that joke will wait :)
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RHP User
13 years ago
Came up with over 900,000 results.Go for it Random
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13 years ago
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13 years ago
Good luck with it all ...:)
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13 years ago
What an honest and decent guy your are.... I have always thought that skin on skin is so sexy.... but now re-thinking my thoughts on that best of luck to you
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13 years ago
Quoting 'RandomAgent' Quoting 'Shinasbabe27'And your honest and brave post is commendable but I do have a concern on what you wrote You said I've contracted herpes, most likely from a pie ? My question is have you discussed this issue with this person ? Are you able to narrow it down to who it may be but more importantly was the fact that you may have contracted from a fellow pie member the real motivation for your post ? I had a lot of tracing back to do, which was a little humiliating and shameful, but necessary. Requested checks after the first outbreak, with partners, one of which came back positive, and the previous people didn't. Of course, the one nighters were uncontactable. This post was not to humiliate or out anyone. The person in question is no longer here. I posted this because I felt the need to impress upon you all the necessity for regular checks and the safest sex possible. Not trying to scare, but to share (not the bug, though. yetch). Its okay, it doesn't kill, the meds smash it. But it could easily have been something worse. Just get regular checks, peoples, that you can show to your noobs. They're free. Get one this week! Quoting 'MistressT' good for you hon for being so brave to post this and now I bet you will get more sex than hot meals from people that have it and are to afraid to tell anyone. That is also a distinct possibility Spank my monkey!RA Random, Brave post indeed considering the stigma that if often attached usually by the uninformed.Everyone who is sexually active is at risk of getting a sexually transmitted disease.I highlighted the above to impress on you and everyone else that may not know this little Tit-bit Regular checks will not pick up Herpes unless you are actually having an outbreak...and Yes You can even pass Herpes on without ever having any symptoms ever.Ever heard the phrase "I've Been Tested For Everything, and I'm Completely Clean."Well... It's impossible to be tested for everything. There are several common STDs for which there are either No Commercial tests, or for which the tests are Only Accurate During an outbreak.There are also STDs, such as syphilis, which a physician may be reluctant to screen you for unless you are likely to have been exposed.Therefore, a person who tells you they have been tested for "everything" is either lying to you or has no idea what they're talking about. Ask them what specific diseases they have been tested for, and you'll get a better idea of the true picture of things.Some people have far too much faith in their doctors. I mean you would not leave something as important as your sexual health in the hands of the young bloke that works behind the counter at McDonald's now would you...?I have never been asked at the Sexual Heath clinic if i want fries with thatI am just thankful i was not born in america where close to 50% of the population has the Herpes Virus 1 in 4 women and 1 in 5 menGod needs to do more than bless them i think.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Of the almost 70 million people in America with genital herpes, 80 percent have no signs or can't recognize them.
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RHP User
13 years ago
The only STI I've ever passed on was a sexually transmitted infant . But seriously, has noone ever heard of the sexual health department located in clinics and hospitals? If you practice unsafe sex, which most people have at least done once in their lives, then get the simple tests done! As for posting up on this site whether you have one well, I wouldn't know how I'd feel about doing that until I was in that position. But with everyone here saying how ballsy Random is for sharing his information I can imagine that most of the creeps lurking on this site wouldn't. And it seems everyone is always high and mighty about safe sex? I don't know if it is just a front that everybody puts on to make themselves more popular or if it's the era that I grew up in.. but I know that the majority of the time safe sex is thrown out the window (along with the condom) once two parties are razzed up and in the heat of the moment.
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RHP User
13 years ago
GL,i know you are generalising about the generation but it seems bizarre that you say its simple to get tests done. Well isn't more simple just to wear a condom in the first place than the difficulty of knowing what to say to someone upfront about the myriad of hep A, B, C etc that you would be exposing oneself to ?Cheers,W.
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RHP User
13 years ago
Aarps... go get your vaccinations. No reason to get hep A, B or C these days.
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RHP User
13 years ago
I read recently that there is an estimated 4000 people in NSW who are HIV positive and don't know it. Does anyone watch that show Embarrassing Bodies? They often talk about this and they provided some stats recently, from memory they say that 44% of people under 25 in the UK will have had unprotected sex often, for example if they are drunk or didn't plan to have sex, and it's estimated that 1 in 3 have chlamydia without knowing it. I know I have been very blasé about how some STD's are so easily treated however I do not go without a condom. I do not want to run the risk of HIV. But I am not perfect and I know that group sex or having a few regular partners that also have a few regular partners, etc, etc is increasing my risk of the more common STDs. I would say a large proportion of people are in the same position as me. I get tested regularly. I also read a comment made by another 20 something year old guy on this forum who said that "condoms are going out of style" So there you have it. Mind you he also believed, along with a few other people, that AIDS is not real that it is a hoax. Scary scary stuff. But it's okay he was very carefully about who he slept with without a condom. He would exchange a number emails with his prospective partners first to assess if they were trustworthy. FFS! Time for the government to re-educate about STDs or put the fear of god back into us. Or fear of bowling.
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13 years ago
Quoting 'Nudierudie2'Random, Brave post indeed considering the stigma that if often attached usually by the uninformed.Everyone who is sexually active is at risk of getting a sexually transmitted disease.I highlighted the above to impress on you and everyone else that may not know this little Tit-bit Regular checks will not pick up Herpes unless you are actually having an outbreak...and Yes You can even pass Herpes on without ever having any symptoms ever.Ever heard the phrase "I've Been Tested For Everything, and I'm Completely Clean."Well... It's impossible to be tested for everything. There are several common STDs for which there are either No Commercial tests, or for which the tests are Only Accurate During an outbreak.There are also STDs, such as syphilis, which a physician may be reluctant to screen you for unless you are likely to have been exposed.Therefore, a person who tells you they have been tested for "everything" is either lying to you or has no idea what they're talking about. Ask them what specific diseases they have been tested for, and you'll get a better idea of the true picture of things.Some people have far too much faith in their doctors. I mean you would not leave something as important as your sexual health in the hands of the young bloke that works behind the counter at McDonald's now would you...?I have never been asked at the Sexual Heath clinic if i want fries with thatI am just thankful i was not born in america where close to 50% of the population has the Herpes Virus 1 in 4 women and 1 in 5 menGod needs to do more than bless them i think. Someone who knows what they are talking about.Without an outbreak the test for herpes is meaningless, because of the other strains the false positives are so high as to be useless, my GP refused as a waste of time and money.However if you have an outbreak and the sores are sampled the test is reliable.It is a very confusing issue with the various degrees of risk and transmission and I would strongly recommend you talk to sexual health professionals like in the family planning clinics and not rely totally on your GPs advice as from personal experience not even they have a complete understanding and indeed there are some who have a personal or religious agenda to push.
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13 years ago
Yeah I was a bit quick to assert that going to get tests done would solve the problem. As you're right that getting an accurate test for the HSV virus is unlikely if the person is asymptomatic. You can normally ask for the tests that you want done at these clinics so if the majority of the sexually active population got blood tests/chlamydia tests done then it would help solve a lot of problems. But, I think because of the horror stories surrounding getting these tests done, a lot of people are too afraid of going near a sexual health clinic. I've always had the idea that if they gave out the chlamydia treatment to all sexually active people and everyone SOMEHOW refrained from having sex for a week after taking them, then it would pretty much wipe the infection out (don't know if there are other variables that would stand in the way). But sounds like a plan eh? lol. And no I barely trust any doctors. They are predominantly taught the same false information from corrupt medical schools so they push foward more and more medication and prescription drugs onto unknowing and misinformed people for profit. The HSV virus is more psychologically harmful then it is physically harmful so don't let it get you down too much Random!
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13 years ago
I know that the cold sores are really not much more than an inconvenience but it used to be said that a genital herpes occurence in a pregnant woman can result in blindness for the child. Is this true or an old wives' tale?
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13 years ago
Herpes infection can be deadly in infants.Neonatal herpes has a 60% fatality rate. It can also cause long term neurological damage.Fortunately, infection transmission from a mother to a child during pregnancy is relatively rare most cases of neonatal herpes are transmitted during birth, women with Herpes are advised to have a cesarean section rather than a natural birth.Cold Sores ( HSV1) Genital Herpes( HSV2) it is possible to transmit the two herpes viruses to their less preferred sites during oral sex. In fact, HSV-1 accounts for approximately one half of all cases of genital herpes in developed countries... so much for it "just" causing cold sores....its also possible to have Both HSV1 and HSV2 at the same time.
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13 years ago
I feel for ya RA. I caught Herpes ( HSV2 virus) off my partner of the time 6 years ago. She finally told me after we had been together for 6 months that she had it (the irony... she had just finished her masters in Public Health). A year later I caught it even though we had always used condoms. The outbreak is not on my penis but in my pubic region a cm away. I did feel pretty angry at the time. About once every 6 months I get a couple of small blisters that last a few days. You are contagious when you are having an outbreak but are potentially contagious at anytime through a process called "viral shedding". You can take anti-virals but that only reduces the risk. But, the important thing is cleanliness and complete protection, and it's pretty easy.First thing, always shower/wash immediately before sex, the virus is pretty fragile and soapy water will probably kill any that is "shedding". Next, I wear boxer shorts or those bonds briefs with the hole in the front and a condom, this way there is no skin to skin contact. I have several playmates who are quite accepting of this procedure. Depending where the stats come from variously 1 in 4 in New York to 1 in 8 in Australia have the virus and 80% don't know it. Given how sexually active people on this website are I wouldn't be surprised if the stats were down to that 1 in 4 number. For more info go to herpes dot com dot au Genital warts (caused by the HPV virus) is similar in that condoms only reduce the risk, most people don't realise they are carriers and there is no cure. Paul.
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13 years ago
Hi RA,Well, I see you've been exposed to just how ignorant most people are about herpes. Dr's also aren't the best, a lot still of the age before DNA testing revealed that the virus can be shed even when no prodome or symptoms. A lot of Dr's will stil just tell you to not shag when you've got an outbreak, and you'll be fine.Ahhh.OK. So, I've had it since 2003. Caught it from AMM, it's why I hang out here when I look for shagging. First run out after a LTR breakup. Doh. I used to have it on my profile when it was active, then just decided to tone profile completely down in my last incarnation here but mention it before meeting. Ahh internet, you make things so easy. I still find it hard to have the "I have herpes" conversation in person, god there is such a stigma attached to it. For example, how many dickheads here have had a go at you for not wearing condoms just in this thread, and these are people on a sex site who should be educated. Both HSVI and HSVII can be either oral or genital, just HSVI prefers to live in nerve ganglion at top of spine and HSVII prefers to live at base of spine. When the virus is active it can present as sores not just on genitals but anywhere below the waist. A friend of mine gets sores on her thighs and buttocks.One little virus in one little bit of wet, going in one little tiny cut (probably from where you've shaved your balls and end of shaft, condoms don't even cover that bit!).Ummm, I started out on Valtrex. Oh gods, initial outbreak was all kinds of hell. Glands swollen to the size of mandarins. Dr initially thought I had glandular fever til blood work showed I'd already had that (and never knew). It was another couple of days before blisters appeared. It went for two weeks, so much agony. Topped off by me being stupidly and unreasonably horny (I'm sure that the virus affects hormone production!).So yeah, on Vlatrex, stayed on it for a year, but whenever I forgot to take it for one day, I'd get an outbreak immediately. I went off Valtrex, wasn't shagging, and let my body do the hard work of keeping it in check. Second year was down to an outbreak maybe every two months. I started back on the shagging wagon then, didn't have it on profile but would bring it up on initial meet. Very hard to do, a lot of rejection. So, to save time, shoved it on profile. Lots of positive comments from people saying I was brave to do so (nah, just lazy). Umm, except for one guy who finally admitted he had it too after we'd already shagged, I don't think I've shagged anyone else with it (that has told me anyway).Um, yeah, I always use condoms for casual sex. I was in a long term relationship after getting it, we didn't use condoms, he never got it. I have a long term lover who has also never caught it. Although they say the longer someone without it fucks someone who has it, it's like they build up an immunity to it (anecdotal evidence).Oh, btw MDMA will trigger an outbreak! It lowers the immune response to all viruses. Not saying you're into such things but if you are, dose up on Valtrex and L-Lysine. L-Lysine is an amino acid, and there's anecdotal evidence (and I'll chip in with my own here) that it helps control outbreaks (and without the side-effects long term valtrex use). I'm down to one outbreak a year. I know when it's coming, can feel the tingle, and if I was good and took lysine all the time I reckon I'd have less than that.HSV generally isn't included in your general STI screen because they can't tell from a blood test if it's genital or oral, just the strain you have. You need a swab of a sore to be certain. Some Dr's won't even test, a mate of mine who engages in "high risk" activities, read sucks a lot of cock, had his Dr tell him not o bother testing for it. He probably has it but it's beter for him to not know. (I know, fucking weird eh?)I'm sorry you've got it, there's such a stigma attached to it - I can't believe people would rather get things like chlamydia and syphilis which can cause major damage if not picked up straight away just because they can be treated with drugs. It will put a dampener on your sex life for awhile.What else, there are a couple of websites for STI dating, PositiveSingles is the most well-known one. I don't use it, they want money. TheLivingSphere website it pretty good too.Cheers,JulesPS. Your new profile pic, smokin' HOT!
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